How Bad is Amazon’s Sundown CLONE? WLLDSE 15 Review
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2023
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The fact that they can offer a sub above 1000rms for a low price is great. I'm 52 and back in the early 90s when I got into car audio low price high rms sub was unheard of. You kids nowadays have it easy when it comes to car audio.
Easy in some regards, harder in others. The key is that modern semiconductor technology goes up while its price goes down.
Shit I’m pushing 2 12 premier’s 3000 watts max an pushing 1000watt rms. Got it on a 2400w hifonics Brutus. Shit is hitting crazy!
You got that right!
they are spoiled rotten. no appreciation for where things are today.
@@drutangyes and no. Sensitivity is down from back in the day. A 500watt sub from the 90's whould sound as loud to the ear as a 1000w sub thats out now. All going for power handling and spl and firgetting about the quality and sensitivity
You have to appreciate this era of competition and audio. It’s good for the consumer.
Agreed!
Yes, there's a price range for everybody.
It's all the same Chinese clone garbage from the same Chinese clone build houses with different labels.
@@asherdie No sir, thats an over generalization from someone who doesn't understand the market.
They all Chinese lol
It's another awesome video from Parker The Bass Head..
Thank you Big Jeff!
Parker is like the Grim Reaper of subwoofers... If you're showing up in his party better bring the beef lol or it's off to a smokey afterlife... Keeping these sub companies on their toes.
Haha yep sounds about right!
12 thousands watts should push most subs to their limits!! Parker has a nice setup for testing subwoofers!
😂sholl is... if SUBWOOFERS had feet's they would run away hell they would roll away from GRIMM PARKER....😂 But dats why I watch you though 😂
On them 🥜🥜
Get the U's!
Added challenge, measure with DATS see how close it is to the real deal!
Likely differences
Spider: bolted, size and stiffness
Basket: smaller spider landing
Top plate, pole and backplate: material type and dimensions
Coil: you pointed out very different coil
It's only the basket that's the same, Dayton used it as well. But these are solid subs. wlldse has been around fur years.
You guys have to realize all your subwoofers and amps come from mostly the same build houses in china. All these companies do is pick from a catalog and they are made, that's why so many of them look the same with slight differences. Big companies like Sundown,DC,Fi design their own baskets,surrounds,motors..ect and thats why they are superior to other brands and everybody tries to copy.
Good to see an economical choice 👍 Been looking at these for 1.5 yrs or so... Thanks for doing the torture test 🙂 Parker
Parker always coming out with some banger videos
11:30 fun fact: the real Parker The Basshead reviews are his facial expressions as the bigger the smile, the better review the subs get 😂
That was surprising for sure. Great review Parker!!
I havent seen your vids in a while. Im glad to see you have more confidence! Even the way you speak has gotten better. Keep doing great things parker :)
Well it did better than 98% percent of subs that lie about their stats, Rockville.
Haha fair enough!
I'm having trouble with the math. So you take all the subs that have incorrect specs, and of those, this sub was in the top 2%? Are you implying this product has incorrect specs? Why group it in that category?
@@ParkerTheBasshead You the man good info and you staying on top of your game!!
Very nice bro. I introduced these subwoofers to youtube about four years ago when they first came out
Yessir!
Thank you so much Parker for doing these videos!
I had the 10s back in 2019. A great product for the money.
Love these videos man 💯💯
I have one of these in my expedition and I'll be honest I was shocked. It absolutely hammers down and takes the abuse way better than I expected. I have smelled it a few times but the dust cap is never hot to the touch.
How much power you throwing at it?
I'm buying one this week. Going from a 600rms, so double power should be fun !
I would have to say for the money this is a great budget minded value! Would like to see a 1 year update to see how it holds up as far as life expectancy goes.
Great video Parker! I would love to see you try out a colossal sounds ultra series those subs are some beasts!
Thanks to you and one other who did a review on an Amazon sub,I bought 4 harmony audio carbon 10s on 2 jp33s wired to .67 each,pretty nasty and they gobble up the power,thanks for what ya do man
Another great video Parker very economical sub for the price point thanks again Parker
I have the hst model in the mean time to save weight. And this sucker is doing great. Super stiff cone 3inch coild and out bangs the Hyanka for less!
Little sneak peak a big amp and multiple subs looks like a fun build!!!!
Yessir!! 🤫
There’s like 25 different no name subs on Alibaba. I want to see them all tested!
I don’t trust many of those subs because they can be nothing more than a heavy block of ferrite with a weak motor and a high power rating to compensate. Sundown Audio owns a proper magnetizer so you are getting full power with them.
