As a support main: learn where health packs are. Pivotal information. I am one person trying to keep four other people alive. Sometimes - SOMETIMES - I can't get you right away. You're off in a corner - safe - and I'm trying my damndest to keep the tank from buckling under the pressure, or cover the movements of a critically endangered squishy. Target priority is a thing for supps, too, and there are enough health packs on most maps that we are very often a short jaunt away from one. Grab a health pack. Seriously. Or at least don't spam me for healing. I see you. I promise. You're just not important right this second, and becoming less important every time I see that chat line. It's especially aggravating when we're a 3 second walk from one, and they just... don't wanna do it. Or I hope they simply don't know.
4:07 god I wish I had a button to say "go grab a mega" for situations exactly like this one. Only one support healing the tank who's still in the fight while the dps safely disengaged and is hiding around the corner spamming for healing. They're not in immediate danger so im absolutely prioritizing other people
Here’s the problem with what you just said the nearest mega is in the room around the corner where the enemies are he had 40 HP he could easily get one shot by most abilities It was either risk running to spawn in getting killed. go around the corner and die or sit there and wait for your healers which he did
This is the correct response. As a support playing, teammates shooting at me does actually get my attention, but I'm usually looking around for them in the first place. Flats has the right idea, and your call to get a mega is solid, but I think Flats was unreasonable in his response to wanting healing. Again, I play supports, and could make MANY clips of a DPSer LoSing me without any chance of rescuing him, and I'd 100% prefer this Sojourn than them, and I don't think Flats even considers things like that. Saying he has an ego for wanting heals is just kinda dumb.
@@ultru3525 Ok that kind of logic is what's going to get you killed. Waiting for heals there was perfectly reasonable, whether or not I agree with them making a tiktok to insult their healers.
@@3lit3gn0m3 So be it, even if Mercy can’t rez you in time, it’s right outside spawn, you’d only be out of action for like 12 seconds. Not to mention that if he was paying attention instead of shooting his teammate and looking sad, he could’ve caught the healing orb Moira threw his direction when she came out of spawn.
I agree for the most part. But settings for some heros are kinda a personal thing. Show me 20 top Lucio players and I'll show you 20 different keybinds lol. Some use right click for jump. Some use it for melee. Some use scroll up for boop. Most use scroll down for jump in addition to another button however it's primarily only used for one ticks and floor jumps. Dude has probably the most widely debated keybinds of any hero 🤣
I've been the DPS at 2hp, drop down to get the health pack, only for my Ana to not only snag it, but try to 1v5 the enemy team in a hallway instead of just heal me real quick. Then literally stare at me and keep walking. But i've also been the support who keeps hearing "I need heals" and having zero clue where it's coming at only to find it's some Genji so far out of my LOS he's practically in another map. It happens.
You're not wrong about dps should be targeted first because even outside of competitive dps mains seem to have the least amount of game sense. Had a Torb player complain about dying and in my mind I was thinking how are you dying so fast as Torb. Not that Torb is op but he has good survivability, his turret can be used in a variety of ways and his gun has no damage drop off. On paper Torb is harder to kill than most dps.
Appreciate the honest critique on my take! Admittedly it was constructed in a way that was maybe meant to spark a tiny bit of saltiness to get my impressions up, but still lol. And again I'm not a crazy player by any means, peak D1 by one tricking Soldier, so I don't mean to sound as if my opinion is 100% correct, just wanted to show that there's more nuance to the argument of soldier being easy to climb with, which is something a lot of ppl say in my comments lol
Your take is good, soldier is really difficult to climb with because he has like no burst. No one gets mad at a "lucky" soldier player because it doesn't exist. Tracking is harder than flicking imo and soldier dps is pretty bad, as well as the fact that finishing kills before someone gets healed or moves behind cover is hard. Sojourn has good consistent damage, but she has the added benefit of just instantly deleting someone from pretty much all ranges, something soldier can't do
@@aguyontheinternet8436 oh I would never actually advocate a character without a damage option. I'm just saying I like the design of zenyatta that much that if he didn't have a damage option he'd still be fun for me
When people mention soldier they never mention how he was the only hitscan in the game that got his damage nerfed in ow2 Back in ow1 he wasn’t as oppressive with 20 damage and a 50% sprint speed and all hitscans had an equal chance in a raw duel against him Now in overwatch 2 where every hitscan is untouched except him he has a disadvantage in any hitscan duel due to his lackluster damage especially against pocketed hitscans. And because they also nerfed his sprint speed to 40% combined with how faster the pace of the game is now his mobility also became lackluster. I understand that some might think his old damage would be broken but if that’s the case atleast buff his sprint speed or any other stat that would give him a purpose. For now he’s literally a worse Ashe and sojourn
I actually disagree with the idea of giving any buffs to soldier. He's consistently good in all ranks and has such a high potential for value despite being easy to pick up and play. Ashe arguably is harder because without good aim, allowing you to hit headshots, soldier wins in a duel every time. He has his biotic field, too, meaning that he realistically has an advantage in most duels. I say all this as a salty Tracer main, where it feels like I can swap to soldier at any time and do twice as good for way less effort. He seems very easy to do well on imo
11:05 the reason i think flats (i saw an owl coach talk about this when vod reviewing owl games) is because in that position sigmas projectiles can reach the very corner of that wall in front, but i dont think its viable against all comps
I’ve been playing Brigitte a decent amount and honestly she’s a lot of fun! As long as the team sticks mostly together the inspire definitely pulls its weight! My sister decided in quick play to nano boost me when I used Rally and that had to be the most fun I’ve had xD You just run through people and you basically become an unkillable tank for a few seconds, it’s great!
