I can’t possibly express how thankful I am for all the support. Thank you all, each one of you. EDIT: Videos to check if you’re confused or want the receipts/see the posts here are some videos that’ve been posted: Emily Artful: ruclips.net/video/Y3xHC4GwNrQ/видео.html Truth Sleuth: ruclips.net/video/EPcI83wyXKg/видео.html Omnia: ruclips.net/video/StdKVshmhl4/видео.html Omnia (part 2): ruclips.net/video/XTY161p5M_E/видео.html Hopeless Peaches: ruclips.net/video/2GykKDYkzVQ/видео.html
Jessi, I hope you're hanging in there! I'm so happy for you about the 🌈 baby and I hope you realize how much happiness you deserve. You truly seem like one of the good ones (youtubers lol), never stop being you 💖
I really liked her content so when things started coming out about her I didn't want to believe it. Then all this happens and there's so much evidence against her that I feel stupid for denying it the first time
“I believed her because she was my friend” 1. Nothing wrong with that as long as you acknowledge the truth when presented with evidence. People should be loyal to their friends. 2. She also high key manipulated you into believing her. You made a mistake of judgement that you corrected. Don’t feel guilty for someone else being awful.
@@christinecannibal844 it’s hard when people abuse you, not to beat yourself up in retrospect. I do it often like “how could I have not seen this?” “ how could I have allowed myself to manipulated like this, I’m so stupid”. But it’s not true, I’m not stupid. I’m just a person with feelings another sick person used. And it’s that sick person at fault, not me.
this! as long as you accept evidence and truth when it comes out, nothing wrong with changing your position. nothing wrong with initially taking your friend's side before anything else. I'm glad you're here promoting ppl to be a good friend, but not blindly loyal.
One of the most disturbing parts of this is that she sent you roses, knowing exactly what she’d done behind your back. It almost as if she gets off on it ..
@@laevan2053 Partially they really believe or they try to believe that this is a good behavior and they truly fix things in this way... while in reality it's just a manipulation. They even fool themselves in their own minds :ppp Watching some videos about sadistic/narcissistic personality really opens eyes.
A moment of appreciation for the admin(s) who confirmed all this. If not for them, Shannon's lies wouldn't have come to light this quickly and the situation would be 20 times worse. I hope you know that you have no commitment that is bigger than taking as many or as long of breaks as you possibly need to start healing and coming to terms.
They'd allegedly had their suspicions building for YEARS, but had just reached their limit of tolerating her nonsense, and one or a few of the admins on there just assembled this dossier on Shannon.
@@RedEzelt bruh yeah they exposed her, but I wouldn't thank the admins because the shit that gets posted on that website is crazy and vile. They only exposed her because she broke their own rules about self-promoting.
She lied to you, fooled you, mislead you, abused your intelligence and honestly, sending you roses is her sick way of making HERSELF feel better. I am so sorry you experienced this!
@m@mickeysminimouses & @Ordinary Girl Trying to be Fabulous - You're both right, and I hate that. Not because you've correctly assessed the situation, but that the assessment is that someone has truly horrible character. 😰
I never liked Creep Show Art. She seemed too happy about canceling everyone else, even for petty stuff. She's in everyone else's business, telling everyone how to do it.
It is, I feel bad for you guys who had to go through this. I remembered on one of your videos she commented on it being her favorites. That has to be be hard when the same person is doing all of this! I feel bad for Thumin, and all the others.
The roses were definitely a tactic to manipulate you into defending her when this all came out. Shannon is terrifying and needs serious, consistent, prolonged psychological help.
not to defend shannon, but i don"t think so. She'd have to send this in advance, how would she even know she'd get exposed ? I think it was just a part of her acting like they're "bestieeeees
@@noko8692 It was just a coupe of days before and she may have suspected it was going to happen because people were talking about it on lolcow, she caught wind of it.
@@noko8692 it's a buffer. People like this will butter you up every now and again a bit more. Also flowers wouldn't take too long to send, maybe a few days. She probably knew people were going to start talking and sending screens to those mentioned. Edit: not pepe, my Lord. I need to fix my autocorrect for that one. And my punctuation.
Remember that 'Storytime' where Shannon claimed that she overheard some girls talking about her at a Starbucks or something, but they ended up trashing her and laughing at how bad her channel is? Well if that was real those girls knew what was up lol
That might be a “ reversed narrative “ situation judging by her stalker story , she might be the one trash talking someone else’s channel then shift the narrative pretend to be a victim to gain sympathy.
@@Tombbistol And knowing all the shit she has done, that would a) be possible and b) be probably one of the mildest things she has done, if it happens to true 💀 This woman needs to get her head checked asap and thrown into a jail cell.
I have so much respect for how you handled this. Your perspective has been so helpful and I am so sorry you are going through this. It's a shocking situation.
I feel for you too Emily, you seemed to have a good friendship with her too. I was thinking about you when i saw the Emily art video. I feel for anyone who has been betrayed by her, it’s a horrible experience, worse than the breakup with a bf/gf imo
The fact that you STILL checked in with Shannon even after all of the stuff she did speaks volumes about how nice of a person you are. I hope you feel better about all of this soon
Imagine having someone publicly bash you and be exposed for heinous shit and you're still the bigger person enough to check in on them. Damn if thats not humanity.
I just saw Emily Artful's video on cheepshow art and it genuinely made me physically sick. I can't believe people are capable of being so atrocious and harmful to other people for so long without being held accountable, and without feeling the slightest pain in their conscious to make it stop.
Im glad this has come all out into the open. Im hoping emily can heal from the stalking, knowing whos doing it and having others know gives you some power back.
@@Willowtree82 And how exactly is Emily no angel? Not everyone is perfect in what they choose to do but when you go the extra mile to RUIN someone's life like Shannon did, Emily did NOT deserve that. No one would've known Shannon was a nasty and terrible person if these things didn't come to light.
The IP spoofing is less than "incredibly unlikely" - it's next to impossible, even for a pro hacker. A hacker can spoof an IP address for a DDoS, but they cannot spoof an IP address to connect to a webpage and, for example, post a comment. They would have to control two different routers that would require specific knowledge of the target server and the REAL version of the IP address they want to spoof. This is due to the TCP handshake, which is the server checking that a computer is opening a connection, and the computer saying "yes, I started this connection and wish to continue." Computer connects to server. It sends a specific set of data. This is initiating the handshake. Server receives the data, and then sends another set back to the computer. Computer sends another set of data to the server. THEN things like loading a webpage or logging into a service happen. What happens if someone spoofs an IP address? Computer connects to server, using a spoofed IP. It sends a data packet. Server sends a data packet to the machine with the IP address that was spoofed. The machine doesn't send a response since it didn't initiate the handshake. The connection ends.
There is also the fact that, if we are to believe “Amy” did spoof the IP, that would mean she’d been doing all of what you described for at least THREE years. After all, Shannon was only caught a few months ago and was active on Lolcow for a while. Why would “Amy” fake an IP for such a long period of time and only get herself revealed after a few years to make Shannon look bad? How could she have known someone would track the IP? Basically, “Amy” would not only have to be a really good hacker, but a really timely and manipulative one too.
Yep this hacker nonsense is just incredulous on every level. Even nation-state hackers often slip-up their OpSec at some point over that long of a period, and there's no goddamned way she's that good even if she *could* pull it off (which we both know is almost impossible to do _once_ let alone 300 times).
She did Hopeless Peaches DIRTY! And a lot of youtubers went against her with no evidence. Just rumors all credits from 3 people who lied about her all three have allegations rn too
@@MamaMidnight98 Yep, she absolutely thrived off doing that twisted nonsense. Shannon & her partner need to go to prison asap, they're a danger to others.
Chrissy Teigen: *builds a career on having connections in high places, all while spreading cruel messages about her peers* CreepShow Art: Write that down, write that down!
Courtney sodden wasn't her peer, the fck u talking abt? plus nasty tweets, isn't even in the same as Shannon did. they both did bad things, just very differently
As One who is working on getting an anti-social personality (aka the informal “psychopath”) diagnosis.. This isn’t just straight psychopathy - there is narcissism tied into this. Psychopaths aren’t mutually exclusive to narcissism. Just as narcissism isn’t mutually exclusive to sociopathy. Sure, we may have difficulty with empathy. However, not all psychopaths are liars who lack a moral code. Sure, we plot and scheme - and get off in it - though, not everyone does it, in the manner to purposefully hurt others. I have no problem with social climbers - as long as it’s done with mutual integrity and respect. I don’t develop many emotional attachments and I use everyone to learn my own life lessons; though - I appreciate everyone I have connected with, on the levels I am able. Sure, I use that relationship for my own benefit. However, I purposefully look for how it could be mutually beneficial. So, for an autist psychopath, like me - I think like one; though, it’s used in a virtuous manner. I mean, what good would it do for me to do shitty things, in the end? How is that a sustainable life? Obviously, as Shannon has proved - it isn’t. Though, I’d like to say.. I’ve know men who’ve done this sort of thing out of emotional rage and jealousy - plotting and scheming to hurt someone. I don’t believe he was a psychopath. Sometimes people do bad very bad things - who don’t have a personality disorder. So, just something to, please, consider - when attempting to label people who do awful things, to others. Not everyone who may fall under that label, medically speaking - are even willing to ever to such awful things. Such awful things, to which - every person on the planet, holds the capacity to do, if ever pushed to it. 😉
@@ac-fp9lx why does anyone seek any diagnosis? To get support for it, obviously. Feeling numb to emotions and struggling to form interpersonal bonds can't be fun to deal with and I'd want support if I went through that
@@ac-fp9lx also people say this to me about seeking an autism assessment. It's to access resources designed to help you, and to finally have confirmation and an explanation for why you've always felt different from most people you know. Not knowing is tough.
As someone who had been a fan of Shannon for a while I’m flabbergasted. I’m a Junior in high school now and have been watching Shannon’s videos and following her art for as long as I’ve been on the internet. I cant believe that this person who I’ve kind of looked up to for such a long time could turn out to be such a shitty person. Seriously disappointed. I’m sending my love and prayers out to you and Emily! You guys never deserved this.
Honestly, take it as a lesson that the internet personalities - any celebrities really - are never who you think you see. Even the ones who try and be more down to earth and authentic are still performing a role. We develop these parasocial relationships where we think we know them, but we really don't.
Honestly, main reason I liked Shannon was because her personality reminded me a lot of my close friend, but even that close friend of mines didn't really like her. Then all of this came out and I just dunno what to think ...
tbf there's been a lot other stuff going on already, people had been trying to cancel her since like 2015-2016, just around 6 or 7 moths age when hopeless peaches POV on her situation got out people started to actually try and get her to apologize abt it, and became more aware, them Emily and Glare as of recently and FINALLY she's done here, she was always bad and sketchy even to her viewers I think just ppl never noticed it bc she was sorta obv manipulating her audience, I was like that too till 2016 which was when her vids got more.. controversial
It’s not even her art, she, apparently with consent, takes smaller artists work and supposedly tags them in the description or smth, but doesn’t mention them in her videos in any other way
Shannon's silence is all the confirmation i need. Emily's story is true, Glares is true, i just can't believe it. someone i watched, enjoyed, supported... completely vile.
I feel ya, I was watching her for awhile until recently I was avoiding her videos because her energy seemed...off but I didn't have any real reasoning as to why. she's very good at manipulation, it's scary. I'm glad lolcow exposed her before she reached more sucess. People like that deserve the fortune she's had
Im not surprised by this. She came off as an overly preachy folk. And after seeing dramas in the past I find people like that always have some awful secret. And i don't know why but after bit something just told me "Shes going to get exposed for something later on."
@@Bee-gc2do Same! I used to watch her pretty consistently but stopped in recent months. I couldn't really figure out why, but something felt off to me too.
@@lvl10cooking I think it’s because of a few things :) 1. it’s basically making you see her as fully rounded person, this isn’t just ‘creepshow art’ who has done all these terrible things and come close to absolutely ruining someones life, this is a girl who has a family, a childhood, a full life - even though none of that negates horrible actions done in adulthood, it can evoke empathy in some people and make it hard for you to just see her as a horrible, manipulative creator 2. Children represent innocence, if you look at pictures of (just for an example) killers as children, you’ll find it hard to see how they could grow into a person that could commit such terrible, depraved acts. If when you go into Shannon’s profile, ready to unfollow or write a message about how terrible you think she is, if you’re met with a child version of herself before you do so, you may start double-thinking and maybe not actually going ahead with what you planned to do Basically, She’s manipulating you through the last Avenue she has - the fact that she’s ‘just a young girl’ -, and probably someone most of you used to like and empathise with, in order to try and escape the inevitable backfire. I really don’t think it’s working at all though, like nice try but, I think she’s finally going to have consequences for her terrorising actions
Everybody I have spoken to has said the same thing about you Giulia...that you're such a genuinely kind person and you didn't deserve this at all. You have a lot of support and people who care about you. Losing a friendship in this way is very hard and I hope you're able to heal and process this asap💜
Once no one believed her hijacked IP address…. What more could she say? “ wasn’t herself, mental illness…..”?? . But this is really deep, pathetic, serious issues dealing w so many people. Scary!!
She’s probably being advised by legal counsel to stay quiet. RUclips drama is one thing, but she allegedly stalked and harassed Emily Artful for a decade. (Saying allegedly for legal reasons. Emily’s video has quite a bit of proof in it.)
This makes Creep an even bigger Creep. I feel bad for everyone who is caught the wake of her being a trash human. Like did she really think noone would ever find out?!?