There's many different ways to make a bad subwoofer, but only a few ways to make it good. I would not suspect that the cheap subs use poor magnetizers, my guess would be they make the gap too wide to give extra tolerance for the quickly put together parts with little to no quality control. This reduces the chances of a coil rubbing, but really reduces the motors strength.
It's all Chinese anyways, from American Bass to Sundown. Testing is the only way.
@@bjenks2 It's all Earth built. So must be the same.
Jld audio makes these subs. Also makes DC audio and many others
My 2 Wlldse HCY12s are still hanging in there! I did add 60g of weight to the cone and tossed a new 7" cap over it and made a huge difference in there ability to dig deep. They had an FS of 43htz out of the box, after breaking in from a couple months of flex the FS dropped to 38htz better but still a bit high. But with the added mass and new big cap the FS is now at 30htz! Woohoo. They went from being super tight and punchy sounding perfect for metal and kick drum but the low lows were pretty weak. (Partially the higher tuning and smaller than ideal enclosure the unfortunate part of limited trunk space) but as soon as I fired them up with the lower FS low 30s were way stronger., They are a bit less punchy obviously but it's a happy median of good lows and still punchy. Only problem now is a small trunk 2 subs 1 nice an warm a/b 4 channel and a 2k at .5 ohm I'm having heat issues . There's also a 24ah headway battery pack but it doesn't put off any heat. Thing that sucks is My car has Perma coil stink where I've got dem puppy's warm a bunch of times, and my monoblock shuts down for few seconds if flexed hard on hot days. I need ventilation! At least the car isn't black also
Packaged better than DC & can get two 15s for less than a real sundown 👌
Yea, but when you have that real Sundown like me. There's no going back to stuff like this. Though I might buy a 12" for my son's bedroom.
@@carlospacheco8640I have 4 sundown u (15). I blew one and bought one of these. My DB went from a 152.7 to a 152.4. so I can attest they are pretty much clones
@@PeterFeltersnatch852the basket is the only thing that is the same, even Dayton and others use this basket. It isn't a clone of the U at all though.
I’d try one for sure. Thanks for the video Parker
The Kicker Competition 12" sub (late 90's, one step up from Impulse and down from Solo) was always $100 and was a good bassline (ahem) for nearly two decades.
That this is $150 is mind-blowing if you take inflation into account; amazing.
Had 8 of them
@@JeremySpoken-7 Wall?
I'm curious about the direct comparison with the u15. Hard not to notice the surfboard and pallet of subwoofers at the end of the video 😁
This sub has great potential to those whom just want to bang on the streets.
Great demo Parker keep up the great work.
It's not center vented because how they designed that originally to work. It pulls air up and through and out the top of the gap between the top plate and basket.
Wow! Im about to drop this same subwoofer video this week, I got different results but overall great video!!
For $150 these are F'n AWESOME
I agree!
It's already unavailable 😕 good video Parker 👍
Yeah there were only a couple in stock when I bought it
Nice video as always
Thank you as always!!
Parker! Love your videos. I’m on team deaf bonce with a full deaf bonce build and will be at the sundown audio show doing demos as well. I have 6 302 in a 4th order c pillar. It’d be cool to demo beside you and show off deaf bonce!!!
Heck yeah man! Definitely come park next to me if you can!
@@ParkerTheBasshead I’ll try haha that’s be awesome
Thats excitting to hear about your new build with DB.
Awesome vid my brotha
Dang that thing was taking some power
I have one of these in a 3.7 cube box at 32 hz with 2 jp8s strapped at 2 ohms to it and it takes a beating everyday and it doesnt give up.
We want to see you do 6-12s asap!
Nice review!
Immediately, the center vent (or lack there of) is a big turn off. I'll keep watching to see how it does, but that's always been a must for me if I'm expecting low frequency reproduction. Thanks for the video!
I've heard lots of good about these, was gonna buy one until I got a bdc3 for really good deal. Impressive to see it last thru the abuse, I feel like the DB test was alil disappointing tho. Surely youd think it would break 140 considering most decent single 12s will.
I love the little hint at the end of the video, I can't wait for the sundown show build lol.
Relative loudness at the windshield is a function of the vehicles resonant frequency, the location of the box, its vent or sealed baffle direction etc. I would be curious to see him swap the woofer out to lots of other brands in the same box facing the same way and play the same tracks.
Seeing him compare those results to what a program like Winisd or similar software shows would also be interesting.
