Michael Bay's Megatron: A roller-coaster of a character

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @Pigpen_YT
    @Pigpen_YT 2 года назад +368

    bro how the hell did this happen. I'm watching youtube and then suddenly your ranking of the best villains in the bay films video comes up. I watch it, great stuff. And I'm instantly like "wonder when he'll make the Megatron video." Check your channel and you uploaded it eight minutes ago. What are the odds lmao

    • @cslance6863
      @cslance6863 2 года назад +5

      Your profile picture is so fitting for your comment 🤣

    • @sophieprime4669
      @sophieprime4669 2 года назад +2

      Ayyyy pigpen!

  • @zeograndmaster6507
    @zeograndmaster6507 2 года назад +425

    Megatron in the 1st three movies was playing 5D chess.
    He worked for the Fallen, but only to achieve power for himself. Only a Prime can defeat the Fallen, so he allied with Sentinel Prime.
    Just on the off chance that the Allspark wouldn't be enough to deal with The Fallen.
    Even in RotF. Assume they won for a minute. They found the Matrix and blew up the Sun. Cool.
    Now Megatron can just use the matrix to revive Sentinel Prime and off the Fallen.
    Probably off Sentinel too afterwards. The plan could still work.
    But by movie 3 Megatron is tired and wounded from the numerous failings in his plans.
    Just because he played 5D chess doesn't mean he was actually good at it. Lol

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 2 года назад +57

      This makes too much sense...

    • @relicojustice2623
      @relicojustice2623 2 года назад +61

      Wow, that makes way too much sense. I’m actually gonna consider that my headcanon now, because otherwise his motivations in the first three movies just don’t line up

    • @lego1999100
      @lego1999100 2 года назад +47

      Congrats on thinking about the plot more than the actual writers of these terrible movies

    • @orion_paxx
      @orion_paxx 2 года назад +10

      one thing is that megatron really looked devastated when the fallen died

    • @zeograndmaster6507
      @zeograndmaster6507 2 года назад +42

      @@orion_paxx Well yeah, Megatron didn't follow The Fallen for no reason at all. Losing him right then and there was terrible.
      He'd lost the Allspark, lost the Harvester mere moments ago, lost the Matrix, THEN lost the Fallen.
      Megs whole plan just unravelled. All he has left is Sentinel and the pillars.. But he can't use the pillars without Sentinel, can't revive Sentinel without the Allspark or Matrix, surely The Fallen could've just made another Harvester and then they could worry about getting the Matrix back.
      With the Fallen dead, all of his potential knowledge was forever lost to Megatron, and now he has his back up against the wall in this war.
      Also yesterday I realised just how bad things could've gotten if Megatron won in RotF amd destroyed our Sun for energy.
      Imagine if he had the Matrix, revived Sentinel, killed The Fallen, and kept the Harvester.
      Now he can use Sentinels pillars to space bridge Earth to another solar system and use the Harvester to destroy another sun for energy.
      Megatron would literally have a teleporting Death Star and an unlimited power supply.

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 2 года назад +380

    Megatron does have some interesting character development after dark of the moon. He's less of a tyrant and more of a depressed loner who lost everything and only wants his world back and no more war

    • @The_Watchful_Scribe
      @The_Watchful_Scribe 2 года назад +16

      I agree

    • @Rita-Jerome
      @Rita-Jerome 2 года назад +102

      The original ending of dotm would’ve been so much better… the truce being real and megatron just wanting to end the war and actually save and defend cyebertron

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 2 года назад +13

      @@Rita-Jerome yeah

    • @nickbutcher760
      @nickbutcher760 2 года назад +26

      This is why I argue DOTM Megatron should be the movie representative of the cinematic Megatrons, his design was also the best looking I that movie

    • @historicflame972
      @historicflame972 2 года назад

      @@Rita-Jerome I JUST SAVED YOUR LIFE, WAHT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *Dies*

  • @jonwoodhouse1444
    @jonwoodhouse1444 2 года назад +544

    I actually feel that Animated did the best job of telling us why Megatron is evil, even though the show never directly addressed it. In animated, Megatron has a clear objective of reclaiming Cybertron, which the Decepticons view as their historical and cultural home. That goal itself is not inherently evil. But, the fact that Megatron is willing to do anything necessary to accomplish that objective, even slaughtering everyone who gets in his way, makes him evil. But Animated Megatron isn't evil for the sake of being evil, he's a realistic kind of evil. Like how Stalin starved 30+ million people in order to export food and pay for construction equipment and vehicles to industrialize the USSR. Industrialization is not inherently evil, but slaughtering 30+ million to achieve it is. Liberating your home from your sworn enemy is not evil, but stealing the source of life in the universe to create an army of slaves to retake your homeland, terrorizing an innocent planet of technologically inferior aliens in the process, and commiting endless warcrimes most definitely is.

    • @dkkanofkash8798
      @dkkanofkash8798 2 года назад +46

      Megatron and Stalin have a lot of parallels, the only difference being Megatron leads his troops into battle himself while Stalin did not (which makes sense)

    • @uberkirbeeh7954
      @uberkirbeeh7954 2 года назад +29

      @@dkkanofkash8798 The Decepticons were created as a parallel to the whole USSR and it's army. It's only natural that they, both Megs and Stalin and Decepticons and the Red Army have a lot in common.