She did...I got into it with her over a year ago because she's a trash person and pretty much everyone took her side and she thought that would happen forever and for a while it did everyone took her side on everything for years
I truly believe she's a sociopath. She can't hold herself back from hurting others it just brings her so much happiness. She went out of her way to pretend to be people's friends and be best friends with these people for years while also harassing and slandering them on line for years. She gets off on hurting other people. She can't control herself it just brings her so much joy and pleasure to see others suffering. I truly believe she's a sociopath and that she didn't care if she ever got caught or not. She probably got arrogant enough at one point to believe she was untouchable but in the end she just wanted to see others suffer too much to not take the risk. I am normally very against cancel culture but I think we all have more than enough evidence in this case to know for sure this person is a terrible person and does not deserve the career they've been given. Shannon can go back to living in her car. I always wondered why her family and friends didn't help her when she was homeless and now I know. She's such a sociopath her own family doesn't even want her around.
Just knowing what she did to Emily Artful, and her supposed “friends”. It’s safe to say she’s trash 🤡 Imagine stalking someone for almost a decade because they dated your ex before you.
@@PumaArg So Emily was with an abusive ex and when they finally ended it, Shannon ended up dating her ex. Emily was pretty sure he was cheating with Shannon already but had no proof of it. It’s a lot here but they hacked her fb, threatened to send her nudes (even her underage ones), and stalked her for over 8 years. Threatened her and her family, called her a bunch of names under socket accounts, etc. There’s so much more and that’s a brief summary so oof
@@PumaArg Creepshow has been silently seething for 12 years because her boyfriend (people say they aren't really married but I have no idea) is still obsessed with Emily Artful. Creepshow's entire RUclips channel and identity seems to be modelled after Emily. It seems to be the reason she even created her channel was to mess with Emily, as they'd been following her around and getting her fired from everywhere.
How much time do they have on their hands to spend so much trying to destroy someone & harass them. This is insane. They are going to kill someone someday.
@@PumaArg and then on top of that, creepshow came out talking about someone named amy stalking her, describing and using the experience for herself. Like as if she was pretending or fantasising that she was emily 🙄 she even talked n bitched about emily and spread lies like she tried to kill her own child or something. Just ridiculous things. she also befriended emily in such weird ways and was super nice to her. I think the emily experience is the CORE of this whole thing. She seems unhealthily obsessed with emily either in hate or in love, or both, she's gotten her fired from jobs before and she's made her life hell. Emily has wasted so much money on private investigators, therapy and all around its just.. It's too much. Also, i think the SA part is mentioned only a couple of times. Not in long detail at least i can check back to reconfirm that. And perhaps if you'd like, i can give you markers where to skip. Or someone else could help me with that because its 2 hours long. Or if you'd like, reply back if you want to know what it is, in a very brief sentence, to determine if you'd want to still watch the video or not. If not that's okay :))) whatever keeps u comfortable. I might watch the condensed video too (to sent my boyfriend lol) so i can see if its mentioned less there or not idk.
I don't get how a person like Shannon who draws disproportionate and messy art has the Audacity to tell some one, like Emily with god like skills, that her art is pathetic.
Just imagine the sheer dumpster fire that CreepShow Art and Gabbie Hanna could have ignited had they formed an alliance of sorts years ago. However, fortunately for everyone, their shared trait of jealousy of others who are succeeding would eventually get in the way and lead them to stab each other’s backs.
even when your IP changes your browser cookies don't, unless you erase them regularly. any website that stores cookies has a unique profile on you that documents every time you've been there, what your browser and IP was when you visited, and what device you used. this is what allows websites to remember that you've logged in before so that you don't have to log in again, and tailor recommendations and ads to you. the lolcow admins used this cookie information to immediately debunk her claim that her IP was spoofed, because they had her history going back YEARS, across multiple devices.
I agree, for me relationships ending is inevitable because I only want to be with one person in the long run (I'm not sure how this might be different if I wanted an open relationship), but friendships never HAVE to come to an end, so it just hurts so much more when it happens
Honestly whenever she says stuff like “I love my friends and would do ANYTHING for them, you guys know that! Anyway (shouts out some creator really sicky-sweetly)” it has the same energy as Shane Dawson saying “I’m such an eMpAtH”
Vulnerable narcissistic behavior has its roots in the false belief that everyone cares about their problems and are willing to drop everything they're doing to "help" them. Also, that people will believe what they say at face value. When these lofty expectations are shattered, they might act out even worse. I hope that isn't the case here.
10:29 I relate to that strange feeling of confusion when a “friend” does something like this.. The roses were sent so she could maintain your perception of her as a “caring friend” and also simultaneously try to make you doubt the evidence. She’s fake, manipulative, and insecure.
After everything that has come out about her and Emily, it’s clear to me that she invented the “Amy” character and story so that if she ever got backed into a corner she could “come out” and name Emily as “her stalker”. I’m so glad Emily beat her to the punch and told her story before that could happen.
I think she invented the story so she could discredit Emily\make it look like Emily copied her story if Emily decided to publicly talk about being stalked.
I'm so sorry, that this happened to you, it's very hard to go through these realizations about 'friends'. In your case even multiple times.. Happy that you are speaking out on the issue instead of staying silent.
Hey Giulia, don't feel bad or naive for believing someone you felt was close to you and wanting to have a geniuine connection with them (in both cases). Just because the world is cold doesn't mean we have to be cold as well. You're a good person and a great friend who didn't deserve this. Take care x
I hate this because how will you be able to trust another new “friend” ever again? You fight enough with your personal struggles as it is. I’m soo sorry babe.
im noticing a pattern in Shannon taking advantage of friends who clearly struggle with personal issues and befriending them or getting connected through someone else to attack them
Facts, we worry about not finding "the one" but it's the friendships that hurt the most as they know you more than anyone. Friendships run deeper than relationships for sure.
This really depresses me. I remember going on youtube years ago and people were doing fun collabs and their audiences were smaller so we really felt like a small family. Now a bunch of big youtubers turning out to be awful i think hurt not only the direct victims, but us the subscribers. So many youtubers i used to watch regurlarly just turned out to be so disgusting and it really affected me. I wonder, what would be of this new generation where their fave creators will desappoint them over and over...? Without the authorities giving victims justice. This is so sad.
It's just awful. I've had a similar experience with a friend but not on a public platform. But it is really so hard to trust new people again. I can't imagine how RTG feels.
I warned so many people about this girl and no one listened. I originally knew Shannon was a bad person just from the way she made videos and then I had a personal bad experience with her about a year and a half ago. I'm just glad people finally know and she isn't manipulating people anymore
That’s so good to see. So many comments saying:”I knew she was a bad person from day one!” Okay why didn’t you warn anyone??? 😭 thank *you* for trying, I’m glad her deceitful ways caught up with her
@@SanjaSleipnir Because they enjoy watching her. I saw so many fans of her and verified channels apologizing to her victims saying they're sorry for judging them, talking shlt on them, that they just believed Shannon. That's how manipulative and convincing she is.
@@helloworld2784 yea you’re completely right on that. It’s scary how good she was at mimicking things like empathy, compassion and such. People knew something was off but still were lured in by her spiel. Scary person
@@SanjaSleipnir Not so many people spoke up because they were scared of her big audience. Remember Hopeless Peaches drama happened? So many small creators talked about Shannon's lies but it never had any impact on her career. It's sad that THIS much had to happen to finally get her cancelled
Absolutely. I know when I was younger and my self esteem was in Hades I spent a lot of time on forums like that too...never promoted myself or talked crap about my friends there though! She really does need help
@@ajaku the fact that she was willing to stalk and harass Emily out of jealousy is so pathetic it's almost funny. Oh and did i mention she's in possession of cp. And she also goes out of her way to protect her rap1st husband so yeah pretty shitty eh
@@djmarz7123 Emily Artful posted a 2h long video talking about her stalker and showing receipts - it is allegedly about Shannon's husband and Shannon herself
I mean she's on another level of self hate I struggle with self esteem and depression and I know so many other people inside the same boat and we ain't like that she must have gone a long ass time without help for her behavior to become so deteriorated and progress soooooo far
I hate to be that guy but: there’s always a bright side. Here, you no longer have a horrible, fake, toxic person in your life. Keep your head up!! And she’ll eventually get what’s coming for her :)
One of my best friends in high school was diagnosed with psychopathy. She was extremely charismatic, popular, and one of the funniest people i had ever met-of course along with this she was incredibly malicious and conniving. The funny thing is that Shannon always skeeved me out because she reminded me SO much of this friend, all the way down to her caddy sense of humor, quippy observations about pop culture, even the way she talked … figures that Shannon reminded me of a psychopath, huh? :/
I was friends with a covert narcissist for nearly ten years. The betrayal that came with our eventual parting still effects me and some days are worse then others. Having a friend hurt you is so painful. You let them into be a part of your life and it's taken for granted. Friendship break ups are not talked about enough. They're just as painful and hard as a romantic breakup. You feel foolish and dumb for letting someone take advantage of your heart and spend days thinking "Was any of it true? Was it all just manipulation?". You have momentos and gifts around the house that are tainted now because now you see it as them buying your friendship. It sucks. Big time. My heart goes out to you. Trust me, life is better without liars in it.
@Benjamin Sharpie A narc who wants to get help and change is fine but for the love of god don’t invalidate other peoples feelings or experiences because you claim to have a higher understanding of the disorder. You have no idea. Sincerely, someone who was abused by a narcissistic father for 18+ years of my life.
You're abosolutely right, and I second that friendship break ups need to be addressed more. It hits hard when they betray you out of nowhere, or simply throw you away as if you're disposable garbage, it's especially worse imo if either party was on relatively good terms.
@@saram5964 Yeah, that's what they were saying, I think. Narcissism doesn't necessarily mean you're abusive (some narcissistic people don't harm anyone), but narcissism can definitely be a reason why you're abusive, and when that's the case, my empathy stops.
Not your fault. I originally thought CSA was just a little bit catty, but her being a Keemstar fan and being super toxic is why I believe you and Emily.
@@Copperkaiju keemstar is the guy that runs the "DramaAlert" channel. In my opinion, his videos are good because it informs you of any drama going off in the community. However, he's not a good person. He's said racist things, bullied kids on games, falsely accused an old man of being a convicted p*do (he got the wrong person) causing the old man to get nasty messages and a lot of distress. These are just a few examples of the messed up things keem has done.
People never cease to amaze me I swear. Had similar situations with “friends” in my past. Actually was shot by someone I considered my best friend for years, and also sent to prison by someone I was very close friends with (he was also my cousin). So I just put up a wall years ago and I refuse to get close to anyone. I stick to myself, changed my life. I go to work everyday, come home and either watch tv or get on the internet. Zero social life and I’m completely fine with that honestly. I have like work friends, I may go grab a beer with them once or twice a year ya know? But they don’t really know me. They know absolutely nothing about my past. It’s kind of a running joke at work, a coupe of them refer to me as Mysterio in jest cuz I don’t talk about my life with them. I remove myself from the convo when people start talking about their personal life. It’s not the same I know, but I felt like I could understand when listening to you talk about this Creepshow chick. Hope everything works out for ya. Keep your head up…
I hope you can find it in you to let people in again someday. I totally relate to shutting people out due to past pain and trauma, but eventually it gets old. To each their own though, if you're happy that's all that matters.
@@Nakia11798 I may have worded that a little loosely. He testified against me in the case that sent me up for three years at 18 years old. I was guilty as a mofo, but he turned states evidence against me to avoid a 6 month sentence when I was originally facing 56 years. About half of the case they presented was utter nonsense and they knew it. So when plea bargaining started, we got all the way down to 3 years flat and I took and ran with it. I was the happiest mofo in the penitentiary I swear. Goin from facing 56 years to serving 3 flat, I got quite lucky there.
@@clorby22 Jokes aside I don't want so see Shannon ever again in this platform. After I watched Emily Artful's video my blood fucking boiled. What she did was crime and Emily could ended up hurting herself due to Shannon's and her psycho husbands behavior.
“Be aware, Shannon has been deleting my comments about the following: she recently deleted the videos “I’m A Narcissist” “My Ex Boyfriend Found My Channel” “RuPaul Stole My Idea”. I commented that the reason she’s deleted those videos, is because in them she mentioned Amy The Stalker, and lies about the nonexistent Amy in those videos, contradict her current drivel on the community tab. BE WARNED. The fact that she deleted my comments about this makes me think she’s busy concocting the next chapter of this nonsense. Please don’t be manipulated. Thanks for reading x” credits to ND spread the word yall
I just watched the rupaul stole my idea video and she dosen't mention amy, or anyone else. She does however mention a lot of things about emily indirectly in the I'm a narcissist video. Not gonna bother with the other one.
I used to defend Shannon when people were saying she “love bombed” you and I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but now I completely take that back. I see it now and I’m sorry you went through such a toxic (and public) friendship with her. She was so so fake online it’s actually disgusting :(
@@franciscariveramartinez love bombing is basically when you overwhelm people with acts of love or appreciation in order to hide your true intentions, often publicly. A lot of manipulators and abusers use this tactic to keep their target close to them and to remove doubt in the victim's mind that they're being manipulated or abused and to make other people believe that they're a good person. It's unfortunately common and also unfortunately works fairly well on the victim :(
@@franciscariveramartinez “Love bombing is an attempt to influence a person by demonstrations of attention and affection. It happens when someone overwhelms the victim with loving words or physical actions with manipulative behaviours.[1] It can be used in different ways and for either positive or negative purposes.[2] Psychologists have identified love bombing as a possible part of a cycle of abuse and have warned against it.” Copy and pasted from Wikipedia but it describes it well
What fucks me up is that a fully grown woman acts like this. She must feel really dissatisfied with herself to do this so consistently and to multiple people. Take care, RTG, and take all the time you need to heal and recover. We love you.
@@Nakia11798 Oh trust and believe there's more people like this out there. Compulsive liars, backstabbers, narcissists, etc. I've had my experience with one who'd I've exposed yet she knew how to manipulate people so I'd be the bad guy. It's mentally exhausting. I'm glad she's out of my life but it stays with you and makes you question every person you come into contact with - paranoia.
In regards to her being "dissatisfied with herself," I'm really wondering how her relationship with Anthony plays a part in all of this. And as someone who never really watched her videos before, did she ever bring up her relationship before? If not, I find that very weird
One thing I grew up thinking that adults are above all the petty drama and once I reach adulthood life would be more sane. The biggest misconception I've ever had. Creepshows age has nothing to do with her maturity unfortunately, she was probably always like this since a child.
