BOSS AUDIO’S BIGGEST SUBWOOFERS | Trash or Pass?
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They did surprisingly better than I thought they would. Thanks for the video
More efficient, less power required for same avg db... no need to upgrade electrical ect. So there is always a use for lower build subs.
True. One of the reasons the JL W0-4was so popular for a while. Though was kinda underrated power wise at 125rms, still did good numbers in a lot of old school SPL comps. I would rather go with a better brand then Boss though if you want low power subs.
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probably because the people installing a 1000 watt amp and sub are really getting under 500 watts due to box rise.
@@mikehonda7934 I got 5 10wo that was stored for ten years, 1 is a triple stack with the JL grills and the other is a JL box with two, and the JL grills. What happened is that moisture builds up around that metal grill with the rubber around it, and about 6 month's ago I decided to hook them up and all the surrounds blew off
@@thomasbradian6367you can replace the surround
Back in 1994 that would have been the envy of the school yard.
I don't know about that I'm that age and we never ran boss maybe if it was like a soundstream SPL subwoofer or a Phoenix Gold subwoofer that would have been the envy of the schoolyard definitely not Boss Audio unless you lived in the ghetto then you might have been the envy
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 during that Era, Boss was made in the U.S.A and many of their amplifiers were designed and built by Steve Mantz. Like many big names from the time period, all have been outsourced to China.
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 I went to school in the 90’s. Tons of kids had wicked stereos, Orion, Rockford, Kicker, MTX, etc. Not one hit as hard as this.
Sure there were the Jay Lovelace’s around but they were few and far between
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 people in the ghetto, don't go cheep
Back in 94 I had 2 kicker c15a and I would agree with this comment 👍 I did hit 139 on some test tones
I absolutely love your videos You're the only guy that test out stuff that people can afford
Thanks man!! I’ll keep doing it
Better doesn't really cost more. A pair of these is comparable in cost to a single Sundown SA 12 V2 and if you didn't do mid 140s in a open cabin with the SA you are doing something really wrong.
@@srp365 Those Sundown subs are pure beasts, even the cheaper entry level ones seem to be on another level.
@@ParkerTheBasshead as always parker?? great video!!! no smoking mirrors, it better bump man!! lmfao!!!
@@srp365 ct sounds has got some really good budget stuff. Like the tropoXL 12.
we all know boss is a cheap brand but overall they handled way more then i ever thought they could. Decent starter subs for a cheap price
I had a BOSS amp from 94 to 97. Had it for years. Good value amp. No complaints.
@@citycowboy702 there amps now suck and they label the rms too high
I really enjoy the energy and attitude you bring. You're entertainment value in your videos are superb!
All about the box. Used to build boxes for friends and stuff and worked with loads of cheap gear. And in my experience if you build a good box cheap woofers hold up really well and can take good power, can easilly push double the wattage trough them if you avoid extended tones around tuning frequencies.
I mean, Who listnens to music at 140db? If you do you won't for long anyway.
You really don't have to spend thousands if you're not competing. Just invest in a good set of front speakers and a quality amp to push those and you can do crazy stuff for not much money.
They are decent starter equipment. Just remember to take a 0 off the end of their pwr ratings (to get closer to the truth) and they will last ya long enough to save for something better.
Cudnt had sed it better myself
Waiting on a refund now lasted 2days… Very disappointed
A lot of people dont understand that not everyone wants to shatter windows.. a little bump is enough. Boss is a decent starter.
Trash or pass mean the same thing
@@troubleship6064 maybe he meant like "pass the test"
You should've unscrewed covers for magnets. I wanted to see how big the magnet was. I think Parker didn't want to embarrass the company to badly lol. I agree maybe good for home theater or garage. Would be nice to have some honesty in wattage ratings though. Good video! Like to see these budget brands in action!
He wouldn't embarrass Boss. They have been around longer than this clown has been alive. They have outlived many audio companies.
@@speedwayaudio3 Does Boss have some good products? Amps or other gear worth checking out?
@@mattsnider5904 no. Lol.
