Giant race engine into a Bush Plane 😳13 Liters goes into Scrappy build # 29
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So stoked! One step closer, can't wait to fly together!
Looking forward to that footage.
Can't wait to see Scrappy in the air with the Flying Cowboys. My brother flies a 182 (his bird is Yellow and called Sandy) out of Reno. Not exactly a bush plane, but if you run into him, tell him is big brother asked you say hello and make him an honorary Flying Cowboy. He just retired, so I'm sure he'll be spending more time at the hangar and in the air.
Can't wait to watch you guys fly together!
Trent: You'll be eating "Scrappy' " dust!
Boys never grow up with their toys they just get more expensive 😜😂
My granddad was one of, if not the, first pilots in Utah. He went to California around 105 years ago to become a pilot. He flew mail in a biplane in the twenties and was the piper dealer in the Rocky Mountain region. I wish that he could see what the humble cub has become. He owned three airports, Lehi, South Jordan and one in West Jordan and he and my Grandma were inducted in the aviation hall of fame up at Hill AFB.
Wow! Awesome heritage.
I've only just gained an interest in aviation but those are the sort of pioneer stories that I'm obsessing over. Tell us more!!
Wow he must have had some awesome stories! I’m just getting started in aviation, but people like that are so inspiring!
He would also be shocked to see that it is solid city from lehi to South Jordan to West jordan.
Thank you for inspiring me to follow my life long dream of flying. 48 years old started flight school last week
I'm an ex-fabricator, and you, Mike, have me in awe of your Engineering and especially your fabrication. It looks all perfect ! I enjoy your site and your working on your planes. I flew for almost 20 years, and got to fly many different airplanes. Never had the chance to do bush piloting, but have put my Stearman into a few places, that have never seen a plane! Just wait until you finish Scrappy, and get it in the air! God-Speed Mike!
Love the Stearman, such a beautiful plane! Thanks for your comment, I appreciate the kind words.
Scrappy looks like a caricature of a bush plane, with every feature exaggerated. Amazing job Mike!!
What do you have to do to be able to weld inside your hangar? We're looking at renting a hangar to build electric skateboards in (and eventually a bush plane) but were told we are not allowed to do any welding due to fire regulations and insurance. We spot-weld our battery packs, so it seems like a deal breaker.
Holy crap, that motor mount is a thing of engineering beauty Mike, you are doing so many cool things with this build. Thank-you soo much for taking the time to do all the videoing for us to watch as you build this wonderful aircraft. Filming , editing, all of it...thank-you. I love watching and your work ethic, enthusiasm and fun demeanour are so worthy of an audience. Cheers Jerry
Mike: Oh, this job takes four hands? I'll just build two more hands.
I'm dying to see how that airboat prop works out.
Ron: Congrats to you, man. You know the path you were going down. Someone threw you a lifeline and you were wise enough to grab it with both hands and hold on and to make the most of it. I love all the background assistance you give Mike.
Mike: Thank you for being wise and generous enough to see someone who needed help and to be that person throwing a lifeline. You are a good--very good--man!
It is so awesome to see Ron in the video, not sure what helped him to get over his camera shyness, but happy that he did!
Brennen
When I was a child there was an elderly gentleman in our church congregation who was a F4U Corsair pilot during WW2. I thought that was the coolest thing!
I know most of you pilots already know that the Corsair incorporated the largest engine available at the time, the 2,000 hp 18-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp radial. To extract as much power as possible, a relatively large Hamilton Standard Hydromatic propeller of 13' 4" was used, & thats why the Corsair had gull wings :)
Hmmm... that means with the Mike Patey approach, you could have a 4000hp DC3...🤔🤨😯
The gull wing was also useful because it meant that the wing fuselage joint was ideal from a drag perspective
I thought it had gull wings so the length of the landing gear struts could be shorter, thus stronger, for the rough carrier deck landings.
