It sucks that I have to reupload this video again!!! I know it's frustrating as a viewer to go through this but it's equally as frustrating as the creator to deal with copyright that takes the whole video. It's like a game of whack-a-mole with all these copyright issues, but I won't let my hard work go the waste!
Nice vid, even if: -Androids stopped being given fake memories after A2's squadron got rekt -Luciferase exist irl, and the fact that it wards off WCS was discovered on accident
did you keep the "pdf file" word in the dod1 segment? idk if that's a thing you'd want to keep in a video if you want to get it monetised but there's probably more idk
Up until now, I kept thinking of all the philosophical messages and lessons of the story. Then, I saw this comment. ... ... And now I can't unsee it. XD
"Hey Nier, if you kill the Shadow Lord you and everyone else in the world will contract the black scrawl and die horribly." There, I created another timeline.
@@kaineandrews3790I imagine it would only delay the Inevitable even if humanity was recompleted and they set aside their differences ("Doubtful") I also imagine that this new humanity might not be fertile, also I'd expect that they might gain magic from this recompletion(their powers from being a shade I assume would Persist) ultimately even if humanity is recompleted and is able to reproduce I doubt the flowers influence would disappear so easily, and then theirs the aliens which even if we give humanity "magic" in their recompletion I find it Doubtful the "aliens" would lose. And even if humanity is able to begin rebuilding itself I can imagine the flower or god/gods doing something like reaching out to Nier and offering them a pact after they find out the truth that theirs no saving yonah (my guess is it would be something like Zeros experience with the flower either making yonah the flowers vessel in exchange for niers existence similar to what he did in order to save Kaine or Nier would become a Vessel with the power to revive yonah at the cost of breaking himself and yonah into intoners(shade Nier, replicant neir, Daddy Nier(the older version of the protagonist), yonah's shade, and replicant yonah, gives us another 5 intoners and we can add a 6 if we add the true Nier (the personalities and memories of both sides of Nier combined) which could eventually become a zero like figure being forced to kill yonah to destroy the flower (I imagine if he was in that situation he'd rather destroy all humanity and thats what I'd predict the outcome to be). Alternatively we could explore the angle of just after the shadow lord and Nier complete themselves Kaine kills them (for example she was in the middle of going in for an attack when this happens) and regrets it having seen the two merge into one and simultaneously having experienced that unification whilst going in for the attack and then gets killed(likely by self for accidentally killing Nier) and ends up resurrected by the flower in a similar deal to tyrans in exchange for her continuing to kill and losing her ability to feel love and attachment it will resurrect her loved ones with Kaine eventually coming to realise the flowers intentions and having to kill her loved ones including yonah ultimately I imagine this would probably be her worst ending. This is just me exploring possibilities.
Things would have gone so much better if Grimoire Noir didn't act like a cartoonishly evil villain for literally no reason, despite having a noble purpose
Except NieR *did* know that and still killed the Shadow Lord. That's his sin, he knew it would bring the end of the world and humanity but he didn't care, he only wanted to save his Yonah. And tbh, Shadow Lord gave up the moment his Yonah gave back the body and basically went to heaven. He would've been a vegetable and the black scrawl would continue to kill everyone. Pretty short sighted but that's our hero for ya, lol. So, when you look at it, Shadow Lord's Yonah doomed humanity by yeeting out of there from guilt. And Shadow Lord doomed himself by stealing NieR's Yonah because he was getting worried about time running out. Humanity was doomed from the start because they bet everything on kids who couldn't live without each other.
Its hard not to feel for the guy. On the 7th day you rest. And next thing you know, theres blood barf semen body parts pollution an ideological differences everywhere.
That’s something I didn’t get from the Clemps videos. I love those videos, they got me into this entire franchise, but it’s awesome this video filled even more context in. The God blighting is something I totally missed from Drakengard
I gotta hand it to you, compiling the timeline of arguably one of the most confusing RPG mythos ever created is not an easy feat to accomplish. The amount of time it took for you to make this must've been exhausting, so congratulations on your hard work! 6 hours of lore is exactly what I needed to watch for this week with work being absolute hell.
The detail about kid Nier having to sell himself in order to get money for Yonah's medicine for some reason really stunned me. It was genuinely jarring and made me actually feel bad for this video game character. Maybe because it's a story that could very possibly be happening in the real world even as of right now. I'm not sure, but it is information that genuinely had my jaw hit the floor in disbelief.
The most interesting part about Red and Black is that the original scenario writer wanted to make it darker. It was originally such a dark story that Yoko Taro himself had to tone it down. (Yoko Taro outlined the short stories in Grimoire Nier, but they also had a scenario writer). Originally, it was going to have a bit about Nier being unable to sit down for a few days after… O_o
@gaspastrike Omg. I'm kind of glad they toned it down. I feel like proper handling of that kind of topic would be extremely hard to execute properly. Better to cut it than potentially mishandle such a serious theme..
Stuff like that is why I preferred Brother NieR over Father NieR. Brother NieR really went through the ringer to provide for Yonah when he was just a kid himself
@@gaspastrike Funny that's what it took for Taro to jump in when there's established lore with Kaine banging a dead corpse when she was a teen... oh, and I believe she did it in front of their sister, too?
The machines having the same shape, design, and consistent head of Emil is something I never noticed - what an incredible piece of visual storytelling. Really tugs at my heart that all machines could have been based off of him.
@@idontplaygames3k296 I mean the higher end would have been the flower finding how / mutating to adapt to non-organic lifeform and absolutely wrecking havoc once more
I think the point of the story is that humanity _IS_ the androids. Because they're human regardless of what their bodies are made of, which is what the story was trying to convey. They also are strongly implied to have some degree of human biology in their construction as well. Most likely in the brain, especially.
I doubt that is it. Humanity seemed to have quite a few ways to create immortal beings between Emil, the Grimoires and the Gestalt Project, it's just that the main system that was shown in the story (so far) has been the failed Gestalt Project. There could easily be some dudes that created their own secret bunker that never got touched by the Red Legion or the aliens, or a separate group that blasted off into space, or guys who used Maso to start world-hopping or just a secret third sibling of Emil that never got activated being kept in stasis somewhere. Hell, for all we know, the machines in the Night Kingdom might have researched bioengineering and recreated original humans in a lab.
And the one managing the moon server, and the quantum server on earth, which is still operational even after Kainé's encounter with it... This video is missing everything we learn from Nier ReIncarnation
@@FhtagnCthulhu Thank the lord for Saito, man. What an absolute homie. Yoko Taro probably would've given up after Drakengard 1 if Saito didn't force him to keep going. In an interview I believe he even said once that if he, Saito, didn't get Yoko to keep developing games the guy would've just starved himself to death from no work. Look at him now, though. Love those two
Just had a lightbulb lore moment. In Drakengard 2, Legna mentioned an ancient war between the dragons and God/the watchers, and that the dragons were the natural enemy of the Watchers and things associated with them, i.e. the Flower. This is the the same war that occured between humanity and the aliens in Nier's backstory. Cathedral City was the headquarters of the Human war effort, and these humans created the dragons to specifically combat the aliens, with the Flower being one of their weapons. The aliens are described as being plant-like. Maybe the aliens were just another form of the Watchers sent by God to destroy mankind, and their weapon was the flower. Humanity, in Cathedral city, creates the dragons to defeat the flower, and they warred with the flower/Watchers for centuries until the event that sent Cathedral City to Drakengard's world in 856. The humans were advanced and knew about the multiple timelines, which is why they made Accord. After they captured the Flower, they probably tried to uses some technomagic to attempt to send it through time to oblivion, but screwed up and sent the city, the dragons, and the flower to 856 AD in another dimension.
You know, i wonder what if this entire series is just a cycle of one timeline doing some fucked up shit, influencing another timeline and just repeating over and over, not being a loop of only 2 timelines? For exemple, in an unseen timeline some event happened that sent Cathedral City/Dragons/Black flower to the Drakengard timeline, then the Drakengard timeline sent the Queen Beast/Angelus/Caim to the Nier timeline and next we will have another timeline where something bad will be sent from the Nier timeline?
@@angeltzepesh1 What if the memories of all the machines sent at the end of Nier Automata IS what is sent from this timeline to a new one. Idk how that could be a curse for the new timeline but it could be infected. I'm just wildly speculating.
One problem: humans were extinct soon after Nier (~4000), and they were essentially inactive and only existed as Gestalts after ~2100. So it would have had to be Replicants (unlikely) or androids (much more likely) to create dragons, build Cathedral city, and make Accord.
@@theshadowherself Or maybe some Replicants united themselves and became Human again, then went to the Dark Side of the Earth and started to think of "how do we stop this cycle that got 99.9% of us dead". That means that they could have gone to the route of making everything and sending it through time, but it diverged to space and time, which lead them to another timeline instead of their own. All of that can mean that the Cathedral city can go somewhere else in the universe, another place, another franchise, another part which can simply change the outcome of everything, but it all will depend on their different outlook on Human nature. Accord being there, an android, it could be a part of something bigger. Something that makes sure all timelines are in one real path that leads to at least ONE timeline 2 be triumphant.
I have studied the lore and timeline of this universe so much, and I still got way too excited to see a video over 6 hours long about it. Thank you for doing this! My favorite rabbit hole to keep diving into.
I am astounded by the amount of work that must have gone into this. I love DrakenNieR lore so much, and I don't think I've ever seen such a complete video chronicle of the timeline. I appreciate this work so much! I hope to see more when NieR Re[in]carnation's stories can be included as well!
@@MrandMrsGameplay Well, I mean, my donation was me saying thanks for putting so much work into something that entertained me for over 6 hrs. It would be like if you did something for someone and then they say "Thank you!" and then you say "Thank you!" and then it goes round and round. Lol! 😅 I just hope that the financial gratitude helps them to continue to be motivated to make this sort of content 😊💗
@cecimaree video was amazing i enjoyed it and watched the whole thing. You foing that as well generated alot of revenue for him, then you donated on top of that.. he could've at least said, "Glad you enjoyed it." Not saying he needed to thank you, but he could've at least acknowledged it. I feel that it's rude he didn't.
Man, Nier spent 1200 years waiting for Yonah to be cure and resurrected, and when she woke up she completely made his 1200 years effort turned to smoke because of some other girl is sad. now she's dead, her brother is dead, and humanity is also dead.
@@gangatalishis wait what am I remembering this wrong? Humanity technically was still "alive" as Shades, waiting to be rejoined to their human bodies. So they weren't fully dead either, only after Nier basically ruined everything (not his fault though ngl) and thus the project came to an end unfinished. Unless there's some information I forgot about, please fill me in!
