i mean... i drive 220 on a road and have a normal conversation so its not that hard if you take into consideration that he has done many many laps not that the road and track is the same but just for comparison of speed and maneuvers
At my first track day I was really nervous for the first few sessions. Once I had someone in my car I hadn’t seen for a few months and we started taking about casual life things I suddenly started to relax and was actually able to drive faster. Gotta use that extra ADHD brain power somehow haha
Misha, great video! A few things to note. 1. Megi is great to have on the channel. She brings a non-petrolhead-yet-still-interested perspective that I appreciate a lot, probably because that reminds me of how my wife thinks! Plus she makes the best facial expressions during your drives, lol. 2. Seems like you (and the team?) have come around on the G80 since the taxi you had. I was there at the beginning of June and met you and the team (same day those guys with the pink car were there) and George said that your taxi was very numb. Capable, but with not much feel. I think the newer cars have been honed a bit? And actually, I honestly think the XDrive is the best, as it's how BMW really aimed to develop the car (can you tell what I have on order, lol, although the sedan because we don't get the wagon in the US) 3. You can code in much of the CS software. It affects the steering, gearbox, differential and brake tuning. It's like 200 Euros. That, and you could have George swap out the front anti-roll bar, set the camber to CS settings, and put in a set of monoball front bearings and you'd have a CS without as much money or waiting. It'll never be a CS but if you're going to mod it anyway..... 4. Protection - PPF on the carbon seatbacks. All weather mats in the back and the trunk. Don't let kids bring any bad food in the car. Use seat protectors under car seats and keep up with cleaning. I had an F10 535 and a Volvo V70R when my kids were little. Both had very light interiors (Oyster and Gobi Sand) and with proper gear, neither were a pain to keep looking nice! Sold both and people had no idea we had little kids in the car. Thanks for the video!
100% second your comment. Was thinking of the same solutions in regard to the use with dogs and kids. Just raise them the right way, take the right precautions and you’ll be good!
You’ve found the perfect girl for yourself. The bliss on her face as you’re driving her around can’t help but make you smile and make it clear how much fun the lap is. I’m happy you both found each other. 😊
That S58 is solid, oil temp didn’t even move even when being hammered ! My S58 has done 75k miles and is still silky smooth and pulls as hard as when it was new. A masterpiece from BMW
The fact a lot of cars overheat and this barely goes above 100c on the oil just shows how good this s58 is. Love that engine.. Hope on day I like the front grill 😂
I just imported a Toyota Caldina GTT FROM Japan and love it. Get a wagon and make it your own. Fast sneaky wagons have a lot going for them. Quick and discrete.
im new to the channel and i just adored this whole thing! love the imputs and perspectives and being able to humbly driving at those speeds while having a general conversations is simply outstanding
Looks like it handles the track really well, and aesthetically the Touring is so good. The CS Touring would be incredible if you can get an allocation.
Not a touring owner but I've had my 23 M3 Comp (IOM Green Metallic) since December. I have no problems fitting my two daughters or my shepherd dog comfortably in the back and while I do try to take care of my cars and not scuff up the interior/exterior, with having a family stuff happens and I don't worry about it. I did not opt for the carbon buckets as track days for me are few and far between coming from a 2016 M3 that I did maybe 4 track weekends with but if I had the same opportunities you do for tracking the car I would have definitely opted for them (same for the carbon ceramic brakes). As I understand it, the high bolsters of the buckets seemingly do show wear more quickly than the standard seats. Other than that, it's an amazing machine and the only nitpicks I've had so far are the brake dusting and squeaking brakes (minor but something worth mentioning) with the steel brakes and stiffness of the suspension on longer rides over non-ideal roads. Other than that I love it and was worth the wait (ordered April 2022 and delivered Dec). I say go for it!
I have one for a month now. Dravit over silverstone full leather and carbon buckets. .I simply love it. Wife hates the seats for longer drives🥲😇. Real head turner and that is the only downside if you ask me as I’m not so fond of attention. It is my daily and we use a new X1 25e as our family car for holidays etc. Manhart MH-tronik upgrade installed. 630HP now and still save for the engine. Top end performance now is perfect. Best car I ever had simple. Cheers
I watched this soon after the “lambo STO” video (Sept 23) and what a difference in handling and Megi’s disposition. She feels safe in the M3 Touring at high speed. Such a contrast to the lambo STO lap. 😄 The fact that Misha and Megi are considering this a car to buy says so much about how amazing the M3 Touring is.
Ive owned quite a few cars in my life - but my favorite of all time - was my 328d wagon with adaptive dampers. That thing floated and you never felt an imperfection of the road - and it got me 43mpg. Sold it when the market went crazy in 2021. Some things aren’t worth the money. I learned the hard way.
In our family experience (2 cocker dogs+anna+us) if you REALLY want that car, then a trusted and serious cleaning place once or twice a month will wipe the problem (and dog hair) away. I was afraid of small little damage with 2 yrs anna, but I discovered it was a no problem. With a simple although refined interior sure no permanent signs of dogs/children activity
I love this car! I don't know if a cs touring will happen, and how much more expensive will it be, or how much better will it keep its value on the 2nd hand market compared to the normal one. The real questions that put me off for the cs (as a daily ofc) are, will it be as comfortable? What if you wait but you don't get an allocation? Is it worth dailying something "rare" with whatever this might include (small dents, scratches, normal signs of daily usage etc). And I personally don't like preordering products without testing them first. Whatever the case, we're already proud of you being a future bmw touring owner :D
Hi Misha, Hi Megi, As a dad and M3 Touring owner I can tell you: BUY IT!!! :) ...with the buckets there is so much space in the back, that my sons feet never touched the carbon-backpanels yet. Even if, its way easier to polish out little scratches by yourself then on normal plasticbackpanels I think. Then there is also plenty of aftermarked protection things you can buy from BMW, because inside its basically a G21. AND there is only one thing cooler then driving an M3 Touring... it is driving it with children in the rear ;) Cheers Tobi
important fact is that the reason the turn signal sounds terrible on the new bmw G series is beacuse of the F series had a better sounding indicator sound so much so that MORE drivers were seen using their turn signals, due to this regard the engineers decided they must ensure they uphold BMWs reputaion for the least indicated car on the road
Sweet car! I have a 98’ V70R. I’ve converted a 2019 x-drive wagon by welding sedan quarters on it, a carbon roofed 4door m chassis traded drive trains with it. Waiting to start a E46 touring concept tribute for a builder in Oregon. Both are clients. The paint will cost about as much as the metal work. Black shadow chrome for that one. Join the fast wagons club. No regrets.