    • @WhyTho525
      @WhyTho525 2 года назад +7

      @@dkkanofkash8798
      IDW2005 Megatron is basically Lenin-turned-Stalin.

    • @JMObyx
      @JMObyx 2 года назад +17

      And the starvation of the USSR wasn't even something they did on purpose, but its sole cause were delusions about the nature of agriculture and the fact that they wiped out the Kulaks, who were the best farmers in their nation. Keep in mind the Kulaks were not persecuted or relocated, no, the Soviets made them into an enemy because they were thriving and prosperous, and all Communistic movements exploit the jealousy of their followers to launch civil wars for the express purpose of taking everything the well-to-do have and putting them in the hands of the head robber barons. The Kulaks were EXTERMINATED, they in a matter of years went completely extinct because the Soviets took every scrap of food they had, and told the masses to kill them because they were greedy.
      The starvation of the USSR was merely a side-effect of the stupid bigotry of the communists

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 года назад +9

      I agree, Animated Megatron was also a menacing schemer much like G1, but was more than capable of throwing down when he did mobilize. And the man doing his voice acting was a solid, solid choice. His cold, menacing delivery makes Animated my favorite Megatron after the classic G1 voice of Frank Welker.

  • @project4061
    @project4061 2 года назад +122

    11:59
    The reason why Megatron had the Predacons was because of an experiment Shockwave was working on, and wished to utilize the new tool at his (Megatron's) disposal.
    I do agree Aligned/Prime was the best incarnation.

  • @TheWorldsBiggestFan89
    @TheWorldsBiggestFan89 2 года назад +26

    Megatron: Even in death there is no command but mine!
    A second later:
    I failed you Master!!!!!

    • @etam8099
      @etam8099 2 года назад +4

      That line is pretty bad yeah, although you could argue Meg is still in charge yet sees Fallen as ya know, the same way Optimus saw Sentinel, ironic how both ended up as traitors

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 года назад +62

    I feel like Bayverse Megatron was trying to have depth, but it kept getting undermined by Bay's hackiness as a director.
    Like, I'm pretty sure they were trying to create an angle of "The Decepticons are actually trying to save Cybertron and their species" during Revenge of the Fallen and Dark of the Moon, but the idea wasn't permitted to grow at all.
    Because Bay is a hack.

    • @ajgunter8932
      @ajgunter8932 2 года назад +13

      Bay is a glorified special effects producer

    • @kami_narisama
      @kami_narisama 2 года назад +10

      ​@@ajgunter8932 so weird cause he's good when he actually tried, like Ambulance.
      i do feel however that Bay has grown tired of making Transformers ever since the 3rd movie. I recall he pretty much said that he doesn't want to make a new movie after the 1st one.
      RoTF could've performed better if it wasn't for every writer having a strike

    • @ajgunter8932
      @ajgunter8932 2 года назад +1

      @@kami_narisama I guess he's good when there isn't a lot of lore behind a topic.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 года назад +2

      He's an awesome director and didn't write the movies.

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 года назад +6

      @@ltb1345 He wrote Revenge of the Fallen, due to the writer's guild strike, but I digress.
      The biggest example of how Bay hamstrung the films and characters is obvious as early as the first movie.
      Which character in the first TF film...
      A: Has a backstory
      B: Has a history and demonstrates knowledge about cars
      C: Has a character arc through the film
      If you answered "Mikaela" you are correct.
      Now look at how Bay shoots Mikaela's character and chooses to focus on Sam as the protagonist instead, despite Sam clearly not being intended by the screenplay to be the main character.
      "Auteur" directors like Bay have a lot of control over how the final product turns out.
      For the record: Sam as presented by Bay is how Bay sees fans of Transformers. It's actually pretty insulting, considering how pathetic he is.

  • @ayaannazir7308
    @ayaannazir7308 2 года назад +8

    0:14 I have to agree with him, he really looks very terrifying, I still remember watching transformers as a kid and he used to scare the shit out of me because of his look

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 2 года назад +119

    Megatron's character in the 1st movie is kind of the best vershion of him in all the film's....Not only is he Massive and a major threat but also he's not bossed around by any other transfomer because as we know Megatron answers to no one....But the best version's of him are from Animated and the aligned continuity in general

    • @ish8966
      @ish8966 2 года назад +2

      Megatron in the first movie was an absolute menace I hate how they made him so submissive in the 2nd/3rd movie. His presence loomed over the entire first movie and when he was freed you could see why he was so feared among both the autobots/deceptions.

    • @optimascrime5235
      @optimascrime5235 2 года назад +3

      @@ish8966 That's probably why he became my favourite Transfomer...Because I got into the franchise from that 1st movie 😂

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Год назад +1

      @@optimascrime5235 me too..... A shame michael bay wasted is potencial

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Год назад +1

      While in the ds games we see what he is capable of

    • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
      @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Год назад

      he wasn't good at all in that movie

  • @eyywannn8601
    @eyywannn8601 2 года назад +50

    I feel like this title is kinda misleading. It feels more like a review of all the other Megatrons and less about Bay Megatron. I was expecting the final portion to be more of a comparison.
    I also agree. Meg’s characterization definitely suffered because the writers clearly didn’t plan the whole thing ahead of time, especially with Megs’ multiple schemes.
    Personally, wasn’t a fan of Bay Galvatron at all because all that lead up of him tricking the humans into getting the Seed and him having no spark ultimately didn’t go anywhere. I also agree that he really felt more like Megatron than G1’s Galvatron. I did like how he acted after he lost, really did give G1 Megs Saturday morning cartoon vibes. Same with him retreating in TLK.
    That said, I actually really liked TLK Megs not just in appearance but with how he appears to soften a bit. It almost feels like he’s a tired old vet who just wants Cybertron back.

