Hawkgirl's CRAZY History - Comic Drake
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Hawkgirl is super popular because she was in Justice League, Legends of Tomorrow, and Injustice: Gods Among Us, but can you believe that Kenda Saunders/Shiera Saunders/Shayera Hol really isn't that popular?! Here's her history.
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Seems like the writers of the hawkman's and hawkgirl's story are just 'winging it'
ba dum tshhhh
+Jackson Doyle I disagree.
Heh. Hehe. Hehehe.
You, sir, are the pun master.
I love how Hawkgirl's and Hawkman's main form of attack is just beating a their opponents senseless with a mace like two majestic, flying, cave people.
Like that one player who just presses strike over and over again
They have no major recurring villains because they just kill them with a medieval magical mace.
@@misterx4608 based
Probably an easier way to sell the character:
"Who is this Hawkgirl person?"
"She is a superhero who flies."
"Like Superman?"
"But with actual wings."
"And what other superpowers does she have?"
"She smashes people's faces with a mace."
"I'm digging it!"
Yeah I can take a swing at it. 😏
His mace is anti-magic.
Lmao
Animated justice league Hawk girl is my personal favorite.
+Tsurugi Kage Fun Fact CiaraRenée (the Actress that Hawkgirl) study and use inspiration from JL/JLU´s
Hawkgirl to play the characther.
same here
Agreed!
XD
I’m saying.
The Arrowverse version of the Hawks is WAY simpler than any of these. Simply put Kendra Saunders and Carter Hol are reincarnations of ancient Egyptian royals whose spirits find each other every time their human bodies die. And that's it. SIMPLICITY!!!
And boring.
@@mayotango1317 I actually find it really cool
@@gavinlopez6258 Is just the pre-crisis one.
My first introduction to DC characters was the animated Justice League. I was always under the impression that Hawkman was the side kick to Hawkgirl.
So was I
I would love to see that!
That needs to be canon
I loved the animated Hawkgirl, she'll always be my favorite
Both Kendra and Shayera were recently brought back by Scott Snyder in Dark Nights Metal and his JL run so there's also that.
Imo, DC should drop the whole hawkman/hawkgirl pairing and just give us a thanagarian warrior Hawkwoman like the one from the Justice League cartoon. That's the version of the character that everyone knows and loves and that's for a reason. She's awesome and wayless complicated and ridiculous than this whole reincarnation/soul swapping fiasco.
Meh. There's already enough humanoid alien superheroes (especially in DC) as it is. The reincarnation origin is more unique and lends itself to more interesting stories.
I also want the Hawkgirl without pairing with Hawkman, because as long as she continues in that pairing she will be greatly overshadowed and will not get the value she deserves. Her origin in the comics is confusing, the character suffers from different versions. They should leave Shayera Hall as Hawkgirl, her story in the Justice League animation was very good, Bruce Timm had a good idea for the character. I would love for DC to wear it at DCU and in more DC comics, Wonder Woman needs a female companion
@@Elektrikkiss Imagine a WandaVision-esque show for the Hawks where each episode is the two reincarnating through different lives together, ending with them dying each episode. The show ends with Hawkman fighting the Shadow Thief, the spiritual embodiment of his love and obsession for Shayera, breaking their endless cycle of death and reincarnation. He dies so that Shayera can finally live a life of her own.
If you read the current comics, dc has been using the Kendra Saunders Hawkgirl to have her be similar to the Hawkgirl in JLU
Yes!!! Plus her and Green Lantern have some stuff to sort out
Donna Troy: "Hold my beer."
Ginger Grant up a new event coming up, what is it this time
XD
Ginger Grant LMFAO
True tho.
all i can say is WTF!?!!?
I'll stick with the Justice League TV series and take that as canon. All the rest is just confusing as the Us election.
Same here
i understood 2.37% of that
At least you understood more than 1%
i literally got lost and just admired the pictures lol. Animated version is so much better, She's a total badass, fierce and always fights well. Her military training, combat skills, and her strength is superior to that of humans, makes her a tough adversary.
Hawkgirl form Justice league should be the only one. After watching this video I care less about the comics about her.
Meh.
I like hawk girl a lot. Basically entirely cuz of the justice league cartoon. I don’t like her in legends of tomorrow though. I liked the alien one from hawkworld especially in the episodes based around it in the justice league series, especially ‘star-crossed’. She seems greatly improved in this series. Also like the one in earth 2.
I prefer the Thanagarian/JLU Hawkgirl character more because Kendra really annoys me but I prefer the reincarnation/love relationship between Hawkgirl and Hawkman better. I love them because no matter what crazy backstory or universe we're talking about they always love each other. They are like the greatest love story! Just super weird and confusing..... Lol
I honestly think that the best decision would have been to just both pairs of Hawks coexist, like the Flashes or the Lanterns, because IIRC at some point the made Carter the Hawkman in the original Justice League of America, the original sin was thinking that they needed to do something different from Jay and Allen (and Al, and Wesley).
So, are we going to get a follow up with the NEW versions of the hawks. Carter Hall replacing Katar Hol after he dies, Kendra becoming the JL's hawkgirl and Shayera being alive and becoming her animated counterpart down to her hair color changing and wearing the armor she wore in Starcrossed.