I used to do DB Drag in a 1978 Toyota pickup with a 20R engine. Below the back window I cut out the metal to install a vented box in the bed of the truck. The box front was where the wall below the window used to be. That box started with (2) JL Audio 10" W3D2s that hit 146+db at 45hz at one of the DB Drag shows in the (2) woofer category. It was powered by (2) Crossfire cheater amps that were rated at like 35watts X 2 but at a low enough impedance they would put out 732 watts rms when bridged.
That box I tuned for maximum sound quality. Later I built a bigger box that was over 10 cubic foot for (2) Crossfire super cheap DB model 15"s and hit 154.7db at 57hz. That box I tuned specifially to hit 10hz above the vehicles resonant frequency due to the known phenomenon of the resonant frequency shifting up when you pressurize the vehicle due to high spl. I did break my original wind shield but the new one held up well with the wipers bouncing inches off the glass. This was way back in like 2001.
I mean he did the db test in a prefab box...
I would definitely like to see a comparison to sundown. Maybe through in a Black Diamond subwoofer too. I recently got a couple black diamond 12"s and just looking at them they seem impressive for what they are.
I saw this sub on Amazon about a month ago and seriously considered buying one. Scored a U18 instead.
Как иногда после работы приятно вас иностранцев посмотреть!🤟🤗 Я поэтому и подписался мне нравятся твои обзоры и тесты авто систем!👌 У меня у самого 4 колонки суммарно киловатт из 2 здоровенных колонок😊
This is the second time I’ve watched this video. Every time I watch it I die laughing at that DC shot you threw out. It’s a shame cause most of their stuff is fantastic. Either way it’s hilarious and I love the shot taken 😂. Keep bassin on dude and keep torturing those sub!!
Also looks similar to my sa v3 15 sundown subs basket wise but honestly bro great review and sadly just blew my subs up today cuz getting ready for recone so blew up my zv5 12s and sa v3 15s and neos so be ready bro for the next demo in zilla
I got the ma515d2 for my dj sub box so far I'm loving the sound
About to cop four of these lol
Great review of this budget sub. Looks to be a decent performer! Cant wait to see what you do with all that new DB gear! Thanks Parker!
Thanks!
THANK YOU!!
Also got the 12" version in a skar prefab vented single sub box actually like these for the price I say they are pretty good.
Still to this day you can't convince me different. Dark audio had some of the best " budget " line of subs. When I got mine they were 100 bucks a piece, they took a solid 800-1000 watts all day and in a sealed box to spec they systematicly dismantled my crown Vic.
I went to buy some online when they were 100 and when I put 2 in my cart and went to check out they were raised..dki tried to tell me they never changed the prices and they were never $100 lol.
Thought it was gonna blow give the sub some love
can you test a ground zero sub with that test, it would be interesting since here in finland gz is thaught as a good all around sub
That was impressive
Parker I've followed you for a while and buy subwoofers based off your opinions and video's. I just bought 2 of these but 12s and was wondering did you let this woofer break-in if so how long? Or did you straight send it to the moon?
I changed out my amps a few times to check something, I started with a crossfire 1000 watt mono block amp to push a set of 12s JLs W3, that amp made those subs sound great!!! then I tried a MTX 1000 watt amp, same thing happened, they sounded great, so then I tried a cheap CT Sound 1000 watt amp and again it sounded awesome. it seems to me that it doesn't matter really what kind of amp you have, BC I did this same thing with subs. the JLs handled everything and still sounded great, but when I changed the subs from JLs to Orion XTRs DVCs they blew, MTXs blew, crossfires blew, the only thing that sounded good through out my experiment was the JLs. so from now on, im not spending boat loads of cash on amps. im happy with cheap amps, but you can not skip on the subs. I recommend JLs or anything that might be better. but amps, they all seem to sound the same to me. it might be different in competitions, but for the people just wanting some shove in their rides, cheap amps work for me, they might work for you too.
You should try 12 inch directed sx12d4 I love it it’s been pounding for years
So my question would be do you think you can re-cone with a Sundown recons?
Hey that sub was great it held up well i wish the were a available here in the uk well worth the money
I wished that we could get over the made in China thingy due to most manufacturers are using those components due to a better profit margin and let's not get it twisted...its all about the revenue.....either you you will like it or you will not and the ultimate goal is does it work well within one's budget.
Thanks for introducing this sub...it is a nice offing for those whom are limited or just starting off in car audio.
