DeLonghi Dedica Disambiguation: EC680, EC685, EC785, EC885

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @TomsCoffeeCorner
    @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +7

    Product links in the description above. ☝Thanks for watching, comments are welcome! 👍
    tomscoffeecorner.com/delonghi-dedica-ec680-ec685-ec785-ec885-whats-the-difference

  • @colinbennington4157
    @colinbennington4157 Год назад +14

    I bought the EC 885 and used for the first time today. I bought direct from Delongi as they had a great deal on. I am very happy. Makes amazing coffee. Can make Latte’s and Cappuccino. I also grind my own beans.I highly recommend this machine, awesome.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @cponce7
    @cponce7 2 года назад +6

    God bless you Tom. Thanks for doing this comparison. I couldn't tell what all the differences were until I saw this. Many thanks!

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      My pleasure, Carlos! I thought there must be others just as confused as I was. I might do another one about the myriad of Eureka Mignon models. Cheers!

  • @stradnyc
    @stradnyc 2 года назад +5

    Thank you Tom for solving the mysteries that I always wanted to know the differences of these models.
    I had to let my baby CE865 go when I relocated overseas. By the way the machine was outstanding in good quality as a manufacturer refurbished, I sold almost the same value as I’d acquired. :)

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      Very nice! These machines have held up well for me, too. Just had to change the OPV in one, and do a pump overhaul in another that was 5 years old.
      Which machine have you bought after moving overseas? Cheers!

    • @stradnyc
      @stradnyc 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner Cheers from Australia! Now I have the De’Longhi Maestro EC9665. In near future we hope to watch you’d explore into that territory as well :D

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Oh very nice! I did a few vids on the EC9155, the Specialista Arte. How do you like the Maestero? Australia is sweet - would love to visit there some day.

  • @samuray500
    @samuray500 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for the info!!
    I was looking for this explanation everywhere, even int the brand website and nothing...

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! I thought if I need the comparison, other people might too. 👍🏻

  • @TomJones-tx7pb
    @TomJones-tx7pb 2 года назад +18

    If these machines had a pressure gauge to help fine tune the grind size, they would be a superb machine for easily learning pretty much everything important about how to pull a good shot. They represent the best value for money when combined with a decent grinder.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +3

      Totally agree, Tom! I would love to see these come with a nice pressure gauge. Maybe I will try installing one someday and seeing how it works. But for sure, these are great little, portable, handy and ergonomic machines, for sure!

    • @RakanWD
      @RakanWD 2 года назад +1

      Pressure gauge is not needed.
      Most professional commercial espresso machines has no pressure gauge.
      It is all about the timing, and the weight, but the existence of a pressure gauge is irrelevant.

    • @TomJones-tx7pb
      @TomJones-tx7pb 2 года назад +1

      @@RakanWD OK if you say so.

    • @lucasl1047
      @lucasl1047 2 года назад

      @@TomJones-tx7pb i think he means not having a pressure gauge does not strip their title of best value for money, and I believe you agree with that, I hope.

  • @zeuskyst
    @zeuskyst 2 года назад +4

    Oh my god. Thank you so much for making this video.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      You bet! Which one do you like best?

    • @zeuskyst
      @zeuskyst 2 года назад +1

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner I like the EC885 best because of the steam wand. Thanks to your video I was able to take the decision and ordered one 2 days ago.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      @@zeuskyst Very nice! I am curious to hear back from you about the steam wand, and the nicer tamper. 🙋🏼‍♂

    • @zeuskyst
      @zeuskyst 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner I used it for the first time today. The tamp feels good. It's weighted and definitely much nicer than the plastic one. The steam wand also feels nice. I don't have any reference of comparison since I haven't used a high end machine before but everything looks and feels solid. I wasn't able to steam my milk successfully today, but I might have been doing something wrong. So I will try again tomorrow. Let's see.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      @@zeuskyst Hey Zeus, thanks for that update! The steaming might take some practice of course. Try keeping the tip just barely under the surface to start, and towards the side of the pitcher, to get a swirl going. You may need to tilt your pitcher slightly as well. Let me know how it goes! Tom

  • @johnpatrickzape2974
    @johnpatrickzape2974 3 месяца назад +1

    i already bought EC885 now on transit going here in the philippines i hope it will do good with my small coffee shop business

  • @brunoleitemilkie
    @brunoleitemilkie Год назад +1

    Hi Tom! Now Delonghi have EC950M Dedica Maestro Plus. It can frothy milk automatic. Overall it is the same of EC885? Cheers from Australia!