I figured that ,but wanted to be fair if anybody has had a good experience using their products
@@speedwayaudio3 Just proves you can sell a garbage product and still stay in business as long as the prices are low enough.
WOW! BOSS took a good stand on these tests. Not bad. Another good video sir. Keep these coming.
It's all about your box honestly any subs can get loud and sound good
Here’s a challenge for you. Based on the $76 price of the boss audio 15’s at autozone, you can buy 11-12 of the boss 15’s for the price of your one sundown ZV6. You should build a giant boss box with all those 15’s and compare it to the one sundown for fun, just see how they compare.
You can buy car audio from AutoZone where you are? I'm on the northeast coast, I've never seen anything remotely close to Car Audio in any Auto Parts store. Although I did buy batteries and fuses from AutoZone. That could be considered car audio
@@nighttow8780 You have to search online but you can purchase in store, they just order it in. I bought this sub from Autozone in Celina Ohio last Friday just to mess around with it after watching Parker’s video, $82 after tax and they got it next day for me. He’s right, they’re shitty speakers but will fill an empty hole in a box for cheap.
@@reedstemen yeah I looked at their website, I saw the offer audio equipment. I don't really use their website because I go through a guy I know who works at the store to get secret discounts. Don't tell anybody. I asked him about it and he was like yeah come with me. Apparently they've had a stock in the back room for years and years and years and I never knew it. Display pieces and everything. They just don't put it out because folks walk in the door rip it off the shelf and run out the door.
@@nighttow8780 crazy! Fun find 😁. They don’t offer much audio but it’s there, I think they carry dual too, just cheap stuff 🤷🏻♂️
They only sell Dual brand audio out here in Southern Cali (that I've seen). Never seen BOSS though. 🤔
Hey they lasted longer than the Rockville destroyer subs lol
Hahahahahaha
Now thats what I call MAX WATTS. You can tell the Boss is a better built unit from that bulky grill blocking the pole vent. Sundown cheaped out and left the vent open allowing all of the max watts to leak out of the back.
PS: That intro killed me when you ran down the boxes in your ride.
Glad you did this!!! Honestly didn't expect them to do great, but the cost for 2 of these and a boss amp an cheap wiring kit is probably fairly cheap for a beginner basshead.
Yeah true, except most people dont have/want to make room for 2 15s in their vehicle, which is why its prefferable to buy something like an 8" or 10" thats better quality and higher power.
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@@Justthemow REAM,in the you know what!😳🙄🤔🤣😂🤫🤙🏾🤙🏻
@@daninuesca3801 what I’ve had soundstream for years sounds good cost ok last for years nothing wrong with soundstream gear
Not trying to be NEGATIVE brah..ALOHA!🤔🤙🏻🤙🏾
Please do more of these skits. It was the hardest I have laughed in a long time. Your rock Parker!
Good to hear man I definitely will!!
I've been using Boss audio subs for years now they have a really good quality for the $, I've had 3-15 inch subs in a 98 Civic and afterwards changed car for a Yaris iA with 3-12s and Boss Audio used a picture I took for 1 of their magazine's or cover. I was happy since people talk trash about the brand and 90% of the time it was their own mistake.
im a car stereo world champ many times, and i fully support as to good quality for the price and good SQL, and enough db...they overate power but so what...people got babies and daipers to pay for.....so boss get them stuff cheap....boss is da boss
Being that BOSS Audio is a cheaper brand, I'm surprised you liked these so much! Just ordered 10 of them
@@skippy710 I think he doesn't understand sarcasm.
Boss Audio was founded in 1987 and is still around, sundown audio was founded in 2006.LOL I'm sure parker was still in nuttsville or in diapers at that time. Hahaha! I remember when A guy named duey had 2 JL Audio w6's 12's in the 90's bumping them in a mustang 5.0 hatchback, and you could hear him a block away! It's funny what people today consider loud and what they consider the cool factor! LOL. I think that those boss speakers took some punishment compared to some of the junk we got and thought was cool back in the day! Bah aha! Being that said, boss has always been considered a cheap entry level brand and the company has made millions selling this stuff and been around a lot longer than Sundown Audio. Hahaha!
