Top 5 9mm Carbines: Our Picks
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In this video we discuss our top picks for the best 9mm carbines on the market. A number of factors came into play in these choices, everything from cost and cool factor to suppressor host options, magazine compatibility and general availability. We have many more videos in the pipeline, stay tuned.
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0:58 Kel-Tec Sub 2000
2:45 CZ Scorpion
6:40 Glock mag fed AR build
10:38 MP5
12:40 JR Carbine
justin long 🐐
justin long i
justin long thanks
Justin!
Tank you much
I would love to see an updated 2020 version of this
You don't need to SBR everything anymore, that's for sure
I'd watch reboots of all their top 5's.
I agree as I have a Berretta CX4 Storm I think is one of the best guns I have ever owned. I know these are niche guns, but very cool!
Don't forget about the PC carbine.
Yeah it takes Glock mags.
2020 kel tech sub is internally suppressed and new twist fold for red dot
My goodness, do I ever enjoy sitting here listening and watching as you share your wealth of knowledge on some really fun stuff. Informative as well as pure entertainment. Thank you very much.
I love watching these guys. I learn so much about firearms, and figure out what questions to ask dealers when I'm looking for a gun
Is it just me who stares at Chad to wait for him to try to talk but always loses the opportunity?? LMFAO
+MikeTheGamer Eric and Barry def had a better flow between the two! They had good chemistry.
+MikeTheGamer The channel is now run by a company, 88 Industries LLC, that owns the content. The company is 100% Eric's company afaik, so technically Chad would be interrupting his boss..
+barath4545 no I'm sorry I think you got it wrong. look at 5:07 look at Chad trying to talk right there
MikeTheGamer
Yes, he can speak of cause otherwise he would probably be handling the camera, but Eric owns the operation so I meant that Chad is probably more respectful than he would be if it had been these two making videos as a buddy team on equal footing.
+barath4545 Perhaps they should start taking turns as "Host"
I'm surprised you didn't include the Hi Point 995TS; It is inexpensive, eats both cheap and quality ammo without a burp, is surprisingly accurate, and is a gas to shoot right out of the box. Yes it's not tactical enough for you two, not too many upgrades; but for those of us who don't have a lot of $$$$, it's an accurate and reliable option for both fun, run & gun and self defense. It's Guaranteed for Life, Made in America, and with the Hi-Point approved, 20-round REDBALL Sports mags, it is no longer a 7 pound, 10 round toy.
I'm not surprised. Look at their hanguns- blowback, zinc castings, have to drive a roll pin out to clean them. Not exactly heirloom quality.
This is my first time watching your channel, and I love it! Subscribed
Uhhh Beretta CX4 - multiple 3 gun match wins - SUPER RELIABLE! - I love mine
It's easy to swap barrels on an mp5, you need a 20 ton press and a mill but once you have that it's easy.
Eric cuts off Chad alot when he tries to talk
+justin M I always thought Chad tried to cut Eric off. haha Eric and Barry were a better team as far as doing videos. I still enjoy the videos though
+andinconclusion Bingo.
These two are an inch away from being the Click & Clack Brothers of RUclips.
Keep up the great work guys!
Yes, Eric is rude. Let Chad speak!
+justin M Yes could not watch the whole video. Eric to rude.
YES, IVE NOTICED THAT😂
Kel Tec hit the sweet spot with the Sub 2000. The Lone Wolf G9 had good reviews. Beretta Storm deserves honorable mention.
I have the Sig MPX, however I love what you Brother's had on that table, Blessings to you both.
Personally, I love my 9mm Beretta CX4 Storm! Great little rifle. Its how I got my wife into shooting.
so hard watching these videos living in CA, I don't know why I do it to myself
Casey Mathews Stay strong. Perhaps things may change.
Haha, the only 9mm carbine we have in this state is Chiappa's shitty M1-9mm that jams every other shot.
Move
Ruger PC!!!!👍
It's also hard to watch these videos when you don't have the money to buy even by something
You guys make some great and informative video's on all types of guns. Just subscribed. Thanks guys
The quality of the videos is awesome! Great job on this one!
