I remember when I built my first deck for Digimon TCG and while looking at binders and asking prices for strong, great-looking cards, I was shocked at the prices they were telling me. As in any TCG, they have their high-priced cards but I was happy to know I could build decks without having to sacrifice my dinner
Just so you know, this video actually helped someone (or at least made their day a lot better). A friend of mine pulled a ShineGreymon: Ruin Mode. Not only did they call your vid helpful, but it was followed by "holy sh**" once they learned they had pulled the most expensive card in a competitive deck. Great work!
Lol. I remember buying a beezlemon advanced deck set which was 30 dollars, which is like 5-10 dollars more expensive than online listings, and getting the alt art beezlemon in there
Shinegreymon Ruin Mode is actually the most expensive single card period in digimon (excluding nongameplay things like special art prints altarts etc...)
Same here. I actually have 7 decks in digimon as of now, with mtg I never really had more than 3 at a given time, and was always selling out of when I wanted something new. It's nice just to keep stuff I like.
Nothing to do with the target audience, the average pokemon player is older than the average Yugi, digimon and one piece player. Is not the audience, is the massive separation between the competitive and the collector market. The overlap between both worlds in Pokemon is really small, with very few chase cards being relevant for the meta, the league decks are the best value per dollar of any product aimed at competitlve in out of any other TCG. Bar none, you can grab 2 league decks, combine them and you can get a top 8 in regionals.
@@apezplays9925lets take a staple like pot of prosperity thats played in most decks meta or otherwise 33-35$ with 3 copies makes it about 100$ alone plus shipping or buying from multiple sellers and im not even adding extra deck staples, handtraps and side deck so yah you can probably buy 2 digimon meta decks for 1 yugioh meta deck unless you already don’t have relevant staples
@@PandaHero-yi8pq In what universe, a bunch of booger encrusted blue-eyes are of course going to be cheaper than a foiled out Digimon deck, but things like Kashtira and Release Nekroz averaging 500-1000 dollars is a different story.
When Nekroz first dropped in yugioh, Brionac was a mandatory 3 of as one of the decks primary searchers and was going for $230 a pop. In modern yugioh S:P Little Knight is currently $130ish. The rarity locks get absolutely insane and I wish the yugioh TCG would adopt the OCG rarity scheme for packs.
It's worth noting that mew vmax and lost zone have other versions as well. The mew vmax version is about the same, but lost zone lists like sablezard can drop into the $40s without sacrificing power
As a former YGO player I feel more of the times I go neutral with opening a box than I did with YGO. Boss monsters being most of the times supers. Or other searchers being most of the times supers or lower. Tamers too. Unless on the rare occasion. Plus if you want speed & interaction with your opponent, because you're so used to that style, but leaving YGO then Digimon is a good game to get in to. Also there's no rulings nightmare with the game.
100% agree. As a person still playing Yugioh, I will always despise how bad the TCG rarity system is and what it does for prices. I'm still getting into Digimon, but I picked up a barebones Leopardmon core for what would maybe be the price of a single mediocre secret rare in yugioh. Aside from secret rares, promos are about the only thing that gets as pricey as Yugioh, but it doesn't seem terrible. The only issue now is finding places to play. Digimon isn't as well supported where I am, but I can at least wrangle some friends with Yugioh.
I only watch people play YGO now since even making a deck in Master Duel or Duel Links is expensive. There are 3rd party sites that let you make decks with all the cards sure but I just wamna play casually with stupid decks and I find people w meta or insanely optimal decks. Saving grace is that in those 3rd party sites sometimes the players can't pilot their deck as well since they're trying stuff out too
@@mesiagamer5217 I think it depends which promos you're looking at. There's been a lot of promos that are alt art reprints, but I'm thinking of cards that debut as promos. I remember trying to get into the game with Grandiskuwagamon, but there were the Palmon and Okuwamon promos that got pretty expensive when added up. Or even earlier when Diaboromon got a promo that was 40+ bucks for a while. They've been better about it so it's not really as bad of an issue now as it was prior.
Edit: the reason the magic format changed so much is that a new set releases today. I mean, when Modern was named it was built of cards that had been printed (at oldest) 8 years prior in a game that had been running 18 years at that point. And it would make no sense to change the name after the format was created, since it would just be confusing. But I understand the frustration. Unlike every other game on the list, Magic has 5 formats that see regular play at all levels, and a half-dozen more that are played more rarely. It's very hard to get a sense of deck costs, because Modern is usually like $500 yugioh level expenses, and pauper might be 20-80 bucks at any given time.
@@TasteOfVictory no problem. I've been playing Magic (to some degree) for like 14 years now, but I've really been enjoying Digimon (D-Brigade cards arrived in the mail today, actually)
Our shorthand explanation for modern always tied back into 'all the cards with a modern border printing' as the change from the original card frames to those basicly still used today in mtg Happened during the oldest modern legal sets iirc.
@@andrewsheiman8574 Fascinating, always good to know history on the oldest card game ever. Even if I didn't even play it and only played competitive YGO once, but I got annihilated by Chaos Emperor Dragon + Yata-garasu. >.>
Yes, yes It is. I sold a Yugioh deck (unchained) yesterday and bought with that money: 1 Blue Flare deck 1 Ravemon deck 1 Omnimon Alter S 2 Mirei for my Mastemon deck 1 Darkknightmon deck And STILL have like 20 bucks for a D-Reaper deck, a soda plus a hotdog
For MTG, your best best for equivalency here would have been Pioneer. It's the format they relaunched their competitive tour with and it is much more price and meta stable while not being as expensive as modern. Because of Arena, people don't play much standard in person, and won't until it rotates in for RCQs. Also, the rules on how standard rotates has changed for the first time since the format was created, and we have yet to see how that will impact prices.
It's cheaper than the big 3 for sure, but you will encounter cards that may or may not be mandatory for certain decks/metas that will cost 40+ bucks a copy (Looking at you, DeathXmon and SEC Rina Shinomiya).
@@TasteOfVictory Ulforce getting support in BT11 was a blessing and a curse. Congrats, they got a great piece of support, but it’s a SEC and now the deck is around 200 bucks to build, and it’s barely a tier 2 deck.
@@FabschOblivion669 that wasnt support it was a new deck. rina is the deck everything is build around her bt11 ulforce sets her up and ulforce x will win the game thanks to her. if she would have been support it would have synergized with the older ulforce cards but they just simply arent viable with her.
As someone who used to play YGO, yeah Digimon is way cheaper & there's an actual good reason to buy sealed product. A big part of why YGO is so ludicrously expensive is because of Konami's anti-consumer practices in the TCG like rarity bumping staples, increasing filler in a set & short printing compared to the OCG where staples & deck core are printed in multiple rarities making the OCG way more affordable to play.
As a current ygo player (been in the game for a while), I want to play the Digimon tcg irl but the lack of people and places to do so is just deincentivising. Also when I was playing, the Digimon tcg powercreep is weirdly done as some decks just become unplayable as they are not fast or good enough. At least with ygo, that rogue can include tech cards like board breakers and floodgates to help them.
I started with a group of two friends and now there's like eight at our store who started after seeing us. I only have one deck from a starter pack, the worst rated one and slowest, and I wiped the floor with theone top rated here. it's amazing what a few changes will do to a shit deck. it's all about playing with the costs and seeing how much you can afford to attack
My LGS has digimon tournaments every Tuesday, there isn't a single deck that goes unplayed because you can just shove new utilities into whatever deck you want and still keep up with the meta Obviously the guy who dumps $2000 into his deck will do better, but I've seen tons of different decks compete on a competitive level
the thing is, yugioh top decks where always expensive, sine most important cards of an archtype where secrets and or short printed, but past 2 years we had a combination of all good cads are secret, short prints, no reprints and when the reprint is short printed, all important staples getting a reprint just now, but we have the next 100€ per card stapple rn, and a yes staples veryone has to run in extra or main being expensve. so you could pick a 30 € deck and still come to 400€ at the end. And just rn a extra deck card released everyone has to play or he basicallay looses before the game starts thats you gussed it 100+€ rn. meanwhile yugioh in the ocg( japan usw) is basically on the digimon to pokemon pricing for a deck. The west is just getting milked, thats why many of my friends changed to master duell and online only. Every time som defines the meta its secret rare/ you get only 2 secrets per box, and then they fill the spots with trash to som, so you have secrets that cost 1 € to 120€ in the same set.