Why do so many creators fuck up in such a bad way, like really fucking bad, how is it so hard for them to be a basic human being, i also wish you the best Giulia, this is just bad damn
@@RJ-sd6uc ikr, when that’s all you talk about you’re going to gain those kind of fans and subscribers. It would make sense that she was cancelled this bad, but she honestly had it coming.
@@veiiee you know what funny most of this commentary/drama channel always portrayed themself as a good person and the gate keeper who is good or bad these ppl that she talks about need to do better , need to apologies, take accountability, behaviour is not acceptable, should not have a platforms and so on. She just did all the above when making her video Art+Drama.. She should focus on Creating Art but instead she go and Create Fake Acc 😂
Her sending you roses before everything hit the fan is called "love bombing" and is a common manipulation tactic to put their victim in a position where they'd feel like they have to agree or go along with them Edit: I'd like to clarify that "love bombing" is a repeated behavior to manipulate someone. This one instance of Shannon giving Glare flowers is not exactly love bombing; however, given Shannon's behavior towards people like Omnia and Emily, and how she love bombed them to back them into a place where they felt like they had to go along with Shannon and felt guilty if they didn't, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't the only instance that Shannon has done something like this to Glare. If they were as close as implied in the video, any kind gestures could have been brushed off as "friendship" rather than manipulation. The thing about love bombing is that it doesn't always immediately precede shit hitting the fan. My narcissistic mother has love bombed me all my life, taking me on extravagant vacations or buying me expensive things out of the blue and then using her "kindness" against me in a disagreement. She still holds vacations we took 15 years ago- when I was an elementary student- over my head.
Not necessarily lol. A one time thing isnt love bombing, a pattern would be. Stop using terms of abuse so easily because it makes it harder for people to recognize actual abuse.
@@oh-6613 it's a pattern with Creepshow Art to love bomb people. She did it with Omnia and Emily Artful. It's not using a term of abuse so easily. It's appropriately using a term of abuse when an abuser has repeatedly displayed this behavior. Like? Do your research before coming at people?
@@oh-6613 hi I survived different forms of abuse personally, perhaps you have too? I personally feel this is a correct usage because Shannon had set a precedent in doing this stuff with others as well and because the context she was trying to use that in. You can disagree but that doesn't mean it's objectively going to hurt abuse survivors perhaps your a survivor yourself, as I said, but you can't speak for everyone, thank you for caring about the rest of us but we may have different opinions from you.
I don't think what she did was love bombing. Manipulative yes but not the same as omnia. With omnia she would shower her with compliments and tell her often how she is "her idol" or "the best blah blah blah". Giving flowers isn't really love bombing... I would agree if she did more before/after that i.e strong&often compliments, nice gestures, more gifts.
I feel like we all had a friend like this at one point in our lives. Some people can lie into your face, play the victim and nice person so well... you trust them. It hurts.
also, for anyone in these comments coming at former viewers/friends of CSA for not seeing this coming - remember how long Shane Dawson was on this platform virtually unchecked. how long Gabbie Hanna kept her career/collaborations by having her own corner of the platform. bad people aren't bad all the time, and what's obvious to you is not obvious to the people who connected with the good. we've all made poor judgement on someone's character before. it's what people say now they know that counts.
@@LxstHxlo CSA also went beyond being shady to be fair, with the whole Emily situation. but I absolutely see your point - wasn't trying to downplay Shane's behaviour at all
Emily’s video was shocking, and I’m honestly pretty worried for Shannon now. Hearing about Shannon’s husband’s involvement makes this all so much weirder and scarier.
You’re so incredibly brave and powerful speaking on this. Make no mistake: This is a significant trauma, it’s demoralizing and heartbreaking to go through something like this not once, but TWICE. Please take care of yourself and your mental health. You’re a good person! It takes a lot of kindness and strength to reach out to Shannon to check on her even after what she did! You and nobody else in the friend group deserves this, at all.
@@PajamaManor me, myself, personally; I don’t trust Shannon at all anymore. Not after all that’s come out and after watching Emily Artful’s video and seeing how low Shannon’s behavior has been. I am throughly disgusted by Shannon and am embarrassed for her and that I was ever a fan of her. I was just saying that Guilia (sp?) has the emotional strength and kindness of a flipping *Saint* to check in on Shannon even after their friendship is over and after all Shannon did. Guilia (again, sp?) is truly a better person than I’d be in this situation
No idea why this showed up on my feed or why i clicked on it or who these people are. But the way she handled this is so mature and such an honest way of handling a situation. No jumping to conclusions, giving people the benefit of the doubt, but not ignoring the evidence she was confronted with. Still caring for her friends health even when she knew she had most likely been betrayed by her...its just great to see how she handled this, and it's unfortunate she had to encounter that kind of person
@@betssylopez5895 apparently in addition to shit talking ppl and communities, she & her partner obsessively stalked another content creator for over 10 years. Some really disturbing ways of harassing & threatening them
hey no need to victim blame here, she was confused and processing being betrayed by a friend. she likely didn't know anything about shannon stalking people otherwise she wouldn't have been soft with her.
I think it’s so unfair that people demand instant responses and reactions of people when their friends are exposed for being harmful. As humans, we need time to process our complex emotions and I think we should all try to be more patient with one another instead of demanding people speak out immediately or writing them off as enablers or complicit. I hope you’re taking care of yourself above all else 💗
I completly agree. It makes me feel ill knowing that some people can just disregard people's mental health who have been directly effected by this to fuel their own narrative as soon as they want it. Give people the time they need. I hope you can heal from this Giulia.
Instant responses to shit like this causes more grief than its worth. Taking the time to process, and understand the situation and how it affects you is so important to having a healthy response.
Honestly it didn’t even occur to me your silence was compliance/avoidance/etc. I was concerned your mental health had taken a heavy hit because of this so I’m glad to see you’re (relatively) okay. She fooled a lot of people and has done a lot of damage. I hope you are getting support irl and we all send you our love and support as well 💜
Thank god that people finally found out what kind of person she is. I was annoyed by her videos popping up in my recommendation from the start. Ugh. I made the mistake more than once to click on one of her videos because the title was interesting. Just to find out that she just rambles without breathing, about unimportant bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic of the video. (usually petty drama that she got herself into). I don't have the time or energy to listen to all of this and pay attention to when she will finally start talking about the topic in the title. Her shit personality just shined through when she talked and I always just had that feeling that she is insufferable but couldn't put my finger on why she's giving off this vibe. Now I know why. Because she is.
The fact that you weren’t shit talking and dogging her this whole video just shows how much better you are than her! Take that high road sis! the view is better up there anyway!
The irony is, awhile back, I tried offering some VALID, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of Shannon and almost instantly, Ashlee Lillie responded to me with a rude comment talking about how I was 'bashing,' Shannon. Nah, girl, you're blind.
All the people demanding a response lost sight of the fact that her friends were victims too. Unless you’ve been through it, it’s impossible to empathize with how psychologically traumatic the act of being betrayed by someone you’ve invested a lot of trust in truly is. I’m so sorry you are experiencing that due to this situation. It’s completely understandable that you still have compassion for Shannon and I hate that you feel the need to defend that bc people lack the life experience necessary to understand how cruel it is to expect immediate condemnation or suffer guilt by association. It doesn’t make sense that so much energy would be put into a facade for the sake of self-promotion and grappling with the reality of her false persona doesn’t negate that the friendship was genuine for you. You should be permitted the space to grieve that loss and to wish better for Shannon bc she clearly needs help. On behalf of the audience that understands that… I want to apologize for any pressure you felt from those who don’t. Wishing you peace, love, and support as you process everything and begin to heal. 💞
@@JaseekaRawr took the words out of my mouth. The trolls/insensitive people on this site are usually pretty young. I know because when I actually throw an educated argument back to their trolling they just say "I don't need this. Logging off"
Co-signing this! She owes no one any explanation and should heal through this trauma however she wants and as long as it takes. I guess some people aren’t able to be respectful and need the affected parties to SpIlL tHe TeA 🤦♀️
You genuinely sound heartbroken. It's the only word I could think of when you were describing how you felt. I am so sorry you had to go through something as horrible as this, especially publicly.
You’re one of the kindest human beings on YT. It’s heartbreaking that there are malevolent people out there who will take advantage of that. Take care of yourself.
I was a huge fan of yours before she was even on the scene, you were the first person I thought of after Emily though, because you had met in person and become personal friends. Hope you're okay🖤🖤
I am so sorry you went through this. And multiple time too 😔 My ex partner lied throughout our two year relationship about a dead ex partner... And when she felt me getting close to the truth she put up a fake gravestone in the cemetery in a bid to get me to believe it... I went back there without her one day... And it had gone. I helped her heal from something that never happened... I was shown this girks jewellery, house, where they went to school, told about a fundraiser in her name, told about how she died etc etc... She was very much a part of our relationship... And I tried so hard to help my partner heal... Abd it was all fake. This was a year ago. It absolutely damages you to the core. So pleaseput yourself first, get whatever help you need, vent about it and keep your circle small. Sending you peace, love and healing ✌️
I'm an old lady now but I went through something like this in my,late twenties. When your in a situation where things start getting crazy it's because someone crazy is around you. People like Shannon make accusations and call names is them telling on themselves. Narcissists-everything they say they are talking about themselves and everything they say about other people is projection, them still talking about themselves. Everything she accused you of she did and every name she called you is how she feels about herself. She is an admitted narcissist but she seems to have made a big deal about how hard her life is so that would be a vulnerable or covert narcissist. So every hardship she has talked about is what she is trying to do to everyone around her. It's shocking to believe someone could be this calculating and it would stretch over this many people but they are masters of manipulation. There are whole forums on RUclips about this disorder. Dr Ramani is a good one.
I'm just so disappointed she turned out this way, you were manipulated along with so many people and there was really so many people she hurt and I just don't understand why Shannon did all of this. As a former viewer of Creepshow Art, it's really just so confusing to me why she'd keep up a front while leading a path of destruction when she thinks she's completely anonymous. Edit: I see so many people in the reply section trying to blame me and other people who were past viewers for falling for her antics. Keep in mind a few things, I was young and very impressionable when I started watching her content and I didn't know what behaviour to expect from commentary channels and even if the tone was too off putting like even when she was aggressive, I wrote it off as her just being angry at whatever horrible person she was talking about. I didn't know how to read people and it was never obvious to me when a tone was bad or good due to my inability to read situations. I only realized something in her tone was wrong when I started watching people like D'angelo Wallace and Kurtis Conner who were never aggressive in their content. I didn't see the red flags until much later, I stopped watching her videos about three months ago because I just couldn't stand her and that was around the time I started looking for podcasts instead. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by all these people feeling betrayed but you have to remember that she manipulated an entire audience and the people closest to her - we're all just victims in this scenario and the only person to blame is Shannon.
Because of those last 5 words you typed, she thinks she is completely anonymous. She is a coward & thought that even if she was caught in lies that she would still be protected by the anonymity. It's honestly disgusting to see how many people hide behind a screen & think its okay to cause such chaos because of it freely.
Turned out this way? She's ALWAYS been like this. I can't believe she managed to fool a lot of people, can't you guys see how much of a horrible person she is from the getgo?
@@xx-gb5rt i’d been a viewer of hers for a while, and i thought she seemed really genuine and like she cared about the people around her. sometimes people lie, and not everyone will be able to tell. and that sucks.
@@xx-gb5rt I don't think it's your intention but don't shame people for not finding out sooner. No, we weren't able to tell from the get go. Her whole audience wasn't able to tell. Her friends weren't able to tell. She manipulated all of us
@@xx-gb5rt I honestly can't, I'm confused 😕 and I don't think the way you're saying it helps in any way. It's not out fault the fact that we can't understand someone's mind.
Your hair is just..... magical. You're adorbs. Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll say this: Having a friend that ends up not being who you thought they were, is like grieving the death/loss of someone you knew. I know this is a morbid comparison, but it's true. So with that being said.... Sorry for your loss. 🦄 Stay Magical
I agree with you wholeheartedly AZ. I lost (never really had now that I look back) someone who I thought was my friend of over 30 years. It is like a death, sometimes burying that part of your life is healing and beautiful. As odd as that sounds, I believe it to be true also. I also agree that RTG is absolutely beautiful, stay strong and continue to love yourself young lady. All the best
This happened in my friend group a few years ago - the person in question lied about speaking multiple languages, being a victim (of SA, of Gamergate, you name it) and about having MS. Behind closed doors she was abusive, extorted tens of thousands of dollars, and never had a job. The fallout was so so awful. I hope that you are able to find the space to recontextualize your memories of her and to heal from the hurt she caused to you and to others 🥺
Been subscribed for a long while - I was there when you went live. It was so hard to see, knowing you were in such immense pain and clearly emotionally traumatized, yet also knowing there was probably nothing I as a mere subscriber could say to comfort you. Please just know, all these years later, I was there and I cried with you. I’m sorry for this entire situation as well. It is almost too twisted to be real, but as we grow older reality does indeed become stranger than fiction. Please, be good to yourself. You are valuable. You are cherished.
I'm shocked to find out just how many people she has affected. Even you aren't safe. I'm so sorry that this happened to you. All of this honestly hits me hard because I once had a friend/ex-gf who turned out to be extremely hurtful and toxic. After her abuse towards me, I learned of all the abuse she has done to everyone else them I later learned that she talks shit about me behind my back during our relationship. We've tried to reason with her but she just lashed out against us with her clique then pushed us away painting us as the villains. She's sadly still out there doing her thing, because well there's only so much a group of victims can do with a person like her, which is also why I'm glad that you are getting your justice in the form of the internet community.