That soldier take reminds me so much of when one of my friends tried to tell me that he was actually one of the hardest characters in the game and so on
Hitscan in my opinion are the simplest dps heroes to play. But within hitscans soldier requires the most game sense as his kit revolves around finding the right position at the right time to get a kill since he deals relatively low damage with little burst options. meanwhile someone like Ashe can sit on high ground and dish out immense burst damage that either gets picks or forced cooldowns
Yeah what ibraxiv said! Soldier is definitely not mechanically demanding in the same way someone like Genji is, and he's not hard to pick up. But I think it is much harder to play an impactful Soldier as opposed to an impactful Ashe, due to his lack of burst damage options
@IbraXiV-_- ya that's what makes him difficult. He requires very high mechanical skill, and if you can reach master+ with soldier then your aim is really strong. His range isn't that good, tracking targets mid to long range with him is difficult as fuck, and he can get dunked on close range by a lot of characters. The only way to get value with him is just having insane aim if you want to climb
The Mercy in that second clip may have been internally screaming, hoping whoever they’re pocketing will just take some fucking cover so they can go heal the Sojourn.
I like how chat is a responsive ai that reacts to whatever flatz says Like they'll assumr he'll say something is bad or wrong, chat will make the early assumption and make fun of the tiktok, or not say anything And then they'll completely change their opinion and agree with whatever flat says
Ana would easily be S tier if not for kiriko. Both her sleep and anti are cleansed, and without those two, ana just can't do much. Anti has always been an extremely important part of her kit, and if say 25% of her anti's aren't actually in effect (taking into account nade's cd, suzu's cd, plus the kiriko being busy for other things), that means that ana's functionality drops, as a big anti nade can render certain teams useless, especially if you get the supports and healing characters like hog quickly. But kiriko can just get rid of that by pressing a button. This is obvious for higher ranked players, but some people just can't understand hard counters. This is the same reason junkerqueen has been bad. Her entire kit was based on something kiriko can get rid of.
I noticed this too, DPS are the priority targets now since the move to 5v5. U go for dps, unless if they’re pocketed by a support, go for the support until they die or run away and leave rhe dps vulnerable for u to then kill the dps.
I love people who honestly say that every team they get in every game is bad. Statistics proves them wrong 100% of the time. And as Flats said one time, you improve your chances of winning none the less by A LOT by just not tilting or flaming and just playing your best as that way, at the worst, you can have 4 bad players on your team. Noone can look me in the eye and tell me all their teammates suck every time.
I would like to say that brig is my go to for completing the numbers weeklys because she's a support that can do a good amount of damage, healing, and mitigation.
Personally I go with either lucio (cuz I love that man) mercy (cuz I’m trying to learn her so that I too can be a nigh unkillable sr71 blackbird zooming around at the speed of sound), and zen (if I want to go pew pew but the “all” queue has decided I must play support.)
4:31 I thought I was the only one who hate thsi especially the spamming in chat. Not to mention in the time you say there and spammed “I need healing” in the chat you could’ve just taken 10 seconds and just grabbed one of the MANY UNUSED medkits on the map
As a support main Brig is hands down my go to every single time the other team uses Hog. I've went entire matches ensuring Hog doesn't get a single hook. Every time that hook comes out I whip shot him. What's even funnier is when I pick Brig my team usually cries and asks I pick something else. Yet by the end when they realize Hog never hit a hook and I healed way more than anyone else on the board they shut up really quickly
@@wusaint that's an exception, not a rule. If you see the entire top all being sojourn, you can see she's good. But one brig only proves that she's bad.
@@patrickstar1164 things at the top reflect playing around the current metas. That's going to change and shift as tweaks are made. It doesn't make other characters useless. Yes it might mean that there's probably a better choice IF you play said better choice. Hell Brig was that meta not too long ago. She's still a completely valid hero. Arguably her weakest point is her ult. Compared to Kiriko, Lucio, or Ana her ult is meh. The rest of her kit is great though.
flats forgot about stage 2 of low elo it happens sometimes when the other team has a tracer thats killing you over and over and you cant deal with it so you make your entire team come help deal with it then you enter phase 3 .....shot the tank again and make no progress recapping the point you just loss chasing a tracer to parts of the map no1 knew existed
Yea always when im playing i more usually kill the dps first, due to the majority of dps not having any kind of sustainability and the supports being hard to kill (the tanks are also hard to kill but to try to kill the tank first its never an option)
in my opinion sigma is the soldier of tanks, he can do a little bit of everything but not a lot of one thing. He can be effective at nearly all ranges, he has a shield, he has a stun and a sustaining ability. That's why he's able to be picked on so many maps similarly to soldier. Orisa is a better sustain, rein is a better shield and hog is better damage and stun.