@@donkboys im sure it was many things. It also probably had gull wings so it more easily could fit on the deck of a carrier or the wing folding mechanism could be stronger. But youre both right two big reasons was to get the angle of attack required to clear the prop. And it also allowed the landing gear to be really stumpy
If you look at the Corsair landing gear it folds to the rear. The wing cord, of course, limits the length of the gear and with a strait wing the gear would have been too short to support the desired prop. The only reason they “bent” the wings was to raise the fuselage to clear the prop. It didn’t have the kill ratio of the Hellcat but totally outperformed it. An amazing airplane.
Mike I hope your kids understand how lucky they are that they have a father that shares knowledge in this way. The depth and breadth of the knowledge you are sharing is amazing. Please please keep on sharing even if it isn't plane related. You are a great teacher. My you and yours be blessed sir :)
I’m not often excited by internet builds....but MAN I can’t wait to see this plane fly
Imagining Mike laying in bed running failure mode analyses in his head over potential engine mount improvements. You Sir, are an inspiration to us all.
When I gave you a thumbs up, I was number 499. I find it an extraordinary testimony to your good work that there was no thumbs down.
Still the ONLY show I wait impatiently on. Everything else I binge watch. Keep up the great work Mike and Ron blessings to you, your families, and keep cranking
And here I was thinking: it's sunday night, maybe Mike Patey will let a video out today... and Bam! That's just awesome! You Sir are giving us a rare opportunity to see the behind the scenes of a very very very much unique perspective, so thank you very very much for that! Your skills and experience are just awesome! Cheers from Brasil!
Its really awesome see you and Ron work together. Thanks for all the hard work and taking us all along with you in this build.
Mike -- I think you should put some timelapse cameras up near the roof, pointing down. That way you can get timelapses of all the work you do!
It would still take a week to see everything he does in a day 😆
@@inmyopinion6836 jaja... yeah
HEY MIKE, YOUR PLANE LOOKS GREAT, BEEN FOLLOWING SINCE THE START OF DRACO, REALLY ENJOY YOUR PROJECTS AND APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS CONTENT OUT. I KNOW YOU COULD SPEND YOUR TIME AND MONEY A MILLION OTHER WAYS, IM GLAD YOU CHOSE TO SHARE THIS WITH THE WORLD.
ITS AMAZING THAT A SMALL TUBULAR STRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT ALL THE WEIGHT OF AN ENGINE CANTILEVERED OUT THERE, AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED FORCES FROM THRUST. TUBULAR TRUSS STRUCTURES DONE RIGHT ARE IMPRESSIVE!
ANOTHER SCRAPPY VIDEO!!!! YESSSSSSSSS❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ KEEP IT UP MIKE
What can you say about that video? Absolutely Amazing! To think you're watching the most amazing, customized plane, being build from the ground up. Not only does anything not come close to Mike's aircraft designs, but nothing comes even close to this video series. Thank you and please keep'em coming. I cant get enough.
Mike made motor mount design unbelievably interesting, this man can do no wrong !! Where does one sign up for the Mike Patey airplane design & build apprenticeship scheme, seriously would be the best apprenticeship ever !!
Mike, You're an inspiration to many of us. Don't stop.
Your designs are so far ahead of most aircraft builders, their just shaking their heads saying what? Grazy good stuff Mike!
Great video!
Thank you for showing everyone that was involved. It takes a great team to accomplish great things and prior videos don’t always show that as much.
We all know you work lean, but it’s still good to be reminded that you are working with and developing a great team.
Mike at start of series: "I'm gonna detune my ex racing engine to 500 HP - it's overkill, but I already have it".
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Mike now: " I'm gonna do some some engine upgrades, cos 500 HP just isn't enough".
Haha I thought the same thing... 500hp not enough???😂😂😂
I mean, he announced the prop some while ago and ... it was obvious that 500 wasn't gonna cut it. What kind of power do those airboats have? Like the 600~700 beach? The only one i personally know of, here in Europe has around 730 HP and can do all its watery marsh things, but also ride along on wheels on land.
Yea, the Draco crash has really altered this build.
@@ryanschaff123 Could you imagine if he had the power to weight ratio like scrappy is going to have in Draco during that flip, he could of dropped the throttle and pulled himself out of the Ground loop
@@aserta Wheels? Swamp boats just need a lawn to drive around on.
