Healing Simultaneous With Forgiveness
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- This clip is from The Atheist Experience, Episode 28.24 for June, 16 2024 with JMike and Darante’ Lamar!
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It seems that according to Mad Jim Castleberry and Deflectin Damon Kenny, the fact that a cabbage has no belief on whether or not there is any gold on the planets of the Alpha Centuari star system means it's stupid for anyone to say, "I neither know nor care" when asked, "Is there gold on any of the planets of the Alpha Centuari star system"?
So, if I damage someone, but they recover, and I happen to have a warm fuzzy feeling, then everything is okay again no matter what the damaged person thinks?
Boy, that is like having a scapegoat to unload your guilt on.
God can't forgive you, only the people you've wronged have the ability to do that.
Matthew 18:15-20
Jesus commands that if a fellow believer sins against you, you should go to them in private and tell them what they did wrong. If they listen, you've won them back and restored your relationship. If they don't listen, you can bring one or two others with you as witnesses to establish the truth. If they still refuse to listen, you can tell the church, and if they still refuse, you should treat them as you would a pagan or tax collector.
Luke 17:3-4
If your brother sins against you, you should rebuke them, and if they repent, you should forgive them. The verse also says that if they sin against you seven times in a day and repent each time, you should still forgive them.
Matthew 5:23-24
If you've harmed your brother in any way, you should go and reconcile with them, not just physically, but in your heart. The verse also says that if you bring a gift to the altar but remember that your brother has something against you, you should leave your gift and reconcile with your brother before making your offering.
@@EchoChamberDwellerdo you have anything relevant to my post? Bozo
God CAN forgive you, for ALL have sinned & fall short of God’s standard - which is why He provided the Good News of the Gospel 👍👍👍
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED--OUT
Is that why you keep sinning with counterproductive preaching?
@neal
Is that the way you keep sinning by rejecting your Creator!
…& you have the nerve to call yourself a theist!???
It's a really absurd argument to claim that being incapable of belief through not having a brain etc is equivalent to a sapient who's capable of belief lacking one particular belief.
It's just another silly attack on the definition of atheism because they have nothing to substantiate their own theism and that upsets them.
That's the Darth Dawkins talking point that fellow trolls think is a really clever way to reverse the burden of proof. But it's just idiotic. It doesn't work even if we assume that this makes atheism "I believe that the claim that a God exists is false" because to my knowledge no one actually thinks it's reasonable as a matter of principle to demand that people disprove every claim they believe to be false. As with any expression of disbelief, the burden is only to explain why they think their position is reasonable.
It's rather like saying that somebody going on a fifty mile hike is weak, because their backpack made the journey without any muscles.
Non-Sequitur Hour with Mad Jim Castleberry: "a tree stump doesn't believe anything, therefore you must accept MY God claims as true by default!" 😅😅
Do these trolls actually think about what they are saying?
I'm surprised that JEdith didn't get any votes as the most ignorant troll. Maybe because I used the name JEdith, which I meant to be like JMike.
Is that a direct quote, or a paraphrase/summation of an argument he made?
I've explained to him the difference between implicit and explicit atheism, but he'd rather be wrong than abandon his pathetic argument.
@@quecee Did I score any votes?
@@EchoChamberDweller You've seen some of the competition. You're going to have to really work on it, if you want to be as ignorant as these guys.
I really enjoy Mr. Lamar`s explanations & rationale. I think everyone has a level of empathy which is largely innate.I can't kill a bug, ( well most, ticks are on my hit list), not because of some god but because of my empathy for all living creatures.
@@RickLambert963 has your husband kicked you to the doghouse again?
He has a YT channel. He even interacts in the comments. It's a good channel, worth subbing to.
I liked that caller he made me laugh.
Forgive me. It's only a brain injury.
It should be remembered that the concept of forgiveness is not unique to Christianity. Christians claiming ownership over it continue in what I call an imperialist tradition of illegitimately claiming exclusive ownership over things.
LIARS and their LIES and deceits WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
Filling the world with LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
3. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
will
definitely result in dishonor, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
of
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, fanatics of all kinds of Religions, and Atheists.
