I've been fortunate enough to only be in the position of going hungry on rare occasions for a few days at most, but even that's enough to make sure you don't forget. The inability to concentrate. The inability to *rest*. Nothing to do but just... endure in a state of not-quite-pain until the money turns up in your account.
@@ecyor0 same here, I've been hungry sometimes, a week and half one time at most I think, but it's still seriously a painful feeling regardless. So exhausted and tired but you can't sleep because of the pangs in your stomach, the headaches, the nausea from being so empty for so long... This isn't the first time I've seen someone say they'd rather starve than get free food, and that is one of the most gross, entitled, "I've never been through a tragedy and judge other people for theirs" mindsets I've ever seen.
I've never "gone hungry", but when my mom first told me "i can't afford food right now, I'm working on getting a second job", that was enough to know. Just the IDEA of going hungry is enough to scare the shit out of you
as someone that grew up povertized in johannesburg south africa, living in a broken overrun home always on the verge of homelessness, stealing bread and flour to make milliepap to survive, sometimes only eating a couple of slices of bread a fucking day ... its very clear that person has probably *NEVER* actually gone hungry before
I've stopped eating on occasion due to poor mental health, it's a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I never lasted more than 24 hours without eating. Truly this person has probably never skipped a meal in their life if they think they can just not accept food.
>Conservatives argue for lower taxes >Taxes go down >Basic programs go to shit >Conservatives complain about the government not doing enough >Argue again for lower taxes
You can makes taxes go lower and instead of keeping the money for yourself use them for the upbringing of a country you are stupid and know nothing about economy
People like that guy piss me off so bad. My parents had to declare bankruptcy because my mom had a catastrophic injury and they didn't have insurance because the corporation my dad worked for closed down his plant and moved to Mexico. I have a chronic illness with no cure. There actually might be a cure, but-- because of the FDA being so badly funded and pharmaceutical companies only being concerned about profit-- it's been in clinical trials since fucking 2009. The only way to get it is to move to one of three locations in the US and pay $18,000 per year just for the medication. That's not counting doctor visits and blood work. Instead, I'll just suffer and probably die in the next 15 to 20 years. I'm 37.
@@stevonwhite8933 Yeah, I'd love to tell the POS about bootstraps. I worked my ass off in school, did what I was supposed to, and it was all for nothing. I wanted to be a literacy specialist and to teach college writing. Not going to happen as it is now.
@@stevonwhite8933 people like him say thing aren't fair constantly. Bring up student loan forgiveness "aw that's not fair" I tell them you got that right life isn't fair, this time it'll just be less fair for you.
Our healthcare system is so brutal. Really, all our systems are brutal and most of us are an injury, serious illness, or job loss away from financial hardship. Idk how people can pretend not to see that.
As a guy living in Finland, I can confirm we indeed live in a commie dystopia where the government doesn't let me die or starve. I would much rather not be able to afford rent or food while working a job.
I heard that in Finland the government forces you to have excellent public schools and free universities? 😨 What if my doctor tries to give me free insulin?! I’m scared just thinking about it!!
@@CharlieApples Indeed, and paying high taxes feels awful, when we actually get our money's worth back in services we all need eventually! I was in a car crash last year and I was brought to a hospital in an ambulance and it cost me about 16 euros! This awful socialist commie policy is so evil.
@@CharlieApples Yup, the Nordic Countries are a very scary place to live! We have hardcore competition on reaching the top of the "Happiness Index"! Yes, the name is a bit silly, as it doesn’t actually measure happiness, but instead it takes various parameters such as safety, health, life expectancy, income inequality, social justice, psychological well being, social support, basic needs, education, access to nature, etc., and measure these, and then give a collected score! At the moment Finland is in the lead, but they just got a new government this year, so they will probably be number two or three next year! Of course they have all the lakes and saunas going for them!
@@CharlieApples not only that but its illegal to make students pay for any schools and on top of that the student loans have a really low interest rate, on top of that the government gives free money to students. Finland is such a scary place to live i don't know how long i can live in this horribly communistic country for
Yeah, there's many that don't seem to understand that our level of propaganda is akin to Russia's with the only differences being the amendment allowing free speech and the variety of programs available, we can have programs that counteract the propaganda where Russia doesn't have such options.
> Conservatives argue for lower taxes > Conservative politicians "We'll lower taxes, (for the rich)" > Public programs go to shit > Conservatives complain > Conservatives then continue to argue for lower taxes > Conservative politicians "We'll lower taxes again, (for the rich)" > Public programs are even worse > Conservatives complain (Rinse and repeat)
I'm going to agree with hungarian eagle on ONE thing: I don't think it's fair to call ignorant or bigoted people "mentally ill". Plenty of mentally ill people are very smart and/or decent people, and it's very possible for a neurotypical person to be an ignorant asshole. TL;DR You can be an idiot without being mentally ill
Yeah i think it's extremely wack that conure is using that as an insult, even if its tongue in cheek. Like i thought we were past tryna stigmatize mental illness more
The richest country in the world CAN afford healthcare. But we chose to sell it on the open market. The middleman raises the prices. The Medicaid offices pay closer to the real price because the GOVERNMENT won't allow the pharmaceutical companies to gouge them. But they let them gouge us.
Somebody last Friday literally told me, that they thought the government isn't supposed to support the people. I was like, what, are they supposed to work against us? 😂😂😂
@@butwhyyyyyy F'ing sad! Hope you get rid of Orbán next time! You all deserve so much better - and right now, all that is happening is NATO allies and EU partners just getting more and more annoyed at Hungary… Seriously, wish you the best with kind regards from Scandinavia!
As a disabled veteran, privatizing the VA would probably end with me losing my benefits and becoming homeless or worse. That guy can stfu and leave my benefits, which I earned in blood and suffering, alone. I have not met a single veteran who supports privatizing the VA, even the ones who complain about the VA constantly. They rather have subpar free healthcare than some private corporate controlled insurance that will inevitably overcharge them and ruin their lives further. I have already been bent over the barrel of patriotism, I refuse to be bent over by corporations and by the GOP.
That is exactly what the GOP wants haha. Why do you think all these defense contractors are primarily Republican donors. As a veteran, if they take away the benefits I've earned and hand me over to some corporate insurance bullshit, I and my fellow veterans will revolt.
it kinda already is privatized. they contract to private companies and 60% of it isn't even accounted for. they're the only government agency to fail their audit lol
on the "communism has always failed" point they tried to make, I find it worthwhile to point out that every time a country has tried communism it has immediately been attacked, either overtly or covertly, by global capitalist powers and been forced to focus much of their economy towards militarization to the detriment of everything else to not just collapse.
on canadian healthcare: i'm canadian, and i've been dealing with a health issue that's left me unable to work since september of last year. this has been a strain on both me & my family since my family had been relying on me somewhat financially. the care here can be very slow, but honest to god i'm so grateful that i live here. money has been super tight and if we'd lived in the US i either wouldn't be able to afford care or we'd lose our house
Also Canadian, healthcare (from my experience) wasn't too slow, but I have heard some stories... having a slow system that takes care of everyone rather than one that leaves people in crippling debt is pretty cool though.
People bring up slow healthcare like it's a systemic issue when the elephant in the room is a matter of supply. More professionals, shorter waits. If it's actually paperwork problems then sure I agree we cut out some of the beaurocracy. If everyone in America had the money to pay for full treatment, the medical system would definitely be slowed down. People die for lack of treatment due to costs, not delays, but heaven forbid someone wealthy or powerful wait in line.
(American) My apendix exploded, I sat in the emergency room for 5 hours before being seen by anyone. When I was seen by a nurse I got accused of faking. A lady surgeon figured out what was going on right before she was supposed to get off and I was about to be sent home. They charged me $87,000 and some change to be lucky enough not to die and 24 hrs in the hospital. It was the worst pain ever. I had a baby via c section as a pain comparison which wasn't as bad. I did get drugs during the c section to be fair. You don't wanna know how big the bill after insurance was for having a kid lol -$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Why aren't people having kids?? It's too expensive to have them safely in a hospital. I'm not down for a dr free home birth which is popular in our area ....
I had to explain to a relative that while waiting for healthcare sucks and there are long waits in the UK Canada. It's better than never getting it because you can't afford it in accepting you will die years or decades earlier because of that.
im from finland and can say that health care isn't slow. 2 years ago i got hit by a car which broke my shoulder. when i went to the hospital i got to see the doctor in less then 20minutes and after that i had an xray immediately after that. in total i needed to wait 30minutes in total and it cost me around 40€. i also got 1600€ from the government afterwards
You had to pay for the X-rays? Did you get copies to hang up on the wall or something? Here in Denmark that would e public funded, unless you went to a Private Hospital!
@@gorillaguerillaDK i did but 40€ is nothing for the entire expenses of the treatment (thats the only thing is needed to pay for). and i got way more money back from the government
I know trans healthcare in Finland is quite bad. I think a trans person can be denied changing legal gender for something like getting depression (even if due to dysphoria).
@@Alex-cq1zr So the money from the government was just for your visit to the doctor? Or was it compensation for not being able to work for a while or something like that?
No matter what system of government you lived under your tax dollars will inevitably go to something you don't support, just like my tax dollars go to the military. That's a part of society. If you're morally opposed to taxation, stop paying taxes. You'll go to jail for tax evasion. Or you can admit the government collecting taxes is what gives money its value and allows widespread trade.
Yeah, these types of people are just morons who haven't thought through their beliefs at all. They just have shallow ideas that they run with. He also said he wants "small government" which in the libertarian sense means they don't want cops and tax collectors fucking with them. What this dude fails to realize is that in that society he'd be one of the first ones to get gunned down. In a society where the government doesn't maintain the peace some asshole like him is done for.
and conversely it's impossible to NOT benefit from tax revenue, unless you live in the woods by yourself and are completely self-sustaining or you're a billionaire.
