Oscar: ambrousus make a separate body for me and Ozpin Ambrousus: alright *Snap* Ruby: wow oscar you got your body back what are you going to do now? Oscar: ... im going home
honestly it would be interesting to see if any secret failsafe's or rules exist for the relic spirits or whatever their called to prevent people like oz or salem from making a workaround to their curses
Honestly, I wouldn't blame him! He was literally forced into the story, he didn't even want to get involved! I know a lot of people hate him, but honestly I just feel sorry for the boy.
@@laraprisma6381 funny thing, I remember reading oneshot/1ch fanfic, right after V3. That ozpin soul went into Jaune (alternately, they were both in the vault when it collapsed, jaune woke up with his hair white with Ozpins voice in his head.) but operated on the same idea of, going to someone of like mindedness/goal. And really, To em that made sense, it’d give Jaune room to grow as well as his conflict of feelings with his hate/distrust in ozpin. So they don’t have to bring in a new character (ahgain…)
Volume 2 class scene with Blake correctly giving the answer that Faunas have great night vision, further confirmed with Blake shooting out the lights to get an advantage over Torch wick when escaping the fuanas rally. They've got great night vision@@skyslasher2297
@@BlizzardofDreamsshe does say that but I don't think it was ever specified that the night vision was a thing that all Faunus have. I think they meant that faunus had the night vision on their side, but only specific Faunus, like cats.
i could actually see this??? i had a friend with super light blonde hair and she started dyeing her eyebrows by the time she was like 11 bc it looked like she had no eyebrows
Theory: Adam isn’t dead. He washed up in a village, forgot his memory, decided to start a new life, and teaches guitar lessons every Friday for the local faunus orphans. Yes this is a valid theory and no I’m not consuming an unhealthy amount of copium YOU ARE!!!
Apart of that is that Monty has one(1) design philosophy for Red characters and it shows, Ruby, Raven, & Adam are all very similar and the only thing they actually have in common is a Red & Black color scheme. Also that RWBY has a massive same face syndrome problem too
@@calicomarker though I'm sure their color scheme has a LOT to do with this theory, there's also the fact that they both use a katana-adjacent weapon that is primarily red but also has dust in it, and that they both have a mask meant to look like a grimm
My headcanon is that Salem actually never met Summer and has been playing pretend all along. I just find it weirdly funny. Yang: "You killed my mom! Summer Rose!" Salem: "Oh, so *that's* her name. Thank you, dear. That will make it much easier to manipulate your sister in the future. Now I just need to think of a good story where I destroyed this....Equinox Tulip? No, right. Summer Rose." Yang: "What?! But I thought you killed her!" Salem: "Killed her?! I never even met the woman! If Ruby had asked me even a single question through the Seer, like how her mother died, then my entire plan to break the silver eyed nuisance would have been trashed." Yang: "But...." Salem: "I lied. That's what I do. Has nobody ever taught you girls to not trust strangers? Oh, right. No mother."
Making Emerald the new Fall Maiden would’ve been a great story direction. Most would agree that Cinder has overstayed her welcome, so her death at the hands of Raven would’ve been a fitting and ironic send-off for her, while Emerald becoming her successor would push her character into an interesting new direction, without redeeming her right away.
I disagree with killing off Cinder, while her writing has been lackluster she’s an essential secondary character acting as an important antagonist. For while Salem is the big bad villainess, she’s also rather distanced from the main quartet, a Ocus on his throne if you will. While Cinder is someone team RWBY better acquainted with, having orchestrated the attack on Beacon and the death of Pyrrha. In essence she’s much more of a personal enemy of our heroines and more engaging than any other bad guy in the series.
@@Nephilim1717 While she does represent a more personal enemy in theory, she hasn't really been used that way. She's still always doing things in the background, away from the main characters. She only shows up suddenly and unexpectedly, and her primary interaction with the team is just a straight-up fight. She doesn't feel like some kind of personal nemesis to RWBY. She doesn't feel like she's a foil for Ruby or anyone else on the team. To Cinder, Ruby is a significant part of her motivation. To Ruby, Cinder is a random boss fight that happens every now and then. There is *potential* for her to be more connected to RWBY, that potential is never realized in the story itself.
the hound having a silver eyed warrior inside of them feels like a parallel to the story of little red riding hood making Rudy red riding hood, Summer red's grandma and the hound the big bad wolf
Here's a fun set of theories that I'm not sure have been discussed: What stopped the bomb from falling at the end of Vol. 8? Theory 1: The most obvious reading is that Clover's medal causes his good luck to come through one more time... somehow? Theory 2: The bomb not falling was actually an act of Qrow's bad luck. Qrow's semblance is said to be proximity-based, and the bomb not falling did save Mantle, it also put everyone nearby in immediate danger. Theory 3: IMO the most interesting possibility; Qrow's semblance isn't actually misfortune, but a more broad _luck manipulation._ It's just because he always negative and always expects the worst that the worst always happens, but in a moment when he desperately wants something to go _right,_ it does.
can we accept a possible all three? Clover coming through and saving his friends one final time, Qrow's luck/misfortune, and his possible growth into luck manipulation?
@@notquiteallisonlike qrow somehow inherits clovers good luck semblance combining it with his bad luck semblance to give him the ability to manipulate all luck?
I didn't know the ozma kids reincarnated was debunked. I really enjoyed the idea that Oz, Salem, and those girls were dealing with immortality in different ways.
It's still possible that they were reborn as the maidens and Oz didn't know it, or that they were reborn as other characters in the series and we'll find out later. I could see a reveal like that being a part of the solution to the Salem problem.
5:15 It has been said that Faunus have better night vision than Humans. Though this scene is by far the worst in the entire show, in terms of plot holes & contrivences. Off the top of my head we have: >Nobody in the crowd using scrolls as light sources or even a flash light >There being no Faunus who can see in the dark nor anyone with a light emitting semblence to use (or even Marrow's STAY) >Watts being able to hack the Penny's eyes (but not the rest of her) to remove Tyrian from her vision (somehow) but also not be able to hack the rest of her to do his bidding at this moment >Penny's green glowy lights not playing a role >When the lights come back on everyone assumes it was Penny because she stood in the centre of the stage around the dead bodies, because she was lured there >Nobody realises Penny's swords have no blood on them, nor do they realise that if Penny was the culprit that she didn't hide it very well, if she is still standing in the centre of the room (Ironwood's robot + mob panick = guilty enough) >People assuming the election was hacked because Jacque one but not that the attack would have been unnecessary and only drew attention to it and make the whole thing super suspicious
Now I want Emerald to befriend the Summer maiden and become a maiden that way. The angst and potential character moments when Cinder comes after her and proves without a doubt she does NOT give a damn about Em to her face.
Literally all they have to do is grab a leaf that like stuck to their clothes in the ever after and just force feed her that. Or better yet blow her up and just instantly shove it in her stomach Mortal Kombat fatality style.
I fully believed the Ozpin's daughters maiden theory because he had his children *after* he reincarnated, so his reincarnation, and Salem's undying nature created a sustainable magic that transfers. It's possible Ozpin doesn't know for certain these are his daughters, but to lose 4 magical daughters and then see 4 magical girls pop up it's only natural to assume it was his or Salems magic. Giving 4 random girls powers does kind of line up with him doing things like turning 2 students into birds though It's possible that he gave up almost all his magic, but why is their magic seemingly endless? maybe it is finite and we havent seen it. We'll never know unless RT confirms. Rooster teeth isn't that subtle though, I feel like we wouldn't have been shown 4 color coded daughters if it wasn't supposed to be the maidens.
As someone who didn't watch volume 9, I am uniquely unqualified to talk on the latest theories. That being said, my favorite theory I knew the writers would never do was to pull a Wizard of Oz and have all the characters in Wonderland be mirror images of the characters who have died, with Penny being the white rabbit, Pyrrha being the Red Queen, Torchwick being the Mad Hatter, Watts being the March Hare, Tyrian or Adam being the Cheshire Cat, Ironwood being the Red Queen's executioner, etc. I just think it would have been more interesting to have characters we already knew back, rather than bringing in a whole bunch of new ones while we have RWBY+Neo+Jaune deal with a new place.
YES, Tyrion, YES... Moar disabled villains! MOAR! (I just have Russell T Davies' now infamous words echoing in my head as you said about him being blind, and I find that hilarious - btw, as a former actor, villains are some of the most fun roles that you can play, and so the idea of denying disabled people the opportunity for "representation" on such ludicrous grounds is frankly repugnant, yet Davies is so absolutely fanatical about it; yeah, I'm sure everyone totally looks at Davros and is like: wow, all people in wheelchairs are evil genocidal mutants). Neo is conceptually epic. And it actually makes a lot of sense for that scene if Tyrion was blind. The punch from Qrow doesn't feel like it would work, but if Tyrion expected the blade to be wielded in that moment and misjudged it as a result, plus the overly drawn out walk, it would go a long way to fixing the only real flaws in that fight. It's also possible that they originally intended for him to be partly blind, and they forgot about it.
I thought Tyrian let Qrow walk past because letting Qrow get his sword would make the fight more "fun" for him, and that's a bigger priority than just immediately winning for him. I mean, a lot of the other scenes (like him picking off single people in atlas) he kinda likes to play with his food.
It's not stated clearly in the show, but I personally believe that finding all the relics and bringing the god brothers back is Salem's final try of suicide. Because the gods will surely not spare this world. And if nothing can kill her, maybe wiping the whole world would bring her peace. And adding to that, if we want to connect the main plot with volume 9's shananigans, Salem could possibly ascend if told that she would lose immortality and could finally die. A bittersweet ending, quite on brand with the show.
jaune being related to salem is actually really interesting but i would only really entertain the idea if jaune/JNPR were the protagonists instead of ruby and her team
It would help loop things back around to his inspiration. Joan of Arc was burned by the Cardinal of Winchester for "witchcraft". Considering Salem is the Wicked Witch of the West - if Juane is related to her - they could play it as Jaune, descendant of the wicked witch in history, gets burned to death *by* said witch in a Salem Witch Trials sort of deal during the final battle, just after he helps lead humanity to victory over the Grimm. Or do literally anything regarding that. Seriously, they haven't really done anything with his fairy tale inspiration since Volume 1.
I thought, back in v7 when Oz was being moody, that the squad would use the aura transfer machine and penny’s synthetic life form that can produce an aura tech to pull Oz out of Oscar and give him a robot body
... Now every time I see a clip of Tyrian, I see more credit to this theory. Even in the very same setting as the Qrow fight, when his tail is revealed in the fight vs. RNJR, his "Surprise..." doesn't even have him looking at the opponent he's blocking. He looks like he's zoned out on the delivery itself. Damn, kinda would have loved Blind Tyrian.
Ngl I was really onbaord with the "Salem Ascends theory" until you pointed out why it wouldn't work. I think team RWBY would have to do some heavy talk no jutsu to pull it off. Or they could tell her ascension is a way she could turn into something that could die and she can finally find peace. On a side note, who do you think the summer maiden will be? There are a lot of theories about it that I thought would be featured in the video
I really wish the Summer Maiden isn't anyone in the show already. The three Maidens that we currently know of at the beginning of the show were: 1. injured and power stolen by Cinder, 2. Rogue Bandit Queen, and 3. Elderly and retired. It would be really interesting if The Summer Maiden was similar to how Amber was; active and helping around Sanus.
The tree tells Ruby that "nothing can happen to you here that you don't want to happen" so even if they somehow force-fed salem some loose-leaf ever after tea, if she doesnt want to ascend into something the heroes can kill, she won't. I know ospin says she craves death, but it also seems like she really hates ozpin, so I kinda don’t think she'd be willing to find peace and die unless he was going down with her
My moneys on Velvet. We’ve seen a Human Maiden (Raven, and granted now Winter), Grimm Maiden (Cinder) and a robot maiden (Penny). The show likes to do things in 4s, so all that’s left is a Fanus. I made a full comment and someone mentioned it could be Suns cousin Starr from Before the Dawn, which I really like as well. Still, Velvet best girl
Imo the only way to break the curse of Salem’s immortality, as stated by the gods, is to have her understand the importance of death, which I don’t see happening via ascension.
is it just me or do i think the summer maiden will be summer herself like she's been this figure thats been teased the entire show and like in vacuo all of ruby and yangs family will be there since raven might coming back due to the rtx teaser
I’ve always theorized that the Summer maiden is gonna be a Fanus (my moneys on Velvet) We’ve seen a Human maiden (Raven), Grimm maiden (Cinder) and a robot Maiden (Penny). RWBY likes to do things in 4s, so all that leaves is a Fanus Maiden.
