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Low skill players giving terrible advice with the utmost confidence is my favourite new drug 😂
How bro? I struggle to watch these because I cringe so hard my spine folds into 3 shapes simultaneously.
@@Bro1212_
Oh for sure but it's too entertaining at the same time!
@@Bro1212_ because most of us deep in the internet are overdose on cringe and just start calling normal the only we cringe is when it goes a bit over the edge
6:17 when Rein says "we are fewer in number, but greater in spirits" and proceeds to yeet himself off was just perfect
Yeah we're fewer in number alright
@@dinterdos and definitely greater in spirit
As a new overwatch player you saved my overwatch experience so much
good for you
Lucky you
Watching streamers and creators that are legitimately signed into OWL one way shape or form (Flats is a creator for florida mayhem) is the best thing you can do. Good move
@@BTRshow or just high ladder players, but yeah a lot better to watch them for advice on the game than someone you would just watch for fun like shroud, he’s got good aim, but not really ideal if you want to learn to climb
Same here
My biggest epiphany moment with support was realizing that I don't have to heal teammates who make dumb decisions. If you get caught out hard, me keeping you alive for 2 more seconds is far less valuable that getting a kill while the enemy is distracted. If I got ultimate or something, yeah maybe I'll try to save you, but if I do that and nothing comes of it I won't be doing it again.
Also, trying to heal someone through say, a flanking reaper that isn't a bot is pointless. You should try to at least run him off if not kill him before you waste time trying to heal someone about to get 2 shot anyway.
True, especially in low ranks/unranked, people will run straight into the enemy team, die and then complain that you didnt heal them
True. All of those decisions are game changing sometimes. Especialy when I'm boosting one dps as Mercy and not the other because they bring minimum value. I got once yelled at because I wasn't boosting my Widowmaker' one game but I believe it was justified on my side, they couldn't hit their shots and enemy Pharah was just decimating them (they just kept standing in one place and it took Pharah to hit 4 times before they were killed, and they STILL didn't MOVE from that spot). It's important to find value in your teammates and then make decisions based on that. Sometimes I have really good Ana who is hitting shots left and right so of course I'm gonna boost her when I can. Sometimes I have great Rein so I'm gonna boost him of course. Sometimes I get a dps who has problem with positioning but they hit good shots so I'm gonna keep an eye on them with more heals than boosts.
that lucio shooting his team mate to heal was litterally me on ow1 2016 wonderful times 😂😂
Me with zenyatta dawg
There are surprisingly many people who do that when they start playing ow 😭😭
I was on Route 66 when I tried it.
No I don't want this memory, but I have it.
Jacksepticeye did this in his overwatch videos lol. It should be made more apparent that you can see a heros abilities by pressing f1, because no new players have a single clue what their buttons do.
No one expects that support they made fun of to do that much damage. A weapon is still a weapon, it hurts no matter what happens.
As a support main, I can say that the "stop healbotting" Tiktok was super true. Mercy is my main, and the times I do well on her is when my team is actively using cover and not face tanking damage, allowing me to have 50% or more Damage Boost beam usage. When I do well on Kiriko, I'm landing shots on someone who's getting hit by one of my DPS, assisting the kill. When I do well on Lucio, I'm in the enemies' faces speeding my rush team around and disrupting them with boops and damage. When I do well on Ana, I'm landing multi-man anti nades that often hit my injured tank as well because our two front lines are clashing.
Point is: You need to know how to use the offensive parts of a Support character's kit if you want to succeed.
thissss
Yep, even if you aren’t good at doing it, knowing the concepts and trying to strive for it is key rather than just healbotting out and losing because you left it entirely up to your teammates to win the game
i love the games where my damage amp stat is like 3k or 4k like DAMN BRO i am SUCH a good right clicker
As much as I love playing Brig I have to admit she is kind of shit now. But her damage and healing are closely linked by design, so you really are forced to brawl as her if you want to be the least bit useful.