Nobody is talking about it, but that Solider:76 Video, he is legitimately hacking. Like, that's actual hacks, he will snap then turn into super smooth perfect tracking on center mass. Like watch it again hes actually hacking
I desperately want Brig to be buffed. The number of times where I have been killed by riptire or Sigma's primary despite having my shield up and facing them directly is unfair. I can't hardly secure kills unless I'm in ult because by the time the person I'm fighting is low, they get an itty bit of healing and finish me off. Brig is a melee character that sucks at melee, which makes absolutely 0 sense. Give her 5-10 more damage and 5 more healing on her inspire, and she would be pretty good. Alternatively, give her a weaker version of dooms "The Best Defense" so she can generate that overhealth for herself when she isn't in ult, with a reduced maximum. I'm not a high ranked player by any means, but it shouldn't take 6+ hits for a melee character to kill a mercy.
I agree that brig is highly slept on. She’s obviously not meta but since most people aren’t overwatch league or top five hundred, meta doesn’t matter. I’ve been stuck in gold recently and decided to try out brig just because I like her. And since adding her to my most played heroes, I’m now diamond five. Just gotta play her right. And for any pc players, I’m on Xbox and I play for fun, so that’s pretty good for me.
Brig is really good if you can play right. Got to hit those combos. I'm also on xbox but Brig is one of my mains since I started playing comp. I even managed to defeat a Winston in primal rage
I have an strange idea for a tier list Ranking characters based on theory not practicality. For example Hog is a mid tank, he has great self healing and his hook lets him one shot most heroes. However he only has his body to tank unlike Dva's defence matrik and Reinhardt's sheild. He also has no movement abilities so it's easy to flank around him to fight the dps and support. The idea of this tier list isn't numbers and how good they actually are, it's just listing the characters health and abilities and rating how good they are in theory. I think it'd be fun and an interesting discussion
Flats is right. Today's meta is kill dps - tank - support in that order. Altho I do love it when clueless players focus me. Because the kit on most supports (minus zen) has an escape or a CC of some kind.
Why do so many DPS have 2 modes; Spam "I need healing" when missing 10HP, or never hit "I need healing" and wonder why they're not getting healed? Just hit it once, at worst they'll ping "come here for healing" so you know where to go. Hit a Hello or Thanks on heal, and everyone's all good
Damn if Brig gets meta I'm gonna be so happy. Recently been relearning her from her OW1 self, and I can definitely see the nerfs. Hope she gets just a lil more juice on healing or damage or displacement anything tbh.
I talked with my Wife about why I think people (QP/Bronze) can't seem to grasp the concept. I personally think it's the stats that are shown vs OW1 stats/cards at the end of matches. There is no stat for Objective time to show the team. There is no score that people can look at that provides value to what needs to be done in a match. Imagine instead of total eliminations it shows how many tanks and DPS and Support you killed. Objective time, Support saves, ANYTHING that makes the entire match Teams see what everyone is doing. This would incentive people to learn what needs to be done to make those stats look good. but now? Heal/damage/assists and that's about it... it promotes doing nothing but kill kill kill and less of being a good TEAMMATE. the only other way to fix this is to talk to your team when things are going to shit. I have major anxiety for some reason when it comes to in-game chat/comms so I don't and if fucking blows.
Hardest tanks I know of are ball and doom as you have to master their movements and combos. For ball it's mainly combos but for doom just master movement and just spam button
6:52 Yup I do this for Kiriko, Moira, Mei, sojourn, and maybe another I'm forgetting. I think they do heal on left click by default so that people new to the character get it through their heads "this character heals. Use it." Too bad it didn't work for a lot of Moira players...
Soldier is harder for some people because it requires skills with tracking for sustain dmg over flick shots. I'm good at flick shots but not tracking smooth, so Sojurn(in comparison to S76) is more my play-style than soldier because of the right click, but in the end I provide more value with Cassady or Ash than S76. I need to practice more but meh, not like i'm a pro or streamer so 🤷♂
Not an experienced player by any stretch of the word. When I play Soldier: 76, I use him as any other damage hero is mostly used for; Securing kills and being the primary damage dealer (mostly to other damage heroes, squishes, and supports, and OCCASIONALLY, I REPEAT, OCCASIONALLY an out of position Tank.) but with 76, with your sprint giving you a pretty decent rollout, and somewhat of an escape tool (results may vary), along with the area of effect heal circle, makes you something of a mini support. (This is not encouraging other players to go Nurse: 76, but if a teammate needs heals, and the other supports can’t get there fast enough for some reason, just give him that little bit of heal juice) But my point being, this is mostly how I play 76, and maybe it’s not the best way to play him, but I’ll confront that if I ever go competitive (emphasis on IF) and this has been a unranked, somewhat new players opinion on overwatch on the internet, Thank you coming to my TED Talk.
Blizzard should’ve deleted the scoreboard until post game and kept the visible SR. The way people refer to the board like it actually shows what’s going on is ludicrous.
They should just bring back that post match screen before the update where they added the number 2 to the title. I kinda liked knowing how well I genuinely did as well as if I did better than last time.
Hey Flats, could you please create a new submission section in the discord for *funny* TikToks. The hot takes and bad guide reactions are funny but it's really entertaining when you react to a genuinly funny TikTok, like that Torb shtpost or that adorable child names hero ults. Plus it's fun seeing chat have a positive vibe and laughing their asses off instead of all the hate that bad TikToks get
Im high plat and low diamond. Jist started at the beginning of OW2 launch. I am 50/50 on mercy teammates. I love getting rezzed and i love getting a mercy pocket but damn the zero damage feels bad sometimes. Especially if you play against kiriko/baptiste or kiriko/zen. The picks from the other supports help alot in my opinion.