@@scrambledEgg69 many have theorized that Sun's cousin in Vacuo who is briefly mentioned in "Before the Dawn" could be a possible candidate. Her name is Starr Sanzang.
i know I'm 3 months late to this comment, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the original plan was for Summer to have been the Summer Maiden, but then when she died that actually passed her magic on to Ruby since who else would she be thinking about most in that moment if not her own daughter. Then they'd have this big reveal of Ruby having been a Maiden all along in some pivotal moment where she unintentionally uses magic when they're about to lose a big fight (or something lame, like Ozpin just revealing it when they get to the last vault) or something like that.
I do like the idea of Salem ascending, and like you said in the video, team rwby would have to go through a lot of hoops to get her there. But what if, she willingly goes? She ascends into a mortal form so she can finally die, it's what she wanted before she fell into the pool of grimm
I mean considering Salem wants to die, you could just… tell her about it. Ozpin made the vaults where those objects reside, so it stands to reason Salem might be able to crack into the same power. She could fall through the world on purpose. Alternatively, once our team has all four maiden powers, reassembling Ozma’s full power, they could work together to open a portal that sends her through.
i kinda want the blacksmith to show up at the end and be like 'hey kids, time to stop being evil overlords and remove the curse you stuck on ozma and salem, the whole reason I made ascending a thing is because immortality is the peak of all cruelty ' and the brothers have to fix everything because they made the mess and i dont see how anyone else is going to be able to
As expected, another fantastic video. A few fun theories, some I believe in, with a couple micro-headcanons mixed in. Your interpretation of the Maiden Tale is very plausible and neat. The icing on the cake is the Ozma Ascension Theory. Splitting the souls of Ozma and Oscar would be genius. It would give Team RWBY another powerful member to their team, add drama with Salem, and tidy up a certain little ship. However, there would be a ticking clock when trying this since Ozma's and Oscar's souls would eventually merge into one. Given the indeterminate time between Atlas' fall and the end of Vol. 9, it might be too late. Thank you and have a lovely day. P.s. (Okay, a little rant. I apologize in advance.) It is just me and only me, but I always get irked when people say Aura Amp is Jaune's Semblance. The man didn't even unlock his Aura before Vo. 1 and people are saying he discovered it within a year/ year-and-a-half? The earliest possible showing of it would've been during the Jaundice Arc when Cardin was about to punch him. His Aura pulsed and blanked out the screen, leaving Cardin with a hurt hand and a ringing in the air. I am under the belief that during this instance and all the others, Jaune isn't using a Semblance, he is just utilizing the vast stores of Aura that Pyrrha mentioned. Think about it: Ren used Storm Flower and his Aura during his King Taijitu Fight, blocking the fangs with Aura Pulses, Not a Semblance. A fighter's weapons and clothing don't get damaged in a fight, why? Because it was confirmed that Aura protects all of them in battle, Not a Semblance. Jaune has shown to be capable of these feats and more. If Aura can protect a weapon/ armor passively, why can't it be expanded to be shared with another person? Heck, Pyrrha shared her own Aura to unlock Jaune's, so let Jaune share his own. Yes, the wiki explains he is sharing his Aura through Aura Amp, but it also says he boosts his own Aura with his Semblance. Aura -> Semblance -> Aura -> Semblance... Simple conservation of energy debunks this. Conclusion: Jaune doesn't have a Semblance!!!! Related note: Please CRWBY, expand upon Aura some more. It has the potential to be something great, better than a "Forcefield" and Semblance fuel. Let characters use Aura Slashes and Aura Pulses, let them share their Aura to help teammates recover in a fight. Don't let Shion be the only Nightmare Hunter in Remnant, create a profession of characters that use their Aura in the same capacity. Yes, Shion's Semblance helps them in Ice Queendom, but that's what makes them a cut above the other Nightmare Hunters, not the only one. Also expand on Shion's string Glyph, saying that it is the natural path Aura follows or the like. Aura is shown to control projectiles/ string, so give Nora back her Rocket Heart and Mercury his Bullet-nado. And since you love Bumblebee so much, let someone teach them how to "merge their Auras" and give them a kid, no adoption or Donor (probably Sun) required. So much potential and the perfect person on the cast to showcase what Aura can really do. Don't give Jaune a Semblance, let him show people what power they already possess. Sorry again for bloating up this comment, I just wanted to get it off my chest. Thank you again and have a wonderful day.
According to the novels, while rare, it IS possible to unlock a semblance BEFORE unlocking their Aura, the most extreme case being Gillian Asturias, who unlocked her semblance while still in the womb, it is also possible for the semblance to already be unlocked but undiscovered, Nora probably would have never found out what her semblance was if she hadn't been struck by lightning at some point.
@@narutorasbat I forgot about Gillian. The possibility of a Semblance developing without the person's knowledge does add a spanner into the works. I guess I got caught up in the grandeur of my ideas. All I want is a little more variety in the core cast. Everyone has a Semblance, but only Blake and Ren have shown skills outside of weapons and Semblances. Why can't Jaune join them and show how far the abilities can go. Thank you for the response.
Personally, since the end of Volume 9, I’ve thought that there was a bunch of evidence as to how Salem will be defeated at the end of the show. My theory is that using the Silver Eyes and some of the Maiden magic could somehow bypass Salem’s immortality and kill her. That whole scene in Volume 9 where Raven and Summer are talking about going on that secret mission, feels like it has to be connected to Salem. We also still don’t know who made the first wish on the Lamp, but considering how Raven would be the only one who had access to the Lamp’s vault implies that she learned some special knowledge that we didn’t learn from the Volume 6 Salem/Ozma backstory. It feels weird how confident Raven is in the Volume 9 compared to her in the modern day, the whole “There is no defeating Salem!” thing. Also, the fact that Salem went from “Send assassins to deal with Silver Eyed people” to “Transform Silver Eyed people into Grimm hounds.” implies that something happened with Salem that made her realize how dangerous Silver Eyed people are. Essentially I think that Raven and Summer went to try and kill Salem over in the Grimmlands, and almost succeeded. However, Salem, absolutely furious at being on death’s door, retaliated and threw Summer into one of the Grimm pools. Raven retreated and Summer, through her Silver Eyed powers, managed to resist being destroyed by the Grimm pool, but ended up becoming the first Grimm hound. What do you all think about it?
Absolutely not, traditionally speaking, god curses are almost to entirely impossible to finagle around, ESPECIALLY if the whole point of the curse is to be an aesop or moral lesson to the cursed, silver eyes and heavy magic MIGHT be able to maybe petrify her for a good while but when a god CURSES you with immortality, typically speaking, you’re going to be pretty freakin immortal until you learn your lesson.
Alternatively, the Silver Eyes can just de-Grimmify her, making her sane enough to "understand the importance of death" and therefore lose power over the Grimm and be killable. Salem is our Wicked Witch of the West and Summer seems to have been our Dorothy - but things didn't go so well for her even with her Silver Eyes/Slippers (the Ruby Slippers were Silver in the books), so now it's up to our new Dorothy in Ruby to go there with RUBY Slippers to de-Grimmify her with that same eye magic. It's unclear whether or not Raven was the Spring Maiden yet, but Raven was most definitely the backup/transportation. Raven is a strong fighter with or without magic, but her portal can get them tf out of there and back to the Rose residence in Patch if things go south (which they obviously did, leaving Raven to probably leave Summer for dead).
I did not know that Winter bleaching her hair was a Theory, but I did come here to talk about something interesting I did with the Schnees cause I was tired of them looking like Copy & Pasted versions of Weiss over and over again. In my redesigns and rewrites, Willow Schnee, Weiss Schnee, & Nicholas Schnee(not that I give a shit about him) are the only Schnees have true genetic White Hair, Jacques obviously has Black hair that he was bleaching before his old age eventually whitened out, and Winter & Whitley both have black hair, but because Jacques is so transfixed on the idea of the “Perfect Schnee Image” he is/was forcibly bleaching their hair, still bleaches Whitley’s hair as Whitley is still young and hasn’t expressed the same desire to leave Weiss & Winter have, whilst Winter has allowed her Black hair to grow normally, no longer under Jacque’s control.
I have a theory. Jacques has secretly helped the White Fang. Before Blake revealed her Faunus heritage, Weiss mentioned that she lost friends and family to the White Fang. If Willow had siblings, they would have a better claim to the SDC as Jacques married into the Schnees. So he leaked where they are and what guards they have to the White Fang and they got the drop on them. This allows Jacques to takeover the SDC with no one to stop him and the White Fang's reign of terror gives Jacques a way to use fear to make more oppressive Faunus labor laws. Sienna wouldn't know about it as Jacques could leak the information anonymously. Edit: I rewatch the Adam short and it showed the White Fang leaving a SDC facility without any Dust so that could've been a assassination job and they were escaping after doing it.
cool thoughts but I don't think it works with the timeline. -Sienna only began as high leader likely around Blake's adolescence. Since Jacques married Willow at a point many of us guess to be 4-6 years previous to Wiess/Blake's birth [Because Winter is likely around that much older], he didn't get the company until around that time. I believe it may have been mentioned that Willow was Nicholas's oldest daughter, and perhaps she just had the most claim to the company as the oldest because of that. I do like to believe Jacques leaked information to get things he wanted, but I also can't see these motivations regarding getting his place as head of the company to be likely.
I've had a theory since Djin was first used that Salem can actually be killed or at least defeated in a permanent or semi permanent way. The reasons why I still believe this are: 1: When Ozcar/Ozma asked Djin if Salem could be defeated he was alone so the "YOU can't" could be interpreted as Ozma can't since the You in English can be singular or plural. 2: When Djin said "you can't" referring to beating Salem she was actually retelling Ozmas story in the past, not telling the future. 3: If Salem is unbeatable why is she so scare about silver eyed people to the point of hunting them to near extinction and breaking their spirits? So my theory is that even if she can't be killed by silver eyed people, she can be petrified like the giant dragon from the fall of Beacon defeating her, and the reason why Ozma can't defeat her is either because of their shared history or because he can't reincarnate into a silver eyed person.
@@humanintelegence Tyrian, like, murders people, seemingly just for fun? I don't think he would care. That said, it would be kind of cringe. Making your evil serial killer gay and doing weird passes at the seemingly straight male protagonist is so cringe.
I thought what if tyrain maybe was in Battle with Jaune dad or something and maybe even jaune dad was the one who put him in prison and maybe tyrain wanted revenge or something I don’t know just a lazy through
Having Salem ascend and thereby resolving the plot has one advantage: it requires the *least* time. RT is not... financially healthy. Even if RWBY gets a V10, there's every chance that this would be the absolute *last* volume of RWBY. If the creators realize that, then it would be good if they could wrap the plot up somehow. Find a way to yank Salem into the Ever After and have her ascend, and then the story's over. Oscar/Ozpin could handle that while Team RWBY and Cinder have some kind of final battle to tie things up, and that's it. This would be the most efficient way of tying everything up in one season.
Maybe they just shoot her out of cannon into the Ever After. No matter what destruction she causes, no one there will die off due to her actions. The tree makes the afteran's stronger and stronger as they progress and adapt to her actions. Eventually, she see's that they come back just as she does, but stronger. So she ascends in an effort to get strong. Tree says "Nah." and remakes her to be exactly who she needs to be in order to see the errors of her ways. Boom story ends.
When Yang first got her arm cut off, I remember reading a theory that she was going to regrow it in the next season. The argument was that a dragon (Taiyang) + a bird (Raven) = a phoenix (Yang) so Yang would have regenerative powers.