@@Ekklesia2680 yeah they were still alive until Yonah woke up and made the shadow lord lost all hope, after the original Yonah woke up and died, the shadow lord who is the anchor for humanity's last chance of survival gave up fighting, at this point, whether he can beat the replicant or not no longer matter. His goal is lost and he no longer want to live.
Long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit and I want to show my appreciation for you making this video. The Nier series is a series I adore so, so much and this video is the exact thing I needed to scratch my Nier itch. It took me about four days to finish the video but after seeing clips of Drakengard in the end made me want to rewatch the video. Also, Automata's ending will never fail to make me teary eyed.
Previously i knew absolutely nothing about the nier series, but as you so fittingly put it; "long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit" as well. I'm also one to tear up and occasionally sob over a video essay should i find something particularly touching/moving, and i can definitely say that happened multiple times throughout the essay. It's just the tragedy of it all
Long form lore videos are my absolute shit too - I just wish they were easier to find! Usually it's just a case of hope they come across my recommended :') This was incredible though!
As quirky as Yoko Taro is, it is absolutely inspiring how he's been able to *physically manifest these masterpieces* . I, too, want to share my ideas with the world like him.
Read all of his manga, and ngl his work is beyond quirky, like its really friggin dark, like even if it was a manga for a mobile game about fairy tale characters turned into anime tropes, like my dumba55 thought it was just gonna be the average normal gacha game like fate, but he11 nah my man just went full on raep on all the characters, like tbh everything he makes has raep or some form of it, its certainly uncomfortable to read but I can't stop reading it, not to mention it always have short haired girls in it, just Yoko Taro subtly telling people his fetish
@Trap Himawari lol, wow I had no idea. "The author's thinly veiled fetish" meme must be accurate😅. Still I admire his grindset, and Automata saved his franchise
I hope you know he is not the only one who writes the stories of the Drakengard franchise. Nier Replicant/Gestalt for example were written by 3 people.
Square Enix: How complex do you want your universe to- Yoko Taro: *YES* Square Enix: *laughs* No but seriously. Yoko Taro: Did I stutter? Also they have the genetic data of the whole mankind theoretically stocked, they could litterally recreate it. Don't you dare tell me that between the Gestalt project's failure and the alien invasion they wouldn't have time to do this.
That's essentially what they were doing with the yorHa androids before Nine went crazy and ruined everything. In a lot of ways, the yorHa androids *are* the new humans.
With the destruction of the network at the end of Automata, the Android on Earth have the time to build up and fetch that moon info again. The YorHa was only one piece of the Android lifespan, so they should be able to survive just as well as they did before the alien invasion and the creation of YorHa. There could be a future game with both 2B and human clones
After having played Nier Replicant and getting lost down the rabbit hole of the Wiki, I commend you for the titanic effort to gather so many sources into a coherent timeline! Simply outstanding! Thank you!
Yeah, I had a good idea of how Nier 1 (lazy) tied into 2, but this cleared up the parts where I'd go "not sure why this, but this is the result". Led to a funny interaction when 2 came out actually. 2 was the one that most people started with and a lot of people didn't even know it was 2. So when the store clerk was describing it to me, about how the androids are trying to save humanity, I went "but wait, I'm pretty sure humans were doomed in 1". He had no idea, so anyone how played 1 already new the "big" secret about humans already haha .
@@IKMcGweeyeah my friend is trying to keep me in the dark about automata now that I'm going through it but she didn't play replicant so she has no idea it's already known
This story is ALOT darker than I had orginally knew and now it makes a lot more sense but it's still equally confusing and interesting and I enjoy this alot, Thank You
Yeah the range of the story is what makes it the most confusing. On paper the simple explanation of man and God/monster jump to another earth in another universe while fighting, man beats god/monster. Remains of the god/monster doom humanity, fast forward thousands of years and the only thing remaining is nature and advanced AI. Semi simple explanation. But you expand on it and start talking about watchers being giant floating babies, seeds of destruction, red eye disease, and then project gestalt, gestalt/replicant system, androids and machines having emotions and being just like humans, logic virus being linked to the red eye disease. It's just a really confusing course of transformation/metamorphosis that the franchise goes through, but it makes sense. The most confusing stuff is the crossover stuff of drakengard, but once you understand the basic idea of it, it's not horrible to grasp.
I think it's more on the duality of the two most popular franchise. The Final Fantasy games usually tell a narative of heroes fighting against the odds and winning saving the world and giving hope. Meanwhile, the Drakengard/NieR series is a heavily dark contrast of how everyone dies at the end, so enjoy it while it last type of narrative.
Also they have strong anti-violence themes. Every playable character in these games enacts pervasive violence, and the world always ends up worse off for it.
When I first played NieR Automata the only thing in my mind was "I'm going to play this game about a hot robot killing things". I wasn't even that interested in the game and I definitely wasn't prepared for what was comming, specially for what pod 042 said at 06:22:12. Now I have all the achievements on Steam, watched a six hour video about the lore of all games and I am also planning a tatoo on my left arm. One thing (that I think) you didn't mention is the amount of references of NieR Replicant in NieR Automata. If you only played Automata a lot of things will go unnoticed, but if you played Replicant before Automata, you will see Yoko Taro playing with your feelings from the beggining. Thanks for the video, I'm going to subscribe so I can see more videos like this.
I personally like to think A2 just left Pascal alone (which is something you can do). Robots always fail and never learn from their mistakes because they never GET to learn. Pascal has to learn from this to grow.
@@DanKaschel That's what I did, and I can fully confirm that. If I knew it would've been so horrible I would've just killed him on the spot (since by then I didn't know you could just leave).
I love games that have a long running lore across different titles, which is why I love stories that have references, Easter eggs, cameos, and intertwined timeline/storylines. Having NieR be the first game series I played that has all of this, I've been seeking lore videos since I've only played automata and replicant. But with this, you've filled the void I had for the rest of the lore I didn't know. Now I want to play the drakengard games
@Astral52 Do it. I started the first game in the Trails series almost 2 years ago. I'm wrapping up game 9 right now (which is as many that are localized). Single greatest video game franchise story of all time. An amazing experience. I think you'll love them. That said, this video is a fantastic format for a similarly deep and convoluted story. Great work!!
Love how NieR has been the greatest symbol of subversion of expectations. Every side thinks they're right, but when you peel the layers you learn it's what leads them to doom.
So good. I think it a story that really needs to be played for the full impact. Playing NieR it is so easy to accept the story you are told and fall into NieR's sense of righteousness. When you learn the truth, you the player are being betrayed as well.
That’s what I love about the NieR franchise as a whole the main characters that we love aren’t essentially “the good guys” even if they might view themselves that way and are flawed individuals, it just makes them feel more real.
Man this is probably my favorite video on RUclips LOL. I've just casually been going through it like 10 minutes at a time while I eat but often end up just sitting there listening for longer and longer. So much great lore in these games.
Even after playing the games twice, this series still brings a tear to my eye. Yoko Taro has without a doubt delivered one of the most emotional pieces of media in history. The fact that you went through the work to make this video is a blessing. Thank you for clearing up my favorite story in media.
I absolutely love the craziness of this series and appreciate the fact you took the time to piece this all together. I do have a theory about Red Eye being Caim and it’s simple; Angelus didn’t die. Dragons have a last wish. If she used it to save herself the Japanese may have recovered her while she was still weak and only declared that they had a dragon corpse. A corpse is far less scary a prospect than a living dragon after all.
I feel like the dragons lose their wish to make a pact, as losing the most precious thing is the cost. And it seems like the wish thing wasn't canon yet during the first Drakengard game, since it would invalidate the reason for a pact with the protagonist.
@@brightwallmusic2908 Michael and Zero were never pact partners. Zero made a pact with Mikhail at the very end of her story, because the dragon wasn't going to use his Last Wish to reincarnate, but it was very brief because they died together.
I just love automatas ending E, the fact that the pods the things farthest from acting/looking or interested in humans are the ones who got closest to what makes us human special, hope and the will to fight against great odds. They became the closest to what encompasses the best of us
And in Drakengard 3, Zero was always betrayed by humans, but in the end succeeds thanks to disciples, an android, and a dragon who were totally loyal to her and had her back and even sacrificed themselves to help her ❤ The only people she ever smiled at in her whole life other than men in the brothel - probably - were Decadus and Mikhail, and she would have smiled at Octa too, if it were possible. And Accords interference with the timeline is akin the the player (you) interfering with the timeline in the ending E credits 🥳
2:11:35 The brother version of the character is actually the original, from the Replicant version of the game released only in Japan. They changed it to Dad Nier for the international release (Nier Gestalt in Japan) because the higherups at Squeenix didn't think Bro Nier would be very popular in the West.
damn. this was absolutely one of the best summaries of the entire drakenier story i've seen. i thought i pretty much knew everything but i still learnt a few things and on top of that it was super fun to listen to because it was so clear and well laid out! from someone who is very passionate about this story, thanks for making this!
Yea, I can keep up with my friend's knowledge about the series Because I hate the style the games are in ( it feels like it plays like 2003 generic jrpg ) and I was never going to play any of the games, outside possibly maybe drakengard for the watchers. The watchers are creepy, but very interesting. The watchers and the music are the only reasons that I have any interest in this series at all because the music that I found out in ff14, is godtier. Otherwise, it's Yoko Taro trying to be an emo edgelord trying to destroy everything because he hates happy endings does not sit well with me.
Just finished the video and I have to say this was an amazing way to view the story, I can tell the amount of work that was put into this video and I truly think it paid off.
Now all we need is a lore summary of Nier Reincarnation, which unfortuantely barely has any videos talking about it on youtube. I heard a few theories and the lore seems to get even crazier
@Ezekiel_Johnson No, not really. If you look at it as a repeating loop, then Cathedral City would just be made of extremely advanced tech that the people of the time would perceive as magic. And it's where most of it comes from.
@@Ultra04channel I see it more as a bootstrap paradox with magic as the item that exists in the timeloop. Where did the darksiders get their magic? From the drakengard universe. Where did cathedral city come from? The nier universe. Even if it was the case that magic is technically some kind of technology incomprehensible to us, there's still the progress from blatantly magic-y looking magic of Nier 1 to Nier Automata's applied magic technology.
@Ezekiel_Johnson Honestly, either theory works just as well. But it's Yoko Taro, so we'll never have a clear answer. I guess my reasoning for it all being technology, is that it makes the most sense in the loop. Cathedral City is extremely advanced, nearly incomprehensible technology, with two androids designed to protect a bioweapon from being unleashed. The reason I would say for the more magic looking stuff in earlier games, is that it could be even more anomalous and unknown. It's been modified by people who have no idea what they're actually modifying. Think of it like the Mechanicus. The reason why their stuff looks so medieval and antiquated, yet is so advanced, is because they're modifying it and changing it while having no idea what's actually going on.