The Vibe MF DOOM gave off the few times I saw him on tv or in interview, he would accept the rap battle challenge, and smile happily at you while you attempt to rap battle him, and he would just make you look way better than you actually were because he seems like a really nice guy. Maybe even rap poorly and let you win because he just wants to be friends.
The idea that small governments are somehow less corrupt or run better is a joke. The scale of it might be lower but there is plenty of corruption going on in local governments and there is way less scrutiny on them or ways to combat it, especially if you cut all federal or state agencies.
Somebody else mentioned in the comments how many governments with tiny budgets still manage to brutally oppress people, (and I mean, is not the local warlord the smallest unit of government?) and many large ones oversee relatively peaceful, libertine societies while having massive budgets and deficits.
Most of the times when they claim "small government", like "states rights", what they really mean is letting a governor do whatever he wants without helding any responsibility to the federal government.
You don't even need to cut any programs to cut military spending, just start actively monitoring where the money the government spends on that stuff goes. The whole idea of the "bigness" of a government is BS. South America proved this, with their incredibly austere governments still being able to brutally repress the population, while social democracies with massive deficits and budgets produce consistently better outcomes for their citizens.
Exactly this! The military itself has told congress that if they stop spending so much on vehicles that just rust away in boneyards, never used, (because the manufacturers said "they look cool and thus are totally needed trust us,") that like, they could reduce the budget, at least, or put that money into like anything else. As far as I know, the military people testifying to this weren't even arguing for that money to be spent on some other aspect of the military.
@@peppermintgal4302 I'm not even talking about that, a lot of contractors enjoy the same type of thing that hospitals get. They can just make up an amount of money and the client will just pay it. All you have to do is look at where the money is going and how much those things actually cost to make and sell, and a lot of the price will just vanish
How do republicans not understand that for a government to make a profit that would mean that they are Taking in more money then they are investing in keeping its citizens alive and well. Last I checked I spent money in Taxes To fix the roads And put out the fires not for that money to sit in a bank and never get spent on my needs
"Run it like a business." Cons think gov debt is bad. The fed debt is public surplus. What's bad is when that public surplus which should be thought of as investments in infrastructure, education, and medicine- gets privatized. Inflation is caused by wealth hoarding. It's a myth that inflation is caused by the fed printing too much money. Like supply and demand or The Holy Ghost oops i mean "The Invisible Hand" Economics is a thermodynamics engineering problem but Americans are brainwashed into thinking it's a morality problem.
I would much rather have no government and rather pay people directly for services, because the government is a thief that steals your wealth at gunpoint; it is what communists like to call their strawman of capitalism (wage slavery)
I think it’s good to highlight that all people are thought of under and benefit from progressive/socialist policies. Conservative policies tend to exclude someone (usually the economically disadvantaged) so appealing to conservatives’ own needs and wants is a good way to get many of them on board with left wing policies.
That is exactly what is happening with veterans. Many of the vets Ive known over the years that were conservative before Trump have slid more to the left because Republicans kept bringing up privatizing the VA. Don't mess with veterans benefits, it will backfire haha.
@@21forevergone that depends on whether they want to be insulting. Cause remember, a guy who drinks fruity drinks is a woman, but a trans woman is a man...somehow. Because something something we can always tell.
They would have an aneurysm when they see me. XX chromosomes, penis, definitely unable to conceive. They would have a field day just trying to understand me. By their logic I am both a woman but since I identify as a trans woman I am totally a man.
Pffft, hungarian-eagle has never heard of medical tourism. If anything, the Americans who have the means to pay for the trip save a lot of money in getting a medical procedure in another country, plane tickets and hotel stay and all. That says it all.
The funny thing is food is already heavily subsidized by the state, because it turns out growing food costs money. In order to make food production profitable while still allowing the proletariat access to food *sometimes* the state has to split the difference with its workers and pay farms and agricorps to produce. But profit motive amirite?
Here’s an idea, if the government didn’t take 40% of our pay through triple taxation (at the minimum the money gets taxed when the employer gets it then you then the person you pay for a good or service) then we would have enough to pay for it ourselves Not to mention high prices incentivize people to go to that profession increasing supply and driving down the cost.
@@RandomRothbardian So you're still pretending that your high school economics class granted you a full understanding of how the economy works? Brainlet take.
@@RandomRothbardian Small issue, if taxes are lowered the corporations will raise prices with the argument that the people have more untaxed income to spend on it, which improves nothing.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. For so many idiots, they feel that if we can't have a perfect version of something we shouldn't even try to improve it in any way.
If you're wondering about people in Russia fighting against the government, the indigenous (non-Russian) peoples of the region are working on this! There's Idel-Ural for instance (six indigenous republics in the middle of Russia, whose autonomy was progressively stolen by the central government)! Also the irony of the Hungarian guy supporting Russia when Russia was the one to crush both of your big revolutions (1848 and 1956)
Its real bro, our government sucks Putins cock like the country runs on cum. Like its actually insane how Orban cucked the entire country into believing what he does is for the good of the people even though these assholes steal so much money and have this circle of people that gets the tax money of the minimum wage worker who doesnt make enough money to live off of it.
Hungarian right-wingers are simps for Russia - not because of the past, but because of ideology! At least in Poland and Ukraine, most of the right-wingers despise Russia!
Because it isn’t free, the wealth has to come from somewhere or the person providing said healthcare is uncompensated for their work and might not be able to survive. The wealth will either come from voluntary transactions (aka free market capitalism) or theft (compulsory tax)
@@RandomRothbardian It's not a voluntary transaction because all the food is controlled by a very small group of corporations which try to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, you get to choose between 5 identical companies.
Actually, it's funny, as I was listening to you tear this person a new one, I decided to do 15 min of research to calculate the "effective" tax rate for someone in the US vs. Sweden. The first thing I stated is that the quality of outcome has to be equal (i.e. equal care, higher education, etc.). I then picked an electrical engineer as the test case (as there is good information about salaries for engineers on the web). I would also point out that I made the engineer the sole breadearner for a family of 4. Here is a brief summary of what I got: US: Salary: $ 100,000 / yr. Federal, State, Local, & Sales taxes: $ 20,800 / yr (average across US) Student Loans: $ 4,800 / yr Health Care: $ 26,500 / yr (insurance, copays, & deductables) Quality Schooling for children: $ 24,000 / yr Total "effective" tax rate: ~76 % Funds after "effective taxes": $ 24,250 Sweden Salary: $ 40,500 / yr (equivalent) Federal State, Local, & Sales taxes: $ 16,600 / yr Student Loans: $ 0 / yr Health Care: $ 0 / yr (insurance, copays, & deductables) Quality Schooling for children: $ 0 / yr Total "effective" tax rate: ~ 41 % Funds after "effective taxes": $ 24,000 (equivalent) Of course, this is a gross oversimplification, but I think the point is easy to figure out.
The RUclipsr named Shark3oZero has previously said that we are basically gonna have to drag people kicking and screaming into an America with a government that helps them. They are gonna hate getting healthcare insurance or being able to get a job without having their insurance coverage hostage.
bro said "Hunger is a choice" I have 23 cents in my bank account and im 1 1/2 weeks from pay day. all i have for food is rice, bread, butter and processed cheese. yeah bro i totally chose this.
I always wonder why these people who are so concerned about taxes being theft never make the connection that, by that logic, *profits are theft too*. It value you produce for an entity which decides to keep a certain amount of it. The difference is, when we pay taxes we get, like... Roads, and fire-fighters, and schools, and libraries, etc. etc. When a company takes their profits from our earnings, we're just paying for their yachts and vacation homes and stock-buybacks.
“You shouldn’t have to pay for basic necessities.” Especially when it’s so overproduced that it isn’t worth the price companies want you to pay for it.
37:10 oh my GOD I just discovered i've been living in a Fascist country all my life! Even if there are free elections, 4 different parties have been elected since I'm alive! Because I get free health care and studies, it has always been a Fascist country! NoOooOOooo! /s
@@CharlieKell yea that is true, but when it comes to the right with their debate lords at least there's someone on this side who can quickly come up with good enough and informative responses to the bs.
at a minimum conure is at about the same level I am where I'm just tired of their propagandized npc dialogue lines so we do a little trolling. the fallacy gotcha game is middle school behavior to me >.>
As somebody who's been in the Army for over a decade, I've seen the government pay $700 for a cheap plastic knob because of how contracts were in place. I think there is a way to cut costs there just fine without even hurting national defense.
Same here. I was, some of my friends have told me, an insufferable libertarian in high school. (Though I did hate corporations as much as I hated the government. I was just propagandized into thinking that breaking down government as much as possible would like, destroy the powerbase of corporations? Yeah don't ask me lol its been over a decade since I changed my mind on all that) Part of what broke me out of that was learning about the concept of the hydraulic empire, a profit motivated government that uses a city with sole access to all the water in a desert region to utterly control everyone else. Made me realize, of course tyranny and profit motive dovetail. I also eventually put two and two together to realize that profit motive doesn't require monopoly to be oppressive, war lords are also profit motivated and they don't always have monopolies over a region, (in fact, the lack of complete control is often why they go to war and become war lords!)
Truly showing how scary we, forcing people to get easier opportunities for education, healthcare and solidarity with fellow Americans. Also I live in Europe and its not really slow, if you have emergencies you will get a doctor. Also Europeans go to the doctor twice as often as Americans, because everyone (I live in Germany) take routine visits seriously. That there is that high demand is a good sign, that people care about their physical and mental health. One of the biggest problems in healthcare is that there still is a private option, so some people are not interested in improving the system. The only reason to go to the US is because of some high-risk operations that the EU doesn't allow, like for some cancer patients. Those people often need to crowdfund the treatment in the USA, because its not financed. Funnily East Germans pretty much seem to agree that the GDR was horrible, but good on schooling, welfare and healthcare. Which makes sense because they are the main industries where there is market failiure (should be noted that the GDR was a garbage authoritarian state, that was doomed to fail and that should not be a model in any way, outside of the mentioned areas, but people even remember its socialized system fondly).
