The fact that she finished the whole game and didn’t just give up and switch to a different one earns all my respect cuz I got a headache just imagining playing that
You are damm right! I tried to play digimon world 4 (i guess it was?) with my 2 cousins for like 3 years before we gave up! AND WE DIDN'T EVN GOT THE CHANCE TO EVOLVE ONE DIGIMON NEITHER GET TRHOUGHT THE FIRST ACT OF THE MAIN STORY! The only good memories I got from a digimon game is fightng one wich name I can't recall... rumble arena maybe? I don't know and I don't want to bothr google with that
as someone who grew up with this game, i went from “oh she didn’t like it?” to “yeah i remember that…oh yeah i remember that too…” amazing what the child brain puts up with
Seriously! I 100%ed my file of Digimon World Dusk and I look back on it with nostalgia glasses as my favorite game ever but if I tried playing it again today I think I would put my head through a woodchipper
Yeah... I could even forgive the use cheat codes, with the me now, for Dawn and/or Dusk. The grind is much more maddening now that I'm an adult, compared to when I was a kid.
I think a lot why we put up with this kind of shit a kids, is that (if you were lucky, like me) we just had soooo much time to kill, and it didn't matter that much if the game wasted a lot of it with grinding or pointless fetch quests. I played a lot of Runescape, WoW, early Pokemon games, etc growing up, but I wouldn't consider touching those as an adult with a full time job - my free time is more valuable than that now. I still occasionally play Pokemon Showdown, though, because I can just do the actually fun parts for me: build teams, then fight strangers with them!
Lol yeah if you liked a particular franchise even if the game was terrible you somehow found things to like and look back on with nostalgia.....just dont replay it lol
I am a Digimon ANIME fan, not a digimon game fan. The games can go swimming. The shows are mostly good and the characters AGE! Development! Aaaangst! You would absolutely love the baddies of the first two seasons. Highly recommend. Heard the card game was better than the video games, but haven’t tried myself yet. Glad you like the designs! Have fun coming up with your own Digimon and its stages.
yeah i tried both Dw1 and 3 (skipped 2 because not into the gameplay) and neither are really that good mechanically. on 1 it was basically guesswork on criteria to evolve your digimon and on 3? it was pretty generic rpg but it forces you to backtrack constantly and even with "vehicle" it only save at most 4 screens vs you going to places without one.
fun fact: The card game we have now has actually been revamped pretty recently (If you count recently being a few years ago). They're completely different from the ones that were released in the 2000's
Yeah, I grew up watching the firs three seaons (or the first two + tamers), unaware of the games as child. A few years ago I even bought the DVD-box of the entire Tamers-season, 'cause I loved it so much as a child, and held up pretty well, when I rewatched as an adult. Opposite when it comes to Pokemon; played the first few games, but watched very little of the anime, as I just wasn't invested.
The card game is actually great. And I’m not even too nostalgia cope-brained. Deck building and balancing is so damn fun. Like the most fun I’ve had with a card game. Btw I mean the new card game. The old one is weird and very much discontinued.
I feel the reason it was so difficult to find a game people unanimously liked is because Digimon has a record of changing up the formula with almost every new game. So you'll get people that love the tamagotchi like experience of Digimon World or those that like the traditional JRPG style of Cyber Sleuth. While some variety is nice in a franchise on occasion, the level Digimon has taken it to fans don't know what to expect so there are many folks with strong opinions on what makes a good Digimon game.