Just wanted to say, I’ve listened to this video essay at least a half dozen times all the way through and countless times in part while falling asleep, doing homework, etc. Your way of storytelling, along with Yoko Taro’s sheer madness, have made my objectively favorite video on RUclips. So, thank you!
Haven’t listened to it as much but i definitely agree. Something about the fact he talks like some parts are side stories just to bring them up as core media makes it entertaining to no end.
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
Quite accurate actually. From the POV of the star everything would be perfectly normal, it's from outside that we'd see the star disappear into the event horizon.
Jesus, I am a big NieR fan, and I started a couple years ago, and trust me when I say this, there's still a lot to learn, and this video can literally guide and aid all the fans out there! Thank you for putting this up for the world to see what a masterpiece Yoko Taro has brought upon this world.
i have been obsessed with Drakengard lore for years but im still so excited to see a 6 hour long lore video on it! thank you for this! Though i think in Zero's Novella, she did say that she lived with a man once after she escaped the brothel but ultimately betrayed her due to her sickness, that may be the influence for Two's personality.
I love the massive amount of easter eggs throughout the games. The 6 doves at the end of nier automata, when A2 is seen resting, reminded me of Zero and her sisters. I wonder if that was done on purpose and if there's any greater meaning behind it, or just a silly little reference.
I think its kinda awesome Yoko Taro keeps adding to the lore. Like adding Reincarnations protagonist to the Red Eye lore was such a surprise. Also glad my footage of the story could be of use.
Just a correction, Nier Replicant the version with the young protagonist IS the original version that released in japan for the ps3, Nier Gestalt is an alternate version with an older protagonist, this was made because they thought it would be favorable for non-japanese audiences, Nier Replicant ver.12247... is a remaster released globally without any changes to the original protagonist.
@@vin4679 Keep in mind it was brother-sister first, it was changed to father-daughter when it released to western audiences. They just changed it back to the original brother-sister for the remaster
This entire video was phenomenal and I cannot BEGIN to imagine how hellish editing this was let alone exporting it 😭😭😭 sending this to every Nier fan I know!!! Thank you for all the effort put into piecing everything together into something coherent and understandable!!
Yknow, as emotional as all of Nier was and even parts of Drakengard The saddest part of the entire series for me is Hullua's situation. She just wanted to protect her brother, even after becoming a monster. I'm just glad we put her out of her misery in Replicant, and I'm glad Emil was able to come to terms with it all.
I mean I assume she is still "alive" similar to how Tyraaan is in Kaine, she is also a passenger in the body she shares with her brother. At least, I think Yokotaro should gave Emil a mental partner which would probably have helped as he was splitting into his clones during the alien war.
The only word I can use to describe this series is: wow. Excellent video - it must've taken an insane amount of time to compile and present these details with the eloquence in which you did. Hats off to you, EruptionFang; you've gotten a new subscriber.
One note about replicant Nier's encounter with Kaine at the beginning. She doesn't attack. She tells him and Weiss to get lost. It's Nier who attacks, thinking she's a shade. In the game, if you don't attack her, she just stands there guarding. She never attacks first. EDIT: Just realized I only played ver 1.22. Maybe it's different in the original? But even after the first fight with Hook, Nier apologizes for attacking her.
Another things I realised during route E: the very first shades you ever find after the prologue... aren't hostile. If you stand there they won't attack you (I think even if you wack them they won't try to fight back).
@@EnrocaLaRoca It's like that from the beginning. The shades never actually attack you. It isn't until you go around killing a lot of them do they fight back. And you'll notice as the game progress they eventually begin to weaponize themselves and slowly put on more and more armor to protect themselves. Also, you're hinted what they really are early on from what they drop. Stuff like clothing, and school books. It's also the same for NieR Automata. The robots are mostly docile at the beginning and don't attack you aside from some rare ones. I bet most people don't even know that when you first enter the Amusement aArk, everyone is friendly. My friend sure didn't. Most people probably never put 9S on passive, lol
Love this guided timeline. Thank you. In case anyone didn't know, NIER were always siblings. In Japan it was NIER Replicant as siblings and they didn't think the Western audience would get it and changed their version to Gestalt with it being a dad, daughter. When they did the remake, they remade it from the original which were siblings, so nothing got changed really in terms of the relationship of the main character and his sister. Also if I remember only the true ending was in Replicant right?
The mistake I see a lot of people are making is that NIER deals with cycles not loops. Nier Gestalt did happen but 100 years before Nier Replicant, it's a cycle a repeated event with few differences (think WWI and WWII). Like how the anime is a cycle of the game. Note at Ending E the game is finished, you have killed the Yorha (god) project and have ended the cycle. Also if you read the bible you can see some links and influences that were pulled from there as well. (The 2nd coming was the groestque queen, the god of drakengard world), food for thought.
@@luckydannumber2 Bro you need to get a basic education before you start talking lmfao. WW2 isn't a 'repetition' of WW1 just because it has a 2 on the end. Automata also isn't cyclical aside from 9S dying and being repaired. Everything happens once. 9S dying and being brought back does not lead to repeating any missions or events aside from his death which happens in different ways each time.
When i first played nier i had no idea the lore expanded across multiple games and manga andvarious other media, what a fantastic treat, and a beautifully comprised comprehensive guide.
This story is so incredible and has so many dark elements to it, with so many twist and turns. I cant imagine the work it took to understand everything and try to make sense of it all to make it into a video, thank you for your hard work. This story is fundamentally painful and sad, so much sacrifice with very little if not nothing in return.
Like many, I only played Nier Automata. I paused this video after the 5 hour mark to allow myself to digest everything I just heard. Thru the previous game titles, the mangas, the stage plays; I'm left flabbergasted that there is so much more lore. SO MUCH MORE LORE than I thought existed. Absolutely incredible. And yes, I am now inspired to go and consume each piece of this universe on my own.
I can't even imagine the amount of research, writing and editing that went into this. Man, NieR is *HEAVY*. Glad I played automata and replicant before watching though. I can now appreciate the Drankengard connections throughout NieR!
It took me several days to get through all of this, and in the end I'm just stunned. The story saddened me in a way I did not expect, but ended in a more hopeful note then I could have predicted. On the side of the video itself, you did an incredible job. 6 and a half hours of Lore is an impressive feat across multiple installments, and here you are putting it out all at once. You absolute mad lad. Well done.
I've played through drakengard 1 and 3, nier gestalt, nier replicant and Automata multiple times. I thought I had a good grasp on the chronology but you have just blown my mind with this video. I am so impressed with how concisely and clearly you tackled this huge undertaking, I've listened to others try to do it over the years but no one comes close to your level of understanding and ability to convey that through a commentary. It's very impressive. Thank you for taking the time to put this out there, I hope it inspires and has inspired people to go and play the games for themselves because they are so worth it! The Drakengard/Nier storyline is a piece of art, Automata is one of the most incredible experiences gaming has to offer. I love it so much, the emotional journey it takes the player on, it's questioning psychological perspective. It can be so bleak (almost depressing) and yet there is a great deal of beauty to it too. The relationships between Nier, Kaine, Emil, Popola and Devola and then 2B, 9S and A2 give the player moments of warmth too. I can't express how much Nier means to me but thank you again for doing this. It has been really fun listening to the story with such clarity.
I mean...Accord herself confirms that all Branches still go on even after she abandons one for another. So in a way, Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is canon because it leads off from the main Drakengard 3 timeline, similar to how Drakengard 2 leads off from Drakengard's Ending A. However, like Drakengard 2 with Nier Replicant, Branch D contradicts the events of the original Drakengard because the Flower is gone for good, which means the Watchers no longer exist, which means that the Grotesquerie Queen's absence keeps both the Drakengard world and the Nier world safe. Tldr: Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is indeed canon, but it is not canon to the timeline that culminates into Nier Automata.
Yep, all the happier or more "wrapped-up" endings/branches are never the canon ones. Maybe canon isn't the right word though. The branches are canon, but just as that, timeline branches, in which they don't effect one another, but still happen simultaneously, and one is just the longest told continuity. The only thing that truly isn't canon is dod2, not that it matters, it might as well be too in that sense.
The work put into this is honestly astounding. You also somehow managed to make a 6 1/2 hour video very entertaining and easy to understand. Just incredible work tbh.
You told this story so coherent and beautifully that I watched this video twice. It feels like this entered my list of top tier story games and I've never touched one of the games.
Really well made video. Honestly the result of this Nier & Drakengard recap is waaay better than I expected. Just to add on a little note: the factory in Nier: Automata is in fact the same factory where P-33 was created. This is proven by the pod assigned to 9S when you visit this location while on his playtrough.
It’d be awesome if you could make a video someday that includes Emil’s Recollection (showing what happened to Emil in Automata) and Nier Reincarnation content. Nier Reincarnation’s main story is a sequel to Automata, taking place in the human server on the moon, and has deep ties to Replicant Ending E and the Much Too Silent A Deep Sea short story. It’s absolutely crucial for this content to be covered because people don’t realize “Nier 3” already happened in a mobile gacha game and is no longer playable, so they have no way of knowing what happened in the story unless they watch a RUclips playthrough. Reincarnation side stories for Yuzuki, Hina also reveal Yuzuki and Hina being Hamelin Soldiers fighting Legions in the Nier timeline, in which Yuzuki becomes the last Red Eye and both he and Hina are transported to Midgard after Hina uses an experimental device on him to protect him from extermination, and Kali (Gestalt Kainé’s grandmother) is credited for defeating the last Red Eye. Noelle’s story is also in the Nier timeline in which she is a clone of an experimental subject injected with Angelus’s cells in some project called the One Winged Project by some unknown human organization to fight what are presumably Legions.
Timeline-wise Noelle clones can't be fighting Legion, the official chronology states Eleanor was found by Androids by 5980, her EX Story also doesn't provides any illustrations to what were they fighting so it's a big mystery by now Also Yuzuki wasn't going to be exterminated but used on experiments, at that point she thought him dead as he have his heart to save Hina
I can't fathom how much time, effort and passion went into making this, but I'm so glad it exists. The NieR series is truly special and this video highlighted a lot of why so many people think that, and does a great job covering parts of the story/stories that many people likely miss out on. I will say, though, I'm a bit surprised the presence of Emil in Automata didn't come up beyond the initial war! I guess it isn't really important to the cannon for YorHa and 2B/9S, but it does put an end to his story.
The sheer amount of effort required to produce this is so immense. My hat is off to you and i look forward to more of ur thoughts and deductions in the future if u choose to provide them.
I have numerous friends who are obsessed with these two series' lore for a long time, and I only ever had little glimpses of it here and there without much context. So from the perspective of someone with only surface-level knowledge of this lore, I want to say from the bottom of my heart: this was a phenomenal video, and I hope you're proud. I already had a lot of respect for Yoko Taro and his stories BEFORE knowing almost any of this stuff, but I can't stress enough how much more I appreciate these stories after this. Thank you for your work!!!