One of the most surprising laps I’ve seen and you weren’t even balls out. Frankly outrageous that a 3 series estate can do this. The balance looked great, really pointy with stable corner exit but didn’t seem like a 4wd. Not too slow either..
as a fellow dog owner a hammock for the back seat definatley helps with the hair. Mine is from Orvis (a outdoor/fishing brand) its easy to set up and take in and out and it takes the brunt of the dog stuff and you can just throw it in the washer
I'd love to see heart rate telemetry for you Misha the driver and for the passenger. Your so calm as you drive & chat with your lady doing at leat 2 thirds and above of the limit ;)
Honey we are going to be late (kids at school/ catching a plane/ store is about to close) its ok we will be on time 5:17 lol it all seriousness its basically an SUV that's been lowered and given a race package. Its perfect. Loving this gunmetal color. As far as kids and pets go you can beef up the interior. You can buy heavy duty covers that cover the trunk and seats. My sister does that with her two dogs on her Hyundai Santa Fe. They just clip on various points with straps that go around head rests and other mounting points in the car. For the kids you can get some clear vinyl wrap that can be peeled and reapplied when it gets too torn up. There is also leather guard protectants and there are custom upholstery shops that can restitch the seats if you need at least in the states that how it can be done.
Maybe consider the Alpina b5 gt touring which looks better, have more space, has better performance, and is probably even more comfy. Would be nice to see a lap in one of those if its possible
"Talking cars" with Misha while doing a (fast) relaxed lap on the Nordschleife. 😅 To me it looked like you had a really good connection to the car. And Megi obviously also enjoyed the lap(s) - I liked her point of view in the video. 👍
What an amazing car. The seats, the shifts, the sounds. It’s got it all. I know 180k is a good amount for a car. But I’d say it would be damn worth it. My final point here is the COMPLETE 180 I’ve had on the new M Comp series. At first I wasn’t all for the grill, but man was I wrong. Almost ignorant haha, and if you get the approval from your woman, you know that car is special. Excellent driving as usual Misha!
Love the car! As a father, I appreciate the concern for feet on the back of the carbon fiber seats. But I would think you could PPF the seat backs to protect them. Then dogs in the back with a net between the seats and cargo area?
Car looks good, is fast, seems easy to drive... Perfect for a family... Now... Its time to get married and build a family! Wish you the best my friend 🙏
If you don’t want to become a slave to the car, in my experience, don’t get matte paint. Absolute nightmare for everyday marks/scratches unless you’re going to PPF the entire thing.
The additional wear from kids and pets can be resolved with seat covers, cargo covers and PPF / Ceramic on the interior high value surfaces like the CF front seat backs. The My goodness, if only BMW (and Audi) would sell their wagons in the USA.
Lovely looking car Misha but the one thing that is wrong on it is the Buck teeth front grill that all newer BMW's have now. The front grill should be half the size to look good.
If i had to choose a nice wagon style car this m3 touring would be it most people won't know what it is kinda a sleeper tbh and it's super easy to add power with a simple tube
I bought this car on 26 June 2024... On 1st June we took a two-month vacation tour through France, Portugal and Spain... That's a 10.000 miles road trip... Damn best thing I have ever done in my life... The car is "a beast..."
Love my LHD converted EVO 9 Wagon. So much fun to drive and superb in daily use. In salty winters i drive a LHD converted manual Mitsubishi Legnum VR4 with EVO 9 AYC Rear Diff. Wagons are just great.
Recently visited Apex, did a few laps and stayed over night. Parked right next to this M3, my son loved it. To me though it's overkill and a bit pointless. If for whatever reason you can only have one car for track and daily, then sure. But people who have 100k+ budget might afford two cars. The M340i makes sooo much more sense. Anywhere on the street youll be just as fast, while only using 60-70% of the fuel. Maintenance is probably less than half. Tires too. Then again you dont buy M3s and the like to be sensible. Quite a looker.
What I loved more than the car, was your interactions with each other. I vote to add the car to your family, with the seats. I automatically thought, PPF the seat backs and plastic liner with a rubber cargo mat for the trunk.
Today I tried these carbon bucket seats from BMW and I think that those from Porsche GT4, Spyder, GT3 are much more comfortable despite the lack of adjustment, but it's nothing bad. The big screen is terrible, I wish BMW would on request mount the dashboard from the preLCI model. The rest of the car is really cool.
As a dad of 3 (young kids) I think you are fine with a 3 serie with one or 2 small kids. If they grow older or you get 3 kids better look for a 5 series. But that’s all so far away in the future I’m sure you will swap 5 cars in between so I would not invest in a 5 series yet if 3 is enough, cheaper and maybe even more fun. Ps: those seats are 100% not child proof do they even have isofix? If you are planning to buy a kid soon (kidding ofcourse) then I would change seats for sure.