That's why it's hard to get in on the fandom, it's hard to find a game as is but the learning curve is even greater. For example she didn't mention digiconvertion and digievolution. Which has many a branching paths. etc
Street Fighter series kinda has a similar problem but to a lesser extent. 2 is a game balanced around extremely powerful tools that check each other (mostly), 3 is all about parry, 4 is dominated by setplay and option selects, 5 is mostly a frame trap game. They’re all 2D fighting games but all feel radically different
she said "bitch lasagna" in Japan Trip outro (I think it was that one), and has been known to swear frequently in collabs. I'm glad she feels more comfortable doing it
At the beginning of the video, when I was trying to think of what the best Digimon game would be, having played Digimon World 2, 3, Championship, Dawn and Dusk and knowing stuff about 1, I was thinking that Dawn/Dusk would be the best choice, because they don’t get out of control as easily as 1 and Championship do, and they’re more fun than 2, and they’re not a hellscape like 3. I remember really enjoying playing through both Dawn and Dusk-I played Dusk with an Action Replay when I was a kid, and then I played through Dawn without any hacking just a couple of years ago-so I was really surprised that someone who seems so much more experienced with gaming than me would have such a bad reaction to it...
@@autumnphillips151 you also have to remember Dawn and Dusk were made with Digimon fans in mind. If you know how evolution works in a general sense in the franchise(as an example) then the evolution trees and stat requirements might not be as daunting as to a new player, but if your new then without a proper tutorial it could come off as tedious since it could get very confusing.
True. I remember getting a Digimon game for PS1 as a kid and I hated it. Really wanted to like it because I loved the show so much but it wasn't for me
I love how Jaiden came out of this being like "I hated this so much, it was agony! But Digimon's kinda cool." which apparently is every Digimon fan's opinion on it.
I personally never really played any Digimon game ( I guess except for Digimon rumble Arena 2, basically a smash bros version, which was really fun) but most of them looked rather boring to me. But I really enjoyed the TV series of them. I would guess that's from where most the Digimon enjoyers come from, not from the games.
You've learned the real lesson of Digimon games: You don't *find* a Digimon game you like playing, you *allow* a Digimon game to rewire your sense of fun until you're the kind of person who likes the game that's been driving you mad for hours.
@@thelittlestkovo yeah that’s one thing about this game grinding feels rewarding when you get to evolve your digimon although one thing that I hated was when my digimon didn’t have enough IQ so I had to devolve it again to then evolved again to then grand more XP to finally get the evolution I wanted to evolve it into but couldn’t because it didn’t have enough IQ or whatever is called what you needed for your digimon to reach higher levels.
Lizards, and Salamanders, becoming legless is actually very common in Evolution. See Snakes and Cieciliains(likely misspelled but look up legless Amphibians). Still This Video is Cute and ADORABLE! Great Job and also Thank You for the English Subtitles too! :)
Ya my personality problem with the digimon game is that most have a good concept, but they always add that one mechanique that makes game way to over the top grindy and drags it down way to much.
as a digimon fan who’s been wanting to play a digimon game , the feeling of spending days and days researching which one is good to start with is 100% accurate 😭
I think an important initial step in the research is if you are looking to have limited party members you keep the whole time like the Digimon World games or if you want pokemon with extra steps (and guns) where you can grab yourself a whole zoo of monsters which Cyber Sleuth and Dusk/Dawn find themselves in.
Cyber Sleuth has given me the closest pokemon experience. I played pkmn since gen 1 and only found Sleuth to be more pkmn than the others. I spent hours getting all the mons due to my pokemon habbit and keep forgetting what to do next. I actually love the game enough that I got both the digital and physical copies for switch.
I knew it seemed rather quick that a new video was out! At first I just thought I was late to the last video and didn't realize it when I watched it, but naaah, two whole videos in a month! Jaidon's on a roll!