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад +2

      Hi Bruno! Wow, I wish I could get my hands on an EC950. They haven't released them outside of AU as far as I know. I am waiting... :)

    • @brunoleitemilkie
      @brunoleitemilkie Год назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner Oh, I didn't know. I was looking for information about it and couldn't find it anywhere. here it costs twice as much (AUD $400) as the EC885 model (AUD $200). As I've never had any machine, I think I'll go with the EC885. Cheers for the video! I hope you get one to test soon! ☕

  • @Salazes123
    @Salazes123 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks. What about the EC695?

  • @fratini.
    @fratini. 5 месяцев назад +1

    In my country only the EC680 model is available.
    Do you think is it still worth it nowadays? Tks!

  • @claudiorasf
    @claudiorasf 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Tom, it's possible to replace the steam wand from plastic to metal? I got a deal on the EC680 and I would like to install a steam wand like the EC885. Thank you.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  11 месяцев назад +1

      The steam wand on the EC885 is not available, but you can install a Rancilio one. I did a video on it. Cheers!

    • @claudiorasf
      @claudiorasf 11 месяцев назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCornerthat's great. Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out!

  • @CarolinaRodriguez-cx8ye
    @CarolinaRodriguez-cx8ye 4 месяца назад

    Hi! Are the filter holders of the EC885 and EC685 the same? Can the same filter holder be used in both?

  • @sarahcolak9673
    @sarahcolak9673 2 года назад

    Hi Tom
    Vielen Dank für deinen Kanal!!
    Weil ich mich nicht traue die Dampflanze zu wechseln, überlege ich mir die 885 (welche es auf Amazon gibt) zu kaufen.
    Aber passen da auch der empfohlene Bodenlose Siebbehälter und die einwandwandigen Siebe rein?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Servus, Sarah! Danke für das Zuschaun! Ja, die Brühgruppe ist genau gleich, von daher passen alle Accessoires.
      Die graue ist momentan die günstigste Maschine: amzn.to/3DJz1mk
      Hier ein empfohlene Neouza bodenlose: amzn.to/3Fvxyla
      Ich habe die Neouza für die La Specialista, und der passt gut.
      Schönen Abend! Tom

  • @MegaStamandster
    @MegaStamandster 2 года назад

    There seems to be one more with buttons on the very bottom, though, I haven't figured out the exact model number.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Oh? I have never seen that one...let me know when you find the model number!

    • @MegaStamandster
      @MegaStamandster 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner sorry! I'm a klutz, they were just stickers! Wow so sorry

  • @devintarizkyutami9793
    @devintarizkyutami9793 Месяц назад

    Which one is better, delonghi ec885 or kitchen aid ??

  • @VincentAmari
    @VincentAmari 2 года назад

    hi Tom, you mention the EC885 has a large basket but didn't provide explanation, can you clarify please, is the diameter different to previous versions?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +2

      Actually, the EC885 comes with non pressurized baskets, a single and double. The difference is that you need a fine espresso grind. The previous generations had pressurized filters, that had lots of tolerance for grind size. Cheers!

    • @VincentAmari
      @VincentAmari 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner oh so that means the EC885 can't use ESE pods?

  • @alkiviadisalexakis4886
    @alkiviadisalexakis4886 2 года назад +1

    What about that annoying and always-there noise due to the vibration of the water tank? I need to hold it firm with my hand all the time. Also the quality of the metal tray is bad; the surface gets scratched easily. Other than these, I do love my EC685.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Oh my current machine, I don’t have an issue with the water tank lid vibrating. But, you could make it the spot for your tamper maybe (as long as it doesn’t fall off). 👍🏻 did you check to make sure that your machine is completely level? I agree, this is a great little machine!

    • @FrederikEngelen
      @FrederikEngelen 2 года назад

      Agreed on the scratches, they were annoying to look at... I used a Scotch brite pad to give it the same brushed finish as the rest of the machine. It looks really good and only took a few minutes.

  • @nelsonsa1374
    @nelsonsa1374 Год назад

    Hey Tom,
    Can you please suggest capsules adapter? Thanks for your videos :)

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад

      Sorry, I don't know of one, to be honest. Anyone else?

  • @FaithTzuChanel
    @FaithTzuChanel 2 года назад +1

    Does the arte wand in EC885 can be applied to EC685/785?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +3

      That is a very good question. If I could find one as a spare part, I would definitely try it!