They call them Boss for a reason. That's the real deal right there. I personally filled my truck with them bad boys! Haters gonna hate but that's all good!
You were cracking me up with the subtitles at the beginning of the video. I'm kind of surprised they lasted as long as they did. Good video, parker. Keep em coming!
Cone area is king especially with lower power. I did a test with 2 audio legion gladiators 15s in a atrend sealed prefab. Did a 142.8 in my sedan and those subs were only $120 I think a piece. On around 1300 or so watts.
Never been a big fan of the subs but every once and a while they plop out some sleeper amps. You need to know exactly what to look for but the 5500 onyx ( I think it was overstock buy for boss cus they didn't build it ) . I ran dark audio 12's off it and yeah I had a 300 amp alt, a massive battery and I have a fair grasp on what I'm doing....but that amp powering those subs in a nice sealed enclosure was doing it's best to dismantle my crown Vic 😏. The subs are " meh " a select few amps are monsters in disguise.
Just remember not everyone is looking to jack hammer the block with some " I brought the waaaaaaalk " 😂🤣 and I bet these would do very well behind a 600 watt amp in a daily set up for decent output, remember parker your used to 10,000 watts and some higher level competition stuff......do not ever forget where you came from bruh, I was there when you started😏
I agree.
Back to the hotel never sounded so good 😂
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I bought two 12” phantoms. The 2300 watt and I didn’t expect much but they turned out to be some of the best I’ve ever had and I have won several comps in my time.
I'm surprised they lasted that long on 8k! Plus they really had your truck shakin' but TRASH!!!!! Very funny video bro!🤣💪🏾
I hope your neighbors didn't get mad with all that bass. 😂😂😂
This video got me cracking up the whole time 😂😂😂 you da man 🫵🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Thanks. A 1200 watt amp is a perfect match! Thanks for all your time with these videos bro you show some cool stuff
And I especially like cheap subs like these that sounds great at a lower volume. Peace
Thanks man! It was a fun video to make
No way those are more than 250rms a piece
Around 400
@@tycmusic7437 200rms a piece definitely sounds about right. I'd go with 150
@@Avaddon911 and 200watts set up properly can sound GREAT, unless you trying to be king of the parking lot!! lol
We need more Parker Sarcasm! LOVE IT!!
Thanks so much man!! This was a lot of fun to make 😂😂
Great video man. This one was funny AF 😂 keep up the good work.
Have you or anyone noticed that some boss subwoofers have different T/S parameters? It could be the same product, but the official website, official re-sellers sites and the user manual list completely different specs for tuning and enclosure size, among other discrepancies.
Sorry to complain, but that's my gripe with Boss. However, I still like my little be8d woofer and i even built a cute little ported enclosure for it and it does well.
Thank you for these videos, have a great new week!✌🏼💯🔊
You would be surprised, at just how many manufacturers tsp's are not accurate. And I don't mean just the budget branded subwoofers and drivers...It's also big names as well. Pick you up DATS from Parts Express...it's a great tried and true program, and very accurate. I have used it for many,many years...and used to use, the Woofer Tester program way before it, for older Windows. You'll be amazed, at how many speakers in general, have invalid TSP'S.
@@Chuck_Sanders I'll look into that, thanks! I used the loudspeaker database for the info for WinISD and it had a woofer profile for that one(but not a comp c one, go figure!), but I'm not sure how they came up with the results. I still managed to make a decent enclosure, but the manual was listing the same size enclosure for the 8, 10, and 12" models @1.5cu ft, the tunings were different though.
All in the course of doing what is basshead love doing. Take it easy!
@@homebody0089 you're very welcome my friend. ✌
Man you guys blow me away with all these videos,I gotta step it up🤣
Parker? Get your TIP or thx section working please. This video deserves one. Thanks dude! And the VIDEO had me laughing so hard I spilled my my drink. Bravo !
I just added it!! Thanks man!