This comment and the video is hitting me hard too because yesterday i got broken up with. I was recently dating a guy who seemed so lovely and sweet, and we were long distance. So this past weekend i drove up to his state and he turned into this abusive, controlling psycho. It was out of nowhere and im so shaken up by it. I really dont understand what happened. I was so kind to him and he never showed any signs that he was so violent and aggressive. He broke up with me yesterday and everyone is saying that i dodged a bullet, but it still hurts. I had a very painful breakup last year, and i was thinking that i could finally have hope again that i could be with someone nice. Nope. Apparently not. 🤷♀️ Sorry, i just really needed to vent this.
@@ashleysartattack5600 I'm so sorry to hear that. Your story is actually the same as mine she too was really kind I too thought that she was my big break. It's a very frightening and honestly traumatizing experience. I can't tell what the case for the guy is since I don't even know him but that's how it usually goes for those types of people, they prey on those who really care and manipulate them to care for them. While we give it all they're actually just using us. I wish you all the best in life and I hope that you will be able to recover from this in a healthy way. I had the misfortune of losing my way in life because of the trauma and I wish others wouldn't through the same mistake.
@@Lauren-pt3gz friendship betrayal is sometimes worse than relationships betrayal itself. Coz Friendship is like a handpicked family. There’s more trust and a safety net is instilled in friendship since we’re more likely to lose a boyfriend/girlfriend over a trusted best friend. I cannot imagine the trauma Emily had to go thru. With a toxic abusive ex+manipulative abusive friend. If I were in her shoes it’d take a while for me to recover from such a severe psychological abuse
@@sakasusuk yeah, your friends are who you talk to if your SO turns out to be an asshole and you need support. you aren't necessarily going to get the same support from your SO (even if you currently have a relatively decent one which a lot of people don't) if your bff or close friend betrays you/is an asshole.
@@elizabethevenson6110 FACTS!! Even in divorce cases, who do you run to after ur spouse abuse/cheat? Friends. They’re your confidants, emotional support, and whom have been with since your younger self days. They sometimes know you better than your families. My break up with my ex was wayyy less hurtful in comparison to when I lost my ex best friend of 10 years coz she betrayed my trust. The pain level was a whole different level and it took me a full year to heal
This isn’t a pissing contest, but my lifelong BFF from age 4- when we were in our early 20s, her vehicle was vandalized and broken into whilst she was in the gym working out. The vandal and thief stole her bank card, some petty cash, and left one of her windows broken. That happened on a Thursday. She called me that evening after going to the police and she was so upset and rattled. I felt so terrible for her and again, this was my very best friend since we were practically babies. I didn’t hear from her for a few days, but we worked at the same club and I came into work on a Sunday night. I saw her. She saw me and the second she looked at me with a look on her face like I had never seen in my life, I felt my heart sink. I didn’t know what was wrong, but I knew something was very wrong, just in a moment, that is how much I loved her and could feel her energy. She refused to speak to me. I spent that entire night following her around the club, begging her to speak to me, to explain what was wrong. I was so devastated. I called her then boyfriend and he told me that she was upset because she believed I was the one who broke into her vehicle and stole from her. She believed that of me! I was shocked, sickened, and stupefied. For weeks, I tried to contact her. I left voicemails begging her to have a conversation with me. I asked her to have the police come arrest me and take me in for questioning. I was so hurt that she would ever think that I would do that to anyone, let alone her. There wasn’t a friend I had ever loved so much. Never has been a friend I supported so much. Never will be another friend that I will love like that. She broke something in me. She never spoke to me, and we never had a conversation. It was BAM! No contact. Also, she told all of our mutual friends and worst of all, her parents and other family that had loved me like family since the day we met in 1982. She told everyone that I’d done this awful, criminal, horrible thing. I lost my best friend, and I lost the relationship with her family, as well. I cried over this for over 6 years. It was truly that devastating. I am a very tender hearted person, and that will never change, but that experience and others since have made me so much stronger, more resilient, and now, when a friend does something that is hurtful and I’ve been betrayed, I just cut my loses and keep it moving. It’s self preservation. I’m leaving out details, as it is still painful and exhausting to explain this. But yeah. People suck. I much prefer the company of animals.
I come back to various videos about Shannon from time to time, and it still feels strange each time I do. I’d subscribed to her channel before a lot of those self serving “I’m a ride or die friend” or “I will always hold myself accountable” videos came to be…basically before she’d become a fairly well known creator. I can’t say that I loved her content. I can’t even say that I agreed with much of her statements. She just had an interesting approach to how she “scripted” (or more likely, improvised) the dialogue within her videos. But, it became harder and harder to continue watching/listening to her videos. Mainly, it was due to how she seemed to be either 1) becoming the person she adamantly claimed she wasn’t, or 2) she was allowing the mask she wore to slip and who she really was all along was visible. And, to be honest, neither of the two were very attractive. I can’t say that “Ah-ha! I KNEW there was something wrong with this woman!” because that’s not really the truth. Her content just started to feel disingenuous She would claim to dislike people saying or doing certain things, and then all of the sudden she’s partaking in those very things herself. She stood there for all the world to see yelling from atop the precariously unstable pedestal she’d built for herself that this kettle or that kettle was black…and all the while she was the godd@mn pot. The only thing I can say for certain about how I felt was that it was uncomfortable for me to continue “supporting” her by watching her content. So, I backed away from her content until I just couldn’t even stand seeing thumbnails of her videos. I unsubbed and never went back. It’s just surreal to know that I, along with SO VERY MANY others, had unknowingly watched this creator braid a rope, knot it carefully and almost lovingly, and then savagely hang her reputation and the friendships she’d made until the kicking finally stopped. I don’t know that I’ve ever personally seen anyone hoist themselves by their own petard in such a brutal fashion prior to this.
The roses were a: "I'm such a nice person and I'm your friend" She knew what was coming. I'll have to be honest her lovebombing of you in particular Giulia was what made me stop watching her. A good friend can be a good friend without getting the whole internet involved
I can’t believe that something that horrible and *that specific* happened to you twice. I’m at a loss of words. What each of these people, individually did to you was NOT OKAY. It was cruel, immoral and disgusting and you did not deserve these things happening to you. Thank you for making a video and sorry that you were forced to make one, even though you were not ready to make a statement yet.
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I can’t possibly express how thankful I am for all the support. Thank you all, each one of you.
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Videos to check if you’re confused or want the receipts/see the posts here are some videos that’ve been posted:
Emily Artful: ruclips.net/video/Y3xHC4GwNrQ/видео.html
Truth Sleuth: ruclips.net/video/EPcI83wyXKg/видео.html
Omnia: ruclips.net/video/StdKVshmhl4/видео.html
Omnia (part 2): ruclips.net/video/XTY161p5M_E/видео.html
Hopeless Peaches: ruclips.net/video/2GykKDYkzVQ/видео.html
Take care of yourself!
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We love you! Take care
We’re here for you! If you need a break from RUclips, we will all understand and support you x
Sending love ❤️
I’m so sorry. Sending you love. 💛
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Can you guys become best friends, bonding over having trash friends?
I love seeing all these RUclipsrs supporting through this tough situation 🖤
Hi Jessi, you're amazing ❤️ sending you lots of love as well
Jessi, I hope you're hanging in there! I'm so happy for you about the 🌈 baby and I hope you realize how much happiness you deserve. You truly seem like one of the good ones (youtubers lol), never stop being you 💖
I remember some of her stories being about how she was a compulsive liar... guess she still struggles with that 😳
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Oh hi Shgurr :3
I really liked her content so when things started coming out about her I didn't want to believe it. Then all this happens and there's so much evidence against her that I feel stupid for denying it the first time
I was only casual viewer of her and imma have to second a 😳
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“I believed her because she was my friend” 1. Nothing wrong with that as long as you acknowledge the truth when presented with evidence. People should be loyal to their friends. 2. She also high key manipulated you into believing her. You made a mistake of judgement that you corrected. Don’t feel guilty for someone else being awful.
If I could love this comment I would. Yes. This is very important for her to realize!
@@christinecannibal844 it’s hard when people abuse you, not to beat yourself up in retrospect. I do it often like “how could I have not seen this?” “ how could I have allowed myself to manipulated like this, I’m so stupid”. But it’s not true, I’m not stupid. I’m just a person with feelings another sick person used. And it’s that sick person at fault, not me.
Most people would believe their friends.
This.
this! as long as you accept evidence and truth when it comes out, nothing wrong with changing your position. nothing wrong with initially taking your friend's side before anything else. I'm glad you're here promoting ppl to be a good friend, but not blindly loyal.
One of the most disturbing parts of this is that she sent you roses, knowing exactly what she’d done behind your back. It almost as if she gets off on it ..
people are snakes. doesn’t surprise me. especially with someone like creepshow.
That was severely twisted!
From what I gathered from the Emily video yeah she does get off on it.
Like when a bad partner cheats or beats, and then gives flowers like they make it all better. Blech.
@@laevan2053 Partially they really believe or they try to believe that this is a good behavior and they truly fix things in this way... while in reality it's just a manipulation. They even fool themselves in their own minds :ppp Watching some videos about sadistic/narcissistic personality really opens eyes.
Really sorry you went through this. This really fuckin' sucks. You're such a good person and genuine soul. This sucks.
💕💕I am loving the support going on here!! I love both of yall
I love seeing my favorite creators supporting each other. Love your work Kat!
True
Queen Kat is here. ❤️🍓
Grow up
A moment of appreciation for the admin(s) who confirmed all this. If not for them, Shannon's lies wouldn't have come to light this quickly and the situation would be 20 times worse. I hope you know that you have no commitment that is bigger than taking as many or as long of breaks as you possibly need to start healing and coming to terms.
Many props to the admins !!
this!!! thank you admins for exposing her for who she really is
Honestly the coolest admins.
They'd allegedly had their suspicions building for YEARS, but had just reached their limit of tolerating her nonsense, and one or a few of the admins on there just assembled this dossier on Shannon.
@@RedEzelt bruh yeah they exposed her, but I wouldn't thank the admins because the shit that gets posted on that website is crazy and vile. They only exposed her because she broke their own rules about self-promoting.
She lied to you, fooled you, mislead you, abused your intelligence and honestly, sending you roses is her sick way of making HERSELF feel better. I am so sorry you experienced this!
Or a way of letting her know, I know where you live.
@m@mickeysminimouses & @Ordinary Girl Trying to be Fabulous - You're both right, and I hate that. Not because you've correctly assessed the situation, but that the assessment is that someone has truly horrible character. 😰
She does the same thing to other ppl tho
I never liked Creep Show Art. She seemed too happy about canceling everyone else, even for petty stuff. She's in everyone else's business, telling everyone how to do it.
Exactly. I always had a bad feeling about her. Guess intuition is right in these cases
@@pastelcherry8446 Honestly I'm pretty good at pick up on that stuff and honestly, she slipped right past my radar.
ive allllways got bad vibes from her, just never could put my finger on it.
EXACTLY I've been saying this for years. The fact that some fools actually trusted her is hilarious like how did you not see the truth?
@@pastelcherry8446 My is correct as usual. I had classmates and other people who did these things. Nothing shocks me anymore.
This is all just so upsetting... 😥
It is, I feel bad for you guys who had to go through this. I remembered on one of your videos she commented on it being her favorites. That has to be be hard when the same person is doing all of this! I feel bad for Thumin, and all the others.
im so sorry. i know she made a video about your situation and it must hurt knowing the person who tried to help you is actually really shitty.
Yeah..
I wasn't expecting this at all honestly
The fact that she helped a black woman like you, but she's incredibly racist...
Hey Thumin, how've you been? I know all of this can be really tough but I just wanna know if you're alright
The roses were definitely a tactic to manipulate you into defending her when this all came out. Shannon is terrifying and needs serious, consistent, prolonged psychological help.
I was thinking the same thing.
Agreed.
not to defend shannon, but i don"t think so. She'd have to send this in advance, how would she even know she'd get exposed ? I think it was just a part of her acting like they're "bestieeeees
@@noko8692 It was just a coupe of days before and she may have suspected it was going to happen because people were talking about it on lolcow, she caught wind of it.
@@noko8692 it's a buffer. People like this will butter you up every now and again a bit more. Also flowers wouldn't take too long to send, maybe a few days. She probably knew people were going to start talking and sending screens to those mentioned.
Edit: not pepe, my Lord. I need to fix my autocorrect for that one. And my punctuation.
Remember that 'Storytime' where Shannon claimed that she overheard some girls talking about her at a Starbucks or something, but they ended up trashing her and laughing at how bad her channel is? Well if that was real those girls knew what was up lol
This sounds like an “and everyone clapped” story 😭😭 like her channel is NOT that big for people to just talk about her at a Starbucks???
@@miathompson4440 literally ain’t nobody at Starbucks talkin bout her channel honey you are not That big 😂
That might be a “ reversed narrative “ situation judging by her stalker story , she might be the one trash talking someone else’s channel then shift the narrative pretend to be a victim to gain sympathy.
@@Tombbistol And knowing all the shit she has done, that would a) be possible and b) be probably one of the mildest things she has done, if it happens to true 💀 This woman needs to get her head checked asap and thrown into a jail cell.
Let’s be honest, though. She made that shit up.
Sending you lots of love ❤️
Ily Roly
After watching this video it kinda sounds really sarcastic to me idk why
hi roly
Ayyyyo my nicca Roly Fingas!!!! What's poppenin' bluh?
please make and onlyfans
I have so much respect for how you handled this. Your perspective has been so helpful and I am so sorry you are going through this. It's a shocking situation.
Love you Emily
Hi Emily!❤️
Would love to see you do a show about cyberstalking and what people can do legally about it.
I feel for you too Emily, you seemed to have a good friendship with her too. I was thinking about you when i saw the Emily art video. I feel for anyone who has been betrayed by her, it’s a horrible experience, worse than the breakup with a bf/gf imo
@@keely1368 omg i forgot they were friends! Damn that sucks 😓
I hope you're doing okay
Holy shit, you watch too?? Glad 2 of my favorite creators are so close.
You're the fourth RUclipsr I've seen in the comments. The site's really not okay with this shit, damn.
hi cuestar! didn't expect to see you here. i hope shes alright too.