Yeah most Americans use the free healthcare our military veterans get and base their entire view on free healthcare on that failing system. Our veterans get free healthcare for life but the doctors and clinics that they're allowed to go to are extremely underfunded and have small staffs. It's ironic that Republicans are the ones who will talk all day about how much they love the troops but then will turn around and defund their healthcare. They're hypocritical pieces of shit.
@@mrcocoloco7200 I have German nationality, have the life goal to get into US politics, like the Danish electoral system, love Brazilian campaign songs and support the president of Chile. As I said, Its complicated.
“You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”
People wanna talk about copium, but the US healthcare system brings out the hardest copes I have ever seen! Got into it with a costumer about our healthcare system vs. France (a nation we both visited). He tried telling me "Nothing in France is open in the middle of the day, because people in France don't like to work", and "they pay 50% of their paychecks into their healthcare system."... Dude, I've been to France... Nothing was arbitrarily closed in the middle of the day, and French citizens only pay 4% more for their healthcare taxes compared to us in the States. Here we pay 3% REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY HAVE INSURANCE!!! Republicans don't live in the real world...
Funny thing, when the US Gov started subsidizing the medical industry and making people certified in other countries have to go through the entire process of college again in the US to be able to practice they decreased supply of the available workforce. TLDR: the US gov caused the higher prices.
Not even to mention that the ussr had the highest qol increase of all human history as well as it going from a semi feudal agrarian society to a world super power that rivaled the US
@@TheSaxyCarrot This is actually quite true, just the enormous drop in numbers of famines happening per given unit of time was incredible. What Soviet Russia really struggled with was a few things, one was the development of tensions between agricultural workers and industrial workers, one was trying to control a bunch of Balkan states, and the last was the stagnation of the Soviet hierarchy as a bureaucratic class alienated from the people developed. That's my understanding, anyways.
@@peppermintgal4302There was also the Brezhnev-era mistake of overspending on the military to try and maintain parity with the US rather than just having it be enough that the US couldn't risk open conflict even if it would probably win eventually, and then spending the rest of that money in other parts of the economy
"A man is when penis" I guess anyone who had their dick cut off in an accident just isn't a man then? That's... not quite right..... That's kind-of like saying if I lost an arm I stop being a person. Turns out being 'a man' is a kind-of complicated topic with a lot of philosophy and bimodal biological stuff based on what you actually mean, and there just isn't a clear-cut answer for this stuff. Pretty much anything you can point to is going to have exceptions, flaws, and a lot of really dumb implications.
Reps defund everything INCLUDING free and reduced cost school lunches for poor and low income families! They are also defunding the EPA aka environmental protection agency!
Literally had a tooth infection that needed an extraction and if I didn’t treat it I would die and the only reason I got the tooth removed and am in the process of getting a fake one put in with an implant (cause it’s a front facing tooth so I can’t leave a gap unless I wanna look like a stereotypical hillbilly) is because my parents are paying for it and having me pay it back to them because I’m literally a jobless college student rn
I like how the guy says “we should have a small government; the government shouldn’t interfere with our lives” then he says “we should have less democracy” so…who wants to tell him that democracy is literally how “We the People” run our lives? Democracy is supposed to allow the people to choose what happens to them. And if we reduce or eliminate our democracy we essentially allow the government to have MORE control over us as they wouldn’t need the approval of the people to make policies
I love this debate and I'm trying so hard not to snort laugh while listening to this. This brightened my night. It's been a rough week and I think you for your honesty and bluntness against the troll.
2:40 Implying that they COULD have taken the city with better weapons and soldiers but... chose not to for some reason? And instead just threw 30,000 soldiers into a meatgrinder for 11 months to take a city that actually has little to no strategic value?
Linus from Linus Tech Tips had a great explanation on why taxing wealthy people is good and trickle down economics doesn’t work. Basically you pay taxes on profit and not gross income. If you get more of your profit takes away then you are incentivized to spend more gross profit on your business to make more money. By reducing taxes you just encourage people to hoard wealth and not actually out it back into the economy.
assuming chatter is young and there's hope - this method of slapping someone out of their stupidity on time is something i very much support. regardless, i wish i had someone like this to watch when i was a kid, would have spared me some brain worms for sure
I was myself an insufferable libertarian in high school. The more innocent side of it is a reflexive dislike of totalitarianism, but libertarianism does not understand totalitarianism and is easily manipulated *by* it. (This does not make libertarianism innocent, though --- I was indoctrinated into some hateful religious shit, and it sounds like this Hungarian Eagle kid had something going on with that.)
Here in Scandinavia where I live, we not only get low rent student loans, but also public funded student grants, and we have tuition free higher education, and subsidies for rent for low income - we do have high taxes, BUT, we also get living wages! (You can literally survive on a halftime job at McD) Oh, and we also have universal healthcare, except for dentist and physiotherapy, unless you have some neurological disorder or similar, then you can get public funded physiotherapy as well….
@Magnus Well, in the country I currently live in, we do have issues, but a lot of it has to do with lack of staff, we need more nurses, doctors, and for various other core functions. Also, there’s been opened up for Private Hospitals getting some of the patients and receiving public funds! The problem is, there’s a fixed price a hospital receive, (private or public), and the money follows the patient. Now there’s only an X amount of doctors, so many of them both work private and public. The private sector pays better - and private hospitals can pick the easiest patients, and get just as much for let’s say a knee surgery, as the public hospital would get. This leaves the more complicated patients, (same knee surgery, but this patient has diabetes, severely obese, and has Chronic Obstructive Lung Disease), to the public sector, and these patients take more time, and cost more to operate. This practice has been undermining the healthcare sector! Also, as I mentioned, we lack healthcare professionals, and so does neighboring Norway, but Norway can attract Danish nurses because it pays better in Norway, and even better if a Nurse wanna go to Greenland and work 5-6 months a year. Now we try to recruit nurses and doctors elsewhere, but we have very high requirements, and the system dealing with applications is way too rigid, but we've been promised the politicians will look into this! Otherwise, the administrative sides is fairly efficient - yes, sometimes someone F up, and creates a scandal, but you know, it’s humans, and we try to find quick solutions when people make mistakes! But even the administrative errors when they happen, are often related to the lack of staff…. So if you know any well educated nurses, doctors, bio analysts, etc., who won’t mind learning a new language, (most Danes speak at least some English and will happily do so, but it’s still a requirement that newcomers who wanna work in our public sector take courses in Danish), then please feel free to send then our way…. 😜
OMFG this infuriates me. Im canadian, and unless youre talking about a specialist, its not slow. In hospitals its not slow, at least not if it cant wait. The thing these people dont understand is triage? A vital system that keeps hospitals efficient. Yeah, you might have to wait 5 hours to just get an xray for a broken wrist, but at least the woman who got hit by a car doesnt have to wait until im done. Im fine with waiting, because i dont have life threatening injuries. Others do. Canadian healthcare isnt slow, its just using triage. The only reason its slow is because other people are dying. Have some empathy ffs.
This person perfectly embodies Conservatives/Republicans mindset. They love exploitative hierarchy as long as they have someone to look down on. I can't tell if its narcissism or self hate.
@@kap1618 for sure, just not so sure hate is the healthiest way to heal our divides even if it's the response that comes naturally. idk that alternatives will work excepting that they're the best chance we have at breaking the cycles which bind us.
I love how a health care system is a left or right issue in the US. In my European country, actual factual fascists are on the rise, and yet they dare not touch health care because everybody knows how good that shit is.
I love how out of touch these kinda guys expect u to be, like boss your not in the Tim Pool super chat, how was this gonna go down any better than this? did you even wake up today?
Also, like, a government offering help through taxes is 1) the whole point and 2) prevents the pothole a lot of people fall into where we have zero connections as people. Humans always have and always will rely on connections to other humans in better positions or with more knowledge to help them. That’s the whole point as a social species.
This is how I'm gonna handle these degenerates from now on. I don't have the patience to spell out reality for them, if they're too egotistical to admit they're wrong and that they've been mislead, they're not even worth wasting breath on if you ask me. GG handling this one, Comrade Conure.
@@isdrakon9802 they live in their swamp of dumb, descending there in order to convince them of anything that is not their dumb is pointless and only harmful to anyone who tries, they should leave it themselves and for that we could leave a path for them in form of easy to understand content that slowly lures them out of dumb. little sir sic reference here, if you know you know :D
17:15 Doesn’t Conure confuse communism for anarchism? Communism isn’t really moneyless, it just gives the working class freedom over it. Also, not every country pursuing a communist path have failed doing it (Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara 1983 or Bolivia 2006 under Evo Morales for example), it’s just that the examples we were taught in school (USSR, China) weren’t the best representatives.
Communism structures things around the idea that workers should be making the decisions as a class. (For example, when Soviet Russia was first established, the "Soviets" from which it got its name were "worker councils," which working class people could be elected into by other working class people, though generally to be elected up into higher Soviets, one needed to be in a lower one, kind of like a bracketed tournament. that bracketed tournament nature is where the problems set in, it allowed the production of yet another career politician class and it produced yet another strict hierarchy. There have been anarchocommunist governments, though, like the one that existed in Ukraine prior to being invaded during one of the world wars that had established, under the anarchist black army, soviets that I guess weren't tiered --- I'm not so familiar with those, but I have heard that the Ukrainian soviet system that existed at that time was successful in many metrics, including reduced racial tensions as it eased the conflicts between industrial workers and agricultural workers that often dovetailed with racial strife.) Conure is promoting alternative forms of government that do have a strong eye towards working class rights, but don't necessarily do that. What they advocate for is a society that provides sufficient welfare and safety nets that, if Capitalist, could compensate for a lot of the social issues that plague Capitalist countries and cause the development of castes and stagnation, if I understand their position correctly. If I had to guess, Conure's position is probably more in the realm of social democrats or mainstream european socialist parties, neither of which are communist in nature. And in fact, Communists *have* had conflicts, even violent ones, with parties within these two spaces before.
