Just realized that in the video, I actually spelled “Grote” as “Grout” (which is the way I pronounce it anyway). I think it’s a “Boston Thing” 😎 I think I will just call it “Bob” from now on....
Addendum to my previous comment - I did add the pickup spacer and upgraded the tuners. But the best upgrade I found is to replace the soft wood (pine?) bridge support with a rosewood or ebony one. Volume and sustain are greatly improved! Also, the fretboard is very thirsty - I applied several coats of mineral oil and this improved the "feel" quite a bit. I absolutely love this guitar!
Just changed my bridge and support for an old rosewood one I had in my parts stash and man it's a HUGE improvement. Thanks for the tip. It's like I have a new guitat
Hi Bill…thanks so much for watching and commenting. Truly appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts…much thanks and glad to hear you enjoyed it! 🎸👍
Tape the screws to the pick guard then throw the pick guard away. The guitar is more attractive without it. Bought the same guitar. What a deal. Thanks for the video.
I always take my pickguards off if possible. I think my guitars look better that way. I think the Grote looks better without the guard, its a cool looking guitar anyway. I've watched about a half dozen reviews on this guitar and as much as I really need another guitar, I'm getting the urge to buy one. Thanks for the video.
Mr. 1000!! Good to hear from you! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! On the new 335 model, they have gone back to the embossed truss cover, so I think I convinced them! 🤣 Appreciate your stopping in! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Yes, I saw that in your green 335 style unboxing, sitting all nice and sassy on the stand. She's a real beauty! I wouldn't mind owning one myself, but I'm not a big fan of trapeze tails, but still a cool piece. And I need ONE more guitar! 😁 Ahhh, dang it, Amazon doesn't have it anymore. 😢
Just received my Amazon Cherry Red version. No noxious odors noted. No fret sprout whatsoever. No binding "bleed" anywhere. A few polishing/buffing flaws here and there. Overall an amazing value at $179. I will add the pickup spacer and will replace the strings with D'Addario Half-Rounds and the tuners with Gotoh keystone-style. No other modifications planned. I like how "loud" this guitar is when unplugged!
Jeff Ames Nice! This has been my only venture into the Grote brand, but I really wanted this style guitar to add to the arsenal and Grote made it affordable with a very nice version for the $$. Agree with your assessment! Very nice guitar. See my review of this on the channel and thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with your mods...and enjoy! 👍
That truss rod cover just slides over to adjust it. That thing was tightned down so hard I thought the screwdriver was gonna go through the headstock LOL..... Good video sailor
The new (old) cover does, yes. The old (new) one didn’t. 😎 I wanted it tight enough we’re it didn’t dangle every time I lifted or tilted the neck and exposing the two extra holes from the 1st one….it still slides over if I push it, but not on its own. Thanks so much for watching and commenting…. Appreciate your stopping in! 👍🎸
Another wonderful review. Love the pickin...very tight...but so...cool... Sorry, not trying to appear patronizing, but wow... Mods were great...learned a nice trick. Thank You. Wonderful sound...
Great video Jimmy thanks for your time and expertise! I think I’ll do the same upgrades as well! Looks good without the pick guard! Mine came with the same truss cover as your replacement! Beautiful guitar and I love to play it!🙏🏻
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! When did you get your jazz box? Perhaps they went back to including the embossed truss cover now (I did write them about it). Raising the P90 made a huge difference for my style, which allows the mids to come through cleaner, and I do like the look without the pick guard! Thanks again, and hope to see you around the channel! 👍
@@1cleandude That’s great! They must have listened to me on the truss cover...😎 When they made the change to the binding the F holes, they dropped the truss cover so good to hear they brought it back! Enjoy the guitar and thanks for letting me know. Appreciate it, and don’t be a stranger to the channel ok? Stay safe! 👍
@@1cleandude Thanks for watching and commenting! I didn’t notice any additional 60 cycle after raising the pup. If anything, I believe it to be cleaner. P90 poles to bottom of strings are about 2.5 mm on the bass end and 2.25 on the treble end. I think the shim I used here was good for what I was needed. It still allows for individual pole adjusting and I can still bring the action down a tad if needed.
intrigued,,,,,,quote.....yes, I did remove the shim, however it’s all personal preference really. By specs, the P90 is to low on this guitar. After playing it with the shim, and more recently without, I am now preferring the sound without it. I think most (myself included for awhile) would prefer it shimmed. The preferences could change again...i wonder if theres a big difference...
Hi David…thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, by specs the P90 is low. I have played it both ways and have preferred it without recently. Who knows what tomorrow might bring…😎
Mr. Stewart, On your recommendation I purchased the GB-300 in natural finish and its a really great guitar a welcome change from the strat, tele hegemony that floods the market. I purchased a new nut a Tusq and some flat wound strings. I'm a little shy about stripping her down to her knickers to make the changes but will persevere. (No guitar techs for a 140 mile radius and even then its kind of shakey since the plague). The only time I went to the tech desk at GC they quoted the woman who took it in for me 600$ for a string change and the associated setup work. My primary point is to thank you for your honest and accurate reviews. I'm looking for a tele style guitar now, one with a hollow/semi hollow body and coil splitting could you make a suggestion please. Keep up the good work your a valuable asset to the online guitar universe.
