You can access that StarWheel by aiming your screwdriver directly through the large hole of the Hub. I get better and quicker response when I use a needle-nose vice grip to remove the springs. On the back plate of the brakes unit is a slit with a rectangular rubber plug / or not, remove this plug to adjust the StarWheel from behind the back plate when you can't reach the Starwheel from the front/ outside of the brakes unit Great video !
When I do drum brake shoes, I cover the brake shoe surface with masking tape prior to install. When I'm all finished, I remove the masking tape. No dirt residue on the shoe surface! No BRAKLEEN needed.
Keep your springs and shoes laid out in order to use like a diagram to make sure u get it back together right. You'll find some cars are not so obvious. Like others said pull the retainers off first stretch the shoes around the wheel cylinder and watch the springs fall out.
You did it the worst way possible! Ticked me off and took up a ton of my time until I watched a different video showing all you had to do is remove the bottom spring and the whole thing comes off as one and you can then disassemble it!
Thanks car part kings! We appreciate the parts that you provided for us for this video, without it, none of this would've happened. Again, thank you for your support!
Got the big nasty spring out and back in with just a small flathead screwdriver. Make sure the screwdriver can fit into the hole the spring goes in so as you pull it both go in. Then use another screwdriver to hold the spring while you yoink the one out
Thanks been helpfull, but i do have a problem, when settimg everything back together i have the cylinder kind of stuck, when pressing the brake it's always the same cylinder to go out causing the cylinder itself to come out and leak...any suggestion ?
if you use two vise grips on the back cover against the pads, it will lock the shoes in place and make very easy to remove and install that spring at the top.
Haynes video on this shows a shop cloth being forced in the grove of the backer plate and the shoe using a screw driver. This helps to restrict it's movement when the spring is removed or installed. This works very well. Also using vise grip needle nose on the upper return spring try grasping it on the short hook side. I found this to be easier as the slot is more visible. Relieving tension by backing off the star nut is also very helpful. The first side took a long time as it was a learning process. The other side was very straight forward and these tips were the reason why.
if you need to use a bolt to help remove the drum, I believe they're 12mm - the same size as the bolts that hold the seats in place in the interior, which can come handy and save you a trip to a store
this is a pretty good video, but I recommend getting the hardware kit along with the pads, it includes springs, the horse shoe shaped clips and some other parts, but just make sure you're careful about what you throw away, cause it does not come with the adjusters or the arms for the e-brake lines
I have a 99 Honda Civic ex manual. Had wheel cylinder replaced on Sunday. After it was done it ran faster. Someone said I had brake drag , which I believe because it was making a roaring sound before and the big bolt that holds the brake shoe down popped off before. It was loud af. That was before replacing it, but it was good Sunday. I drove it yesterday and now I hear the roaring sound in that rear drivers side tire that had new wheel cylinder. The spring popped off but I can’t find it. But now my ebrake is loose af now. He only bled tht tire and one other one but I forget which one . If I didn’t mention the spring popping off tht holds the metal bar it did but I can’t find it now. He didn’t lube anything either. What did he do wrong ?
amazing how similar the set up is as in an ancient 64 type 2 vw, or even a 70's ford truck. the axle is diff for sure. but man. simple. the fronts on the honda are whipped out with a clamp.
My retaining clips fell out from trying to use the 2 bolt method to remove drums but it happens that brakes were engaged or there's rust keeping the shoe from disengaging. What can I do to take it off? Aside from cutting the whole drum which I might end up doing bc I'm replacing them.
Fasted there’s a hole where you can look through. Behind the hole is the star adjuster, where you use a flat head screw driver to go up or down to adjust the shoe going out (pushing against the drum) or pulling in (disengaging the drum).
@@NutzAboutBolts I tried adjusting it but no luck when I pull on the drum the shoes come with it. The only thing that keeps it from coming is that e brake connection thing
came here to see where you used grease.. because i only used antiseize and didn't do a very good job when i put the drums back together a month ago. making noises i don't like to hear. looks like i have a drum reassembly in my future. prolly tomorrow. btw i always enjoyed your honda videos. is that old civic hx still running good?