"The government should not give us loans to go to school." I agree, I think college should be affordable, and public ones should be fully covered by government funds.
_"the gov has so many regulations on medicine and drugs making it extremely difficult to get treatment"_ No... in the UK, the government set the prices on critical drugs, so they could affordably procure supply for the entire country, and that's feasible because they didn't have to compete with private medical providers... at time of writing, sure, waitlists are extremely slow in England, but that's because the Conservatives cut funding for public health spending and we left the EU, so it's difficult to reach a sufficient level of employment for medical staff... as Scotland has a degree of independence in their governance, their version of the NHS stayed much more effective. Going further, France has _dramatically_ higher taxes than the UK, and as a result, a dramatically more extensive healthcare system, to the point where families will have a nurse personally assigned for them, for the first couple of years after giving birth, to ensure they can be effectively cared for. So the result of being taxed more, is more robust public services.
Raised min wages is a short term side step tho without long term security for workers to make sure they keep up with inflation we’d need a constant percentage system for min wage
First time seeing Conure arguing against somebody live and wow you dominated the submissive con. Well done, all the insults flew so naturally and without really rising voice. Like everything you say should feel very obvious (which it is) and it felt like explaining to a child that fire is hot.
The thing about government funded health care is that you don’t have to use it, like if you want you can still go private and get better and/or faster care the public care is for situations or people where that isn’t an option
@@cookiescraftscats Good thing Jesus isn’t president then. Jokes aside, that’s absolutely not what Jesus wanted. Jesus was not against taxes. Jesus even said to give everything you have to the needy and follow Him.
@@ThatBunniBoi Know your comment is older but I'm sure he didn't know he was lying. These people that argue with the scripture to such an extreme degree all to often have NO idea what it says and as such just make stuff up. In order for them to know that they're lying they would be required to read the bible in the first place.
@@timbo3286 For something as important as the holy book that dictates the major narrative of the world and how to save your soul from eternal damnation, you’d think Christians would take it more seriously and… you know… actually read the book.
they literally teach that taxes help the economy in capitalist economics classes. the idea that economics supports low taxes, or even capitalism itself is a fucking joke.
A fully public healthcare can have lethal wait times. The best system is having private options as well as public healthcare which is what I'm pretty sure us Aussies have. Our system isn't perfect but the systems in the US or the UK sound like actual dystopian hell. Also if we have to deal with capitalism a UBI would even the class divide some and hopefully abolish homelessness.
this person claiming Canadians go to the USA for healthcare because Canadian healthcare is bad... person... US healthcare is not affordable for most Canadians so those who do get US healthcare are looking for specific care that we do not have the means to provide (which are quite rare and maybe even recently researched) or they have way more money than the average and can't be bothered to wait for the public system to get back to them and feel too fancy for the Canadian private healthcare I guess.
Also Conservative governments routinely under-fund healthcare in order to force a crisis to justify privatization. Alberta used the pandemic as an opportunity to under-fund doctor's clinics and push people to Telus telehealth.
This whole “convo” reminds me of my Fox-watching grandmother trying to tell me about the signs and symptoms of drugs that she got from Hannity or whoever, not realizing that I was coked off my tits and running said drugs to pay rent 🙄🙄🙄
That "canada healthcare is shit and slow" argument is so tired. It's not shit not slow, people come from canada to america for healthcare for specialized care because the US just has more specialized care doctors, which makes sense when you look at the population difference between the US and Canada
Kinda Venting here but My families food stamps got cut and im pissed hearing that guy said hed ratger starve then get free food and im also pissed that everyone feels bad for me when i tell them about my surcemstances when they should be pissed at the goverment for cutting them and im done feeling guilty for not having the best diet when i cant afford alot of produce >:(
If you dont want government to ensure well being, then what is the point of a government? To point guns outside? You don't need a centralized government to be armed against the outside world, and having a government with ONLY guns and no limits anywhere else can turn on you because the people with the REAL power, with capital, will just buy the state to enforce only their interests. We tried laissez faire government, it was the Gilded Age, and we had a depression not long after.
"I would rather starve than have free food"
-person who's probably never gone hungry for a long time
I've been fortunate enough to only be in the position of going hungry on rare occasions for a few days at most, but even that's enough to make sure you don't forget. The inability to concentrate. The inability to *rest*. Nothing to do but just... endure in a state of not-quite-pain until the money turns up in your account.
@@ecyor0 same here, I've been hungry sometimes, a week and half one time at most I think, but it's still seriously a painful feeling regardless. So exhausted and tired but you can't sleep because of the pangs in your stomach, the headaches, the nausea from being so empty for so long... This isn't the first time I've seen someone say they'd rather starve than get free food, and that is one of the most gross, entitled, "I've never been through a tragedy and judge other people for theirs" mindsets I've ever seen.
I've never "gone hungry", but when my mom first told me "i can't afford food right now, I'm working on getting a second job", that was enough to know. Just the IDEA of going hungry is enough to scare the shit out of you
as someone that grew up povertized in johannesburg south africa, living in a broken overrun home always on the verge of homelessness, stealing bread and flour to make milliepap to survive, sometimes only eating a couple of slices of bread a fucking day ... its very clear that person has probably *NEVER* actually gone hungry before
I've stopped eating on occasion due to poor mental health, it's a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I never lasted more than 24 hours without eating. Truly this person has probably never skipped a meal in their life if they think they can just not accept food.
"Are u a man"
"Are you with the government?"
The only correct response
im gonna start using this too
"You shouldn't be given free food"
You're 14, you ONLY eat free food.
rofl its almost as bad as tate teens
@@grimsage5809guarantee the venn diagram is a circle
@@grimsage5809 there's no such thing as teens who align with andrew tate, you're somehow confusing teens with elementary schoolers.
As some1 who turned 14 a day ago im not like dat
@@escapefr0mslenderhell yeah, educated youth!
>Conservatives argue for lower taxes
>Taxes go down
>Basic programs go to shit
>Conservatives complain about the government not doing enough
>Argue again for lower taxes
When are we gonna call conservatism, the mental disease that it is?
Pretty much
>Vote for Conservative politicians that say "smaller government"
You can makes taxes go lower and instead of keeping the money for yourself use them for the upbringing of a country you are stupid and know nothing about economy
@@keanuxu5435 all small government means is more power in fewer hands
People like that guy piss me off so bad. My parents had to declare bankruptcy because my mom had a catastrophic injury and they didn't have insurance because the corporation my dad worked for closed down his plant and moved to Mexico.
I have a chronic illness with no cure. There actually might be a cure, but-- because of the FDA being so badly funded and pharmaceutical companies only being concerned about profit-- it's been in clinical trials since fucking 2009. The only way to get it is to move to one of three locations in the US and pay $18,000 per year just for the medication. That's not counting doctor visits and blood work. Instead, I'll just suffer and probably die in the next 15 to 20 years. I'm 37.
The pos would just tell you, “muh bootstraps”. Fkn hate people like that.
@@stevonwhite8933 Yeah, I'd love to tell the POS about bootstraps. I worked my ass off in school, did what I was supposed to, and it was all for nothing. I wanted to be a literacy specialist and to teach college writing. Not going to happen as it is now.
@@angeladonoghue9010 And then after that, he’ll tell you “Life’s not fair”.
Their politics are/and cause nothing but suffering. Complete cretins.
@@stevonwhite8933 people like him say thing aren't fair constantly. Bring up student loan forgiveness "aw that's not fair" I tell them you got that right life isn't fair, this time it'll just be less fair for you.
Our healthcare system is so brutal. Really, all our systems are brutal and most of us are an injury, serious illness, or job loss away from financial hardship. Idk how people can pretend not to see that.
Im autistic but this guy made me feel neurotypical, thanks ❤
Shouldn’t your profile name be “HewwoFwowence”?
@@mj91212 why the FUCK did I just lose my shit to this simple ass comment 😂😂😂
the crazy thing is, that guy was probably 1000% Neurotypical. Completely neurotypical peeps be scary yo.
@@leviadragon99 Actually this
@@leviadragon99 Crippling Allism Spectrum Disorder. Uncommon but far from rare.
As a guy living in Finland, I can confirm we indeed live in a commie dystopia where the government doesn't let me die or starve. I would much rather not be able to afford rent or food while working a job.
I heard that in Finland the government forces you to have excellent public schools and free universities? 😨 What if my doctor tries to give me free insulin?! I’m scared just thinking about it!!
@@CharlieApples Indeed, and paying high taxes feels awful, when we actually get our money's worth back in services we all need eventually! I was in a car crash last year and I was brought to a hospital in an ambulance and it cost me about 16 euros! This awful socialist commie policy is so evil.
@@CharlieApples
Yup, the Nordic Countries are a very scary place to live!
We have hardcore competition on reaching the top of the "Happiness Index"!
Yes, the name is a bit silly, as it doesn’t actually measure happiness, but instead it takes various parameters such as safety, health, life expectancy, income inequality, social justice, psychological well being, social support, basic needs, education, access to nature, etc., and measure these, and then give a collected score!
At the moment Finland is in the lead, but they just got a new government this year, so they will probably be number two or three next year! Of course they have all the lakes and saunas going for them!
@@gorillaguerillaDK now don't get so hopeful we will be on top for the next few hundred years atleast. except if humanity does die in around 60 years
@@CharlieApples not only that but its illegal to make students pay for any schools and on top of that the student loans have a really low interest rate, on top of that the government gives free money to students. Finland is such a scary place to live i don't know how long i can live in this horribly communistic country for
"I don't watch Russian propaganda, I watch FOX news" Oh boy, who wants to tell em.
yeah i basically thought the same thing
fun fact! fox “news” isn’t even classified as news.
it’s entertainment.
so it can be reasonably called a propaganda station.