  • @historicflame972
    @historicflame972 2 года назад +5

    2:25 I know that in the aligned continuity with prime and stuff, the cons were meant to be heavy labour units while the auto bots where the pencil pushers, eventually leading to decepticon uprisings when they were denied rights
    Then he started chugging space crack

  • @adr1806
    @adr1806 2 года назад +33

    I like to think that the Big plan in the three movies, was to use the all spark and the sun energy extractor to revive Cybertron once sentinel got the planet in earth orbit, but they failed because Megatron freeze, the Decepticons on earth doesn't found the matrix and Sentinel ship was destroyed.

  • @xøCommando
    @xøCommando 2 года назад +22

    0:56 Well, the reason why he didn’t…is because every time he tried, he always failed. So he decided to go into hiding on Earth. He and his other Decepticons wanted to rebuild their own planet since it was dying out a lot. He tried to make a deal with Sentinel and they both agreed about the plan. I don’t know what time that took place though.

  • @rando5521
    @rando5521 2 года назад +46

    The biggest problem with megatron in the movies was that after the first movie he got sidelined everytime in favor of another villain

    • @etam8099
      @etam8099 2 года назад +3

      True, they couldn't let him go cause he's iconic yet wanted to keep things fresh, in ROTF you could argue that he was still very active and relevant more than Fallen actually, DOTM man was all beat up but still ended up playing a very important role, AOE it was cleary more of a set up for Galvatron that never went anywhere, because since the fans hated him, they literally brought back Megs once again, nullifying all the build up to Galvatron

  • @StareachValcin
    @StareachValcin 2 года назад +12

    Megatron has always been a good villain and a formidable threat in every transformers continuity. This includes the Michael Bay films, but with each passing film, Megatron loses more of his credibility.
    In the first Bay film, despite being frozen for most of the film, Megatron continues to be built up as a threat. By the time Megatron officially comes out to fight, his threat becomes very real. He killed Jazz and had the advantage over Optimus Prime for most of their fight. Even though Sam ultimately killed Megatron , it doesn't diminish his threat because Sam used the allspark to do it.
    In revenge of the fallen, bringing Megatron back definitely increases the threat level of the deceptions, but revealing Megatron to be the servant of someone else diminishes Megatron as a threat. He does get points for killing Optimus Prime in the film though, even if Optimus defeated him and the fallen in the end with the upgrade he received from Jetfire.
    Dark of the moon is really what starts to ruin Megatron in this film franchise. Even though Megatron convinced Sentinel Prime to defect from the autobots, Sentinel treated Megatron like second best, with Megatron just taking it. The film got it right that Megatron doesn't play second fiddle to anyone, and how Megatron is responsible for Sentinel Prime's defeat. Then they had an injured one armed Optimus Prime kill Megatron in 15 seconds. More of Megatron's credibility is lost.
    Age of extinction, Megatron is reborn as Galvatron, but is reduced to being the secondary villain of the film. After that, Galvatron goes back to being Megatron in the last knight, and once again works for someone else. Megatron is handled better in this film and is ultimately defeated by Optimus Prime. Hopefully if there's a next film, Megatron will be handled better.

  • @konstantinkoverchenko9587
    @konstantinkoverchenko9587 2 года назад +4

    Not only was the menacing teeth a nice touch, but the jet alt mode was just right.

  • @etam8099
    @etam8099 2 года назад +5

    Something i like about this Meg is him trying to make up for what he did, he was always after this in every movie, infact Megs development is quite the case, cause while Prime gets darker and darker, Megs gets softer and softer, until we have the best showcase of development between the relationship of Prime and Megs in TLK compared to 2007:
    "you left me no chose brother" Prime to Megs corpse in 2007
    Meg "we were brothers once!"
    Prime "Once"
    TLK

  • @beauxr.benoit1374
    @beauxr.benoit1374 2 года назад +6

    The only reason Megatron was in these movies was for Prime to have a punching bag.

  • @TLN_Nello
    @TLN_Nello 2 года назад +77

    Personally I think the last knight should’ve been about The Creators, Nemisis Prime and The Broken down faction called the decepticons.
    I understand bay wanted to go all out but having the dragons and all this knight stuff rlly made the film confusing and took away from what I think the film should’ve been about.
    The relationship between Optimus and Megatron. There was one line in TLK that got my brain going. It’s where he said “I want what anyone wants, to go home.”
    In my mind this implies he understands the fact that the decepticons basically lost. They are powerless and having the decepticons in the 5th film just be made out of criminals is an interesting idea that went nowhere.
    What does Megatron think after he’s lost 4 times to the autobots even with his superiority complex from the first film. The 5th film could’ve showed how Megatron doesn’t want the war anymore, showing him accept the L and just wanting cybertron back. Obviously he would need to do something horrific to bring it back to life and the autobots have to stop him ect. But it’s all right there.
    But yet again it’s bay. I love the films but man so much unused potential in favor of mindless action.
    Something I think could’ve been fun but rlly wild would be the concept of Megatron needing to team up with the autobots in order to defeat Nemisis Prime. The Bee v Nemisis prime fight was weak asl and served nothing. Having Megatron realize that his main goal needs to change from wanting to go home to stopping Nemisis prime from basically being MK11 Raiden could’ve been interesting. Also could’ve explored the thought of Bee being a leader of the autobots since Optimus departure. What does Bee think about teaming up with the group he’s been fighting for eons? So much potential

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 года назад +10

      You know, you compared Nemesis Prime to MK11 Dark Raiden and I see you too noticed some of the many similarities MK11 and TLK have in terms of story and concept, but also in terms of quality and wasted potential.