5speedhonda yes, the Honda Civic is driving very smooth. We'll be doing the axle replacement video soon though, the axles making noise haha. Other than that, it's a reliable vehicle.
Okay you're full of crap you did not get that horseshoe pin out in 5 minutes like that I'm out here for a half an hour now and I cannot get it off I'm about to get a cutting tool
6/4/2023. Just got a Honda civic DX and I’m figuring this stuff out hopefully it’s not too difficult I need it tomorrow might be fu****
God I forgot all about doing drums...I used to do this back in the 70's....Thank God for disk brakes.
You can access that StarWheel by aiming your screwdriver directly through the large hole of the Hub. I get better and quicker response when I use a needle-nose vice grip to remove the springs. On the back plate of the brakes unit is a slit with a rectangular rubber plug / or not, remove this plug to adjust the StarWheel from behind the back plate when you can't reach the Starwheel from the front/ outside of the brakes unit Great video !
+Sam yeah that'll work too :)
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When I do drum brake shoes, I cover the brake shoe surface with masking tape prior to install. When I'm all finished, I remove the masking tape. No dirt residue on the shoe surface! No BRAKLEEN needed.
William Miller q
Thats a good tip ima have to start doin that thanks
take shoes hold down pins out 1st. , or back off the adjuster to loosen the shoes enough to take spring off. i just dod this job on my 08 civic.
Thank You. Helped me out tremendously on my 99 Civic EX. Thanks for the tips!
You can use small vise grips to grab the springs and remove them. One person can do it with out too much difficulty.
true.
Keep your springs and shoes laid out in order to use like a diagram to make sure u get it back together right. You'll find some cars are not so obvious. Like others said pull the retainers off first stretch the shoes around the wheel cylinder and watch the springs fall out.
You did it the worst way possible! Ticked me off and took up a ton of my time until I watched a different video showing all you had to do is remove the bottom spring and the whole thing comes off as one and you can then disassemble it!
Nice video guys - glad we could help with the parts!
Thanks car part kings! We appreciate the parts that you provided for us for this video, without it, none of this would've happened. Again, thank you for your support!
Got the big nasty spring out and back in with just a small flathead screwdriver. Make sure the screwdriver can fit into the hole the spring goes in so as you pull it both go in. Then use another screwdriver to hold the spring while you yoink the one out
what size bolt is used on the brake drum to remove it?
M8 x 1.25
is he learning as he is going?! 😂
Thanks been helpfull, but i do have a problem, when settimg everything back together i have the cylinder kind of stuck, when pressing the brake it's always the same cylinder to go out causing the cylinder itself to come out and leak...any suggestion ?
if you use two vise grips on the back cover against the pads, it will lock the shoes in place and make very easy to remove and install that spring at the top.
Haynes video on this shows a shop cloth being forced in the grove of the backer plate and the shoe using a screw driver. This helps to restrict it's movement when the spring is removed or installed. This works very well. Also using vise grip needle nose on the upper return spring try grasping it on the short hook side. I found this to be easier as the slot is more visible. Relieving tension by backing off the star nut is also very helpful.
The first side took a long time as it was a learning process. The other side was very straight forward and these tips were the reason why.
Did you opened the brake fluid reservoir
That way you don't have to wrestle with the cilinder backing up
Nope
if you need to use a bolt to help remove the drum, I believe they're 12mm - the same size as the bolts that hold the seats in place in the interior, which can come handy and save you a trip to a store
Christopher Hoying thatz a great tip brother been there
Christopher Hoying thanks
this is a pretty good video, but I recommend getting the hardware kit along with the pads, it includes springs, the horse shoe shaped clips and some other parts, but just make sure you're careful about what you throw away, cause it does not come with the adjusters or the arms for the e-brake lines
Touché
I have a 99 Honda Civic ex manual. Had wheel cylinder replaced on Sunday. After it was done it ran faster. Someone said I had brake drag , which I believe because it was making a roaring sound before and the big bolt that holds the brake shoe down popped off before. It was loud af. That was before replacing it, but it was good Sunday. I drove it yesterday and now I hear the roaring sound in that rear drivers side tire that had new wheel cylinder. The spring popped off but I can’t find it. But now my ebrake is loose af now. He only bled tht tire and one other one but I forget which one . If I didn’t mention the spring popping off tht holds the metal bar it did but I can’t find it now. He didn’t lube anything either. What did he do wrong ?