Misha! Great video as usual. Listen mate, maybe im saying the obvious here but if you're gonna invest that type of money into this type of machine please consider this with the whole dogs + kids aspect: Ceramic coat it on the inside and use treatments for leather, but also PPF the inside carbon. Besides that i would get some type of good dog blanket you can hook up and have in the back seet (if you wont have a dog cage), this will mean that you can hook the dog up to a seatbelt with a harness and the dogs will sit on there like "blanket" that you can remove when you want. I used this for all of my cars in the backseet when we had the dog with us. Keep up the videos, cheers from Sweden
Go for it for a family car that is also track focused i think this is the best it's practical spacious comfortable and yet it can be trashed on a track and not complain even go around it fast plus you can tune it to 660 or 750 bhp if you want to In my opinion the perfect family track car And about the seats, I don't know what to do about the red leather, but you can ppf the carbon bucket seats
At 0:38 the same Dallara that nearly caused an accident while you were driving the GT3 goes by while you show the engine lol Insane video and insane car: it is beautiful and seems built to be practical. Don't know how it would compare to RS4 but it definitely seems like a great family car
Awsome car, i have the 335d with 800nm now but this is the dream for the next one! You could clear wrap the back of the seats for the children and with the dog if you get a detailer it wil look almost new
Having had a CS I just ordered a 2025 Touring after a test drive. I would recommend the Touring unless you're on the track a great deal of time. With the CS, despite it being a great car, you're missing things like adaptive cruise , blind spot warning, more practical interior, not to mention a relatively comfortable ride. And the performance of the Touring is not far behind that of the CS.
Even tho I can't say that I've driven any of these 2 cars I have a preference for the Alpina models, like a B3 S or D3 over the M3 Touring. It's more refined and less sporty with a more sensible design, a touch of sportiness still with the body kit that only car guys will notice telling them not to mess with the car ( especially with the subtile Alpina decals) because it GOES! Definietly an Autobhan car that I woul prefer as my daily. Much less shouty.
I think it's cool that they are offering the actual ///M colors. Often with these kinds of cars all you see are black, white, grey, etc....An ///M car needs to look as special as it is....in my opinion. We'll have to talk about that Frozen Tulum color though.... If you get one, you gotta take me for a lap!
What a smooth car this is, the way how it turns in is amazing, You can see it on the video! Love your video's and really like your wife! love her accent haha. lovely couple! Keep it up Misha!
I couldn’t agree more about the bikes on the track alongside cars. I’m a motorcyclist but I wouldn’t want to ride one on the ‘ring when were also on the track. There are too many differences between driving a fast bike and a fast car and that can result in huge speed differentials at some places and on a bike where the line can be more crucial it’s you who is vulnerable.
Heck you guys loved this vlog. Misha you drive and leave the reviews of the cars to your Megi so entertaining. Hope the race went well. Couldn’t help notice Megi had some kind of medical support on her leg so I just wanted to send best wishes for a good recovery from whatever the issue is. Greg 🇬🇧🚘🏁
You pair are made for each other, a really nice couple. Maggie, is amazing. She just takes it all in her stride. I recommend a wagon in the family, you'll need the room when the rugrats come along😉
Great video Misha, I couldn’t help but smile seeing how relaxed your wife was through the lap. I’d love the M3 Touring but out of my budget, it looks to be THE perfect all-rounder.
100% Misha.... If you have any insight that a CS Touring is coming, and you can get an allocation, I'd definitely jump on one.... otherwise, yes to the regular Touring Competition. (Dravit Grey Metallic over Tartufo Full Merino for me, potentially an Isle of Man Green over the same, ok, maybe 3rd would be that gorgeous Aventurin Red Metallic over Black....or, go classic yet unique with a Brooklyn Grey over Fjord Blue leather... nobody is going to spec that.... yeah, that last one would be sick, with the Shadow Line DELETION and bi-color machined wheels...yup lol) Now to that "ownership slave" point.. PPF on the buckets, rear seat covers for the pups, rear rubber load protector for the trunk....done... and just make sure you get it interior detailed once every couple months (between your typical self cleaning) to remove the dog hair that'll creep into areas....oh.... and don't get a "frozen" paint unless you plan on PPF'ing the entire vehicle to protect it, because the finish isn't going to last like your typical clear coated shiny paint(still PPF the high wear points). Then again, if you plan on keeping it for the long run, the comparable Alpina "might" be the higher holder of resale value over the distance, seeing they're usually much rarer.
Bravo pour cette vidéo. Lors de la vente de mon coupé 335d pour cause d'ostracisation progressive en ville (Bruxelles, Paris...), j'avais essayé pour la remplacer les plus spacieuses Touring M340i et M340d, deux voitures dotées de moteurs particulièrement agréables. Je n'ai pas envisagé la M3 Touring car je la considérais comme inutilement radicale pour un usage quotidien (sans parler de l'écart de prix substantiel). Pour plus de sportivité j'ai la chance de pouvoir rouler en Porsche 991 et 981. La moindre consommation très nette du diesel, et la plus grande autonomie qui en résulte, m'ont fait choisir celui-ci. En conclusion par rapport à cet essai de Misha, comme voiture familiale d'usage quotidien, je recommanderais aux gros rouleurs de considérer comme alternative aux Touring M3 et M340i, la Touring M340d, un maître-achat.
Great video Misha, I am definitely sold on this car, I had a couple of wagons over the years with the rs6 c7 been the latest but I definitely think BMW are at the top of the game at the Moment especially with the M cars, I think you have sealed the deal for me on the m3 touring it looks so impressive on track yet been so practical for sure its the ultimate daily.
Hi, consider buying 2 cars: 1) daily, f.e. BMW 330i touring (ok, 340i if you need more power, or X3) (that you would care a bit less) 2) weekends fun car M3 CS that you would care a bit more. And not drive it in winter time. With such a setup M3 would be less exposed for small scratches and dents from others on parking lots. More over it wouldn't be exposed for extra wear made by dogs and - in future - by child or children. I know that Max and Martin from AutoTopNL use their M3's as daily (or M340i), so maybe you could ask them. Of course you don't have to buy 2 cars now. For sure I'd go for extra cover to save seats from dogs claws. Regards!
I must say that the S58 sound similar to the B58. There are some distinctive differences like the upshift sound, the B58 doesnt have that. I just love you can tell there basically the same engine.
Maybe you should do a testdrive on the Alpina? Should be a nice video! Ps you can ppf te carbonfiber part of the bucketseat for the kids & get easily some protection for the bumper if your dog joins the ride!