You are cool af and really appreciate you supporting RTG, who i love too
Holy shit its Cue
I'm so sorry this had happened. You have all my love and respect 💚
Awww Vanna you're so caring
What happened? Or is it in the video?
@@FreshNews247 check pinned comment
VANNA YOUR SO SWEET
The fact that you STILL checked in with Shannon even after all of the stuff she did speaks volumes about how nice of a person you are. I hope you feel better about all of this soon
Imagine having someone publicly bash you and be exposed for heinous shit and you're still the bigger person enough to check in on them. Damn if thats not humanity.
LOVE. THIS.
I hope she felt shame in that
I'm not sure if I would have done it, even though it's the right thing to do.
@@solala1312 Giulia is better than most of us
@@yuki97kira That Shannon (CSA) felt shame, right?
I just saw Emily Artful's video on cheepshow art and it genuinely made me physically sick. I can't believe people are capable of being so atrocious and harmful to other people for so long without being held accountable, and without feeling the slightest pain in their conscious to make it stop.
Im glad this has come all out into the open. Im hoping emily can heal from the stalking, knowing whos doing it and having others know gives you some power back.
Shannon's always been a bully and the fact people are acting surprised now shows me how fake youtube has become. Emily is no angel either.
Did you draw your pfp?
Sounds like a narcissist- they have no remorse.
@@Willowtree82 And how exactly is Emily no angel? Not everyone is perfect in what they choose to do but when you go the extra mile to RUIN someone's life like Shannon did, Emily did NOT deserve that. No one would've known Shannon was a nasty and terrible person if these things didn't come to light.
The IP spoofing is less than "incredibly unlikely" - it's next to impossible, even for a pro hacker. A hacker can spoof an IP address for a DDoS, but they cannot spoof an IP address to connect to a webpage and, for example, post a comment. They would have to control two different routers that would require specific knowledge of the target server and the REAL version of the IP address they want to spoof. This is due to the TCP handshake, which is the server checking that a computer is opening a connection, and the computer saying "yes, I started this connection and wish to continue."
Computer connects to server. It sends a specific set of data. This is initiating the handshake.
Server receives the data, and then sends another set back to the computer.
Computer sends another set of data to the server.
THEN things like loading a webpage or logging into a service happen.
What happens if someone spoofs an IP address?
Computer connects to server, using a spoofed IP. It sends a data packet.
Server sends a data packet to the machine with the IP address that was spoofed.
The machine doesn't send a response since it didn't initiate the handshake. The connection ends.
There is also the fact that, if we are to believe “Amy” did spoof the IP, that would mean she’d been doing all of what you described for at least THREE years. After all, Shannon was only caught a few months ago and was active on Lolcow for a while. Why would “Amy” fake an IP for such a long period of time and only get herself revealed after a few years to make Shannon look bad? How could she have known someone would track the IP?
Basically, “Amy” would not only have to be a really good hacker, but a really timely and manipulative one too.
Thanks man, this information is useful both in this situation and others, good on you for helping to educating people :)
Yep this hacker nonsense is just incredulous on every level. Even nation-state hackers often slip-up their OpSec at some point over that long of a period, and there's no goddamned way she's that good even if she *could* pull it off (which we both know is almost impossible to do _once_ let alone 300 times).
In 4chan, people had used my IP and got me banned multiple times.
In the ban reason says the cause and none of them were me.
Yea this argument only works against people who have no clue about it
Jesus, how many people this woman hurt? The algorithm is constantly suggesting new videos
She did Hopeless Peaches DIRTY! And a lot of youtubers went against her with no evidence. Just rumors all credits from 3 people who lied about her all three have allegations rn too
@@iamevilyss from what I heard, Emily Artful was the one who suffered more in the hands of Creep shows Art
Her entire thing WAS hurting people.
@@MamaMidnight98 Yep, she absolutely thrived off doing that twisted nonsense. Shannon & her partner need to go to prison asap, they're a danger to others.
Same omg
Chrissy Teigen: *builds a career on having connections in high places, all while spreading cruel messages about her peers*
CreepShow Art: Write that down, write that down!
Chrissy Teigens pizzagate tweets :^/
But yeah she's also very mean
This 💯👏👏👏
Courtney sodden wasn't her peer, the fck u talking abt? plus nasty tweets, isn't even in the same as Shannon did. they both did bad things, just very differently
YES!!!!! WELL SAID AND EXACTLY THE SAME CASE!
Ive seen you in all of the Creepshow Art comment sections (And maybe the Frenemies one too?) and they are ALL great comments lol
Sending your victim flowers. That’s a real psychopath vibe.
As One who is working on getting an anti-social personality (aka the informal “psychopath”) diagnosis..
This isn’t just straight psychopathy - there is narcissism tied into this. Psychopaths aren’t mutually exclusive to narcissism. Just as narcissism isn’t mutually exclusive to sociopathy.
Sure, we may have difficulty with empathy. However, not all psychopaths are liars who lack a moral code. Sure, we plot and scheme - and get off in it - though, not everyone does it, in the manner to purposefully hurt others.
I have no problem with social climbers - as long as it’s done with mutual integrity and respect.
I don’t develop many emotional attachments and I use everyone to learn my own life lessons; though - I appreciate everyone I have connected with, on the levels I am able.
Sure, I use that relationship for my own benefit. However, I purposefully look for how it could be mutually beneficial.
So, for an autist psychopath, like me - I think like one; though, it’s used in a virtuous manner.
I mean, what good would it do for me to do shitty things, in the end?
How is that a sustainable life?
Obviously, as Shannon has proved - it isn’t.
Though, I’d like to say..
I’ve know men who’ve done this sort of thing out of emotional rage and jealousy - plotting and scheming to hurt someone.
I don’t believe he was a psychopath.
Sometimes people do bad very bad things - who don’t have a personality disorder.
So, just something to, please, consider - when attempting to label people who do awful things, to others. Not everyone who may fall under that label, medically speaking - are even willing to ever to such awful things. Such awful things, to which - every person on the planet, holds the capacity to do, if ever pushed to it. 😉
@@XOChristianaNicole why would you seek that diagnosis
@@ac-fp9lx why does anyone seek any diagnosis? To get support for it, obviously. Feeling numb to emotions and struggling to form interpersonal bonds can't be fun to deal with and I'd want support if I went through that
@@ac-fp9lx also people say this to me about seeking an autism assessment. It's to access resources designed to help you, and to finally have confirmation and an explanation for why you've always felt different from most people you know. Not knowing is tough.
@@Alex-fc8xn that's true but autism itself covers a lot of those symptoms already which is why I ask.
And she would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling LOLcow admins.
Scooby Doo 😂 nice one
I was gonna upvote but then I saw you have the perfect amount of 420 upvotes
I’m literally watching scooby doo right now 🤣
Don't piss on a sysadmin and tell 'em it's rain. We have plenty of time and coffee to sift through logs if we take a break from Reddit and YT.
*In Scoobs*
Good one Shaggy!
As someone who had been a fan of Shannon for a while I’m flabbergasted. I’m a Junior in high school now and have been watching Shannon’s videos and following her art for as long as I’ve been on the internet. I cant believe that this person who I’ve kind of looked up to for such a long time could turn out to be such a shitty person. Seriously disappointed. I’m sending my love and prayers out to you and Emily! You guys never deserved this.
Honestly, take it as a lesson that the internet personalities - any celebrities really - are never who you think you see. Even the ones who try and be more down to earth and authentic are still performing a role. We develop these parasocial relationships where we think we know them, but we really don't.
Honestly, main reason I liked Shannon was because her personality reminded me a lot of my close friend, but even that close friend of mines didn't really like her. Then all of this came out and I just dunno what to think ...
same, im a junior and have been watching her for like a year. im not even sad, just angry. i dont understand how people can do shit like this.
tbf there's been a lot other stuff going on already, people had been trying to cancel her since like 2015-2016, just around 6 or 7 moths age when hopeless peaches POV on her situation got out people started to actually try and get her to apologize abt it, and became more aware, them Emily and Glare as of recently and FINALLY she's done here,
she was always bad and sketchy even to her viewers I think just ppl never noticed it bc she was sorta obv manipulating her audience, I was like that too till 2016 which was when her vids got more.. controversial
It’s not even her art, she, apparently with consent, takes smaller artists work and supposedly tags them in the description or smth, but doesn’t mention them in her videos in any other way
She is all she claimed to hate.
Yep, she was projecting this whole time.
I KNOW....
It's all so weird
Unfortunately I've found this to be true of several creators.
Abundant Love - i see it in people in general. sad stuff
Shannon's silence is all the confirmation i need. Emily's story is true, Glares is true, i just can't believe it. someone i watched, enjoyed, supported... completely vile.
Hasn't shannon even said if RUclipsrs are quiet, they're guilty? I could be wrong tho
I feel ya, I was watching her for awhile until recently I was avoiding her videos because her energy seemed...off but I didn't have any real reasoning as to why. she's very good at manipulation, it's scary. I'm glad lolcow exposed her before she reached more sucess. People like that deserve the fortune she's had
Im not surprised by this. She came off as an overly preachy folk. And after seeing dramas in the past I find people like that always have some awful secret. And i don't know why but after bit something just told me "Shes going to get exposed for something later on."
Its infuriating how many people she fooled with her fake sweetness.
@@Bee-gc2do Same! I used to watch her pretty consistently but stopped in recent months. I couldn't really figure out why, but something felt off to me too.
the sad part about betrayal is it never comes from a stranger
well by the very nature of betrayal it has to come from someone close
No way!!??
Changing her profile pic to her younger self is so blatantly manipulative...
It reminds me of when Shane Dawson changed his profile pic after he was canceled
oh tbh i thought that was just a random picture of a child
Do you mind explaining? I am not doubting you, just want to know the how and why.
@@lvl10cooking I think it’s because of a few things :)
1. it’s basically making you see her as fully rounded person, this isn’t just ‘creepshow art’ who has done all these terrible things and come close to absolutely ruining someones life, this is a girl who has a family, a childhood, a full life - even though none of that negates horrible actions done in adulthood, it can evoke empathy in some people and make it hard for you to just see her as a horrible, manipulative creator
2. Children represent innocence, if you look at pictures of (just for an example) killers as children, you’ll find it hard to see how they could grow into a person that could commit such terrible, depraved acts. If when you go into Shannon’s profile, ready to unfollow or write a message about how terrible you think she is, if you’re met with a child version of herself before you do so, you may start double-thinking and maybe not actually going ahead with what you planned to do
Basically, She’s manipulating you through the last Avenue she has - the fact that she’s ‘just a young girl’ -, and probably someone most of you used to like and empathise with, in order to try and escape the inevitable backfire.
I really don’t think it’s working at all though, like nice try but, I think she’s finally going to have consequences for her terrorising actions
@@luxlox9029 I agree
Sending you love ❤️
We all do love you Glare! Sorry this shit happened.
lots of queens in this comment section supporting Giulia 🙏💛
stephanie!!
Everybody I have spoken to has said the same thing about you Giulia...that you're such a genuinely kind person and you didn't deserve this at all. You have a lot of support and people who care about you. Losing a friendship in this way is very hard and I hope you're able to heal and process this asap💜
My girl Stephanie is in the house!!
She hasn’t spoken up to defend herself so I think that says a lot
Once no one believed her hijacked IP address…. What more could she say? “ wasn’t herself, mental illness…..”?? . But this is really deep, pathetic, serious issues dealing w so many people. Scary!!
The fact she,s deleting lot her stuff says a lot , I did watch her channel but I've unsubbed after hearing what she done to that lady and other ppl ,
She needs more time to formulate excuses lol. Ugh this is such an awful situation
After emily artful's vid, i dont think she'll ever come back 😩
She’s probably being advised by legal counsel to stay quiet. RUclips drama is one thing, but she allegedly stalked and harassed Emily Artful for a decade. (Saying allegedly for legal reasons. Emily’s video has quite a bit of proof in it.)
This makes Creep an even bigger Creep. I feel bad for everyone who is caught the wake of her being a trash human. Like did she really think noone would ever find out?!?
She did...I got into it with her over a year ago because she's a trash person and pretty much everyone took her side and she thought that would happen forever and for a while it did everyone took her side on everything for years
I truly believe she's a sociopath. She can't hold herself back from hurting others it just brings her so much happiness. She went out of her way to pretend to be people's friends and be best friends with these people for years while also harassing and slandering them on line for years. She gets off on hurting other people. She can't control herself it just brings her so much joy and pleasure to see others suffering. I truly believe she's a sociopath and that she didn't care if she ever got caught or not. She probably got arrogant enough at one point to believe she was untouchable but in the end she just wanted to see others suffer too much to not take the risk. I am normally very against cancel culture but I think we all have more than enough evidence in this case to know for sure this person is a terrible person and does not deserve the career they've been given. Shannon can go back to living in her car. I always wondered why her family and friends didn't help her when she was homeless and now I know. She's such a sociopath her own family doesn't even want her around.
@@WhitneyDahlin I’m so glad her videos were too boring for me get too attached to her. Thank you severe ADHD!
Just knowing what she did to Emily Artful, and her supposed “friends”. It’s safe to say she’s trash 🤡 Imagine stalking someone for almost a decade because they dated your ex before you.
May I ask you what she did to her? I couldn't watch the video because it had a SA trigger warning, but I'd like to vaguely know
@@PumaArg So Emily was with an abusive ex and when they finally ended it, Shannon ended up dating her ex. Emily was pretty sure he was cheating with Shannon already but had no proof of it. It’s a lot here but they hacked her fb, threatened to send her nudes (even her underage ones), and stalked her for over 8 years. Threatened her and her family, called her a bunch of names under socket accounts, etc. There’s so much more and that’s a brief summary so oof
@@PumaArg Creepshow has been silently seething for 12 years because her boyfriend (people say they aren't really married but I have no idea) is still obsessed with Emily Artful. Creepshow's entire RUclips channel and identity seems to be modelled after Emily. It seems to be the reason she even created her channel was to mess with Emily, as they'd been following her around and getting her fired from everywhere.