I predict that there's going to be some big reveal about Salem and Ozma's daughters that ends up being part of what causes Salem to have a change of heart. Either one or more of them survived that tragic night and Salem has descendants on Remnant she doesn't know about, or her daughters have been reborn as other characters on Remnant. She will go to the tree, and the heroes will end up getting the relics back. Ruby may even guide Salem to the tree and be found by Somewhat. I think Cinder will be dead by the time all of this happens.
Headcanon idea: the original springs maiden was one of the arc sisters, who ran away and caught by Raven. I’d like to think that was an idea till they changed their mind and wrote themselves to make Raven the Spring Maiden, not acknowledging who’s the original maiden.
My old point of annoyance was them not taking the leaves with them out of Not-Wonderland. How the burning of the leaves works is that you must work out your issues or be stuck in it... Unless something blows it away or removes the person from being in it. Salem is immortal until the planet is gone or she works out her issues. That was literally the item needed to solve that issue and since they are not affected by the mist due to plot... Claiming to have worked out their issues... You could literally hold Salem in the mist as she struggles with facing her issues. They had a literal in cannon method for beating her and ignored it! That is why people call it the filler arc!
i find it so weird that some people make their maiden eye flames different colour than the eyes but the show has proved it over and over that the flames match the eyes, pennys green flames and ravens red flames match their eyes
In some AU where rwby is rewritten and the idea of maidens goes through some changes, it would be cool to see not just one maiden being Jaune's sister, but also that the reason Jaune comes from a "long line of heroes" (said somewhere in early season 1) is because one of the maidens powers have been kept in his family and passed down through the generations. This would put greater emphasis on why Jaune feels he has a legacy to live up to, and would justify his unnaturally high aura output.
Theory that I had but was instantly shattered was that the everafter existed so the girls could learn "Magic" something more than semblances and the maiden's basic elemental stuff. Like this land still had magic and powers that just being IN the everafter would rub off on them. That way they could fight salem and her serious but basic elemental magic with something more wacky and emotion driven. But instead it was just character development, which i'm okay with I guess. But they even got rid of the one magical character with powers that WANTED to come back to remnant.
Personal idea RT won't do....make a FTM character one of the maidens...more trans inclusion and also a really good way to hide a maiden in plain sight and have an interesting story point.
On the Ozpin's Daughters theory: I think the biggest flaw here is that while Ozpin isn't a wholly reliable narrator, his description of his power having declined as a result of giving large portions of it to the Maidens definitely seems consistent with what we've been shown of his abilities. He was this remarkable warrior in the age of Light and Darkness, and in his first reincarnation was able to fight evenly with Salem and seemingly only ultimately succumbed due to her regeneration. With that kind of power at his disposal, a fight like the one at Haven should've come grinding to a halt the moment that Ozpin took control of Oscar's body since both of the Maidens were at the vault. If the Maidens inherited their power from his daughters rather than being portions of his own that have left him severely weakened, absolutely no one left on the battlefield should've been able to compete with Ozpin's power, and presumably ending it quickly would've been far less stressful on Oscar's body than dragging it out in a melee battle with Hazel that also left the rest of his allies at risk. Also, from what I recall (though I admit it's been a minute), only one of his daughters was shown developing magical abilities before they were killed relatively soon afterwards in the battle between their parents. On the Salem Ascension one: Honestly, I'm not sure Salem would be that hard to convince without even needing violence. Her whole gimmick seems to be that she's wanted to die for ages, and summoning the Brothers is basically her trying to wipe out humanity for technically undefined purposes out of spite (or possibly the hope that maybe they'll finally end her immortality if they decide humanity's second chance was a failure). So the opportunity to encounter an entity that could very possibly just shrug its shoulders and handwave away her immortality so she could just die might be a tempting offer. The biggest hurdle would likely just be convincing Salem that it was legit and not some kind of attempt to trap her in the abyss. Even then, I expect Salem would eventually conclude that if Team RWBY could escape then she - as an immortal sorceress with vastly superior power - would be able to do the same.
I‘m adding something to the Salem Ascend theory: Could a Jabberwalker kill Salem? Everything eaten by that will be wiped out of existence, maybe Salem too? This is the world where the gods came from at last
Probably the best theory as to how Salem could conventionally die, as being cursed by lesser divine powers with eternal life could probably totally be overpowered by being blessed by a higher divine power to simply erase things outright.
Here's my own theory I came up with a few years ago. Cinder is now immortal. Jinn actually said the fountain of light gave Salem her immortality. Though it could hyperbole. But Cinder survived what should have killed her. More than once. Her Shadow Hand Grimm arm even regenerated. The idea is the domain of light was in Mistral. The location of the continent shaped like the god of light. Destroyed from the falling pieces of the moon. The water at the bottom of the vault is what remains of it.
I rather like the idea that Salem and Oz’s daughters inherited a hybrid immortality, having their mothers unkillability, where they can live being torn apart (a la Cinder) but not regenerate and their fathers reincarnation but not his body take over.
Hi Critter, I’ve been re listening to your podcasts on my drives to college, do you think you’ll do any more based on RWBY/any show? My favorites are probably the QnA/Theories and volume discussion ones, you guys are hilarious!
Crazy theory here but what if all this craziness on reminant was intentional by the younger brother diety of distruction. What if the actual target here isnt Salem but her adversaries aka team RWBY. Its said hunans were made for both creation and distruction, what if the goal was to errod away all hope and have humans choose the brother of distruction instead of creation. Already two headmasters failed to do the right thing when called upon, and without the older bothers prensence to keep the balance in check it seams like on their eventual return the younger brother would have succeeded for a place of his own, as long as salem can do enough damage to make her adversaries lose hope on the brothers return. It would be intresting to see the dieties having plans within plans. Not to mention they have certainly fought before. I cant imagine the younger brother being all too pleased of continuing to follow his older brother whilst always in his shadow.
10:15 - when I saw that for the first time, I never believe she died right then and there. Cinder was frozen and she fell down this dark pit. Did not hear a crash, thud, or even a splash. In the words of Dexter Grif: _”I’ll tell you what, you produce a corpse and then I’ll believe you when you tell me she’s dead.”_
14:44 I get coming up with possible solutions on how to stop her me personally I’d prefer it if Cinder just absorbed her power either curing Salem or assimilating her and cinder can be the final boss while taking care of Salem at the same time. I get no one likes cinder but my rebuttal is that she’s been an infinitely more active antagonist with the distinction that you can actually punch this one until she’s down.
I can somewhat see cinder absorbing just the Grimm, and thus the cosmic fundamental hate for life out of Salem, that could in all likelihood leave her far more emotionally unstable/vulnerable and thus weak to any final act emotional knockdown drag out bare knuckle smack down beat down the writers could pull, and an embittered cinder somehow stealing Salem’s magic in the last few moments of her life after her curse breaks could lead to a compelling fight scene as cinder progressively learns the full power of ye oldie magiks of yore
14:30 not a theory because I know the writers won’t do it, but I think it’s a fun idea. I always imagined that the fairy tales people were based off of could directly connect to the ever after. If you were to alter the story in the ever after, you could possibly alter the real person, giving team RWBY a way to kill Salem.
Honestly I’ve always kinda thought there’s a SLIGHT (emphasis on slight) possibility of Coco being the summer maiden when we get to vacuo. Mostly just because she always wears those glasses which could theoretically hide whenever she’s using her maiden powers as the eyes are a dead giveaway of who’s the maiden. It would also make a cool mystery of “someone is clearly the summer maiden here but we have no idea who it is and we have to find out soon before Salem figures out herself”. (Plus I just wanna see coco again outside of supplementary material lol)
Your RWBY theories videos are awesome, Critter! You definitely gotta do more! I could've sworn i once saw a really wild one one Reddit once that basically said Yang was like a Jesus figure for Remnant no joke lol 😂
Hmmm. You know what I just realized? Winter sometimes has silver eyes, and other times she has blue. Is she a silver eyed- ... ... ... I'm kidding. My eyes are green, and I'll go through periods where they look silver/gray, and then go back to green. It's an animation error! (In real life) 😂
In my opinion the ozma kids one just can't be true , cause they literally have an entire episode about what he's hiding and it isn't brought up , only the fact he had kids is. Also I genuinely feel it would be incompetent to leave that unanswered for that long of a time, and really don't attribute even more incompentecy to crwby
The thing about the Salem ascending theory is that the brothers' curse to her was "as long as this world turns, you shall walk it's face". So basically, as long as time goes on in Remnant, she can't die nor LEAVE it at all, so she couldn't go to the ever after, drink the tea and ascend somehow. Only if by some miracle someone grabbed a bit of the tree tea and brought it to Remnant for Salem to drink. But...RWBY and Jaune just got out and they Lost their opportunity for it
Less of a theory but more of a head canon of the power system, but Winter and Weiss should be abusing their summon conditions. First on the rare and mega sized Grimm, 100% if I were Weiss during the Kaiju grim fight I would've ran in and gotten the final 1 hp slash on it, because then I can summon it. Same thing with the Armor Gigas setting a precedent for mashing a bunch of possession grim into inanimate objects. If she can summon the entire suit of armor, she can summon a Atlesian Paladin after shoving 20 possession grim in it. That's just me
I had a bizarre theory that ozpin started the great war that he knew the political tension was happening or he was directly responsible so he let it happen so he could create a new world order where he has control it would've made ozpin more shady
I don't think neither Salem or Ozpin can ascend. The curious cat, who was a creation from the two brothers, said he can't ascend, so according to RWBY, any creation from two brothers can't ascend. Salem and Ozpin got their gifts from the two brothers, so I have my doubts they are able to ascend.
well yes, but that wouldn't be the case if tyrian actually had issues with his sight, hence why the scene is mentioned by critter as one that disproves the theory
Ok this is one of my crazy theories that I just came up with so hear me out……. What of Summer ascended? Now we still don’t know what happened to Summer so what if she went to the ever after and died then she chose to ascend. But now that I’m really thinking it through it really doesn’t explain Summers grave in Patch but it does explained why her weapon who be there so it’s somewhat possible. Plus if Summer chose to ascend then that means she could be with her family again. But then again if you ascend we have the memory loss thing but also maybe u can chose to keep your memories, but that’s only if u don’t chose to ascend? I don’t know ascending is very confusing and I do t know why the CRWBY didn’t simply it or something. But I think this is still kinda sort of possible but I don’t think it’s really gonna happen though. It’s still good for au though so there’s that.
Good video, I really enjoyed it. My favorites definitely had to be Winter dies her hair and your Oscar ascension theory. Honestly one theory I'm surprised didn't make it is the Fria is Nora's grandmother theory that was so popular in Volume 7. I personally will throw out two theories. 1. This is an old one that I used to have and I don't know if it was popular or anything. But I remember back after Qrow told his creation story, I thought for sure that Salem and Ozma were the brother gods but inhabiting human bodies for some reason. I thought that rhe God of Creation, believing in the process of life and death, shared bodies with the hosts to allow them to be chosen/live their lives. But the God of Darkness was not into that and just kept the same woman tortured and alive for thousands upon thousands of years and that's how the two have been having this war. 2. The show will end with Salem gathering the relics and the Gods showing up. Seeing that humanity is divided, they follow up on their promise to wipe it out and do so. But the Tree is the one that intervenes and stops the gods from destroying humanity. I call it Tree Ex Machima. It's something I don't exactly like but expect to happen.
I used to have this weird theory that Raven was the first to know of Summer's death. It's more of a baseless headcanon than anything, but the line of thought was that the connection that Raven's semblance grants her when she forms a bond with someone not only allows her to create portals, but also grants her additional powers like being able to sense people's state of being to a degree, and sense impending danger, keeping up with the theme of omens. I think that when Summer died, her bond with her was severed and she knew something bad happened immediately. I have no proof for this, just headcanon. Whenever Yang was close to dying, she was always there to intercept the final blow of her attacker. I also always found it convenient that Raven only ever appeared in the first 3 volumes when Yang was either in a sketchy situation or in some sort of danger. You can say that Raven was just always watching Yang in her own protective way, but I like to think there were times where Raven was doing her own thing and just had some form of pseudo precognition telling her that a loved one was in danger, and she would make it a priority to ensure Yang's safety whenever it kicked in. Yeah, I know there's some holes in it, but like I said, it was just a weird headcanon/theory.