Most manic “show and tell” on the web. Love the enthusiasm.
I swear every time I have something to do Mike comes out with a new video so I have to put everything on hold
🤣
Wow! Mike Patey and Scrappy on a sunday. What a treat. WOOT! WOOT! Looking good
Mike might be the most productive procrastinator ever.
Literally
😂
HAHAHAH
I am getting so excited. Mike, next time you see a young kid hanging out at your local airport, take him up flying. You will change his life forever. I imagine that my first hardcore introduction to aviation when I was about 10 years old. There was a retired Northwest Airlines 747 captain that kept his mooney at the airport near my house where I would hang out all the time. One day out of the blue he asked me if I wanted to go fly with him. It was that day that truly made me me fall in love with aviation.
What a great experience! 👍🏻👍🏻
I have been known to click to the good parts...but with Mike, its all good.
Brilliant design with the bolt angles. This show is a treat for builders of any sort.
The world's first flying engine.
Gee Bee: Am I a joke to you?
They said if you put a big enough engine in, anything can fly. That was the F-100 Super Sabre.
The Gee Bee was an engine with wings.
There might be some more, but I'm drawing a blank.
@@Shadow63Wolf The F-4 Phantom.
F-104 Starfighter, of course.
naa i think that got beat out by a gb model r..lol i could be wrong
That engine mount should be patented, gold plated, and put on permanent display at the Smithsonian. The amount of "this is good, but what can I do to make it better" ingenuity is incredible, and yet seeing it all together, it seems clean, straight forward, and obvious. I caught myself thinking "well of course that's how it should be done" several times, (helped by Mike's excellent explanation). I bet there are builders who watched this heading to their respective workshops and drawing boards to incorporate the engineering details from Mike into their own builds. If there aren't, THERE SHOULD BE!
Thank you for your nice comment.👍🏻👍🏻
This is probably going to be the best bush plane ever!!
Mike, fantastic video, that motor is huuuge! I’d love you to do a separate video to walk us through how you: a) calculate the weight and balance and therefore the final mounting position of the motor, b) determine the thrust angle for the final position of the motor and c) the strength of materials calculations for the design of your engine mount taking weight, thrust and shock (from the off-field landings you plan to do with Scrappy) into account. Thanks for taking us along on such an amazing journey of building your Monster Cub 👍
Mike Hi! I have followed you for a long time and have watched all of your’s & your brothers videos. In fact my wife and I own a Bravo 5 tug #18. At any rate have you considered making your engine mount so that you could actually swing the engine to the left or right to access the back of the engine, like you can on a Cessna 195? We had N195JJ a 1952 Cessna 195 we found in a hanger in Springfield Ohio and restored, loved the fact you could pull to bolts and swing the engine like a door to access the back of it while still mounted to the plane. Britt
Very exciting to see your progress on this. It was fun talking yesterday at Wings and Wheels!
I didn’t know “tubing notcher envy” was a thing, and now I have it...
Me too - awesome notch gnawer!
Me too...although I have always had shop/hanger envy anyway!
Great tool , if you get a Hogan carbide cutter , even better
He could build some wicked bike frames with that thing.
Yep
Mike, it’s good to see you “back to work!” I enjoyed your explanation of how you designed Scrappy’s engine mount to be “fail-safe” as well. But in your talk about the consequences of engine separation you’ve backed yourself into a corner. If that should happen, you didn’t mention your own backup plan of your BRS system! I agree it would be a “”recovery from an unusual attitude,” but you would also have the entire rear fuselage as a “crumple zone.”
Mike, you and your whole family/gang are an ongoing story of imagination, sweat, joy, dedication, that is a constant challenge and inspiration to all of us! I am looking forward to your finishing and flying of Scrappy; plus Chandras’ Carbon Cub project, and “anything else that might come up!”
I'm an Engineer and learning a great deal .... Thanks for the explanations, I'm tracking what you do and why.