I forgot to add I also got the pick up spacers to raise the pup closer to the strings. On the recommendation of Matt another YT contributor I lowered the bridge on my SX tele to get some twang in the sound. Before that it was lacking a tWanger. Sometimes adjustments to guitars seem counter intuitive. My bucket list is to modify the GB-003 with a cutaway and a Guitar Fetish floating tremolo, a Bigsby type Trem that attaches only to the bottom strap button so no screws in the soundboard or body of the instrument. That will take care of the wiggle stick now A cutaway would sure be sweet. If a luthier appears somewhere in my territory I might pick up another 003 and have the cutaway mod done to it.
Hi Stephen…congrats on your new Grote Jazz box! Doing the setup work yourself is not only going to save you the $$, but allows you to know the instrument a lot better and get it setup to YOUR specifications. Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and the kind comments here! Much appreciated! If you are looking for a good budget Thinline Tele style, IYV has the ITF-300 NA with dual humbuckers and they have the ITF-400 TRD with dual P90’s as well. Neither has coil splitting, but I know some who have modded the 300 NA to coil splitting. The 400 has P90’s so no need (they are single coils). Both are very nice guitars and well worth the current cost on Amazon.
@@stephanpayne1841 P90’s like to be closer to the strings…wide, flat magnets (no poles). Just the nature of the beast…😎 You can of course mod your guitar to whatever you want, but I would not add anything to the Jazz box outside of raising the dogear pup. You could simply grab a cut-away style like the IYV styles have and have both!! 😎👍
In your more recent review you mentioned that you ended up taking the shim out and so leaving the P-90 at the stock position. Perhap somehow you could update your review or note it somehow. That could save some people from the cost of buying a shim. I do agree with your decision to remove the pickguard and the truss rod cover looks better too.
Thanks for stopping in Louis…yes, I did remove the shim, however it’s all personal preference really. By specs, the P90 is to low on this guitar. After playing it with the shim, and more recently without, I am now preferring the sound without it. I think most (myself included for awhile) would prefer it shimmed. The preferences could change again…😎 Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 👍🎸
Everyone should do this once without removing the strings. After that, they will learn not to drive themselves crazy trying to do it without removing the strings.
Jimmy, I was yelling at you not to take the top screw off the pick guard. I told you the nut would fall through the f hole! Unfortunately you couldn’t hear me through RUclips and a year back in time.
Ha!Ha! 🤣 You should have yelled louder Big Poppa! 😎 Fortunately, I am the king of F-hole screw removal….appreciate your stopping in to the channel…thanks so much for watching and a good smile! 👍🎸
Looking at 16:36 to the video, it appears the strings are heavily biased to the treble side of the fretboard (high e appears on the binding), and not located over the P90 nubs. Assuming you've not adjusted it by, that's like caused by the floating bridge having shifted to the treble side of the guitar. Should be slid back so everything lines up again. Great vid that showed me how to do the shim, and where to get it, which is nice. Hate it when someone tells me to get something and then neglects to mention where, what part no., etc.
Hey Upload..thanks for watching and commenting. I have since the recording of this, changed strings and realigned the bridge so everything is good! Yes, the floating bridge will shift on you especially doing this without removing the strings. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and glad you enjoyed the video! Much appreciated! 🎸👍
Well i am glad i watched your video! I am getting ready to raise my pickups too, and now i will just remove the pickguard screw from the brace so i won't drop it into the f hole. So thanks for that. Now let me finish the video.
@@JimmyStewart1 Yes sir, i would have dropped my nut into the guitar if not for seeing your video. I actually did put the pick-guard back and it was no problem. Guitar does have a noticeable better tone now. So thanks again for the video.
@@dlmullins9054 Great news, and glad I was able to help! Appreciate your kind comments and hope to see you around the channel! Don’t be a stranger, ok? Stay safe! 👍
2bikemike I don’t know about that, but thanks! 👍 Back in the day, I went to IRS tax school. I suppose I could simply read the news, and comment on what Congress may or may not do with a Stimulus Bill every day and have over two million by now!! 🤣🤣
Outstanding vid .I've been running into this guitar on and off for about 3 years.I had watched many many vids on this thing too.I started on bass influenced by Sir Paul & Tim Bogert of Vanilla Fudge(1967).Then learned,some chords on a 6string and goodbye bass.If I had regrets it would be that.I would have taken lessons ,theory etc.After several steel st. acoustics I settled in with nylon st guitars.So that's that Now I wanna get a little something diff.and Groat is the way I'm headed.Jimmy what's with the cap?That Coronado really served in many important capacities.I'd better stop.OMG..........Dave
Hi Dave! Thanks for stopping in to the channel! I remember T.B well…especially when he teamed up with Jeff Beck and Carmin Appice 😎 after the Fudge! I have played bass on and off for years as well…comes in very handy during recording sessions…I think you would enjoy the Grote….nice Jazz box that won’t break the bank and sounds/looks/feels very nice, especially at this price point. I was on board the USS Coronado from 1987 to 1990 while stationed in Pearl Harbor Hawaii, though I spent the vast majority of that time in the Persian Gulf….Desert Shield/Desert Storm….we were 3rd Fleet Flag during that time. It was also were I made Chief in 1989… Thanks again for watching and commenting. Much appreciated….👍🎸
I’m a firm believer in pickguards - unless it’s a classical nylon - but gotta admit that 003 Grote looks pretty nice without it. I’d leave it off unless your playing style starts to disrupt the finish.