How much time do they have on their hands to spend so much trying to destroy someone & harass them. This is insane. They are going to kill someone someday.
@@PumaArg and then on top of that, creepshow came out talking about someone named amy stalking her, describing and using the experience for herself. Like as if she was pretending or fantasising that she was emily 🙄 she even talked n bitched about emily and spread lies like she tried to kill her own child or something. Just ridiculous things.
she also befriended emily in such weird ways and was super nice to her. I think the emily experience is the CORE of this whole thing. She seems unhealthily obsessed with emily either in hate or in love, or both, she's gotten her fired from jobs before and she's made her life hell. Emily has wasted so much money on private investigators, therapy and all around its just.. It's too much.
Also, i think the SA part is mentioned only a couple of times. Not in long detail at least i can check back to reconfirm that. And perhaps if you'd like, i can give you markers where to skip. Or someone else could help me with that because its 2 hours long. Or if you'd like, reply back if you want to know what it is, in a very brief sentence, to determine if you'd want to still watch the video or not. If not that's okay :))) whatever keeps u comfortable. I might watch the condensed video too (to sent my boyfriend lol) so i can see if its mentioned less there or not idk.
Creepshow:
"Draw your last pathetic art piece Emily!"
Emily:
"I have no pathetic art pieces but I do have the unstoppable receipts!"
All hail the receipts!
That's a insult to kaiba
Kaiba doesn't deserve to be her, at least he had good qualities unlike her! 😤
I don't get how a person like Shannon who draws disproportionate and messy art has the Audacity to tell some one, like Emily with god like skills, that her art is pathetic.
@@xenathornburg2416 It's jealousy; the kind that became so obsessive that Shannon stalked Emily for years. It's incredibly sick.
Just imagine the sheer dumpster fire that CreepShow Art and Gabbie Hanna could have ignited had they formed an alliance of sorts years ago. However, fortunately for everyone, their shared trait of jealousy of others who are succeeding would eventually get in the way and lead them to stab each other’s backs.
I don’t think anyone wants to imagine that 😐
@@jimthecactus7425 oh god they’re friends??
@@shmell918 Yep. She has publically defended her on many occasions. It's also believed she made fake accounts to attack people like Hellolesh
But they DID form an alliance. They are just too busy being individual dumpster fires to use their evil for good.
@@shmell918 umm yeah. CSA has come under fire for not calling out GH. That happened right before this drama
Can’t help but wonder.. if she actually used one of those VPN company’s she pushed, she wouldn’t have got caught
Omfg 😭😭☠☠
Lmao that’s pretty ironic,I guess whatever is done in the dark comes to light
People get get trough a VPN in 30 minutes.
@@sisselhelennikolaisen510 oh shit do they?
even when your IP changes your browser cookies don't, unless you erase them regularly. any website that stores cookies has a unique profile on you that documents every time you've been there, what your browser and IP was when you visited, and what device you used. this is what allows websites to remember that you've logged in before so that you don't have to log in again, and tailor recommendations and ads to you. the lolcow admins used this cookie information to immediately debunk her claim that her IP was spoofed, because they had her history going back YEARS, across multiple devices.
Friendship heartbreak like this to me is more upsetting than any relationship break up or heartbreak I've had. I just want to hug her.
I agree, for me relationships ending is inevitable because I only want to be with one person in the long run (I'm not sure how this might be different if I wanted an open relationship), but friendships never HAVE to come to an end, so it just hurts so much more when it happens
Honestly whenever she says stuff like “I love my friends and would do ANYTHING for them, you guys know that! Anyway (shouts out some creator really sicky-sweetly)” it has the same energy as Shane Dawson saying “I’m such an eMpAtH”
Omg I never thought about this 😭 I just thought Shannon was being a good person ugh I hate this
Vulnerable narcissistic behavior has its roots in the false belief that everyone cares about their problems and are willing to drop everything they're doing to "help" them. Also, that people will believe what they say at face value. When these lofty expectations are shattered, they might act out even worse. I hope that isn't the case here.
Shannon Dawson ey?
Merge the name Shane and Dawson you kinda get a Shannon. 😳😂
I'm pretty sure this action is called lovebombing and it's a form of manipulation.
10:29 I relate to that strange feeling of confusion when a “friend” does something like this.. The roses were sent so she could maintain your perception of her as a “caring friend” and also simultaneously try to make you doubt the evidence. She’s fake, manipulative, and insecure.
Agreed. It’s like a bribe.
Ariel? Is that your name?
@@brooke7063 I wish that was my name! My name is Desiree☺️
@@nightynightshade that's a gorgeous name :')
I'm not defending her, but maybe she did care. Creep can't be all bad, I hope she gets help, and stops hurting people.
Major respect for checking in on her even though your feelings were hurt. That's really admirable.
After everything that has come out about her and Emily, it’s clear to me that she invented the “Amy” character and story so that if she ever got backed into a corner she could “come out” and name Emily as “her stalker”. I’m so glad Emily beat her to the punch and told her story before that could happen.
I think she invented the story so she could discredit Emily\make it look like Emily copied her story if Emily decided to publicly talk about being stalked.
I'm so sorry, that this happened to you, it's very hard to go through these realizations about 'friends'. In your case even multiple times.. Happy that you are speaking out on the issue instead of staying silent.
Emily made a video for 2 hours about CREEPSHOW ART.
A Turtle no longer approves of Creep Show Art.
What did she say that was so bad specifically about RTG?
Hallo Soja! Mag viele deiner Videos sehr-lustig zu sehen, dass du auch ready to glare guckst :). Liebe Grüße
@@just_a_turtle_chad smart turtle👏
Beautifully said 💜
I had never heard of lolcow before this, I just checked it out. what a disgusting horrifying corner of the internet
Same! But fitting now that shannon spent most of her time there, even on multiple accounts.
I still don't see the point of it
i haven’t brought myself to check it out and i hope i never do. you’re a much braver person than me for looking at it
I can’t figure that page out 👁👁 maybe for the best huh
it's pretty much just 4chan imo
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time", -Maya Angelou
Chin up, I know it sucks but we got you.
Hey Giulia, don't feel bad or naive for believing someone you felt was close to you and wanting to have a geniuine connection with them (in both cases). Just because the world is cold doesn't mean we have to be cold as well. You're a good person and a great friend who didn't deserve this. Take care x
agreed she couldn't have known what shannon was really like.
I hate this because how will you be able to trust another new “friend” ever again? You fight enough with your personal struggles as it is. I’m soo sorry babe.
im noticing a pattern in Shannon taking advantage of friends who clearly struggle with personal issues and befriending them or getting connected through someone else to attack them
@@abbie_joan it’s very predatory. I feel so bad for RTG.
Facts, we worry about not finding "the one" but it's the friendships that hurt the most as they know you more than anyone. Friendships run deeper than relationships for sure.
This really depresses me. I remember going on youtube years ago and people were doing fun collabs and their audiences were smaller so we really felt like a small family. Now a bunch of big youtubers turning out to be awful i think hurt not only the direct victims, but us the subscribers.
So many youtubers i used to watch regurlarly just turned out to be so disgusting and it really affected me.
I wonder, what would be of this new generation where their fave creators will desappoint them over and over...? Without the authorities giving victims justice. This is so sad.
It's just awful. I've had a similar experience with a friend but not on a public platform. But it is really so hard to trust new people again. I can't imagine how RTG feels.
I could tell she was a mess. She went from an art channel to basically keemstar in a matter of months, because it was boosting her views.
KARMA did her so good. This is what hapoen when mix art and try to cancel other ppl
You either die Jenna Marbles (I couldn’t think of a better example) or live long enough to see yourself become Keemstar.
I warned so many people about this girl and no one listened. I originally knew Shannon was a bad person just from the way she made videos and then I had a personal bad experience with her about a year and a half ago. I'm just glad people finally know and she isn't manipulating people anymore
That’s so good to see. So many comments saying:”I knew she was a bad person from day one!” Okay why didn’t you warn anyone??? 😭 thank *you* for trying, I’m glad her deceitful ways caught up with her
@@SanjaSleipnir Because they enjoy watching her. I saw so many fans of her and verified channels apologizing to her victims saying they're sorry for judging them, talking shlt on them, that they just believed Shannon. That's how manipulative and convincing she is.
@@helloworld2784 yea you’re completely right on that. It’s scary how good she was at mimicking things like empathy, compassion and such. People knew something was off but still were lured in by her spiel. Scary person
@@SanjaSleipnir Not so many people spoke up because they were scared of her big audience.
Remember Hopeless Peaches drama happened? So many small creators talked about Shannon's lies but it never had any impact on her career. It's sad that THIS much had to happen to finally get her cancelled
Hindsight's 20/20 I guess
She hates herself and seems to be taking it out on everybody. Something is clearly wrong with this woman.
Absolutely. I know when I was younger and my self esteem was in Hades I spent a lot of time on forums like that too...never promoted myself or talked crap about my friends there though! She really does need help
@@ajaku the fact that she was willing to stalk and harass Emily out of jealousy is so pathetic it's almost funny. Oh and did i mention she's in possession of cp. And she also goes out of her way to protect her rap1st husband so yeah pretty shitty eh
@@clivebixby206 Wait what, okay I haven't heard of that, do you know where you heard this from (about the CP and the rapist husband)?
@@djmarz7123 Emily Artful posted a 2h long video talking about her stalker and showing receipts - it is allegedly about Shannon's husband and Shannon herself
I mean she's on another level of self hate I struggle with self esteem and depression and I know so many other people inside the same boat and we ain't like that she must have gone a long ass time without help for her behavior to become so deteriorated and progress soooooo far
This must be so horrible for so many people, she’s hurt so many people. Sending love ❤️
What I don't understand is why she's doing this, she literally makes videos calling people out for the same things.
A Turtle no longer approves of CreepShowArt.
@@hallway_revenant7919 Projection?
❤️Sending support. Sorry this happened to you.
@@hallway_revenant7919 Seems like she enjoys playing with people's emotions
I hate to be that guy but: there’s always a bright side. Here, you no longer have a horrible, fake, toxic person in your life. Keep your head up!! And she’ll eventually get what’s coming for her :)
Why would you hate to be the person who talks positively lol. That's a good thing!
@@Whoareyoupeople900 Lol idk some people get annoyed with that because they want their time to just be sad ya know?
It may feel sarcastic or insensitive to put out optimism, but adding a little optimism to the situation doesn't hurt.
Did she stop tho??
One of my best friends in high school was diagnosed with psychopathy. She was extremely charismatic, popular, and one of the funniest people i had ever met-of course along with this she was incredibly malicious and conniving. The funny thing is that Shannon always skeeved me out because she reminded me SO much of this friend, all the way down to her caddy sense of humor, quippy observations about pop culture, even the way she talked … figures that Shannon reminded me of a psychopath, huh? :/
You can see the hurt to Giulia the person, not just to the "Ready to Glare" persona.
I was friends with a covert narcissist for nearly ten years. The betrayal that came with our eventual parting still effects me and some days are worse then others. Having a friend hurt you is so painful. You let them into be a part of your life and it's taken for granted.
Friendship break ups are not talked about enough. They're just as painful and hard as a romantic breakup. You feel foolish and dumb for letting someone take advantage of your heart and spend days thinking "Was any of it true? Was it all just manipulation?". You have momentos and gifts around the house that are tainted now because now you see it as them buying your friendship. It sucks. Big time.
My heart goes out to you. Trust me, life is better without liars in it.
@Benjamin Sharpie A narc who wants to get help and change is fine but for the love of god don’t invalidate other peoples feelings or experiences because you claim to have a higher understanding of the disorder. You have no idea. Sincerely, someone who was abused by a narcissistic father for 18+ years of my life.
Been there too Jenna, it's really hard! Hope you're okay!!
You're abosolutely right, and I second that friendship break ups need to be addressed more. It hits hard when they betray you out of nowhere, or simply throw you away as if you're disposable garbage, it's especially worse imo if either party was on relatively good terms.
@Benjamin Sharpie you can be abusive and narcissistic
@@saram5964 Yeah, that's what they were saying, I think. Narcissism doesn't necessarily mean you're abusive (some narcissistic people don't harm anyone), but narcissism can definitely be a reason why you're abusive, and when that's the case, my empathy stops.
Not your fault. I originally thought CSA was just a little bit catty, but her being a Keemstar fan and being super toxic is why I believe you and Emily.
she was a keemstar fan? alright, that settles it, i'm never watching her again.
I didn't know she LIKED keemstar. I always wondered what kind of people enjoyed him. Guess now we know.
Who is Keemstar? I've been seeing their name in comments alot recently.
@@Copperkaiju keemstar is the guy that runs the "DramaAlert" channel. In my opinion, his videos are good because it informs you of any drama going off in the community. However, he's not a good person. He's said racist things, bullied kids on games, falsely accused an old man of being a convicted p*do (he got the wrong person) causing the old man to get nasty messages and a lot of distress. These are just a few examples of the messed up things keem has done.
@@CatDadJai I knew he had a bad reputation but I didn't want to suffer through a bunch of his vids to find out why. Thanks for the info.
People never cease to amaze me I swear. Had similar situations with “friends” in my past. Actually was shot by someone I considered my best friend for years, and also sent to prison by someone I was very close friends with (he was also my cousin). So I just put up a wall years ago and I refuse to get close to anyone. I stick to myself, changed my life. I go to work everyday, come home and either watch tv or get on the internet. Zero social life and I’m completely fine with that honestly. I have like work friends, I may go grab a beer with them once or twice a year ya know? But they don’t really know me. They know absolutely nothing about my past. It’s kind of a running joke at work, a coupe of them refer to me as Mysterio in jest cuz I don’t talk about my life with them. I remove myself from the convo when people start talking about their personal life. It’s not the same I know, but I felt like I could understand when listening to you talk about this Creepshow chick. Hope everything works out for ya. Keep your head up…
Sounds like some bad friends. Like, how the hell did one send you to jail?