Yo P been a min, have you looked at the Monolith 18” Harmony Audio? Nice vid bub
Crazy stuff 😮
I would love to have this sub looks like a decent budget woofer
Wow that sub did pretty good. Thats awesome for a budget build. Have you seen those golden eagle subs? Seen a few builds with em and they pound as well. $175 for a 15 inch 1500rms sub. Itd be cool to see you do a vid on those 😁
They're very solid subs. They get down
I almost got those on eBay before I ordered my EVL18s they where pretty much same price for 2 18s it was like 20 dollar difference
Parker can you do a side by side comparison of the xfl and the hawk
I would like to know what your low excursion song is so I can run it through my subs could you tell me please and thank you
Love your videos I’m kinda new to the channel but you do great work and I get a lot of information from so thank you
I had the wlldse subs years ago it was the candy purple motor
Im debating getting one of the 12s
was having idea about independent sub control so if you have 10 15s you can have them hitting different times or playing different stuff and then get the frequencies just right and levitate your car ..?
You should make a video on the u15 it would be awesome but it’s a disappointment that they are discontinuing the u15v1 only gonna be making the u15v2 now.
What happens if you only do a big 2 upgrade? 2/0 from battery to alt and 2/0 from battery to alternator?
Would be nice for a comparison even if it's a quick mention in the middle of a future SD vid..
What watt amp is the apocalypse box behind you on you table?? Or what was that. I seen it at the end of the video.
Can you do a video on the best 10s? I'm looking to put 2 10s in my car but it's hard to find the right sub. Might go with DC audio level 4 but idk yet.
Seems to be a nice choice
Le is off the charts at a high 2 this sub made for spl/rap in a ported box
Solid option I would say
Thanks for the test… it’s funny that he refuses to give the sub its props… it did well, but he kept downplaying it… lol
I had two 10 inch sub of that brand. The handled some power and sond good! But can never find them again.
I have 2 of these 15s they are Stout woofers and can handle tons of power with the right box and good power these sound great. Those Elite AB subs are not a good comparison to these, u would need to compare the Xfl to this woofer these wllsde HCY woofers take a while to break in , they are super stiff
XFLS are super under rated. They are what I call the king of sleeper subs.
@@RHuntherI owned a few in my big builds they are good subs these are impressive for the price
Hey Parker do you still have any busbars batteries I'm interested in one
Is it okay to hook up my amp rms 1,200 watts to my car battery?will it drain it quicker or cause problems?
I'd love to see the deaf bonce MF-15R reviewed, here its only 150eur and promises 1200w rms, its deaf bonce so probably would hold up, but a review would be great.
i’m looking for an amp that will power 2 audiopipe bdc4 15s i currently have a hifonics 32001.d but it’s just not loud enough at all. on the amp dyno i’m pretty sure it only puts out 600rms per channel
Hey hi im trying the get help i have 2 sdrs skar dual coil 2ohm and i habe a taramp bass 3k
And i cant get it rigth how i can set tha gain, low pass and frequensy??
you should deffinetly compare the sundown u15 to this sub im curious to also see your opinion on the sundown u 15
*His smile will let you know they hitting!* 😄😄
139 in what looks to be a skar prefab is pretty good should do low 140's in a proper box which is awesome for the price
I remember when big magnet subs like that were a fortune, unattainable, now they are easily attainable for any person with the love for audio.
Looks to me like these can be re-coned?
Bro pretty impressive
what sub would you recommend it has to be a 12” and 800rms don’t really have a lot of money so would like to get just subs without having to get anything else i was going to get the skar svr-12s but i had a friend tell me the voice coils are bad on that series
can you suggest a good 3" woofer please? Thank you
I have four of these in my 06 Scion xB and they have been beating the bondo out of the roof. Don’t ask me why there’s bondo in the roof because I don’t know. That being said I’m very happy with the WLLDSE HCY-15 for now but I do plan to get some better ones soon.
Hey Parker...running around 3k with potential of 5k ....using one dual 12in american bass xr12 ....would like to use 2 12s or a single that can handle little more power ....which def bonce subs do you suggest ...my vehicle is a 1998 s10 ...3 layers sound matt ...frame grounds 0 guage ...jp23v1.5 amp ...for subs ....upgraded alternator....etc.. just want to match either 2 12s ...or 1 12 to the potential of my amp ....with the American Bass xr ...if I go half gain or more on my jp23v1.5....it sends it strait to clipping ...
Love my DC subs. I know what box they require. Glad I didn't buy Deaf Bonce ! About to order 6 level 6 18s for my Escalade.
Was thinking about buying dc audio instead I went a fi neo 4.11 18