Please do the settings for every character. PLZ. It's so hard to find all the small little settings that could help like the echo flight thing. Half of them don't even make sense to me
KarQ has a fantastic recent video about every setting, I really recommend it. I've been playing since 2018 and I adjusted a couple things after watching that. And yeah he explains what things mean.
Console player here, any chance we could get a controller layout setup for certain characters? Like for example Lucio and phara I put jump/fly on left trigger.
Regarding 4:30 - I don't know the new (read: since Season 2) maps, but would there not be a health pack somewhere nearby the Sojourn could pick up? I thought her slide thing made her super mobile.
I kinda hate that mercy pick rate went up only cus it's gonna give a conformation bias to they're stupid max ammo change..." see that's all she needed"
Honestly I would be fine with the current balance of Sojourn right now if the other hitscan characters excluding Widow got some Falloff buffs. Reason being they can get more reliable damage on characters that have advantages at range like Widow and Sojourn. Cassidy/Soldier are at considerable disadvantages with damage at Widow/Sojourn at ranges. I'm not saying Cassidy needs to be able to hit 3 bodyshots from a mile away and kill a widow, I'm saying if you're going up against a Sojourn/Widow at a decent range your odds of killing them are much better than they are now. Hitscan characters bread and butter is their ability to hit shots reliably. They should be decently rewarded for it. On top of that I would think that Mercy Damage buff should be adjusted if hitscan falloff is buffed, but that's a different discussion.
I am low elo (gold console) and have to agree that killing DPS should be the priority most of the time in low elo as well. Just based on what I've observed.
Overwatch TikToks are one of two ways. 1. The take in the video is good and the comments are trash. 2. The take in the video is trash and the comments are good. I feel like everyone on that site is a contrarian.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but on the second video where the guy was explaining soldier everyone was just saying he’s stupid and an idiot but the second flat start saying something good about him they are switched up so fast his chat doesn’t even know what they’re talking about. They’re just going by what he says.
These reaction videos used to be great until recently when people are just making these tiktoks to purely get featured in a reaction video because so many people are doing them now
![State of Play | September 24, 2024 [ENGLISH]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fVs0suPHAX8/mqdefault.jpg)
No shot THAT'S the video that get's featured 😱 I was just having a rant about an option haha!
Lol it wasn’t bad, all your shorts are good man.
Love your shorts
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Motion! big fan bro, love your new vids!
@@teloscopic8748 same
I’d absolutely love to see your settings for heroes, I think that’s a great video idea and would be super helpful!
KarQ already made a guide for this if you're interested
ruclips.net/video/0gBculFJSJQ/видео.html
BUMP THIS UP
I need this
I need to see Flats Mercy gameplay. Only pro I know that plays her is skiesti
I'd love to see more settings for heroes, the primary/secondary fire change has helped so much with kiriko and sojourn
KarQ made a video on it recently
As a support main: learn where health packs are. Pivotal information.
I am one person trying to keep four other people alive. Sometimes - SOMETIMES - I can't get you right away. You're off in a corner - safe - and I'm trying my damndest to keep the tank from buckling under the pressure, or cover the movements of a critically endangered squishy. Target priority is a thing for supps, too, and there are enough health packs on most maps that we are very often a short jaunt away from one.
Grab a health pack. Seriously. Or at least don't spam me for healing. I see you. I promise. You're just not important right this second, and becoming less important every time I see that chat line.
It's especially aggravating when we're a 3 second walk from one, and they just... don't wanna do it. Or I hope they simply don't know.
4:07 god I wish I had a button to say "go grab a mega" for situations exactly like this one. Only one support healing the tank who's still in the fight while the dps safely disengaged and is hiding around the corner spamming for healing. They're not in immediate danger so im absolutely prioritizing other people
Here’s the problem with what you just said the nearest mega is in the room around the corner where the enemies are he had 40 HP he could easily get one shot by most abilities It was either risk running to spawn in getting killed. go around the corner and die or sit there and wait for your healers which he did
@@kayreinier182 unless there's a torb turret or junkrat spam, no one in his elo's gonna do 40 damage to a sliding sojourn without popping their ult
This is the correct response. As a support playing, teammates shooting at me does actually get my attention, but I'm usually looking around for them in the first place.
Flats has the right idea, and your call to get a mega is solid, but I think Flats was unreasonable in his response to wanting healing. Again, I play supports, and could make MANY clips of a DPSer LoSing me without any chance of rescuing him, and I'd 100% prefer this Sojourn than them, and I don't think Flats even considers things like that. Saying he has an ego for wanting heals is just kinda dumb.
@@ultru3525 Ok that kind of logic is what's going to get you killed. Waiting for heals there was perfectly reasonable, whether or not I agree with them making a tiktok to insult their healers.
@@3lit3gn0m3 So be it, even if Mercy can’t rez you in time, it’s right outside spawn, you’d only be out of action for like 12 seconds. Not to mention that if he was paying attention instead of shooting his teammate and looking sad, he could’ve caught the healing orb Moira threw his direction when she came out of spawn.
Health pack is literally inside the building next to him
A settings video for each character would be much appreciated.
Edit: 8:20 My favorite support is Bap the Baptist.