Yeah, there's many that don't seem to understand that our level of propaganda is akin to Russia's with the only differences being the amendment allowing free speech and the variety of programs available, we can have programs that counteract the propaganda where Russia doesn't have such options.
nobody tell em. the ignorance is comedic gold
@@missmillion3864 It's not like the ignorance isn't willful
Nobody will be able to tell em
> Conservatives argue for lower taxes
> Conservative politicians "We'll lower taxes, (for the rich)"
> Public programs go to shit
> Conservatives complain
> Conservatives then continue to argue for lower taxes
> Conservative politicians "We'll lower taxes again, (for the rich)"
> Public programs are even worse
> Conservatives complain
(Rinse and repeat)
So true. Also, that profile name 💀
Right-wing libertarianism probably needs an entry in the DSM
@@BradleyZS Being trans isn't in the DSM. Gender dysphoria is. They're not the same thing.
@@BradleyZS You've never actually read the DSM, have you?
@@BradleyZS Not all transpeople have gender dysphoria, which is itself caused by trauma in the first place.
@@BradleyZS You not being convinced of someone else's gender identity doesn't matter.
@@BradleyZSJust as well these things are the preserve of medical professionals rather than know-nothing internet dipshits like yourself:)
That dude was wild. He should apologize to the trees for wasting the oxygen they make.
You don't understand, the trees are forcing him to intake oxygen he hasn't earned.
God, is "oxygen" an analogy for a living wage, in this scenario, or free health care?
Yesn't I guess
@@dont_take_it_personal just a funny silly little goof
@@CharlieKell
Indeed. It's just hard to tell when conservatives want to be so unhappy.
But he can grow, hopefully,. and learn. He is bloody 15
"I would rather starve" is cute rhetoric until you actually starve.
Please stop comparing them to a middle schooler. It’s degrading to middle schoolers.
Ok, I'd compare them to preschooler's. That's because I was that dumb, at preschool.
Judging by your username you want to bang Jacob.
Eh I was kind of a dumbfuck in middle school but I was also being influenced by gamergate so make of that what you will
@@Fleet-Admiral-Harrison as a preschool teacher please don't insult my students.
As a middleschooler, I'd like to disagree; a lot of people, that are a year older than me, but still in my class, are THAT or even more stupid
I'm going to agree with hungarian eagle on ONE thing: I don't think it's fair to call ignorant or bigoted people "mentally ill". Plenty of mentally ill people are very smart and/or decent people, and it's very possible for a neurotypical person to be an ignorant asshole.
TL;DR You can be an idiot without being mentally ill
Right? He's just an idiot, calling him mentally ill is giving him an excuse
based and kindpilled
Yeah i think it's extremely wack that conure is using that as an insult, even if its tongue in cheek. Like i thought we were past tryna stigmatize mental illness more
@@Shmethanyeah that kinda stinks..
Meanwhile you know that guy calls people "retarded"
He doesnt believe in the right to vote? Have conservatives leap frogged from nationalism straight to Monarchism?
Unironically yes. Many want Trump to be king
Sadly, yes. They’d rather a mouthpiece for their asshat rhetoric than actual democracy if it means their actions get to be justified.
In Monarchical states you can still vote like in the UK. If you are talking about a absolute monarchy then forgive me.
@Aero3435 I'm referring to an absolute monarchy. Constitutional monarchies are just Oligarchies/ aristocracies with fancier names.
This has been a thing we have dealt with since the revolutionary war.
If there's one thing I love more than anything else, it's bullying idiots in Twitch chat
It's even more fun when they enter the secret hideout by complete accident. *TUMBLR* 😈👾👹👾💀
The richest country in the world CAN afford healthcare. But we chose to sell it on the open market. The middleman raises the prices. The Medicaid offices pay closer to the real price because the GOVERNMENT won't allow the pharmaceutical companies to gouge them. But they let them gouge us.
Funny thing, Russia have free healthcare but it's so awful most people hate it
Somebody last Friday literally told me, that they thought the government isn't supposed to support the people. I was like, what, are they supposed to work against us? 😂😂😂
As a hungarian I apologize on the behalf of this guy
Bet he voted for Orbán
@@gorillaguerillaDK for fucking sure, bro is the type of guy to clap at his speaches
@@butwhyyyyyy
F'ing sad!
Hope you get rid of Orbán next time!
You all deserve so much better - and right now, all that is happening is NATO allies and EU partners just getting more and more annoyed at Hungary…
Seriously, wish you the best with kind regards from Scandinavia!
Between him and jontron hungary isn't sending their best
erdogan is worse :(
As a disabled veteran, privatizing the VA would probably end with me losing my benefits and becoming homeless or worse. That guy can stfu and leave my benefits, which I earned in blood and suffering, alone. I have not met a single veteran who supports privatizing the VA, even the ones who complain about the VA constantly. They rather have subpar free healthcare than some private corporate controlled insurance that will inevitably overcharge them and ruin their lives further. I have already been bent over the barrel of patriotism, I refuse to be bent over by corporations and by the GOP.
Privatizing the VA is like saying we need to privatize the military lol
tshhh fr wtff hahaha
That is exactly what the GOP wants haha. Why do you think all these defense contractors are primarily Republican donors. As a veteran, if they take away the benefits I've earned and hand me over to some corporate insurance bullshit, I and my fellow veterans will revolt.
Uhhhh fuck uhhhh haha that’s definitely not happening to a pretty significant degree
It pretty much is and does what private interests want for power and to steal resources
it kinda already is privatized. they contract to private companies and 60% of it isn't even accounted for.
they're the only government agency to fail their audit lol
on the "communism has always failed" point they tried to make, I find it worthwhile to point out that every time a country has tried communism it has immediately been attacked, either overtly or covertly, by global capitalist powers and been forced to focus much of their economy towards militarization to the detriment of everything else to not just collapse.
“wow great communism you got over there. would be a shame if a coup happened”
@@dangerousd1312 Or place a forever embargo
Russia tried doing capitalism and democracy in the 90's look how that went.
Oh thank God almighty someone said it. I usually have to be the one to point it out because nobody else does. Thank you
"That's why capitalism is -" :economy crashes: "the only-" :economy crashes: "effective form of-" :economy crashes:
why is conure so much prettier than me. literally crying.
Fr
Ideal male physique
Excellent fashion sense
Hrt helps
Makeup, lots and lots of Makeup.
"I dont watch propaganda! I just watch fox news"
on canadian healthcare: i'm canadian, and i've been dealing with a health issue that's left me unable to work since september of last year. this has been a strain on both me & my family since my family had been relying on me somewhat financially.
the care here can be very slow, but honest to god i'm so grateful that i live here. money has been super tight and if we'd lived in the US i either wouldn't be able to afford care or we'd lose our house
That's awful for you and your family. Hope you get to feeling better! Stay safe out there! ❤
Also Canadian,
healthcare (from my experience) wasn't too slow, but I have heard some stories... having a slow system that takes care of everyone rather than one that leaves people in crippling debt is pretty cool though.
People bring up slow healthcare like it's a systemic issue when the elephant in the room is a matter of supply. More professionals, shorter waits. If it's actually paperwork problems then sure I agree we cut out some of the beaurocracy.
If everyone in America had the money to pay for full treatment, the medical system would definitely be slowed down.
People die for lack of treatment due to costs, not delays, but heaven forbid someone wealthy or powerful wait in line.
(American) My apendix exploded, I sat in the emergency room for 5 hours before being seen by anyone. When I was seen by a nurse I got accused of faking. A lady surgeon figured out what was going on right before she was supposed to get off and I was about to be sent home. They charged me $87,000 and some change to be lucky enough not to die and 24 hrs in the hospital. It was the worst pain ever. I had a baby via c section as a pain comparison which wasn't as bad. I did get drugs during the c section to be fair. You don't wanna know how big the bill after insurance was for having a kid lol -$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Why aren't people having kids??
It's too expensive to have them safely in a hospital. I'm not down for a dr free home birth which is popular in our area ....
I had to explain to a relative that while waiting for healthcare sucks and there are long waits in the UK Canada. It's better than never getting it because you can't afford it in accepting you will die years or decades earlier because of that.
im from finland and can say that health care isn't slow. 2 years ago i got hit by a car which broke my shoulder. when i went to the hospital i got to see the doctor in less then 20minutes and after that i had an xray immediately after that. in total i needed to wait 30minutes in total and it cost me around 40€. i also got 1600€ from the government afterwards
You had to pay for the X-rays?
Did you get copies to hang up on the wall or something?
Here in Denmark that would e public funded, unless you went to a Private Hospital!
@@gorillaguerillaDK i did but 40€ is nothing for the entire expenses of the treatment (thats the only thing is needed to pay for). and i got way more money back from the government
I know trans healthcare in Finland is quite bad. I think a trans person can be denied changing legal gender for something like getting depression (even if due to dysphoria).
@@Alex-cq1zr yeah its bad finland also only has only 2 genders legally so u will always be a man or a woman in the legal sense.
@@Alex-cq1zr
So the money from the government was just for your visit to the doctor?
Or was it compensation for not being able to work for a while or something like that?
RIP Hungarian Eagle. Homeboy sacrificed his reputation for 40minutes of fame
Rest in piss. S
for 40 minutes of pure content. Bro should be regarded as a legend for giving us this.
Truly a guy to be remembered for nothing more than the exact duration of this video
No matter what system of government you lived under your tax dollars will inevitably go to something you don't support, just like my tax dollars go to the military. That's a part of society.
If you're morally opposed to taxation, stop paying taxes. You'll go to jail for tax evasion.
Or you can admit the government collecting taxes is what gives money its value and allows widespread trade.