    • @TLN_Nello
      @TLN_Nello 2 года назад +5

      @@vaggos2003 I’m a huge MK fan so Yh

    • @eyywannn8601
      @eyywannn8601 2 года назад +16

      I don’t really feel like TLK Megs accepts that the Decepticons lost, more like that he’s grown tired of the fighting and just wants Cybertron back.
      With that said, completely agree with what you were saying. As the trailers being released for the movie hyped me up, I really did think that was how it was going to go, with Megs teaming up with humans against Nemesis for Cybertron. It’s part of why I was so disappointed with TLK.

    • @TLN_Nello
      @TLN_Nello 2 года назад +12

      @@eyywannn8601 I mostly hated TLK bc I felt like the film was spitting in my face as a bayverse fan. My fav film is AOE but when you’re tryna tell me that the autobots have been around since WW2 when we say them arrive to earth in the first film, I got a problem 💀Like am I stupid to you?
      Also having the new decepticons die within 15 minutes of meeting them almost made me leave the theaters.

    • @eyywannn8601
      @eyywannn8601 2 года назад +6

      @@TLN_Nello I thought having the Knights reveal themselves to humans long after Megs touched down on Earth was kinda neat and I guess you could say they landed on Earth multiple times….
      But literally what was the writer’s room supposed to do if they didn’t get these things right? The writer’s room was completely useless cuz they ignored so much of the previous story, not to mention a lot of them even had their current alt modes visible in the pictures.
      Agreed with the Decepticons. I thought it was neat how Megs retreated like it was G1 but almost all of the new Decepticons died worthlessly.

  • @slimpickens7637
    @slimpickens7637 2 года назад +3

    I honestly forgot megatrons role in The Last Knight, I remember his design and the weird deception suicide squad but I really dont remember him having an actual impact on the story

  • @crdbtmn8232
    @crdbtmn8232 2 года назад +10

    Your point about the decepticons being warriors if I am recalling correctly on cybertron the society was split between the lower class bots built for heavy duty work hence why they are larger and stronger than most autobots who were medics or scientists. I know in some Megatron is a gladiator but not sure about all the decepticons

    • @Cobra-Commander83
      @Cobra-Commander83 2 года назад +1

      The Decepticons varied between lower class bots, and lowly criminals. In IDW Megatron was a Miner before fighting in the Kaon Underground.

  • @gadielgonzalez2755
    @gadielgonzalez2755 2 года назад +2

    No words can describe the excitement I feel every time I hear that theme song 7:17.

  • @syweb2
    @syweb2 2 года назад +3

    0:55 He wasn't trying to turn Earth's technology into Decepticons, he just wanted the Allspark himself so he could make more Decepticons on his homeworld (or at the very least, sustain his existing army since that was their only source of Energon).

  • @costantinemf4207
    @costantinemf4207 2 года назад +8

    1:54 saying boy is racist now 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @danielfarkas2110
    @danielfarkas2110 2 года назад +6

    Brilliant video.
    I havent seen this sort of video from anyone in a really long time. Thank you for looking at Transformers in a proper fashion. The reason i say that is because there are too many youtubers nowadays who are biased towards one form of the media. You are not. And for that i thank you.

  • @sashabraus9422
    @sashabraus9422 2 года назад +4

    "But i also like talking about films and shows that are good" Shows G1

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 2 года назад +4

      So, what's the problem with that?
      G1 is very good

    • @dylanhudec979
      @dylanhudec979 6 месяцев назад

      @@alejandroelluxray5298 no not really it’s too cheesy

  • @omegon2540
    @omegon2540 2 года назад +3

    Ironically megatron became less aggressive as the moives go on and prime becomes more villain like

  • @Cybermat47
    @Cybermat47 2 года назад +3

    Cyclops: ‘1986 Megatron kills Brawn.’
    Starscream: ‘Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.’

  • @HughJainus69
    @HughJainus69 2 года назад +14

    Dude the "boy" line is such a reach 😂

    • @hideofreakingkojima5457
      @hideofreakingkojima5457 2 года назад +4

      Reminds me how this girl on tiktok claiming if you're white and eat steak, you're racist and culturally appropriating, because African Americans invented BBQ grill after they were set free from the slave owners.

    • @warlordsquerk5338
      @warlordsquerk5338 2 года назад +10

      Yeah. No rational personal would try quite that hard to find racism in something. I've never heard of the term "Boy" being linked to anything racist outside of this video. Used in the way Megatron did, it's just meant to make someone feel small and weak.

    • @CatBitchNami
      @CatBitchNami 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, this guy is clearly a hack.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 года назад +1

      @@hideofreakingkojima5457 Tiktok moment.