Great video sir, your wife is a legend just like mine, I made sure I asked and she said if it’s what you want go for it. As for style I went skyscraper grey for the gloss as my kids would destroy the Matt with McDonald’s greasy fingers, seats I hear you I went same colour as you but stock seats 2 reasons I love to shuffle in the seat as does wife and secondly I have some very overweight friends and I personally think they would destroy the bolsters on the carbons…..good luck in whatever you get. I collected it yesterday 13 miles on clock and as of today 145
I have that coral red interior (prolly called something else now LOL) in my '08 335XI coupe and it's GORGEOUS! Really what sold me on the car. Plus girls LOVE it🤣🤣
Such a cool couple! The capybara comment cracked me up 😂 100% get the M3 Touring. I got the F31 M340i Touring (MHD Stage 1 and XHP Stage 3) and absolutely love it. I have a small dog and put a dog crate in the boot (which just fits) with a dog bed inside it and that works really well. You can get pretty big dog crates, so if your dogs aren't massive they might be ok in the boot in a crate, or you can use the built in net that pulls up from behind the rear seats or even install a metal grill above the rear seats (although that does impede rear visibility a bit)
Misha has the same nonchalant look on his face as I do driving my 10 min to work. Thing is I'm on roads with a 45mph speed limit and he's on one of most dangerous tracks in the world! Get it. This reminds me of the E46 wagon! The engine sound was awesome. You don't have to be a slave to the car, but you can just always, buy covers for the back seat. I don't care if i paid $60 for a car, i wouldn't let my kids color on the back seat lol.
I got it for me (and my family😅) aswell and I spare out the bucket seats because of my kids! There is a cover for it but what’s the point then, so I went for the normale seats and I am very happy with it!
I wouldn't buy carbon seats, because it's a touring. Everything would scratch it, it's not that practical, and yep: it's not ventilated. That I noticed, that BMWs' carpet in the trunk is very easy to clean, when it comes to dog hair. I think this is the perfect car. The purple color is perfect, with a burgundy, or coffee interior.
It's incredible how capable the new g8x series is regardless of whether it's xdrive or rwd.The b58 was hailed for how great it was/is,but this s58 is another level.Definitely get a touring Misha and tune it at the very least
I don't think you should go CS. If the M5 CS is anything to go by, it will be significantly more expensive and a lot worse at what it's supposed to be. When they made the M5 CS, it saved like 70kg when similarly specd. (More savings compared to base, but you can add carbon ceramics to the base car as well for instance) But it had less sound deadening, rear bucket seats, no option for comfortable front seats, sound system, etc. Oh and all that at significant markup. It makes sense on something like an M2 if and only if you plan to run it as stock/near stock track tool. But as soon as you mod it heavily, it already falls apart, because you are going to strip it, put buckets in it, etc anyway, so it makes no sense. When we're talking about M3 Touring or M5, those aren't the cars that are supposed to be a track tool. Those are cars that can satisfy your car needs on the daily, but also perform well on the track from time to time. When you take a car like that and purposely make it noisier, with worse rear seating, with no options to make it more pleasant to be in AND you charge more, it falls apart as an offer. At least in my opinion.
Megi, I owned an 1996 850R, and I must edmit, it looks a bit outdated but it's a modern classic and will be very expensive to buy in 5 or 6 years, now it's just 12k voor a very good one, but the will go up to 20 or 30 and up to 60 or 80K in ten years time. That BMW will only drop in price and in 20 years maybee a classic but Misch would have sold it by then
So Misha, here is the ideal car, the evolution of your beloved Volvo. Versatile and most of all, approved! 👍
God you make it look so easy driving 268kmh on track full of traffic talking to your Gf at the same time 😮
Reminds me of a dodge Magnum!!! The way it looks
I guess 20 laps a day will do that to you!
@@mobilelegendspublicenemyxo4315 no you say it, is true..
i mean... i drive 220 on a road and have a normal conversation so its not that hard if you take into consideration that he has done many many laps
not that the road and track is the same but just for comparison of speed and maneuvers
you can do it too if you know all the turns in the Ring.
capybara 😂 you guys are so funny having a casual conversation as if you’re driving around a parking lot
Sent me 😂
At my first track day I was really nervous for the first few sessions. Once I had someone in my car I hadn’t seen for a few months and we started taking about casual life things I suddenly started to relax and was actually able to drive faster. Gotta use that extra ADHD brain power somehow haha
@@CatchMeNever got to switch off the noise in ya head for sure
I have to google that capybara and without reading anything pictures made laugh so like loud, she's very funny😄
Can I ride your stick 😂
Misha, great video! A few things to note.
1. Megi is great to have on the channel. She brings a non-petrolhead-yet-still-interested perspective that I appreciate a lot, probably because that reminds me of how my wife thinks! Plus she makes the best facial expressions during your drives, lol.
2. Seems like you (and the team?) have come around on the G80 since the taxi you had. I was there at the beginning of June and met you and the team (same day those guys with the pink car were there) and George said that your taxi was very numb. Capable, but with not much feel. I think the newer cars have been honed a bit? And actually, I honestly think the XDrive is the best, as it's how BMW really aimed to develop the car (can you tell what I have on order, lol, although the sedan because we don't get the wagon in the US)
3. You can code in much of the CS software. It affects the steering, gearbox, differential and brake tuning. It's like 200 Euros. That, and you could have George swap out the front anti-roll bar, set the camber to CS settings, and put in a set of monoball front bearings and you'd have a CS without as much money or waiting. It'll never be a CS but if you're going to mod it anyway.....
4. Protection - PPF on the carbon seatbacks. All weather mats in the back and the trunk. Don't let kids bring any bad food in the car. Use seat protectors under car seats and keep up with cleaning. I had an F10 535 and a Volvo V70R when my kids were little. Both had very light interiors (Oyster and Gobi Sand) and with proper gear, neither were a pain to keep looking nice! Sold both and people had no idea we had little kids in the car.
Thanks for the video!
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Great comment
100% second your comment. Was thinking of the same solutions in regard to the use with dogs and kids. Just raise them the right way, take the right precautions and you’ll be good!