@@joemitchell1796 It's the only way I can play these games anymore... quite literally because my cartridges keep crashing lol. at least it makes the grinding in the late game less painful, especially in World DS- like why is Chronomon so beefed up compared to everything else beforehand?
i seriously love digimon and every one of their games but they definitely aren't for everyone😭if anyone wanted to get into digimon id recommend watching the anime first and foremost
TBH at this point I know I ONLY like World 1 and Redigitize, the others are either generic JRPGs, or experiment with the gamedesign so hard, they are riddled with waaaaay too much bs. Also the combat in World1 and Redigitize are exactly what I always wanted to combat in pokemon to be
@@onlineskitty watching this video made me really wonder if Pokémon fans really have it all THAT bad when you take a look at Digimon games lol! Only game there that sounded appealing was cyber sleuth
@@animationdude9 honestly yeah. i see pokemon fans complaining about their games and then looking at digimon and going "this is the innovation the franchise needs!!" but honestly that just isnt true. i think pokemon fans need to realize that no matter what GF does there's never really going to be the "perfect game", someone's always gonna be unhappy. i'm just an optimist who happens to like everything. pokemon has it's faults but there are good things about it too, same with digimon.
As a ginormous Digimon fan, this video was pretty eye opening. She’s right, there is no one perfect Digimon game to jump into. I can only conclude that maybe the reason we love the games stems from our love for the show.
I would honestly say to a pokemon fan that Dusk and Dawn are the most pokemon like of the games. Definitely pick up and put down type games, similar to how pokemon could end up being a grind fest before exp share was a thing. However, I'd reccomend the Switch bundle of Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory. I'd bought the latter on ps4 because it looked like a 3d Dusk (and was on sale). But the pick up and put down part makes it more palatable than, say, a full blown video game (if saying that even makes sense, they're not a six hour session, more a, couple of hours before work the next day, kinda pace.) Cyber sleuth takes the DS game and makes a lot of it better. Sure it can get repetitive, but at least it's far less frustrating. Hackers Memory gives new side quest mechanics too. I watched most of the first run on TV, quite a lot of the second, and some of tamers. Had the clip on digivice with renamon on it in high-school, it went off a few times at almost the worse times haha. But like, I honestly prefer the games after playing them. I think the translation of the anime was aimed at younger kids and the age demographic never went up. Tried to watch the ghosts season and couldn't get past three episodes. Probably why my mother couldn't stand digimon as a whole and always changed the channel xD
I disagree, I love the games and only watched the show after playing them. So many options and so many cool stories... sure it's not as kiddie friendly as pokemon and deciding where to start isn't as easy as picking up ANY game but that's part of the fun to me.
I grew up with both and honestly, I always thought that Digimon excelled at the show, but was poor with games- and Pokémon was meh in the show but excelled with its games.
As a brand new fan, I just want to say that animating an entire game review like this is really impressive. The amount of effort YOU AND YOUR TEAM are putting into your content is not going unnoticed.
As someone who absolutely loves this franchise, I think many of us still recognize that, game by game, season by season, the quality can vary wildly. Like, "Swing from A- to D+ in a year" wildly. Thanks for giving it a shot!
It's really interesting how Jaiden's experience shows that digimon is not a videogame franchise. It's a tamagochi franchise that has a lot of anime adaptation, most of them completly independent from each other, and sometimes gets some games, most of them in different genres.
Well the one she is playing is a part of the Digimon story series a long chain of loosely connected games. Typically connected by character cameos or the plots of Yggdrasil/king drasil and are all rpg style games. The World games are traditionally an open world breeder game closer to a console tamagotchi. Then you have rumble games which are the fighting game of the franchise. Then you got survive the first visual novel. Trouble is these games are not like Pokémon and usually can’t be beaten without grinding and planned and raising for certain evolution paths. You will have maxed out Digimon by the end.
@@loganjoyce5045 The Digimon Story games are connected. But yeah, the problem with Digimon games is how it's VERY varied. That being said, that is thankfully being (somewhat) managed now in terms of consistency. EX: Story games are traditional rpgs, while the current World games (Re:Digitize, Next Order) are related to the original Digimon World. As for Survive, it was supposed to be a side project. *Also, the Digimon lore will continue to be insane with or without the Digimon games. Even in the first series, the lore is a lot, especially if you go through the Adventure Light Novel.*
@@fjorigg the grind is SO real, but is it more of a grind than any other pokemon game? Genuine question since I never finished a single pokemon game because I get bored of it pretty quick.