Your excitement on what you do is unparalleled. It is said that if one’s work is one’s passion... then you really don’t work...or something like that! Is it necessary to have a background on aeronautical engineering to do what you do? In any rate, it’s fantastic. Absolutely amazing watching the progress of an airplane coming to life. I found this video by accident, now I look forward to see the result of Scrappy in the air. I’m an instrument rated pilot. Best regards and success on your endeavors. Cheers from Houston, Texas.
Hey Mike, are you OK... We're starving out here for a Scrappy update!! I've had more updates from my vendors than you and they're doing things we've never done before... Love ya brother, just going through withdrawals and getting worried you caught the COVID.
I LOVE the tip about the deep socket!!!! I have done several forms of construction, and now I do off-grid solar, and I find the problem of losing the nut in the deep socket to be a constant source of frustration. Thanks SO MUCH for the tip!
PS, I was surprised that even after scrolling through 2/3 of the comments, I couldn’t find anyone else who commented about this tip. I anticipate this to be hugely helpful in my day to day life!
Thank you, glad to see it’ll be helpful for you.👍🏻👍🏻
About losing the engine, I heard of a guy flying along with his family in his Miles Messenger, when the prop shed a blade - a few moments later the engine fell off, and he got very busy putting his wife and kids on top of the instrument panel - and they all survived.
That's Bruce Willis movie material !!!
@@nielsheesernielsen3614 Sylvester!
I had the same thing happen on an RC airplane. A folding prop shed a blade and the resulting severely out of balance prop ripped the motor right out of the plane. CG went to the aileron hinge line. Touchy doesn't begin to describe the result. A lot of down elevator and just breathing on the stick and I did fly it down to an intact landing.
@@ljfinger My buddy who has flown RC for years had the same experience.. &we heard a story of another full scale plane with single pilot, full motor separation, he pitched full foreward hoping for the best, only let up just @ ground..survived luckily.. safety wire to retain loose engine doesn't hurt, but I like Mike Patey's idea better still to start with.
That is why the P39 was such a great design.
Your ingenuity is matched only by your attention to detail. I keep on saying this, but you blow my mind even more with every episode, Mike. Wonderful work!
"What sort of standards is this airplane built to" 'Oh, Very rigorous aerospace standards' "What sort of things?" 'Well the front's not supposed to fall off, for a start.'
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Well the front fell off.
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IMO, if the nose end falls off in this, you have ... bigger fish to fry.
But i bet it was towed beyond the environment after the incident
Well, it happened to a Miles Messenger
I get this reference, well done.
Thank you for the update video. Looking forward to it's first flight. Hope the family and you are doing well. Take care Spin
The intro is perfect after that crash. "Its physics, math and engineering...." 😂😂😂
It's also angle of approach and speed which that float pilot obviously missed in ground school.....😂
Trent Jensen angle of approach and speed IS physics.
@@lucifermorningstar4548 yeah....I know.... you and I know this because, common sense. But not all pilots have common sense.....
Poor Murphy Rebel! The backstory is that guy hung a too heavy engine on her, so when he didn't arrest his descent rate with a blip 'O throttle soon enough, the motor mount failed.
Unbelievable, I’m lost for words.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻, cheers Wiz
When Scrappys finished, you need to collaborate with Flite Test and make an rc model. Trent's freedom fox is sick but an rc scrappy would be bad a**.
Or better yet, Horizon Hobby and Eflite. :)
@@StevesRC Horizon. Ehhhh.
This is such amazing viewing, I'm not necessarily watching any in the correct order.
I first come across Draco and Scrappy on RUclips whilst watching other pages as I want to learn more STOL techniques. Not knowing some of the drive behind the tech was also search and rescue and now watching some of this build etc, I can now see why the other pages and pilots have so much respect for you and your family/team and what you accomplish.
Thank you for transparency and inspiration you are giving ✌️
You certainly earned my subscription
Puts into perspective all the so called aviation 'experts' with their goofy opinions on what you should or shouldn't do. If it works then fine, if it doesn't try another option. This guy has all the right ideas..
This dudes work ethic is crazy. Dude was sitting there ready to put his plane together and was twitching about painting his mount. Lol wish i was this motivated to work.