Fantastic job on creating this video, people say that short videos are nowadays trend because they're easier to enjoy since they're quicker to get to the point and all, but man i love this long timelines explanation ones. Initially i was gonna watch just a bit, ended up watching the hole thing at once. Purely perfection.
Incredible work, as an avid lover of this series as a whole, its always so awesome to see someone dive head first in and explain what's going on and honestly, you did such a good job. I'm sorry you've had to re upload this 3 times all i can say is thank you for your hard work!
It's kinda refreshing how such epic story doesn't really have happy endings. In modern times, full of "good hero saves the world and wins the day" type of stories, having these epic tales of depression, sadness and misery is really interesting.
There are zero "good heroes save the world" stories anymore. We're all depressed now and you have to be a delusional person to think otherwise completely incapable of living in the world today.
I think they're a reflection of the viewer. I find them all really positive and wonderful. I've seen multiple people say they wanted to end it all, but found the power to go on living thanks to Nier Automata
I finally finished the games and thus the video. You're very well spoken, and I never got tired of listening to this video. I must have replayed the first half three times already
this is very well made. thank you. the presentation is great, the storytelling is great, and i like that it still goes over some details, unlike most timelines that would just go over important events without getting into the characters involved and stuff. of course those kinds of timelines are also great, but its nice to have the option to get more detail without having to go through a ton of content and trying to figure out the order and stuff.
Your video made me apricate the series as a whole even more. Your tone of voice, editing, footage selection, script writing, research and audio selection all culminated into a fantastic video from beginning to end and I was never bored for a single second of this 6+ hour video. Be very proud of what you made here and know that your efforts from small to large we're seen as well as apricated. Thank you for making an amazing video.
I'm 40+ now, and the Nier Series ist only the second one that I can think of. The first one was Xenosaga, also very epic and philosophical, but not as dark.
Great content, I really like the more non linear approach of detailing side specific stories, then explaining the main scenario with the additional context. Really helps to provide a full understanding of the story.
Was about 3 hours into this video the other day before it went, so relieved that its here again to finish watching it. Subbed in case it happens again for I will always go back to listen to this beautiful story. Thank you for all your hard work in putting this together, the most detailed timeline of the story I have ever seen
I want to thank you deeply for making such a long and detailed video of the masterpiece that is NieR. Almost 6 and half hours of such detailed explanations of each and every timeline and their characters and stories. Wonderfully done. I can't imagine how much time it took you to do this whole video.
It doesn`t matter that everything is designed to end huh. One of the most detailed and most intriguing videos on youtube, really absorbed me with the story telling and amount of details put in. It must`ve took so, so, so much time to make this video. And here i am finishing this in almost 1 sitting. Absoultely loved it. Nier universe is one of the saddest and most beautifull storiest that i`ve ever heard or played thru. It`s so surprising, the amount of connections and story between the games, and you put it all together perfectly. Will always be my favorite game, and most definetelly, story. Well, besides, we are perpetually trapped in a never ending spiral of life and death.
This is the only game I've ever felt compelled to learn the entire lore of. I didn't realize it spanned two decades and so many different forms, be it games, plays, anime, etc. Absolutely superb video. I played through all of Automata's campaign in a matter of days and I just couldn't drop it so I had to look up more about it and have it all properly explained. To take two decades worth of story and condense it into a video that's easy to follow is great work. Nier is up there with my favorite video game stories now.
actually insane video dude, idk how you do what you do. I originally watched your zombies timeline video forever ago and loved it, but when i stumbled upon your channel again the other day i noticed this video and i could not have been more thrilled. the amount of time it must take for you to research all this information, compile it together, write an INSANELY long script, and personally narrate everything, i have an insane level of respect for your dedications to videos. nier is probably one of my favorite rpg stories ever and you absolutely did it justice in this video. there were a lot of things in here that i never actually knew lol. thanks so much for this video, i know myself and lots of other people really appreciate it.
I remember being a wee little me playing Drakengard for the first time at the age of 11 playing on my older brothers ps2 and just being absolutely transfixed by how gory and amazing Caim and Angelus were. And it's so amazing seeing how Yoko Taro continued to keep the series going in such an unexpected way with Nier and Automata. Love the video, man!
And I thought Sophie's summary was long... though i suppose that video is gone now. Incredibly well done, i might say this is the most comprehensive coverage of this absurd tale. Yoko Taro is an absolute mad man and we love him for it.
@@Miriam_J_ Anyone care to say who Sophie is? People will find this comment years from now, and you can't expect them to all be the same age as you and remember
I appreciate this video a lot. The Drakengard stuff was quite hard for me to follow as I never played the games nor have seen gameplay, but it helps add some really interesting context to NieR events. Thanks for the video
I have loved this series since Drakengard. You put so much love into this video, and it shows. So much so, I now have to play through the games chronologically after the amazing story you've summarized
It sucks that I have to reupload this video again!!! I know it's frustrating as a viewer to go through this but it's equally as frustrating as the creator to deal with copyright that takes the whole video. It's like a game of whack-a-mole with all these copyright issues, but I won't let my hard work go the waste!
Nice vid, even if:
-Androids stopped being given fake memories after A2's squadron got rekt
-Luciferase exist irl, and the fact that it wards off WCS was discovered on accident
Third time the charm! Appreciate the effort
No worries bud. Amazing video nonetheless
did you keep the "pdf file" word in the dod1 segment? idk if that's a thing you'd want to keep in a video if you want to get it monetised but there's probably more idk
Here we go again
Yoko Taro be like: I will add a crusial part of my story's lore on this promotional pamphlet that will be used only once
That's like most the lore tbh
Dude added lore to PCs
"And will only be distributed in Japan 😉"
For 1 hour only and it's only part 1 of that part of the lore if you want part 2 you need to go play a random mmo
You're joking right ? 🤕
DrakenNier's timeline is essentially the embodiment of the phrase: "And then it got worse."
Up until now, I kept thinking of all the philosophical messages and lessons of the story. Then, I saw this comment.
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And now I can't unsee it. XD
Very basic Japanese storytelling.
And at the same time, of the hope needed to go through this
lol
Something went wrong and something that wasn't supposed to happen, happened. That's basically it all
"Hey Nier, if you kill the Shadow Lord you and everyone else in the world will contract the black scrawl and die horribly." There, I created another timeline.
Man, Accord is gonna be *so* cheesed off… 🤣
@@kaineandrews3790I imagine it would only delay the Inevitable even if humanity was recompleted and they set aside their differences ("Doubtful") I also imagine that this new humanity might not be fertile, also I'd expect that they might gain magic from this recompletion(their powers from being a shade I assume would Persist) ultimately even if humanity is recompleted and is able to reproduce I doubt the flowers influence would disappear so easily, and then theirs the aliens which even if we give humanity "magic" in their recompletion I find it Doubtful the "aliens" would lose.
And even if humanity is able to begin rebuilding itself I can imagine the flower or god/gods doing something like reaching out to Nier and offering them a pact after they find out the truth that theirs no saving yonah (my guess is it would be something like Zeros experience with the flower either making yonah the flowers vessel in exchange for niers existence similar to what he did in order to save Kaine or Nier would become a Vessel with the power to revive yonah at the cost of breaking himself and yonah into intoners(shade Nier, replicant neir, Daddy Nier(the older version of the protagonist), yonah's shade, and replicant yonah, gives us another 5 intoners and we can add a 6 if we add the true Nier (the personalities and memories of both sides of Nier combined) which could eventually become a zero like figure being forced to kill yonah to destroy the flower (I imagine if he was in that situation he'd rather destroy all humanity and thats what I'd predict the outcome to be).
Alternatively we could explore the angle of just after the shadow lord and Nier complete themselves Kaine kills them (for example she was in the middle of going in for an attack when this happens) and regrets it having seen the two merge into one and simultaneously having experienced that unification whilst going in for the attack and then gets killed(likely by self for accidentally killing Nier) and ends up resurrected by the flower in a similar deal to tyrans in exchange for her continuing to kill and losing her ability to feel love and attachment it will resurrect her loved ones with Kaine eventually coming to realise the flowers intentions and having to kill her loved ones including yonah ultimately I imagine this would probably be her worst ending.
This is just me exploring possibilities.
Things would have gone so much better if Grimoire Noir didn't act like a cartoonishly evil villain for literally no reason, despite having a noble purpose
@@PigeonLord21 I mean, the dude he was literally murdered like 10 people at once.
Except NieR *did* know that and still killed the Shadow Lord. That's his sin, he knew it would bring the end of the world and humanity but he didn't care, he only wanted to save his Yonah. And tbh, Shadow Lord gave up the moment his Yonah gave back the body and basically went to heaven. He would've been a vegetable and the black scrawl would continue to kill everyone. Pretty short sighted but that's our hero for ya, lol.
So, when you look at it, Shadow Lord's Yonah doomed humanity by yeeting out of there from guilt. And Shadow Lord doomed himself by stealing NieR's Yonah because he was getting worried about time running out. Humanity was doomed from the start because they bet everything on kids who couldn't live without each other.
You took roughly 2 decades of material from different sources and simplified it for cavemen like me. I can't thank you enough
And there are still some lore pieces he didn't cover, like Michael knowing Angelus (yes, Caim Dragon)
@@alanalb1449 and, Sinoalice
@@Gabriel-cs6wuSino Alice? The manga??
@@Lubble- both, game and manga
And still missed an entire portion of it given the raids in FFXIV.
I think my favourite thing about this whole series is how God looked at humanity and went “Absolutely not.”
I can't really blame them
Its hard not to feel for the guy. On the 7th day you rest. And next thing you know, theres blood barf semen body parts pollution an ideological differences everywhere.
Self righteous wet dream.
That’s something I didn’t get from the Clemps videos. I love those videos, they got me into this entire franchise, but it’s awesome this video filled even more context in. The God blighting is something I totally missed from Drakengard
@@user-jo8kq5ed4j ........huh?
"so hey, can you explain Drakengard to me real quick ?"
"sure, glad you asked :"
Sorry I kinda clocked out there in the middle can you start again?
@@ar0568total playtime: 4 days, as no one can watch 6,5h straight 😭
6 and a half hours later and im still confused
@@ianbeasley2092 well good luck because this the most understandable explaination of Nier/Drakengard on youtube 💀
just a quick video before the bed
Embrace the long
@@25meip *shlong
37 mins of sleep is how you know your a King
don't call me out lmao
Me being shocked when I notice the sunrise outside my window after telling myself "A quick video before bed" 😂😭
I gotta hand it to you, compiling the timeline of arguably one of the most confusing RPG mythos ever created is not an easy feat to accomplish. The amount of time it took for you to make this must've been exhausting, so congratulations on your hard work! 6 hours of lore is exactly what I needed to watch for this week with work being absolute hell.
eh? I can follow this far easier than that mess called Kingdom Hearts.