You had the exact same idea as I had PPF those damn beautiful seats and you will have no worries
No overheating and no complain from the car even at that jump. Heavier but stronger. Loved the video.
You’ve found the perfect girl for yourself. The bliss on her face as you’re driving her around can’t help but make you smile and make it clear how much fun the lap is. I’m happy you both found each other. 😊
@@IEATU95 How is it cringe that he appreciates the chemistry between them?
@@IEATU95 cringe commenter
@@MrCheekyEyes hahaha so you don’t love anyone
I want that kinda love 😔
I love Megi's comment about the other Bimmer with the big kidney grill looking like a Capybara. I thought the same when I saw then😅
Same here 😂 I like the ones that light up in the dark the most.
Misha is a quick thinker and did not respond to that compliment 😂
lmaoo sounds like a roast but its so accurate
That S58 is solid, oil temp didn’t even move even when being hammered ! My S58 has done 75k miles and is still silky smooth and pulls as hard as when it was new.
A masterpiece from BMW
Wow 75k already? It's been out for just over a year.
@@xFlaredthe s58 been in the x4m and the x3m from 2019 and in the g8x m3/m4 since 2021 soo its easily achievable
@@xFlared it’s in the X4M mate.
The fact a lot of cars overheat and this barely goes above 100c on the oil just shows how good this s58 is. Love that engine.. Hope on day I like the front grill 😂
I just imported a Toyota Caldina GTT FROM Japan and love it. Get a wagon and make it your own. Fast sneaky wagons have a lot going for them. Quick and discrete.
im new to the channel and i just adored this whole thing! love the imputs and perspectives and being able to humbly driving at those speeds while having a general conversations is simply outstanding
Looks like it handles the track really well, and aesthetically the Touring is so good. The CS Touring would be incredible if you can get an allocation.
I really enjoyed this different type of video. A real-life pros/cons discussion of a realistic/attainable family car.
6:28 checking his watch in a family car whilst overtaking a Porsche 🤣
Got some notification. Checking for track warnings.
I think the M3 Touring is the sweetspot car, combining looks, performance and practicality. Would be a superb pick! Great to see Megi enjoying it too!
Not a touring owner but I've had my 23 M3 Comp (IOM Green Metallic) since December. I have no problems fitting my two daughters or my shepherd dog comfortably in the back and while I do try to take care of my cars and not scuff up the interior/exterior, with having a family stuff happens and I don't worry about it. I did not opt for the carbon buckets as track days for me are few and far between coming from a 2016 M3 that I did maybe 4 track weekends with but if I had the same opportunities you do for tracking the car I would have definitely opted for them (same for the carbon ceramic brakes). As I understand it, the high bolsters of the buckets seemingly do show wear more quickly than the standard seats. Other than that, it's an amazing machine and the only nitpicks I've had so far are the brake dusting and squeaking brakes (minor but something worth mentioning) with the steel brakes and stiffness of the suspension on longer rides over non-ideal roads. Other than that I love it and was worth the wait (ordered April 2022 and delivered Dec). I say go for it!
Pro tip Misha, if you get a car with bucketseats and are going to use the backseat for kids you can vinylwrap the back of the seats with clear wrap.
Vinyl wrap sign: Feet off the seats or we go in limp mode…
I have one for a month now. Dravit over silverstone full leather and carbon buckets. .I simply love it. Wife hates the seats for longer drives🥲😇. Real head turner and that is the only downside if you ask me as I’m not so fond of attention. It is my daily and we use a new X1 25e as our family car for holidays etc. Manhart MH-tronik upgrade installed. 630HP now and still save for the engine. Top end performance now is perfect. Best car I ever had simple. Cheers
I watched this soon after the “lambo STO” video (Sept 23) and what a difference in handling and Megi’s disposition. She feels safe in the M3 Touring at high speed. Such a contrast to the lambo STO lap. 😄 The fact that Misha and Megi are considering this a car to buy says so much about how amazing the M3 Touring is.
Your chemistry is amazing. Thanks for sharing, really enjoy watching from Canada!
Also, love seeing the 718 Spyder on temporary Euro Delivery plates at 9:05. Way to properly break in your new Porsche!!
Ive owned quite a few cars in my life - but my favorite of all time - was my 328d wagon with adaptive dampers. That thing floated and you never felt an imperfection of the road - and it got me 43mpg. Sold it when the market went crazy in 2021.
Some things aren’t worth the money. I learned the hard way.
this is just the most perfect wagon. to think it beat an rs6 as well 😍
In our family experience (2 cocker dogs+anna+us) if you REALLY want that car, then a trusted and serious cleaning place once or twice a month will wipe the problem (and dog hair) away. I was afraid of small little damage with 2 yrs anna, but I discovered it was a no problem. With a simple although refined interior sure no permanent signs of dogs/children activity
I love this car! I don't know if a cs touring will happen, and how much more expensive will it be, or how much better will it keep its value on the 2nd hand market compared to the normal one. The real questions that put me off for the cs (as a daily ofc) are, will it be as comfortable? What if you wait but you don't get an allocation? Is it worth dailying something "rare" with whatever this might include (small dents, scratches, normal signs of daily usage etc). And I personally don't like preordering products without testing them first. Whatever the case, we're already proud of you being a future bmw touring owner :D
Hi Misha,
Hi Megi,
As a dad and M3 Touring owner I can tell you: BUY IT!!! :)
...with the buckets there is so much space in the back, that my sons feet never touched the carbon-backpanels yet. Even if, its way easier to polish out little scratches by yourself then on normal plasticbackpanels I think. Then there is also plenty of aftermarked protection things you can buy from BMW, because inside its basically a G21.
AND there is only one thing cooler then driving an M3 Touring... it is driving it with children in the rear ;)
Cheers Tobi
This thing doesn't get tired of looking beautiful, it just makes me like it more the more I look at it
weird to call her "this thing", but i agree.
@@Schmerkihe’s talking about the m3
@@mustafamohammad1821He knows exactly what was meant. It's called a joke😉
@@MrMijnaccount1 Are these jokes done by loners who have never touched a woman or what?