Just use the KarQ one
Get him some holy water
I agree for the most part. But settings for some heros are kinda a personal thing. Show me 20 top Lucio players and I'll show you 20 different keybinds lol. Some use right click for jump. Some use it for melee. Some use scroll up for boop. Most use scroll down for jump in addition to another button however it's primarily only used for one ticks and floor jumps. Dude has probably the most widely debated keybinds of any hero 🤣
I've been the DPS at 2hp, drop down to get the health pack, only for my Ana to not only snag it, but try to 1v5 the enemy team in a hallway instead of just heal me real quick. Then literally stare at me and keep walking. But i've also been the support who keeps hearing "I need heals" and having zero clue where it's coming at only to find it's some Genji so far out of my LOS he's practically in another map. It happens.
It's never generally true to say that it's dps fault or support fault. It's very contextual, so you are right.
The absolute disrespect lmao
You're not wrong about dps should be targeted first because even outside of competitive dps mains seem to have the least amount of game sense. Had a Torb player complain about dying and in my mind I was thinking how are you dying so fast as Torb. Not that Torb is op but he has good survivability, his turret can be used in a variety of ways and his gun has no damage drop off. On paper Torb is harder to kill than most dps.
Appreciate the honest critique on my take! Admittedly it was constructed in a way that was maybe meant to spark a tiny bit of saltiness to get my impressions up, but still lol. And again I'm not a crazy player by any means, peak D1 by one tricking Soldier, so I don't mean to sound as if my opinion is 100% correct, just wanted to show that there's more nuance to the argument of soldier being easy to climb with, which is something a lot of ppl say in my comments lol
Your take is good, soldier is really difficult to climb with because he has like no burst. No one gets mad at a "lucky" soldier player because it doesn't exist. Tracking is harder than flicking imo and soldier dps is pretty bad, as well as the fact that finishing kills before someone gets healed or moves behind cover is hard.
Sojourn has good consistent damage, but she has the added benefit of just instantly deleting someone from pretty much all ranges, something soldier can't do
@@RenonTTV sojourn has a hitscan shot for basically 200 damage every 3 seconds, meanwhile soldier has a projectile that does 120 damage MAX lmao
Zen's discord is actually an amazing ability. Even if you had no damage as zenyatta I'd still play him for the discord orb
Zen without damage sounds like hell. The damage is your only option against flankers.
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He would have an insane mobility if that were the case
@@A-G-F- okay but then you just end up with a second Mercy
@@ultru3525 anti mercy. Boost damage enemies take instead of boosting damage allies do
@@aguyontheinternet8436 oh I would never actually advocate a character without a damage option. I'm just saying I like the design of zenyatta that much that if he didn't have a damage option he'd still be fun for me
When people mention soldier they never mention how he was the only hitscan in the game that got his damage nerfed in ow2
Back in ow1 he wasn’t as oppressive with 20 damage and a 50% sprint speed and all hitscans had an equal chance in a raw duel against him
Now in overwatch 2 where every hitscan is untouched except him he has a disadvantage in any hitscan duel due to his lackluster damage especially against pocketed hitscans. And because they also nerfed his sprint speed to 40% combined with how faster the pace of the game is now his mobility also became lackluster.
I understand that some might think his old damage would be broken but if that’s the case atleast buff his sprint speed or any other stat that would give him a purpose. For now he’s literally a worse Ashe and sojourn
I actually disagree with the idea of giving any buffs to soldier. He's consistently good in all ranks and has such a high potential for value despite being easy to pick up and play. Ashe arguably is harder because without good aim, allowing you to hit headshots, soldier wins in a duel every time. He has his biotic field, too, meaning that he realistically has an advantage in most duels.
I say all this as a salty Tracer main, where it feels like I can swap to soldier at any time and do twice as good for way less effort. He seems very easy to do well on imo
11:05 the reason i think flats (i saw an owl coach talk about this when vod reviewing owl games) is because in that position sigmas projectiles can reach the very corner of that wall in front, but i dont think its viable against all comps
100% even Space from OWL recommends that spot. Highground is still really good for ladder though.
@@conc782 i usually get high ground but once i tried out that spot with sigma and it worked out pretty decent!
Flats: I refuse to coach people.
Also Flats: Here everything you're doing wrong. Lol
I’ve been playing Brigitte a decent amount and honestly she’s a lot of fun! As long as the team sticks mostly together the inspire definitely pulls its weight! My sister decided in quick play to nano boost me when I used Rally and that had to be the most fun I’ve had xD You just run through people and you basically become an unkillable tank for a few seconds, it’s great!
So you become OG brigitte for a few seconds
So you become OG brigitte for a few seconds
As an Ana main for support I always make sure I look around and make sure people are satisfied, and I'll even pre-aim on a dps that's pushing.
That soldier take reminds me so much of when one of my friends tried to tell me that he was actually one of the hardest characters in the game and so on
Hitscan in my opinion are the simplest dps heroes to play. But within hitscans soldier requires the most game sense as his kit revolves around finding the right position at the right time to get a kill since he deals relatively low damage with little burst options. meanwhile someone like Ashe can sit on high ground and dish out immense burst damage that either gets picks or forced cooldowns
Yeah what ibraxiv said! Soldier is definitely not mechanically demanding in the same way someone like Genji is, and he's not hard to pick up. But I think it is much harder to play an impactful Soldier as opposed to an impactful Ashe, due to his lack of burst damage options
@IbraXiV-_- ya that's what makes him difficult. He requires very high mechanical skill, and if you can reach master+ with soldier then your aim is really strong.