@@Zeiss120 did you not read the ‘one of’ implying one of several?
@@lightaspected yeah I did, and pointed out that it's is lesser and easier to follow than another ONE of them with convoluted wack ass story telling.
@@Zeiss120 Good for you! Your elevated senses must make your family proud.
Lol skins a bit thin with you kids these days.
The detail about kid Nier having to sell himself in order to get money for Yonah's medicine for some reason really stunned me. It was genuinely jarring and made me actually feel bad for this video game character. Maybe because it's a story that could very possibly be happening in the real world even as of right now. I'm not sure, but it is information that genuinely had my jaw hit the floor in disbelief.
The most interesting part about Red and Black is that the original scenario writer wanted to make it darker. It was originally such a dark story that Yoko Taro himself had to tone it down. (Yoko Taro outlined the short stories in Grimoire Nier, but they also had a scenario writer). Originally, it was going to have a bit about Nier being unable to sit down for a few days after… O_o
@gaspastrike Omg. I'm kind of glad they toned it down. I feel like proper handling of that kind of topic would be extremely hard to execute properly. Better to cut it than potentially mishandle such a serious theme..
@@A2kisses Hate to break it to you, but it is absolutely going on all the time all around the world, and has been for a very long time.
Stuff like that is why I preferred Brother NieR over Father NieR. Brother NieR really went through the ringer to provide for Yonah when he was just a kid himself
@@gaspastrike Funny that's what it took for Taro to jump in when there's established lore with Kaine banging a dead corpse when she was a teen... oh, and I believe she did it in front of their sister, too?
Emil is the last existing essence of humanity in the Nier world. He is the only hope.
That is probably the most Ironic part about the Lore
Right? The last "human" is literally a immortal skelington who now has almost no memory of the rest of us
He died btw
@@johnmills9954 He what now?
@@johnmills9954 Did he Die in Automata?
The machines having the same shape, design, and consistent head of Emil is something I never noticed - what an incredible piece of visual storytelling. Really tugs at my heart that all machines could have been based off of him.
I noticed that below the shell they have a machine smile too. So they're absolutely replicating Emil.
@@Utrilus yeah, I watched the anime today and that really stood out to me at the end of the second episode. It helps explain how they eat as well
For the Aliens to decide to imitate Emil and his lower level magic, honestly, is a testament to how strong he was during that war.
I never realized that, I wouldn’t think the aliens would try n copy Emil but it also makes sense to copy those who’re strong
@@idontplaygames3k296 I mean the higher end would have been the flower finding how / mutating to adapt to non-organic lifeform and absolutely wrecking havoc once more
I think draken/Nier is the only series that will make me watch a whole 6hr long video from start to finish. Excellent work! I have been enlightened
I’m definitely watching this soon. But there’s a guy that ranted about pl_badwater_basin for 12 HOURS!!! I watched the whole thing in one sitting……
And with reincarnation finished and the newest nier concert, yeah we can duplicate the time here
@@alrox9760 just waiting for this guy to make an update video for that again 😭
Berserk: may i introduce myself * 24-hour long in-depth breakdown of the story*
Crazy how All thats left oh humanity is a server on the moon and an immortal replicant Emil who's lost his memories.
I think the point of the story is that humanity _IS_ the androids. Because they're human regardless of what their bodies are made of, which is what the story was trying to convey. They also are strongly implied to have some degree of human biology in their construction as well. Most likely in the brain, especially.
The Emil's left behind on Earth isn't even the original, they're just clones used for the war against the Aliens
I doubt that is it. Humanity seemed to have quite a few ways to create immortal beings between Emil, the Grimoires and the Gestalt Project, it's just that the main system that was shown in the story (so far) has been the failed Gestalt Project. There could easily be some dudes that created their own secret bunker that never got touched by the Red Legion or the aliens, or a separate group that blasted off into space, or guys who used Maso to start world-hopping or just a secret third sibling of Emil that never got activated being kept in stasis somewhere.
Hell, for all we know, the machines in the Night Kingdom might have researched bioengineering and recreated original humans in a lab.
And the one managing the moon server, and the quantum server on earth, which is still operational even after Kainé's encounter with it... This video is missing everything we learn from Nier ReIncarnation
@@Koushakurdo you know a good vid / have a good explnation that ties into this vid since the game is unplayable now
The sheer dedication Yoko Taro had to keep pushing these games out despite all the odds and Square Enix is something truly worthy of admiration
Huge props to Yosuke Saito for fighting for it too.
@@FhtagnCthulhu Indeed
@@FhtagnCthulhu Thank the lord for Saito, man. What an absolute homie. Yoko Taro probably would've given up after Drakengard 1 if Saito didn't force him to keep going. In an interview I believe he even said once that if he, Saito, didn't get Yoko to keep developing games the guy would've just starved himself to death from no work. Look at him now, though. Love those two
Just had a lightbulb lore moment.
In Drakengard 2, Legna mentioned an ancient war between the dragons and God/the watchers, and that the dragons were the natural enemy of the Watchers and things associated with them, i.e. the Flower.
This is the the same war that occured between humanity and the aliens in Nier's backstory. Cathedral City was the headquarters of the Human war effort, and these humans created the dragons to specifically combat the aliens, with the Flower being one of their weapons.
The aliens are described as being plant-like. Maybe the aliens were just another form of the Watchers sent by God to destroy mankind, and their weapon was the flower. Humanity, in Cathedral city, creates the dragons to defeat the flower, and they warred with the flower/Watchers for centuries until the event that sent Cathedral City to Drakengard's world in 856.
The humans were advanced and knew about the multiple timelines, which is why they made Accord. After they captured the Flower, they probably tried to uses some technomagic to attempt to send it through time to oblivion, but screwed up and sent the city, the dragons, and the flower to 856 AD in another dimension.
You know, i wonder what if this entire series is just a cycle of one timeline doing some fucked up shit, influencing another timeline and just repeating over and over, not being a loop of only 2 timelines? For exemple, in an unseen timeline some event happened that sent Cathedral City/Dragons/Black flower to the Drakengard timeline, then the Drakengard timeline sent the Queen Beast/Angelus/Caim to the Nier timeline and next we will have another timeline where something bad will be sent from the Nier timeline?
@@angeltzepesh1 What if the memories of all the machines sent at the end of Nier Automata IS what is sent from this timeline to a new one. Idk how that could be a curse for the new timeline but it could be infected. I'm just wildly speculating.
@@JoseGonzalez-mx3nx it could be, but my bet is we gonna finally learn more about the Kingdom of the Night, something still so ambiguous in the lore.
One problem: humans were extinct soon after Nier (~4000), and they were essentially inactive and only existed as Gestalts after ~2100. So it would have had to be Replicants (unlikely) or androids (much more likely) to create dragons, build Cathedral city, and make Accord.
@@theshadowherself Or maybe some Replicants united themselves and became Human again, then went to the Dark Side of the Earth and started to think of "how do we stop this cycle that got 99.9% of us dead". That means that they could have gone to the route of making everything and sending it through time, but it diverged to space and time, which lead them to another timeline instead of their own. All of that can mean that the Cathedral city can go somewhere else in the universe, another place, another franchise, another part which can simply change the outcome of everything, but it all will depend on their different outlook on Human nature. Accord being there, an android, it could be a part of something bigger. Something that makes sure all timelines are in one real path that leads to at least ONE timeline 2 be triumphant.
I have studied the lore and timeline of this universe so much, and I still got way too excited to see a video over 6 hours long about it. Thank you for doing this! My favorite rabbit hole to keep diving into.
Can I ask you some stuff if you know all the lore?
Seriously.. Yoko Taro is a mad genius..
I am astounded by the amount of work that must have gone into this. I love DrakenNieR lore so much, and I don't think I've ever seen such a complete video chronicle of the timeline. I appreciate this work so much! I hope to see more when NieR Re[in]carnation's stories can be included as well!
You are so nice for this! And he’s amazing at these videos
You're an awesome person!
Creator doesnt even respond to a 25$ donation? Wtf?
@@MrandMrsGameplay Well, I mean, my donation was me saying thanks for putting so much work into something that entertained me for over 6 hrs. It would be like if you did something for someone and then they say "Thank you!" and then you say "Thank you!" and then it goes round and round. Lol! 😅 I just hope that the financial gratitude helps them to continue to be motivated to make this sort of content 😊💗
@cecimaree video was amazing i enjoyed it and watched the whole thing. You foing that as well generated alot of revenue for him, then you donated on top of that.. he could've at least said, "Glad you enjoyed it." Not saying he needed to thank you, but he could've at least acknowledged it. I feel that it's rude he didn't.
Man, Nier spent 1200 years waiting for Yonah to be cure and resurrected, and when she woke up she completely made his 1200 years effort turned to smoke because of some other girl is sad. now she's dead, her brother is dead, and humanity is also dead.
Humanity was already dead and the project failed once the other grim was destroyed.
@@gangatalishis wait what am I remembering this wrong? Humanity technically was still "alive" as Shades, waiting to be rejoined to their human bodies. So they weren't fully dead either, only after Nier basically ruined everything (not his fault though ngl) and thus the project came to an end unfinished. Unless there's some information I forgot about, please fill me in!
@@Ekklesia2680 yeah they were still alive until Yonah woke up and made the shadow lord lost all hope, after the original Yonah woke up and died, the shadow lord who is the anchor for humanity's last chance of survival gave up fighting, at this point, whether he can beat the replicant or not no longer matter. His goal is lost and he no longer want to live.
And everyone should've caught the Black Scrawl soon after the Shadowlord died...
Black scraw was a over time thing so some of the replicants would've lasted a while.
Long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit and I want to show my appreciation for you making this video. The Nier series is a series I adore so, so much and this video is the exact thing I needed to scratch my Nier itch. It took me about four days to finish the video but after seeing clips of Drakengard in the end made me want to rewatch the video. Also, Automata's ending will never fail to make me teary eyed.
I searched for a similar video two months ago and found nothing. Glad we finally have an end-all be-all version to understand this series.
Seriously, I can only rewatch the Clemps videos so many time (the limit of which has not been reached yet!)
Still to this day no other game or series can make me feel like how nier automata has both throughout the game and in its ending.
Previously i knew absolutely nothing about the nier series, but as you so fittingly put it; "long-form lore videos spanning multiple medias are my absolute shit" as well. I'm also one to tear up and occasionally sob over a video essay should i find something particularly touching/moving, and i can definitely say that happened multiple times throughout the essay. It's just the tragedy of it all
Long form lore videos are my absolute shit too - I just wish they were easier to find! Usually it's just a case of hope they come across my recommended :') This was incredible though!