I hope you can find it in you to let people in again someday. I totally relate to shutting people out due to past pain and trauma, but eventually it gets old. To each their own though, if you're happy that's all that matters.
Hope you are doing okay.
@@Nakia11798 I may have worded that a little loosely. He testified against me in the case that sent me up for three years at 18 years old. I was guilty as a mofo, but he turned states evidence against me to avoid a 6 month sentence when I was originally facing 56 years. About half of the case they presented was utter nonsense and they knew it. So when plea bargaining started, we got all the way down to 3 years flat and I took and ran with it. I was the happiest mofo in the penitentiary I swear. Goin from facing 56 years to serving 3 flat, I got quite lucky there.
@@alexisjakubiak8035 thank you!
It sucks already when you have trust issues and people do things like this to you. I’m so so sorry.
Agreed. It takes a lot to trust again after being hurt by others.
It only reassures you that people can’t be trusted
@@commentbot9510 Exactlyy smfh
Reason why I have literally one friend lol. I have major trust issues 😕
Shannon reminds me that scene from Mean Girls, where Regina compliments girl's skirt later she talks shit about her skirt.
Regina George wasn't even this nuts.
@@carlycrays2831 atleast Regina was mature for her age. She is almost fucking 30 and has a worst attitude than a maturing 16 years old
And that she wrote her own name down in the burn book- Shannon posted comments shit talking herself on lolcow to remove any suspicion.
At least Regina redeemed herself by the end of the film. I don’t think we’re going to see Shannon genuinely change any time soon.
@@clorby22 Jokes aside I don't want so see Shannon ever again in this platform. After I watched Emily Artful's video my blood fucking boiled. What she did was crime and Emily could ended up hurting herself due to Shannon's and her psycho husbands behavior.
there's no way in hell Shannon can ever come back from this. this goes far beyond petty RUclips drama. this is a legit crime!
“Be aware, Shannon has been deleting my comments about the following: she recently deleted the videos “I’m A Narcissist” “My Ex Boyfriend Found My Channel” “RuPaul Stole My Idea”. I commented that the reason she’s deleted those videos, is because in them she mentioned Amy The Stalker, and lies about the nonexistent Amy in those videos, contradict her current drivel on the community tab. BE WARNED. The fact that she deleted my comments about this makes me think she’s busy concocting the next chapter of this nonsense. Please don’t be manipulated. Thanks for reading x” credits to ND spread the word yall
I just watched the rupaul stole my idea video and she dosen't mention amy, or anyone else. She does however mention a lot of things about emily indirectly in the I'm a narcissist video. Not gonna bother with the other one.
Why does this exact quote keep getting copied and pasted on ALL the videos covering this topic? By different accounts?
Hhkfksa
@@creatrixcorvusarts876 I’m super curious about this too…
Maybe it's creep show on a sock puppet account in a last attempt effort to get views on the mentioned videos to cash out.. Just a theory.
I used to defend Shannon when people were saying she “love bombed” you and I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but now I completely take that back. I see it now and I’m sorry you went through such a toxic (and public) friendship with her. She was so so fake online it’s actually disgusting :(
what does "lovebombing" mean? And how this Shannon person did it to RTG?
I'm wondering what love bombing is too
@@franciscariveramartinez love bombing is basically when you overwhelm people with acts of love or appreciation in order to hide your true intentions, often publicly. A lot of manipulators and abusers use this tactic to keep their target close to them and to remove doubt in the victim's mind that they're being manipulated or abused and to make other people believe that they're a good person. It's unfortunately common and also unfortunately works fairly well on the victim :(
@@franciscariveramartinez “Love bombing is an attempt to influence a person by demonstrations of attention and affection. It happens when someone overwhelms the victim with loving words or physical actions with manipulative behaviours.[1] It can be used in different ways and for either positive or negative purposes.[2] Psychologists have identified love bombing as a possible part of a cycle of abuse and have warned against it.” Copy and pasted from Wikipedia but it describes it well
Who is shannon? What is the name of her channel?
What fucks me up is that a fully grown woman acts like this. She must feel really dissatisfied with herself to do this so consistently and to multiple people. Take care, RTG, and take all the time you need to heal and recover. We love you.
Yeah, that's PURE self-destructive behaviour.
yeah only a really messed up person has the time and energy to hate on other people like this
@@Nakia11798 Oh trust and believe there's more people like this out there. Compulsive liars, backstabbers, narcissists, etc. I've had my experience with one who'd I've exposed yet she knew how to manipulate people so I'd be the bad guy. It's mentally exhausting. I'm glad she's out of my life but it stays with you and makes you question every person you come into contact with - paranoia.
In regards to her being "dissatisfied with herself," I'm really wondering how her relationship with Anthony plays a part in all of this. And as someone who never really watched her videos before, did she ever bring up her relationship before? If not, I find that very weird
One thing I grew up thinking that adults are above all the petty drama and once I reach adulthood life would be more sane. The biggest misconception I've ever had. Creepshows age has nothing to do with her maturity unfortunately, she was probably always like this since a child.
Why do so many creators fuck up in such a bad way, like really fucking bad, how is it so hard for them to be a basic human being, i also wish you the best Giulia, this is just bad damn
KARMA!!! This is what happens when Creepshow Art is all avout cancel culture.
They have too much time
@@RJ-sd6uc ikr, when that’s all you talk about you’re going to gain those kind of fans and subscribers. It would make sense that she was cancelled this bad, but she honestly had it coming.
@@veiiee you know what funny most of this commentary/drama channel always portrayed themself as a good person and the gate keeper who is good or bad these ppl that she talks about need to do better , need to apologies, take accountability, behaviour is not acceptable, should not have a platforms and so on. She just did all the above when making her video Art+Drama..
She should focus on Creating Art but instead she go and Create Fake Acc 😂
This is why, I think, a lot of RUclips creators don't become friends with others in the community.
A completely unrelated compliment: Your hair looks amazing 💖
Her sending you roses before everything hit the fan is called "love bombing" and is a common manipulation tactic to put their victim in a position where they'd feel like they have to agree or go along with them
Edit: I'd like to clarify that "love bombing" is a repeated behavior to manipulate someone. This one instance of Shannon giving Glare flowers is not exactly love bombing; however, given Shannon's behavior towards people like Omnia and Emily, and how she love bombed them to back them into a place where they felt like they had to go along with Shannon and felt guilty if they didn't, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't the only instance that Shannon has done something like this to Glare. If they were as close as implied in the video, any kind gestures could have been brushed off as "friendship" rather than manipulation. The thing about love bombing is that it doesn't always immediately precede shit hitting the fan. My narcissistic mother has love bombed me all my life, taking me on extravagant vacations or buying me expensive things out of the blue and then using her "kindness" against me in a disagreement. She still holds vacations we took 15 years ago- when I was an elementary student- over my head.
Not necessarily lol. A one time thing isnt love bombing, a pattern would be. Stop using terms of abuse so easily because it makes it harder for people to recognize actual abuse.
@@oh-6613 it's a pattern with Creepshow Art to love bomb people. She did it with Omnia and Emily Artful.
It's not using a term of abuse so easily. It's appropriately using a term of abuse when an abuser has repeatedly displayed this behavior. Like? Do your research before coming at people?
@@oh-6613 hi I survived different forms of abuse personally, perhaps you have too? I personally feel this is a correct usage because Shannon had set a precedent in doing this stuff with others as well and because the context she was trying to use that in. You can disagree but that doesn't mean it's objectively going to hurt abuse survivors perhaps your a survivor yourself, as I said, but you can't speak for everyone, thank you for caring about the rest of us but we may have different opinions from you.
I don't think what she did was love bombing. Manipulative yes but not the same as omnia. With omnia she would shower her with compliments and tell her often how she is "her idol" or "the best blah blah blah". Giving flowers isn't really love bombing... I would agree if she did more before/after that i.e strong&often compliments, nice gestures, more gifts.
y'all remember when Creepshow was accused of love bombing that one time?
actually cancelled dinner to watch this
Make sure to eat though. Much love x
Worth it
Eat & watch ❤️
Postponed making crepes to watch this 💀😂
Eu, didn't expected u here Tora
I feel like we all had a friend like this at one point in our lives. Some people can lie into your face, play the victim and nice person so well... you trust them. It hurts.
also, for anyone in these comments coming at former viewers/friends of CSA for not seeing this coming - remember how long Shane Dawson was on this platform virtually unchecked. how long Gabbie Hanna kept her career/collaborations by having her own corner of the platform. bad people aren't bad all the time, and what's obvious to you is not obvious to the people who connected with the good.
we've all made poor judgement on someone's character before. it's what people say now they know that counts.
vouch
Lets not use shane dawson as an example, he started his career with blackface, not being shady
@@LxstHxlo CSA also went beyond being shady to be fair, with the whole Emily situation. but I absolutely see your point - wasn't trying to downplay Shane's behaviour at all
And now Shane's been allowed to slide again, all because of James Charles doing way less than Shane ever did.
If any random commenters here are not aware, please look into Emily Artful's experience with Shannon
She seems much much worse than just lolcow posts
I’ve been watching Emily since the beginning and this broke my heart, the way Shannon treated her was absolutely disgusting
yeah.
The tone of her video was so much more authentic than Shannon's.
Yeah, we're dealing with straight up crimes here
Emily’s video was shocking, and I’m honestly pretty worried for Shannon now. Hearing about Shannon’s husband’s involvement makes this all so much weirder and scarier.
You’re so incredibly brave and powerful speaking on this. Make no mistake: This is a significant trauma, it’s demoralizing and heartbreaking to go through something like this not once, but TWICE. Please take care of yourself and your mental health. You’re a good person! It takes a lot of kindness and strength to reach out to Shannon to check on her even after what she did! You and nobody else in the friend group deserves this, at all.
How can you fully trust online ‘friends’ again after something like this?
@@PajamaManor exactly, I doubt I'd even be a good enough person to check on her through all of that!
@@PajamaManor me, myself, personally; I don’t trust Shannon at all anymore. Not after all that’s come out and after watching Emily Artful’s video and seeing how low Shannon’s behavior has been. I am throughly disgusted by Shannon and am embarrassed for her and that I was ever a fan of her. I was just saying that Guilia (sp?) has the emotional strength and kindness of a flipping *Saint* to check in on Shannon even after their friendship is over and after all Shannon did. Guilia (again, sp?) is truly a better person than I’d be in this situation
No idea why this showed up on my feed or why i clicked on it or who these people are. But the way she handled this is so mature and such an honest way of handling a situation.
No jumping to conclusions, giving people the benefit of the doubt, but not ignoring the evidence she was confronted with. Still caring for her friends health even when she knew she had most likely been betrayed by her...its just great to see how she handled this, and it's unfortunate she had to encounter that kind of person
"Nobody deserves to hurt themselves"
And nobody deserves to get stalked and harassed for the better part of a decade but look where we are. :/
i thought she was just shit talking ppl wtf
@@betssylopez5895 apparently in addition to shit talking ppl and communities, she & her partner obsessively stalked another content creator for over 10 years. Some really disturbing ways of harassing & threatening them
@@basshead7171 They're disturbing and people forget that they're just not evil, they're CRIMINALS TOO.
I'm pretty sure readytoglare didnt know shannon was stalking at the time.
hey no need to victim blame here, she was confused and processing being betrayed by a friend. she likely didn't know anything about shannon stalking people otherwise she wouldn't have been soft with her.
I think it’s so unfair that people demand instant responses and reactions of people when their friends are exposed for being harmful. As humans, we need time to process our complex emotions and I think we should all try to be more patient with one another instead of demanding people speak out immediately or writing them off as enablers or complicit.
I hope you’re taking care of yourself above all else 💗
I completly agree. It makes me feel ill knowing that some people can just disregard people's mental health who have been directly effected by this to fuel their own narrative as soon as they want it. Give people the time they need. I hope you can heal from this Giulia.
Instant responses to shit like this causes more grief than its worth. Taking the time to process, and understand the situation and how it affects you is so important to having a healthy response.
Honestly it didn’t even occur to me your silence was compliance/avoidance/etc. I was concerned your mental health had taken a heavy hit because of this so I’m glad to see you’re (relatively) okay. She fooled a lot of people and has done a lot of damage. I hope you are getting support irl and we all send you our love and support as well 💜
Honestly, I figured she wouldn’t make a public video because of the possible mental toll this would take. Never thought she condoned it at all.
It's horrible how terrible people can treat others like garbage and go unnoticed like this,I hope you're doing well,wishing you healing💖
Thank god that people finally found out what kind of person she is. I was annoyed by her videos popping up in my recommendation from the start. Ugh. I made the mistake more than once to click on one of her videos because the title was interesting. Just to find out that she just rambles without breathing, about unimportant bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic of the video. (usually petty drama that she got herself into). I don't have the time or energy to listen to all of this and pay attention to when she will finally start talking about the topic in the title. Her shit personality just shined through when she talked and I always just had that feeling that she is insufferable but couldn't put my finger on why she's giving off this vibe. Now I know why. Because she is.
You know shits about to get real when I've been watching giulia for over 3 years and have never seen her record outside of her studio
The fact that you weren’t shit talking and dogging her this whole video just shows how much better you are than her! Take that high road sis! the view is better up there anyway!
Your pfp is super cute 🥰
and a lot less traffic
#this
You did really good in this video.
Go away
You’re amazing rep 💖
hey rep 😎
@@Quario why?
@@liamgeorgios Watch Primink's video about him
The irony is, awhile back, I tried offering some VALID, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM of Shannon and almost instantly, Ashlee Lillie responded to me with a rude comment talking about how I was 'bashing,' Shannon. Nah, girl, you're blind.
Ugh this whole thing has really shook me. I can’t even imagine how you feel.
All the people demanding a response lost sight of the fact that her friends were victims too. Unless you’ve been through it, it’s impossible to empathize with how psychologically traumatic the act of being betrayed by someone you’ve invested a lot of trust in truly is. I’m so sorry you are experiencing that due to this situation.