Yeah, these types of people are just morons who haven't thought through their beliefs at all. They just have shallow ideas that they run with. He also said he wants "small government" which in the libertarian sense means they don't want cops and tax collectors fucking with them. What this dude fails to realize is that in that society he'd be one of the first ones to get gunned down. In a society where the government doesn't maintain the peace some asshole like him is done for.
B-b-but, money is our entire reason to live I thought?😰-Confused “Libertarian”
@@stevonwhite8933gotta love strawmen from ignorance.
and conversely it's impossible to NOT benefit from tax revenue, unless you live in the woods by yourself and are completely self-sustaining or you're a billionaire.
It seems like he didn't realize that you weren't insulting him because you had no arguments. But because his arguments were dumb and easy to dismantle
Conservatives aren't capable of understanding that.
@@cjgroves4429 Conservatives aren't capable of understanding
"list 10 policies" no buddy how about you explain why he needs to lists policies
Trying to debate Conure, as a conservative, is like trying to challenge MF DOOM to a rap battle as a novice rapper: You got no shot ☠
Can’t wait for the new Conure single to drop
*MF DOOM
Who
The Vibe MF DOOM gave off the few times I saw him on tv or in interview, he would accept the rap battle challenge, and smile happily at you while you attempt to rap battle him, and he would just make you look way better than you actually were because he seems like a really nice guy. Maybe even rap poorly and let you win because he just wants to be friends.
Even though he's dead, I'm still pretty sure DOOM would beat me in a rap battle
The idea that small governments are somehow less corrupt or run better is a joke. The scale of it might be lower but there is plenty of corruption going on in local governments and there is way less scrutiny on them or ways to combat it, especially if you cut all federal or state agencies.
Somebody else mentioned in the comments how many governments with tiny budgets still manage to brutally oppress people, (and I mean, is not the local warlord the smallest unit of government?) and many large ones oversee relatively peaceful, libertine societies while having massive budgets and deficits.
Most of the times when they claim "small government", like "states rights", what they really mean is letting a governor do whatever he wants without helding any responsibility to the federal government.
You don't even need to cut any programs to cut military spending, just start actively monitoring where the money the government spends on that stuff goes.
The whole idea of the "bigness" of a government is BS. South America proved this, with their incredibly austere governments still being able to brutally repress the population, while social democracies with massive deficits and budgets produce consistently better outcomes for their citizens.
Exactly this! The military itself has told congress that if they stop spending so much on vehicles that just rust away in boneyards, never used, (because the manufacturers said "they look cool and thus are totally needed trust us,") that like, they could reduce the budget, at least, or put that money into like anything else. As far as I know, the military people testifying to this weren't even arguing for that money to be spent on some other aspect of the military.
@@peppermintgal4302 I'm not even talking about that, a lot of contractors enjoy the same type of thing that hospitals get. They can just make up an amount of money and the client will just pay it.
All you have to do is look at where the money is going and how much those things actually cost to make and sell, and a lot of the price will just vanish
"Do yOu eVen knOw what fAsCism is?"
Gets slapped in the face with the literal definition of facism.
Way to go, Conure!
I really think it's unfair for Conure to call the chatter mentally ill. Mentally ill people are smarter than that.
I am one of them. I have brain damage from being in combat, and I am still smarter than this dude. 😂
I mean, there are levels of mental illness. Conservatism is one of the worst.
There are a lot of levels.
can confirm, i’ve been mentally falling down the stairs since 2020-ish and i’m smart enough to see how much clown makeup this guy has on
People with Down syndrome don’t give 2 fuqs about what other pple do in their live and usualy just wanna have fun lol so checks out
How do republicans not understand that for a government to make a profit that would mean that they are Taking in more money then they are investing in keeping its citizens alive and well. Last I checked I spent money in Taxes To fix the roads And put out the fires not for that money to sit in a bank and never get spent on my needs
"Run it like a business."
Cons think gov debt is bad. The fed debt is public surplus. What's bad is when that public surplus which should be thought of as investments in infrastructure, education, and medicine- gets privatized.
Inflation is caused by wealth hoarding. It's a myth that inflation is caused by the fed printing too much money. Like supply and demand or The Holy Ghost oops i mean "The Invisible Hand"
Economics is a thermodynamics engineering problem but Americans are brainwashed into thinking it's a morality problem.
I would much rather have no government and rather pay people directly for services, because the government is a thief that steals your wealth at gunpoint; it is what communists like to call their strawman of capitalism (wage slavery)
I think it’s good to highlight that all people are thought of under and benefit from progressive/socialist policies. Conservative policies tend to exclude someone (usually the economically disadvantaged) so appealing to conservatives’ own needs and wants is a good way to get many of them on board with left wing policies.
That is exactly what is happening with veterans. Many of the vets Ive known over the years that were conservative before Trump have slid more to the left because Republicans kept bringing up privatizing the VA. Don't mess with veterans benefits, it will backfire haha.
“I will resist having my basic survival needs provided to me because I would rather have to fight for them day to day” is such a take
we need a mental illness for this
Saying "a man is when penis" is like saying "a horse is when brown"
Are dapple gray horses not horses because they arent brown?
Of course not! They're secretly unicorns!
(sorry lol)
Transphobes not denying science is impossible... denying science often requires not being intellectually inclined ig.
I always wondered if these people truly believe that a man must have a penis, then what happens to a man who doesn't have one?
@@21forevergone that depends on whether they want to be insulting. Cause remember, a guy who drinks fruity drinks is a woman, but a trans woman is a man...somehow. Because something something we can always tell.
They would have an aneurysm when they see me. XX chromosomes, penis, definitely unable to conceive. They would have a field day just trying to understand me. By their logic I am both a woman but since I identify as a trans woman I am totally a man.
donkWalk emote won this debate.
Pffft, hungarian-eagle has never heard of medical tourism. If anything, the Americans who have the means to pay for the trip save a lot of money in getting a medical procedure in another country, plane tickets and hotel stay and all. That says it all.
The funny thing is food is already heavily subsidized by the state, because it turns out growing food costs money. In order to make food production profitable while still allowing the proletariat access to food *sometimes* the state has to split the difference with its workers and pay farms and agricorps to produce.
But profit motive amirite?
Here’s an idea, if the government didn’t take 40% of our pay through triple taxation (at the minimum the money gets taxed when the employer gets it then you then the person you pay for a good or service) then we would have enough to pay for it ourselves
Not to mention high prices incentivize people to go to that profession increasing supply and driving down the cost.
@@RandomRothbardian So you're still pretending that your high school economics class granted you a full understanding of how the economy works? Brainlet take.
@@RandomRothbardian Small issue, if taxes are lowered the corporations will raise prices with the argument that the people have more untaxed income to spend on it, which improves nothing.
@@RandomRothbardian You don't understand how taxes work do you?
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
For so many idiots, they feel that if we can't have a perfect version of something we shouldn't even try to improve it in any way.
If you're wondering about people in Russia fighting against the government, the indigenous (non-Russian) peoples of the region are working on this! There's Idel-Ural for instance (six indigenous republics in the middle of Russia, whose autonomy was progressively stolen by the central government)!
Also the irony of the Hungarian guy supporting Russia when Russia was the one to crush both of your big revolutions (1848 and 1956)
Its real bro, our government sucks Putins cock like the country runs on cum. Like its actually insane how Orban cucked the entire country into believing what he does is for the good of the people even though these assholes steal so much money and have this circle of people that gets the tax money of the minimum wage worker who doesnt make enough money to live off of it.
Hungarian right-wingers are simps for Russia - not because of the past, but because of ideology!
At least in Poland and Ukraine, most of the right-wingers despise Russia!
Especially since Russian foreign policy hasn't changed since.
the "taxes=theft" mindset is so hilarious, like god forbid you have to spend even a dollar to help the other people in your country
Why are people against free food and healthcare 😭
Because they don't have morals.
they are selfish that they have to pay for someones food and health
Because it isn’t free, the wealth has to come from somewhere or the person providing said healthcare is uncompensated for their work and might not be able to survive.
The wealth will either come from voluntary transactions (aka free market capitalism) or theft (compulsory tax)
Dude even if its not free what you rather want money or not having ppl die@@RandomRothbardian
@@RandomRothbardian It's not a voluntary transaction because all the food is controlled by a very small group of corporations which try to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, you get to choose between 5 identical companies.
"your political ideology has the depth of a kitty pool" stop i nearly died
Why would you make a pool for cats?
@@metal_pipe9764testing
@@reclusiarch6524 because they won't use it
@@metal_pipe9764 They will when I demonstrate who has the thumbs and throw them in.
Actually, it's funny, as I was listening to you tear this person a new one, I decided to do 15 min of research to calculate the "effective" tax rate for someone in the US vs. Sweden.
The first thing I stated is that the quality of outcome has to be equal (i.e. equal care, higher education, etc.). I then picked an electrical engineer as the test case (as there is good information about salaries for engineers on the web). I would also point out that I made the engineer the sole breadearner for a family of 4.
Here is a brief summary of what I got:
US:
Salary: $ 100,000 / yr.
Federal, State, Local, & Sales taxes: $ 20,800 / yr (average across US)
Student Loans: $ 4,800 / yr
Health Care: $ 26,500 / yr (insurance, copays, & deductables)
Quality Schooling for children: $ 24,000 / yr
Total "effective" tax rate: ~76 %
Funds after "effective taxes": $ 24,250
Sweden
Salary: $ 40,500 / yr (equivalent)
Federal State, Local, & Sales taxes: $ 16,600 / yr
Student Loans: $ 0 / yr
Health Care: $ 0 / yr (insurance, copays, & deductables)
Quality Schooling for children: $ 0 / yr
Total "effective" tax rate: ~ 41 %
Funds after "effective taxes": $ 24,000 (equivalent)
Of course, this is a gross oversimplification, but I think the point is easy to figure out.