As quirky as Yoko Taro is, it is absolutely inspiring how he's been able to *physically manifest these masterpieces* . I, too, want to share my ideas with the world like him.
Read all of his manga, and ngl his work is beyond quirky, like its really friggin dark, like even if it was a manga for a mobile game about fairy tale characters turned into anime tropes, like my dumba55 thought it was just gonna be the average normal gacha game like fate, but he11 nah my man just went full on raep on all the characters, like tbh everything he makes has raep or some form of it, its certainly uncomfortable to read but I can't stop reading it, not to mention it always have short haired girls in it, just Yoko Taro subtly telling people his fetish
@Trap Himawari lol, wow I had no idea. "The author's thinly veiled fetish" meme must be accurate😅. Still I admire his grindset, and Automata saved his franchise
@@traphimawari7760 I don't know, I haven't dived into everything by him but so far it all seems more like trauma management than sharing a fetish.
You can do it!
I hope you know he is not the only one who writes the stories of the Drakengard franchise. Nier Replicant/Gestalt for example were written by 3 people.
Square Enix: How complex do you want your universe to-
Yoko Taro: *YES*
Square Enix: *laughs* No but seriously.
Yoko Taro: Did I stutter?
Also they have the genetic data of the whole mankind theoretically stocked, they could litterally recreate it. Don't you dare tell me that between the Gestalt project's failure and the alien invasion they wouldn't have time to do this.
That's essentially what they were doing with the yorHa androids before Nine went crazy and ruined everything. In a lot of ways, the yorHa androids *are* the new humans.
With the destruction of the network at the end of Automata, the Android on Earth have the time to build up and fetch that moon info again. The YorHa was only one piece of the Android lifespan, so they should be able to survive just as well as they did before the alien invasion and the creation of YorHa.
There could be a future game with both 2B and human clones
After having played Nier Replicant and getting lost down the rabbit hole of the Wiki, I commend you for the titanic effort to gather so many sources into a coherent timeline! Simply outstanding! Thank you!
Yeah, I had a good idea of how Nier 1 (lazy) tied into 2, but this cleared up the parts where I'd go "not sure why this, but this is the result".
Led to a funny interaction when 2 came out actually. 2 was the one that most people started with and a lot of people didn't even know it was 2. So when the store clerk was describing it to me, about how the androids are trying to save humanity, I went "but wait, I'm pretty sure humans were doomed in 1". He had no idea, so anyone how played 1 already new the "big" secret about humans already haha .
@@IKMcGweeyeah my friend is trying to keep me in the dark about automata now that I'm going through it but she didn't play replicant so she has no idea it's already known
@@Crowens hahaha nice
This story is ALOT darker than I had orginally knew and now it makes a lot more sense but it's still equally confusing and interesting and I enjoy this alot, Thank You
Yeah the range of the story is what makes it the most confusing.
On paper the simple explanation of man and God/monster jump to another earth in another universe while fighting, man beats god/monster. Remains of the god/monster doom humanity, fast forward thousands of years and the only thing remaining is nature and advanced AI.
Semi simple explanation. But you expand on it and start talking about watchers being giant floating babies, seeds of destruction, red eye disease, and then project gestalt, gestalt/replicant system, androids and machines having emotions and being just like humans, logic virus being linked to the red eye disease.
It's just a really confusing course of transformation/metamorphosis that the franchise goes through, but it makes sense. The most confusing stuff is the crossover stuff of drakengard, but once you understand the basic idea of it, it's not horrible to grasp.
Playing Nier Replicant really made me question my thoughts on mortality.
I think it's more on the duality of the two most popular franchise. The Final Fantasy games usually tell a narative of heroes fighting against the odds and winning saving the world and giving hope. Meanwhile, the Drakengard/NieR series is a heavily dark contrast of how everyone dies at the end, so enjoy it while it last type of narrative.
Also they have strong anti-violence themes. Every playable character in these games enacts pervasive violence, and the world always ends up worse off for it.
This is my 3rd time coming back to watch the video im terrified it gets taken down. I feel like I'm understanding the DaVinci code
When I first played NieR Automata the only thing in my mind was "I'm going to play this game about a hot robot killing things". I wasn't even that interested in the game and I definitely wasn't prepared for what was comming, specially for what pod 042 said at 06:22:12. Now I have all the achievements on Steam, watched a six hour video about the lore of all games and I am also planning a tatoo on my left arm.
One thing (that I think) you didn't mention is the amount of references of NieR Replicant in NieR Automata. If you only played Automata a lot of things will go unnoticed, but if you played Replicant before Automata, you will see Yoko Taro playing with your feelings from the beggining. Thanks for the video, I'm going to subscribe so I can see more videos like this.
The complete, unabridged, no nonsense, no alternate ending, no filler timeline
*6 and a half hours long*
Love it!
Hey if we can sit through 4 hours of justice league, this seems like a cakewalk in comparison 😂
@@ayaxmcgill635except this story is functional and enjoyable unlike the justice league movie 😂
I personally like to think A2 just left Pascal alone (which is something you can do). Robots always fail and never learn from their mistakes because they never GET to learn. Pascal has to learn from this to grow.
Like humans
Erasing pascal's memories is legit the worst outcome
@@DanKaschel That's what I did, and I can fully confirm that. If I knew it would've been so horrible I would've just killed him on the spot (since by then I didn't know you could just leave).
@@EnrocaLaRoca I can't bring myself to leave. Just feels so cowardly haha
@@EnrocaLaRoca Doesn't pascal commit suicide if you just leave?
Only Yoko Taro could possibly connect dragons, alternate timeline, God, androids, aliens, magic, and machines into one universe
it’s fuckin genius.
The man is a true auteur. I absolutely adore him. He’s a better storyteller than Kojima in my opinion.
Suda51:
I love games that have a long running lore across different titles, which is why I love stories that have references, Easter eggs, cameos, and intertwined timeline/storylines. Having NieR be the first game series I played that has all of this, I've been seeking lore videos since I've only played automata and replicant. But with this, you've filled the void I had for the rest of the lore I didn't know. Now I want to play the drakengard games
Also man, reuploading sucks but it's worth watching every time
I assume you tried the "legend of heroes" games?
@@Hydus not yet, but if it comes to that then I'll have to pull a Gigguk and play every single one of them someday
Have fun in Drakengard 1 king
@Astral52 Do it. I started the first game in the Trails series almost 2 years ago. I'm wrapping up game 9 right now (which is as many that are localized). Single greatest video game franchise story of all time. An amazing experience. I think you'll love them.
That said, this video is a fantastic format for a similarly deep and convoluted story. Great work!!
Love how NieR has been the greatest symbol of subversion of expectations. Every side thinks they're right, but when you peel the layers you learn it's what leads them to doom.
Being a hero, but without the plot armor which make all the trials worth it.
So good. I think it a story that really needs to be played for the full impact. Playing NieR it is so easy to accept the story you are told and fall into NieR's sense of righteousness. When you learn the truth, you the player are being betrayed as well.
That’s what I love about the NieR franchise as a whole the main characters that we love aren’t essentially “the good guys” even if they might view themselves that way and are flawed individuals, it just makes them feel more real.
Man this is probably my favorite video on RUclips LOL. I've just casually been going through it like 10 minutes at a time while I eat but often end up just sitting there listening for longer and longer. So much great lore in these games.
Even after playing the games twice, this series still brings a tear to my eye. Yoko Taro has without a doubt delivered one of the most emotional pieces of media in history. The fact that you went through the work to make this video is a blessing. Thank you for clearing up my favorite story in media.
a tear? this game makes me cry rivers every time i play it
@@Kokonut73238I don’t event need to be playing it to cry. I just think of Kainé/Salvation and tears immediately well up. ITS TOO DAMN GOOD
Yo Reincarnation ending just dropped, time to get back on the lore!
Yo i got a theory I want to run on you. That every game is set in the Cage
I absolutely love the craziness of this series and appreciate the fact you took the time to piece this all together.
I do have a theory about Red Eye being Caim and it’s simple; Angelus didn’t die. Dragons have a last wish. If she used it to save herself the Japanese may have recovered her while she was still weak and only declared that they had a dragon corpse. A corpse is far less scary a prospect than a living dragon after all.
I feel like the dragons lose their wish to make a pact, as losing the most precious thing is the cost. And it seems like the wish thing wasn't canon yet during the first Drakengard game, since it would invalidate the reason for a pact with the protagonist.
@@Utrilus Wasn't this stated otherwise with Michael into Mikhail during his time with Zero?
@@brightwallmusic2908 Michael and Zero were never pact partners. Zero made a pact with Mikhail at the very end of her story, because the dragon wasn't going to use his Last Wish to reincarnate, but it was very brief because they died together.
I just love automatas ending E, the fact that the pods the things farthest from acting/looking or interested in humans are the ones who got closest to what makes us human special, hope and the will to fight against great odds. They became the closest to what encompasses the best of us
And in Drakengard 3, Zero was always betrayed by humans, but in the end succeeds thanks to disciples, an android, and a dragon who were totally loyal to her and had her back and even sacrificed themselves to help her ❤ The only people she ever smiled at in her whole life other than men in the brothel - probably - were Decadus and Mikhail, and she would have smiled at Octa too, if it were possible. And Accords interference with the timeline is akin the the player (you) interfering with the timeline in the ending E credits 🥳
Mmm tasty word salad
2:11:35 The brother version of the character is actually the original, from the Replicant version of the game released only in Japan. They changed it to Dad Nier for the international release (Nier Gestalt in Japan) because the higherups at Squeenix didn't think Bro Nier would be very popular in the West.
damn. this was absolutely one of the best summaries of the entire drakenier story i've seen. i thought i pretty much knew everything but i still learnt a few things and on top of that it was super fun to listen to because it was so clear and well laid out! from someone who is very passionate about this story, thanks for making this!
Hi! Can you recommend other videos, articles etc similar to this one that you think are good? Thanks in advance
Yea, I can keep up with my friend's knowledge about the series
Because I hate the style the games are in ( it feels like it plays like 2003 generic jrpg ) and I was never going to play any of the games, outside possibly maybe drakengard for the watchers. The watchers are creepy, but very interesting.
The watchers and the music are the only reasons that I have any interest in this series at all because the music that I found out in ff14, is godtier.
Otherwise, it's Yoko Taro trying to be an emo edgelord trying to destroy everything because he hates happy endings does not sit well with me.
@@HackersSun Yoko Taro actually loves happy endings
Just finished the video and I have to say this was an amazing way to view the story, I can tell the amount of work that was put into this video and I truly think it paid off.