Finally some decent and consistent content from a bass head you tuber. Love your stuff man. You have helped me make a lot of purchase decisions on setups
I had a boss 10 inch a while ago it was rated to take 600 rms and it always started smelling when I got close to the 400 rms range
Hey y'all make sure to comment multiple times. It will help his algorithm.
Yesssir it does!!!
The sarcasm is flowing 🤣🤣😂
The neighbors be like oh Parker got new toys he’s playing with them now lol
I absolutely love this sarcasm and I really appreciate your videos.
I'm curious to know what percentage of Boss subs are sold just to be destroyed 😆👍👍 Thank you for the videos!!
I'm also extremely surprised they didn't blow up way way earlier.
"Hey guys I'm a wannabee whistlin woopher and I blow a lot of woophers"
Definitely should try planet audio 3600 12s, I hear they're even better than boss lol
Boss is planet audio.
What if you changed the 8- 15” subs in the new set up to 8-Boss 15” and see what she will do 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔just a thought I think it would be very interesting
I've found boss to be a surprisingly solid "bang for watt" product. The key is, you have to IGNORE their ratings. So for instance, tell yourself that the RMS of these are say.. 500 watts. THEN, compare them to other similar sized speakers making that same true power. When looking through those lenses, and comparing them against those similar products, I've been surprised a few times from boss - particularly in their marine line. Boss also has one of the best warranties in the audio industry.
The same can be said about their amplifiers. Take their 4000 "armor" watt sub amp which sells for like $150 and really mentally think of it like as a.... 400-500 watt amp (it's laughable how off their ratings are). But as a $150, 400-500 watt true RMS @ 4ohm amp, it's pretty darn good!! (pulled those numbers from "BidDWiz")
Or to make it really easy, as Parker pointed out, keep it "in the family." So pair up their "4000" watt sub to their "4000 watt" amp and you'll be fine. Because both are overrated lol.
No real need to compare with other brands. Just hand them money and they'll do the best they can for the price (along with a bunch of laughable lies, but still). I had a BOSS amp back in the late 90s. Had it for years. I TORTURED that amp, and it never died on me. Now Kicker? Kicker amps will burn out, EASY. Never run Kicker amps at their lowest impedance rating. I burned out two Kicker amps in under a year by running them hot n heavy at 1 ohm.
Nowadays, I just buy Rockford Fosgate and JL Audio, but there was a time when my pocketbook was more than a little thin, and for the PRICE... Totally.
The amount of sarcasm 1 1/2 mins in is overwhelming
I had the same 15 as my first woofer on the boss 1200 watt amp and it flexed the trunk of my crown Vic and wasn't bad until I wanted to experience the more expensive stuff
I had the boss 2 12s on 2000 watt amp blow them, then got to the real stuff then fried them so bad.....
So an idea, should do a SPL build off with a chosen sub across the board (spin the wheel for a vote select list) and participants will have to build a box, amp choice is up to the builder, and do the dopest destruction of the subs to win. But it has to be done the Parker way. Same songs and all.
God dang bro. You gonna throw your back out picking up those Boss Audio 15's!
Try the lanzar max pro's next please
Good idea!!!
7:43 If I'm not wrong that is back to the hotel
Obviously there is a huge difference between a continuous power rating and a peak power rating, but I'm shocked they actually withstood their advertised peak. Thought for sure they'd bottom out with 500w, so I'm impressed they took over 3,000 watts each and didn't come apart.
I was like what’s the guy from Rockville doing in your video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 my bad 😁😁😁😂😂
boss audio : stamped basket forever!
I've been pushing boss audio for 10 yrs minimum. Every single pair had needed over 100 hours of flex time @ like 1/3 max power... then advance to like 2/3 max. After roughly 2 weeks... they really bang alot more.
Rocking 3-12" phantom 2ohm dvc. But I like em for the quality of mid & low! Great bang for the buck! 💯 🙌
🤣 Did you run them over?😂😂😂
There's a company called Dynavox that make the cheapest speakers I know of. The 6.5" is $11.00, have big motors and sound good, and i've actually used 'em. The $39.00 18"s have got me curious. Might make a good video.