  • @JohnDoe-Alien
    @JohnDoe-Alien 2 года назад +3

    I found the steaming wand to be pretty terrible on the 885 so I just bought another 685 model.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +2

      Oh that’s too bad. May I ask what you didn’t like about it?

    • @danaradukembayeva5114
      @danaradukembayeva5114 2 года назад

      Agree, I have a new machine and I still can’t get a nice froth. Can it be because of the wand or I’m doing something wrong?🤷‍♀️

    • @alinaqirizvi1441
      @alinaqirizvi1441 Год назад

      Are you sure it was bad? It's just different and slightly harder to use although it can yield better results

    • @JohnDoe-Alien
      @JohnDoe-Alien Год назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner I just wasn't able to create any froth what so ever. On the 685 it was so easy. It seemed to lack power

  • @misku_
    @misku_ 7 месяцев назад

    Super useful video, thank you! 👍

  • @DjDeathBat
    @DjDeathBat 2 года назад

    Is the steam wand really better on the 885 compare to the 685?
    In Europe the 885 costs 100$ more so I'm wondering if it's worth it?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      The steam wand is much nicer to use, yes. The EC885 also comes with a metal tamper. But you have to decide which to buy. They’re both good deals in Europe, in my opinion.

  • @henrylo1384
    @henrylo1384 2 года назад

    Hi Tom, which one would you recommend for a beginner like me? 685 or 785?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Hi Henry, they are both the same (besides colors). If I could recommend any, then the EC885, since it is better to steam milk with. Cheers!

  • @ami7733
    @ami7733 2 года назад

    hello sir thanks a lot .
    do all the models include 3 filters - for 1 cup , for double cup, for pds ?
    what about the milk steam wand in ec 685 ? does it give good thicky milk enough ?
    i ask because i don't want to spend more money for pithcher and dumper .
    and also I want to say that today I have ecov 11 delonghi for the last 3 years and its good enough for espresso,
    , but the milk steam doesn't work well , and I never succeed to get thicky foaming milk like I get from "aeroccino nespresso" or "lavazza milk easy amodo mio " for example .

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      Hi! I would say that it is easier to steam milk with the EC685 over the Icona, especially if you remove the panarello. Also, yes all machines come with those same 3 baskets. Cheers!

    • @ami7733
      @ami7733 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorneryou really help

  • @Kokeshiflower
    @Kokeshiflower Год назад

    Hi, I can currently buy the 685 for around £155, as it's on sale. The 885 is around £80 more. Is it worth paying this much more for the newer model?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад +1

      I think so. You get a tamper and a proper steam wand. Cheers!

    • @Kokeshiflower
      @Kokeshiflower Год назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner I've purchased the 885 - can't wait for it to arrive!

    • @jelenajelena71
      @jelenajelena71 Год назад

      ​@@Kokeshiflower как взбивает молоко?

  • @ashokkhatri9325
    @ashokkhatri9325 2 года назад +1

    If I am a new buyer and am looking to buy either the 685 or the 885 model with the price difference between the two being $70 for me. Which one in your opinion would you recommend? is the upgrade from the 685 model to the 885 model worth the additional $70?
    Great video, thank you for your assistance in advance.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Hi Ashok, go for the EC 885 every time. The steam wand is much better, and it comes with a tamper. 👍🏻
      Not to mention, if you ever plan to sell, resale value will be better because it’s the new model.

    • @jelenajelena71
      @jelenajelena71 Год назад +2

      ​@@TomsCoffeeCorner очень много в интернете отзывов, что 885 плохо взбивает молоко.

  • @scorpo.2000.platinum
    @scorpo.2000.platinum 2 года назад +1

    Well the 885 with steam wand is not that necessary bc there thousands of rancilio silvia steam wand that you can put on dedica

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      That might be, but I have the feeling the new one is still a better shape for steaming.

    • @scorpo.2000.platinum
      @scorpo.2000.platinum 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner idk it is still steam wand

  • @jvirusz89
    @jvirusz89 Год назад

    Is all the portafiller size same across all the model?

  • @laowai2000
    @laowai2000 Год назад

    Quite happy with an EC685 with wand upgrade costing just USD $14, plus upgrade to open basket. All thanks to finding this channel.

  • @konstantin132
    @konstantin132 Год назад

    Thank you Tom, best review. I love my ec685, now ec885 is the best on market for semi professional home coffe machine, I like it. But, I want and will buy next 995 model with bar and temperature meters and 53mm portafilter. How this fantastic idea for delonghi? :)

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад +1

      Good idea Konstantin, but Delonghi always uses 51mm, and I am not sure they'd include a temp meter, but we can dream!