@@ccricers I think brig is okay on the right maps with the right comps. She's kind of situational, but when you're rolling in a brawl with like 5k dmg, healing, and mit I agree she feels pretty good. Hitting your combo on somebody flanking your support partner and deleting them is where brig will really shine though.
As a medic main i can confidently say that the most important part of youre kit is your crossbow
Rein jumping in the ilios hole was so good, i had to rewatch it 7 times xdddd
lol
"We are fewer in number, but greater in spirit!" *proceeds to commit sudoku* 😂
@@mattemathias3242 Now we're even _fewer_ in number. Thanks, Rein. 😂
He just did his team a solid by making their spirit even greater
As a person that’s new to Overwatch I just wanna say thank you for teaching me the ways of Overwatch I wish everyone in the game acted and thought like you. You are the best Flats love ya
If everyone acted like Flats, Bronze wouldnt exist. Trolls would solve world hunger. And i wouldnt be hardstuck in quickplay.
Same new to ow and these TikTok vidoes actually ruin the game for me because they listen to these brain dead players
@@wbajohn3177 rule of thumb is that if they aren’t masters then I would take their words with a grain of salt, but creators like flats and jay3 are great for education
@@UmbrasMercy hardstuck quickplay? I can’t tell if that’s a new low or if you’ve ascended to not giving a shit about comp
@@UmbrasMercy also half the planet would be dead from obesity lol
The comments on that first tiktok are why I fight everyone who calls them "healers." It gives people the impression that's all that a support is supposed to do. I die a little every time I see someone on reddit like "LOOK HOW WELL I PLAYED ON KIRIKO - 35K+ HEALING!!!" while their damage is like ~1k.
Calling them healers isn’t that big of a deal lmao, I’ve been playing this game for 4 years and still call them healers, it doesn’t change anything, it’s not like calling them healers means they’re just supposed to heal, I am literally masters in Support, and on mic, I call them healers.
@@PastPositive It's for the people who _aren't_ like you. I've literally seen people argue that these characters should be healing, "or else why are they called healers??" It's to fight that perception that's held who aren't you.
@@PastPositive bad take, you may call them healers and not think of them that way, but so many others call them healers cause they expect them to be a healbot, and continuing to call them healers will just amplify that, instead of calling them supports which is what they are. Also what novenae said, good take
@@PastPositive Calling them healers IS a bad idea. Because new players will consider supports to simply be healers.
Technically all heroes are suppory heroes. DPS support killing people, tanks support not dying, and healing heroes… support not dying.
Flats reacting to TikToks about Overwatch really is interesting. I spend all day as a therapist working with clients, helping them to learn to regulate and manage their own emotions. Flats gives the same type of advice that I do. "You cannot control what other people do, but if you control what you do, you CAN and almost always WILL have a positive influence on the outcome of things over the long-term." It's so interesting that the same basic idea holds true in video games as it does in other parts of life. And this is why I watch Flats! You get the "Therapist Seal of Approval" from me, Flats. 👍
It's worth pointing out a difference with ranked PvP is it's guaranteed that you will slowly rank up over a long time if you put in the effort. Because on average - statistically - you will have a ~50% winrate if you rely on your teammates to win the game for you. Real life can be very different, as you may encounter great failures or successes in your life through no actions of your own. If Overwatch were like real life you might one day suddenly drop from plat to bronze, or from plat to GM - it's _unfair._
What I think is _more_ revealing is that people expect Overwatch ranked _to be unfair_ and they wish that someone on their team will randomly carry them to GM. Overwatch ranked is more fair than real life.
Medic TF2 definitely spends more time healing than OW supports but the difference is in DPS-Supp ratios. In TF2 it’s usually 5/1 respectively, seen in 6s, or even 8/1 in highlander. EVEN THEN medics still use their crossbow for cheeky picks every so often, playmaking is still important on that character. It’s all about knowing the time to make plays happen
@@rastas_4221 think it’s just the one character (at least for healing their team, a couple characters have ways to heal them self)
@@rastas_4221 only one dedicated healer.
2 offense classes that offer utility items that help their team heal on damage dealt.
2 defense that can offer healing with their tools but not as much as the main healer can.