Now all we need is a lore summary of Nier Reincarnation, which unfortuantely barely has any videos talking about it on youtube.
I heard a few theories and the lore seems to get even crazier
I really hope now that the game is done, someone compiles all the lore somehow
I found a Video that summarizes the Important Lore of Reincarnation.
"NieR:Reincarnation Summary Video" by TheSamUtari
@@Vania1669thanks!
I wish they would repackage Reincarnation as an offline game and release it
That would be ideal. Make the gacha farmable like in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and boom, the game is offline.
The Nier story really is a combination of "And then it got worse" as well as technology becoming indistinguishable from magic.
More the other way around no? Magic becoming indistinguishable from technology?
I get a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” vibe too.
@Ezekiel_Johnson No, not really. If you look at it as a repeating loop, then Cathedral City would just be made of extremely advanced tech that the people of the time would perceive as magic. And it's where most of it comes from.
@@Ultra04channel I see it more as a bootstrap paradox with magic as the item that exists in the timeloop. Where did the darksiders get their magic? From the drakengard universe. Where did cathedral city come from? The nier universe.
Even if it was the case that magic is technically some kind of technology incomprehensible to us, there's still the progress from blatantly magic-y looking magic of Nier 1 to Nier Automata's applied magic technology.
@Ezekiel_Johnson Honestly, either theory works just as well. But it's Yoko Taro, so we'll never have a clear answer.
I guess my reasoning for it all being technology, is that it makes the most sense in the loop. Cathedral City is extremely advanced, nearly incomprehensible technology, with two androids designed to protect a bioweapon from being unleashed.
The reason I would say for the more magic looking stuff in earlier games, is that it could be even more anomalous and unknown. It's been modified by people who have no idea what they're actually modifying.
Think of it like the Mechanicus. The reason why their stuff looks so medieval and antiquated, yet is so advanced, is because they're modifying it and changing it while having no idea what's actually going on.
Just wanted to say, I’ve listened to this video essay at least a half dozen times all the way through and countless times in part while falling asleep, doing homework, etc.
Your way of storytelling, along with Yoko Taro’s sheer madness, have made my objectively favorite video on RUclips. So, thank you!
Tf ur a psycho
Haven’t listened to it as much but i definitely agree. Something about the fact he talks like some parts are side stories just to bring them up as core media makes it entertaining to no end.
9 mois plus tard, j'ai enfin fini cette vidéo. Bravo pour ce travail, l'une des meilleure vidéo que j'ai vue. Merci !
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
Quite accurate actually. From the POV of the star everything would be perfectly normal, it's from outside that we'd see the star disappear into the event horizon.
@@farfa2937 umm. No. A star approaching a black hole is a very violent process.
Jesus, I am a big NieR fan, and I started a couple years ago, and trust me when I say this, there's still a lot to learn, and this video can literally guide and aid all the fans out there! Thank you for putting this up for the world to see what a masterpiece Yoko Taro has brought upon this world.
i have been obsessed with Drakengard lore for years but im still so excited to see a 6 hour long lore video on it! thank you for this! Though i think in Zero's Novella, she did say that she lived with a man once after she escaped the brothel but ultimately betrayed her due to her sickness, that may be the influence for Two's personality.
I love the massive amount of easter eggs throughout the games. The 6 doves at the end of nier automata, when A2 is seen resting, reminded me of Zero and her sisters. I wonder if that was done on purpose and if there's any greater meaning behind it, or just a silly little reference.
The final boss of the *incredibly lore-important* FF14 crossover event kinda-sorta implies there's a little more to it
Fnuk... if you put it that way...nothing is coincidence :D
Yoko Taro, you glorious bastard...
I also kinda thought it was a nod to either them or the fact all the disciples turn into doves
@@MemoryMoriNaw dude is a mad genius when it comes to world building and story telling.🤯🤯
I DID NOT THINK OF IT THAT WAY! YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING! :O
I think its kinda awesome Yoko Taro keeps adding to the lore. Like adding Reincarnations protagonist to the Red Eye lore was such a surprise. Also glad my footage of the story could be of use.
What??? I need to finish that game 🤔🤔
Just a correction, Nier Replicant the version with the young protagonist IS the original version that released in japan for the ps3, Nier Gestalt is an alternate version with an older protagonist, this was made because they thought it would be favorable for non-japanese audiences, Nier Replicant ver.12247... is a remaster released globally without any changes to the original protagonist.
But it's lame changing a daughter father relationship to a brother sister one, imo
@@vin4679 Keep in mind it was brother-sister first, it was changed to father-daughter when it released to western audiences. They just changed it back to the original brother-sister for the remaster
@@vin4679 while dad Nier is cooler brother Nier is more fitting for the story.
This entire video was phenomenal and I cannot BEGIN to imagine how hellish editing this was let alone exporting it 😭😭😭 sending this to every Nier fan I know!!! Thank you for all the effort put into piecing everything together into something coherent and understandable!!
Yknow, as emotional as all of Nier was and even parts of Drakengard
The saddest part of the entire series for me is Hullua's situation.
She just wanted to protect her brother, even after becoming a monster.
I'm just glad we put her out of her misery in Replicant, and I'm glad Emil was able to come to terms with it all.
I mean I assume she is still "alive" similar to how Tyraaan is in Kaine, she is also a passenger in the body she shares with her brother. At least, I think Yokotaro should gave Emil a mental partner which would probably have helped as he was splitting into his clones during the alien war.
The only word I can use to describe this series is: wow.
Excellent video - it must've taken an insane amount of time to compile and present these details with the eloquence in which you did. Hats off to you, EruptionFang; you've gotten a new subscriber.
One note about replicant Nier's encounter with Kaine at the beginning.
She doesn't attack. She tells him and Weiss to get lost. It's Nier who attacks, thinking she's a shade. In the game, if you don't attack her, she just stands there guarding. She never attacks first.
EDIT: Just realized I only played ver 1.22. Maybe it's different in the original? But even after the first fight with Hook, Nier apologizes for attacking her.
Another things I realised during route E: the very first shades you ever find after the prologue... aren't hostile. If you stand there they won't attack you (I think even if you wack them they won't try to fight back).
@@EnrocaLaRocaSame with Adam in Automata.
@@ceruleanrock2265It's the same when you encounter A2 for the first time, she is passive until you attack
@@EnrocaLaRoca It's like that from the beginning. The shades never actually attack you. It isn't until you go around killing a lot of them do they fight back. And you'll notice as the game progress they eventually begin to weaponize themselves and slowly put on more and more armor to protect themselves. Also, you're hinted what they really are early on from what they drop. Stuff like clothing, and school books. It's also the same for NieR Automata. The robots are mostly docile at the beginning and don't attack you aside from some rare ones. I bet most people don't even know that when you first enter the Amusement aArk, everyone is friendly. My friend sure didn't. Most people probably never put 9S on passive, lol
Love this guided timeline. Thank you. In case anyone didn't know, NIER were always siblings. In Japan it was NIER Replicant as siblings and they didn't think the Western audience would get it and changed their version to Gestalt with it being a dad, daughter. When they did the remake, they remade it from the original which were siblings, so nothing got changed really in terms of the relationship of the main character and his sister. Also if I remember only the true ending was in Replicant right?
The mistake I see a lot of people are making is that NIER deals with cycles not loops. Nier Gestalt did happen but 100 years before Nier Replicant, it's a cycle a repeated event with few differences (think WWI and WWII). Like how the anime is a cycle of the game. Note at Ending E the game is finished, you have killed the Yorha (god) project and have ended the cycle. Also if you read the bible you can see some links and influences that were pulled from there as well. (The 2nd coming was the groestque queen, the god of drakengard world), food for thought.
@@luckydannumber2 Me when I understand history and think ww1 and ww2 are a repeated even with few changes
@@Ezekiel_Allium yeah, talk about a very poor understanding of history
The "true ending" was in Grimoire Nier, and was added to the Replicant remake. It wasn't, to my knowledge, in Gestalt or OG Replicant.
@@luckydannumber2 Bro you need to get a basic education before you start talking lmfao. WW2 isn't a 'repetition' of WW1 just because it has a 2 on the end.
Automata also isn't cyclical aside from 9S dying and being repaired. Everything happens once. 9S dying and being brought back does not lead to repeating any missions or events aside from his death which happens in different ways each time.
I love the fact that 99.99% of this series’ lore is off screen…. I just love that…
When i first played nier i had no idea the lore expanded across multiple games and manga andvarious other media, what a fantastic treat, and a beautifully comprised comprehensive guide.
This story is so incredible and has so many dark elements to it, with so many twist and turns. I cant imagine the work it took to understand everything and try to make sense of it all to make it into a video, thank you for your hard work.
This story is fundamentally painful and sad, so much sacrifice with very little if not nothing in return.
Like many, I only played Nier Automata. I paused this video after the 5 hour mark to allow myself to digest everything I just heard. Thru the previous game titles, the mangas, the stage plays; I'm left flabbergasted that there is so much more lore. SO MUCH MORE LORE than I thought existed. Absolutely incredible. And yes, I am now inspired to go and consume each piece of this universe on my own.
I can't even imagine the amount of research, writing and editing that went into this.
Man, NieR is *HEAVY*. Glad I played automata and replicant before watching though. I can now appreciate the Drankengard connections throughout NieR!
lol the video got privated while I was watching, time to continue
Same here I'm doing the most mundane work and it stopped lmao
same lmao
Bro same and I was about an hour or so to the end like what the hell
Looks like a party in here, mind if I join?
Yoooo
Bravo, for taking the time to make this whole video. It was such an amazing time to learn about the whole DrakenNier world.
It took me several days to get through all of this, and in the end I'm just stunned. The story saddened me in a way I did not expect, but ended in a more hopeful note then I could have predicted. On the side of the video itself, you did an incredible job. 6 and a half hours of Lore is an impressive feat across multiple installments, and here you are putting it out all at once. You absolute mad lad.
Well done.
Was 4h.42 into the vid when you just privetded the other realease, was so scared I wasn't going to be able to finish. Absolute masterpiece, thank you.
your comment just made me realize this video’s 6 hours long 🗿 anything for NieR
i think this is the first youtube video i’ve come back to after multiple days to watch all the way through. thanks my friend. good work.
I've played through drakengard 1 and 3, nier gestalt, nier replicant and Automata multiple times. I thought I had a good grasp on the chronology but you have just blown my mind with this video. I am so impressed with how concisely and clearly you tackled this huge undertaking, I've listened to others try to do it over the years but no one comes close to your level of understanding and ability to convey that through a commentary. It's very impressive. Thank you for taking the time to put this out there, I hope it inspires and has inspired people to go and play the games for themselves because they are so worth it!