I subscribe to the fact Ozpin's children are the first incarnations of the maidens. Their magical powers were obviously passed on from salem and ozpin (or whatever incarnation he was at the time). Since everyone else had to use dust, this family was the only magic-weilding family BUT what strengthens it for me, is the maiden powers, fundementally, continue on to the next person, almost like the magic powers reincarnate, which is an ability Ozpin has. So I think somehow that magic & curse/trait merged from salem and oz and made it so the magic passes on once the maiden dies. Furthermore I think the initial fairy tale is just one that eventually became warped or padded out as tales do for generations. The overall narrative of 'old man (form of ozpin) bestows 4 maidens their powers' to me is a rough rendition of, 'old man creates / fathers 4 magical daughters.' Thats my take on it anyway 😊
My theory since volume 7 with revealing Salem to the world was Salem would ironically become the thing that unites the people and saves them from the brother’s judgment when/if she does get all of the relics to summon them. She is banking on the humans failing thus the brothers ending everything (also herself in theory). I like the piece of Oscar and Ozma being separated which could be a moment before the brothers being summoned. Salem could be shook for a moment seeing the true Ozma being back and Ozma, being a flawed character, wanting Salem to ascend so they can go back to simply living together until death (callback to the warning of him not finding comfort where he wants to) where a big moment can be Ozma saying “Let. Us. Rest.” (Calling back to the god of light telling Salem to “let him rest” when Ozma originally died)with Salem again showing her petty and selfish side by simply saying “no” like how she whispered to herself before going to the god of darkness and killing him.
I thought maybe they would trap Salem in the everafter somehow, but idk. The cat is still alive so maybe he can do something. But this seems rather weak. It just feels like CRWBY is gonna make a happy ever after ending for Ozma and Salem, to which your theory of ascending Oscar and Ozma could stand.
The tyrian being blind might actually be kinda boosch because alot of people forget about it even the creators from time to time but faunus have superior eyesight and can see in the dark
Yeah Critter's right the Salem Ascends theory is a lot of legwork that; while I do like the theory, I don't think will ever happen, but man do I feel like an idiot for not thinking about putting Ozpin and Oscar in there.
I had a full blown back and forth with some loon on Twitter over the Headcannon of Tyrian being blind, they assumed it was fact and others are just too dumb to see it.
As I watched the ozpin backstory episode, I assumed he had just made up the other story to keep his real life more private. It WAS his past life where he gave 4 sisters powers, he just left out that it was by having kids that he gave them magic powers. I think this is less of a theory and more like unclear lore that could be interpreted in 2 completely different ways 😅
I have a theory. Ruby is the summer maiden. Remember when Ruby sneezed on Weiss? She accidentally breathe fire. But her semblance is the rose petal thing. So if she’s able to shoot fire, that could mean one thing.
Wait are people not aware that we were already told how to get rid of Salems immortality? I mean we were told in the exact same episode it was introduced.
Seriously, isn't it kinda obvious that they're likely going to make Ruby de-grimm Salem with her silver eyes and come back via her immortality so she can then be taught the "balance between life and death" in what'll most likely be a talk-no-jutsu style scene? A whole "victory is in a smaller soul" thing that ties in with Salem's prior monologuing about how there's no victory in mere strength? Summer probably left to try and kill Salem with her silver eyes (because she didn't know about Salem's immortality and thought she could destroy her like a normal Grimm) and but got defeated.
@@Tundra0stalker exactly my thoughts, Salem was not a good person but she was still capable of love and caring, but it was her jumping into the pool of Grimm that made her a monster. It seems really obvious that Ruby is gonna be able to degrimmify her and just as the god of light said "Finally rest after you learn the importance of life and death". Im imagining its also gonna be the send off for Ozma as well and im sure its going to be a mixture of him, Oscar, and Ruby that are gonna finally stop Salem.
@@DevilSlayr I mean, even *as* a Grimm she (as far as we know, as shown in the show) was just a "witch" that lived in the woods by herself until she met Ozma again. She fell genuinely back in love with him as soon as they saw each other again. She only wanted to become ruler of Remnant and replace the 2nd humanity with her and Ozma's descendants because of her prior beef with the Gods, even if it was possibly influenced by her being Grimm. If her motivation really is to destroy the world so she can try and truly die (which is just an assumption on our part, and I hope it isn't her endgame because that's kinda' boring imo and not thought out well at all on Salem's part for several reasons) that's a very *human* motivation.
On the topic on Tyrian being interested in Jaune, I see Tyrian not reading Jaune's semblance, but rather reading Jaune's aura. With Tyrian's semblance, I can't help but expect he has an affinity for reading other's aura levels and activation, allowing him to use his semblance properly. Since we know Jaune has a very strong and thick Aura, I can imagine Tyrian maybe was intrigued about the thickness and quality of his aura. On the maiden theory, I follow your version completely. It explains one crucial factor between the daughters are maiden and maidens are maidens theory: Oz's magic supply. We have been given no other explanation on Oz's dwindling magic supply other than the maiden story, and so I can't help but believe Oz in it. I think if it were untrue it would have been mentioned already. On the final suggestion about Oscar/Ozma being ascended, I think its highly unlikely because if the writers had wanted to do that, they would have done it in Volume Nine. I don't see our heroine's returning to the Ever After again for such trivial things. The only thing I hope for from the Ever After is a possible Neo return. I would love for her ascend, see her ways and be mended [I still want her mute though], and return to Remnant to fight Cinder/Salem for the final battle. I don't think it'll happen, at least without reason, but I would love to see a happier end for her besides just ascendence.
I feel like it’s just Tyrian being like: “who does this bitch think they are using sword and board in this day and age. The audacity both frightens and intrigues me.”
Oh I almost forgot. Oz carried the souls of his dead daughters with him and infused them into the maidens because they asked him to. They pooled all four's spellcasting power then divided it by their elemental essences. But in this state his daughters slumber. If you break the magic of the spring maidens something terrible will happen so even Salem doesnt dare touch the magic. Also she might have a shred of humanity in her.
The Old theory that Raven killed Summer is looking like it might be true. Only difference is that Summer may have asked her to rather than end up like the hound.
Either she killed her or left her for dead in Salem's realm for Salem to turn her into her favorite flying monkey (or a wheeler monkey from Return to Oz, since she IS the Wicked Witch of the West).
My current theory is that Tyrion found Jaune interesting due to their apposing semblances, since Tryion can disrupt aura and Jaune can boost them, I have no idea how Tryion is able to tell that, but it could be similar to Ren's awakening. I do not trust CRWBY to have thought that far ahead though
I think how Blake had a book that was based on Oscar and Ozpin named the man with to souls I think it will go to the next book, the man with four souls so in that I think ozma, Ozpin, Oscar, and some others person will have to share a body
My favorite RWBY fan theories have always been the ones that would be SO cool if implemented in the show, but in reality are only a result of lazy/reused designs, like the theory that Yatsuhashi was the white fang general from the train and secretly a Faunus because they had the same body type, or the famous theory that Mercury had silver eyes but wasn’t telling anyone for some reason
I’ve always thought emerald was gonna be a maiden the summer maiden. They talk about how she’s from vacuo and we have seen a lot of emerald thoughts and feelings throughout all the volumes. Also honestly I just don’t think any of the main girls will ever get the power, it stays just adjacent too them raven and winter.
I also thought Emerald would become the next maiden after volume 5 because Cinder is such a boring character, sadly I've accepted that Cinder is not allowed to die and I hate it. Also regarding Salem we all know the rules of Shonen writing dictate that the main villain is defeated with the power of teamwork and love and all that jazz
I think Cinder's only allowed to die when Ruby is strong enough to do it herself, and/or she's only allowed to die if Salem gets tired of her OR Emerald has her "redeeming myself by defeating my evil stepmom!" moment.
Explaining the massacre: He's a psycho murderer who only cares about Salem and her orders so ke just swung randomly since careless killing won't bother him a milometer large explosive movements in a crowded room with only a handful of people with weapons or combat experience and them caring about bystanders and so can't move and attack as freely in a crowded space with bystanders it will be a harvest for him. Explaining the slow walk He might have had a mild concussion from an aura infused punch to the face twice conducted through his rings and wanting to be more careful about going into close quarters with him again until he had a similar experience to Inosake from Demon Slayer in that thinking things through isn't his style snapped back by the audible noise from Qrow's rings and weapon. And we've seen how good Qrow is is aura manipulation particularly in offensively skills like the Aura Arc and while Aura helps recover damage quickly it's not always automatic especially when someone doesn't place training into that and Tyrian seems to enjoy pain on both sides of the blade so he likely wouldn't place much training in defense so Qrow might get through enough to give him a concussion without aura but with a little aura defenses making it mild and I've been in a few fights even none concussive head hits still works for stunning and hesitation even briefly.
its probably too late for this theory and someone else probably made it up before i did but here we go!, what if the entire story of rwby is actually in ruby's head as a coping mechanism for losing her mother, it'd explain why some things are bad writing but its just a theory and there's not really any proof i think what made me think of it was the theory that the walking dead story was just a dream in ricks coma at the start :P
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Oscar: ambrousus make a separate body for me and Ozpin
Ambrousus: alright *Snap*
Ruby: wow oscar you got your body back what are you going to do now?
Oscar: ... im going home
honestly it would be interesting to see if any secret failsafe's or rules exist for the relic spirits or whatever their called to prevent people like oz or salem from making a workaround to their curses
Honestly, I wouldn't blame him! He was literally forced into the story, he didn't even want to get involved! I know a lot of people hate him, but honestly I just feel sorry for the boy.
@@laraprisma6381 funny thing, I remember reading oneshot/1ch fanfic, right after V3. That ozpin soul went into Jaune (alternately, they were both in the vault when it collapsed, jaune woke up with his hair white with Ozpins voice in his head.) but operated on the same idea of, going to someone of like mindedness/goal.
And really, To em that made sense, it’d give Jaune room to grow as well as his conflict of feelings with his hate/distrust in ozpin. So they don’t have to bring in a new character (ahgain…)
@laraprisma6381 people hate him? Maybe at the start but seems most people like him now
@@SimonPetrikov12 Oscar gained a lot more fans in Volume 7 when he became the Only Sane Man of the group
I always thought Tyrian was able to pull off his Atlas killing spree because all faunus have night vision
I don’t think that’s ever been confirmed in the series. That might’ve been a FRWBY creation.
@@skyslasher2297Pyra says it in one of Oobleck’s classes in first or second season, doesn’t she? When discussing that historic battle
Volume 2 class scene with Blake correctly giving the answer that Faunas have great night vision, further confirmed with Blake shooting out the lights to get an advantage over Torch wick when escaping the fuanas rally. They've got great night vision@@skyslasher2297
@@BlizzardofDreamsshe does say that but I don't think it was ever specified that the night vision was a thing that all Faunus have. I think they meant that faunus had the night vision on their side, but only specific Faunus, like cats.
@@BlizzardofDreams And you think CRWBY remembers that?
Alternate theory, Winter dyes her EYEBROWS black. 🤔
i could actually see this??? i had a friend with super light blonde hair and she started dyeing her eyebrows by the time she was like 11 bc it looked like she had no eyebrows
She came from an abusive controlling house - it might of been the only way she could rebel.
I support this theory because how else will she show her disapproval to everyone around her effectively??? 10/10
Theory: Adam isn’t dead. He washed up in a village, forgot his memory, decided to start a new life, and teaches guitar lessons every Friday for the local faunus orphans. Yes this is a valid theory and no I’m not consuming an unhealthy amount of copium YOU ARE!!!
Or she like draws them on with makeup, like a dark eyebrow pencil, i could see her doing that lmao
"Surely Winter's dyed hair would've been mentioned."