"Mmmmm hmm"
-Chad 2016
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hey no love for the highpoint carbine? it's very reliable and eats any ammo. not very pretty looking though.
ALWAYS good info like I've come to expect! thank you brohers!
Really interesting video. Keep up the great work fellas!
These guns are crazy expensive right now besides the sub-2000
I got my Hi-Point 995TS for $287 after tax. Can't beat that price.
Vick Nelonis yup tell me about it I just spent a grand on the cz scorpion evo
Extar ep9
A lot of them are pretty high dollar. But you don't need to spend $1k to get a decent carbine. Or any decent rifle for that matter. There are a lot of affordable ones out there that won't let you down.
Chuck G are they threaded ? I’m looking for a cheap reliable carbine that can be suppressed
Dang, surprised to not see the 995ts on there.
Better than a keltec
@@guerom1367 damn right! Those damn things feel like your shooting a youth rifle they are so damn short. Plus I had malfunctions. Never had a malfunction with my model 995
Super helpful and informative, thanks guys!!!
Hey Eric. I absolutely love the videos that you and Chad do. I do learn a lot from them. I value the knowledge, experience and opinions of both of you. I've seen the video of the JR Carbines and found it very informative. I went to my local gun store to purchase one in .45acp. Upon arriving at the store, I told the owner what I was looking for, and he suggested the TNW aero survival rifle. It's very much like the JR carbines, and also comes in various calibers. The main selling point for me on the TNW was that it came with optics, where the JR did not. I was wondering if you would do a video comparing the 2 carbines. I know that various ar parts can be used in the JR's, and was wondering if the same could be said about the TNW's. Thanks in advance.
Wesley.
New Ruger 9mm PC has MLOK rails and takes Glock mags...
So when is S&W coming out with their 9mm carbine ?
I want S&W to come out with a competitive single stack 10 round to compete with hellcat and 365.
Still waiting. They could take all the good things w all these guns and come out w one and come out on top
It's nice to see that since this video was made, CZ fixed the EVO and aftermarket parts are readily available (and relatively cheap). $17 for the 32 round hybrid mags? YES! Now if only the EVO itself was as easy to find in black as it is in FDE...
thanks for your great video's and reviews...you channel is a pleasure to watch...
Love my Hi Point 995
Amen to that. I was really surprised the 995 didnt make the list. Guess its not effing SUPPRESSOR COMPATIBLE..... whoop dee doo...
akgp1975 Well you know, these types of people think a gun has to be 800$+ to be good even though there is a different between Cheap and bad quality and Cheap and affordable
my 995 carbine is topped with Weaver 1.5 scope for quick target acquisition and is very useable out to 100yds...ugly but reliable, no failures of any kind...lol
As I say, there is a difference between cheap and inexpensive.
Tony V lol I sold a 995 with a weaver scope on it last year. was it you who bought it?
What about the high point 995TS? Its cheap but seems to shoot good
Just got the Hi Point and love it
I have a very early Lone Wolf lower with a YHM upper in 9mm. Have had it for years now, absolute blast to shoot and had been reliable as a hammer with whatever I feed it. Thing is a blast with a drum magazine.
Great review. My friend just bought a Kel Tech, and I like it. The stock is a little flimsy for me, but it is functional. I'm old school. I used to work at the largest gun store in Indiana with 3 indoor ranges, etc,. But, that's been long ago. Back in the late 80's. I love firearms. :-) Varmint rifles are my weakness, but I also love AR's, etc, and trying to get back into shooting again. I've been ill for several years and had to get out of it, so your reviews help big time.
Thanks guys. Really appreciate it.
Great review but really when you spend 2k on gun upgrades how good is the gun really ? You should break down the best carbine guns that you don't think are over priced and a gun you don't feel you need to add 2k worth of upgrades for it to a good gun
This video is very misleading. They should have called it, "our Top 5 9mm Carbine Projects". Some of their guns are customized, self assembled/modded rigs. And I absolutely LOVE how they some of their "TOP" carbines have all kinds of problems, and yet are described as awesome firearms.