I agree with you….😎 I have not replaced it since I shot this video….it has remained off. I have a pretty light touch, so don’t anticipate and issues. Thanks for watching and commenting….much appreciated! 👍
When this guitar was 1st released it came with the embossed truss rod cover. Then they changed it to basic black plastic. I got mine sent directly from Grote. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍🎸
Mr. Jimmy recommendation for the thin line hollow body strings flat wound or round wound and gauges. I just ordered the model with the natural finish it arrives tomorrow.
Thanks for watching and commenting Stephan…string gauge and type really is a personal preference based on what you like and your style of play. If you want a fuller, more jazz sound then perhaps some flat wounds would work better for you. I use D’Addario 9’s on most of my guitars. They tend to give me the right balance of tone and comfort for my playing style. They sound/feel/play great on solid or hollow body guitars…of course your mileage may vary! Appreciate your stopping in and congrats on your new guitar! 👍🎸
thanks for a great vid. where did you order that truss-rod cover. thx btw I like the look of the art-deco style scratch plate. most others I could see leaving off.
John OBeirne Thanks for watching and commenting! I emailed a company rep from Grote and asked them about the “older” embossed truss cover. They were kind enough to send me one. I agree that the guitar looks good with or without the guard. I left it off for the time being, but may put it back on later!
I don’t have a hard case for mine, as it doesn’t leave the studio. It actually fits a couple of soft case (gig bags) I have lying around so…. You could try Silver Crest, Crossrock, SKB…just measure upper/lower bouts to be sure. You could look at used cases as well…again measure to be sure! Hope that helps a little….I don’t know off the top of my head a hard case that I am SURE would fit…
You digging that nut out of there reminded me of my first guitar. My brother used to put my pick inside just so I would have to turn it upside down and shake it to get it out. He thought it was great fun.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! The bridge is actually a “floating” bridge that is taped down. Yes, that is a Monoprice 15w. I have a few videos here on the channel, including a full review and a simple mod video. Have a look when you get the chance! 👍
Update Jimmy! I just finished installing my Fralin .100” shim and I can’t put the guitar down! OMG what a difference! I would love to hear it with a quality P90 in it! Only problem is a maybe better P90 cost more than I paid for the whole Grote’! Any ideas on better Tuners and tune-o-matic? Thanks again for your time and expertise!🙏🏻
That’s great! The P90 that’s in it isn’t terrible...surely helps getting it up closer though, right? I have not looked into tuners or bridge, but will let you know if I find that they need replacing. Right now all is good. Appreciate the follow up and glad I was able to help a bit! 👍
I had a buzz on mine. It was the pick guard just touching the sound board when the guitar vibrated. Took the thing off problem solved aesthetically and acoustically.
Great clip. This looks like a great guitar. I had two questions: One, how wide is the nut width? (I really favor wider nuts/necks). And second, how much does the guitar weigh? I'm coming at this from a Hofner Club Bass (weight just over 5lbs) so I'm spoiled.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting David…I am on the road so not in the studio to double check, but as I recall the nut was 42mm and the fretboard was a standard Asian width at 350mm. Weight as I recall was around 8 lbs
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks for this information. I really like this model of Grote Guitar--the single p90 pickup, the trapeze tail. Your playing and explanation of your history of how this paricular model came to you was great. Thank you..
niteride Thanks for watching and commenting! At this point, no change is planned. After raising the pup, I like the sound. It is more level now in the mids, with a bit more brightness to it. I don’t think a $20 P90 would give you much, but I suppose you could try. What sound are you going for?
I have never used them, but heard good things about the Seymour Duncan P-Rails and the Phat Cats... Just my understanding is that the coil wiring is not like a “true” P90 standard single coil. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
awesome Jimmy! I've been digging this guitar, looks classy enough. And that P-90 is what's really got my interest, cuz I have zillion guitars, but not one of them has this pup on it?...lol -Btw-- The IYV IJZ-300 TSB Jazz Solid-Body Guitar, Tobacco Sunburst -IYB - is supposed to arrive today. Got my fingers crossed. I'm hoping it gets here in one piece! ..hah -stay cool brother!
Thanks for stopping in Adam…no P90 guitars?? Say, what?? You are certainly going to have to remedy that situation soon!! Congrats on your new Jazz box from IYV…I love mine and hope you enjoy it! Thanks again for watching and sharing with us! 👍🎸
Nice guitar l have a Grote as well i'm not too sure what mine is mine has thicker body but I have been told that it's a model that looks like a Gibson Now about the pickguard I think it looks good with it on it gives it a bit more character a little bit more to look at 🇦🇺👍🇦🇺
That’s great David!! Enjoy that guitar! Pick guard on/off certainly is a personal taste type thing, but yeah it does help change up the look. Thanks so much for watching and commenting and I appreciate your stopping into the channel! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Hi there again l watched one more of your videos it's the one with the guitar IYV well my Grote looks like that Jimmy would you know where to buy a IYV guitar there is a model that l would live to have I will place a link so you can see Thanks David ☺️ ruclips.net/video/TcEEfLvTX3E/видео.html
@@123elvislives Didn’t know you were “down under”. They do have a web site where you can special order, but I am sure shipping would get costly. Try IYV guitars or Inyen Vina Guitars.