HUMAN BEINGS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER
The Creator KNOWS
that he is using the BIBLE to reveal the TRUTH
that
his favor and reward to lowly, ordinary, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
is
ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
and
the Creator also KNOWS
that
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are the guarantee
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854so you'll soon be gone?
Cool one less liar for god.
What's unique about Christianity is creating a guilt that can't be humanly erased. So even being as perfect as Jesus is not sufficient because everyone has the burden of the original sin.
So they create an insurmountable problem. And they provide the ONLY answer to the problem.
@@quecee Nice strawman. Got anything to back up those dishonest misrepresentations?
Just _ad diem_ fallacy from the Damonkey.
Dont forgive authority figures who abuse their authority
Rick
Fellow theist here.
Take it easy on those “consciousness expanding plants”
@@EchoChamberDweller I am not Rick I am Dick
@@RickLambert963 I don’t think I need pagan-based nature worshipping enlightenment rituals or sensory deprivation chambers to believe in God.
“Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” is a verse that seems to directly contradict your message for what I need to do and think in order to believe properly.
I think you’ve become overly proud of yourself in your beliefs, and fail to direct glory towards God.
I’m glad I have your attention for just a short while because of how it prevents you from serving as an embarrassment for theists more than the modern Atheist Experience Podcast is occasionally embarrassing for Atheists.
@@RickLambert963 You have become overly proud of yourself in your beliefs and practices, and fail to direct glory and worship towards God.
“Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”
OooooOhhh! It's a troll-off! Fun! 😂
With a god, all things become morally permissible as long as you accept and practice the sin/forgiveness ritual. The buybull even encourages sin and prefers sinners over non-sinners. In the Mormon religion, if you refuse to forgive someone, you are condemned as a sinner. This means that when grape happens, the church tells the victim that they must forgive their attacker. They try to keep everything in the church, and do their very best to sweep it under the rug. I think other churches do this as well.
Wrong, it's written......Hebrews 10:26-27,30
[26]For (if we sin willfully) after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
[27]but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
[30]For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.
No such thing as ......I can sin and keep asking for forgiveness. There's a moment when repentance and forgiveness becomes impossible, as it happened to Essau, it's written of him : Hebrews 12:16-17
[16]lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.
[17]For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears.
This is why many atheists who rejected God and became more mockers of him can no longer turn back unless by pure providence.
Those in churches who like to play the role of prophets have another thing coming as it's written of them:
2 Peter 2:1-3
[1]But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
[2]And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
[3]By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
@georgeaguilar6996. We atheists don't mock your pretend god, we mock you believers.
@@georgeaguilar6996*A **_Book Full of Errors Says a Thing_** Fallacy.* Derp!
@@georgeaguilar6996It's almost like your book says things inconsistently and you end up having denominations that vary.
Has silly season arrived early this year?
Or is this fallout from all the hypocritical Trumpite Christians?
It's kind of funny watching theists contort themselves into new and entertaining pretzel shapes to reinvent their religion in the face of such overwhelming evidence of religion being nothing but mythological ramblings.
Science needs to be re-invented every time new evidence helps us prove scientific consensus wrong.
Meanwhile, even the radical discovery that the earth is a globe had little to no effect on religion.
Applying Occam’s Razor to address an accusation of conspiracy, by eliminating assertions about other parties and their motivations,
Maybe the simple truth is that you and your peers attack religious ideas by twisting and contorting them yourselves,
Which is why you see such weird distorted situations every time you interact with religion.
By analogy,
If, every time you drive a car, the world seems distorted and blurry, and a lot of collisions happen that result in angry outrage towards you
maybe you should stop putting on beer-goggles before you drive instead of insisting that other people are really bad drivers.
@@EchoChamberDwellerscience needs to be reinvented? Do you know how dumb your comment is?
Isn't forgiveness achieved by torture and death of ones offspring as a sacrifice?
So basically, no kids = no currency for forgiveness...
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Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠✌️
Completely wrong.