  • @csabacserepka6495
    @csabacserepka6495 Год назад

    Helo! Can i use the EC685 portafilter for EC78? Is it compatible?

  • @sunnycharacter
    @sunnycharacter Год назад

    I still trying to get my new 685 panarello to play nice. It is the worst panarello I’ve ever used. Really need to get it converted.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад +1

      Hi there! Just remove the panarello and add a zip tie, like I show here: ruclips.net/video/au92VvBYLrA/видео.html

  • @nabeelsherazi8860
    @nabeelsherazi8860 2 года назад

    A man after my own heart. I’ve owned my Dedica for about a year now and have just absolutely loved this machine. All I want to do is mod and upgrade it rather than buy any more “serious” machine (as they say on the forums).
    Also a question, do you know if there’s any difference between the numbered models and their “M” versions? for example EC680 and EC680M?
    Thank you and keep the videos coming!

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +3

      Hey Nabeel, thanks for the question. The letters at the end are just identifiers for the finish.
      M = Metal (stainless steel)
      W = White
      R = Red
      BK = Black
      BG = Beige
      PK = Pink
      GR = Gray

  • @StoneyLonesome92
    @StoneyLonesome92 2 года назад

    Do they all have the same pre infusion setting?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Good question: yes they do. It should be a five second pre-infusion.

    • @StoneyLonesome92
      @StoneyLonesome92 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks, including the original ec680?

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      @@StoneyLonesome92 Yes sir!

    • @StoneyLonesome92
      @StoneyLonesome92 2 года назад +1

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you, ended up ordering the ec685 and the rancilio steam wand. I ordered a dimmer switch as well to control pump flow, have you played around with that at all on your machines? Also, can you think of a way to test pressure at the group head without a 3 way valve? I haven't come up with a plan yet and was hoping you might have some input. If I can test the pressure at the group head the pump pressure could be adjusted 9 bars of output pressure since they don't have an OPV that can be adjusted.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      @@StoneyLonesome92 Hey there Markle, I do plan on doing a dimmer and OPV spring change, but I need some time to prepare for those. I do not currently know of a way to measure the pressure at the grouphead. I have a pressure gauge for the 58mm portafilter, but not for the Dedica. See this video to see the gauge I mean. Let's be in touch regarding upgrades.
      Pressure adjustment 12 to 9 bar: Gaggia ruclips.net/video/txWyLHnuuz0/видео.html

  • @mariiaoliinyk4340
    @mariiaoliinyk4340 Год назад

    Great video! Thank you

  • @kamyar9085
    @kamyar9085 2 месяца назад

    what about EC950 ? is it available in all regions?

  • @nemesio888
    @nemesio888 10 месяцев назад

    At last someone has discussed theses producst which all look similar from the outside

  • @4nc13nt
    @4nc13nt 2 года назад

    I just noticed when trying ot buy a new one for me, (the old one got jumped on by the fuking inlaws..) there is ec685.M and ec685.W... what's that all about?

    • @4nc13nt
      @4nc13nt 2 года назад

      Nevermind.. it's from the color, I've just noticed...

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      Hi Dave, M stands for Metal, or stainless steel metal. W is for white as you noticed. :)

    • @4nc13nt
      @4nc13nt 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner my confusion was because it had diffefent prices.. I deducted in my reptilian brain that is must be W from wide, I was thinking the w model is a bit wider...

  • @weightreduction1456
    @weightreduction1456 2 года назад

    Hey mate i just wanted to ask you a question. is ec685 comes with a pressurised basket or depressurised. Thanks.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Hey there. All DeLonghis I have seeen come with pressurized baskets. This one too.

    • @weightreduction1456
      @weightreduction1456 2 года назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks mate.

  • @pierrecharles1
    @pierrecharles1 2 года назад +1

    Dear mr. Tom, here is also a disambiguaty or shall I say major missing out in the review itself, I miss the verry important difference in 685 and 785. The 785 has 2 heatingsystems the 685 one.....at least in europe. This means you make a capucino much faster with the 785. Sorry for not native english with possible errors. Also I like to mention the fact that it is possible to dismantel rhe stupid aroma filters that are a affront for rhis machine for desent one layer ones. I come later back to tell you where to order. But i dont know if there is a allowens here to ad a link adress. ( Ohhh god I wish I could ad english spelling correction here. ( a dutchman)