Their TOP carbines have PROBLEMS..?? These guys are IDIOTS...LOL
I don’t know MP5 specifics, but on the full size hk clones use of different locking pieces allows one to tune the back pressure with a can for soft, reliable cycling.
I can’t get over how they look with the Glock mag in the AR platform which is why I have the endo mags for my AR9’s and I love the way it works and looks MUCH BETTER now.
My favorite thing that chad says is "that's serious firepower yknow"
do you guys like the Beretta carbine? I've got a 92 fs and have been thinking of getting one just because of the shared mags
buy it and don't look back.
I will second that. I have the storm and 92fs that uses the same mags. Perfect combination. Also some sub2ks can use the fs92 mags.
92fs mags
Just took out my new Wilson Combat ar9 pistol with 8 1/2” barrel set up for Glock mags. This is by far my fav gun at the moment. Just added a law tactical folding stock and a Trijicon SRO… ran about 200 rounds flawlessly. Wasn’t cheap, but man it’s nice! Also added a Raptor ambi charging handle.
Great video guys! I wish you would have addressed last round bolt hold open feature availability of the various models. I know that is an issue, especially with some of the AR variants.
Also, what is the front sight assembly you have on the Kel-Tec? It appears top be aftermarket. Very interested in your answers. Thanks!
Why no love for the Beretta Cx4 Storm? Ergonomic, reliable and uses one of two common beretta magazines. It convertible between them as well. Mine is accurate and shoots everything I load into the magazine.
+1 on the Storm. Maybe they left it off the list because its discontinued.
+Larry Mogil true, but easier to find for sale than the Keltec 9mm. :)
+o2wow SELLING MINE HATED SHOOTING IT! The scorpion or Sub2k are sooooooooo much better!
... because it is more plastic than a Chinese shopping bag factory
+o2wow I think because it's not very customizable. They seem to judge the quality of a firearm by how much stuff you can bolt onto it. They mentioned almost nothing about the first two things I look for when researching a gun: accuracy and reliability. They see them as toys, I want something I can trust my life with.
I love the 9 mm 995 ts. Awesome gun.
Couldn't agree with you more...my Hi Point 995TS is a joy to shoot! A little labor intensive to clean, but for the price & reliability you just can't go wrong.
Hi! Thanks for your video. Have you ever tried the Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm?
9mm AR build with problems but no hi point 995? Lol wut. Lame.
As a recent HP Carbine owner I ask that question too. I suppose if I could afford a 2000 dollar sbr, a 1000 dollar can and a couple of 200 dollar tax stamps I might be tempted to have a top 5 carbine in the closet. But instead I have a HP that works amazingly well and shoots to point of aim.
Ran Kelvin I agree! I've got 3 Hi Point 9mm carbines, two 995TS models&the original stock that looks like a "planet of the apes" gun. They do what they're supposed to do,they've been reliable, everyone who's shot mine thinks they're fun to shoot,& I'm not concerned with what gun snobs think of them. The 20round Redball magazine is a sweet addition to the 10round magazines. I'll take a "take it out of the box&shoot it carbine" over a "fiddle with it till it works right" designer carbine anytime.
Any reason the Beretta cx4 didn't make the cut?
Yes, it's ugly, has a mag capacity of 10, and doesn't take 92 series mags so no mag interchangeability with your sidearm.
@@zdub8438 i just purchased a cx4 storm in 9mm with px4 magazine adapter that is interchangeable with px4 storm. came with two 17 round magazines. and for just over 20 bucks you can purchase the 92f mag adapter witch is very easy to change out no tools required. have two 20 round and one 32 round 92f magazines. as for the looks i think its an Italian beauty.
@@kustomcommunications8639 I also just purchased two 30 round Beretta for the storm. They work great.
Great video guys 👌🏾👌🏾
love your show guys. I have a quick question, is it easier to start with the tax stamp and build the sbr or build the pistol and have it just in case and to the forum 1?