Animated Hawkgirl was awesome, I had no idea the backstory was so convoluted
It kinda seems like no one actually read any of this character's preceding story before adding her to new ones.
Geoff Johns or Grant Morrison REALLY need to give the Thanagarians a goddamn book. Secret New Origins and ALL.
4:36 ."where she retried from [being a superhero] and became a cop in Detroit... where she was partnered with RoboCop after Officer Louis was working homicide as a Detective."
My personal favorite is the animated series Hawk girl
I have no fucken idea what I just watched. It is nice listening to you yabber on, though.
Hahaha well literally of course it's in the titles, you are kind of a dork some times, Drake XD
I guess you have to be with the kind of comments we make, but keep up the passionate content ;)
***** And "dork" was not meant as derogatory, of course ;3
I think I'm just going to focus on something much simpler like rocket sience.
I like the DC animated justice league version of hawk girl cause it's more simple and less complex to the mind
So basically hawkgirl and hawkman's story is just as complicated as blaze blue's story
I like the animated Justice league one better
Wow, I think this beats Spider-Boy with how needlessly complicated it is. Making that video actually gave me headaches, too. :P
Hopefully you don't have PTSD when someone points out a hot girl. :P
I like the animated justice league version more than the legends Hawkgirl. Her personality meshed with me more and the mythos overall was more interesting to me.
animated is da best thing ever
yish! i'll just go with dcau version
Jl/Jlu hawkgirl/shiera hol will always be the best
I still remember the Justice League cartoon's version of her, she will always be my favorite version of the character.
My head hurts.
Thank you Blackfire for killing Hawkwoman and trying to end some of this Hawk confusion!
HawkGirl from The Justice League cartoons is my favorite.
hands down justice league anime. having her choose sides made her human shes so underrated
I’ve always assumed that hawk-girl was the more popular one and Hawk-man just happened on be there
Well i really liked hawkgirl but DC did way too much things with her story they ruined one of my favorite characters. smh she was good in the animation though
And Kendra Saunders was in Dark Knights metal as well, as the leader of the Blackhawks.
You'd think after rebooting their universe a third time that DC would want to keep this simple. I'd like to see the Thanagarian Hawkgirl make a comeback in the comics.
+Hawdkoah Right now they are just focusing on her earth 2 version which is just a human who was given wings by an ancient Egyptian spirt.
Justice League (tv series) made me like Shayera and John Stewart who are both underrated as fuck in their comic iterations. Now if only they got the same amount of love and care in the comics...
That's why we made our own hawkgirl cannon for our DC role-play, it's pretty good.
Imma just stick with the HawkGirl from the Justice League cartoon lol. Only one I cared about
Man it is a shame that things got more complicated after this episode was written and Dark nights metal came out a few months later.
4:39 Sheiara retired from crimefighting into…crimefighting.
Could you make video about Hawkman and Hawkgirl's son Hector
I like both depictions of Hawkgirl. However I think that the Days of future past hawkgirl incorporated more of her past history. and reincarnations make a lot of sense now after hearing her past. The writers basically cleaned up her story and gave her a super villain powerful enough to keep people interested.
The Justice League cartoons made me fall in love with Hawkgirl. I love seeing her wreck shit, it's so cathartic. God I want her to step on me.
Nope, nope, go to horny jail *Smack Smack Smack
So when do we get the updated video explaining how Kendra Saunders shows up after Dark Knights Metal and has a relationship with J'onn?
6:01 “Starfire’s sister Blackfire.” Wow. Just. Wow.
The Justice League cartoon was great, but it brings me a lot of anger when people have that as their only knowledge of the DC universe, and think Hawkgirl and Green Lantern John Stewart are actually great characters.
+The Fantastic Paul Sadly the same can be said for marvel fans who have only watched the movies. Some people are just unwilling to devote time to do proper research on characters.
+KON- EL i hate that my dad dos that for starwars and dc and marvel
+bley43 he's superfluous
+braam saget he has a good personality and character in the comics just because he ill used doesn't make him a bad character
They’re both great characters, I just hate that they were together at all. That’s like splitting up Reed Richards and Susan Storm, they screwed Hawkman over big time.
And then in dark knights metal we meet lady black hawk, named Kendra Saunders, except this time she is the reincarnation of some Egyptians, and she gets corrupted, briefly turns evil (for like a page or 2) and gets her wings back, fights alongside Wonder Woman, and now she is a part of the justice league (and renames herself hawkgirl). So now we just have 1 hawkgirl.
Animated Justice League’s Hawkgirl is the best version and my personal favorite character in the show
And two years later... there is a new Hawkgirl! (see "Dark Nights Metal" and "Justice League"). :D
Hawkgirl and hawkwoman are better than hawkman
+Finlay Allan Why?
they change him so much they never get him right
@@dark3rthanshadows Well you could easily say the same thing about Hawkgirl.
Animated version by far.
Love em both and, after this, very glad i never got into her comic book characters. Sheesh! Sweet concise coverage, thank you.
My head hurts. Now THIS is the most confusing superhero.