Other 2 support characters of TF2 don't offer healing ,instead they have tools to pick off key enemy targets instantly.
Never underestimate a well timed ubersaw swing.
If you try to get crossbow picks on highlander and your not building on my highlander team I will mailbomb your house.
And getting kills with the ubersaw
I always appreciate Flats willingness to be brutally be honest and share what's going to make you better in a sarcastic yet still helpful manner
A good tip to climb is to always be positive. If you think someone needs to switch ask in the nicest way possible and there's simply no need to say things like "dps diff" "tank diff" ect, You're just gonna make that player frustrated, they're not gonna be focusing and you're hindering your own chances. Even if you have a toxic player, just try to ignore them and re-enforce your teammates also without trying to make them upset. What I like to do for example if theyre complaining about say a teammate wasting their ult or dying or something just try to take responsibility, you won't upset the toxic player and you might help the other person feel better.
Yes this! Positivity is a game maker, if you believe you can win then you’ll perform better. If you believe your going to lose then you’ll subconsciously not try (as hard) because you, deep down, think winning is impossible.
The Slacks method. So named for the dots 2 player who had fairly poor mechanical skill and game sense (at least for his rank) but made up for it with loads of positive energy and encouraging the team to work together
Unfortunately, at this time, Overwatch is a very good tool to dump out their emotions from life, toxicity and passive anger that people want to free. Those comes not from air, they just translate anger and pain from the people that made them that pain (mostly parents) further to other people in the game, and then these people in the game recieve those feelings (if they are sensetive to these triggers, which most people are now) and translate further, for example, blaming other people in other match in overwatch. The world is ruled by emotions and our brains, analysis, conscious attempts to control yourself CAN help, but these will never erase your emotional trigger. So if you have pain from the past (mostly childhood, when your brain tries to catch everything around you so hard, because you need to adapt to reality and not die) triggers will haunt you no matter what. The wars in the world actually happen because of this thing, we ALL were just little babies that just wanted to have some love and life, even the "worst" humans in our history. Modern therapy moves in direction of people finally expressing these emotions that make us trigger, but it still can't work properly with fear. Because fear of feeling these emotions again and remembering those conflicts from the old past is really strong thing. I right now making a research with my girlfriend and sucsesfully continue the big branch of theraphy (that was failed to be researched further after 70-s), it's really paintful to feel something really bad again, but now understanding what was going on and who did that to me, it makes all the anger go to the certain people, and these people are not even around but your brain now knows why you feel this or that and this is the way to destroy toxicity. My girlfriend remembered how her mother was beating her head against the floor for her not putting her toys in the closet, and the scream when she remembered this and her brain made her feel this again was... the true primal scream, and after that she started to feel different and not for the day, but ot this day. Else we will describe in our book(books?) and I hope everyone will be able to read those. Sorry for my English
For sure actually. I actually was playing a quickplay game of all things and was duo queuing when I started getting flamed multiple times as sym by our mercy for not killing genji and missing shots on him (my aim with her projectile is still questionable to say the least) till my friend chimed in that I'm still working on the character and that it's just quick play. My friend ended up telling me to stay on sym and kept encouraging to tryafter I almost felt I should switch and I even got pog and helped get the final after building up charge and tping onto the back line to kill both supports that were. It's honestly crazy how just staying positive and playing with positive people can totally help your game play improve and better your experience.
I had a comp game that one of my teammates left and we still almost won, it just goes to show that when you stick through it you can do it.
Depends on rank kinda, but i have won a 4v5 on arcade CTF before haha
"If I was blind, I wouldn't ask another blind guy what color that wall is. I'd ask someone who can see."
This was a genuine revelation. I feel zen as fuck now. I will never sweat team rage ever again as I climb.
this is a bit of a logical fallacy in this case, as to get maximum potential out of your team, you're going to have to listen to your teammates.
I stopped diving with Winston in gold, because the DPS and gold kirikos have no clue to dive. What gold & below players want is a Reinhardt who holds the shield 24/7 and they just shoot through shield. And you have to comply if you want to win.