Looks back to Penny's death talked about off screen.
RWBY Theories: *exist*
RWBY Fanfiction: "It's a free real estate."
honestly fanfiction is becoming better than the show at this point.
No other honest words have ever been spoken.
Fanfiction actually make things interesting
@@sunshineueltschy6646yup. No doubt about it.
@@sunshineueltschy6646 IE: since forever.
One of my favourite theories is "Adam is Raven's student". I think it's just strange that they look so similar for no reason.
I remember this fan comic on Deviantart where it was Adam was Raven's son. Played for laughs.
@@FoolsGil "Amazing breasts"
Apart of that is that Monty has one(1) design philosophy for Red characters and it shows, Ruby, Raven, & Adam are all very similar and the only thing they actually have in common is a Red & Black color scheme. Also that RWBY has a massive same face syndrome problem too
@@calicomarker though I'm sure their color scheme has a LOT to do with this theory, there's also the fact that they both use a katana-adjacent weapon that is primarily red but also has dust in it, and that they both have a mask meant to look like a grimm
My headcanon is that Salem actually never met Summer and has been playing pretend all along. I just find it weirdly funny.
Yang: "You killed my mom! Summer Rose!"
Salem: "Oh, so *that's* her name. Thank you, dear. That will make it much easier to manipulate your sister in the future. Now I just need to think of a good story where I destroyed this....Equinox Tulip? No, right. Summer Rose."
Yang: "What?! But I thought you killed her!"
Salem: "Killed her?! I never even met the woman! If Ruby had asked me even a single question through the Seer, like how her mother died, then my entire plan to break the silver eyed nuisance would have been trashed."
Yang: "But...."
Salem: "I lied. That's what I do. Has nobody ever taught you girls to not trust strangers? Oh, right. No mother."
Equinox Tulip is my new band name.
That feels very fairytale-ish, and I love it.
@@Dressup_Doll Thank you.:)
@@Dressup_Doll yep, definitely got the right vibe.
Making Emerald the new Fall Maiden would’ve been a great story direction. Most would agree that Cinder has overstayed her welcome, so her death at the hands of Raven would’ve been a fitting and ironic send-off for her, while Emerald becoming her successor would push her character into an interesting new direction, without redeeming her right away.
It would also give Emerald a reason to want to work for the badguys: revenge for Cinder.
Yea I think she fell into the popularity trap (Like Honor Harrington) they just couldnt kill her cause the fans would get mad.
I disagree with killing off Cinder, while her writing has been lackluster she’s an essential secondary character acting as an important antagonist. For while Salem is the big bad villainess, she’s also rather distanced from the main quartet, a Ocus on his throne if you will. While Cinder is someone team RWBY better acquainted with, having orchestrated the attack on Beacon and the death of Pyrrha. In essence she’s much more of a personal enemy of our heroines and more engaging than any other bad guy in the series.
@@Nephilim1717 While she does represent a more personal enemy in theory, she hasn't really been used that way. She's still always doing things in the background, away from the main characters. She only shows up suddenly and unexpectedly, and her primary interaction with the team is just a straight-up fight. She doesn't feel like some kind of personal nemesis to RWBY. She doesn't feel like she's a foil for Ruby or anyone else on the team.
To Cinder, Ruby is a significant part of her motivation. To Ruby, Cinder is a random boss fight that happens every now and then.
There is *potential* for her to be more connected to RWBY, that potential is never realized in the story itself.
@@GeneralBolas that’s a good point, its been awhile since I last saw the show.
Nora is blind too. She couldn't notice Pyrrha statue. - Twiins Iink review.
the hound having a silver eyed warrior inside of them feels like a parallel to the story of little red riding hood
making Rudy red riding hood, Summer red's grandma and the hound the big bad wolf
Maria is a Grandma
That's so cool!
And there are versions where the wolf eats red, but is then killed and she is cut out of the beast's stomach, alive.
Here's a fun set of theories that I'm not sure have been discussed: What stopped the bomb from falling at the end of Vol. 8?
Theory 1: The most obvious reading is that Clover's medal causes his good luck to come through one more time... somehow?
Theory 2: The bomb not falling was actually an act of Qrow's bad luck. Qrow's semblance is said to be proximity-based, and the bomb not falling did save Mantle, it also put everyone nearby in immediate danger.
Theory 3: IMO the most interesting possibility; Qrow's semblance isn't actually misfortune, but a more broad _luck manipulation._ It's just because he always negative and always expects the worst that the worst always happens, but in a moment when he desperately wants something to go _right,_ it does.
The last one is really cool and interesting but 2 seems like the most obvious one.
can we accept a possible all three? Clover coming through and saving his friends one final time, Qrow's luck/misfortune, and his possible growth into luck manipulation?
@@notquiteallisonlike qrow somehow inherits clovers good luck semblance combining it with his bad luck semblance to give him the ability to manipulate all luck?
I didn't know the ozma kids reincarnated was debunked. I really enjoyed the idea that Oz, Salem, and those girls were dealing with immortality in different ways.
It's still possible that they were reborn as the maidens and Oz didn't know it, or that they were reborn as other characters in the series and we'll find out later. I could see a reveal like that being a part of the solution to the Salem problem.
5:15 It has been said that Faunus have better night vision than Humans. Though this scene is by far the worst in the entire show, in terms of plot holes & contrivences. Off the top of my head we have:
>Nobody in the crowd using scrolls as light sources or even a flash light
>There being no Faunus who can see in the dark nor anyone with a light emitting semblence to use (or even Marrow's STAY)
>Watts being able to hack the Penny's eyes (but not the rest of her) to remove Tyrian from her vision (somehow) but also not be able to hack the rest of her to do his bidding at this moment
>Penny's green glowy lights not playing a role
>When the lights come back on everyone assumes it was Penny because she stood in the centre of the stage around the dead bodies, because she was lured there
>Nobody realises Penny's swords have no blood on them, nor do they realise that if Penny was the culprit that she didn't hide it very well, if she is still standing in the centre of the room (Ironwood's robot + mob panick = guilty enough)
>People assuming the election was hacked because Jacque one but not that the attack would have been unnecessary and only drew attention to it and make the whole thing super suspicious
Now I want Emerald to befriend the Summer maiden and become a maiden that way. The angst and potential character moments when Cinder comes after her and proves without a doubt she does NOT give a damn about Em to her face.
The last theory idea is genius I'm sure the idea will never come across the writers minds.
Literally all they have to do is grab a leaf that like stuck to their clothes in the ever after and just force feed her that. Or better yet blow her up and just instantly shove it in her stomach Mortal Kombat fatality style.
I fully believed the Ozpin's daughters maiden theory because he had his children *after* he reincarnated, so his reincarnation, and Salem's undying nature created a sustainable magic that transfers. It's possible Ozpin doesn't know for certain these are his daughters, but to lose 4 magical daughters and then see 4 magical girls pop up it's only natural to assume it was his or Salems magic. Giving 4 random girls powers does kind of line up with him doing things like turning 2 students into birds though
It's possible that he gave up almost all his magic, but why is their magic seemingly endless? maybe it is finite and we havent seen it. We'll never know unless RT confirms.
Rooster teeth isn't that subtle though, I feel like we wouldn't have been shown 4 color coded daughters if it wasn't supposed to be the maidens.
As someone who didn't watch volume 9, I am uniquely unqualified to talk on the latest theories. That being said, my favorite theory I knew the writers would never do was to pull a Wizard of Oz and have all the characters in Wonderland be mirror images of the characters who have died, with Penny being the white rabbit, Pyrrha being the Red Queen, Torchwick being the Mad Hatter, Watts being the March Hare, Tyrian or Adam being the Cheshire Cat, Ironwood being the Red Queen's executioner, etc.
I just think it would have been more interesting to have characters we already knew back, rather than bringing in a whole bunch of new ones while we have RWBY+Neo+Jaune deal with a new place.
They did do a "dead man's party" via Neo's semblance, but that would have been cool too.
I do like the idea of the ever after being a twisted afterlife.
Tyrian: To be honest, I think Jaune is kind of interesting.
FNDM: But why, though
YES, Tyrion, YES... Moar disabled villains! MOAR! (I just have Russell T Davies' now infamous words echoing in my head as you said about him being blind, and I find that hilarious - btw, as a former actor, villains are some of the most fun roles that you can play, and so the idea of denying disabled people the opportunity for "representation" on such ludicrous grounds is frankly repugnant, yet Davies is so absolutely fanatical about it; yeah, I'm sure everyone totally looks at Davros and is like: wow, all people in wheelchairs are evil genocidal mutants).
Neo is conceptually epic. And it actually makes a lot of sense for that scene if Tyrion was blind. The punch from Qrow doesn't feel like it would work, but if Tyrion expected the blade to be wielded in that moment and misjudged it as a result, plus the overly drawn out walk, it would go a long way to fixing the only real flaws in that fight.
It's also possible that they originally intended for him to be partly blind, and they forgot about it.
I thought Tyrian let Qrow walk past because letting Qrow get his sword would make the fight more "fun" for him, and that's a bigger priority than just immediately winning for him. I mean, a lot of the other scenes (like him picking off single people in atlas) he kinda likes to play with his food.
It's not stated clearly in the show, but I personally believe that finding all the relics and bringing the god brothers back is Salem's final try of suicide. Because the gods will surely not spare this world. And if nothing can kill her, maybe wiping the whole world would bring her peace.
And adding to that, if we want to connect the main plot with volume 9's shananigans, Salem could possibly ascend if told that she would lose immortality and could finally die. A bittersweet ending, quite on brand with the show.
jaune being related to salem is actually really interesting but i would only really entertain the idea if jaune/JNPR were the protagonists instead of ruby and her team
It would help loop things back around to his inspiration. Joan of Arc was burned by the Cardinal of Winchester for "witchcraft". Considering Salem is the Wicked Witch of the West - if Juane is related to her - they could play it as Jaune, descendant of the wicked witch in history, gets burned to death *by* said witch in a Salem Witch Trials sort of deal during the final battle, just after he helps lead humanity to victory over the Grimm.
Or do literally anything regarding that. Seriously, they haven't really done anything with his fairy tale inspiration since Volume 1.
I thought, back in v7 when Oz was being moody, that the squad would use the aura transfer machine and penny’s synthetic life form that can produce an aura tech to pull Oz out of Oscar and give him a robot body
... Now every time I see a clip of Tyrian, I see more credit to this theory. Even in the very same setting as the Qrow fight, when his tail is revealed in the fight vs. RNJR, his "Surprise..." doesn't even have him looking at the opponent he's blocking. He looks like he's zoned out on the delivery itself.
Damn, kinda would have loved Blind Tyrian.
to me it cannon
Ngl I was really onbaord with the "Salem Ascends theory" until you pointed out why it wouldn't work. I think team RWBY would have to do some heavy talk no jutsu to pull it off. Or they could tell her ascension is a way she could turn into something that could die and she can finally find peace. On a side note, who do you think the summer maiden will be? There are a lot of theories about it that I thought would be featured in the video
I really wish the Summer Maiden isn't anyone in the show already. The three Maidens that we currently know of at the beginning of the show were: 1. injured and power stolen by Cinder, 2. Rogue Bandit Queen, and 3. Elderly and retired. It would be really interesting if The Summer Maiden was similar to how Amber was; active and helping around Sanus.
The tree tells Ruby that "nothing can happen to you here that you don't want to happen" so even if they somehow force-fed salem some loose-leaf ever after tea, if she doesnt want to ascend into something the heroes can kill, she won't. I know ospin says she craves death, but it also seems like she really hates ozpin, so I kinda don’t think she'd be willing to find peace and die unless he was going down with her
My moneys on Velvet.
We’ve seen a Human Maiden (Raven, and granted now Winter), Grimm Maiden (Cinder) and a robot maiden (Penny). The show likes to do things in 4s, so all that’s left is a Fanus.