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад +1

      Hello Pierre, your english is fine, and thanks for your comment! Are you sure about a dual thermoblock system? On the DeLonghi website, all the specifications are the same, except for the colors, and the extra accessories for the 785. Where did you read that the 785 has two heating systems? I'd be curious to find out. Greetings! Tom

    • @pierrecharles1
      @pierrecharles1 2 года назад +1

      give Dedica: cappuccino's zetten duurt langer
      De Dedica heeft een enkel verwarmingssysteem. Dit thermoblock moet zowel de melk als de koffie verwarmen. Je wacht met het opschuimen van de melk, totdat de koffiemachine klaar is met het zetten van espresso. Het kost enige tijd voordat het thermoblock hierna de juiste temperatuur heeft aangenomen voor het verwarmen van de melk. Hierdoor duurt het langer voordat je cappuccino klaar is.
      Dedica Metallics: cappuccino's zetten gaat snel
      Dedica Metallics: cappuccino's zetten gaat snel
      *********
      De Dedica Metallics modellen zijn uitgerust met een dubbel verwarmingssysteem. Het ene thermoblock verwarmt de melk en de andere verwarmt de koffie*******. Zo begin je meteen met het opschuimen van melk nadat de espresso klaar is. Je gaat hierdoor lekker vlot te werk en lang wachten is er niet bij. Heel handig, als je meerdere cappuccino's na elkaar wilt zetten.
      Snel achter elkaar cappuccino's maken
      De'Longhi Dedica Metallics EC 785 Grijs
      some time. I come back to anser.

    • @pierrecharles1
      @pierrecharles1 2 года назад

      Tom, and others....its all Dutch, dont shoot the pianoplayer....BUT....I accentuated the most important info...read the text between the asteriscs ( stars) it says in Dutch the 785 metallic has 2 thermoblocks.
      I am still confused if the word 'metallic' in the dessciption in fact is ment for the 850...but as you see they call the de Longhi with 2 thermo blocks 785!!! The 850 does not exist here.....So....maybe there is in europe a 685 , 785 and 785 metallic....would be confusing...I will write the firm Coolblue for explanation if there right with there claim of 785 .

    • @Vamire6666
      @Vamire6666 2 года назад

      @@pierrecharles1 no it has one thermoblock. I own one. So if you want to steam the milk first and then do an espresso you have to low the temperature first like all the others.

    • @pierrecharles1
      @pierrecharles1 2 года назад +2

      @@Vamire6666 yes your right. Only the types that are sold in Australia and New Zealand the 800 series have double blocks. The info in Coolblues shop is wrong about the metallic series in Europe and America

  • @memal7535
    @memal7535 Год назад

    احد يعرف فين يبيعو الاصدار الاخير ف السعوديه

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад

      Good question! Do you have Amazon, or which markets do you have?

  • @soysorray
    @soysorray 2 года назад +1

    Hey Tom! Thanks a lot for the comparison video. As many only reviewed the 685, I was unsure how big the changes between newer generations are. As a beginner, that should definitely settle it for me.

  • @danaradukembayeva5114
    @danaradukembayeva5114 2 года назад

    EC 885 doesn’t include a milk pitcher in US

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Yes, I just found that out! Sorry about that! Still a good machine for the price though.

  • @ОлегМиронов-т8с
    @ОлегМиронов-т8с 2 года назад

    Купил 685 , доволен, как слон!

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  2 года назад

      Can you tell me what that means in English please?

    • @andrewbras9125
      @andrewbras9125 Год назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorner He said that he bought 685 model and he was very pleased. :)

  • @_TR50i
    @_TR50i 2 года назад

    ممتاز 👍

  • @fethiam755
    @fethiam755 2 года назад

    السلام عليكم
    شكرا جزيلا على شرحك المفصل حول أنواع الماكنات🤩

  • @christophertheiss6701
    @christophertheiss6701 20 дней назад

    Seems like the 685 is the way to go as all the others after are the same with extra useless accessories

  • @jimjim7008
    @jimjim7008 Год назад

    These are the worst coffee machines in the market. You pay what you get. The frother is rather week and messy. Add couple of hundreds and get urself the breville express.

    • @TomsCoffeeCorner
      @TomsCoffeeCorner  Год назад +9

      I don't know. I get good results. There's a reason these are the most sold espresso machines.

    • @nemesio888
      @nemesio888 10 месяцев назад

      @@TomsCoffeeCorneri agree with you.these sell in our country like hotcakes

    • @Coffeeluver22
      @Coffeeluver22 10 месяцев назад +1

      Works great for me. Just have to know how it works by putting the time in practice.