His range isn't that good, tracking targets mid to long range with him is difficult as fuck, and he can get dunked on close range by a lot of characters. The only way to get value with him is just having insane aim if you want to climb
@@RenonTTV so true! Which is why I'm trying to reach master with soldier only! Really hard!!!
@@NinjaAtlas ya same, I'm about to hit diamond rn, but after that it's going to be difficult...
The Mercy in that second clip may have been internally screaming, hoping whoever they’re pocketing will just take some fucking cover so they can go heal the Sojourn.
I didnt know that Kiriko had a toggle for her healing before now
Also her swift step sensitivity is only 50% by default, upping it to 100% makes it easier to target an ally and escape death.
I like how chat is a responsive ai that reacts to whatever flatz says
Like they'll assumr he'll say something is bad or wrong, chat will make the early assumption and make fun of the tiktok, or not say anything
And then they'll completely change their opinion and agree with whatever flat says
Flats is really milking this content and I am so here for it
Hahah, content.
Ana would easily be S tier if not for kiriko. Both her sleep and anti are cleansed, and without those two, ana just can't do much. Anti has always been an extremely important part of her kit, and if say 25% of her anti's aren't actually in effect (taking into account nade's cd, suzu's cd, plus the kiriko being busy for other things), that means that ana's functionality drops, as a big anti nade can render certain teams useless, especially if you get the supports and healing characters like hog quickly. But kiriko can just get rid of that by pressing a button. This is obvious for higher ranked players, but some people just can't understand hard counters. This is the same reason junkerqueen has been bad. Her entire kit was based on something kiriko can get rid of.
I noticed this too, DPS are the priority targets now since the move to 5v5. U go for dps, unless if they’re pocketed by a support, go for the support until they die or run away and leave rhe dps vulnerable for u to then kill the dps.
Definitely do a settings video ! That would be very useful for me, love ur videos keep up the good work
KarQ already made a guide for this if you're interested
ruclips.net/video/0gBculFJSJQ/видео.html
bloodhunt is a vampire battle royale third person shooter that was hyped up a bit but died within months
I love people who honestly say that every team they get in every game is bad. Statistics proves them wrong 100% of the time. And as Flats said one time, you improve your chances of winning none the less by A LOT by just not tilting or flaming and just playing your best as that way, at the worst, you can have 4 bad players on your team. Noone can look me in the eye and tell me all their teammates suck every time.
I would like to say that brig is my go to for completing the numbers weeklys because she's a support that can do a good amount of damage, healing, and mitigation.
Personally I go with either lucio (cuz I love that man) mercy (cuz I’m trying to learn her so that I too can be a nigh unkillable sr71 blackbird zooming around at the speed of sound), and zen (if I want to go pew pew but the “all” queue has decided I must play support.)
Agreed
Yeah, like 700 healing, 230 damage, and 170 mitigation for the entire match. Very useful
Zen is the skill version of brig
@@jazay591 what
Feral NPC comment was pure gold 🤣
4:31 I thought I was the only one who hate thsi especially the spamming in chat. Not to mention in the time you say there and spammed “I need healing” in the chat you could’ve just taken 10 seconds and just grabbed one of the MANY UNUSED medkits on the map
Reducing soldiers helix cooldown by 2 seconds would make him exceptionally good
As a support main Brig is hands down my go to every single time the other team uses Hog. I've went entire matches ensuring Hog doesn't get a single hook. Every time that hook comes out I whip shot him. What's even funnier is when I pick Brig my team usually cries and asks I pick something else. Yet by the end when they realize Hog never hit a hook and I healed way more than anyone else on the board they shut up really quickly
Yes!! And her shield bash is a good way to escape from him if he hooks you.
Until you realize your gold and probably arent doing jack
@@bobfaget100 you do realize the 19th ranked support mains Brig right? Just because you believe a hero is useless doesn't mean it's so.
@@wusaint that's an exception, not a rule. If you see the entire top all being sojourn, you can see she's good. But one brig only proves that she's bad.
@@patrickstar1164 things at the top reflect playing around the current metas. That's going to change and shift as tweaks are made. It doesn't make other characters useless. Yes it might mean that there's probably a better choice IF you play said better choice. Hell Brig was that meta not too long ago. She's still a completely valid hero. Arguably her weakest point is her ult. Compared to Kiriko, Lucio, or Ana her ult is meh. The rest of her kit is great though.
The soldier guy doesnt even need the ult, he as a goddamn aimbot already wtf is that.
yo I love motiongaming, He's such a mood and actually tries to learn the characters
Finally someone else agrees that Brig is a sleeper pick. Very good support hero even after the rally nerf
9:34 Please don't tell this to people. I've been steadily climbing with Brig and a counter swap to Zen/Ana if we're getting sh*t on by Hog.
no
2:20 the guy is talking like soldier doesn’t have rockets
flats forgot about stage 2 of low elo it happens sometimes when the other team has a tracer thats killing you over and over and you cant deal with it so you make your entire team come help deal with it then you enter phase 3 .....shot the tank again and make no progress recapping the point you just loss chasing a tracer to parts of the map no1 knew existed
predator missle? OH! you mean mccree's Blue Shell
Yea always when im playing i more usually kill the dps first, due to the majority of dps not having any kind of sustainability and the supports being hard to kill (the tanks are also hard to kill but to try to kill the tank first its never an option)
in my opinion sigma is the soldier of tanks, he can do a little bit of everything but not a lot of one thing. He can be effective at nearly all ranges, he has a shield, he has a stun and a sustaining ability. That's why he's able to be picked on so many maps similarly to soldier. Orisa is a better sustain, rein is a better shield and hog is better damage and stun.