@@fjorigg so the grind comes from post-game and doing PvP then? Guess that makes sense since it's for kids on the playground. But as far as a game to stream/let's play, I think Cyber Sleuth would be an awesome Janimation choice for her. 🤞
As an actual fan of both franchises, I 100% recommend Cyber Sleuth, even if you're just going to play it for yourself. It's really fun and the story is pretty neat. You're like a digi detective in modern Tokyo and it's kind of noir in a fun way.
Omg I love Cyber Sleuth. It’s honestly great. The story is good but the battles are what really make me love it. They are so immersive and not even that easy all the time. The only thing is, it’s a long ass game… like I am at over 120 hours and just finished the first one. I’m now on Hacker’s memory and already spent hours upon hours on it.
Well she did point out how iy wasn't the channel content. Then again, maybe she can make a seperate video and play that, from what I hear it's really fun.
The most real thing about being a digimon fan is honestly just enjoying the designs. It's a very cool concept with some of the coolest looking creatures in the genre. But we have just come to accept that there will be no perfect game. Every iteration has some great things about it, but there's always a part of it that'll drag it down. (Usually the confusing/grindy story progression)
I was only exposed through the shows (which are surprisingly great, better than pokemon shows imo), but I got the feeling no one really understands how digimon are supposed to work, and everyone, fans and creators, are just in it for the cool monsters.
At least for the time being, I've seen basically nothing but praise for the TCG. That said, it's still new compared to MTG, Yugioh or Pokemon. So, there's still plenty of time for it to take the same path of power creep that those did.
9:00 For someone who probably knows very little about Warhammer 40K, this encounter is so well animated. It’s also funny to me that the Mages of the Imperium would find a way into the Digimon universe of all places
as a digimon fan, your description of how the fandom seems like it's grasping to hope after being hurt over and over is 100% accurate. I love digimon but instead of having any consistency they rebuild everything from the ground up and I'm convinced kBandai Namco doesn't give a shit about the western side of the fanbase at all
It's the Bandai side of things that's the issue. They're basically Japanese LJN - sometimes they'll put out a great game, but they'd just as happily create three terrible or just painfully mediocre games instead. Seriously, trying to get into their work is designed to be as confusing as possible to anyone outside of a hardcore fanbase.
Nah don't worry, they don't give a shit about the japanese side either. China has the best exclusive shit but that's the thing, because of chinese legislation they probably don't get a lot of the console games either. (I don't actually know tho I haven't looked into it)
Digimon is like Marvel and DC in terms of how big their Verse is. It. Every verse and version is Canon and their worlds connect in a large multiverse. Every experience isn't meant to be exactly the same and expands a bit more and more.
Yeah if you're coming from a Pokemon background I think Cyber Sleuth is a good starting point, it's easy to wrap your head around with a Pokemon mindset. Digimon World Next Order is a good example of what I consider a more "traditional" Digimon game, where the focus is more on raising and bonding with your Digimon and the fighting is kind of secondary, but it's a very specific type of game that if you aren't sure what you're getting into will probably be frustrating until you get the hang of it.
Cyber sleuth, cs hacker's memory, next order, rumble arena 1 and 2 are the only ones worth playing and I say this as a Digimon fan since I was a child. I guess Survive is ok too if you're into visual novels, although it's a hard sell. Bandai doesn't seem to know what direction to give Digimon games which is unfortunate. I think Cyber Sleuth was in the right direction imo.
I only watched a few let's plays of different digimon games and decided to get cyber sleuth without really knowing what kind of game it was Because I really got to love digimons regardless
Digimon dusk was my first digimon game as a kid and Jesus christ playing that as a kid changed me, the hours I spent playing it trying to finish it I can feel deep within my soul to this very day. I remember being stuck in the Macro sea as well and ended up drawing a map of it when I first played. Lord help us.