    • @Vibrantly_Monochromatic
      @Vibrantly_Monochromatic Год назад +1

      Kratos uses boy and so does Arthur from red dead redemption
      Boy has multiple meanings depending on the context but in the film it's purely used as showing inferiority because humans are seen as lesser and weaker beings
      (Or just a guy thing when referring to younger males in general)

  • @tmac731
    @tmac731 2 года назад +4

    0:55 I think he was suppose to meet Sentinel(with pillars) when he grabbed the all spark.

  • @ironmaster6496
    @ironmaster6496 2 года назад +1

    Megatron in TF 1 was such an IMPONENT BEAST he seemed unstoppable and scary a menacing villain, then ROTF happened.....

  • @bigroaststyrone8135
    @bigroaststyrone8135 Год назад +1

    Having a Megatron that slowly lost his drive to fight would’ve been an interesting arc over the first three movies, however it’s unfortunate that Bay chose to go in a different and ultimately less satisfying direction in Dark of The Moon after the leaks

  • @WhyTho525
    @WhyTho525 2 года назад +8

    The fact you didn't even mention Beast Wars Megatron is sad, because he is by far the most evil and most competent Megatron out of all.
    Tho he doesn't really have an impact on the Bayverse Megatron so it's understandable why you didn't mention it.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 года назад +6

      Since that takes place in the G1 timeline, he's technically a completely different character, just with the same name.

    • @SwivelAxl
      @SwivelAxl 5 месяцев назад

      Most evil? Yes.
      Most competent? No.

    • @WhyTho525
      @WhyTho525 4 месяца назад

      ​@@SwivelAxl
      Wdym he actually succeeded in taking over Cybertron

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 2 года назад +3

    Design-wise, I feel Bay's Megaron looked best in the fifth movie, with that big-ass sword 😊

  • @mc-maitrixgaming4330
    @mc-maitrixgaming4330 2 года назад +3

    It’s true that megaton’s character took a nosedive after TF4 but his design for TF5 was superior to all his other forms in the movie as he’s not just an array of spikes and scrap metal strapped together, but has actual armour plating covering his mechanical components like the autobots. Also the bot form loses like a more knightly variant of the bot form of megaton in TF Prime, one of his best designs

  • @paynt3770
    @paynt3770 2 года назад +1

    2:30 probably allready was stated but to cite the source your thinking of. One of the G1 cartoon backstories from I believe the episode Five Faces of Darkness had the desepticons being Military hardware robots who were rebeling against the autobots. And, thats why the Decepticons were tanks and planes while the Autobots made their alt forms cars and more civilion technology to hide from the massive millitary threat that was the Decepticons.

    • @paynt3770
      @paynt3770 2 года назад

      also my Vote is on Doctor who video and you better talk about Christopher and why hes the best >:(

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme 2 года назад +5

    I honestly just dislike how he's just treated like secondary character ever since the first movie. I was gonna make a video about how starscream in the MB films is not starscream (which i still am) but I also wanted to do a transformers villain rank I put him at number 3 because like I said ever since the first film he's just been sidelined Megatron is a tyrannical leader that in some incarnation sees himself as a hero he's the most iconic 80s cartoon villain and this is how you treat him?
    I grew up and love the Bayverse but they kind of screwed his character especially when they turned Galvatron back into Megatron offscreen, they had so many opportunities but never got around it.

  • @fiercelunarhavoc4627
    @fiercelunarhavoc4627 2 года назад +1

    They called each other "brother" in the films as well

  • @TheFriendshipTunnel
    @TheFriendshipTunnel 2 года назад +1

    That G1 transformers intro still hits different
    Edit: all the animated show intros are bangers

  • @Burrito_Bandito0000
    @Burrito_Bandito0000 2 года назад +7

    At least the bay verse megatron had a reason to takeover earth, To save cybertron, instead of the basic cartoon villian like g1

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 2 года назад +5

      G1 Megatron did have a reason to invade Earth:
      Drain it of its natural resources to make New energy for Cybertron and his forces

    • @eyywannn8601
      @eyywannn8601 2 года назад +3

      I’m a Bayformers fan but that’s not really a good argument. G1 Megs basically is doing the same thing.

  • @springfnafreviews7476
    @springfnafreviews7476 2 года назад +1

    I just wish it was explained how the hell galvatron reverted back to megatron

  • @hectic0620
    @hectic0620 7 месяцев назад

    I never liked transformers animated but animated Megatron was absolute perfection! My favorite megatron is actually TFP megatron. These two incarnations were pure gold!

  • @Optimus_Prime_2007
    @Optimus_Prime_2007 2 года назад +2

    Yknow I’m pretty sure he called Sam “boy” because he was…a boy. Why did we have to bring race into this?

  • @tademun7805
    @tademun7805 2 года назад +5

    I don't really get the point about Megatron calling Sam a boy being Racist, Optimus and Bumblebee have both called Sam boy too, so does that mean they are Racists too?

    • @TheUnknownGruntProductions
      @TheUnknownGruntProductions 2 года назад +2

      I believe he’s just trying to say that paired with Megatron’s other behavior, him calling Sam a boy is meant as degradation, especially since he thinks humans as inferior.

  • @HomeNuke
    @HomeNuke 2 года назад

    Make the other videos you hinted at lol. Whether it's because you're genuinely passionate about it, or if you're looking for a sign. This is it; I wanna see em.