I am possibly looking at getting a Southern Gun Co 9mm "lever release" rifle. Seeing as I couldn't own any of these in the UK due to them being semi auto, with the SGC rifle it locks the bolt back after every round fired and you manually release it each time with a lever where the safety would be on an AR with your thumb. That is about as close as I can get to any of these sadly. I would love that MP5...
+cokedaz .
+cokedaz Go for it. Those are a neat little piece of engineering; I'm surprised they haven't taken off in 'ban' states here.
just move to Arizona here in the United States. Our state legislature just voted in a new bill which states that Arizona will never follow any of the new federal regulations regarding firearms due to them being unconstitutional. You can own a tank legally here, so getting you into a hk mp5 shouldn't be too hard. Just expensive, lol.
Ruger PC Carbine for 400. After market stock. You're welcome.
I love my JRC, last time I checked JRC had 10.5 inch bbl And I was also thinking about doing an SRB for it
The Kriss Vector gen 2 SDP makes a great SBR host as well. Love mine in 45 but have also released a 9mm.
"Perfect for a backpack" lmao
Renick Cleveland 😂
I mean it’s true
Where's the 9mm Kriss Vector?!?
+Vilkas Vision It's not a carbine
+Yann “FUTAZUK4” Vallespir what is it?
yeah dont they have a carbine length model and a sbr model
+Hagen A DMR
+Vilkas Vision I was ask8ing the same question
Eric and Chad y’all should do a Top 5 Guns of the Wild West!!! I love y’alls channel, I’ve watched your top five gun videos multiple times lol keep up the good work ! 😀
What about the Sig MPX ?
Where is the Beretta CX4 storm??? Thats one of the best carbines out there
Most overpriced too
@@Profile.4 they are going 600 .00 down here in fl.
With its heavy bolt and spring, my Beretta Carbine uses nothing but 9mm JHP +P+!!! That made it well worth the cost.
Shot with my buddy's CX4 and i must say that the stock sights are a pain in the ass to use and i don't like the "cheapness" of the stock... was not impressed, at all. I personally own a JR and it really is a wonderful carbine.
@@mantafelix How can a great rear aperture and a front post be difficult? I pulled it out the box and was nailing tight groups just casually from 30 yds or so. Having seen an M-16 original stock, buffer and spring go flying from just bouncing against an 80 pound pack at Parris Island in 1985, I think I can safely say that the Beretta Carbine's stock felt like a well balanced bullpup. Try low crawling with that JR and what looks to be a not very tightly held magazine. Besides, gas pistons rule.
I always like hearing about the MPX. Good stuff guys!
Great video as always!
I'll take the Kel-Tec Gen2, best bang for your buck!
13:50 LMFAO DA OOZI NEIN MILLIMEEDAH!!!
I've been looking at a 9 mm carbine or SBR as a home defense gun and this 5 gun really helped. I have the CZ, and Kel Tec on my list but after seeing this I think I will go with the CZ. I put a Sig Romeo red dot I have on my Bren 805 on it and buy a 1-4 for the Bren.
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just ordered a sub2000 (im really surprised i was able to find one) im excited to get it out there and have some fun.
i liked my hi-point for plinking(no sarcasm)
A friend brought a 9mm hi point to the range, I was surprised how accurate it was out at 100 yds
No Hi-Point 995TS Carbine? Is it because you can't markup the price by several hundred dollars like every other gun in your store?
Berserk Highlander 👀
You ought to do a review of the new carbine. Just bought one up here with an 18.5: barrel and they are a great carbine. The Scorpian is in duty with the Czech Army in a fully auto mode, Dead nuts reliable with every type of ammo I can buy. and extremely accurate.
I have that Surefire mini setup on my Sig MPX K with the Arisaka mount it is perfect. I used the shortest switch they make so no snags.
Feel like I just earned my masters in gunology 🎓
The high point carbine is the best seller of all the carbines sold now . how did these not make it ?
They suck
nice video and nice guns guys! 👍
It'd been nice if you included weights, retail price points, accessories availability and HOW available the guns are. Like Kel-Tec, some of the more popular guns are very hard to come by, and then when you CAN find them, sometimes priced OVER retail! But great vid guys!