The RUclipsr named Shark3oZero has previously said that we are basically gonna have to drag people kicking and screaming into an America with a government that helps them. They are gonna hate getting healthcare insurance or being able to get a job without having their insurance coverage hostage.
bro said "Hunger is a choice" I have 23 cents in my bank account and im 1 1/2 weeks from pay day. all i have for food is rice, bread, butter and processed cheese. yeah bro i totally chose this.
I always wonder why these people who are so concerned about taxes being theft never make the connection that, by that logic, *profits are theft too*. It value you produce for an entity which decides to keep a certain amount of it. The difference is, when we pay taxes we get, like... Roads, and fire-fighters, and schools, and libraries, etc. etc. When a company takes their profits from our earnings, we're just paying for their yachts and vacation homes and stock-buybacks.
“You shouldn’t have to pay for basic necessities.”
Especially when it’s so overproduced that it isn’t worth the price companies want you to pay for it.
37:10 oh my GOD I just discovered i've been living in a Fascist country all my life! Even if there are free elections, 4 different parties have been elected since I'm alive! Because I get free health care and studies, it has always been a Fascist country! NoOooOOooo! /s
I genuinely think Conure is the best debater in the lefttube scene right now.
Good, yes. But the best to me is The Majority Report. They don't debate much over there, but there are some clips of some.
I don't think debates lead to much, but it sure is fun to watch.
@@CharlieKell yea that is true, but when it comes to the right with their debate lords at least there's someone on this side who can quickly come up with good enough and informative responses to the bs.
at a minimum conure is at about the same level I am where I'm just tired of their propagandized npc dialogue lines so we do a little trolling. the fallacy gotcha game is middle school behavior to me >.>
@@grimsage5809The right respond to power, and bullying is a power move.
As somebody who's been in the Army for over a decade, I've seen the government pay $700 for a cheap plastic knob because of how contracts were in place. I think there is a way to cut costs there just fine without even hurting national defense.
Just forced me to remember I used to think like this.
Man.
Same here. I was, some of my friends have told me, an insufferable libertarian in high school. (Though I did hate corporations as much as I hated the government. I was just propagandized into thinking that breaking down government as much as possible would like, destroy the powerbase of corporations? Yeah don't ask me lol its been over a decade since I changed my mind on all that)
Part of what broke me out of that was learning about the concept of the hydraulic empire, a profit motivated government that uses a city with sole access to all the water in a desert region to utterly control everyone else. Made me realize, of course tyranny and profit motive dovetail. I also eventually put two and two together to realize that profit motive doesn't require monopoly to be oppressive, war lords are also profit motivated and they don't always have monopolies over a region, (in fact, the lack of complete control is often why they go to war and become war lords!)
Truly showing how scary we, forcing people to get easier opportunities for education, healthcare and solidarity with fellow Americans.
Also I live in Europe and its not really slow, if you have emergencies you will get a doctor. Also Europeans go to the doctor twice as often as Americans, because everyone (I live in Germany) take routine visits seriously. That there is that high demand is a good sign, that people care about their physical and mental health. One of the biggest problems in healthcare is that there still is a private option, so some people are not interested in improving the system.
The only reason to go to the US is because of some high-risk operations that the EU doesn't allow, like for some cancer patients. Those people often need to crowdfund the treatment in the USA, because its not financed.
Funnily East Germans pretty much seem to agree that the GDR was horrible, but good on schooling, welfare and healthcare. Which makes sense because they are the main industries where there is market failiure (should be noted that the GDR was a garbage authoritarian state, that was doomed to fail and that should not be a model in any way, outside of the mentioned areas, but people even remember its socialized system fondly).
Thank you for the information German 🇩🇪 Citizen. Love ❤️ from a Dominican 🇩🇴🇺🇸 American
Yeah most Americans use the free healthcare our military veterans get and base their entire view on free healthcare on that failing system. Our veterans get free healthcare for life but the doctors and clinics that they're allowed to go to are extremely underfunded and have small staffs. It's ironic that Republicans are the ones who will talk all day about how much they love the troops but then will turn around and defund their healthcare. They're hypocritical pieces of shit.
@@mrcocoloco7200 Tbh I don't really consider myself German. Its complicated.
@@DGAMINGDE What? So what nationality are you?
@@mrcocoloco7200 I have German nationality, have the life goal to get into US politics, like the Danish electoral system, love Brazilian campaign songs and support the president of Chile.
As I said, Its complicated.
“You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”
Yes, that is why both conservatives and democrats are statist.
"hungarian eagle" now thats a name that instantly paints a person's politics on their face
I would RIOT if the VA went private
People wanna talk about copium, but the US healthcare system brings out the hardest copes I have ever seen! Got into it with a costumer about our healthcare system vs. France (a nation we both visited). He tried telling me "Nothing in France is open in the middle of the day, because people in France don't like to work", and "they pay 50% of their paychecks into their healthcare system."... Dude, I've been to France... Nothing was arbitrarily closed in the middle of the day, and French citizens only pay 4% more for their healthcare taxes compared to us in the States. Here we pay 3% REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY HAVE INSURANCE!!!
Republicans don't live in the real world...
Funny thing, when the US Gov started subsidizing the medical industry and making people certified in other countries have to go through the entire process of college again in the US to be able to practice they decreased supply of the available workforce.
TLDR: the US gov caused the higher prices.
Don't you just love when someone's whole personality is 'have contrarian opinion to everything you say'? It makes them look SO smart, you know.
omfg that guy made me die, communism never was implemented, at best it was socialism
Not even to mention that the ussr had the highest qol increase of all human history as well as it going from a semi feudal agrarian society to a world super power that rivaled the US
And it didn't last long before the CIA did a little coup
@@TheSaxyCarrot This is actually quite true, just the enormous drop in numbers of famines happening per given unit of time was incredible. What Soviet Russia really struggled with was a few things, one was the development of tensions between agricultural workers and industrial workers, one was trying to control a bunch of Balkan states, and the last was the stagnation of the Soviet hierarchy as a bureaucratic class alienated from the people developed. That's my understanding, anyways.
@@peppermintgal4302There was also the Brezhnev-era mistake of overspending on the military to try and maintain parity with the US rather than just having it be enough that the US couldn't risk open conflict even if it would probably win eventually, and then spending the rest of that money in other parts of the economy
Considering that the only definition that works with that is utopian (requires the success of the system to be considered communist)
"A man is when penis"
I guess anyone who had their dick cut off in an accident just isn't a man then? That's... not quite right..... That's kind-of like saying if I lost an arm I stop being a person.
Turns out being 'a man' is a kind-of complicated topic with a lot of philosophy and bimodal biological stuff based on what you actually mean, and there just isn't a clear-cut answer for this stuff. Pretty much anything you can point to is going to have exceptions, flaws, and a lot of really dumb implications.
If you Ballin, you a man ⚽⚾🏀🏈🏐
Republicans defund the FDA?
Guys what the actual hell. How can you live in a country like this?! How can you live like this?
Reps defund everything INCLUDING free and reduced cost school lunches for poor and low income families! They are also defunding the EPA aka environmental protection agency!
Literally had a tooth infection that needed an extraction and if I didn’t treat it I would die and the only reason I got the tooth removed and am in the process of getting a fake one put in with an implant (cause it’s a front facing tooth so I can’t leave a gap unless I wanna look like a stereotypical hillbilly) is because my parents are paying for it and having me pay it back to them because I’m literally a jobless college student rn
I like how the guy says “we should have a small government; the government shouldn’t interfere with our lives” then he says “we should have less democracy” so…who wants to tell him that democracy is literally how “We the People” run our lives? Democracy is supposed to allow the people to choose what happens to them. And if we reduce or eliminate our democracy we essentially allow the government to have MORE control over us as they wouldn’t need the approval of the people to make policies
I love this debate and I'm trying so hard not to snort laugh while listening to this. This brightened my night. It's been a rough week and I think you for your honesty and bluntness against the troll.
2:40 Implying that they COULD have taken the city with better weapons and soldiers but... chose not to for some reason? And instead just threw 30,000 soldiers into a meatgrinder for 11 months to take a city that actually has little to no strategic value?
I mean it wouldn't be the first time that happened
Linus from Linus Tech Tips had a great explanation on why taxing wealthy people is good and trickle down economics doesn’t work.
Basically you pay taxes on profit and not gross income. If you get more of your profit takes away then you are incentivized to spend more gross profit on your business to make more money. By reducing taxes you just encourage people to hoard wealth and not actually out it back into the economy.
Conure is definitely Debate Bro material and I think that would be based af.
assuming chatter is young and there's hope - this method of slapping someone out of their stupidity on time is something i very much support. regardless, i wish i had someone like this to watch when i was a kid, would have spared me some brain worms for sure
I was myself an insufferable libertarian in high school. The more innocent side of it is a reflexive dislike of totalitarianism, but libertarianism does not understand totalitarianism and is easily manipulated *by* it. (This does not make libertarianism innocent, though --- I was indoctrinated into some hateful religious shit, and it sounds like this Hungarian Eagle kid had something going on with that.)
Here in Scandinavia where I live, we not only get low rent student loans, but also public funded student grants, and we have tuition free higher education, and subsidies for rent for low income - we do have high taxes, BUT, we also get living wages!
(You can literally survive on a halftime job at McD)
Oh, and we also have universal healthcare, except for dentist and physiotherapy, unless you have some neurological disorder or similar, then you can get public funded physiotherapy as well….
@Magnus
Well, in the country I currently live in, we do have issues, but a lot of it has to do with lack of staff, we need more nurses, doctors, and for various other core functions.
Also, there’s been opened up for Private Hospitals getting some of the patients and receiving public funds!
The problem is, there’s a fixed price a hospital receive, (private or public), and the money follows the patient.
Now there’s only an X amount of doctors, so many of them both work private and public.