I made a full comment and someone mentioned it could be Suns cousin Starr from Before the Dawn, which I really like as well. Still, Velvet best girl
Imo the only way to break the curse of Salem’s immortality, as stated by the gods, is to have her understand the importance of death, which I don’t see happening via ascension.
is it just me or do i think the summer maiden will be summer herself like she's been this figure thats been teased the entire show and like in vacuo all of ruby and yangs family will be there since raven might coming back due to the rtx teaser
I’ve always theorized that the Summer maiden is gonna be a Fanus (my moneys on Velvet) We’ve seen a Human maiden (Raven), Grimm maiden (Cinder) and a robot Maiden (Penny). RWBY likes to do things in 4s, so all that leaves is a Fanus Maiden.
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I’m 99% sure Summer will be confirmed as a current or past Summer maiden based off how the show is leading the audience right now.
@@scrambledEgg69 many have theorized that Sun's cousin in Vacuo who is briefly mentioned in "Before the Dawn" could be a possible candidate. Her name is Starr Sanzang.
i know I'm 3 months late to this comment, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the original plan was for Summer to have been the Summer Maiden, but then when she died that actually passed her magic on to Ruby since who else would she be thinking about most in that moment if not her own daughter. Then they'd have this big reveal of Ruby having been a Maiden all along in some pivotal moment where she unintentionally uses magic when they're about to lose a big fight (or something lame, like Ozpin just revealing it when they get to the last vault) or something like that.
I do like the idea of Salem ascending, and like you said in the video, team rwby would have to go through a lot of hoops to get her there. But what if, she willingly goes? She ascends into a mortal form so she can finally die, it's what she wanted before she fell into the pool of grimm
I mean considering Salem wants to die, you could just… tell her about it.
Ozpin made the vaults where those objects reside, so it stands to reason Salem might be able to crack into the same power. She could fall through the world on purpose.
Alternatively, once our team has all four maiden powers, reassembling Ozma’s full power, they could work together to open a portal that sends her through.
i kinda want the blacksmith to show up at the end and be like 'hey kids, time to stop being evil overlords and remove the curse you stuck on ozma and salem, the whole reason I made ascending a thing is because immortality is the peak of all cruelty ' and the brothers have to fix everything because they made the mess and i dont see how anyone else is going to be able to
As expected, another fantastic video.
A few fun theories, some I believe in, with a couple micro-headcanons mixed in. Your interpretation of the Maiden Tale is very plausible and neat. The icing on the cake is the Ozma Ascension Theory.
Splitting the souls of Ozma and Oscar would be genius. It would give Team RWBY another powerful member to their team, add drama with Salem, and tidy up a certain little ship. However, there would be a ticking clock when trying this since Ozma's and Oscar's souls would eventually merge into one. Given the indeterminate time between Atlas' fall and the end of Vol. 9, it might be too late.
Thank you and have a lovely day.
P.s.
(Okay, a little rant. I apologize in advance.)
It is just me and only me, but I always get irked when people say Aura Amp is Jaune's Semblance. The man didn't even unlock his Aura before Vo. 1 and people are saying he discovered it within a year/ year-and-a-half? The earliest possible showing of it would've been during the Jaundice Arc when Cardin was about to punch him. His Aura pulsed and blanked out the screen, leaving Cardin with a hurt hand and a ringing in the air. I am under the belief that during this instance and all the others, Jaune isn't using a Semblance, he is just utilizing the vast stores of Aura that Pyrrha mentioned.
Think about it:
Ren used Storm Flower and his Aura during his King Taijitu Fight, blocking the fangs with Aura Pulses, Not a Semblance.
A fighter's weapons and clothing don't get damaged in a fight, why? Because it was confirmed that Aura protects all of them in battle, Not a Semblance.
Jaune has shown to be capable of these feats and more. If Aura can protect a weapon/ armor passively, why can't it be expanded to be shared with another person? Heck, Pyrrha shared her own Aura to unlock Jaune's, so let Jaune share his own.
Yes, the wiki explains he is sharing his Aura through Aura Amp, but it also says he boosts his own Aura with his Semblance.
Aura -> Semblance -> Aura -> Semblance...
Simple conservation of energy debunks this.
Conclusion:
Jaune doesn't have a Semblance!!!!
Related note:
Please CRWBY, expand upon Aura some more. It has the potential to be something great, better than a "Forcefield" and Semblance fuel. Let characters use Aura Slashes and Aura Pulses, let them share their Aura to help teammates recover in a fight.
Don't let Shion be the only Nightmare Hunter in Remnant, create a profession of characters that use their Aura in the same capacity. Yes, Shion's Semblance helps them in Ice Queendom, but that's what makes them a cut above the other Nightmare Hunters, not the only one. Also expand on Shion's string Glyph, saying that it is the natural path Aura follows or the like.
Aura is shown to control projectiles/ string, so give Nora back her Rocket Heart and Mercury his Bullet-nado.
And since you love Bumblebee so much, let someone teach them how to "merge their Auras" and give them a kid, no adoption or Donor (probably Sun) required.
So much potential and the perfect person on the cast to showcase what Aura can really do.
Don't give Jaune a Semblance, let him show people what power they already possess.
Sorry again for bloating up this comment, I just wanted to get it off my chest.
Thank you again and have a wonderful day.
According to the novels, while rare, it IS possible to unlock a semblance BEFORE unlocking their Aura, the most extreme case being Gillian Asturias, who unlocked her semblance while still in the womb, it is also possible for the semblance to already be unlocked but undiscovered, Nora probably would have never found out what her semblance was if she hadn't been struck by lightning at some point.
@@narutorasbat I forgot about Gillian.
The possibility of a Semblance developing without the person's knowledge does add a spanner into the works.
I guess I got caught up in the grandeur of my ideas. All I want is a little more variety in the core cast. Everyone has a Semblance, but only Blake and Ren have shown skills outside of weapons and Semblances. Why can't Jaune join them and show how far the abilities can go.
Thank you for the response.
The original Maiden origin story could be heavily metaphor, referring to his social isolation being broken by starting a family. I could believe that.
Personally, since the end of Volume 9, I’ve thought that there was a bunch of evidence as to how Salem will be defeated at the end of the show. My theory is that using the Silver Eyes and some of the Maiden magic could somehow bypass Salem’s immortality and kill her. That whole scene in Volume 9 where Raven and Summer are talking about going on that secret mission, feels like it has to be connected to Salem.
We also still don’t know who made the first wish on the Lamp, but considering how Raven would be the only one who had access to the Lamp’s vault implies that she learned some special knowledge that we didn’t learn from the Volume 6 Salem/Ozma backstory. It feels weird how confident Raven is in the Volume 9 compared to her in the modern day, the whole “There is no defeating Salem!” thing.
Also, the fact that Salem went from “Send assassins to deal with Silver Eyed people” to “Transform Silver Eyed people into Grimm hounds.” implies that something happened with Salem that made her realize how dangerous Silver Eyed people are.
Essentially I think that Raven and Summer went to try and kill Salem over in the Grimmlands, and almost succeeded. However, Salem, absolutely furious at being on death’s door, retaliated and threw Summer into one of the Grimm pools. Raven retreated and Summer, through her Silver Eyed powers, managed to resist being destroyed by the Grimm pool, but ended up becoming the first Grimm hound.
What do you all think about it?
That's a really good theory! Hopefully that can be implemented in Volume 10 (and maybe volume 9 beyond).
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Absolutely not, traditionally speaking, god curses are almost to entirely impossible to finagle around, ESPECIALLY if the whole point of the curse is to be an aesop or moral lesson to the cursed, silver eyes and heavy magic MIGHT be able to maybe petrify her for a good while but when a god CURSES you with immortality, typically speaking, you’re going to be pretty freakin immortal until you learn your lesson.
Alternatively, the Silver Eyes can just de-Grimmify her, making her sane enough to "understand the importance of death" and therefore lose power over the Grimm and be killable. Salem is our Wicked Witch of the West and Summer seems to have been our Dorothy - but things didn't go so well for her even with her Silver Eyes/Slippers (the Ruby Slippers were Silver in the books), so now it's up to our new Dorothy in Ruby to go there with RUBY Slippers to de-Grimmify her with that same eye magic.
It's unclear whether or not Raven was the Spring Maiden yet, but Raven was most definitely the backup/transportation. Raven is a strong fighter with or without magic, but her portal can get them tf out of there and back to the Rose residence in Patch if things go south (which they obviously did, leaving Raven to probably leave Summer for dead).
I did not know that Winter bleaching her hair was a Theory, but I did come here to talk about something interesting I did with the Schnees cause I was tired of them looking like Copy & Pasted versions of Weiss over and over again. In my redesigns and rewrites, Willow Schnee, Weiss Schnee, & Nicholas Schnee(not that I give a shit about him) are the only Schnees have true genetic White Hair, Jacques obviously has Black hair that he was bleaching before his old age eventually whitened out, and Winter & Whitley both have black hair, but because Jacques is so transfixed on the idea of the “Perfect Schnee Image” he is/was forcibly bleaching their hair, still bleaches Whitley’s hair as Whitley is still young and hasn’t expressed the same desire to leave Weiss & Winter have, whilst Winter has allowed her Black hair to grow normally, no longer under Jacque’s control.
I have a theory. Jacques has secretly helped the White Fang. Before Blake revealed her Faunus heritage, Weiss mentioned that she lost friends and family to the White Fang. If Willow had siblings, they would have a better claim to the SDC as Jacques married into the Schnees. So he leaked where they are and what guards they have to the White Fang and they got the drop on them. This allows Jacques to takeover the SDC with no one to stop him and the White Fang's reign of terror gives Jacques a way to use fear to make more oppressive Faunus labor laws. Sienna wouldn't know about it as Jacques could leak the information anonymously.
Edit: I rewatch the Adam short and it showed the White Fang leaving a SDC facility without any Dust so that could've been a assassination job and they were escaping after doing it.
Oh this one is good
cool thoughts but I don't think it works with the timeline. -Sienna only began as high leader likely around Blake's adolescence. Since Jacques married Willow at a point many of us guess to be 4-6 years previous to Wiess/Blake's birth [Because Winter is likely around that much older], he didn't get the company until around that time. I believe it may have been mentioned that Willow was Nicholas's oldest daughter, and perhaps she just had the most claim to the company as the oldest because of that. I do like to believe Jacques leaked information to get things he wanted, but I also can't see these motivations regarding getting his place as head of the company to be likely.
The whole Tyrian bit of Jaune just struck me as him being gay.
He went " Damn , hey cutie ! You look interesting !"
Just a silly though XD .
Headcannon accepted. :D
Jaune: I need an adult.
Tyrian: I _am_ an adult!
@@JuanLeon-oe6xeJaune: I NEED AN ADULT!!
The idea of that Winter dies her hair in the bathroom like Romana did in Scott Pilgram Takes off is living rent free in my head.
I've had a theory since Djin was first used that Salem can actually be killed or at least defeated in a permanent or semi permanent way.
The reasons why I still believe this are:
1: When Ozcar/Ozma asked Djin if Salem could be defeated he was alone so the "YOU can't" could be interpreted as Ozma can't since the You in English can be singular or plural.
2: When Djin said "you can't" referring to beating Salem she was actually retelling Ozmas story in the past, not telling the future.
3: If Salem is unbeatable why is she so scare about silver eyed people to the point of hunting them to near extinction and breaking their spirits?
So my theory is that even if she can't be killed by silver eyed people, she can be petrified like the giant dragon from the fall of Beacon defeating her, and the reason why Ozma can't defeat her is either because of their shared history or because he can't reincarnate into a silver eyed person.
13:55 My headcanon he just thinks Jaune is handsome and that’s what’s interesting.
um- i hope not. Jaune was like 18 then and Tyrian is in his mid-late 30s. that's a weird age gap, even for a villain character
@@humanintelegence Tyrian, like, murders people, seemingly just for fun? I don't think he would care.
That said, it would be kind of cringe. Making your evil serial killer gay and doing weird passes at the seemingly straight male protagonist is so cringe.
@@TulipQ you don’t have to be gay to appreciate the male appearance
@@skyslasher2297 That is true
I thought what if tyrain maybe was in Battle with Jaune dad or something and maybe even jaune dad was the one who put him in prison and maybe tyrain wanted revenge or something I don’t know just a lazy through
Having Salem ascend and thereby resolving the plot has one advantage: it requires the *least* time.