The advice flats is giving is for high elo not below diamond.
@@swordofkhaine8464 as the saying goes: one person being an idiot is one person being an idiot, five people being idiots is a plan. The more people co-operate with each other, no matter how poorly their actual plan is, the higher their odds of succeeding. Whether or not to accomodate to the team always depends on how many people you're doing it with. Single dps flanking into their backline? Leave 'em. Tank and support charging ahead? If you back them up, it might actually work.
the "how do you have so many kills you're support" one absolutely sent me 🤣🤣
had a dude playing tank complaining that I wasn't healing enough on kiriko me and my friend were duoing he had 45 kills I had 27...
I like how Flats has Jay3’s twitch channel bookmarked before his own. What a bro
I appreciate all the content Flats. Even if I feel burnt out from the game, you keep bringing great OW related content that keeps me engaged with it still. I'm Diamond, and now my goal is to set my sights on Masters!
Yeah let’s gooo! I’m diamond 4 on tank atm aiming for masters. I’m sure we’ll both make it!
@@cupcakecavlry5560 i believe!!!!
You got this, I’m t500 aiming for t500 let’s gooo
The random poker card analogy is great.
Your team has 5 cards, the enemy team has 5 cards, best hand wins.
Except if you're consistently an Ace you'll probably win more.
As you rank up both teams have more consistently good cards.
If you're just a 3 of diamonds, you're gonna lose a bunch.
Wow I like this
This is anime protagonist mindset. If you tell this to two different persons & they are on the opposite teams, then your analogy falls apart. You are essentially saying that to climb you have to better than 9 people in your game. That is an absurd amount of work to put in a VIDEO GAME, especially if you are not actively earning money or aspiring to earn money via streaming or going pro in a reasonably near future.
@@godspeedthe13th It's not that strict a rule. Watch any Unranked to GM. Those players ARE better than the rest of the lobby, but still lose some games.
And just because you tell two people to do the same thing doesn't mean they become equal.
I agree and don't agree on the same time.
It's completely true in theory but not as much in practice.
How many people are really an Ace? Most people would be more of an better card but not "the best".
While yes, when someone is playing against people waaay below their real skill level they tend to win more easily (and should climb!), but the closer you get to your respective level the more shrinks your impact since the skill level of all players is more even (or at least should be, depending on the rank since I think low elos can have huge skill gaps between players).
While you could handle a whole team on your own in low elo games, you can't anymore in higher elos / closer to your best.
So yes, the better hand still wins. But getting those wins will be harder (as it should be) and it depends on "luck" (getting those better cards) if you can actually win, since most people aren't Aces but the enemies could be (and if you see it like that the enemy team will have more chances in actually getting an Ace).
And sadly, those 0,000001% bad luck exceptions also exist. Some won't be climbing when they are just slightly better than the others but no Aces / not good enough to have an huge impact and carry the game but get other cards just "way" worse than the enemies.
Also I think it really depends on which rank we're talking about. In high ratings a single mistake can throw the game, making it more even, while others in low ratings could be dead weight and still win because there are Aces in their teams just popping off (and there are a lot of people in lower ranks getting undeserved wins because the others/one or two players were just way better, including me getting some wins for some stupid mates that I personally prefered to lose but I still want to climb and not wait for getting teams "deserving" of a win, so yea..).
@@izal4625 That's why you need to focus on YOUR improvement and not worry about your team. If you aren't the Ace then you are exactly where you belong and thus WON'T climb. The only way to get better is to practice things you aren't good at and fix your mistakes. Climbing ranked isn't a given, it has to be earned. You cannot expect to climb to, say, Masters if you don't play like one.
As someone whose first hero was Anna, I remember being shocked that other supports don't heal by shooting your teammates
“We are fewer in number but greater in spirit” as Reinhardt walks in the Ilios Pit. Classic.
Gonna be honest, I’ve always been that “pretend 5 head” and never even realized it. And you honestly made me realize I should just focus on my gameplay more and less on my teammates gameplay! Live you flats, great content as always!