Jimmy goes to pick out bolt (nut?) w/ finger & screwdriver me: that's not going to work 5 seconds later, it's out. me: oh! me (looking at pick up shim) : there's no way to get it under the pick up, the wire's in the way. Jimmy puts it on from the top. me: oh! I feel like the kid in the Far Side cartoon pushing on the door to the School for the Gifted marked "Pull" at least I didn't ask why you didn't do it on the bench. ;-) now that we've established that I am fairly dim, here's a question. why are the strings not over the magnet poles? they appear to be "in between" @17:26. is that correct/normal? and, finally - what is the other electric on the floor stand throughout the video?
ekw555 Tell me, are you subscribed to the channel yet? If not, you should be....we have a very similar sense of humor! If you are already subscribed, then forgive me. I am getting older by the day, and tend to forget stuff. Now, what were you asking?? 😎 Oh, yeah...the string/pole relationship. It’s strictly a trick of the camera angle. The strings and poles reside nicely over each other, just like peanut butter and Jelly! The other guitar in the shot....it’s the IYV BM-200 Brian May “Red Special” copy. Great guitar! I have a couple reviews/demos on it. Same company that makes the Thomman “Harley Benton” version of it, except mo’ better! Have a look! 👀
@@JimmyStewart1 I *am* a subscriber, but fairly recent, so I have not watched all of the videos yet. looks like I have more catching up to do. Some days I can't figure out - am I the stupidest smart guy or the smartest idiot ? I seem to vary between flashes of brilliance and boneheadedness. I'm ok with puzzles, so I think I would have figured out the pick up spacer if I was holding it. But just looking at it on screen, I was stumped.
ekw555 Ha...ha...I get it man! Feel the exact same way sometimes! The only thing about shimming up a P90 without removing it, is you don’t know if the factory gave you enough wire to “go over” the pup until you open it up. This technique works “most of the time”! 😎 Thanks so much for watching and commenting and subscribing! It’s people like yourself that compel me to continue to do this. Quite time consuming, but fun and hopefully fun and sometimes even educational for viewers! Much appreciated....stay safe out there! 👍
@@leodanryan966 Yeah, the Godin is a very similar style. There are a few in this Jazz box style. I thought it more styled after the Epi Century 66 as well. Both these guitars are over $700, so nothing really close to the price you pay for the Grote. A very good buy and vibe on the Grote for a very reasonable price. I did some small mods on mine, and after shimming the P90 up, it’s very nice!
To anyone who wants to do this kind of mod...take your fucking strings off first! Jesus Christ dude! And don't do it on your lap...lay it down on a table with a cloth underneath. Don't make it harder on yourself.
Ok....so I explained the reasons why I did this the way I did. Wasn’t trying to make it harder on myself or anybody else. Very minor “quick mods” easily done without much fuss. I just restrung the guitar in a prior video, and decided then that the pup needed raising, and Grote was kind enough to send me the new (old) truss rod cover. Nothing I needed my bench for here....sorry to upset you, but the idea was to show that you didn’t really need to remove strings, or the pup, nor preparing a bench for minor “mod” work. I address this at the beginning of the video....
Hey, thanks for watching and commenting Major Twang!! I agree, and have left it off since removing it!! Thanks so much for stopping in to the channel and your input!! Truly appreciate it! 👍🎸
Just realized that in the video, I actually spelled “Grote” as “Grout” (which is the way I pronounce it anyway). I think it’s a “Boston Thing” 😎
I think I will just call it “Bob” from now on....
pronounce: grow-tay as per mfg.... don't see that catching on.
John OBeirne
You mean “Bob”?? 🤣👍
Like "Pack your car in the garage"?
@@PeterDad60
Exactly!! 🤣
Thanks for stopping in…👍🎸
Addendum to my previous comment - I did add the pickup spacer and upgraded the tuners. But the best upgrade I found is to replace the soft wood (pine?) bridge support with a rosewood or ebony one. Volume and sustain are greatly improved! Also, the fretboard is very thirsty - I applied several coats of mineral oil and this improved the "feel" quite a bit. I absolutely love this guitar!
Nice!! Thanks so much for stopping in and sharing with us! 👍🎸
Just changed my bridge and support for an old rosewood one I had in my parts stash and man it's a HUGE improvement. Thanks for the tip. It's like I have a new guitat
I like the pick guard off. I like the new older style truss rod cover and I like the sound better with the pickup raised. Thanks for the review.
Hi Bill…thanks so much for watching and commenting. Truly appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts…much thanks and glad to hear you enjoyed it! 🎸👍
Tape the screws to the pick guard then throw the pick guard away.
The guitar is more attractive without it.
Bought the same guitar. What a deal.
Thanks for the video.
🤣🤣
You could certainly do that too….
Thanks for stopping in to the channel! Appreciate you watching and commenting! 👍🎸
I always take my pickguards off if possible. I think my guitars look better that way. I think the Grote looks better without the guard, its a cool looking guitar anyway. I've watched about a half dozen reviews on this guitar and as much as I really need another guitar, I'm getting the urge to buy one. Thanks for the video.
I agree…pick guard has remained off since this video….thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated! 👍
Hey Jimmy, Mr. 1000 here. Great job with mods, she sounds great! The "new" old truss rod cover is a winner. And the pickguard cover OFF! 🙂
Mr. 1000!!
Good to hear from you! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! On the new 335 model, they have gone back to the embossed truss cover, so I think I convinced them! 🤣
Appreciate your stopping in! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 I hope so, the embossed cover looks much classier!