  • @L570CK
    @L570CK 2 года назад

    3:06 is my new discord profile pic
    edit - there is no better theme to anything than G1 TF's Season 2 theme

  • @ilikepigeons6101
    @ilikepigeons6101 2 года назад +6

    If you simplify it a little. G1 megatron wants power cuz he's evil and good is bad raaar while movie megatron is a dude trying to save his entire race from the very autobots that are killing it to preserve earth

    • @silverbone4845
      @silverbone4845 2 года назад

      I kinda like your point of view of movie Megs

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 2 года назад +2

      @@silverbone4845 it's not a point of view it's a fact shown on screen. One example is the "the allspark is destroyed, and without it our race will perish"

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 2 года назад

      @@WeweGombelXD literally all of the antagonists of transformers aside from lockdown are trying to bring back home. It just makes the autobots look like cybertronian terrorists fighting for some stupid dirt planet

    • @ThyBigCheddar
      @ThyBigCheddar 2 года назад

      G1 wants to drain earth to repower Cybertron and revitalise the dying species. He's not in depth but he has a motivation.

    • @ilikepigeons6101
      @ilikepigeons6101 2 года назад

      @@ThyBigCheddar true true i forgot about his quest to succ earth dry until you realise that all his crazy inventions to make renewable energon can just be made on cybertron like that episode where he uses solar energy to make them. G1 megatron was never bright but even then he really could have just left earth to save cybertron if he truly cares

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 2 года назад +3

    They must be desperate to kill off Optimas Prime in the 1986 transformers movie....Because in the season 2 episode of transformers with the origen of Optimas Prime we know he can take megatron's giant plasma cannon to the chest and not be affected....And then in the movie a tiny laser gets him in the side and damages Optimas to the extreme

  • @everettparker1313
    @everettparker1313 2 года назад

    This was an Absolutely Amazing Video for My All Time Favorite Villain in The Transformers Franchise.
    Megatron Ranked in The Transformers Franchises.
    1: Transformers Prime
    2: Transformers G1
    3: Transformers Film Series (Mostly Due Because I Love Hugo Weaving Performance and I Love that They got The Voice of Megatron Frank Welker)
    4: Transformers The Unicron Trilogy
    5: Transformers War For Cybertron Trilogy
    6: Transformers Animated

  • @Elsinlock
    @Elsinlock 2 года назад

    I'd love for you to do some TFP essays.

  • @luiscortazar6291
    @luiscortazar6291 2 года назад +1

    Animated Megatron is my favorite

  • @christopherranson5083
    @christopherranson5083 2 года назад +2

    Megatron called Sam boy because In the film sam was a boy, had nothing to do with racism in anyway shape or form.

  • @hardasphuk7633
    @hardasphuk7633 2 года назад +1

    The transformers decipticons ds game story shouldve been what the first movie was about

  • @johnprime1147
    @johnprime1147 7 месяцев назад

    Animated Megatron: Wanted to reclaim Cybertron for the Decepticon cause and maybe if the show continued we could have seen him moving away from just that idea. We started seeing it at the end of season 3. But maybe he could have begun to tocue on Optimus more. Maybe a new war starts and things could have escalated from there.
    Bay Megatron: Shown to be scary but died way too many times. Or just straight up lost like a bitch. Yes the main villain can lose against the hero. But maybe let him win. Or at least retreat with it being more of a tie. Then age of extinction told us of a idea but backtracked in the final movie
    G1 Megatron: He is what you'd call evil. He may have lost but he kept going at Optimus. Yes the show was corny but it still gave us a Megatron who was just evil at heart.
    Armada Megatron: A War that just became more about Megatron and Optimus. That's how things ended up. Megatron started relying upon Optimus which leads to them respecting each other but fighting in the end.
    RID Megatron: I don't remember much about this Megatron sadly. But i got a autograph of the Optimus Prime Voice actor of the show
    IDW Megatron: Turned to War for his cayse. But overtime things changed. Morals changed. And you start to forget who you are anymore. And in the end. Was it worth it?The thousands dead in front of him. And in the end he switches sides and he wonders if all the lives he took or not just he took. But the lives that fought for him was all wasted.
    Spark Megatron: No clue about him. I've just heard he does the same thing as IDW Megatron but very VERY early.
    Prime Megatron: A pettiness he took and brought war. This eventually once again like IDW Megatron changed him. And over the course of the series just seems like he'll never change. Until he dies and finally changes. And gives everything up and i wish it was followed up on.
    Cyberverse Megatron: I mostly know he's more of the generic Megatron. But i never finished the show. So all i know is that he's VERY generic. More than G1 Megatron.
    Cybertron Megatron: His pettiness starts the war and he even poisons Cybertron to finally end the Autobots. But it only backfires and destroys Cybertron. With that he blames Optimus for EVERYTHING he does. The murder, the poisoning Cybertron’s core, the torture, the constant warfare. He blames all of his own crimes onto Optimus. In the end he nearly dies. But he's brought back thanks to Soundwave and is ONLY ready for revenge against Optimus. Following him to the stars they leave Cybertron to never return. Right?