I only started playing in 2. Learned a lot from flats videos and these videos are always hilariously.
Yes, ow streamers and pro players are the only people with good tips. They have been playing since 2016 and know more than anyone else in ow. Don’t listen to tik tok and while flats may not be the best player in the world, he’s better than most.
@@Bro1212_ I agree completely and flats analysis on the lower ranks is always very accurate which shows he knows what he’s talking about to me.
Thank you for making a series out of this. I think a lot of new players need these videos because TikTok is, evidently, misinformed. (I think the OP from the first video was a shiny Pokemon.)
A square shiny to be specific, he’s probably the one guy on TikTok that isn’t blatantly spreading misinformation on the game lmao
People using TikTok for any kind of information is questionable ...
My favourite role to run when solo queuing is support. Because it feels like you can enable teammates the most of any role
I hope Flats continues to make these videos and hopefully some of them blow up cause the amount of info in these videos is amazing. Players just need a better perspective for ranked, which will change the culture of ranked soloQ
Honestly, Flat's comment about "if you're in silver, you shouldn't ask someone in silver for advice" is absolutely the reason why i turned off all VC/Map/Team chat until i get to Diamond. The last straw was getting yelled at for waiting to group with my team. Ping system and voice queues have been enough to climb from silver to plat. I've been enjoying the game more and my mental has been WAY better also.
Step one is being aware enough to know when you are bringing value, or just being carried.
OW2 noob here, I just wanna say thank you to Flats, I’m so happy to say after holding off being scared to do comp I placed silver 2 for DPS and Silver 1 for Support and currently trying to place for tank, I’m 2/3 but I’m just so nervous on tank. All that being said I owe it all to you Flats, your vid’s educate me so much, while I need a lot more refining and practice. I’m happy to say I love the game and I love your streams and vids and commentary.
Flats I'm so glad I found your channel only a few weeks into playing overwatch. You've made me so much better than I otherwise would have been.
as an ana main that last clip actually helped me so much after listening to flats
After a fat sleep dart you can solo kill most 200hp targets with shoot, nade, shoot, melee cancel combo. Especially if you can line it up so you're behind them when your first shot wakes them up.
I think mercy is the exception of actually having 0 damage. Because she's gonna be damage boosting, so her assists need to be high
True, but good mercy players usually find at least a couple opportunities to whip out the Glock per match.
Low dymage: yes. Zero damage: not really. xD
@@peterpan4038 bingo! If there’s a widow on the enemy you better know I’m pulling out the Glock w valk every time..
Seeing mercy with the Glock out always a trip hahahaha you know they probably fed up 🤣
@@peterpan4038 I think the times to pull out glock is either because 1. Everyone is dead so you're pulling out a last resort 2. An Ana accidentally nano'd you or 3. Trolling and trying to flex on the enemy team
@@peterpan4038 and it works out, I got into a QP played battle mercy. And we ended up winning. I didn't heal for shit.
Every new overwatch player needs to watch these vids. So informative even for me that has played for 4 years. Flats ur a legend.
Gotta admit, first time ever playing Lucio, I made the same mistake. I was playing with friends and I was like, "I can't hit with these frigging heals when you're wiggling all over the place."
Luckily, they quickly corrected me that it was an area and told me how to switch. Thank goodness for good friends.
flats your amazing ive been using your advice of stepping up when teamates seem to underperform absolutely love you man
I feel like i was one of those people. I am looking back on myself and thinking i am being called out. My primary thing to work on now is staying out of chat (for now), accepting what and who i can not control, and focusing on my own gameplay. It's not my teammates. Sometimes it is. But over the course of many games, even if there was smurfs, it is still me. I belong there until i improve more.
And I guarantee with this mindset you’ll for sure climb. Best way to climb is to improve your own gameplay/mentality!!