It’s completely understandable that you still have compassion for Shannon and I hate that you feel the need to defend that bc people lack the life experience necessary to understand how cruel it is to expect immediate condemnation or suffer guilt by association. It doesn’t make sense that so much energy would be put into a facade for the sake of self-promotion and grappling with the reality of her false persona doesn’t negate that the friendship was genuine for you. You should be permitted the space to grieve that loss and to wish better for Shannon bc she clearly needs help. On behalf of the audience that understands that… I want to apologize for any pressure you felt from those who don’t.
Wishing you peace, love, and support as you process everything and begin to heal. 💞
Omg so well said! Hope she she's this one.
Right?! I wouldn't have been able to put out a response, esp video response, this quickly, for real. Guilia is so strong.
@@JaseekaRawr took the words out of my mouth. The trolls/insensitive people on this site are usually pretty young. I know because when I actually throw an educated argument back to their trolling they just say "I don't need this. Logging off"
Co-signing this! She owes no one any explanation and should heal through this trauma however she wants and as long as it takes. I guess some people aren’t able to be respectful and need the affected parties to SpIlL tHe TeA 🤦♀️
You genuinely sound heartbroken. It's the only word I could think of when you were describing how you felt. I am so sorry you had to go through something as horrible as this, especially publicly.
You’re one of the kindest human beings on YT. It’s heartbreaking that there are malevolent people out there who will take advantage of that. Take care of yourself.
At this point, I’m ready for anything. After watching Emily’s video, there’s no way Shannon can get worse
Don’t even say that. That’s when worse info comes out.
@@bellezanegra0206 oh yeah. True
Great now you've jinxed us /j
Sure she can.
[Billy Mays enters the chat]
I was a huge fan of yours before she was even on the scene, you were the first person I thought of after Emily though, because you had met in person and become personal friends. Hope you're okay🖤🖤
I am so sorry you went through this. And multiple time too 😔
My ex partner lied throughout our two year relationship about a dead ex partner... And when she felt me getting close to the truth she put up a fake gravestone in the cemetery in a bid to get me to believe it... I went back there without her one day... And it had gone. I helped her heal from something that never happened... I was shown this girks jewellery, house, where they went to school, told about a fundraiser in her name, told about how she died etc etc... She was very much a part of our relationship... And I tried so hard to help my partner heal... Abd it was all fake. This was a year ago.
It absolutely damages you to the core. So pleaseput yourself first, get whatever help you need, vent about it and keep your circle small.
Sending you peace, love and healing ✌️
I'm an old lady now but I went through something like this in my,late twenties. When your in a situation where things start getting crazy it's because someone crazy is around you. People like Shannon make accusations and call names is them telling on themselves. Narcissists-everything they say they are talking about themselves and everything they say about other people is projection, them still talking about themselves. Everything she accused you of she did and every name she called you is how she feels about herself. She is an admitted narcissist but she seems to have made a big deal about how hard her life is so that would be a vulnerable or covert narcissist. So every hardship she has talked about is what she is trying to do to everyone around her. It's shocking to believe someone could be this calculating and it would stretch over this many people but they are masters of manipulation. There are whole forums on RUclips about this disorder. Dr Ramani is a good one.
I'm just so disappointed she turned out this way, you were manipulated along with so many people and there was really so many people she hurt and I just don't understand why Shannon did all of this. As a former viewer of Creepshow Art, it's really just so confusing to me why she'd keep up a front while leading a path of destruction when she thinks she's completely anonymous.
Edit: I see so many people in the reply section trying to blame me and other people who were past viewers for falling for her antics. Keep in mind a few things, I was young and very impressionable when I started watching her content and I didn't know what behaviour to expect from commentary channels and even if the tone was too off putting like even when she was aggressive, I wrote it off as her just being angry at whatever horrible person she was talking about. I didn't know how to read people and it was never obvious to me when a tone was bad or good due to my inability to read situations. I only realized something in her tone was wrong when I started watching people like D'angelo Wallace and Kurtis Conner who were never aggressive in their content. I didn't see the red flags until much later, I stopped watching her videos about three months ago because I just couldn't stand her and that was around the time I started looking for podcasts instead. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by all these people feeling betrayed but you have to remember that she manipulated an entire audience and the people closest to her - we're all just victims in this scenario and the only person to blame is Shannon.
Because of those last 5 words you typed, she thinks she is completely anonymous. She is a coward & thought that even if she was caught in lies that she would still be protected by the anonymity. It's honestly disgusting to see how many people hide behind a screen & think its okay to cause such chaos because of it freely.
Turned out this way? She's ALWAYS been like this. I can't believe she managed to fool a lot of people, can't you guys see how much of a horrible person she is from the getgo?
@@xx-gb5rt i’d been a viewer of hers for a while, and i thought she seemed really genuine and like she cared about the people around her. sometimes people lie, and not everyone will be able to tell. and that sucks.
@@xx-gb5rt I don't think it's your intention but don't shame people for not finding out sooner. No, we weren't able to tell from the get go. Her whole audience wasn't able to tell. Her friends weren't able to tell. She manipulated all of us
@@xx-gb5rt I honestly can't, I'm confused 😕 and I don't think the way you're saying it helps in any way. It's not out fault the fact that we can't understand someone's mind.
Your hair is just..... magical. You're adorbs. Now that I've gotten that out of the way, I'll say this:
Having a friend that ends up not being who you thought they were, is like grieving the death/loss of someone you knew. I know this is a morbid comparison, but it's true. So with that being said....
Sorry for your loss. 🦄 Stay Magical
HI AZ❗❗❗❗❗🧞♀️
I agree with you wholeheartedly AZ. I lost (never really had now that I look back) someone who I thought was my friend of over 30 years. It is like a death, sometimes burying that part of your life is healing and beautiful. As odd as that sounds, I believe it to be true also.
I also agree that RTG is absolutely beautiful, stay strong and continue to love yourself young lady.
All the best
@@areyoukiddingme6741 💜💜💜 xo
This happened in my friend group a few years ago - the person in question lied about speaking multiple languages, being a victim (of SA, of Gamergate, you name it) and about having MS. Behind closed doors she was abusive, extorted tens of thousands of dollars, and never had a job.
The fallout was so so awful. I hope that you are able to find the space to recontextualize your memories of her and to heal from the hurt she caused to you and to others 🥺
It's so huge of you to still check up on her, pure example of a good human
Been subscribed for a long while - I was there when you went live. It was so hard to see, knowing you were in such immense pain and clearly emotionally traumatized, yet also knowing there was probably nothing I as a mere subscriber could say to comfort you. Please just know, all these years later, I was there and I cried with you.
I’m sorry for this entire situation as well. It is almost too twisted to be real, but as we grow older reality does indeed become stranger than fiction. Please, be good to yourself. You are valuable. You are cherished.
I'm shocked to find out just how many people she has affected. Even you aren't safe. I'm so sorry that this happened to you.
All of this honestly hits me hard because I once had a friend/ex-gf who turned out to be extremely hurtful and toxic. After her abuse towards me, I learned of all the abuse she has done to everyone else them I later learned that she talks shit about me behind my back during our relationship.
We've tried to reason with her but she just lashed out against us with her clique then pushed us away painting us as the villains. She's sadly still out there doing her thing, because well there's only so much a group of victims can do with a person like her, which is also why I'm glad that you are getting your justice in the form of the internet community.
This comment and the video is hitting me hard too because yesterday i got broken up with. I was recently dating a guy who seemed so lovely and sweet, and we were long distance. So this past weekend i drove up to his state and he turned into this abusive, controlling psycho. It was out of nowhere and im so shaken up by it. I really dont understand what happened. I was so kind to him and he never showed any signs that he was so violent and aggressive. He broke up with me yesterday and everyone is saying that i dodged a bullet, but it still hurts. I had a very painful breakup last year, and i was thinking that i could finally have hope again that i could be with someone nice. Nope. Apparently not. 🤷♀️
Sorry, i just really needed to vent this.
@@ashleysartattack5600 I'm so sorry to hear that. Your story is actually the same as mine she too was really kind I too thought that she was my big break.
It's a very frightening and honestly traumatizing experience. I can't tell what the case for the guy is since I don't even know him but that's how it usually goes for those types of people, they prey on those who really care and manipulate them to care for them. While we give it all they're actually just using us.
I wish you all the best in life and I hope that you will be able to recover from this in a healthy way. I had the misfortune of losing my way in life because of the trauma and I wish others wouldn't through the same mistake.
I'm not even joking, this is by far the WORST friendship betrayal I've ever heard in my entire life. It's insane, no cap.
Unfortunately friendship betrayal can get VERY MUCH WORSE. I wish disloyal people just didn’t exist
@@Lauren-pt3gz friendship betrayal is sometimes worse than relationships betrayal itself. Coz Friendship is like a handpicked family. There’s more trust and a safety net is instilled in friendship since we’re more likely to lose a boyfriend/girlfriend over a trusted best friend. I cannot imagine the trauma Emily had to go thru. With a toxic abusive ex+manipulative abusive friend. If I were in her shoes it’d take a while for me to recover from such a severe psychological abuse
@@sakasusuk yeah, your friends are who you talk to if your SO turns out to be an asshole and you need support. you aren't necessarily going to get the same support from your SO (even if you currently have a relatively decent one which a lot of people don't) if your bff or close friend betrays you/is an asshole.
@@elizabethevenson6110 FACTS!! Even in divorce cases, who do you run to after ur spouse abuse/cheat? Friends. They’re your confidants, emotional support, and whom have been with since your younger self days. They sometimes know you better than your families. My break up with my ex was wayyy less hurtful in comparison to when I lost my ex best friend of 10 years coz she betrayed my trust. The pain level was a whole different level and it took me a full year to heal
This isn’t a pissing contest, but my lifelong BFF from age 4- when we were in our early 20s, her vehicle was vandalized and broken into whilst she was in the gym working out. The vandal and thief stole her bank card, some petty cash, and left one of her windows broken.
That happened on a Thursday. She called me that evening after going to the police and she was so upset and rattled. I felt so terrible for her and again, this was my very best friend since we were practically babies. I didn’t hear from her for a few days, but we worked at the same club and I came into work on a Sunday night. I saw her. She saw me and the second she looked at me with a look on her face like I had never seen in my life, I felt my heart sink. I didn’t know what was wrong, but I knew something was very wrong, just in a moment, that is how much I loved her and could feel her energy.
She refused to speak to me. I spent that entire night following her around the club, begging her to speak to me, to explain what was wrong. I was so devastated. I called her then boyfriend and he told me that she was upset because she believed I was the one who broke into her vehicle and stole from her. She believed that of me! I was shocked, sickened, and stupefied. For weeks, I tried to contact her. I left voicemails begging her to have a conversation with me. I asked her to have the police come arrest me and take me in for questioning. I was so hurt that she would ever think that I would do that to anyone, let alone her. There wasn’t a friend I had ever loved so much. Never has been a friend I supported so much. Never will be another friend that I will love like that.
She broke something in me. She never spoke to me, and we never had a conversation. It was BAM! No contact. Also, she told all of our mutual friends and worst of all, her parents and other family that had loved me like family since the day we met in 1982. She told everyone that I’d done this awful, criminal, horrible thing. I lost my best friend, and I lost the relationship with her family, as well. I cried over this for over 6 years. It was truly that devastating.
I am a very tender hearted person, and that will never change, but that experience and others since have made me so much stronger, more resilient, and now, when a friend does something that is hurtful and I’ve been betrayed, I just cut my loses and keep it moving. It’s self preservation. I’m leaving out details, as it is still painful and exhausting to explain this.
But yeah. People suck. I much prefer the company of animals.
I come back to various videos about Shannon from time to time, and it still feels strange each time I do. I’d subscribed to her channel before a lot of those self serving “I’m a ride or die friend” or “I will always hold myself accountable” videos came to be…basically before she’d become a fairly well known creator. I can’t say that I loved her content. I can’t even say that I agreed with much of her statements. She just had an interesting approach to how she “scripted” (or more likely, improvised) the dialogue within her videos. But, it became harder and harder to continue watching/listening to her videos. Mainly, it was due to how she seemed to be either 1) becoming the person she adamantly claimed she wasn’t, or 2) she was allowing the mask she wore to slip and who she really was all along was visible. And, to be honest, neither of the two were very attractive. I can’t say that “Ah-ha! I KNEW there was something wrong with this woman!” because that’s not really the truth. Her content just started to feel disingenuous She would claim to dislike people saying or doing certain things, and then all of the sudden she’s partaking in those very things herself. She stood there for all the world to see yelling from atop the precariously unstable pedestal she’d built for herself that this kettle or that kettle was black…and all the while she was the godd@mn pot. The only thing I can say for certain about how I felt was that it was uncomfortable for me to continue “supporting” her by watching her content. So, I backed away from her content until I just couldn’t even stand seeing thumbnails of her videos. I unsubbed and never went back. It’s just surreal to know that I, along with SO VERY MANY others, had unknowingly watched this creator braid a rope, knot it carefully and almost lovingly, and then savagely hang her reputation and the friendships she’d made until the kicking finally stopped. I don’t know that I’ve ever personally seen anyone hoist themselves by their own petard in such a brutal fashion prior to this.
The roses were a: "I'm such a nice person and I'm your friend"
She knew what was coming. I'll have to be honest her lovebombing of you in particular Giulia was what made me stop watching her.
A good friend can be a good friend without getting the whole internet involved
Exactly, and same here. It was just too much. Came across really disingenuous
I knew your silence wasn't you "signing off" on it. Wishing you health, healing and happiness. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I can’t believe that something that horrible and *that specific* happened to you twice. I’m at a loss of words. What each of these people, individually did to you was NOT OKAY. It was cruel, immoral and disgusting and you did not deserve these things happening to you.
Thank you for making a video and sorry that you were forced to make one, even though you were not ready to make a statement yet.