  • @dragoniccrab
    @dragoniccrab 2 года назад

    I think I just realised that in Animated Sentinel and Optimus sound damn close to the Customizable Character in the 07 Transformers DS Game... at least the clip at 8:22... might just be me tho

  • @jdizzy5044
    @jdizzy5044 2 года назад +2

    The thing is megatron didn’t say he wanted to transform earths technology that was the autobots

    • @Achieme
      @Achieme 2 года назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing when cinema sins asked how was he gonna be able to do that 1000 years ago. His main objective was retrieving the Allsparks, and ratchet said "if the Decepticons find the Allsparks" because the Decepticons were already on earth

  • @andyp2004
    @andyp2004 2 года назад

    the decepticons being warriors is a G1 thing

  • @m488thunderbird3
    @m488thunderbird3 2 года назад

    Do you know about the Piller Men theme because if you are a JoJo fan how would it sound for any of the Megatron scenes also have you seen the MLP and Transformers crossover Friendship in Disguise.

  • @ajgunter8932
    @ajgunter8932 2 года назад

    Michael Bay had no concept of how to make a movie plot. All he's good at is special effects.

  • @TheAncientPrime
    @TheAncientPrime 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @lorschat496
    @lorschat496 2 года назад

    Megatron in the movie scared me when I was a kid.

  • @mryeetproductions
    @mryeetproductions 2 года назад

    Megatron in the movies was so soft but he looked so cool. :(

  • @wolflord8117
    @wolflord8117 2 года назад +1

    Please do gears of war next

  • @TheZamaron
    @TheZamaron 2 года назад +2

    You criticize the plot in the first few minutes of the video about everything happening to Earth, and I think you're looking at it wrong. A good way to look at it is that in most TF universe the Cybertronians are fated to come to Earth, whether searching for resources, an object arriving here, or something more ancient like Unicron. For the movies Earth being Unicron I think lends credence to this idea. Loo at it this way, we know Primus exists as Cybertron, Whatever the origins for the Cybertronians, I thin Primus guided their creation like in most fiction to be a ready army to face Unicron if he ever awakens. We could say maybe the Creators used the Seeds on Earth as it being Unicron might mean materials on Earth were prefect for making Transformium, thus they collected it, and Primus used the Allspark to create the Primes, they explored and arrived on Earth, the IDW movie comics seem to suggest the Allspark told the Fallen to destroy Earth, it could be Primus telling him this, eventually the Primes fell, Quintessa might have ruled CYbertron for some reason at some point, the Knights stole her staff and arrived on Earth, AKA Unicron. Megatron finds the Fallen and is probably told of the Star Harvester, the war breaks out, Cybertron is devastated, and I believe Sentinel and Megatron figure out a plan to find the Star Harvester and activate it, this would in turn serve the Fallen's goals, Thus I think Sentinel was sort of a pawn. Thus he tries to go to Earth but a missal damages the Ark, and according to extra material the Space Bridge activated, sending the ship randomly jumping through space, eventually arriving near it's intended destination, but on the Moon. When the Autobots launch the Allspark into space I think it purposefully landed on Earth because it was Unicron. SO far every thing makes sens why it's on Earth, because Earth is Unicron, much like how in Prime a tone of things also happen on Earth. It's simply Megatron carryng out his master's plan, find the Harvester, activate it, restore Cybertron, maybe kill Unicron. But as we see his plan needs to be altered, first the Allspark is destroyed and it's simply use the Harvester to make more Energon for the hatchlings, and bonus of Humanity's extinction. Then Megatron plans to use Sentinel's Space Bridge to bring Cybertron to Earth and strip it's resources to rebuild, then with Last Knight it makes sense to ally with Quintessa as she claims she can drain Unicron of his energy to restore Cybertron. Of course Megs would agree. His whole character arc has been him wanting to strengthen CYbertron, first through conquest, but when the war devastates their home, his focus is on restoring Cybertron, no matter what.

  • @neogamer3383
    @neogamer3383 2 года назад

    People don’t understand that every transformers media doesn’t need to be a 1/1 g1 recreation it’s ok for them to branch off and do something new

  • @notnoodle1918
    @notnoodle1918 2 года назад

    Tfp Megatron got exactly 3 seconds lmao

  • @Tijaxtolan
    @Tijaxtolan 2 года назад +2

    bro, I still hate how Megatron was killed in DOTM, he could easily win against Optimus, even after the first axe hit, but writters decided otherwise, even defeating Optimus but then being killed by the rest of the autobots would've been better

    • @cubeddoubled1543
      @cubeddoubled1543 2 года назад +2

      Tbf DOTM Megatron is basically a cripple in all but name so Prime merking him was unsurprising, just disappointing

    • @openingshift7070
      @openingshift7070 2 года назад +3

      @@cubeddoubled1543 The top decepticons (Soundwave, Starscream, Megatron etc.) were nowhere near as good or intimidating as they were in the 1st 2 movies. Megatron got weaker overtime and so did Starscream