Yeah, buth dusk/dawn and digimon world ...dats? I believe was the other ds one, have both that really anoying, really dificult wather maze, I remember losing miself while playing it and just doing all other missions just because I didn't want to go there again... wich is a shame because I actually love digimon and like both games a lot T-T
I only played Digimon DS as a kid but had so many fond memories of it that I replayed DS and played throw Dusk and Dawn about a year ago. And yes, Marco sea was a nightmare the first time, but it was way easier the second time.
What's really funny is that I think she still chose the best Digimon game. Once you get used to the idea that your Digimon can, with the right work, turn into literally any other Digimon...it's fun.
I also played world DS, but I only got to play Dawn. What I loved is that my first born digiscaned was a pagumon and I made him go threw the Demidevimon route I was so hyped to get a Lilithmon but when I evolved to Myotismon I saw that I needed another Lilithmon. So I went backwards to use the impmon route and boy when I made Mummy boy that he was broken, he literally had the highest stats I ever saw in my team and his skills were amazing everything I had in his roster went from high AoE damage, or effects like HP, MP drain or paralyze.
Jaiden should play cyber sleuth. Its has two different stories and unlike other games you can call digimon to you or keep them away with certain hacking skills. Its a lot of fun.
And it is a bit better than shy-nervous-person storytime. You sort of need a lot of interesting stories for something like that which are harder to come by when you don't interact with people a ton. This is a lot more sustainable, stories are on demand.
Little does Jaiden know that reading through endless digivolving charts, getting lost in straight line dungeons and sometimes shit stories IS OUR THERAPY!
Exactly, how much time I have spent making the stats to my mon perfect in world or getting each member to have x scissor in world 2. Both those games had maxed time saved in multiple play throughs
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I was like, "She didn't mention cybersleuth, she didn't mention cybersleuth," then she mentioned it and that the community agreed it's good. Then she said it wasn't what she was looking for and a figurative table flipped in my brain
I'm not an animator, but I imagine that there are some games that just don't have the type of playthrough that lends itself to Jaiden's style of animated storytelling. Like there's a lot less Pokémon Colloseum content around than a lot of other games that are objectively worse/less loved, and there's probably a reason for that. She did say that she would probably enjoy playing cybersleuth for fun in her free time.
@@Jeshiae Yeah I agree like cyberslueth even if you do the bare minimum is still a big time investment. My first playthrough was like 55ish hours but it was even longer in real time because i decided to do the whole “tactician usb” save scumming because even that would have been shorter than just flat out grinding. Granted if you dont really care too much about what team you take to the end game you can probably cut it down to 30-40 hours because there is just so many cutscenes. But honestly the story and twists including hackers memory I really didnt expect to be so damn good like most games dont have that good of story telling and characters you end up caring about damn sure not a monster collector game. I remember after finishing it my first time I just sat there like…damn pokemon will never come close to this level of story or gameplay/building which is sad i love pokemon but the closest they have gotten to cyberslueth good was arceus which is honestly the direction i wished they continued in.
@@poopikins nah, she had like 5 million subscribers at least before the nuzlockes. Obviously the nuzlocke videos are massive but if you look at any of her other storytime videos they have like 20-30 million views too which is insanely good
Possible hot take: it's understandable she tried to get into Digimon via the games because, in the case of Pokemon, people love it because of the games and tolerate the lukewarm anime. It's sadly the other way around with Digimon: we love Digimon because of the anime and tolerate the lukewarm games.
@@fajarwinmoney Except for Pokemon that's now reversed too, with how... unpolished the recent games were (and because the Pokemon anime actually became really, really good starting with Sun & Moon).
@@fajarwinmoney Digimon anime has a special place in my heart and I love it's uniqueness every season too!(Frontier is amazing, Tamers too, Adventure 1 and 2 is also amazing(that's where my love for Digimon started)
The easiest thing I can say for "getting into Digimon games" is the Anime is your gateway. From that point, the games just become "build a team of your favorites because very few Digimon are outright bad." And you go from there. Even in games like Cyber Sleuth where the Digimon-ing is a backdrop for the story to run wild against.