RT is not... financially healthy. Even if RWBY gets a V10, there's every chance that this would be the absolute *last* volume of RWBY. If the creators realize that, then it would be good if they could wrap the plot up somehow.
Find a way to yank Salem into the Ever After and have her ascend, and then the story's over. Oscar/Ozpin could handle that while Team RWBY and Cinder have some kind of final battle to tie things up, and that's it.
This would be the most efficient way of tying everything up in one season.
Maybe they just shoot her out of cannon into the Ever After. No matter what destruction she causes, no one there will die off due to her actions. The tree makes the afteran's stronger and stronger as they progress and adapt to her actions. Eventually, she see's that they come back just as she does, but stronger. So she ascends in an effort to get strong. Tree says "Nah." and remakes her to be exactly who she needs to be in order to see the errors of her ways. Boom story ends.
When Yang first got her arm cut off, I remember reading a theory that she was going to regrow it in the next season. The argument was that a dragon (Taiyang) + a bird (Raven) = a phoenix (Yang) so Yang would have regenerative powers.
I predict that there's going to be some big reveal about Salem and Ozma's daughters that ends up being part of what causes Salem to have a change of heart. Either one or more of them survived that tragic night and Salem has descendants on Remnant she doesn't know about, or her daughters have been reborn as other characters on Remnant. She will go to the tree, and the heroes will end up getting the relics back. Ruby may even guide Salem to the tree and be found by Somewhat. I think Cinder will be dead by the time all of this happens.
Another thing about one of Jaune's sisters being a Maiden could explain why Ozpin let him in despite his lack of ability
I like the Oscar one. Justice for Oscar.
Tbh I’d love to see more Glenda and Cindy fights. It be so interesting to see how they would interact and fight more
Headcanon idea: the original springs maiden was one of the arc sisters, who ran away and caught by Raven.
I’d like to think that was an idea till they changed their mind and wrote themselves to make Raven the Spring Maiden, not acknowledging who’s the original maiden.
My old point of annoyance was them not taking the leaves with them out of Not-Wonderland.
How the burning of the leaves works is that you must work out your issues or be stuck in it... Unless something blows it away or removes the person from being in it.
Salem is immortal until the planet is gone or she works out her issues.
That was literally the item needed to solve that issue and since they are not affected by the mist due to plot... Claiming to have worked out their issues...
You could literally hold Salem in the mist as she struggles with facing her issues.
They had a literal in cannon method for beating her and ignored it! That is why people call it the filler arc!
i find it so weird that some people make their maiden eye flames different colour than the eyes but the show has proved it over and over that the flames match the eyes, pennys green flames and ravens red flames match their eyes
In some AU where rwby is rewritten and the idea of maidens goes through some changes, it would be cool to see not just one maiden being Jaune's sister, but also that the reason Jaune comes from a "long line of heroes" (said somewhere in early season 1) is because one of the maidens powers have been kept in his family and passed down through the generations. This would put greater emphasis on why Jaune feels he has a legacy to live up to, and would justify his unnaturally high aura output.
Rwby theory: exists
Fanfic Writers: Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Got so thrown off the fun vibe of this video with those Tortured Ruby scenes 😭 I loved all the theories!
Theory that I had but was instantly shattered was that the everafter existed so the girls could learn "Magic" something more than semblances and the maiden's basic elemental stuff. Like this land still had magic and powers that just being IN the everafter would rub off on them. That way they could fight salem and her serious but basic elemental magic with something more wacky and emotion driven. But instead it was just character development, which i'm okay with I guess. But they even got rid of the one magical character with powers that WANTED to come back to remnant.
Personal idea RT won't do....make a FTM character one of the maidens...more trans inclusion and also a really good way to hide a maiden in plain sight and have an interesting story point.
Oo I like that last theory about Oscar and ozma
On the Ozpin's Daughters theory: I think the biggest flaw here is that while Ozpin isn't a wholly reliable narrator, his description of his power having declined as a result of giving large portions of it to the Maidens definitely seems consistent with what we've been shown of his abilities. He was this remarkable warrior in the age of Light and Darkness, and in his first reincarnation was able to fight evenly with Salem and seemingly only ultimately succumbed due to her regeneration. With that kind of power at his disposal, a fight like the one at Haven should've come grinding to a halt the moment that Ozpin took control of Oscar's body since both of the Maidens were at the vault. If the Maidens inherited their power from his daughters rather than being portions of his own that have left him severely weakened, absolutely no one left on the battlefield should've been able to compete with Ozpin's power, and presumably ending it quickly would've been far less stressful on Oscar's body than dragging it out in a melee battle with Hazel that also left the rest of his allies at risk. Also, from what I recall (though I admit it's been a minute), only one of his daughters was shown developing magical abilities before they were killed relatively soon afterwards in the battle between their parents.
On the Salem Ascension one: Honestly, I'm not sure Salem would be that hard to convince without even needing violence. Her whole gimmick seems to be that she's wanted to die for ages, and summoning the Brothers is basically her trying to wipe out humanity for technically undefined purposes out of spite (or possibly the hope that maybe they'll finally end her immortality if they decide humanity's second chance was a failure). So the opportunity to encounter an entity that could very possibly just shrug its shoulders and handwave away her immortality so she could just die might be a tempting offer. The biggest hurdle would likely just be convincing Salem that it was legit and not some kind of attempt to trap her in the abyss. Even then, I expect Salem would eventually conclude that if Team RWBY could escape then she - as an immortal sorceress with vastly superior power - would be able to do the same.
I‘m adding something to the Salem Ascend theory: Could a Jabberwalker kill Salem? Everything eaten by that will be wiped out of existence, maybe Salem too? This is the world where the gods came from at last
That could work expect for the fact that im pretty sure its dead. Unless the tree just respawns it, I don't think anyone but Neo can bring it back.
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I’m pretty sure it will come back, since they can’t fully die unless eaten by another Jabberwalker
Probably the best theory as to how Salem could conventionally die, as being cursed by lesser divine powers with eternal life could probably totally be overpowered by being blessed by a higher divine power to simply erase things outright.
I just started the video, but I just want to say that any crazy theory is enjoyable. I'm happy to see what's in store.
Here's my own theory I came up with a few years ago. Cinder is now immortal.
Jinn actually said the fountain of light gave Salem her immortality.
Though it could hyperbole. But Cinder survived what should have killed her.
More than once. Her Shadow Hand Grimm arm even regenerated. The idea is the domain of light was in Mistral. The location of the continent shaped like the god of light. Destroyed from the falling pieces of the moon. The water at the bottom of the vault is what remains of it.
I rather like the idea that Salem and Oz’s daughters inherited a hybrid immortality, having their mothers unkillability, where they can live being torn apart (a la Cinder) but not regenerate and their fathers reincarnation but not his body take over.
Hi Critter, I’ve been re listening to your podcasts on my drives to college, do you think you’ll do any more based on RWBY/any show? My favorites are probably the QnA/Theories and volume discussion ones, you guys are hilarious!
just starting, im excited!
Crazy theory here but what if all this craziness on reminant was intentional by the younger brother diety of distruction. What if the actual target here isnt Salem but her adversaries aka team RWBY. Its said hunans were made for both creation and distruction, what if the goal was to errod away all hope and have humans choose the brother of distruction instead of creation. Already two headmasters failed to do the right thing when called upon, and without the older bothers prensence to keep the balance in check it seams like on their eventual return the younger brother would have succeeded for a place of his own, as long as salem can do enough damage to make her adversaries lose hope on the brothers return. It would be intresting to see the dieties having plans within plans. Not to mention they have certainly fought before. I cant imagine the younger brother being all too pleased of continuing to follow his older brother whilst always in his shadow.
10:15 - when I saw that for the first time, I never believe she died right then and there. Cinder was frozen and she fell down this dark pit. Did not hear a crash, thud, or even a splash.
In the words of Dexter Grif: _”I’ll tell you what, you produce a corpse and then I’ll believe you when you tell me she’s dead.”_
14:44 I get coming up with possible solutions on how to stop her me personally I’d prefer it if Cinder just absorbed her power either curing Salem or assimilating her and cinder can be the final boss while taking care of Salem at the same time.
I get no one likes cinder but my rebuttal is that she’s been an infinitely more active antagonist with the distinction that you can actually punch this one until she’s down.
I can somewhat see cinder absorbing just the Grimm, and thus the cosmic fundamental hate for life out of Salem, that could in all likelihood leave her far more emotionally unstable/vulnerable and thus weak to any final act emotional knockdown drag out bare knuckle smack down beat down the writers could pull, and an embittered cinder somehow stealing Salem’s magic in the last few moments of her life after her curse breaks could lead to a compelling fight scene as cinder progressively learns the full power of ye oldie magiks of yore
14:30 not a theory because I know the writers won’t do it, but I think it’s a fun idea. I always imagined that the fairy tales people were based off of could directly connect to the ever after. If you were to alter the story in the ever after, you could possibly alter the real person, giving team RWBY a way to kill Salem.
Honestly I’ve always kinda thought there’s a SLIGHT (emphasis on slight) possibility of Coco being the summer maiden when we get to vacuo. Mostly just because she always wears those glasses which could theoretically hide whenever she’s using her maiden powers as the eyes are a dead giveaway of who’s the maiden. It would also make a cool mystery of “someone is clearly the summer maiden here but we have no idea who it is and we have to find out soon before Salem figures out herself”.
(Plus I just wanna see coco again outside of supplementary material lol)
Man i love this theory series
Your RWBY theories videos are awesome, Critter! You definitely gotta do more! I could've sworn i once saw a really wild one one Reddit once that basically said Yang was like a Jesus figure for Remnant no joke lol 😂
Hmmm. You know what I just realized? Winter sometimes has silver eyes, and other times she has blue. Is she a silver eyed-
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I'm kidding. My eyes are green, and I'll go through periods where they look silver/gray, and then go back to green. It's an animation error! (In real life) 😂
In my opinion the ozma kids one just can't be true , cause they literally have an entire episode about what he's hiding and it isn't brought up , only the fact he had kids is. Also I genuinely feel it would be incompetent to leave that unanswered for that long of a time, and really don't attribute even more incompentecy to crwby
The thing about the Salem ascending theory is that the brothers' curse to her was "as long as this world turns, you shall walk it's face". So basically, as long as time goes on in Remnant, she can't die nor LEAVE it at all, so she couldn't go to the ever after, drink the tea and ascend somehow. Only if by some miracle someone grabbed a bit of the tree tea and brought it to Remnant for Salem to drink. But...RWBY and Jaune just got out and they Lost their opportunity for it
Less of a theory but more of a head canon of the power system, but Winter and Weiss should be abusing their summon conditions. First on the rare and mega sized Grimm, 100% if I were Weiss during the Kaiju grim fight I would've ran in and gotten the final 1 hp slash on it, because then I can summon it. Same thing with the Armor Gigas setting a precedent for mashing a bunch of possession grim into inanimate objects. If she can summon the entire suit of armor, she can summon a Atlesian Paladin after shoving 20 possession grim in it. That's just me
I do think tyrian saying you do interest me laughing a bit and then saying no to jaune was just a jab on how weak he was
5:15
Wh.. but, it is accounted for? Faunus having night vision is explained all the way back in volume 2.
I had a bizarre theory that ozpin started the great war that he knew the political tension was happening or he was directly responsible so he let it happen so he could create a new world order where he has control it would've made ozpin more shady
I don't think neither Salem or Ozpin can ascend. The curious cat, who was a creation from the two brothers, said he can't ascend, so according to RWBY, any creation from two brothers can't ascend. Salem and Ozpin got their gifts from the two brothers, so I have my doubts they are able to ascend.