@@Mr.56Goldtop
Totally agree...and the pick guard has remained off! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Yes, I saw that in your green 335 style unboxing, sitting all nice and sassy on the stand. She's a real beauty! I wouldn't mind owning one myself, but I'm not a big fan of trapeze tails, but still a cool piece. And I need ONE more guitar! 😁 Ahhh, dang it, Amazon doesn't have it anymore. 😢
@@Mr.56Goldtop
Don’t we all need “one more guitar”? 🤣
Just received my Amazon Cherry Red version. No noxious odors noted. No fret sprout whatsoever. No binding "bleed" anywhere. A few polishing/buffing flaws here and there. Overall an amazing value at $179. I will add the pickup spacer and will replace the strings with D'Addario Half-Rounds and the tuners with Gotoh keystone-style. No other modifications planned. I like how "loud" this guitar is when unplugged!
Jeff Ames
Nice! This has been my only venture into the Grote brand, but I really wanted this style guitar to add to the arsenal and Grote made it affordable with a very nice version for the $$. Agree with your assessment! Very nice guitar. See my review of this on the channel and thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with your mods...and enjoy! 👍
That truss rod cover just slides over to adjust it. That thing was tightned down so hard I thought the screwdriver was gonna go through the headstock LOL..... Good video sailor
The new (old) cover does, yes. The old (new) one didn’t. 😎
I wanted it tight enough we’re it didn’t dangle every time I lifted or tilted the neck and exposing the two extra holes from the 1st one….it still slides over if I push it, but not on its own. Thanks so much for watching and commenting…. Appreciate your stopping in! 👍🎸
Mr. Stewart,
Grote Hollywood upgrades...Great!
I so appreciate your videos. Funny too...
❤Thank You. re
So glad you are enjoying R.E.
Thanks so much for stopping in…👍🎸
Another wonderful review. Love the pickin...very tight...but so...cool...
Sorry, not trying to appear patronizing, but wow...
Mods were great...learned a nice trick. Thank You.
Wonderful sound...
Thank you so much RE…really do appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts! 👍🎸
Very helpful. thanks.
Hi Kevin…thanks so much and glad to hear it was helpful to you! Truly appreciate your stopping into the channel! 🎸👍
It’s like watching myself 30 years from now 😆
Ha! I am going to assume that’s a good thing! 😎
Appreciate your stopping into the channel…🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 tinkering with guitars and gear.. how could it be bad! lol 😎
@@burrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
Yep! You got that right for sure! Here’s to another 30 years to you…🙏👍
Keep pickin’…
Great video Jimmy thanks for your time and expertise! I think I’ll do the same upgrades as well! Looks good without the pick guard! Mine came with the same truss cover as your replacement! Beautiful guitar and I love to play it!🙏🏻
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! When did you get your jazz box? Perhaps they went back to including the embossed truss cover now (I did write them about it). Raising the P90 made a huge difference for my style, which allows the mids to come through cleaner, and I do like the look without the pick guard!
Thanks again, and hope to see you around the channel! 👍
I got mine about three weeks ago and love it! Thinking about the P90 lift. Thanks
@@1cleandude
That’s great! They must have listened to me on the truss cover...😎 When they made the change to the binding the F holes, they dropped the truss cover so good to hear they brought it back! Enjoy the guitar and thanks for letting me know. Appreciate it, and don’t be a stranger to the channel ok? Stay safe! 👍
Did raising the P90 increase the 60 cycle hum?🙏🏻
What is the string height above P90 unfretted?? Thanks again!🙏🏻
Would you go with.225 shim instead?🙏🏻
@@1cleandude
Thanks for watching and commenting! I didn’t notice any additional 60 cycle after raising the pup. If anything, I believe it to be cleaner. P90 poles to bottom of strings are about 2.5 mm on the bass end and 2.25 on the treble end. I think the shim I used here was good for what I was needed. It still allows for individual pole adjusting and I can still bring the action down a tad if needed.
Great playing, keep the pick guard, and or get another one!
Now that’s a idea!! 🤣
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Josh…appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍🎸
intrigued,,,,,,quote.....yes, I did remove the shim, however it’s all personal preference really. By specs, the P90 is to low on this guitar. After playing it with the shim, and more recently without, I am now preferring the sound without it. I think most (myself included for awhile) would prefer it shimmed. The preferences could change again...i wonder if theres a big difference...
Hi David…thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, by specs the P90 is low. I have played it both ways and have preferred it without recently. Who knows what tomorrow might bring…😎
Very tasty tones, Jimmy!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍
Mr. Stewart, On your recommendation I purchased the GB-300 in natural finish and its a really great guitar a welcome change from the strat, tele hegemony that floods the market. I purchased a new nut a Tusq and some flat wound strings. I'm a little shy about stripping her down to her knickers to make the changes but will persevere. (No guitar techs for a 140 mile radius and even then its kind of shakey since the plague). The only time I went to the tech desk at GC they quoted the woman who took it in for me 600$ for a string change and the associated setup work.
My primary point is to thank you for your honest and accurate reviews. I'm looking for a tele style guitar now, one with a hollow/semi hollow body and coil splitting could you make a suggestion please. Keep up the good work your a valuable asset to the online guitar universe.
I forgot to add I also got the pick up spacers to raise the pup closer to the strings. On the recommendation of Matt another YT contributor I lowered the bridge on my SX tele to get some twang in the sound. Before that it was lacking a tWanger. Sometimes adjustments to guitars seem counter intuitive.