"LAND OF THE NOT ALOUD TO SHOULDER AND HOME OF THE BRAVE"
+conor is p4p number 1 ""land of the free and home of the moderator tax stamp""
From a 'life and liberty' standpoint aren't 9mm carbines a little pointless compared to a handgun? Unless they are select fire? I can see the fun factor but given you can get a 30 round mag for a glock what advantage does a carbine really give you?
+srspower The ability to dump that 30 rd glock mag as fast as you can squeeze the trigger and hit center mass out to 100 yards with every one of those shots.
CN073 Yeah but at those ranges why not opt for a .223? What's the advantage of 9mm?
I like the idea of a "truck gun" or "parking lot gun" that can zip my handgun magazines out with more accuracy and speed, if the option were available.
could be considered a great bug out gun. 1 ammo type with a pistol. women and children can shoot it no problem. 1 type of mag in several cases
bob smith Personally If I had to go with a 'two gun one ammo' shtf situation I'd go with a .44 magum lever action and revolver. Maybe that's just me?
Anyone know what spring and buffer he's running on the AR9? I'm waiting on my form 1 and I still need to pick up the return spring and buffer tube.
Gentlemen, truly an epic video!
Thank you Fellas.
Keep on keeping on Brothers.
Godspeed.
what about the Sig MPX and Bretta CX4
UserName117 i love my px4 storm. Only complaint is capacity but i dont worry about it. I love it
You left out the one I plan to buy. The Hi-Point 995 TS. It's better quality than the Kel Tec at a fraction of the price. And it will not have a suppressor. Are these guys rich or what?
Gerald Scott You can get the Keltec for under $400 and I bet my life that the gen 2 it's more reliable than any Hi-Point, I have put more than 800 rounds on my Sub2000 and haven't had any hiccups yet.
@@cubanamerican22 I agree man
I love my sub 2000. it fits perfectly into my over the shoulder 19 inch laptop bag. And there's even room for my M&P 40 and 4 or 5 magazines. Even when loaded with all that it still looks half empty. The best bug out gun out there.
Listen man my only issue is that if the shooting starts I don't want to be stuck going gun oragami
@@TheAnnoyingBoss So you would rather be stuck with nothing but a pistol. So for that good at shooting a pistol at 50 yards
@@Rick-wn5oh there's other options that fit in a bad without folding in half and having to play gun oragami as much
@@TheAnnoyingBossI still don't see where you're getting that origami stuff. I can pull out my Sub 2000 and have it ready to fire in about 15 seconds. By the way, which gun are you saying you have that is under 16 inches. I'm always looking for new options so yes I'd really like to KNOW.
@@Rick-wn5oh 15 seconds is a long time when the mass shooters is taking out one person every second and a half. Bro there is literally countless options under 16 inches. I've been looking at sbrs and pccs for hours today alone. None of those have oragami to do except maybe unfolding or pulling or a stock or brace
Would love to see an update to this video. Curious where the Stribog and Extar stack up.
Top 5 unreliable guns ;) i wanna see what u can come up with.
the Kel-Tec would stay on the table
KSG-12.
NUMBER FUCKING ONE.
Hi Point C9 would be number 1.
+Donovan notmyname yup. That is their worst line.
+NavajoWarrior1864 tec9?
how come you guys did not do anything with the High Point it is ugly as Sin but it is worth its weight in gold especially for the budget-minded
as badly as i want a hi point carbine.... i dont like the low capacity mags, the minute they come out with 25 - 30 mags that will be my next choice.
I have a 995TS-CA (Grrrr because of the mag release tool required to be legal) I can attest my 995TS has never had a single FTF, FTE or had ANY problem in over 1800 rounds. Since I live in SoCal with their stupid 10 round mag restrictions, it just doesn't make sense to buy a carbine made to run normal capacity mags that are illegal in CA.
I have a gen2 it fits just fine in my swiss tech back pack. I can leave the pistol grip on. A lot of room for a few extra things too.