I think that's a good mentality to have. Like you said, sometimes it does also just take many games to get there, which I think many people struggle with and then believe they can't carry if after X number of games they still aren't out of their rank - only if they are only a little better, it just takes longer for that to move them up the ranks. Game just takes some patience and imo it helps once we accept where we are and don't care about it that much anymore. Still some, but not too much that one terrible loss immediately tilts us 😀
Pro tip from a bronze player (oxymoron i know) - If you find yourself tilting, take a break! Usually if i lose 2-3 games in a row i call it a day in comp and go fuck around in arcade or go play quick play or another game, etc. Comp isnt going anywhere, deep breaths
this is so true!! and good advice for any game at all really
I was thinking 'ok just abandon the dva while she isn't meched' on the last one and thank god you pointed it out lmaooo
"the kids who are always hard stuck and yell at their teammates" samito chilling over there
This reminds me of when my friends brother came to ow, and he was mechanically very good but his awareness was so ass. He would not take health packs cause the supports should “be doing their job better”.
Edit: I wasn’t the support here I was playing rein
Please do more of these, these videos are so entertaining
When I first started learning how to actually play overwatch I was one of those five head Andy’s whom would blame his teammates and try to explain my losses in terms of their mistakes. The most sobering experience for me was actually watching my gameplay and realizing I was playing just as poorly. I think there is this sort of effect on people learning a new thing that once they start learning, they believe they already know what they need to know. They must first come to the realization that they are ignorant about a lot more nuances and then consciously begin fixing them. All learning follows this pattern of unconscious ignorance to conscious ignorance to conscious learning to finally unconscious learning. If you’re bitching about your low Elo teammates, you’re probably still unconsciously ignorant, and need to make your ignorance conscious before you can begin to improve.
not reading allat😂
@@saheedthegreat6770 don't worry I did :)
I remember one time I heard a support (Baptiste) say "it's not healers job to do damage" lmaooo
yeah he’ll stay in a low rank for a while lmao
Baptiste is literally the worst hero pick to say BS like that with.
literal dps with a heal rightclick btw
bro literall has an ultimate that DOUBLES DAMAGE
That hurts. I love bap, and its so easy to basically get the same amount or more damage than healing even when you're solo support. He just does so much damage.
"we are fewer in number, BUT GREATER IN SPIRIT!!" *kills himself
Played a game last night where the DIFFERENCE in my team and their team was that Baptiste had more damage than their teams dps. On top of out-healing the other support on their team. It was a HARD bap carry. Bap had like 10k damage and 14k heals, I couldn't even be mad my team lost because it was so damn impressive
"If I was blind I wouldn't ask someone whos blind what color that wall is" 💀
13:28 Tbh I'm almost certain the ana left the soldier sleeping because he just used his ult and wanted to wait untill the ult was over to avoid risk, but this could just be me.
yep thats what they were thinking, but nading him would have been a kill, its the better solution
No yea you’re right. Flats is just saying that as soon as the ana saw the dva go up and try to kill the soldier the ana should have helped to get the kill fast. Rather than running away and watching
Ah ok, thx for clearing that up guys.
if ana hits a target that is 200 hp and has nade up she can always oneshot them, its guranteed no risk required...
4:41 Guys I love playing medic in overwatch landing crossbow bolts, ubering my winston, and don't get me started on ubersawing genjis that get into your face.
mercy's melee should instakill players 75% of the time too i think that would be a good change
If I had a dollar for everytime someone told me to "stop dpsing and heal" when I was playing Brig, i'd have at least a few hundred dollars by now.
That rein clip in the well had me dying 😂
This is a series I didn't know I needed!!! Lol
I love this series so much
Hi, old medic main here current supp main. What the heck was that comment on about, the amount of scouts I have insta gibbed with a crit crossbow is pretty high. Ubersaw is also quite helpful for builting uber. heal and switch to crossbow fire then switch back to heals if need be
I'm a casual support player and I personally find it more productive and interesting to play with strangers, because when I play with group I tend to troll and do things for memes muuuch more often. I also often get distracted by conversation with my game pals, or feel obligated to pocket them even if their performance is worse than one of other ppl in my team. (i rarely play 5 stack)
For that reason I prefer to play with strangers and almost never use vc (aside of actual callouts when needed).