This guy is building a real plane that will fly like a RC airplane!
I learn something about engineering, aviation and artistry every step of this build. I so look forward to Trent Palmer documenting future shenanigans with Scrappy.
That trick with the nut is genius. Now I just need a real plane to work on lol.
I guess i feel a little smarter now, I have done that as well, using different kinds of stuff to wedge a nut or bolt into a socket, like a chunk of plastic bag, a piece of paper towel, gasket gook and grease will work too.
Your motor-mounting solution is well applied physics & really sturdy.
Good work!
I'm with you on the double motor mount . That engine is going to be a beast on that light air frame . I'd hate to see it take off and leave you and Scrappy hanging in mid air . LOL I had a Honda CR 500 works bike shoot out from under me once , I felt like Wylie Coyote sitting there on nothing but a cloud of dust ! THEN , my tumbling ass ..... Luv you guys !!!
a lot like attaching a jet engine to a tinfoil plane???
One word, genius. Framing of motor mount is very strong. The entroduction of the beaver on floats breaking the motor mount set the story.
Two years into my aircraft build, and I’m finally finished clecoing my pre-punched empennage together.
BACK TO WORK......?
It is so cool to see how far Scrappy has come since you decided to do this project. Watched every episode. So cool man!!!
"More to come" so true and hope so! Love in scrappy but cannot wait for draco x
Can’t wait to see another scrappy update! I use a ton of RUclips and this is one of my favorite channels! Can’t wait to fly one day!
Average Joe engineer - just bolt your engine on like that. Mike Patey : Here, hold my beer!
Pretty sure Pateys dont drink beer. Maybe that explains their level of energy.
Coming soon: BEST BEER 😂😂
@@rconger24 I think he drinks red cordial, thats an Aussie joke!
I can see by your giggling and happiness that you are near the end of Scrappy in this video...your an innovator...
Just by watching Mike's videos i went from having a skeleton airframe in my garage to a fully covered one almost ready to paint in a week. 😆
I'm an aviation mechanic and enthusiast at the same time, it has been my life since I have memory. I saw the first few mins of this video and automatically subscribed to your channel! Would be a dream to work with someone like you at some point in my aviation career!
Awesome! Thanks for subscribing and I wish you much success.👍🏻👍🏻
Mike please... 8:01
If you failed by doing something the right way what am I?
I think he was just waiting for Ron so he wouldn't screw up the mount! Credit to Ron!
Im not familiar with the legacy of that mount design. Maybe the history has already been proven. Ideally, I would like to have seen him use his first mount as the test platform pushed to measured failures, especially torque and shear, then build a second one incorporating corrections based on data derived from the measured values.
That's the way
Ft. Taylor swift
Look I dont say this too easy but I really like this guy! So inspiring! Not just in aviation but the whole get up and get back to work attitude! He is a very blessed man for sure but a lot of it is his own doings! God bless you and your family Mike! Also Im super happy to see you have rubbed off on your son with that jet ski build he is working on! Enjoy!
Thank you so much for your comment. I really appreciate it. 👍🏻👍🏻
And to think this is what he does in his extra spare time what am I doing with my life!
From the start You’re engineering ideas make total sense. That’s why I keep watching.
It is YOUR SON'S project that I suggested be called SCRATCHY! Then when you fly over him as he is shredding the water it will be SCRAPPY and SCRATCHY!
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Mike, you and I have a TON of things in common, you just happen to be better at ALL of them! 🤣. You never cease to inspire me, brother. Thanks for candidly sharing your life and love for family and flight.
One more thing...dude at the beginning of your video appears to have forgotten his flaps! Lucky he didn’t fully depart during his landing stall.
“Motor mount jig adjuster thing “. So technical!
MMJAT. It’s official
For newer viewers of Mike's build: you should know he is a business owner and real busy with that, from what i understand, this whole airplane thing is just what he does in his spare time. This of course makes his accomplishments all the more amazing! IN HIS SPARE TIME!!!
What kind of business?
WatchedTires squash when motor weight was droped on em i noticed. What a beast u have there.