EDIT: Lately almost every yugioh structure decks has been very good and are often at the very least rogue level when you get the things that weren't already in the deck, so there s that too. The thing with yugioh is that its a game that is rewarding the longer you play it, because some stable basically are here to stay and go in pretty every deck on top of the massive number of reprint, if you find the right deck, at the beginning it will look expensive but as time goes on you ll see yourself spending very little if you only focus on what you picked up. Example, branded deck. Oh and also legacy supports. Even if you need some luck for them to boost your deck the right way, when they do, it shows. Exemple, unchained who was seeing no competitive success until the last core set happened
No structure deck competes at a rogue level in tournaments without heavy investment into either staples, upgrading the structure or most likely both. The archetypes themselves might be rogue but they are not competing at that level at all straight out of the structure deck. Sure yugioh can feel cheap after you’ve spent hundreds on staples but like, even common rarities of staple cards that have like 15 printings are $5+ more often than not when they’re relevant. God forbid there’s a generic extra deck card like accesscode or apollousa that were like $150 a copy at times.
Minor Correction: The format of MTG that allows all cards (except the banned ones) is called Legacy. Modern is only cards since the modern border, hence the name.
As a yugioh player, there is a big price spike in the beginning with the staple but once you have them. Most of the core of the deck is like less than 100 buck depending on what you are building. For example, kashtira just got announced for reprint in the tin and the deck core goes for like 70 buck.
In that same exact vein, the deck is just about "on it's way out" with fears of banlist hits killing the deck. Yes, the staples are what front the majority of the deck, but if you want to play a top deck for the maximum amount of time, you have to buy it ASAP. Most meta cores are very high rarity by default (See Kashtira, even high rogue like Vanquish Soul) and they only go down in price once everybody has the deck, by the time that happens there's a banlist or there's a new set that creeps everything again.
Economicamente falando isso é ruim pra quem pagou caro na primeira leva de impressão nas cartas, pois ao tentar recuperar o dinheiro investido não terá o mesmo retorno. E também é ruim competitivamente porque quem for entrar no competitivo pela reimpressão o deck não terá a mesma força do início podendo até mesmo estar jogando com um baralho defasado.
Magic is a weird one because the playbase would tell you standard isn't played much but the mono red aggro deck also doesn't matter too much since its only really payed in best of one and outside of that its too inconsistent to played at a competitive level and make decent results
MTGGoldfish's metagame tracker doesn't look at Arena results unless they were part of a traditionally structured best of three tournament, so that's not really correct. That said, RDW's metagame share is still probably a little over-represented due to it being both good and VERY cheap on MTGO
MTG actually used to have Extended, which was equivalent to POkemon's Expanded , but was discontinued sages agoModern was introduced to complement Legacy, but as you noticed, its not very modern anymore, so now we have other formats with more recent sets
If you're trying to play competitively in a game like Yu-Gi-Oh and you're starting fresh, there's some staples you gotta pick up. But then the meta changes, and some staples fall off because they're not effective against the meta decks. Then you gotta chase new "staples" or important sides. Even if your deck doesn't get new support, you might find yourself constantly picking up new cards just to deal with whatever the new hot deck or meta is. People buy those out, and it's constantly a game of stonk market. Other games like Digimon and Pokemon have tech cards to deal with bad match ups, but there are significantly less of those you need to buy into. Add in archetype restrictions or deck building restrictions, and there's less of an incentive to monopolize generic staple or anti-meta cards.
Btw, when Kashtira released (the day before YCS Lyon), the deck was about $1500 for that event. And that was the second best deck, arguably a very strong choice since it was a big counter to the best deck and a lot of people didn't prepare for it because of how expensive it is. That game is ridiculous, 2019 was a pretty good time to play YGO and you could play tier 1 the whole year without spending more than $150, but the prices have become really insane now on. Some years are good to play YGO, but most years are just awful, that has been the case since the beginning of times (there was even some formats back around 2010 that would require Prize cards to play optimally lmao)
MTG Competitive Format(s) Prices: • Standard is the cheapest (average 300$) • Modern is the second cheapest (1200$) • EDH (most played) is the 3th cheapest at an average of 5000$ P.S Please foil that sh@t up and reach 12K or I'll call you out! 😎 • Legacy is the 4th cheapest format, pricing between 5-8K $ (swings alot). • Vintage is the most expensive at an average price of 21000$+ - with an nearly unaffordable/uncountable price-sealing. 🤔
His last comments is really funny to hear as Lorcana the Disney TCG just dropped 4 days ago and cause of the shortage of products and scalpers meta Decks costs about 200 - 400€
To be fair, there's a good reason it's called "Modern." There used to be an extended format, which was Standard's timeframe x2, Vintage and Legacy which are the "everything ever printed" formats. When Modern came around, it was defined as "everything from 8th edition onwards" which, while super arbitrary, is also when they introduced what, at the time, was the "modern cardframe." We have since gotten yet another cardframe/style update, but even that looks way more like the "modern frame" than the drastic difference between 8th edition and early magic
There used to be a magic format named extended. It was basically standard but with more sets legal. Modern kinda replaced it. The name is also moreso in contrast to legacy/vintage which are the older non-rotating formats. I do think it's worth noting that magic has draft as a format, where the price is just the buy-in to the draft (plus sleeves I suppose). It's a really good way to keep competition accessible to new players and something I wish more games designed for
@@AndrewCrimefighter It doesn't. I guess they called it "standard+" because it is a smaller card pool than modern, but that feels unfair because at the point pioneer was made, the card pool was roughly the same age as modern's when that was created.
After playing years of Yugioh on a pretty casual level (though I spent waaaaay more than I should've), the rarity spread of cards in the TCG vs the OCG is straight up sad. If we had a similar spread to the OCG it'd be so much better, but a lot of staples and generically good cards are insanely expensive just because the TCG puts them exclusively at Secret rare. Whereas the OCG tends to put things like that in ultra rare or higher leading to them being much more affordable. I love the game, but it can be rough. I've been slowly getting into Digimon, and I think I spent about 50-ish dollars on getting some cheap cores started. Right now I have D-Brigade, Aegisdramon, and Leopardmon stuff assembled, and I chose them 1) they looked more fun and 2) I know they'll get support in future sets. Now the challenge becomes actually starting to play as there's not much of a locals scene here.
I play yugioh and I was more surprised at dlink topping than kash still costing 500. Also I picked up branded and you can change a lot about it to decrease the price while still being very strong.
looks at cardfight vanguard with its $56 4 of promo staples and the new $70 staple in its unlimited format. Yeah awful secret rare policy and promo policy right there.
Literally my problem rn, lol. Bushiroad keeps making "essential" cards for decks into promos and the secondary market keeps putting them up for absurd prices. Cards that, even taking performance into account, could be like $15 max...are put up at like $30-70 and you need 4. I seem to recall that Bushiroad told people that they'd stop doing this due to player commentary, but they haven't.
Great video and love how you went from card game to card game. Digimon, to me, still wins out thanks to the level of players it attracts, but Pokemon is crushing it with the pricing. Also, Magic the Gathering is fucking wild dude I wouldn't have even TRIED to measure the pricing there lol I feel like YGO is cheaper than MTG but that only depends on the format since MTG is crazy like that.