@@Arcron or done by overweight males mostly
important fact is that the reason the turn signal sounds terrible on the new bmw G series is beacuse of the F series had a better sounding indicator sound so much so that MORE drivers were seen using their turn signals, due to this regard the engineers decided they must ensure they uphold BMWs reputaion for the least indicated car on the road
Those upshift sounds are mental af 😍
The G80 gives you that nice “clunk” on the hard shifts, really satisfying
Sweet car! I have a 98’ V70R. I’ve converted a 2019 x-drive wagon by welding sedan quarters on it, a carbon roofed 4door m chassis traded drive trains with it. Waiting to start a E46 touring concept tribute for a builder in Oregon. Both are clients. The paint will cost about as much as the metal work. Black shadow chrome for that one. Join the fast wagons club. No regrets.
One of the most surprising laps I’ve seen and you weren’t even balls out. Frankly outrageous that a 3 series estate can do this. The balance looked great, really pointy with stable corner exit but didn’t seem like a 4wd. Not too slow either..
Good observation but its 4wd, not only can you see it but its showing the 4wd icon on the gauge cluster
as a fellow dog owner a hammock for the back seat definatley helps with the hair. Mine is from Orvis (a outdoor/fishing brand) its easy to set up and take in and out and it takes the brunt of the dog stuff and you can just throw it in the washer
I'd love to see heart rate telemetry for you Misha the driver and for the passenger. Your so calm as you drive & chat with your lady doing at leat 2 thirds and above of the limit ;)
Your driving skills are on point! Relaxed and under control at those speeds, amazing!
imagine misha and his wife and kids take a crazy fast lap all together 😂😂
Honey we are going to be late (kids at school/ catching a plane/ store is about to close)
its ok we will be on time 5:17
lol it all seriousness its basically an SUV that's been lowered and given a race package. Its perfect. Loving this gunmetal color. As far as kids and pets go you can beef up the interior. You can buy heavy duty covers that cover the trunk and seats. My sister does that with her two dogs on her Hyundai Santa Fe. They just clip on various points with straps that go around head rests and other mounting points in the car. For the kids you can get some clear vinyl wrap that can be peeled and reapplied when it gets too torn up. There is also leather guard protectants and there are custom upholstery shops that can restitch the seats if you need at least in the states that how it can be done.
Maybe consider the Alpina b5 gt touring which looks better, have more space, has better performance, and is probably even more comfy. Would be nice to see a lap in one of those if its possible
PPF the carbon fibre back of the seats and get seat covers in the back. And of course change the front grill. Sorted!
"Talking cars" with Misha while doing a (fast) relaxed lap on the Nordschleife. 😅 To me it looked like you had a really good connection to the car.
And Megi obviously also enjoyed the lap(s) - I liked her point of view in the video. 👍
I just really cannot get used to the grill. However I wouldnt turn it down if someone gave it to me. I own an E39 540 Touring now and love it :)
What an amazing car. The seats, the shifts, the sounds. It’s got it all. I know 180k is a good amount for a car. But I’d say it would be damn worth it. My final point here is the COMPLETE 180 I’ve had on the new M Comp series. At first I wasn’t all for the grill, but man was I wrong. Almost ignorant haha, and if you get the approval from your woman, you know that car is special. Excellent driving as usual Misha!
180k what???
@@Nebbia_affaraccimieiPesos 😂
you can pick up a almost new m3 comp estate for 85k , dont think they've lost 100k value in 2000 miles
Love the car! As a father, I appreciate the concern for feet on the back of the carbon fiber seats. But I would think you could PPF the seat backs to protect them. Then dogs in the back with a net between the seats and cargo area?
Car looks good, is fast, seems easy to drive... Perfect for a family... Now... Its time to get married and build a family! Wish you the best my friend 🙏
If you don’t want to become a slave to the car, in my experience, don’t get matte paint. Absolute nightmare for everyday marks/scratches unless you’re going to PPF the entire thing.
mans flat out having a casual chat xD
Couple goals. You guys are great!
Finally a car that doesnt overheat halfway in the lap :D
The additional wear from kids and pets can be resolved with seat covers, cargo covers and PPF / Ceramic on the interior high value surfaces like the CF front seat backs. The
My goodness, if only BMW (and Audi) would sell their wagons in the USA.
It's incredible how much more she is talkative in the faster more dangerous sections. I think the g's does more for here lady garden
What the fuck?
Lol chill
Lovely looking car Misha but the one thing that is wrong on it is the Buck teeth front grill that all newer BMW's have now. The front grill should be half the size to look good.
If i had to choose a nice wagon style car this m3 touring would be it most people won't know what it is kinda a sleeper tbh and it's super easy to add power with a simple tube
I bought this car on 26 June 2024...
On 1st June we took a two-month vacation tour through France, Portugal and Spain...
That's a 10.000 miles road trip...
Damn best thing I have ever done in my life...
The car is "a beast..."
Lol! Loved this. Wonderful thing that our partners see the stuff that we do not typically consider. Also how supportive in ways we do not expect 🙏🏼
It really bothers me how the rear door meets up with the rear quarter panel. It looks like the fender flair just gets cut off when it meets the door.
Love my LHD converted EVO 9 Wagon. So much fun to drive and superb in daily use. In salty winters i drive a LHD converted manual Mitsubishi Legnum VR4 with EVO 9 AYC Rear Diff. Wagons are just great.
Recently visited Apex, did a few laps and stayed over night. Parked right next to this M3, my son loved it. To me though it's overkill and a bit pointless. If for whatever reason you can only have one car for track and daily, then sure. But people who have 100k+ budget might afford two cars.
The M340i makes sooo much more sense. Anywhere on the street youll be just as fast, while only using 60-70% of the fuel. Maintenance is probably less than half. Tires too. Then again you dont buy M3s and the like to be sensible. Quite a looker.
What I loved more than the car, was your interactions with each other.
I vote to add the car to your family, with the seats. I automatically thought, PPF the seat backs and plastic liner with a rubber cargo mat for the trunk.