Finally! So awesome to see the engine on. I still can’t get over that prop. Insane.
This is what we’ve been waiting for!!!
Pure genius!!!! Your idea on having the motor mount bolts at angles is top notch!!!!!!!👍👏
I just can't wait for the wings to get build bud i have watched every vlog now i cant wait to learn how to build wings can u give us ones that don't know how to do the math on building a aircraft
So glad to have found your channel. Former U.S. Air Force.
Aloha from Big Island, Hawai'i.
After losing a prop blade while towing a banner, three mounts broke. The fourth bent 60 degrees. The cowling flew off never to be seen again. The weight of the engine remained but it was hanging off the right side of the plane blocking airflow to the tail. I followed the yaw to the right and glided like the proverbial set of keys to a one acre field. A flare wasn’t possible with only half an elevator in the slipstream but there was no fire thank God. The engine completed the 180 on impact and the remaining prop blade pierced the cabin and ended up wedged between me and the panel. ( it did NOT pierce me. Another thank God). A couple weeks in the hospital and I bought a Pawnee with the insurance money and went “back to work”. ... undetectable stress fracture in the prop.
Thank the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Mary, Joseph, all the family, inlaws, & angels above.. you were the impossible best case scenario my friend
Ls
WOW!!! What a crazy event! So glad you not only survived to tell about it, but got back in the air. Good on you! 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome seeing the progress on scrappy! About the last point... tpyically the "cheaper" sockets let the nut drop down but the "better" ones have a lip which keeps them close to the end and makes it easier to get them started on bolts that are pointing down. I'd love to come check out the hangar at some point if you're cool with visitors and even put in a day helping out around the shop!
Mike, you are insane in your thinking and I love it! Very innovative forward thinking! Thanks for the update on Scrappy. Would love to know where your wife is on her "baby" as well, will she be doing a vlog for us to follow?
also, I just bought some Scrappy Merch and would love to see some hats become available! Thanks again!
It is amazing watching this aircraft and the ingenuity this man uses to build this plane. Truly inspiring, BACK TO WORK
Everyone! Drop everything! We have an upload! :O :D
But, after that - *Back To Work!* ^^
This format of episode is where it's at! Thanks Mike for the excellent content!
the difference between Mike and the rest of us: What I did today - I watched mike build a plane. What Mike did - I built a plane... lets get to work!
And he did it while having a beautiful wife (who is gonna build her own airplane!) and family. Defininetly an over achiever.
Hey I fixed an airplane today... kinda close
I identify with this.
@@adamjacobs8606 i walked by mine yesterday...or ,.... was it the day before..lol
I'm in love with the thought process behind the angled engine mount bolts. Genius!! Well done!! Such a wicked project.
This is no Cub. It's a full grown badass grizzly.
I really like your explanations about the need for identifying weight distribution. And the motor mount design. Makes it easy to understand.. Thanks.
I think MIke's the only person that's said that 500 horsepower isn't enough on a bushplane.
Such a beautiful thing. All of it. It's a shame that we are so far behind where you are in the build, but the videos aren't the main project, Scrappy is.
Can't wait to see it fly!
Me: Well I better clean the appartment before the kids show up...
Mike Patey: Hold up! Watch this crazy video first!
Mike Patey built an entire airplane before you got your underwear in the washer.
I allways find a Mike patay video vrakes the youtube cycle and i get back to work. And inspires me to build more rc planes. Cant wait till i can affo rfd a real one!!
Mr. Mike, your out of the box thinking is amazing! No wonder you are successful at anything you do................
Every time Mike does a fist pump, a pilot gets his wings!
lol
Excellent!
Awesome video, Mike! Thanks for it! A Cradle - you built an Engine Cradle. Really looking forward to your next Scrappy video!
Hi Mike! Love the videos! I’m rebuilding a kitfox because of watching your videos!
A day when I can sit down to a new Scrappy video is a good day.
Mount looks gorgeous in paint. I may have to steal your angled bolt-up concept for a tube rear clip I'm thinking about for a car project-don't want the rear end to come off, now.