Personally I feel like if you get creative with some of the off-meta decks you can still perform well for a low cost too! I've been doing extremely well in my locals with my Dragon-linkz deck from ex03 that I added some custom touches too myself. And the most expensive card in the deck is the 2 Tai kamiya memory resetters which have gone down in value. If you're not worried about alt arts you can build it for about $20 and still play a good match up against something like Shinegreymon. All this is to say, if you don't care about meta and just play with making your favorites as good as they can be you can do so for the price of a starter deck which I can not say the same for a lot of other card games! (I'm looking at you MtG and YGO)
Hey great video! was fun to see some of the pricing on other games that I don't play. It might also be interesting to do a video looking at sealed product pricing. While singles will always be the best price for tcg, some players just aren't comfortable in the second hand market or don't live in a region with a thriving market. I think those players and new players would love that sort of content.
Those pokemon decks are cheap now but definitely weren't when they came out. Well maybe the Gardevoir and lost zone. I got into the Pokemon TCG about 18 months ago and deopped out as each set had the best new deck and you would be looking at $25+ each for the v/vstar/VMax- so running 4 of thise would be looking at $100 before anything else. Fascinating video and comparisons though.
Aggro is always the budget option for MTG. It's usually the case that big feature cards tend to multicolour or higher on the mana curve, so low to ground aggro decks are often just a bunch of cheap punchy critters that have haste and burn spells and so on for game. Deck doesn't always look exactly the same but is rarely expensive.
figure I'll add on to this, usually when it is expensive it's because it's also using some meta warping card that all the other decks are, at least keeping with standard it does stay pretty cheap other formats (Modern, Legacy, Vintage) while still cheaper than most of the other decks is still, in comparison to itself, quite a bit more but that comes with better cards for the strategy
It's card pool starts with the introduction of the modern card frame. If we get a full card frame redesign (and not just the minor redesign from M15), then the format name will lose all meaning.
It should be noted this video comes out right around magic dropping a new set, which means the standard meta is going through a shake up that it normally only goes through every few months
Primarily MTG player, mostly commander (EDH) these days, it's quite easy to get some commander games going at a FLGS, and many of them even have commander nights. Many of the pre-constructed decks can sometimes kinda hold their own at a table (really depends on roup) and there are many powerful brews for under $100. Standard has gone down in pricing over the years (though it depends on what's in rotation) but some flavor of mono-red is usually playable and usually cheap. Modern is closer to what YGO is and that's where your $500+ or $1000+ decks sit, it's non-rotating but sometimes new sets upset the format and "rotates" it to a higher power level or different paradigm. Also the reason why you probably saw a shuffle on MTGGoldfish is that a new set just dropped, and a bunch of new cards got injected into Standard.
It’s cheap. I came from Yugioh and was really surprised. I can buy four copies of an entry BT set for cheaper than the cost of a meta Yugioh deck. I’d say it’s around the price of a rough deck. And, Kashtira was egregious! Konami rarity bumped all the key three of cards to either ultra rare or secret rare. When Photonhypernova came out with the second of the Kashtira support the deck was around $800-1,000.
Magic player commenting. With new standard being 3 years until rotation instead of two, I think there was a little bit of chaos in which decks would reign supreme. And although there are changes after every set release, in general the best decks stay fairly consistent for the duration of that standard. And Red aggro decks are always a viable budget option in every standard.
Another quite accessible niche game is the Final Fantasy TCG, where plenty of viable decks also tend to range from 50-100 Dollars. Usually 30 Bucks for a recent starter deck and some key upgrades will get you up to the meta, and most key engine cards tend to be printed at low rarities and thus are quite easy to get by.
As we talk about card game pricing, funny to come full circle and return here after recent YGO price discussions and MegacapitalG's reference to this vid.
Friendly reminder that the 25th Anniversary Rarity Collection just came out in Yu-Gi-Oh! which contains A LOT of staple cards (if not all modern staple cards), reducing their cost to a couple cents most of the time. Yu-Gi-Oh! is REALLY cheap right now to get into :D I just bought around 35 staples for 19 euro, which would have probably been at least 200 to 300 euro before the rarity collection. Keep in mind, that you can use these in almost every single deck there is, as there's no colour restriction in Yu-Gi-Oh!.
Standard is not a very popular format for paper anymore since Arena came out. They never fire at my LGS on game nights, pioneer, modern and even legacy fires way more often! But commander is the way to go because you never need to worry about price. Just play whatever and you can still have fun!
Coming from spening nearly $500+ for max rarity meta decks on Yu-Gi-Oh getting into this TCG is a very pleasant surprise. Honestly one of my favorite by the cost to entry alone.
I love pokemon decks because the item cards are so good between decks, its just tuning what you want and adding more items that would help. The tier 3 battle decks are pretty solid jumping point aswell.
It makes sense that Yugioh decks are so expensive honestly when you consider if you buy a full deck, the majority of cards also fit in every other deck. So it’s more like 300 upfront and 20 afterwards if you want a new deck. Key word being want. And most of the updating can be done via 20 on a Structure Deck which also gives you a completely new deck
If you want to get a real shock should have looked at either modern MtG or Flesh and blood. Afaik both can have cards expensive enough to buy the features dcg decks (potentially without the ruin mode in shine.)
Mimi is hella expensive now for the giga green deck. I finally was able to build my deck but turns out there’s a lot of green cards I missed out on for Stingmon.
I've played Yu-Gi-Oh off and on since I was a kid, I'm not surprised it's the most expensive. Pokemon and Digimon do a great job keeping the prices more than reasonable.
As an ex-competitive control-only MTG player, YES. Yes, it is. For the price of half my modern Grixis control deck (not a tier 1 deck by any means, just had snapcaster mage, liliana of the veil, etc) i have made 4 competitive digimon decks and 2 lesser/fun decks.
the thing with digimon is a lot of the 5-10 bucks cards are sold in starter decks that can go as low as 10 bucks, with multiple copies of multiple cards you need for multiple decks. a firend and I did a competitive deck w no starter deck cards and it cost us 5 boosters and 5 bucks for extras.
one thing about digimon is that if you take just one step below meta, decks get REALLY cheap. you can get some very strong tier 2 or even just lower tier 1 decks for $30 or lower, like sukamon or belphemon or beelzemon, and those decks (maybe not sukamon) can easily win you a local or get you high at a regional if youre lucky
"(maybe not sukamon)" yet. maybe not sukamon [yet]. as a recently new player to digimon (and TCG's in general) i've been eyeing all the future support and my is it looking good.
Can you do an updated video including the Final Fantasy tcg, I've been trying to grow the game at my locals and I feel a video would be eye-opening whether good or bad.
2:25 I thought it was a joke. In Yu-Gi-Oh some of the best cards can go alone by 50€ each lol. Will be checking out the tutorial for this game tonight, thanks for making these sort of videos
just few months ago we had a deck go 1500k€ is for an event. that was the second best deck. ever since pandemic west is getting milked, Ocg is fine doe and on digimon level in terms of pricing.
Modern mainly stand out fron the 2 oldest formats vintage and legacy which include nearly all cards. There's also pioneer which has become really popular and a bit more than modern. Standard is the ugly duck that no one likes to play because of rotation and limited cardpool. While commander is just popular based on how casual or competitive you want your deck to be.
Also, I know a lot of this is based on TCG Player, but as someone who more or less trades to get their decks, I've actually spent less for Shine AND BWG because of my box pulls, tournament wins and etc. If you are active in Digimon, costs actually get cheaper if you got a healthy community and tournament scene.
Side side note; BlueFlare is currently topping on the US side along side Mirage-- both decks being around the 50 mark w/ the main boss mon or Burst mode being around $10 per copy outside of Alt Arts. Shine/BWG has the more price for sure but there are other meta decks (Machines come to mind which almost topped against Blue Flare last Regional I went too) so, yeah Digi be cheap if you know how to play the trade game.
one the the not big but most constant priceouts was the colored Memory boost cards ussuly being 3 to five dollars each. now they don't even break 50 cents due to the reprints.