amazing how similar the set up is as in an ancient 64 type 2 vw, or even a 70's ford truck. the axle is diff for sure. but man. simple. the fronts on the honda are whipped out with a clamp.
At the end when your adjusting, what are you feeling for? The wheel should have no spin?
I didn’t replace drums and ones won’t go In. Am I doing something wrong
Does the Honda have a way to losing the brake from the outside so you can remove the drum easier?
thank you for this video. we are about to get it started :-)
Lisa Shelton np! gl!
What’s that orange screwdrive tool called
My retaining clips fell out from trying to use the 2 bolt method to remove drums but it happens that brakes were engaged or there's rust keeping the shoe from disengaging. What can I do to take it off? Aside from cutting the whole drum which I might end up doing bc I'm replacing them.
Fasted there’s a hole where you can look through. Behind the hole is the star adjuster, where you use a flat head screw driver to go up or down to adjust the shoe going out (pushing against the drum) or pulling in (disengaging the drum).
Fasted for this drum with no hole. Try using a rubber mallet and hitting it to see if it comes off
@@NutzAboutBolts I tried adjusting it but no luck when I pull on the drum the shoes come with it. The only thing that keeps it from coming is that e brake connection thing
Fasted the shoes attached with the clip. You can pry the clip off of the ebrake cable to remove it
@@NutzAboutBolts The one that looks like a horseshoe?
There is proper procedure how to do this job easy and quik....
These dudes have no clue how.
Great job guys.
Thanks Jim!
can you explain how to use the return spring tool???
you can use a vice grip, it'll be the same thing.
came here to see where you used grease.. because i only used antiseize and didn't do a very good job when i put the drums back together a month ago. making noises i don't like to hear. looks like i have a drum reassembly in my future. prolly tomorrow. btw i always enjoyed your honda videos. is that old civic hx still running good?
5speedhonda yes, the Honda Civic is driving very smooth. We'll be doing the axle replacement video soon though, the axles making noise haha. Other than that, it's a reliable vehicle.
your vids are a great help brother.
Kevin Godwin thanks! :)
Please ID the “special spring tool clamped down onto the spring” (brake adjuster spring). Where can it be purchased?
Just use a vice grip and pull.
usually advanced auto parts or car quest have those special tools. autozone be wake lol.
Great video thanks
I've never had a drum just slide off the axle flange.
And you don’t use anti-seize you use high temp brake lube
If you look at the can it actually was brake lube, idk if that makes it high temp but it was not just anti seize
So much easier to take the spindle off it requires no tools it slides off
Does anyone know what the thing is behind the brakes? Like the thing that the brake cover goes over
mrfruitsnacks21 backing plate
That what the screw looking thing is for you turn it loose
Gracias amigo, apreciate your help.
Bro, use jack stands
Everyone’s has to learn
2:27 software goes wrong lmao 😂 I’m deaddddddd
I have a 98 hx.hx models are rare
What you did as a two man job needed a third person so the video wouldn't feature a wonderful view of your helpers elbow!
????(whats up with subconise messgaes? (those flashing picture of ur logo
He said 1996 in Title but said 97 in vid
1996-2000 is the 6th gen civic model years. This means 1997 is applicable
Okay you're full of crap you did not get that horseshoe pin out in 5 minutes like that I'm out here for a half an hour now and I cannot get it off I'm about to get a cutting tool
great job
+amjad amj thanks!