My bucket list is to modify the GB-003 with a cutaway and a Guitar Fetish floating tremolo, a Bigsby type Trem that attaches only to the bottom strap button so no screws in the soundboard or body of the instrument. That will take care of the wiggle stick now A cutaway would sure be sweet. If a luthier appears somewhere in my territory I might pick up another 003 and have the cutaway mod done to it.
Hi Stephen…congrats on your new Grote Jazz box! Doing the setup work yourself is not only going to save you the $$, but allows you to know the instrument a lot better and get it setup to YOUR specifications. Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and the kind comments here! Much appreciated! If you are looking for a good budget Thinline Tele style, IYV has the ITF-300 NA with dual humbuckers and they have the ITF-400 TRD with dual P90’s as well. Neither has coil splitting, but I know some who have modded the 300 NA to coil splitting. The 400 has P90’s so no need (they are single coils). Both are very nice guitars and well worth the current cost on Amazon.
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P90’s like to be closer to the strings…wide, flat magnets (no poles). Just the nature of the beast…😎
You can of course mod your guitar to whatever you want, but I would not add anything to the Jazz box outside of raising the dogear pup. You could simply grab a cut-away style like the IYV styles have and have both!! 😎👍
In your more recent review you mentioned that you ended up taking the shim out and so leaving the P-90 at the stock position. Perhap somehow you could update your review or note it somehow. That could save some people from the cost of buying a shim. I do agree with your decision to remove the pickguard and the truss rod cover looks better too.
Thanks for stopping in Louis…yes, I did remove the shim, however it’s all personal preference really. By specs, the P90 is to low on this guitar. After playing it with the shim, and more recently without, I am now preferring the sound without it. I think most (myself included for awhile) would prefer it shimmed. The preferences could change again…😎
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 👍🎸
Everyone should do this once without removing the strings. After that, they will learn not to drive themselves crazy trying to do it without removing the strings.
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Thanks so much for stopping in Jeff…🎸👍
Leave it on. It makes it more vintage.
Thanks for watching and commenting Rocky! Appreciate your stopping in and input! 👍🎸
Jimmy, I was yelling at you not to take the top screw off the pick guard. I told you the nut would fall through the f hole!
Unfortunately you couldn’t hear me through RUclips and a year back in time.
Ha!Ha! 🤣
You should have yelled louder Big Poppa! 😎
Fortunately, I am the king of F-hole screw removal….appreciate your stopping in to the channel…thanks so much for watching and a good smile! 👍🎸
Looking at 16:36 to the video, it appears the strings are heavily biased to the treble side of the fretboard (high e appears on the binding), and not located over the P90 nubs. Assuming you've not adjusted it by, that's like caused by the floating bridge having shifted to the treble side of the guitar. Should be slid back so everything lines up again. Great vid that showed me how to do the shim, and where to get it, which is nice. Hate it when someone tells me to get something and then neglects to mention where, what part no., etc.
Hey Upload..thanks for watching and commenting. I have since the recording of this, changed strings and realigned the bridge so everything is good! Yes, the floating bridge will shift on you especially doing this without removing the strings. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and glad you enjoyed the video!
Much appreciated! 🎸👍
Well i am glad i watched your video! I am getting ready to raise my pickups too, and now i will just remove the pickguard screw from the brace so i won't drop it into the f hole. So thanks for that. Now let me finish the video.
Ha...ha!! Glad to have had helped! 🤣
Hope you enjoy the rest, and thanks for watching and commenting! Appreciate it! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Yes sir, i would have dropped my nut into the guitar if not for seeing your video. I actually did put the pick-guard back and it was no problem. Guitar does have a noticeable better tone now. So thanks again for the video.
@@dlmullins9054
Great news, and glad I was able to help! Appreciate your kind comments and hope to see you around the channel! Don’t be a stranger, ok? Stay safe! 👍
Jimmy lad, your subscription numbers are growing fast.
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I don’t know about that, but thanks! 👍
Back in the day, I went to IRS tax school. I suppose I could simply read the news, and comment on what Congress may or may not do with a Stimulus Bill every day and have over two million by now!! 🤣🤣
Sounds great, man.
Hey, thanks for watching and the kind comments. Appreciate you taking the time, and hope to see you around the channel!
Stay safe, and thanks again! 👍
Outstanding vid .I've been running into this guitar on and off for about 3 years.I had watched many many vids on this thing too.I started on bass influenced by Sir Paul & Tim Bogert of Vanilla Fudge(1967).Then learned,some chords on a 6string and goodbye bass.If I had regrets it would be that.I would have taken lessons ,theory etc.After several steel st. acoustics I settled in with nylon st guitars.So that's that Now I wanna get a little something diff.and Groat is the way I'm headed.Jimmy what's with the cap?That Coronado really served in many important capacities.I'd better stop.OMG..........Dave
Hi Dave! Thanks for stopping in to the channel! I remember T.B well…especially when he teamed up with Jeff Beck and Carmin Appice 😎 after the Fudge!
I have played bass on and off for years as well…comes in very handy during recording sessions…I think you would enjoy the Grote….nice Jazz box that won’t break the bank and sounds/looks/feels very nice, especially at this price point. I was on board the USS Coronado from 1987 to 1990 while stationed in Pearl Harbor Hawaii, though I spent the vast majority of that time in the Persian Gulf….Desert Shield/Desert Storm….we were 3rd Fleet Flag during that time. It was also were I made Chief in 1989…
Thanks again for watching and commenting. Much appreciated….👍🎸
I’m a firm believer in pickguards - unless it’s a classical nylon - but gotta admit that 003 Grote looks pretty nice without it. I’d leave it off unless your playing style starts to disrupt the finish.