Nobody is talking about it, but that Solider:76 Video, he is legitimately hacking. Like, that's actual hacks, he will snap then turn into super smooth perfect tracking on center mass. Like watch it again hes actually hacking
I desperately want Brig to be buffed. The number of times where I have been killed by riptire or Sigma's primary despite having my shield up and facing them directly is unfair. I can't hardly secure kills unless I'm in ult because by the time the person I'm fighting is low, they get an itty bit of healing and finish me off. Brig is a melee character that sucks at melee, which makes absolutely 0 sense. Give her 5-10 more damage and 5 more healing on her inspire, and she would be pretty good. Alternatively, give her a weaker version of dooms "The Best Defense" so she can generate that overhealth for herself when she isn't in ult, with a reduced maximum. I'm not a high ranked player by any means, but it shouldn't take 6+ hits for a melee character to kill a mercy.
I see my main on the highest tier, I click.
I agree that brig is highly slept on. She’s obviously not meta but since most people aren’t overwatch league or top five hundred, meta doesn’t matter. I’ve been stuck in gold recently and decided to try out brig just because I like her. And since adding her to my most played heroes, I’m now diamond five. Just gotta play her right. And for any pc players, I’m on Xbox and I play for fun, so that’s pretty good for me.
Brig is really good if you can play right. Got to hit those combos. I'm also on xbox but Brig is one of my mains since I started playing comp. I even managed to defeat a Winston in primal rage
omg yesss a settings video would be fireee
I know every support except Brigitte I never got the chance to really figure out how to play her.
Brig is unironically fun rn ngl
11:44
- sigs rock deals 100 demage
- that one i disagree with
You disagree with numbers?..
Oooh ok, nvm xD
I have an strange idea for a tier list
Ranking characters based on theory not practicality.
For example
Hog is a mid tank, he has great self healing and his hook lets him one shot most heroes.
However he only has his body to tank unlike Dva's defence matrik and Reinhardt's sheild.
He also has no movement abilities so it's easy to flank around him to fight the dps and support.
The idea of this tier list isn't numbers and how good they actually are, it's just listing the characters health and abilities and rating how good they are in theory. I think it'd be fun and an interesting discussion
Flats is right. Today's meta is kill dps - tank - support in that order. Altho I do love it when clueless players focus me. Because the kit on most supports (minus zen) has an escape or a CC of some kind.
4:25 OP is behind cover and not under threat of dying. I think that was the correct play for Mercy.
Why do so many DPS have 2 modes; Spam "I need healing" when missing 10HP, or never hit "I need healing" and wonder why they're not getting healed? Just hit it once, at worst they'll ping "come here for healing" so you know where to go. Hit a Hello or Thanks on heal, and everyone's all good
Damn if Brig gets meta I'm gonna be so happy. Recently been relearning her from her OW1 self, and I can definitely see the nerfs. Hope she gets just a lil more juice on healing or damage or displacement anything tbh.
I talked with my Wife about why I think people (QP/Bronze) can't seem to grasp the concept. I personally think it's the stats that are shown vs OW1 stats/cards at the end of matches. There is no stat for Objective time to show the team. There is no score that people can look at that provides value to what needs to be done in a match. Imagine instead of total eliminations it shows how many tanks and DPS and Support you killed. Objective time, Support saves, ANYTHING that makes the entire match Teams see what everyone is doing. This would incentive people to learn what needs to be done to make those stats look good. but now? Heal/damage/assists and that's about it... it promotes doing nothing but kill kill kill and less of being a good TEAMMATE.
the only other way to fix this is to talk to your team when things are going to shit. I have major anxiety for some reason when it comes to in-game chat/comms so I don't and if fucking blows.
Hardest tanks I know of are ball and doom as you have to master their movements and combos. For ball it's mainly combos but for doom just master movement and just spam button
Healers pocketing healers is so annoying, so that why i just play sojourn. Just one shot them lol
I’d really love a settings video even if it’s long
6:52 Yup I do this for Kiriko, Moira, Mei, sojourn, and maybe another I'm forgetting. I think they do heal on left click by default so that people new to the character get it through their heads "this character heals. Use it."
Too bad it didn't work for a lot of Moira players...
If overwatch was a person
Just FYI to anyone that blames healers, just remember we have health packs for a reason lol.