This game only came out in the US and Japan, and not in Europe but I wanted it so desperately. My grandma was going on holiday to the US, so I asked her for one thing- if she could find it at a used games store over there could she get it for me. She found it on the last day, after calling around several stores, and driving all over Florida to find it. That was the best birthday gift ever and I played it for MONTHS SOLID. I loved it. I loved the art style, I loved the story, even the little fetch quests. I got so good at memorizing the maps out of muscle memory. Now that she's no longer with me, I hold this game, box, manual very dear to my heart... partly for the countless hours of joy it gave me, and partly for the effort my grandma went through to get me a copy. It holds a very very special place in my heart...
Man, as a Digimon fan this was fun to watch. I love the franchise and it is definitely hard to get hyped for a lot of things in it, but it was really great seeing stuff from Jaidens perspective. I hope she gets to enjoy all the digimon she ended up liking more in Cyber Sleuth.
@sirgabrielofcandel smark She doesn't want to play it for the channel since it wasn't what she was looking for for the content, but would be interested for casual playing
The digimon fanbase is very divisive because almost every digimon game is completely different than the last. Like you said, every iteration of Digimon World is a different style of rpg. This is good in a way, because it means people with different tastes can enjoy a digimon game they enjoy, but bad because there is little to no cohesive formula in the series overall. Unlike pokemon, which has only just started to change it's formula within the last few years. Cyber Sleuths is widely considered the best overall, which means a lot in such a divisive fanbase.
I wheezed when Jaiden was surprised with how Digivolution works. There's plenty like that in Digimon. My favourite has to be where an Ice Bear digimon evolves into a Giant Penguin Digimon with two huge popsicles that act as magnets (Daipenmon)
@@Dylan781 just wait til you hear about the blob that becomes a dog, which turns into a cat, which turns into an Angel lady. Then it turns into a big pink dragon.
Wait for her to see how from a dog evolves info a cat an after that to a woman and after that info a dragon or an archangel also if the ángels is evil to become a demon lord
Glad to hear you're considering Cyber Sleuth (And Hacker's memory), both are amazing experiences that I'd say are pretty comparable to Pokemon, but with some detective work thrown in. Also, I'd say the thing that really divides Pokemon and Digimon fans is the media. Pokemon fans seem to be more into the games, whereas Digimon fans are more into the anime. Adventure 01, 02, Tamers, and maybe 2020 are great animes, with Adventure Tri and Kizuna being amazing movies that I'd recommend if you wanna get more into Digimon.
Frontier is also great. It had some weird Power- and Hight- Scaling here and there but overall was very consistent in bringing out enjoyable episodes. Also Lucemon and Koichi are top tier. Tamers to be honest has the most of my favourite moments but can get very boring for a few episodes untill they get a top scene out again. Adventure 01 and 02 great even for beginners. Never got into Data Squad. Making it Edgy doesn't equal more adult. And all this human drama was just annoying. Cross Wars/Fusion. Had the most annoying and useless main cast. (Sadly had to stop watching) But so cool side and enemy digimon. I think MC ditched his useless friends after halfway in the series because they weren't in the intro anymore and the 2 rivals looked interesting. (But I didn't wanted to fight myself to get to that point) Ghost Game, is good but has no story. All these filler non fight episodes get frustrating. Oh look another ultimate digimon while angoramon is still just a Rookie, I wonder if they win in a fight or do some other shenanigens. Oh 10 episodes were we didn't mention the plot, time for Black Tailmon to stand somewhere at the end of the episode. Adventure Reboot overall good but too fast at the start and put filler between the last two big boss fights for no reason. Taichi is in his friends episodes for no reason and the crests get no explaination and are pretty unimportant.