Ya Sheoldred is pretty damn expensive, but it's also such a strong card. One thing to keep in mind about the prices though, at least if you're playing on Arena or something you aren't spending that same kind of money, you can use wildcards to just pick things you want, even if the game is pretty stingy about giving you wildcards. Or you can also just get lucky in booster packs, or trade for it if you know some one else who plays. I don't play black or green very often so if I got some good black cards, i'd probably just give them to my little step brother, and he'd give me anything blue or white. I think I actually gave him a sheoldred.
Not only Digimon decks are cheaper but in my experience I can also sell a deck to someone at locals way easier compared to other TCGs. People will often have multiple decks that they like.
dude if you buy a booster box you just get so many rare hits man its crazy and when the game first game out digimon booster boxes were like 50$ pokemon boosters around the same time were like 130 and they were really hit or miss lol
Magics formats really only get very expensive when you hit formats like commander or legacy. A competitive list of my commander deck would currently cost around $3.66k
Yeah , i think thats the main selling point of digimon , Is that everyone can get in with somewhat little investment , Blue Flare deck which does have a bit of impact in Meta can be found around 70$ tops but modt i see for 50$ , Wargreymon deck 100$ Tops maybe 150$ if including the news sets , And even fully bling deck is quite cheap , My friend has full AA alphamon For around 400 if im not wrong
While talking about price ranges I'm curious what's going to happen with Disney's Lorcana. I wanted to get into it with my fiance as sort of a game we could play together or with others if she likes it, but regular cards are already in the 50s with alt arts way up in the 2 to 300s and everywhere around here went bone dry in nearly a day.
Scalpers unfortunately looking to take advantage of the Disney brand. What's cool though is that Ravensburger already confirmed they're going to print more cards so you'll get your chance soon 😁
Your video still represents the standard meta well. There's a recent shift due to a set dropping a couple of days ago but Mono red is not a particuarly good deck outside of best of one in magic arena. Sorry you couldn't get a consistent answer on "what's the best format to represent the game" because it's a bit of a complicated subject depending on who you ask. For what's worth do, if you end up getting a group together to play commander the game can be extremely cheap if they all agree to play on a budget and with precon decks.
I play Yugioh but I'm really interested in playing Digimon. I already have an Beelzemon deck but I'm not familiar on how to play because I have no one to play with. I wish there was an up to date Digimon TCG Simulator to play
Funny enough when it comes to the one piece tcg decks that are considered not very good end up being dirt cheap to build and can top decks like Katakuri, Zoro, etc. Colors also play a factor in what matchup will be in your favor. Black is an example which can do incredibly well against yellow and even Zoro
this is true for all card games actually. in ygo the meta is formed between decks that win fast and decks made to beat that win. for example: Oh the meta is Tearlament that uses graveyard a lot? going to play a deck that banishes everything before hitting the grave so they can't play.
I used to play yugioh, Now I play manly MTG and some Digimon. I do believe MTG has an issue with being compared by price when it has so many distinct formats. There's pauper (only commons) that is super cheap and amazingly diverse and powerfull and then vintage, there thousands of dollasrs is the cheap side of it.
Standard shifts a lot in magic, I personally play modern the most and that's a very common competitive format in paper, standard has MTG arena so it's commonly played online, pioneer hasn't been played a lot because it's sort of stagnated and stuck with just a couple of decks. And we just don't do paper vintage/legacy, magic online prices for those decks would be best to check instead of paper prices.
Something that wasn't noted about magic is that standard has a rotation period meaning that deck you just bought is only playable for about a year then you either have to swap out cards to try to compete with the new meta or move twords an eternal format like modern where the cheapest meta deck is almost $500.
FWIW Wizards actually just increased its rotation period to 3 years for exactly that reason, going up from 2 years. The most recent set released this month is the first set released after this change, and won’t be rotated out until September 2026. The oldest set in standard (released sep 2021) wont rotate out until next year, and the 2022 sets the year after.
Sure digimon puts a lot of cards as promos, but those promos are always easily enough obtainable. It would be different if event packs and box toppers had cards other then reprints but luckily it’s only max rarity that gets thrown off from those.
It be a big shame, a friend got me into it and was thinking of buying a couple things but since everything is imported the prices for everything get doubled.
So i have gotten into collecting tcgs recently and yeah the prices of some cards are crazy i think i would need to sell pretty much all cards i own to buy "the pretty ones"
As a very old yugioh player often playing meta decks. I find magic very very cheap even for fully foil decks. I played the full max rarity tele dad deck with crush card (gold) so card games like digimon I find to be stupidly cheap. Like pocket change haha
Great video! Would have loved if it included Dragon Ball Super card game (love that gane personally, but it's not that popular). Thanks for the effort and research!!
source material wise i love one piece more than anything... but the prices are rediculous i hope it doesnt kill the game. digimon however is my fav TCG to PLAY. i love the memory system and the card mechanics. i love the art and MON as well. great cheap game to olau with my son.
I remember when I built my first deck for Digimon TCG and while looking at binders and asking prices for strong, great-looking cards, I was shocked at the prices they were telling me. As in any TCG, they have their high-priced cards but I was happy to know I could build decks without having to sacrifice my dinner
Just so you know, this video actually helped someone (or at least made their day a lot better). A friend of mine pulled a ShineGreymon: Ruin Mode. Not only did they call your vid helpful, but it was followed by "holy sh**" once they learned they had pulled the most expensive card in a competitive deck. Great work!
Lol. I remember buying a beezlemon advanced deck set which was 30 dollars, which is like 5-10 dollars more expensive than online listings, and getting the alt art beezlemon in there
Shinegreymon Ruin Mode is actually the most expensive single card period in digimon (excluding nongameplay things like special art prints altarts etc...)
Sorry I forgot about deathxmon and Rina. Besides these 2 its the most expensive.
I came to digimon after losing interest in magic, and the price difference has been a huge boon.
Same here. I actually have 7 decks in digimon as of now, with mtg I never really had more than 3 at a given time, and was always selling out of when I wanted something new. It's nice just to keep stuff I like.
@@JohnDoe-zx1ck I have 11 built decks with an 12th close to finished, compared to my 3 yugioh decks.
@@sirspookybones1118 Try 14.
@@LordFinkenstein I have 12 built and 2 close to done, so I'm about to hit 14 playable
Magic is eating itself alive, and given how they've trashed their own game, I'm here for it
I think it's fitting that Pokemon has an accessible price point, given its target audience
I managed to make a pretty great beginner deck to start for under $12. You literally can’t get an easier entry point
Didn't used to be tho that's for sure
Nothing to do with the target audience, the average pokemon player is older than the average Yugi, digimon and one piece player. Is not the audience, is the massive separation between the competitive and the collector market. The overlap between both worlds in Pokemon is really small, with very few chase cards being relevant for the meta, the league decks are the best value per dollar of any product aimed at competitlve in out of any other TCG. Bar none, you can grab 2 league decks, combine them and you can get a top 8 in regionals.
As an Ex yugioh player. yes this game is cheap
Surely there are no single meta yugioh cards that are worth whole digimon decks. Now to take a big sip of water
exactly the reason why i switched to this game.@@apezplays9925
@@apezplays9925lets take a staple like pot of prosperity thats played in most decks meta or otherwise 33-35$ with 3 copies makes it about 100$ alone plus shipping or buying from multiple sellers and im not even adding extra deck staples, handtraps and side deck so yah you can probably buy 2 digimon meta decks for 1 yugioh meta deck unless you already don’t have relevant staples
@@apezplays9925 Side Eyes Triple Tactics Thrust
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When you max rarity your Royal Knight Deck, and a yugi player tells you, what a cheap deck you have there.