Very helpful .........nicely done. Thanks
Beretta CX4
Needs a Camp 9 on this list
I agree & the Berretta cx4
+Casey Ellis Somebody needs to clone the camp 9
Weren't those the coolest little carbines and fairly good priced. Now try to get one on gunbroker , like finding Bigfoot or a new Kel-tec design.
Casey Ellis - I'd gladly drop $ 200 or $ 300 fixin' up a Marlin Camp 9 Carbine found at a Pawn Shop, then spending the $ 300 towards any of these other Carbines, just my opinion though?? I have a couple Camp 9's, and a few Factory mags, and my lil'girls absolutely love it!😀
Casey Ellis I wish they still made those.
We need an updated 2020 PCC/braced pistol list! The ruger chassis model looks sick, wish they would make a ~8-10" pistol version with brace!
Hey Chad, Anyway you can drop a parts list on where & what you bought for your 9mm carbine, just what I have been wanting. Upper parts is all I am looking for, any help on this would be great info. Thanks guys great videos
jr carbine is dam heavy i would not repurchase.... nope!
One of the Top 5 gun is the bane of my existence. Sounds like any oxymoron if anything.
they have LOTS of oxyMORONS it seems!
I like your show very thorough injoyed watching an will continue to whatch
First I want to say your channel is awesome. My question is this, do you run hand loads with the kel-tec s2000? If so is there a particular bullet weight that should be used with this gun? I just started reloading for my 9mm handguns. Currently I am running 115 grain everglade fmj's with 5.6 grains of power pistol powder. Do you think that would function with the kel- tec? I am trying to not have to adjust my dies or buy a new set of dies.
the ones you went over are way out of my price rante
@ 7:55........a $2000 carbine that shoots 9mm. Why? You could have bought a quality AR and have $1200 left over.
Subtract 500-700 from that 2k for the eotech sight alone
Because he can? He probably has all kind of ARs anyways haha.
I'm building an ar-9 atm like this... 1) because I can
2) because I want to
3) because I have too many AR's atm
Well if you’re looking for a great home defense or truck gun these are actually great. They won’t over penetrate and potentially injure an unintended target, and 9mm out a of a 10+ inch barrel has similar ballistics to a .357. A 30+ round .357 seems like a badass home defense weapon to me. .223/5.56 are more for hunting, or if all hell breaks loose because those guns were designed to shoot targets at a distance, not within typical self defense range.
Terrific info. Thanks for sharing.
PSA just came out with an AR-V 9mm carbine, uses CZ mags (they sell them for $18.95 now) It is basically an AR from the trigger back.
No Hi-Point? GASP
I think it's almost blasphemy at this point to not include the 995 in a "top 9mm carbines" video.
It's because they can't markup the price by several hundred dollars like they do with every other gun in their store
Voidac Single stack mags.
I like the voidvc
Come on guys. The Beretta Storm Carbine should of been in there.
2nd time watching this, that's how good you guys are! Thanks again
Rak-9 from the factory has a threaded barrel. Has a interchange plate for glock, berreta, and Luger mags with adapters. Has the dove tail side mount so you can buy a picatinny adapter. Already has polymer foregrips and has thousands of parts that will fit because it’s the same size as a ak-47 but is labeled a carbine because of the 9mm rounds it shoots. I think the best part of it I have noticed is the simplicity of the mechanism which almost 100% mirrors the original design. I purchased it for 699 total after transfer fees from GB. It’s not on this list because it’s a professional through and through
I have a stupid question about the carbines that take glock mags: do they have to look that stupid? I mean I'm guessing the mag has to sit in that weird angle because that's how it sits in the pistol relative to the barrel but must the magwell be that thick so the whole thing looks even uglier?
That's why I much prefer carbines built from the ground up for pistol calibers like the Kriss Vector, Scorpion, MP5, etc. The AR conversions are just hideous.
+sogerc1 Lone Wolf just redesigned their lower with a smaller magwell.
Grant
Can you give a link? I can't seem find it.
sogerc1
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sogerc1
They revealed it at Shot Show and don't have it updated on their website for some reason but the back order date is when they start shipping the new design.