I believe in the first few volumes, blake said that faunus can see in the dark
well yes, but that wouldn't be the case if tyrian actually had issues with his sight, hence why the scene is mentioned by critter as one that disproves the theory
Ok this is one of my crazy theories that I just came up with so hear me out……. What of Summer ascended? Now we still don’t know what happened to Summer so what if she went to the ever after and died then she chose to ascend. But now that I’m really thinking it through it really doesn’t explain Summers grave in Patch but it does explained why her weapon who be there so it’s somewhat possible. Plus if Summer chose to ascend then that means she could be with her family again. But then again if you ascend we have the memory loss thing but also maybe u can chose to keep your memories, but that’s only if u don’t chose to ascend? I don’t know ascending is very confusing and I do t know why the CRWBY didn’t simply it or something. But I think this is still kinda sort of possible but I don’t think it’s really gonna happen though. It’s still good for au though so there’s that.
I think tyrian is blind but might be tuning his ears to metallic sounds. It does seem to be the case when he does fight.
Good video, I really enjoyed it. My favorites definitely had to be Winter dies her hair and your Oscar ascension theory. Honestly one theory I'm surprised didn't make it is the Fria is Nora's grandmother theory that was so popular in Volume 7.
I personally will throw out two theories.
1. This is an old one that I used to have and I don't know if it was popular or anything. But I remember back after Qrow told his creation story, I thought for sure that Salem and Ozma were the brother gods but inhabiting human bodies for some reason. I thought that rhe God of Creation, believing in the process of life and death, shared bodies with the hosts to allow them to be chosen/live their lives. But the God of Darkness was not into that and just kept the same woman tortured and alive for thousands upon thousands of years and that's how the two have been having this war.
2. The show will end with Salem gathering the relics and the Gods showing up. Seeing that humanity is divided, they follow up on their promise to wipe it out and do so. But the Tree is the one that intervenes and stops the gods from destroying humanity. I call it Tree Ex Machima. It's something I don't exactly like but expect to happen.
I used to have this weird theory that Raven was the first to know of Summer's death. It's more of a baseless headcanon than anything, but the line of thought was that the connection that Raven's semblance grants her when she forms a bond with someone not only allows her to create portals, but also grants her additional powers like being able to sense people's state of being to a degree, and sense impending danger, keeping up with the theme of omens.
I think that when Summer died, her bond with her was severed and she knew something bad happened immediately. I have no proof for this, just headcanon.
Whenever Yang was close to dying, she was always there to intercept the final blow of her attacker. I also always found it convenient that Raven only ever appeared in the first 3 volumes when Yang was either in a sketchy situation or in some sort of danger. You can say that Raven was just always watching Yang in her own protective way, but I like to think there were times where Raven was doing her own thing and just had some form of pseudo precognition telling her that a loved one was in danger, and she would make it a priority to ensure Yang's safety whenever it kicked in.
Yeah, I know there's some holes in it, but like I said, it was just a weird headcanon/theory.
I subscribe to the fact Ozpin's children are the first incarnations of the maidens. Their magical powers were obviously passed on from salem and ozpin (or whatever incarnation he was at the time). Since everyone else had to use dust, this family was the only magic-weilding family
BUT
what strengthens it for me, is the maiden powers, fundementally, continue on to the next person, almost like the magic powers reincarnate, which is an ability Ozpin has. So I think somehow that magic & curse/trait merged from salem and oz and made it so the magic passes on once the maiden dies.
Furthermore I think the initial fairy tale is just one that eventually became warped or padded out as tales do for generations. The overall narrative of 'old man (form of ozpin) bestows 4 maidens their powers' to me is a rough rendition of, 'old man creates / fathers 4 magical daughters.'
Thats my take on it anyway 😊
My theory since volume 7 with revealing Salem to the world was Salem would ironically become the thing that unites the people and saves them from the brother’s judgment when/if she does get all of the relics to summon them. She is banking on the humans failing thus the brothers ending everything (also herself in theory). I like the piece of Oscar and Ozma being separated which could be a moment before the brothers being summoned. Salem could be shook for a moment seeing the true Ozma being back and Ozma, being a flawed character, wanting Salem to ascend so they can go back to simply living together until death (callback to the warning of him not finding comfort where he wants to) where a big moment can be Ozma saying “Let. Us. Rest.” (Calling back to the god of light telling Salem to “let him rest” when Ozma originally died)with Salem again showing her petty and selfish side by simply saying “no” like how she whispered to herself before going to the god of darkness and killing him.
I thought maybe they would trap Salem in the everafter somehow, but idk. The cat is still alive so maybe he can do something. But this seems rather weak. It just feels like CRWBY is gonna make a happy ever after ending for Ozma and Salem, to which your theory of ascending Oscar and Ozma could stand.
The cat has been erased by the jabberwalker so nothing to bring back.
The tyrian being blind might actually be kinda boosch because alot of people forget about it even the creators from time to time but faunus have superior eyesight and can see in the dark
Correction: Most Faunus have near-perfect vision in the dark. Not all.
@@SaiyanGamer95 yeah my bad I meant superior to humans
Yeah Critter's right the Salem Ascends theory is a lot of legwork that; while I do like the theory, I don't think will ever happen, but man do I feel like an idiot for not thinking about putting Ozpin and Oscar in there.
I had a full blown back and forth with some loon on Twitter over the Headcannon of Tyrian being blind, they assumed it was fact and others are just too dumb to see it.
As I watched the ozpin backstory episode, I assumed he had just made up the other story to keep his real life more private. It WAS his past life where he gave 4 sisters powers, he just left out that it was by having kids that he gave them magic powers.
I think this is less of a theory and more like unclear lore that could be interpreted in 2 completely different ways 😅
I have a theory. Ruby is the summer maiden.
Remember when Ruby sneezed on Weiss? She accidentally breathe fire. But her semblance is the rose petal thing. So if she’s able to shoot fire, that could mean one thing.
The fire was from the fire dust leaking out of the dust bottle Weiss was waving around.
Wait are people not aware that we were already told how to get rid of Salems immortality? I mean we were told in the exact same episode it was introduced.
Seriously, isn't it kinda obvious that they're likely going to make Ruby de-grimm Salem with her silver eyes and come back via her immortality so she can then be taught the "balance between life and death" in what'll most likely be a talk-no-jutsu style scene? A whole "victory is in a smaller soul" thing that ties in with Salem's prior monologuing about how there's no victory in mere strength? Summer probably left to try and kill Salem with her silver eyes (because she didn't know about Salem's immortality and thought she could destroy her like a normal Grimm) and but got defeated.
@@Tundra0stalker exactly my thoughts, Salem was not a good person but she was still capable of love and caring, but it was her jumping into the pool of Grimm that made her a monster. It seems really obvious that Ruby is gonna be able to degrimmify her and just as the god of light said "Finally rest after you learn the importance of life and death". Im imagining its also gonna be the send off for Ozma as well and im sure its going to be a mixture of him, Oscar, and Ruby that are gonna finally stop Salem.
@@DevilSlayr I mean, even *as* a Grimm she (as far as we know, as shown in the show) was just a "witch" that lived in the woods by herself until she met Ozma again. She fell genuinely back in love with him as soon as they saw each other again. She only wanted to become ruler of Remnant and replace the 2nd humanity with her and Ozma's descendants because of her prior beef with the Gods, even if it was possibly influenced by her being Grimm. If her motivation really is to destroy the world so she can try and truly die (which is just an assumption on our part, and I hope it isn't her endgame because that's kinda' boring imo and not thought out well at all on Salem's part for several reasons) that's a very *human* motivation.
On the topic on Tyrian being interested in Jaune, I see Tyrian not reading Jaune's semblance, but rather reading Jaune's aura. With Tyrian's semblance, I can't help but expect he has an affinity for reading other's aura levels and activation, allowing him to use his semblance properly. Since we know Jaune has a very strong and thick Aura, I can imagine Tyrian maybe was intrigued about the thickness and quality of his aura.
On the maiden theory, I follow your version completely. It explains one crucial factor between the daughters are maiden and maidens are maidens theory: Oz's magic supply. We have been given no other explanation on Oz's dwindling magic supply other than the maiden story, and so I can't help but believe Oz in it. I think if it were untrue it would have been mentioned already.
On the final suggestion about Oscar/Ozma being ascended, I think its highly unlikely because if the writers had wanted to do that, they would have done it in Volume Nine. I don't see our heroine's returning to the Ever After again for such trivial things. The only thing I hope for from the Ever After is a possible Neo return. I would love for her ascend, see her ways and be mended [I still want her mute though], and return to Remnant to fight Cinder/Salem for the final battle. I don't think it'll happen, at least without reason, but I would love to see a happier end for her besides just ascendence.
I feel like it’s just Tyrian being like: “who does this bitch think they are using sword and board in this day and age. The audacity both frightens and intrigues me.”
Oh I almost forgot. Oz carried the souls of his dead daughters with him and infused them into the maidens because they asked him to. They pooled all four's spellcasting power then divided it by their elemental essences. But in this state his daughters slumber. If you break the magic of the spring maidens something terrible will happen so even Salem doesnt dare touch the magic. Also she might have a shred of humanity in her.
The Old theory that Raven killed Summer is looking like it might be true. Only difference is that Summer may have asked her to rather than end up like the hound.
Either she killed her or left her for dead in Salem's realm for Salem to turn her into her favorite flying monkey (or a wheeler monkey from Return to Oz, since she IS the Wicked Witch of the West).
My current theory is that Tyrion found Jaune interesting due to their apposing semblances, since Tryion can disrupt aura and Jaune can boost them, I have no idea how Tryion is able to tell that, but it could be similar to Ren's awakening. I do not trust CRWBY to have thought that far ahead though
I think how Blake had a book that was based on Oscar and Ozpin named the man with to souls I think it will go to the next book, the man with four souls so in that I think ozma, Ozpin, Oscar, and some others person will have to share a body
My favorite RWBY fan theories have always been the ones that would be SO cool if implemented in the show, but in reality are only a result of lazy/reused designs, like the theory that Yatsuhashi was the white fang general from the train and secretly a Faunus because they had the same body type, or the famous theory that Mercury had silver eyes but wasn’t telling anyone for some reason
3 years is crazy
I’ve always thought emerald was gonna be a maiden the summer maiden. They talk about how she’s from vacuo and we have seen a lot of emerald thoughts and feelings throughout all the volumes. Also honestly I just don’t think any of the main girls will ever get the power, it stays just adjacent too them raven and winter.
I also thought Emerald would become the next maiden after volume 5 because Cinder is such a boring character, sadly I've accepted that Cinder is not allowed to die and I hate it. Also regarding Salem we all know the rules of Shonen writing dictate that the main villain is defeated with the power of teamwork and love and all that jazz
I think Cinder's only allowed to die when Ruby is strong enough to do it herself, and/or she's only allowed to die if Salem gets tired of her OR Emerald has her "redeeming myself by defeating my evil stepmom!" moment.
Explaining the massacre:
He's a psycho murderer who only cares about Salem and her orders so ke just swung randomly since careless killing won't bother him a milometer large explosive movements in a crowded room with only a handful of people with weapons or combat experience and them caring about bystanders and so can't move and attack as freely in a crowded space with bystanders it will be a harvest for him.
Explaining the slow walk
He might have had a mild concussion from an aura infused punch to the face twice conducted through his rings and wanting to be more careful about going into close quarters with him again until he had a similar experience to Inosake from Demon Slayer in that thinking things through isn't his style snapped back by the audible noise from Qrow's rings and weapon.
And we've seen how good Qrow is is aura manipulation particularly in offensively skills like the Aura Arc and while Aura helps recover damage quickly it's not always automatic especially when someone doesn't place training into that and Tyrian seems to enjoy pain on both sides of the blade so he likely wouldn't place much training in defense so Qrow might get through enough to give him a concussion without aura but with a little aura defenses making it mild and I've been in a few fights even none concussive head hits still works for stunning and hesitation even briefly.
its probably too late for this theory and someone else probably made it up before i did but here we go!, what if the entire story of rwby is actually in ruby's head as a coping mechanism for losing her mother, it'd explain why some things are bad writing but its just a theory and there's not really any proof i think what made me think of it was the theory that the walking dead story was just a dream in ricks coma at the start :P