And I absolutely agree - you can climb in ranked solo if you really want to.
At this rate Flats will lose all his brain cells in a short time.
Unironically learnt a shit ton from this video. Love it.
As a league player, that “stop their not even close” had me laughing my ass off
This is going to be a fun new series
I've been playing OW2 for about a month now, support (Ana) main. I definitely agree that shifting the use of my kit to aggression does a lot more than strict healing. It forced me to expand my situation awareness in games since I'm now keeping tabs on not just by 4 teammates, but a few of the enemy players as well for potential weak points to crack through with sleep darts, nades, or a quick scope to clean up the kill.
This is best series! Keep it going king!
11:15
reminds me of a game I had, where a teammate left, so it was a 4v5, BUT we were not only still winning, the enemy team also asked us to give them the win
I'm a new OW player, and your videos keep me sane. TY
Please keep this type of content coming Flats!
Rein : we are fewer in number but greater in spirit! *fucking dies*
I just love watching this, whenever I see these kind of TikToks, they just make me mad. Flats does a really good job on making clear what's wrong about them. The fact that some people are just borderline dumb and flats who's just pointing that out makes me happy.
i gained braincells on the first one the moment he checked the comments i lost all of them
lol that Ana running away after pinging the sleep is like the pinnacle of low elo.
Flats:
"get a trio so its easer to win"
Me with no friends
Getting into overwatch 2 you really make the game fun and you help me understand allot about myself and the game Thanks Flats
I watch your videos a lot, just got back into Overwatch after last playing a year ago in Overwatch 1.
I'm on a laggy laptop that's not mine and only able to move the mouse an inch either side and yet, I took your advice, started as support in bronze 4, next 7 games ignoring flamers, silver 4.
Thank you Flats, only up from here
4:26 I actually used to play medic in tf2 years and years ago lol
alright, that clip of the lucio trying to heal his widow by shooting them was pretty funny
Can confirm that when I first played Lucio back in OW1, I did shoot my teammates thinking that would heal them quicker.
The best one I heard today was “damage doesn’t even matter, heals do” as I had 22K heals with Moira and they had 3K damage with Sombra. I couldn’t even be mad
I don't main support, I usually play DPS or tank and the way I see it is: if u have done more damage than heals ur not doing well, moira and brig kinda being the exception and a few others I can pass with like zen, kiriko and lucio and obviously if u still have high healing it's not a problem. If I have more healing or even close healing to u (unless I'm hog) then what's are you doing? And lastly: just being present with us, especially if it's tank, just stay with us and its not gonna be a problem, Don't pocket necessarily but alot of supports I meet tend to wait back and when we need them they're not actually there to help or too far for it to matter.
Flats thinks in probabilities. That is a big sign of intelligence in my books. Love the content man!
"Ever play Medic?" I'm sorry, did they forget that the Medic has one of the most powerful melees in the game?
Crossbow, Ubersaw. Incredible utility.
Flats is 100% right about the people who rage in chat being the ones who have no clue.
I was spectating a friend of mine in QP, and her team had a new player trying out Mercy/Zen. Team Genji kept raging at them for their mistakes, this poor Mercy player didn't know why they were being raged at, got me all pissed and I told the Genji that I would spectate them and point out all their mistakes. Dude literally tried to blade into an already lost fight (3 people on their team dead) while being naded and at 10 HP. Other things as well like not going for the kill on an enemy zen at less than half HP and alone, trying to fight the Monkey and Moira by themselves etc. He shut up pretty quickly after. I also felt really bad for the support player cause you could tell that they're probably used to getting flamed, cause when they had swapped to Zen and ulted to save 3 people in their team, I wrote "nice ult" in chat and they APOLOGIZED to me. I had to tell them I was being serious and that they were playing well for being new :(
i would just like to thank flats for all the advice im new to OW and it really helps
Love these videos
I had a game once where both my supports had less than 1200 healing and the enemy team had triple that.
tired of trying to rely on others.