I agree with you….😎
I have not replaced it since I shot this video….it has remained off. I have a pretty light touch, so don’t anticipate and issues.
Thanks for watching and commenting….much appreciated! 👍
Would tell us where you got the Grote truss rod cover. I like the look and convenience.
When this guitar was 1st released it came with the embossed truss rod cover. Then they changed it to basic black plastic. I got mine sent directly from Grote.
Appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍🎸
Mr. Jimmy recommendation for the thin line hollow body strings flat wound or round wound and gauges. I just ordered the model with the natural finish it arrives tomorrow.
Thanks for watching and commenting Stephan…string gauge and type really is a personal preference based on what you like and your style of play. If you want a fuller, more jazz sound then perhaps some flat wounds would work better for you. I use D’Addario 9’s on most of my guitars. They tend to give me the right balance of tone and comfort for my playing style. They sound/feel/play great on solid or hollow body guitars…of course your mileage may vary! Appreciate your stopping in and congrats on your new guitar! 👍🎸
thanks for a great vid. where did you order that truss-rod cover. thx
btw I like the look of the art-deco style scratch plate. most others I could see leaving off.
John OBeirne
Thanks for watching and commenting! I emailed a company rep from Grote and asked them about the “older” embossed truss cover. They were kind enough to send me one. I agree that the guitar looks good with or without the guard. I left it off for the time being, but may put it back on later!
The manufacturer pronounces it 'Grow tay'.
I still think of them as spoken as written - Grote.
Thanks for watching and commenting James!
Appreciate it..Bob it is! 👍
Hey Jimmy do you know of a good hard case for this guitar? Thanks 🙏🏻
I don’t have a hard case for mine, as it doesn’t leave the studio. It actually fits a couple of soft case (gig bags) I have lying around so….
You could try Silver Crest, Crossrock, SKB…just measure upper/lower bouts to be sure. You could look at used cases as well…again measure to be sure!
Hope that helps a little….I don’t know off the top of my head a hard case that I am SURE would fit…
You digging that nut out of there reminded me of my first guitar. My brother used to put my pick inside just so I would have to turn it upside down and shake it to get it out. He thought it was great fun.
Pops Fereal
Ha....yep I am the “master of sound hole pick removal”. It’s definitely a acquired skill and lots of fun! 😎👍
thanks for the video! I guess the bridge is not a floating bridge. Also, is that a monoprice 15w tube amp in the back?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! The bridge is actually a “floating” bridge that is taped down. Yes, that is a Monoprice 15w. I have a few videos here on the channel, including a full review and a simple mod video. Have a look when you get the chance! 👍
Update Jimmy! I just finished installing my Fralin .100” shim and I can’t put the guitar down! OMG what a difference! I would love to hear it with a quality P90 in it! Only problem is a maybe better P90 cost more than I paid for the whole Grote’!
Any ideas on better Tuners and tune-o-matic? Thanks again for your time and expertise!🙏🏻
That’s great! The P90 that’s in it isn’t terrible...surely helps getting it up closer though, right? I have not looked into tuners or bridge, but will let you know if I find that they need replacing. Right now all is good. Appreciate the follow up and glad I was able to help a bit! 👍
Heard a little buzzing not sure if the guitar. Not pickup p90 noise but maybe. Good job pal.
Thanks for watching and commenting Ed.
A P90 is indeed a single coil so some noise. Also my wrist band hits a couple times here I noticed...😎
I had a buzz on mine. It was the pick guard just touching the sound board when the guitar vibrated. Took the thing off problem solved aesthetically and acoustically.
Great clip. This looks like a great guitar. I had two questions: One, how wide is the nut width? (I really favor wider nuts/necks). And second, how much does the guitar weigh? I'm coming at this from a Hofner Club Bass (weight just over 5lbs) so I'm spoiled.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting David…I am on the road so not in the studio to double check, but as I recall the nut was 42mm and the fretboard was a standard Asian width at 350mm. Weight as I recall was around 8 lbs
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks for this information. I really like this model of Grote Guitar--the single p90 pickup, the trapeze tail. Your playing and explanation of your history of how this paricular model came to you was great. Thank you..
@@davidmadole3198
Thanks so much David…so glad you enjoyed it! Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍🎸
Jimmy are you thinking of changing the pickup? I did the pickup spacer you suggested , I am looking at a 20$ P90 on Amazon, What do you think?
niteride
Thanks for watching and commenting! At this point, no change is planned. After raising the pup, I like the sound. It is more level now in the mids, with a bit more brightness to it. I don’t think a $20 P90 would give you much, but I suppose you could try. What sound are you going for?
What do you think of Seymour Duncan SHPR-1b P-Rails - That claims to keep the p90 as an option but adding the humbucker sound as a option
I have never used them, but heard good things about the Seymour Duncan P-Rails and the Phat Cats...
Just my understanding is that the coil wiring is not like a “true” P90 standard single coil.
Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
awesome Jimmy! I've been digging this guitar, looks classy enough. And that P-90 is what's really got my interest, cuz I have zillion guitars, but not one of them has this pup on it?...lol -Btw-- The IYV IJZ-300 TSB Jazz Solid-Body Guitar, Tobacco Sunburst -IYB - is supposed to arrive today. Got my fingers crossed. I'm hoping it gets here in one piece! ..hah -stay cool brother!