The private sector pays better - and private hospitals can pick the easiest patients, and get just as much for let’s say a knee surgery, as the public hospital would get.
This leaves the more complicated patients, (same knee surgery, but this patient has diabetes, severely obese, and has Chronic Obstructive Lung Disease), to the public sector, and these patients take more time, and cost more to operate.
This practice has been undermining the healthcare sector!
Also, as I mentioned, we lack healthcare professionals, and so does neighboring Norway, but Norway can attract Danish nurses because it pays better in Norway, and even better if a Nurse wanna go to Greenland and work 5-6 months a year.
Now we try to recruit nurses and doctors elsewhere, but we have very high requirements, and the system dealing with applications is way too rigid, but we've been promised the politicians will look into this!
Otherwise, the administrative sides is fairly efficient - yes, sometimes someone F up, and creates a scandal, but you know, it’s humans, and we try to find quick solutions when people make mistakes!
But even the administrative errors when they happen, are often related to the lack of staff….
So if you know any well educated nurses, doctors, bio analysts, etc., who won’t mind learning a new language, (most Danes speak at least some English and will happily do so, but it’s still a requirement that newcomers who wanna work in our public sector take courses in Danish), then please feel free to send then our way…. 😜
OMFG this infuriates me. Im canadian, and unless youre talking about a specialist, its not slow. In hospitals its not slow, at least not if it cant wait. The thing these people dont understand is triage? A vital system that keeps hospitals efficient. Yeah, you might have to wait 5 hours to just get an xray for a broken wrist, but at least the woman who got hit by a car doesnt have to wait until im done. Im fine with waiting, because i dont have life threatening injuries. Others do. Canadian healthcare isnt slow, its just using triage. The only reason its slow is because other people are dying. Have some empathy ffs.
that chatter is gonna mald so hard when he finds out he can literally just become amish.
This person perfectly embodies Conservatives/Republicans mindset. They love exploitative hierarchy as long as they have someone to look down on. I can't tell if its narcissism or self hate.
trauma type response imo
@@grimsage5809that makes me hate them more.
@@kap1618 for sure, just not so sure hate is the healthiest way to heal our divides even if it's the response that comes naturally. idk that alternatives will work excepting that they're the best chance we have at breaking the cycles which bind us.
I love how a health care system is a left or right issue in the US. In my European country, actual factual fascists are on the rise, and yet they dare not touch health care because everybody knows how good that shit is.
Man, I wish Conure would bully me like this.
I love how out of touch these kinda guys expect u to be, like boss your not in the Tim Pool super chat, how was this gonna go down any better than this? did you even wake up today?
Also, like, a government offering help through taxes is 1) the whole point and 2) prevents the pothole a lot of people fall into where we have zero connections as people. Humans always have and always will rely on connections to other humans in better positions or with more knowledge to help them. That’s the whole point as a social species.
Im glad you exist. This was great and healed my spirit. Thank you.
This is how I'm gonna handle these degenerates from now on. I don't have the patience to spell out reality for them, if they're too egotistical to admit they're wrong and that they've been mislead, they're not even worth wasting breath on if you ask me. GG handling this one, Comrade Conure.
I've pretty much given up, I can't deal with their shit anymore
@@isdrakon9802 they live in their swamp of dumb, descending there in order to convince them of anything that is not their dumb is pointless and only harmful to anyone who tries, they should leave it themselves and for that we could leave a path for them in form of easy to understand content that slowly lures them out of dumb.
little sir sic reference here, if you know you know :D
17:15 Doesn’t Conure confuse communism for anarchism? Communism isn’t really moneyless, it just gives the working class freedom over it. Also, not every country pursuing a communist path have failed doing it (Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara 1983 or Bolivia 2006 under Evo Morales for example), it’s just that the examples we were taught in school (USSR, China) weren’t the best representatives.
Communism structures things around the idea that workers should be making the decisions as a class. (For example, when Soviet Russia was first established, the "Soviets" from which it got its name were "worker councils," which working class people could be elected into by other working class people, though generally to be elected up into higher Soviets, one needed to be in a lower one, kind of like a bracketed tournament. that bracketed tournament nature is where the problems set in, it allowed the production of yet another career politician class and it produced yet another strict hierarchy. There have been anarchocommunist governments, though, like the one that existed in Ukraine prior to being invaded during one of the world wars that had established, under the anarchist black army, soviets that I guess weren't tiered --- I'm not so familiar with those, but I have heard that the Ukrainian soviet system that existed at that time was successful in many metrics, including reduced racial tensions as it eased the conflicts between industrial workers and agricultural workers that often dovetailed with racial strife.)
Conure is promoting alternative forms of government that do have a strong eye towards working class rights, but don't necessarily do that. What they advocate for is a society that provides sufficient welfare and safety nets that, if Capitalist, could compensate for a lot of the social issues that plague Capitalist countries and cause the development of castes and stagnation, if I understand their position correctly. If I had to guess, Conure's position is probably more in the realm of social democrats or mainstream european socialist parties, neither of which are communist in nature. And in fact, Communists *have* had conflicts, even violent ones, with parties within these two spaces before.
"The government should not give us loans to go to school."
I agree, I think college should be affordable, and public ones should be fully covered by government funds.
_"the gov has so many regulations on medicine and drugs making it extremely difficult to get treatment"_
No... in the UK, the government set the prices on critical drugs, so they could affordably procure supply for the entire country, and that's feasible because they didn't have to compete with private medical providers... at time of writing, sure, waitlists are extremely slow in England, but that's because the Conservatives cut funding for public health spending and we left the EU, so it's difficult to reach a sufficient level of employment for medical staff... as Scotland has a degree of independence in their governance, their version of the NHS stayed much more effective. Going further, France has _dramatically_ higher taxes than the UK, and as a result, a dramatically more extensive healthcare system, to the point where families will have a nurse personally assigned for them, for the first couple of years after giving birth, to ensure they can be effectively cared for. So the result of being taxed more, is more robust public services.
Raised min wages is a short term side step tho without long term security for workers to make sure they keep up with inflation we’d need a constant percentage system for min wage
First time seeing Conure arguing against somebody live and wow you dominated the submissive con. Well done, all the insults flew so naturally and without really rising voice. Like everything you say should feel very obvious (which it is) and it felt like explaining to a child that fire is hot.
Ah the downward spiral of an off handed comment turning into thanksgiving dinner level arguing
The thing about government funded health care is that you don’t have to use it, like if you want you can still go private and get better and/or faster care the public care is for situations or people where that isn’t an option
Jesus wants you to EARN your health. The parable of the Financially-Responsible Samaritan lays it out clearly.
@@cookiescraftscats Good thing Jesus isn’t president then. Jokes aside, that’s absolutely not what Jesus wanted. Jesus was not against taxes. Jesus even said to give everything you have to the needy and follow Him.
He deleted because he knew full well he was lying about what the scripture says.
@@ThatBunniBoi Know your comment is older but I'm sure he didn't know he was lying. These people that argue with the scripture to such an extreme degree all to often have NO idea what it says and as such just make stuff up. In order for them to know that they're lying they would be required to read the bible in the first place.
@@timbo3286 For something as important as the holy book that dictates the major narrative of the world and how to save your soul from eternal damnation, you’d think Christians would take it more seriously and… you know… actually read the book.
28:18 even if you keep the defense spending, you can cut corporate welfare. It's one of the largest Republican drains on the budget.
they literally teach that taxes help the economy in capitalist economics classes. the idea that economics supports low taxes, or even capitalism itself is a fucking joke.
A fully public healthcare can have lethal wait times. The best system is having private options as well as public healthcare which is what I'm pretty sure us Aussies have. Our system isn't perfect but the systems in the US or the UK sound like actual dystopian hell. Also if we have to deal with capitalism a UBI would even the class divide some and hopefully abolish homelessness.
this person claiming Canadians go to the USA for healthcare because Canadian healthcare is bad... person... US healthcare is not affordable for most Canadians so those who do get US healthcare are looking for specific care that we do not have the means to provide (which are quite rare and maybe even recently researched) or they have way more money than the average and can't be bothered to wait for the public system to get back to them and feel too fancy for the Canadian private healthcare I guess.
Also Conservative governments routinely under-fund healthcare in order to force a crisis to justify privatization. Alberta used the pandemic as an opportunity to under-fund doctor's clinics and push people to Telus telehealth.
This whole “convo” reminds me of my Fox-watching grandmother trying to tell me about the signs and symptoms of drugs that she got from Hannity or whoever, not realizing that I was coked off my tits and running said drugs to pay rent 🙄🙄🙄
That "canada healthcare is shit and slow" argument is so tired. It's not shit not slow, people come from canada to america for healthcare for specialized care because the US just has more specialized care doctors, which makes sense when you look at the population difference between the US and Canada
Imagine wanting to take away free lunches for children like come on man. Vote blue!
Kinda Venting here but My families food stamps got cut and im pissed hearing that guy said hed ratger starve then get free food and im also pissed that everyone feels bad for me when i tell them about my surcemstances when they should be pissed at the goverment for cutting them and im done feeling guilty for not having the best diet when i cant afford alot of produce >:(
If you dont want government to ensure well being, then what is the point of a government? To point guns outside? You don't need a centralized government to be armed against the outside world, and having a government with ONLY guns and no limits anywhere else can turn on you because the people with the REAL power, with capital, will just buy the state to enforce only their interests.
We tried laissez faire government, it was the Gilded Age, and we had a depression not long after.
22:45 privatized healthcare still exists in Canada to skip waits (no clue if they are gonna go into that)
As a mentally ill person, I can guarantee we do not claim him
I can literally think of Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, PRC and DPRK off the top of my head, and the last two barely even qualify as "communist"
To this day Cuba flexes on the US constantly in their responses to foreign crises
Those countries are socialists
PRC is authoritarian government, free market
DPRK is just an aristocracy