Soldier is harder for some people because it requires skills with tracking for sustain dmg over flick shots. I'm good at flick shots but not tracking smooth, so Sojurn(in comparison to S76) is more my play-style than soldier because of the right click, but in the end I provide more value with Cassady or Ash than S76. I need to practice more but meh, not like i'm a pro or streamer so 🤷♂
Not an experienced player by any stretch of the word. When I play Soldier: 76, I use him as any other damage hero is mostly used for; Securing kills and being the primary damage dealer (mostly to other damage heroes, squishes, and supports, and OCCASIONALLY, I REPEAT, OCCASIONALLY an out of position Tank.) but with 76, with your sprint giving you a pretty decent rollout, and somewhat of an escape tool (results may vary), along with the area of effect heal circle, makes you something of a mini support. (This is not encouraging other players to go Nurse: 76, but if a teammate needs heals, and the other supports can’t get there fast enough for some reason, just give him that little bit of heal juice) But my point being, this is mostly how I play 76, and maybe it’s not the best way to play him, but I’ll confront that if I ever go competitive (emphasis on IF) and this has been a unranked, somewhat new players opinion on overwatch on the internet, Thank you coming to my TED Talk.
the guy with the tierlist said "to master" so ball is 100% in S tier too
4:14 the 0:14 guy on locker in bf4
6:35 I would actually pay for a video about high level players settings
KarQ has a great one and it's free!
Blizzard should’ve deleted the scoreboard until post game and kept the visible SR. The way people refer to the board like it actually shows what’s going on is ludicrous.
They should just bring back that post match screen before the update where they added the number 2 to the title. I kinda liked knowing how well I genuinely did as well as if I did better than last time.
I hate cassidy because his magnetic grenade does so much damage and requires not a thought in the persons mind to use besides "E"
Hey Flats, could you please create a new submission section in the discord for *funny* TikToks. The hot takes and bad guide reactions are funny but it's really entertaining when you react to a genuinly funny TikTok, like that Torb shtpost or that adorable child names hero ults. Plus it's fun seeing chat have a positive vibe and laughing their asses off instead of all the hate that bad TikToks get
Please make a settings video. I've looked for setting videos for my Anna and literally every single on a video is different.
Im high plat and low diamond. Jist started at the beginning of OW2 launch. I am 50/50 on mercy teammates. I love getting rezzed and i love getting a mercy pocket but damn the zero damage feels bad sometimes. Especially if you play against kiriko/baptiste or kiriko/zen. The picks from the other supports help alot in my opinion.
Yes pls for the video about OW character settings
I want the setting vid so badly
I am interested in settings, I’ve been searching
That Mo_tiongaming guy is legitimately new to the game. His TikToks are wholesome.
Thanks dude! ❤
@@MotionGaming anytime. Glad to have ya in OW.
Please do the settings for every character. PLZ. It's so hard to find all the small little settings that could help like the echo flight thing. Half of them don't even make sense to me
KarQ has a fantastic recent video about every setting, I really recommend it. I've been playing since 2018 and I adjusted a couple things after watching that. And yeah he explains what things mean.
Everytime I hear "clip" instead of "magazine" I have a micro aneurysm.
Love your content keep it up brother!
Console player here, any chance we could get a controller layout setup for certain characters? Like for example Lucio and phara I put jump/fly on left trigger.
Regarding 4:30 - I don't know the new (read: since Season 2) maps, but would there not be a health pack somewhere nearby the Sojourn could pick up? I thought her slide thing made her super mobile.
Settings video for every hero would be huge.
That gameplay of Soldier... Dude is cheating. 100% aimbot.
Flats, it's not a tier list if you put every character in the same tier
I kinda hate that mercy pick rate went up only cus it's gonna give a conformation bias to they're stupid max ammo change..." see that's all she needed"
Ignore the tanks altogether & go straight for DPS
They should at least make the heal a channeling skill so the hog needs to stand still for the duration or it breaks.
i just learned about the backward wall ride from this vid, why is that even a setting?
Man, I am a fucking magnet for hanzo HS's... And the guy wasn't even aming me, he was just spamming 😑
Wait there’s a backwards wall ride???
Honestly I would be fine with the current balance of Sojourn right now if the other hitscan characters excluding Widow got some Falloff buffs. Reason being they can get more reliable damage on characters that have advantages at range like Widow and Sojourn. Cassidy/Soldier are at considerable disadvantages with damage at Widow/Sojourn at ranges. I'm not saying Cassidy needs to be able to hit 3 bodyshots from a mile away and kill a widow, I'm saying if you're going up against a Sojourn/Widow at a decent range your odds of killing them are much better than they are now. Hitscan characters bread and butter is their ability to hit shots reliably. They should be decently rewarded for it. On top of that I would think that Mercy Damage buff should be adjusted if hitscan falloff is buffed, but that's a different discussion.
winton
5:40 😤
6:44 lol karq literally just stole your idea
The Tok commenters always make themselves known in the chat.
I was in a ranked game and someone had their mic set to open and they were playing this LOUDLY in the background. Had to kindly tell him to mute. Haha
Yes please a settings video.
Do the settings video
I am low elo (gold console) and have to agree that killing DPS should be the priority most of the time in low elo as well. Just based on what I've observed.
Overwatch TikToks are one of two ways.
1. The take in the video is good and the comments are trash.
2. The take in the video is trash and the comments are good.
I feel like everyone on that site is a contrarian.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but on the second video where the guy was explaining soldier everyone was just saying he’s stupid and an idiot but the second flat start saying something good about him they are switched up so fast his chat doesn’t even know what they’re talking about. They’re just going by what he says.
These reaction videos used to be great until recently when people are just making these tiktoks to purely get featured in a reaction video because so many people are doing them now