Thanks for stopping in Adam…no P90 guitars?? Say, what?? You are certainly going to have to remedy that situation soon!! Congrats on your new Jazz box from IYV…I love mine and hope you enjoy it! Thanks again for watching and sharing with us! 👍🎸
Nice guitar l have a Grote as well i'm not too sure what mine is mine has thicker body but I have been told that it's a model that looks like a Gibson
Now about the pickguard I think it looks good with it on it gives it a bit more character a little bit more to look at
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That’s great David!! Enjoy that guitar! Pick guard on/off certainly is a personal taste type thing, but yeah it does help change up the look.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting and I appreciate your stopping into the channel! 👍
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Hi there again l watched one more of your videos it's the one with the guitar IYV well my Grote looks like that
Jimmy would you know where to buy a IYV guitar there is a model that l would live to have
I will place a link so you can see
Thanks David ☺️
ruclips.net/video/TcEEfLvTX3E/видео.html
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The IYV Jazz 300 and the 500 are sold on Amazon when available. 👍
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Thanks 👍
Yeah l am pretty sure they're don't ship to australia
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Didn’t know you were “down under”. They do have a web site where you can special order, but I am sure shipping would get costly. Try IYV guitars or Inyen Vina Guitars.
So how is Billy Bob GroTay
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Doing just fine…thanks for asking! 👍
Jimmy goes to pick out bolt (nut?) w/ finger & screwdriver
me: that's not going to work
5 seconds later, it's out.
me: oh!
me (looking at pick up shim) : there's no way to get it under the pick up, the wire's in the way.
Jimmy puts it on from the top.
me: oh!
I feel like the kid in the Far Side cartoon pushing on the door to the School for the Gifted marked "Pull"
at least I didn't ask why you didn't do it on the bench. ;-)
now that we've established that I am fairly dim, here's a question.
why are the strings not over the magnet poles?
they appear to be "in between" @17:26.
is that correct/normal?
and, finally - what is the other electric on the floor stand throughout the video?
ekw555
Tell me, are you subscribed to the channel yet? If not, you should be....we have a very similar sense of humor! If you are already subscribed, then forgive me. I am getting older by the day, and tend to forget stuff. Now, what were you asking?? 😎
Oh, yeah...the string/pole relationship. It’s strictly a trick of the camera angle. The strings and poles reside nicely over each other, just like peanut butter and Jelly!
The other guitar in the shot....it’s the IYV BM-200 Brian May “Red Special” copy. Great guitar! I have a couple reviews/demos on it. Same company that makes the Thomman “Harley Benton” version of it, except mo’ better! Have a look! 👀
PS....I do a simple setup of the Brian May Guitar in my lap in one of my videos...I was asked why I didn’t do that on a bench....😎
@@JimmyStewart1 I *am* a subscriber, but fairly recent, so I have not watched all of the videos yet.
looks like I have more catching up to do.
Some days I can't figure out - am I the stupidest smart guy or the smartest idiot ?
I seem to vary between flashes of brilliance and boneheadedness.
I'm ok with puzzles, so I think I would have figured out the pick up spacer if I was holding it.
But just looking at it on screen, I was stumped.
ekw555
Ha...ha...I get it man! Feel the exact same way sometimes! The only thing about shimming up a P90 without removing it, is you don’t know if the factory gave you enough wire to “go over” the pup until you open it up. This technique works “most of the time”! 😎
Thanks so much for watching and commenting and subscribing! It’s people like yourself that compel me to continue to do this. Quite time consuming, but fun and hopefully fun and sometimes even educational for viewers! Much appreciated....stay safe out there! 👍
Much prettier without the pickguard.
Camilo
I think I agree with you Camilo....leaving it off (for now)!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Stay safe! 👍
I like it with the guard, but i also like it without! I guess whatever floats your boat, right? lol
I saw the guitar your Grote is modeled after on Amazon.
Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin P90 Jazz-Style Acoustic Electric Guitar Bundle , Cognac Burst



I don't know what the little square things are from, I just copied and pasted the name from Amazon.
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Yeah, the Godin is a very similar style. There are a few in this Jazz box style. I thought it more styled after the Epi Century 66 as well. Both these guitars are over $700, so nothing really close to the price you pay for the Grote. A very good buy and vibe on the Grote for a very reasonable price. I did some small mods on mine, and after shimming the P90 up, it’s very nice!
To anyone who wants to do this kind of mod...take your fucking strings off first! Jesus Christ dude! And don't do it on your lap...lay it down on a table with a cloth underneath. Don't make it harder on yourself.
Ok....so I explained the reasons why I did this the way I did. Wasn’t trying to make it harder on myself or anybody else. Very minor “quick mods” easily done without much fuss. I just restrung the guitar in a prior video, and decided then that the pup needed raising, and Grote was kind enough to send me the new (old) truss rod cover. Nothing I needed my bench for here....sorry to upset you, but the idea was to show that you didn’t really need to remove strings, or the pup, nor preparing a bench for minor “mod” work.
I address this at the beginning of the video....
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Hey, thanks for watching and commenting Major Twang!! I agree, and have left it off since removing it!! Thanks so much for stopping in to the channel and your input!!
Truly appreciate it! 👍🎸