This happened to me xD I even added the Party Magnamon xD
Tf u smokin mate? Ygo deck is way cheaper than your digimon cards, especially in OCG
@@PandaHero-yi8pq In what universe, a bunch of booger encrusted blue-eyes are of course going to be cheaper than a foiled out Digimon deck, but things like Kashtira and Release Nekroz averaging 500-1000 dollars is a different story.
@@skeletingking And some decks go for 2k dollars in YGO. >.>;
Since some of those prize cards are freaking expensive as hell. lol
When Nekroz first dropped in yugioh, Brionac was a mandatory 3 of as one of the decks primary searchers and was going for $230 a pop. In modern yugioh S:P Little Knight is currently $130ish. The rarity locks get absolutely insane and I wish the yugioh TCG would adopt the OCG rarity scheme for packs.
It's worth noting that mew vmax and lost zone have other versions as well. The mew vmax version is about the same, but lost zone lists like sablezard can drop into the $40s without sacrificing power
As a former YGO player I feel more of the times I go neutral with opening a box than I did with YGO.
Boss monsters being most of the times supers.
Or other searchers being most of the times supers or lower.
Tamers too.
Unless on the rare occasion.
Plus if you want speed & interaction with your opponent, because you're so used to that style, but leaving YGO then Digimon is a good game to get in to.
Also there's no rulings nightmare with the game.
100% agree. As a person still playing Yugioh, I will always despise how bad the TCG rarity system is and what it does for prices. I'm still getting into Digimon, but I picked up a barebones Leopardmon core for what would maybe be the price of a single mediocre secret rare in yugioh.
Aside from secret rares, promos are about the only thing that gets as pricey as Yugioh, but it doesn't seem terrible.
The only issue now is finding places to play. Digimon isn't as well supported where I am, but I can at least wrangle some friends with Yugioh.
I only watch people play YGO now since even making a deck in Master Duel or Duel Links is expensive. There are 3rd party sites that let you make decks with all the cards sure but I just wamna play casually with stupid decks and I find people w meta or insanely optimal decks. Saving grace is that in those 3rd party sites sometimes the players can't pilot their deck as well since they're trying stuff out too
@@bugking1413even with the promos 9 times out of ten they are reprints of other cards.
@@mesiagamer5217 I think it depends which promos you're looking at. There's been a lot of promos that are alt art reprints, but I'm thinking of cards that debut as promos. I remember trying to get into the game with Grandiskuwagamon, but there were the Palmon and Okuwamon promos that got pretty expensive when added up. Or even earlier when Diaboromon got a promo that was 40+ bucks for a while. They've been better about it so it's not really as bad of an issue now as it was prior.
Edit: the reason the magic format changed so much is that a new set releases today.
I mean, when Modern was named it was built of cards that had been printed (at oldest) 8 years prior in a game that had been running 18 years at that point. And it would make no sense to change the name after the format was created, since it would just be confusing.
But I understand the frustration. Unlike every other game on the list, Magic has 5 formats that see regular play at all levels, and a half-dozen more that are played more rarely. It's very hard to get a sense of deck costs, because Modern is usually like $500 yugioh level expenses, and pauper might be 20-80 bucks at any given time.
Thank you for that explanation!
@@TasteOfVictory no problem. I've been playing Magic (to some degree) for like 14 years now, but I've really been enjoying Digimon (D-Brigade cards arrived in the mail today, actually)
Our shorthand explanation for modern always tied back into 'all the cards with a modern border printing' as the change from the original card frames to those basicly still used today in mtg Happened during the oldest modern legal sets iirc.
@@maximilianschug6271 yes, it coincides with the new frame style beginning in 8th edition, which was about 8 years old when Modern began in 2011
@@andrewsheiman8574 Fascinating, always good to know history on the oldest card game ever. Even if I didn't even play it and only played competitive YGO once, but I got annihilated by Chaos Emperor Dragon + Yata-garasu. >.>
Yes, yes It is.
I sold a Yugioh deck (unchained) yesterday and bought with that money:
1 Blue Flare deck
1 Ravemon deck
1 Omnimon Alter S
2 Mirei for my Mastemon deck
1 Darkknightmon deck
And STILL have like 20 bucks for a D-Reaper deck, a soda plus a hotdog
That’s some great value.
I like the $20 usage at the end
For MTG, your best best for equivalency here would have been Pioneer. It's the format they relaunched their competitive tour with and it is much more price and meta stable while not being as expensive as modern. Because of Arena, people don't play much standard in person, and won't until it rotates in for RCQs. Also, the rules on how standard rotates has changed for the first time since the format was created, and we have yet to see how that will impact prices.
It's cheaper than the big 3 for sure, but you will encounter cards that may or may not be mandatory for certain decks/metas that will cost 40+ bucks a copy (Looking at you, DeathXmon and SEC Rina Shinomiya).
Luckily, deathx at least rotates in and out of being needed funny enough. But pour one out for Ulforce players tho RIP.
@@TasteOfVictory Ulforce getting support in BT11 was a blessing and a curse.
Congrats, they got a great piece of support, but it’s a SEC and now the deck is around 200 bucks to build, and it’s barely a tier 2 deck.
@@FabschOblivion669 that wasnt support it was a new deck. rina is the deck everything is build around her bt11 ulforce sets her up and ulforce x will win the game thanks to her. if she would have been support it would have synergized with the older ulforce cards but they just simply arent viable with her.
And Mastemon
@@Gorn21 If that’s the case then Greymon has like 4 different decks.
As someone who used to play YGO, yeah Digimon is way cheaper & there's an actual good reason to buy sealed product.
A big part of why YGO is so ludicrously expensive is because of Konami's anti-consumer practices in the TCG like rarity bumping staples, increasing filler in a set & short printing compared to the OCG where staples & deck core are printed in multiple rarities making the OCG way more affordable to play.
Konami is more of an Anti-West Comsumer Practices type of company. lol
Why else would there be a slogan as Fuck Konami?
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As a current ygo player (been in the game for a while), I want to play the Digimon tcg irl but the lack of people and places to do so is just deincentivising. Also when I was playing, the Digimon tcg powercreep is weirdly done as some decks just become unplayable as they are not fast or good enough. At least with ygo, that rogue can include tech cards like board breakers and floodgates to help them.
I started with a group of two friends and now there's like eight at our store who started after seeing us. I only have one deck from a starter pack, the worst rated one and slowest, and I wiped the floor with theone top rated here. it's amazing what a few changes will do to a shit deck. it's all about playing with the costs and seeing how much you can afford to attack
My LGS has digimon tournaments every Tuesday, there isn't a single deck that goes unplayed because you can just shove new utilities into whatever deck you want and still keep up with the meta
Obviously the guy who dumps $2000 into his deck will do better, but I've seen tons of different decks compete on a competitive level
the thing is, yugioh top decks where always expensive, sine most important cards of an archtype where secrets and or short printed, but past 2 years we had a combination of all good cads are secret, short prints, no reprints and when the reprint is short printed, all important staples getting a reprint just now, but we have the next 100€ per card stapple rn, and a yes staples veryone has to run in extra or main being expensve. so you could pick a 30 € deck and still come to 400€ at the end. And just rn a extra deck card released everyone has to play or he basicallay looses before the game starts thats you gussed it 100+€ rn. meanwhile yugioh in the ocg( japan usw) is basically on the digimon to pokemon pricing for a deck. The west is just getting milked, thats why many of my friends changed to master duell and online only. Every time som defines the meta its secret rare/ you get only 2 secrets per box, and then they fill the spots with trash to som, so you have secrets that cost 1 € to 120€ in the same set.
EDIT: Lately almost every yugioh structure decks has been very good and are often at the very least rogue level when you get the things that weren't already in the deck, so there s that too.