😂😂this is like the match box cars you don't like to play with but you have to include them😂😂
Boss audio in the 90's was the Skar audio of today. Both are bottom tier crap but people still bought it up!
@CreatiVe they are both junk, just different scales of junk 🤷♂️.
@CreatiVe Back in the 90s, Boss was indeed what Skar is today, budget friendly junk to get a little bump in the trunk. Of course Skar is better as sub woofer than Boss, audio tech has advanced 100fold since the 90s and Boss clearly never advanced and with Skar being a newer company they had to at least utilize some degree of cookie cutter specs.
Lol damn
So, Steve Mantz built crap amplifiers? Even when he built them for Boss in the 90's and up?
@@Chuck_Sanders Boss amps always sucked, even when Zed was building PART of them.
Even when Zed was building part of the amps, the rest was cheaped out on and still didn't putout the documented rms ratings, even back then it was known, to take a Boss rms and cut it in half and you have your actual rms.
Besides, the amps he worked on weren't sold with the rest of the boss line ups, they were sold at a permium but were still crap.
He had better success with Hifonics and acoustics and a couple others.
I used to run boss amps back in the 90s the pawn store sold them new
Honestly decent subs for budget home audio, fs is relatively low (21hz) With a big, properly tuned box (7 ft3 or so) they would hit and sounds great. Wouldn’t want them in my car though
Why not
@@Manmadecontent just better equipment out there, not hating on the brand. It wouldn’t really meet my needs for a car audio application. I’m running a custom rf-t2
Love the last star fighter esuq motor assembly, gives the impression that 2500 watts could potentially launch these cones into orbit.
Certain kinds of people love everything rattling. Hell even the speakers themselves 😂😂😂
6 of these, in a proper sized 4th, on that amp, would be interesting build
Rule of thumb with BOSS ratings is to divide by 10 for the true rating.
Big beefy stuff, cuz thats math. Had me dead😂
Going back and watching old builds like this and the Walmart and kicker series. I’m surprised they took anything . I bet with a budget amp those would bang decent just don’t show anyone the setup lol! Digging in the crates with Parker and big d wiz ona Friday 🤘🏻🤘🏻
The beginning of this video was hilarious
Like everyone says, preciate the budget stuff testing.
Good to hear!!
Super hilarious sarcasm in the beginning 😂😂😂
the sarcasm is so good
Loved the sarcasm
I dont know the price of These but the Main differences i can see in the tsp is that they dont have the best spl and need very big enclosures but for a starter with a small amp and much room they could do okay and maybe the customer get the Chance to upgrade from that Cheap Single 15 to a decent 18inch in the Same enclosure
What’s your favorite budget 12” subwoofer? I’ve ran a single American bass xfl or whatever it was called.. it was 200$ and I’ve also ran dual Rockford p3s they all sounded good. I just want to know what your favorite dual 12” set up was on a budget. I’m having a hard time figuring out what I want without wasting my money.
Skar DDX subs are very good for the money. Jacob Fuller(Sundown) designed them for Kevin. Nice drivers, handle more then rated power, great motor design, and sound great for the price point. I don't promote brands and u don't bash brands either. But, they're good daily subs.
Right now for 245 bucks you can get the mtx terminator dvc 12s in box with a 500.1 amp. Subs are 1000 watts each so 2000 watt max. Great deal
Dang…..you were blowing leaves off the trees!!!! Impressive……….right up until it wasn’t…………lmmfao
Hahahahaahah
Put all 4 in a sealed box and they would sound great. Not so much a SPL subwoofer, but surprisingly nice SQ.
from the numbers looks like a big sealed box is needed with the low fs I'd guess your right about sq
@@tattoosbyMrIndio the fs of a driver, doesn't really mean anything. The Vas and Q factors, is what matters more.
Surprised…not bad for the price…imagine 12 of these….
If I was going to do a budget build though I would run lanzar audio
Yeah I want to do something with Lanzar haha
I had two memphis mojo 15s in high-school, kid came in rolling with 2 of these boss subs and thought they were far superior to mine. Lol he was proven wrong.