@@georgeaguilar6996 but that's the core of your belief
@@georgeaguilar6996 Saying it's wrong and showing it's wrong are two different things 🤭
Thank God for setting the example that child sacrifice is how you forgive others 🙏
@@smochygrice465 I'm assuming that you believe that you have to have children to have them slaughter so you can be forgiven, is this thought of yours right? and if so, how did you arrive at this conclusion?
@@georgeaguilar6996 Easy, as this is how God forgave man for his sins, by having his own son sacrificed.
Leading by example, or are you suggesting that God's methods are questionable?
Peace Love Empathy ✌️
Seems someone deleted her thread again after getting her hypocrisy and lies exposed 😂
They're getting worse and worse.
@@RickLambert963 He's literally talking about a plurality of persons.
Lettered synthetics using internet intellect
Jim Castleberry and Damon Kenney think it's a gotcha against atheism that an unconscious person can't affirm a belief in God!
They are actually arguing against their soul. They act like their soul blinks out of existence during unconsciousness.
And have they explained how dreams are possible? Are all dream characters atheists?
@@quecee Certainly you couldn't believe in God while dreaming
@@quecee QC doesn’t know what unconscious means. He think it means consciously aware dreaming.
@@amtlpaul Pauliar you’re really doubling down on some idiotic argument about consciously aware dreams. Are you illiterate?
@@amtlpaul Pauliar unconscious doesn’t mean a consciously aware dream. You’ve exhausted all of your gaslighting strawman fallacies.
Sparty can't even properly use common latin phrases. Why does he pretend he knows what he's saying?
I guess that makes him _sui generous_ [sic].
When yelling at the sky it doesn't matter to them
@@nealjroberts4050 He STILL doesn't realize all the times he used sui "generous" in his spam.😂
Why give a definition of sui generis if he's not going to use it?
@@quecee
It's like "I know I made a stupid typo and copy pasted it umpteen times but I'm not going to admit it and edit. Instead I'm going to pretend it was deliberate and that you're stupid for noticing" 🤣🤣🤣
@@queceeHe also doesn't realize that pride has more than one meaning.
@@nealjroberts4050 You've got it.
And this isn't the first time I've pointed out the error so that they can fix it in their script. But they don't bother fixing it. Whoever programmed the SpartyBot should take this as a defect report. But considering the quality of their script, I doubt they'll fix it.
John 3 16 invites you to know God's love, forgiveness, mercy, and promise to you. As you draw near to Him, He will draw near to you.
😂
If, If, If, If. If Keith had a more adult, cogent, rational, critical thinking, logical brain, we would not be listening to his utter BS.
First ❤❤❤
Interesting that Shelley Segal performed an atheist song titled “Saved”…
…& now for an authentic song titled “Saved”
Artist: Kutless
Song: Saved
Check it out & listen closely to the lyrics!
This song rocks, …you won’t be disappointed! 👍💪
Because singing your mythology makes it believable when every argument for the existence of any god fails?
@tmurphy
stop your cryin’ & just listen to the song!
What are you afraid of….
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED--OUT No one is crying and no one with the ability to think is afraid of your fairy tale. Maybe you should stop letting people kick you in the head.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED--OUT We just don't want to waste our lives, like you're doing by worshipping something that isn't real.
@@ApatheticFish3667 Exactly. I've got more important things to do. Watching a snail crawl across a leaf is far more interesting than listening to a song about someone's delusions, not to mention snails are real.
JK Rowling for leader of the Western world 🌍 kick the system of US Prez out now !!
Nope.
I'm sure that you are hoping that the Orange Buffoon grows a tiny moustache, adopts a red arm band and a straight armed salute, before rounding up the "rainbow people"...
... and coming up with a "solution".
@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2
That ol' orange orangutan would sell Females out to the highest bidding Trans Team in a second 💰💰💰at least ol' sleepy Joe is upfront about his allegiance to the artificial bogus He 'women'.
Joey's Vice prez. Karamel Harpoon , is an embarrassment traitor to Females.
US system is through finished kaput!
Being on the British TERFS !
Go JK Go JK put your hand up Ms Rowling !
Honest gal the way a real strong woman could lead !
Selling Americans on a British ruler would be a hard sell. We had a war about that last time.