The thing with yugioh is that its a game that is rewarding the longer you play it, because some stable basically are here to stay and go in pretty every deck on top of the massive number of reprint, if you find the right deck, at the beginning it will look expensive but as time goes on you ll see yourself spending very little if you only focus on what you picked up.
Example, branded deck.
Oh and also legacy supports. Even if you need some luck for them to boost your deck the right way, when they do, it shows.
Exemple, unchained who was seeing no competitive success until the last core set happened
No structure deck competes at a rogue level in tournaments without heavy investment into either staples, upgrading the structure or most likely both. The archetypes themselves might be rogue but they are not competing at that level at all straight out of the structure deck.
Sure yugioh can feel cheap after you’ve spent hundreds on staples but like, even common rarities of staple cards that have like 15 printings are $5+ more often than not when they’re relevant. God forbid there’s a generic extra deck card like accesscode or apollousa that were like $150 a copy at times.
Tell that to those nostalgia bait Structure decks like the Egyptian God and the Blue-eyes re-release...
@@V-Jes I said almost all, and we don't even know what s in the new structure deck dark magician/blue-eyes yet so i wouldn't judge them
Minor Correction: The format of MTG that allows all cards (except the banned ones) is called Legacy. Modern is only cards since the modern border, hence the name.
On top of that, vintage is the magic format with the biggest card pool and the average deck price is comparable to a mortgage.
As MTG player since.. 2014...
Oh sweet summer Child... MTG MEta Decks for the Main Competetiv ( Modern) Range from 600-1,5k
As a yugioh player, there is a big price spike in the beginning with the staple but once you have them. Most of the core of the deck is like less than 100 buck depending on what you are building. For example, kashtira just got announced for reprint in the tin and the deck core goes for like 70 buck.
In that same exact vein, the deck is just about "on it's way out" with fears of banlist hits killing the deck. Yes, the staples are what front the majority of the deck, but if you want to play a top deck for the maximum amount of time, you have to buy it ASAP. Most meta cores are very high rarity by default (See Kashtira, even high rogue like Vanquish Soul) and they only go down in price once everybody has the deck, by the time that happens there's a banlist or there's a new set that creeps everything again.
Economicamente falando isso é ruim pra quem pagou caro na primeira leva de impressão nas cartas, pois ao tentar recuperar o dinheiro investido não terá o mesmo retorno. E também é ruim competitivamente porque quem for entrar no competitivo pela reimpressão o deck não terá a mesma força do início podendo até mesmo estar jogando com um baralho defasado.
Magic is a weird one because the playbase would tell you standard isn't played much but the mono red aggro deck also doesn't matter too much since its only really payed in best of one and outside of that its too inconsistent to played at a competitive level and make decent results
MTGGoldfish's metagame tracker doesn't look at Arena results unless they were part of a traditionally structured best of three tournament, so that's not really correct. That said, RDW's metagame share is still probably a little over-represented due to it being both good and VERY cheap on MTGO
MTG actually used to have Extended, which was equivalent to POkemon's Expanded , but was discontinued sages agoModern was introduced to complement Legacy, but as you noticed, its not very modern anymore, so now we have other formats with more recent sets
If you're trying to play competitively in a game like Yu-Gi-Oh and you're starting fresh, there's some staples you gotta pick up. But then the meta changes, and some staples fall off because they're not effective against the meta decks. Then you gotta chase new "staples" or important sides.
Even if your deck doesn't get new support, you might find yourself constantly picking up new cards just to deal with whatever the new hot deck or meta is. People buy those out, and it's constantly a game of stonk market. Other games like Digimon and Pokemon have tech cards to deal with bad match ups, but there are significantly less of those you need to buy into. Add in archetype restrictions or deck building restrictions, and there's less of an incentive to monopolize generic staple or anti-meta cards.
Btw, when Kashtira released (the day before YCS Lyon), the deck was about $1500 for that event. And that was the second best deck, arguably a very strong choice since it was a big counter to the best deck and a lot of people didn't prepare for it because of how expensive it is. That game is ridiculous, 2019 was a pretty good time to play YGO and you could play tier 1 the whole year without spending more than $150, but the prices have become really insane now on. Some years are good to play YGO, but most years are just awful, that has been the case since the beginning of times (there was even some formats back around 2010 that would require Prize cards to play optimally lmao)
MTG
Competitive Format(s) Prices:
• Standard is the cheapest (average 300$)
• Modern is the second cheapest (1200$)
• EDH (most played) is the 3th cheapest at an average of 5000$
P.S Please foil that sh@t up and reach 12K or I'll call you out! 😎
• Legacy is the 4th cheapest format, pricing between 5-8K $ (swings alot).
• Vintage is the most expensive at an average price of 21000$+
- with an nearly unaffordable/uncountable price-sealing. 🤔
His last comments is really funny to hear as Lorcana the Disney TCG just dropped 4 days ago and cause of the shortage of products and scalpers meta Decks costs about 200 - 400€
To be fair, there's a good reason it's called "Modern." There used to be an extended format, which was Standard's timeframe x2, Vintage and Legacy which are the "everything ever printed" formats.
When Modern came around, it was defined as "everything from 8th edition onwards" which, while super arbitrary, is also when they introduced what, at the time, was the "modern cardframe." We have since gotten yet another cardframe/style update, but even that looks way more like the "modern frame" than the drastic difference between 8th edition and early magic
The card frames of Magic cards were also changed in 1995. The tap symbol and other icons were modified slightly as well.
There used to be a magic format named extended. It was basically standard but with more sets legal. Modern kinda replaced it. The name is also moreso in contrast to legacy/vintage which are the older non-rotating formats.
I do think it's worth noting that magic has draft as a format, where the price is just the buy-in to the draft (plus sleeves I suppose). It's a really good way to keep competition accessible to new players and something I wish more games designed for
We have Pioneer now. Which is basically standard+
@@Darkrei2 pioneer rotates?
@@AndrewCrimefighter It doesn't. I guess they called it "standard+" because it is a smaller card pool than modern, but that feels unfair because at the point pioneer was made, the card pool was roughly the same age as modern's when that was created.
Yes, it's too cheap that i stopped buying after BT01
After playing years of Yugioh on a pretty casual level (though I spent waaaaay more than I should've), the rarity spread of cards in the TCG vs the OCG is straight up sad. If we had a similar spread to the OCG it'd be so much better, but a lot of staples and generically good cards are insanely expensive just because the TCG puts them exclusively at Secret rare. Whereas the OCG tends to put things like that in ultra rare or higher leading to them being much more affordable. I love the game, but it can be rough.
I've been slowly getting into Digimon, and I think I spent about 50-ish dollars on getting some cheap cores started. Right now I have D-Brigade, Aegisdramon, and Leopardmon stuff assembled, and I chose them 1) they looked more fun and 2) I know they'll get support in future sets.
Now the challenge becomes actually starting to play as there's not much of a locals scene here.
I play yugioh and I was more surprised at dlink topping than kash still costing 500. Also I picked up branded and you can change a lot about it to decrease the price while still being very strong.
Sorry but Branded hasnt been top 3 since Tear
looks at cardfight vanguard with its $56 4 of promo staples and the new $70 staple in its unlimited format. Yeah awful secret rare policy and promo policy right there.
Literally my problem rn, lol. Bushiroad keeps making "essential" cards for decks into promos and the secondary market keeps putting them up for absurd prices. Cards that, even taking performance into account, could be like $15 max...are put up at like $30-70 and you need 4. I seem to recall that Bushiroad told people that they'd stop doing this due to player commentary, but they haven't.