Today I tried these carbon bucket seats from BMW and I think that those from Porsche GT4, Spyder, GT3 are much more comfortable despite the lack of adjustment, but it's nothing bad. The big screen is terrible, I wish BMW would on request mount the dashboard from the preLCI model. The rest of the car is really cool.
As a dad of 3 (young kids) I think you are fine with a 3 serie with one or 2 small kids. If they grow older or you get 3 kids better look for a 5 series. But that’s all so far away in the future I’m sure you will swap 5 cars in between so I would not invest in a 5 series yet if 3 is enough, cheaper and maybe even more fun.
Ps: those seats are 100% not child proof do they even have isofix? If you are planning to buy a kid soon (kidding ofcourse) then I would change seats for sure.
Misha! Great video as usual. Listen mate, maybe im saying the obvious here but if you're gonna invest that type of money into this type of machine please consider this with the whole dogs + kids aspect:
Ceramic coat it on the inside and use treatments for leather, but also PPF the inside carbon. Besides that i would get some type of good dog blanket you can hook up and have in the back seet (if you wont have a dog cage), this will mean that you can hook the dog up to a seatbelt with a harness and the dogs will sit on there like "blanket" that you can remove when you want.
I used this for all of my cars in the backseet when we had the dog with us.
Keep up the videos, cheers from Sweden
Go for it for a family car that is also track focused i think this is the best it's practical spacious comfortable and yet it can be trashed on a track and not complain even go around it fast plus you can tune it to 660 or 750 bhp if you want to
In my opinion the perfect family track car
And about the seats, I don't know what to do about the red leather, but you can ppf the carbon bucket seats
At 0:38 the same Dallara that nearly caused an accident while you were driving the GT3 goes by while you show the engine lol
Insane video and insane car: it is beautiful and seems built to be practical. Don't know how it would compare to RS4 but it definitely seems like a great family car
She's amazing !
Not even blinking with here eyes :-)
Awsome car, i have the 335d with 800nm now but this is the dream for the next one! You could clear wrap the back of the seats for the children and with the dog if you get a detailer it wil look almost new
Having had a CS I just ordered a 2025 Touring after a test drive. I would recommend the Touring unless you're on the track a great deal of time. With the CS, despite it being a great car, you're missing things like adaptive cruise , blind spot warning, more practical interior, not to mention a relatively comfortable ride. And the performance of the Touring is not far behind that of the CS.
Even tho I can't say that I've driven any of these 2 cars I have a preference for the Alpina models, like a B3 S or D3 over the M3 Touring. It's more refined and less sporty with a more sensible design, a touch of sportiness still with the body kit that only car guys will notice telling them not to mess with the car ( especially with the subtile Alpina decals) because it GOES! Definietly an Autobhan car that I woul prefer as my daily. Much less shouty.
15:20 smooothly throwing it in there Misha!
I think it's cool that they are offering the actual ///M colors. Often with these kinds of cars all you see are black, white, grey, etc....An ///M car needs to look as special as it is....in my opinion. We'll have to talk about that Frozen Tulum color though.... If you get one, you gotta take me for a lap!
What a smooth car this is, the way how it turns in is amazing, You can see it on the video!
Love your video's and really like your wife! love her accent haha. lovely couple!
Keep it up Misha!
I couldn’t agree more about the bikes on the track alongside cars. I’m a motorcyclist but I wouldn’t want to ride one on the ‘ring when were also on the track. There are too many differences between driving a fast bike and a fast car and that can result in huge speed differentials at some places and on a bike where the line can be more crucial it’s you who is vulnerable.
Heck you guys loved this vlog. Misha you drive and leave the reviews of the cars to your Megi so entertaining. Hope the race went well. Couldn’t help notice Megi had some kind of medical support on her leg so I just wanted to send best wishes for a good recovery from whatever the issue is. Greg 🇬🇧🚘🏁
You pair are made for each other, a really nice couple.
Maggie, is amazing. She just takes it all in her stride.
I recommend a wagon in the family, you'll need the room when the rugrats come along😉
Great video Misha, I couldn’t help but smile seeing how relaxed your wife was through the lap. I’d love the M3 Touring but out of my budget, it looks to be THE perfect all-rounder.
100% Misha....
If you have any insight that a CS Touring is coming, and you can get an allocation, I'd definitely jump on one.... otherwise, yes to the regular Touring Competition.
(Dravit Grey Metallic over Tartufo Full Merino for me, potentially an Isle of Man Green over the same, ok, maybe 3rd would be that gorgeous Aventurin Red Metallic over Black....or, go classic yet unique with a Brooklyn Grey over Fjord Blue leather... nobody is going to spec that.... yeah, that last one would be sick, with the Shadow Line DELETION and bi-color machined wheels...yup lol)
Now to that "ownership slave" point..
PPF on the buckets, rear seat covers for the pups, rear rubber load protector for the trunk....done... and just make sure you get it interior detailed once every couple months (between your typical self cleaning) to remove the dog hair that'll creep into areas....oh.... and don't get a "frozen" paint unless you plan on PPF'ing the entire vehicle to protect it, because the finish isn't going to last like your typical clear coated shiny paint(still PPF the high wear points).
Then again, if you plan on keeping it for the long run, the comparable Alpina "might" be the higher holder of resale value over the distance, seeing they're usually much rarer.
Bravo pour cette vidéo. Lors de la vente de mon coupé 335d pour cause d'ostracisation progressive en ville (Bruxelles, Paris...), j'avais essayé pour la remplacer les plus spacieuses Touring M340i et M340d, deux voitures dotées de moteurs particulièrement agréables. Je n'ai pas envisagé la M3 Touring car je la considérais comme inutilement radicale pour un usage quotidien (sans parler de l'écart de prix substantiel). Pour plus de sportivité j'ai la chance de pouvoir rouler en Porsche 991 et 981. La moindre consommation très nette du diesel, et la plus grande autonomie qui en résulte, m'ont fait choisir celui-ci. En conclusion par rapport à cet essai de Misha, comme voiture familiale d'usage quotidien, je recommanderais aux gros rouleurs de considérer comme alternative aux Touring M3 et M340i, la Touring M340d, un maître-achat.