  • @icon_godey
    @icon_godey 2 года назад

    Good video

  • @tuckmasterg
    @tuckmasterg 2 года назад

    Bayverse 1 Megatron is a true Megatron
    He's not a menace
    He's THE menace
    In rotf we see him taking time to lick his wounds and the Fallen is his mentor
    As for why his plan change from raising a new army to just blowing up the sun
    Probably it's the Fallen plan and megs has an ulterior motive
    Dotm we see an old warlord just wanting to go home but want to go home with a bang and honestly have no idea what they were doing with Sentinel
    A Prime gone rouge was nice but I feel like it was executed semi-poorly
    Aoe is just tf1 with new paint I have no fucking clue why they did galvatron just to go back to Megatron
    TLK is dotm but he's accepted his failures and just wants to get home
    Animated is honestly tf1 but done better
    He's is the menace even in death and arguably the best tactician and leader
    G1 is well g1
    Nostalgic while being the Megatron we know and love
    Wfc/foc is the brutal warlord that screams I AM MEGATRON AND YOU'RE SCRAP while being a brilliant tactician
    Tfp is the best part of every Megatron which is why he's easily the best version
    He put fear in Prime even while dead
    Sorry for the long essay

  • @fiercelunarhavoc4627
    @fiercelunarhavoc4627 2 года назад

    Optimus also calls Sam "boy"

  • @K1ng_Squ1dZ
    @K1ng_Squ1dZ 2 года назад

    I'm new subscriber

  • @zelo3238
    @zelo3238 2 года назад

    decepticons in the 1986 movie wipe out almost the entire original character list of autobots. Bayformers decepticons are cupcakes.

  • @epicbruhmoment6985
    @epicbruhmoment6985 2 года назад +2

    You need to structure your videos a little better they're enjoyable but the way you tumbled in at the beginning was confusing and disjointed everything else was good though

  • @alekgamer0320
    @alekgamer0320 2 года назад

    Cyclops3050 are you G.I. Joe fan?

  • @lify5505
    @lify5505 2 года назад

    I liked the first three bay films, but after that it just turned to town fuckery

  • @raatz1
    @raatz1 2 года назад

    Prime was the best Version of the Transformers and every Bot

  • @soundwavetheminiconcarrier
    @soundwavetheminiconcarrier 2 года назад

    Why can’t Megatron just have one alt mode!

  • @ulty1472
    @ulty1472 2 года назад +1

    10:50 and this is where i disagree

  • @legendarywarrior97238
    @legendarywarrior97238 2 года назад

    Why the word "bay" or "bayformers" have to exist , the movies are a different continuity and not bay!! ( just a tf cinematic )

  • @theprophet9656
    @theprophet9656 2 года назад

    Ooooo better mic this time bet

  • @jairogonzalez5323
    @jairogonzalez5323 2 года назад

    Guy talks about transformers
    His views: 📈📈📈

  • @ForTheFREEMAN
    @ForTheFREEMAN 2 года назад

    give me more transformers

  • @ulty1472
    @ulty1472 2 года назад

    BRO YOU NEED TO WATCH ARMADA

  • @BraveBladeProductions
    @BraveBladeProductions 2 года назад

    To be fair, character development and consistency was never a strong point of the Michael Bay Transformers films...

  • @LAV-III
    @LAV-III 2 года назад

    “Give me the cube boy” 👴🏻

  • @Cre8Lounge
    @Cre8Lounge 2 года назад

    but he had teeth.

  • @kevinberry8832
    @kevinberry8832 2 года назад

    Best Megatron is IDW Megatron

  • @itsuki2877
    @itsuki2877 2 года назад

    I disagree, michael bays trainsformers is the best! comparfe him from tf1 to tf4??? there the same!!!!

  • @khalilnery
    @khalilnery 2 года назад

    Khagaton

  • @darnelhays7999
    @darnelhays7999 2 года назад

    Geears

  • @scottcockton
    @scottcockton 2 года назад

    The last knight megatron what a waste of potential and is probably one the worst things I know there people who like it but the last knight is a horrible movie which sucks because I loved age of extinction

  • @EXT0RT98
    @EXT0RT98 2 года назад

    🙄screw this vid

  • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
    @MogusMasterSaikawa22 Год назад

    can you stop the garbage all of you megatron was not a good villain in transformers 1. he was an atrocious villain.
    you claim he's shown to be menacing.. by killing a helpless cybertronian crawling away? the first thing we learn about him is that he crash landed. wow how competent. great first thing to show us. and that he was looking for the allspark which was in usa and yet he managed to crash in the arctic circle. also the allspark emits so much radiation it needs 4 football fields to hide it's signature yet megatron landed half the world apart. okay. and future movies make it worse since as far as I remember megatron is the only character to ever crash land.
    we then find out he's been frozen in the humans basement how intimidating. and he's the only reasons humans have the technology to defeat transformers. what a joke.
    he's horribly contextualized in the movie.
    then when he actually wakes up the first thing he does is yell at starscream... who just destroyed the humans method of manually refreezing megatron. wow. totally doesn't make megatron look like a child. and he yells at starscream calling him a failure for not pursuing the allspark.. when he's just as capable of doing so and arrives late in the city and I could swear megatron is supposed to be the leader of the decepticons. I guess not.
    when he arrives to the city he could have beat all the autobots but no grabs the smallest one who's smaller than a baby next to him and flies off fleeing. he doesn't give any guidance to his dececpticons who besides starscream are going around slicing apart cars or being useless, and he doesn't grab the allspark when he can. he's a pathetic dumb villain a horrible leader and sucks trash

  • @thomasmccarthy6259
    @thomasmccarthy6259 2 года назад

    Can't stand to listen to you with all of your cursing! It makes you sound unintelligent!

  • @apollyon24789
    @apollyon24789 Год назад

    wa ga ba oo ah nah wah

  • @gearybell
    @gearybell 2 года назад

    i love Megatron from transformers series