Great video and love how you went from card game to card game. Digimon, to me, still wins out thanks to the level of players it attracts, but Pokemon is crushing it with the pricing. Also, Magic the Gathering is fucking wild dude I wouldn't have even TRIED to measure the pricing there lol I feel like YGO is cheaper than MTG but that only depends on the format since MTG is crazy like that.
the thing about Modern in MTG is that it doesn't actually go that far back and there's multiple actual "unlimited" formats
Personally I feel like if you get creative with some of the off-meta decks you can still perform well for a low cost too! I've been doing extremely well in my locals with my Dragon-linkz deck from ex03 that I added some custom touches too myself. And the most expensive card in the deck is the 2 Tai kamiya memory resetters which have gone down in value. If you're not worried about alt arts you can build it for about $20 and still play a good match up against something like Shinegreymon. All this is to say, if you don't care about meta and just play with making your favorites as good as they can be you can do so for the price of a starter deck which I can not say the same for a lot of other card games! (I'm looking at you MtG and YGO)
You got something wrong... its actually "cheaper that any starter deck" 😁
curious but what makes the exo3 dragon deck a good matchup against shinegrey? I built it for fun a while ago but never used it
Does anyone know where the art of WarGreymon playing the card game that is used in the video is from?
Hey great video! was fun to see some of the pricing on other games that I don't play. It might also be interesting to do a video looking at sealed product pricing. While singles will always be the best price for tcg, some players just aren't comfortable in the second hand market or don't live in a region with a thriving market. I think those players and new players would love that sort of content.
Those pokemon decks are cheap now but definitely weren't when they came out. Well maybe the Gardevoir and lost zone. I got into the Pokemon TCG about 18 months ago and deopped out as each set had the best new deck and you would be looking at $25+ each for the v/vstar/VMax- so running 4 of thise would be looking at $100 before anything else.
Fascinating video and comparisons though.
Late swsh is like the most expensive time period i can think of in recent memory 💀
Aggro is always the budget option for MTG. It's usually the case that big feature cards tend to multicolour or higher on the mana curve, so low to ground aggro decks are often just a bunch of cheap punchy critters that have haste and burn spells and so on for game. Deck doesn't always look exactly the same but is rarely expensive.
figure I'll add on to this, usually when it is expensive it's because it's also using some meta warping card that all the other decks are, at least keeping with standard it does stay pretty cheap other formats (Modern, Legacy, Vintage) while still cheaper than most of the other decks is still, in comparison to itself, quite a bit more but that comes with better cards for the strategy
Modern seems like a weird name only because it was introduced a long time ago; at the time, it made sense, but it does not anymore.
It's card pool starts with the introduction of the modern card frame. If we get a full card frame redesign (and not just the minor redesign from M15), then the format name will lose all meaning.
It should be noted this video comes out right around magic dropping a new set, which means the standard meta is going through a shake up that it normally only goes through every few months
Primarily MTG player, mostly commander (EDH) these days, it's quite easy to get some commander games going at a FLGS, and many of them even have commander nights. Many of the pre-constructed decks can sometimes kinda hold their own at a table (really depends on roup) and there are many powerful brews for under $100. Standard has gone down in pricing over the years (though it depends on what's in rotation) but some flavor of mono-red is usually playable and usually cheap. Modern is closer to what YGO is and that's where your $500+ or $1000+ decks sit, it's non-rotating but sometimes new sets upset the format and "rotates" it to a higher power level or different paradigm.
Also the reason why you probably saw a shuffle on MTGGoldfish is that a new set just dropped, and a bunch of new cards got injected into Standard.
It’s cheap. I came from Yugioh and was really surprised. I can buy four copies of an entry BT set for cheaper than the cost of a meta Yugioh deck. I’d say it’s around the price of a rough deck.
And, Kashtira was egregious! Konami rarity bumped all the key three of cards to either ultra rare or secret rare. When Photonhypernova came out with the second of the Kashtira support the deck was around $800-1,000.
Occasionally yugioh drops a staple tht is 100$+ which you need 3 of to play competitively… digimon is cheap lol
Magic player commenting. With new standard being 3 years until rotation instead of two, I think there was a little bit of chaos in which decks would reign supreme. And although there are changes after every set release, in general the best decks stay fairly consistent for the duration of that standard. And Red aggro decks are always a viable budget option in every standard.
Another quite accessible niche game is the Final Fantasy TCG, where plenty of viable decks also tend to range from 50-100 Dollars. Usually 30 Bucks for a recent starter deck and some key upgrades will get you up to the meta, and most key engine cards tend to be printed at low rarities and thus are quite easy to get by.
As we talk about card game pricing, funny to come full circle and return here after recent YGO price discussions and MegacapitalG's reference to this vid.
Great video! Good to know where the game is sitting in comparison to others currently 😁😁
Friendly reminder that the 25th Anniversary Rarity Collection just came out in Yu-Gi-Oh! which contains A LOT of staple cards (if not all modern staple cards), reducing their cost to a couple cents most of the time. Yu-Gi-Oh! is REALLY cheap right now to get into :D I just bought around 35 staples for 19 euro, which would have probably been at least 200 to 300 euro before the rarity collection. Keep in mind, that you can use these in almost every single deck there is, as there's no colour restriction in Yu-Gi-Oh!.
Good job on this video. I think the expenses of card games is a topic that offten gets over looked.
Standard is not a very popular format for paper anymore since Arena came out. They never fire at my LGS on game nights, pioneer, modern and even legacy fires way more often! But commander is the way to go because you never need to worry about price. Just play whatever and you can still have fun!
This explains why black wargreymon and shinegreymon precons went up a little
Coming from spening nearly $500+ for max rarity meta decks on Yu-Gi-Oh getting into this TCG is a very pleasant surprise.
Honestly one of my favorite by the cost to entry alone.
I love pokemon decks because the item cards are so good between decks, its just tuning what you want and adding more items that would help. The tier 3 battle decks are pretty solid jumping point aswell.
It makes sense that Yugioh decks are so expensive honestly when you consider if you buy a full deck, the majority of cards also fit in every other deck.
So it’s more like 300 upfront and 20 afterwards if you want a new deck. Key word being want. And most of the updating can be done via 20 on a Structure Deck which also gives you a completely new deck
This was super informative! Flesh and Blood is my game of choice but geez Louise those deck prices! Definitely considering pokémon as a secondary TCG
If you want to get a real shock should have looked at either modern MtG or Flesh and blood. Afaik both can have cards expensive enough to buy the features dcg decks (potentially without the ruin mode in shine.)
Mimi is hella expensive now for the giga green deck. I finally was able to build my deck but turns out there’s a lot of green cards I missed out on for Stingmon.
I've played Yu-Gi-Oh off and on since I was a kid, I'm not surprised it's the most expensive.
Pokemon and Digimon do a great job keeping the prices more than reasonable.
To note about Magic a new JUST dropped with a lot of strong rares so that would be why. Typically meta only has notable shifts at these times
As an ex-competitive control-only MTG player, YES.
Yes, it is.
For the price of half my modern Grixis control deck (not a tier 1 deck by any means, just had snapcaster mage, liliana of the veil, etc) i have made 4 competitive digimon decks and 2 lesser/fun decks.
the thing with digimon is a lot of the 5-10 bucks cards are sold in starter decks that can go as low as 10 bucks, with multiple copies of multiple cards you need for multiple decks. a firend and I did a competitive deck w no starter deck cards and it cost us 5 boosters and 5 bucks for extras.
You should check out MTG Pauper decks. Not only is it a VERY popular format (arguably more popular than standard even), its also very cheap to play
one thing about digimon is that if you take just one step below meta, decks get REALLY cheap. you can get some very strong tier 2 or even just lower tier 1 decks for $30 or lower, like sukamon or belphemon or beelzemon, and those decks (maybe not sukamon) can easily win you a local or get you high at a regional if youre lucky
"(maybe not sukamon)"
yet. maybe not sukamon [yet].
as a recently new player to digimon (and TCG's in general) i've been eyeing all the future support and my is it looking good.
Really like this video its fun comparing card prices
modern is called like that because is all cards with the "modern frame", around 2003 to date (considering the 2015 new frame)
Can you do an updated video including the Final Fantasy tcg, I've been trying to grow the game at my locals and I feel a video would be eye-opening whether good or bad.