The Drakengard/Nier storyline is a piece of art, Automata is one of the most incredible experiences gaming has to offer. I love it so much, the emotional journey it takes the player on, it's questioning psychological perspective. It can be so bleak (almost depressing) and yet there is a great deal of beauty to it too. The relationships between Nier, Kaine, Emil, Popola and Devola and then 2B, 9S and A2 give the player moments of warmth too. I can't express how much Nier means to me but thank you again for doing this. It has been really fun listening to the story with such clarity.
The most Yoko Taro thing about this entire series is that Drakengard 3's best ending is not the canon one.
He really just has to do it to us.
I spent so much time beating that boss...
I mean...Accord herself confirms that all Branches still go on even after she abandons one for another.
So in a way, Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is canon because it leads off from the main Drakengard 3 timeline, similar to how Drakengard 2 leads off from Drakengard's Ending A.
However, like Drakengard 2 with Nier Replicant, Branch D contradicts the events of the original Drakengard because the Flower is gone for good, which means the Watchers no longer exist, which means that the Grotesquerie Queen's absence keeps both the Drakengard world and the Nier world safe.
Tldr: Branch D's existence in the Yokoverse is indeed canon, but it is not canon to the timeline that culminates into Nier Automata.
Yep, all the happier or more "wrapped-up" endings/branches are never the canon ones. Maybe canon isn't the right word though. The branches are canon, but just as that, timeline branches, in which they don't effect one another, but still happen simultaneously, and one is just the longest told continuity. The only thing that truly isn't canon is dod2, not that it matters, it might as well be too in that sense.
The work put into this is honestly astounding. You also somehow managed to make a 6 1/2 hour video very entertaining and easy to understand. Just incredible work tbh.
You told this story so coherent and beautifully that I watched this video twice. It feels like this entered my list of top tier story games and I've never touched one of the games.
Really well made video. Honestly the result of this Nier & Drakengard recap is waaay better than I expected. Just to add on a little note: the factory in Nier: Automata is in fact the same factory where P-33 was created. This is proven by the pod assigned to 9S when you visit this location while on his playtrough.
It’d be awesome if you could make a video someday that includes Emil’s Recollection (showing what happened to Emil in Automata) and Nier Reincarnation content.
Nier Reincarnation’s main story is a sequel to Automata, taking place in the human server on the moon, and has deep ties to Replicant Ending E and the Much Too Silent A Deep Sea short story. It’s absolutely crucial for this content to be covered because people don’t realize “Nier 3” already happened in a mobile gacha game and is no longer playable, so they have no way of knowing what happened in the story unless they watch a RUclips playthrough.
Reincarnation side stories for Yuzuki, Hina also reveal Yuzuki and Hina being Hamelin Soldiers fighting Legions in the Nier timeline, in which Yuzuki becomes the last Red Eye and both he and Hina are transported to Midgard after Hina uses an experimental device on him to protect him from extermination, and Kali (Gestalt Kainé’s grandmother) is credited for defeating the last Red Eye. Noelle’s story is also in the Nier timeline in which she is a clone of an experimental subject injected with Angelus’s cells in some project called the One Winged Project by some unknown human organization to fight what are presumably Legions.
Timeline-wise Noelle clones can't be fighting Legion, the official chronology states Eleanor was found by Androids by 5980, her EX Story also doesn't provides any illustrations to what were they fighting so it's a big mystery by now
Also Yuzuki wasn't going to be exterminated but used on experiments, at that point she thought him dead as he have his heart to save Hina
I can't fathom how much time, effort and passion went into making this, but I'm so glad it exists. The NieR series is truly special and this video highlighted a lot of why so many people think that, and does a great job covering parts of the story/stories that many people likely miss out on.
I will say, though, I'm a bit surprised the presence of Emil in Automata didn't come up beyond the initial war! I guess it isn't really important to the cannon for YorHa and 2B/9S, but it does put an end to his story.
Waiting for next Yoko Taro game upon:
1) Kingdom of Night
2) Aliens
3. Legion War
4) Drakengard 4 [which is most likely events of the world after ending E of 1]
The sheer amount of effort required to produce this is so immense. My hat is off to you and i look forward to more of ur thoughts and deductions in the future if u choose to provide them.
I have numerous friends who are obsessed with these two series' lore for a long time, and I only ever had little glimpses of it here and there without much context. So from the perspective of someone with only surface-level knowledge of this lore, I want to say from the bottom of my heart: this was a phenomenal video, and I hope you're proud.
I already had a lot of respect for Yoko Taro and his stories BEFORE knowing almost any of this stuff, but I can't stress enough how much more I appreciate these stories after this. Thank you for your work!!!
This was awesome! You must've spent so much time on this, you're the best!
Really appreciate you creating this video. You summarized the story so well and it was an absolute pleasure experiencing this. Thank you :)
At 1st I thought to myself, I am not watching a 6 hour video... Then I watched it. Amazing work from start to end. Probably will rewatch. I love NieR
Fantastic job on creating this video, people say that short videos are nowadays trend because they're easier to enjoy since they're quicker to get to the point and all, but man i love this long timelines explanation ones. Initially i was gonna watch just a bit, ended up watching the hole thing at once. Purely perfection.
My god that outro message is just what i needed to hear.
I thank you for making this video and especially for that ending message.
Incredible work, as an avid lover of this series as a whole, its always so awesome to see someone dive head first in and explain what's going on and honestly, you did such a good job. I'm sorry you've had to re upload this 3 times all i can say is thank you for your hard work!
It's kinda refreshing how such epic story doesn't really have happy endings. In modern times, full of "good hero saves the world and wins the day" type of stories, having these epic tales of depression, sadness and misery is really interesting.
There are zero "good heroes save the world" stories anymore. We're all depressed now and you have to be a delusional person to think otherwise completely incapable of living in the world today.
The world these days are depressing enough, if I see another story full of misery, I might as well hang myself
I think they're a reflection of the viewer. I find them all really positive and wonderful. I've seen multiple people say they wanted to end it all, but found the power to go on living thanks to Nier Automata
I think whats even more interesting is how they managed to essentially make a happy ending without it being a happy ending
Automata has a good ending though?
I finally finished the games and thus the video. You're very well spoken, and I never got tired of listening to this video. I must have replayed the first half three times already
A masterpiece of a video.
I got "into" Nier when I played Automata a while after it came out. It blows my mind how much has gone into this story.
this is very well made. thank you.
the presentation is great, the storytelling is great, and i like that it still goes over some details, unlike most timelines that would just go over important events without getting into the characters involved and stuff. of course those kinds of timelines are also great, but its nice to have the option to get more detail without having to go through a ton of content and trying to figure out the order and stuff.
Your video made me apricate the series as a whole even more. Your tone of voice, editing, footage selection, script writing, research and audio selection all culminated into a fantastic video from beginning to end and I was never bored for a single second of this 6+ hour video. Be very proud of what you made here and know that your efforts from small to large we're seen as well as apricated. Thank you for making an amazing video.
This series.. there will probably be nothing else like it in my lifetime. Absolutely amazing
I'm 40+ now, and the Nier Series ist only the second one that I can think of. The first one was Xenosaga, also very epic and philosophical, but not as dark.
This is probably my 3rd or 4th time watching this video because I enjoy the drakengard/ nier series so much and the lore behind all of it.
Great content, I really like the more non linear approach of detailing side specific stories, then explaining the main scenario with the additional context. Really helps to provide a full understanding of the story.
Was about 3 hours into this video the other day before it went, so relieved that its here again to finish watching it. Subbed in case it happens again for I will always go back to listen to this beautiful story. Thank you for all your hard work in putting this together, the most detailed timeline of the story I have ever seen
What an absolute madman. This video must've been a nightmare to make. Amazing work, friend!
I want to thank you deeply for making such a long and detailed video of the masterpiece that is NieR. Almost 6 and half hours of such detailed explanations of each and every timeline and their characters and stories. Wonderfully done. I can't imagine how much time it took you to do this whole video.
It doesn`t matter that everything is designed to end huh. One of the most detailed and most intriguing videos on youtube, really absorbed me with the story telling and amount of details put in. It must`ve took so, so, so much time to make this video. And here i am finishing this in almost 1 sitting. Absoultely loved it. Nier universe is one of the saddest and most beautifull storiest that i`ve ever heard or played thru. It`s so surprising, the amount of connections and story between the games, and you put it all together perfectly. Will always be my favorite game, and most definetelly, story. Well, besides, we are perpetually trapped in a never ending spiral of life and death.
This is the only game I've ever felt compelled to learn the entire lore of. I didn't realize it spanned two decades and so many different forms, be it games, plays, anime, etc. Absolutely superb video. I played through all of Automata's campaign in a matter of days and I just couldn't drop it so I had to look up more about it and have it all properly explained. To take two decades worth of story and condense it into a video that's easy to follow is great work. Nier is up there with my favorite video game stories now.
actually insane video dude, idk how you do what you do. I originally watched your zombies timeline video forever ago and loved it, but when i stumbled upon your channel again the other day i noticed this video and i could not have been more thrilled. the amount of time it must take for you to research all this information, compile it together, write an INSANELY long script, and personally narrate everything, i have an insane level of respect for your dedications to videos. nier is probably one of my favorite rpg stories ever and you absolutely did it justice in this video. there were a lot of things in here that i never actually knew lol. thanks so much for this video, i know myself and lots of other people really appreciate it.
I remember being a wee little me playing Drakengard for the first time at the age of 11 playing on my older brothers ps2 and just being absolutely transfixed by how gory and amazing Caim and Angelus were. And it's so amazing seeing how Yoko Taro continued to keep the series going in such an unexpected way with Nier and Automata. Love the video, man!
This is probably the single best thing I have ever seen on youtube.
You are insane for putting this together, but it is so, so much appreciated.
Such an incredible video, dude. Thanks for putting so much time and effort into a series we all love!
And I thought Sophie's summary was long... though i suppose that video is gone now. Incredibly well done, i might say this is the most comprehensive coverage of this absurd tale. Yoko Taro is an absolute mad man and we love him for it.
Actually, her channel is back up now. It's not active though, just as an archive.
Yes my favorite video game creator. Because he is the first to make video game mechanics that immersive in the story. Genius.
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Anyone care to say who Sophie is? People will find this comment years from now, and you can't expect them to all be the same age as you and remember
@@christiantaylor1495 I'm pretty sure they're talking about ValkyrieAurora
This may be a bit late to the party, but I can only imagine how much time you invested into making this. And it shows. So very well done!!!
I appreciate this video a lot. The Drakengard stuff was quite hard for me to follow as I never played the games nor have seen gameplay, but it helps add some really interesting context to NieR events. Thanks for the video
I have loved this series since Drakengard. You put so much love into this video, and it shows. So much so, I now have to play through the games chronologically after the amazing story you've summarized