Great video Misha, I am definitely sold on this car, I had a couple of wagons over the years with the rs6 c7 been the latest but I definitely think BMW are at the top of the game at the Moment especially with the M cars, I think you have sealed the deal for me on the m3 touring it looks so impressive on track yet been so practical for sure its the ultimate daily.
Hi,
consider buying 2 cars:
1) daily, f.e. BMW 330i touring (ok, 340i if you need more power, or X3) (that you would care a bit less)
2) weekends fun car M3 CS that you would care a bit more. And not drive it in winter time.
With such a setup M3 would be less exposed for small scratches and dents from others on parking lots. More over it wouldn't be exposed for extra wear made by dogs and - in future - by child or children. I know that Max and Martin from AutoTopNL use their M3's as daily (or M340i), so maybe you could ask them.
Of course you don't have to buy 2 cars now. For sure I'd go for extra cover to save seats from dogs claws.
Regards!
I must say that the S58 sound similar to the B58. There are some distinctive differences like the upshift sound, the B58 doesnt have that. I just love you can tell there basically the same engine.
Maybe you should do a testdrive on the Alpina? Should be a nice video! Ps you can ppf te carbonfiber part of the bucketseat for the kids & get easily some protection for the bumper if your dog joins the ride!
Great video sir, your wife is a legend just like mine, I made sure I asked and she said if it’s what you want go for it. As for style I went skyscraper grey for the gloss as my kids would destroy the Matt with McDonald’s greasy fingers, seats I hear you I went same colour as you but stock seats 2 reasons I love to shuffle in the seat as does wife and secondly I have some very overweight friends and I personally think they would destroy the bolsters on the carbons…..good luck in whatever you get. I collected it yesterday 13 miles on clock and as of today 145
I have that coral red interior (prolly called something else now LOL) in my '08 335XI coupe and it's GORGEOUS! Really what sold me on the car. Plus girls LOVE it🤣🤣
Such a cool couple! The capybara comment cracked me up 😂 100% get the M3 Touring. I got the F31 M340i Touring (MHD Stage 1 and XHP Stage 3) and absolutely love it. I have a small dog and put a dog crate in the boot (which just fits) with a dog bed inside it and that works really well. You can get pretty big dog crates, so if your dogs aren't massive they might be ok in the boot in a crate, or you can use the built in net that pulls up from behind the rear seats or even install a metal grill above the rear seats (although that does impede rear visibility a bit)
I have bigger family so I’d vote for a 5er wagon. Which I owned a F11 since 2012. Still running strong and love it.
Misha has the same nonchalant look on his face as I do driving my 10 min to work. Thing is I'm on roads with a 45mph speed limit and he's on one of most dangerous tracks in the world! Get it. This reminds me of the E46 wagon! The engine sound was awesome. You don't have to be a slave to the car, but you can just always, buy covers for the back seat. I don't care if i paid $60 for a car, i wouldn't let my kids color on the back seat lol.
8:55 An MX-5 always looks so cutely small compared to other cars.
that car is a beast. i love it, convenient and fast. enjoy it. looking forward to you driving it Misha. cheers brother
Misha, what about new RS4 Competition Plus??? Can it rival the M3? Just made 7:39 lap at Nordschleife..you probably know that 😉👍
This is a perfect family car, especially for you. On and off the track it's perfect.
Absolutely agree with Maggie concerning motorbikes on Nordschleife. It needs to be two separated sessions!
I got it for me (and my family😅) aswell and I spare out the bucket seats because of my kids! There is a cover for it but what’s the point then, so I went for the normale seats and I am very happy with it!
Couldn’t agree more. Mixing cars and bikes is not a great idea. Love the beemer.
Great video! Look at the centrifugal forces on her hair. You think it can't get any better and then BMW keeps going one step further.
I wouldn't buy carbon seats, because it's a touring. Everything would scratch it, it's not that practical, and yep: it's not ventilated. That I noticed, that BMWs' carpet in the trunk is very easy to clean, when it comes to dog hair. I think this is the perfect car. The purple color is perfect, with a burgundy, or coffee interior.
Love this touring simply much more beauty and in frozen amazing! And still perform amazing too!
It's incredible how capable the new g8x series is regardless of whether it's xdrive or rwd.The b58 was hailed for how great it was/is,but this s58 is another level.Definitely get a touring Misha and tune it at the very least
I don't think you should go CS. If the M5 CS is anything to go by, it will be significantly more expensive and a lot worse at what it's supposed to be. When they made the M5 CS, it saved like 70kg when similarly specd. (More savings compared to base, but you can add carbon ceramics to the base car as well for instance) But it had less sound deadening, rear bucket seats, no option for comfortable front seats, sound system, etc. Oh and all that at significant markup. It makes sense on something like an M2 if and only if you plan to run it as stock/near stock track tool. But as soon as you mod it heavily, it already falls apart, because you are going to strip it, put buckets in it, etc anyway, so it makes no sense. When we're talking about M3 Touring or M5, those aren't the cars that are supposed to be a track tool. Those are cars that can satisfy your car needs on the daily, but also perform well on the track from time to time. When you take a car like that and purposely make it noisier, with worse rear seating, with no options to make it more pleasant to be in AND you charge more, it falls apart as an offer. At least in my opinion.
I love how relaxed and seemingly un fussed you are and she has a combination of fear and excitement , awesome
@13:36 Holy-nO ! She's right bro . .
Option settings . Go to them . . Please .
Megi, I owned an 1996 850R, and I must edmit, it looks a bit outdated but it's a modern classic and will be very expensive to buy in 5 or 6 years, now it's just 12k voor a very good one, but the will go up to 20 or 30 and up to 60 or 80K in ten years time. That BMW will only drop in price and in 20 years maybee a classic but Misch would have sold it by then
I'm sure a PPF shop could put a film on the back of the seats to protect the finish from possible damage so you don't have to worry about that