0:34 all-over-the-placeness by association.
hawkgirl is my favorite superhero. her history is so crazy. Is this true?
readers:did you die?
suicidal hawgirl: sadly yes... BUT I LIVED
Did they really "fix" everything though?
no
mmkay then
Just like the legends of tomorrow "fix" time haha
As they say... They "screw up time for the best"
Yeah I think I'll just stick with the Justice League cartoon version of Hawkgirl thanks. Way less confusing and thanks to the fact that she has her own agency and isn't a forced tie-in to Hawkman, is more fun of a character to watch.
Dang Hawk Girl might be even more confusing than Hawk Man...
3:51 like father, like son.
Hawkgirl: Katar I want to talk about our confusing history.
Hawkman: meh!
6:46 I wish I could, Drake. I really do.
Hawk girl is my favorite dc character from justice league cartoon . I got dc bombshells funko pop of hawk girl .
animated justic league hawkgirl all the way
Now this sort of makes a little more sense than Hawkman's history, probably because she was a support character for Hawkman. Though still very confusing. I like how Legend's of Tomorrow explains the (Arrowverse) history of the two characters. It will be cool to see Golden and Silver Age Hawk couples back in continuity, since I like their stories best.
The Hawks are so confusing for no reason.
They're so confusing that Drake had to explain it AGAIN.
And I'm still not sure if I get it.
Kingdom Hearts is easier to understand!
dcau hawkgirl
Hawkgirl is better than Hawkman. I might just be bias because of the TV show though.
The one where Hawkman is a creepy stalker and expects Hawkgirl to remember their past lives, or the one where Hawkman is a creepy stalker and expects Hawkgirl to remember their past lives?
Calvatron, Lord of Nothing
Hawkman is a creepy and a stalker in both the Comics and TV Shows so what's you're point
Shiera Hall is cool and all, but I prefer my Hawkwomen to call their partners "Peacock!"
Tim Truman is where I came in and I'm sticking with that.
Oy.... would it be possible for someone to make a graph or timeline of all the different Hawk-people?
They could do a series called the Hawk Family, Hawks of Justice, or something like that, and have all the versions in one team.
Stay calm, now we have a hawkgirl and a hawkwoman, dc rebirth
My headcanon is the one from the Justice League cartoon, only added that one of their reincarnations were the Hawkman and Hawkgirl of the Golden Age, they were part of the Justice Society and died during battle. Later, they reincarnated as the modern age Hawkman and Hawkgirl from the Justice League
Yea but it made hawkman a douche.
Animated By Far.
Just subscribed. I think your a very underrated comic book channel you make very great videos and you deserve more subs. Keep it up Drake.
And this is why the DC Universe kind of needed that Flashpoint reboot.
7:25 the simple fact that you have to say “the main DC Universe” demonstrates that DC desperately needs to get their shit together and stop shuffling the multiverse around every 5 minutes.
Animated Hawkgirl. She is the only Hawk I like (fuck off Hawkman lol)
... I hurt myself in confusion again and I thought hawkman was confusing
LOL at hawkman creeper can i come in moment.
This video is officially called: how to make your brain go crazy in less than 8 minutes.
I'm kinda glad I don't follow comics nowadays. My brain just can't handle it no more.
I did like the Hawk folks from the Justice League animated series though.
+Comic Drake Oh well that shows how far behind I am. Lol.
I reckon the last individual issue I bought was from the late 90s.
Man they DID NOT skip retcon day did they.
I vote animated.Not because the Live-Version sucks but because the animated gives me less of a headache than the comic version, while still being interesting. Dunno how the RealLife version is comaring since I havent seen much of her anyway :p
Now it is a Hawkwoman/girl in the dc's main universe.
I love this acid trip with ladybirds, Bro
u explain the hawks better than anyone ive every heard thank you
plus u offer good visuals... i know to explain the hawks must hav took days if not weeks of research... the hawks are arguably the toughest story to explain in comics
Animated justice league :P
You can add reincarnating Angel of the Lord to Hawkgirl's complicated history.
TBH DC would be better off if they just settled on a pair of Hawks and stopped sweating the continuity. No one's gonna give a hoot about a bunch of books published 30+ years ago or the confusion surrounding them if they would publish Hawk stories about literally anything other than shuffling them around and trying to fix the continuity.
The problem is there's so many different interpretations of the Hawks and every writer and editor has their own picks as to which ones are their favorites, so everyone keeps trying to shuffle their history around so they're writing their favorite hawks. No other character has this problem. Hawkman being so niche really adds to the problem. Everyone has a kind of mythologized idea of who Superman or Batman is, you can mess with the specifics but the broad strokes are always gonna be the same, Hawkman not so much.
Kendra being the Hawk in the Legends of Tomorrow show will probably help stabilize things for a while. DC will probably want that sweet brand synergy. The inevitable Hawkman movie I imagine we'll get if DC ever get's it's film game together will hopefully do the same.
This is so confusing, but you did a great job explaining it
I haven't seen the Arrowverse version of Hawkgirl, yet, but I enjoyed the DCAU version of her as a kid.
And this is why distillation and abridgement are a necessity.