I definitely need to improve on not putting a lot of attention on what my teammates are doing stat wise and just focus on working around them, it’s a tough habit to shake off
All you can do is make suggestions. Raging usually doesn't help. If that doesn't work see what you can do to help them even if their strategy is stupid.
You know, i never felt so nostalgic and angry at the same time
The Lucio one hurt me. We had a bap that wouldn't heal grenade. Only the quick heal lol
The main issue I have with bronze/silver is the inconsistency. Rarely is it ever a close match. It's always one side steamrolling the other. Often both teams get steamrolled by each other on defense because nobody values their life (and they think you can outheal all damage, so guess who gets the blame), so it comes down to literal death downtime and then you're rolling even more dice on the few round 3/4 teamfights? I've played about 120 games and climbed 5 divisions. That's how thin the "but they have 5 people that could be bad" margins are. I found that turning my brain off and playing Moira really helps, even if I end up with more damage/elims than both of the DPS combined and still lose. It feels less demoralizing. But realistically, I don't want to spend much more time grinding myself out of this hole.
Hey do you think a tank character like doomfist should be actively engaging fights
@@diamondtheif4007 in silver? I’d rather he not be picked at all, the few DFs I see succeed mostly dive backlines and rely on teams being oblivious to him. Though they are usually pretty easy to shut down with Ana if they’re on the other team.
Outside of silver, probably.
The comment that said that none of the strats used in the video were used in OWL actually hurt my brain
That's the gold player watching an OWL game and spamming chat about how a pro player is so bad, and that it looks just like their comp games. There is so much happening that goes over their head like Flats said they may as well be blind.
Said it before ill say it some more i really really want a "healing received" stat to be added to the scoreboard. Would help supports see who isnt getting enough resources or if someone is making excuses of not being healed. Might lose function the higher you go but if the stat is shown to the whole lobby you can still see who on the enemy team is getting all of their resources and perhaps target someone based off of the information provided.
Yesss bro because I’ve had supports who just sit with our tank pumping him while I’m trying to fight a mercy pocket every fight and when I ask for healing they just say look I’m healing so much though, it would be a nice stat to be able to view some how
I rather remove damage and heal stats, they remove medal but not stat that medal use to rank for?
Remove toxicity bs, it's just like flats said people just farm stat and blame other
About leavers, yesterday I had two matches where 4 people from the enemy team just left in the second match and didn't come back. Felt so bad for the one perosn left (I guess gold lobby
The last one is so true. I don't know what kind of Ana would leave a slept target alone unless you need to contest, as a BM or something.
Especially if it's a highly dangerous target. Especially if you already have someone helping you killing it (your damage is usually not enough and you need at least one person; which you have).
Honestly solo que is an entirely different game, and I love it, especially as support. You have to learn to become so aware of the habits of your own teammates that it teaches you how to counter the other team as well
I've been focused more in Comp in OW2 than I ever did in OW1 and I've actually been really enjoying comp because I've been solely focused on MY gameplay and learning from MY mistakes. Win or lose, climb or drop in ranks, I've focusing on learning from every game.
im not the best im in the metal ranks but this is the way ive found to climb focus on improvement then sweat at the end of the season
My friend said Ana is the worst support because “she doesn’t do any healing at all”
Reinhardt with a healbotting Lucio, trying to rundown a backwalking Reaper is the epitome of disappointment
That medic comment is hilarious. I main medic and he is so unbelievably different than support in OW.
flats reacting to tiktoks has become my daily entertainment
Bro even as a TF2 player, Mercy is fairly similar but its like having the Medigun on left click and an already charged Kritz 24/7 on right click, just uses your other abilities god damn
"Half these tips weren't used by pros"
Iirc, Lucio was a must-pick for his mobility
They don't know what speed boost does, it is what it is
I had an Overwatch game where my teammates played very well and the enemy team were sporting and polite fellows :)
“if im Blind why tf fk should i ask a Blind guy what colour the Wall is?”😂
the bot rein falling in well is so funny nut i still remember ow 1 in rank i played monkey rage got nanoed try to save point as they had 98% snd then i leaped right into the hole