2:25 I thought it was a joke. In Yu-Gi-Oh some of the best cards can go alone by 50€ each lol. Will be checking out the tutorial for this game tonight, thanks for making these sort of videos
just few months ago we had a deck go 1500k€ is for an event. that was the second best deck. ever since pandemic west is getting milked, Ocg is fine doe and on digimon level in terms of pricing.
Modern mainly stand out fron the 2 oldest formats vintage and legacy which include nearly all cards. There's also pioneer which has become really popular and a bit more than modern. Standard is the ugly duck that no one likes to play because of rotation and limited cardpool. While commander is just popular based on how casual or competitive you want your deck to be.
Funny enough, some of the RB1 reprint booster is actually going to knock down some of these prices-- especially for the most used Digi-Tamas.
Also, I know a lot of this is based on TCG Player, but as someone who more or less trades to get their decks, I've actually spent less for Shine AND BWG because of my box pulls, tournament wins and etc. If you are active in Digimon, costs actually get cheaper if you got a healthy community and tournament scene.
Side side note; BlueFlare is currently topping on the US side along side Mirage-- both decks being around the 50 mark w/ the main boss mon or Burst mode being around $10 per copy outside of Alt Arts. Shine/BWG has the more price for sure but there are other meta decks (Machines come to mind which almost topped against Blue Flare last Regional I went too) so, yeah Digi be cheap if you know how to play the trade game.
one the the not big but most constant priceouts was the colored Memory boost cards ussuly being 3 to five dollars each. now they don't even break 50 cents due to the reprints.
Ya Sheoldred is pretty damn expensive, but it's also such a strong card. One thing to keep in mind about the prices though, at least if you're playing on Arena or something you aren't spending that same kind of money, you can use wildcards to just pick things you want, even if the game is pretty stingy about giving you wildcards. Or you can also just get lucky in booster packs, or trade for it if you know some one else who plays.
I don't play black or green very often so if I got some good black cards, i'd probably just give them to my little step brother, and he'd give me anything blue or white. I think I actually gave him a sheoldred.
Not only Digimon decks are cheaper but in my experience I can also sell a deck to someone at locals way easier compared to other TCGs. People will often have multiple decks that they like.
dude if you buy a booster box you just get so many rare hits man its crazy
and when the game first game out digimon booster boxes were like 50$
pokemon boosters around the same time were like 130 and they were really hit or miss lol
Magics formats really only get very expensive when you hit formats like commander or legacy. A competitive list of my commander deck would currently cost around $3.66k
I spent 180 USD for my royal knights deck. All of those lv7s along with a jesmon GX
Yeah , i think thats the main selling point of digimon , Is that everyone can get in with somewhat little investment , Blue Flare deck which does have a bit of impact in Meta can be found around 70$ tops but modt i see for 50$ , Wargreymon deck 100$ Tops maybe 150$ if including the news sets , And even fully bling deck is quite cheap , My friend has full AA alphamon For around 400 if im not wrong
While talking about price ranges I'm curious what's going to happen with Disney's Lorcana. I wanted to get into it with my fiance as sort of a game we could play together or with others if she likes it, but regular cards are already in the 50s with alt arts way up in the 2 to 300s and everywhere around here went bone dry in nearly a day.
Scalpers unfortunately looking to take advantage of the Disney brand. What's cool though is that Ravensburger already confirmed they're going to print more cards so you'll get your chance soon 😁
I would like to see the comparisons of price of booster boxes and single packs.
Digimon isn't cheap, everything else is just stupidly overpriced.
Your video still represents the standard meta well. There's a recent shift due to a set dropping a couple of days ago but Mono red is not a particuarly good deck outside of best of one in magic arena. Sorry you couldn't get a consistent answer on "what's the best format to represent the game" because it's a bit of a complicated subject depending on who you ask. For what's worth do, if you end up getting a group together to play commander the game can be extremely cheap if they all agree to play on a budget and with precon decks.
If you Play modern in Magic Just the Mana Base ist around 500€ for many Decks
I play Yugioh but I'm really interested in playing Digimon. I already have an Beelzemon deck but I'm not familiar on how to play because I have no one to play with. I wish there was an up to date Digimon TCG Simulator to play
Funny enough when it comes to the one piece tcg decks that are considered not very good end up being dirt cheap to build and can top decks like Katakuri, Zoro, etc. Colors also play a factor in what matchup will be in your favor. Black is an example which can do incredibly well against yellow and even Zoro
this is true for all card games actually. in ygo the meta is formed between decks that win fast and decks made to beat that win. for example: Oh the meta is Tearlament that uses graveyard a lot? going to play a deck that banishes everything before hitting the grave so they can't play.
Off topic, would you ever do a Teppen video? I enjoy the way you do analysis and present info and I know you play it too
That's actually crazy you asked this today lmaoooo!
@@TasteOfVictoryLMAO NO WAY
I'm so use to spending a lot of money for my yu gi oh decks coming to digimon 2 years ago man I could never play another expensive card game
Mono-R in MtG is always waiting to pop up and irritate a format with a ton of low rarity cards. 😁
I used to play yugioh, Now I play manly MTG and some Digimon. I do believe MTG has an issue with being compared by price when it has so many distinct formats. There's pauper (only commons) that is super cheap and amazingly diverse and powerfull and then vintage, there thousands of dollasrs is the cheap side of it.
Standard shifts a lot in magic, I personally play modern the most and that's a very common competitive format in paper, standard has MTG arena so it's commonly played online, pioneer hasn't been played a lot because it's sort of stagnated and stuck with just a couple of decks. And we just don't do paper vintage/legacy, magic online prices for those decks would be best to check instead of paper prices.
Nice video. Hope you could do this with flesh and blood as well
14:55 you just described DBS funnily enough lol
Something that wasn't noted about magic is that standard has a rotation period meaning that deck you just bought is only playable for about a year then you either have to swap out cards to try to compete with the new meta or move twords an eternal format like modern where the cheapest meta deck is almost $500.
FWIW Wizards actually just increased its rotation period to 3 years for exactly that reason, going up from 2 years. The most recent set released this month is the first set released after this change, and won’t be rotated out until September 2026. The oldest set in standard (released sep 2021) wont rotate out until next year, and the 2022 sets the year after.
i made my deck of tyrannomon for around 15$, not competitive but damn, for the price of a starter deck, not bad
You likely tried to take that MTGGoldfish screenshot in-between the prerelease and release window.. rough timing.
Sure digimon puts a lot of cards as promos, but those promos are always easily enough obtainable.
It would be different if event packs and box toppers had cards other then reprints but luckily it’s only max rarity that gets thrown off from those.
There's no official distribution for digimon tcg in Brazil yet, unfortunately.
So it's actually quite expensive here since everything is imported.
It be a big shame, a friend got me into it and was thinking of buying a couple things but since everything is imported the prices for everything get doubled.
So i have gotten into collecting tcgs recently and yeah the prices of some cards are crazy i think i would need to sell pretty much all cards i own to buy "the pretty ones"
As a very old yugioh player often playing meta decks. I find magic very very cheap even for fully foil decks. I played the full max rarity tele dad deck with crush card (gold) so card games like digimon I find to be stupidly cheap. Like pocket change haha
Damn, ruin mode was 45 dollars? Thats crazy... *boughts a ruinmode for 108 on its peak*
Great video! Would have loved if it included Dragon Ball Super card game (love that gane personally, but it's not that popular).
Thanks for the effort and research!!
well top meta decks are expensive in every tcg, but i got my tier 2 - tier 3 deck for like 15 bucks
source material wise i love one piece more than anything... but the prices are rediculous i hope it doesnt kill the game. digimon however is my fav TCG to PLAY. i love the memory system and the card mechanics. i love the art and MON as well. great cheap game to olau with my son.