This shows how well even craps sub can bang in a nice big ole box.
Hey Parker! Love your videos, I've been playing with "Discreetly" converting my work truck system into a beast being that I'm not trying to piss off my boss of 30+ years. 😂😂😂🤔🤫 Just wandering what 3 shallow 10" enclosures you would recommend using. I drive a "Honey wagon" and from what I used so far....turned heads and only have gotten great feedback from everyone on all my job sites. And I've only been using some amature equipment that easily blow my boxes apart.
Can't wait to see what happens!!!
that sundown is ridiculous i love it!
2500w is underrated! I had two of these bad boys in my suburban on a Boss 5k doing 160db on music. I had two capacitors and my voltage never dropped below 10.5 so the amp was probably doing more like 15k. I ended up selling them because I was tired of replacing all my windows and gaskets from the subs blowing my windows out.
Lol 160 db.
🤣😅🥱
15k...on a BOSS 5k. lol
@@theejoeylee yes.. bc all amps triple ... I mean 10x .... with 3v more 😅
I had 2 of these in my house on 1000 watts and a mouse fart through a microphone shook my house like a hurricane.... I'm kidding of course lol. I went through a couple of them before I smartened up and bought some better shit.
LMAO love the intro 😂
Hilarious video..they are sum bad boys..for beginners!!!
Dude that sounds like a flipflop banging on a baking pan.. But you make it look good..
This video was amazing man the sarcasm 🤭🤣🙆♂️
Haha thanks man! It was fun to make!
You can probably use them as dj subs in horn loaded enclosures.
I like to put these in old 80's floorstanding speakers. You can find them in thrift stores and goodwill. I just got a pair of sony 3 way speakers. They have a 1.5 in tweeter, 3 inch midrange and 10 inch sub. I got two 10 in pyle powers off of Amazon for $35. I cut out the 3 inch midrange hole and put hole for some old 6x9's. 🤣 They sound amazing now and they can handle at least 300 watts each. Heck they could even work for a pa or dj system. I reinforced the inside with braces.
They actually surprised me
Wow man! The mic you used to record the subs is really BOSS! 🤫🤣
Do an isobaric 8th order with them! 186db at 31hz ?
Aw man!! Soo much flex in those bad boys absolutely tearing that interior apart!!!
Bro I've been watching for a long time and love your channel great to see you mess with 15s now 👏
Can u drop a playlist of the music if possible
I had those like 10 years ago...due to their qts and vas a huge box is the way to go if u want them to have any kind of sq...
Lmfao when I saw the numbers I was thinking that's a huge sealed box I'm sure it sounds good in a proper box
Who else wants to see him review the massive pride 15in subwoofers
I was thinking about using 8 of those to make a wall, purely to screw with people at stereo competitions. Just have like a single particle board sheet, propped up by two 2x4's. Run them off the deck power only.
LOL That would be fucking hilarious XD I kinda wanna do that now.
No you weren't 🤣
I kinda wanna make an umtra-budget system with super cheap subs, since a lot of the extra cheap subs have high efficiency, you can get away with running like 4 of them on a stock alt and still push them to their limits. I wanna get like 4 of those BOSS 18s and throw them in a scrappy box and see what happens. They're like 250wrms but like 91db efficiency...
Those subtitles got me rolling
This Was a very interesting video , loved the sarcasm lol I didn't expect them to hold up at anything over 500wrms lol
Yeah they took some pretty insane power in the bursts!
@@ParkerTheBasshead check out my car stereo system on my channel it's all second hand equipment JBL 12inch subwoofer Kenwood 500wrms amp Kenwood speaker's and headunit been asking for second hand builds from like flee markets and second hand Shops I find U can build a fairly good setup on a really tight budget my system cost me $50 for the JBL sub , amp was $50 I got the speaker's and headunit from a car wrecking yard for $40 it's no comp setup it plays sq and bass too the video nothing like sending the front windshield gives a idea of what it's like (song is clouded by rates)
@@ParkerTheBasshead so what would you estimate the true rms as? About 500 per sub?