@@QueenOfDarknes5 Yeah I feel pretty similarly about the anime franchise. Love Adventure 1 & 2 despite their flaws, though I like Tamers just a bit more for introducing some darker moments and having them fit into the anime in a non-intrusive manner. I saw Frontier recently and while I enjoyed it more than I thought I would have, it's a hard recommend for anyone who's strapped for time. Naemon is a bean though
@@hunterkeps9058 my opinion is different by a wide margin. Adventure is fine, but it's massively overrated by the fandom. Tamers is the peak quality-wise and even though most agree, it ends up looking underrated because of how overrated Adventure is. Frontier was... okay. They tried something different, it didn't end up working too well. Savers is amazing, it's my personal favourite and I'd say it's just slightly behind Tamers quality-wise. While Tamers is more consistently good, Savers has higher highs and lower lows. Xros Wars... exists. Like, it isn't bad per se, but it gets questionable a lot. I've watched 23 episodes thus far and I've had two long breaks from it already. Tri I really dislike. The first two movies were fine, but the rest got consecutively worse and worse. They had cool ideas, but completely botched the execution. Appmon and Adventure: I haven't watched yet. Ghost Game had a really strong start, but quite a few of the later episodes are mediocre and forgettable, which hurts an episodic series far more than a serialized one.
@@growasowa3444 Appmon turned out to be FAR more enjoyable than I'd expected going into it. (The Adventure remake turned out to be far LESS enjoyable than I'd expected, even without the endless feelings of "why is this an Adventure remake? Like, just make a new series. You've changed it too much to rely on the nostalgia any more". It really felt like they'd learnt nothing from the reception to Tri.)
Jaiden and her team must really be going to their limits, I mean 2 videos a month is absolutely insane. Animation and all that is not an easy job so I’m so impressed and grateful that they’ve somehow managed to pull this off. Keep up the good work you guys. :)
It's genuinely hilarious when Pokemon fans unfamiliar with Digimon learn about how cracked out the evolution lines in Digimon can be. It's part of why I love them so much. If you want a clear digivolution line that makes complete and total sense then you can do that. Augmon, a small dinosaur, to MetalGreymon, a giant dinosaur. but if you wanted, you could start with a goblin and end as a sexy death flower digimon.
I know right? I've been with digimon from the beginning, never stopped loving it...except Xros wars...that annoyed me, and Frontier was..well..Frontier. but the games are usually ok. Dawn was a bad choice to begin though
Digimon world Dawn/Dusk was a blast for me. The series as a whole is very grindy if you wanna get very cool endgame digimon though. If you're cool with that definitely give them a try
ngl as a digimon fan since childhood, i've just kind of accepted over the years that sometimes, its best to just experience some franchises as only the anime. and sometimes, digimon really feels like one of those.
"It seemed like I walked in on a fandom that has just been hurt over and over, and they're really trying to hang on to something and believe in the good of the franchise... but they've just been put through a lot." Excellent summary of the Digimon fandom. We are constantly looking for any scrap of content we can find, but a lot of the games we're given are confusing at best and deeply flawed at worst.
agreed. For now the most fun I have been having with Digimon is the VB and other vpet stuff. The anime is like the games too, they try some new gimmick and that could be a hit or miss.
I'm not trying to insult you or start a fight, but why are you a fan? Is their some great game hidden in this series, just buried under decent at best game? Was the cartoon that good that it kept people on it for decades? What is it?
@@Enchie im just gonna say it, Digimon learned to evolve with his audience and the time passed more and more mature games came out with their own gameplays, like digimon Regiditalize and cyber sleuth, what we adore about of digimon is the that they take to talk with the audience and evolve with them like they most recen game Digimon survive.
@@Enchie Probably the series. I enjoyed Digimon world 4, digimon rumble arena 2 and cyber sleuth. FYI... each of those is a completely different type of game.
Ngl, Ive only heard about you and your channel just a couple of days ago, but your storytelling/commentary is as hilarious as DankPods's that Ive been compelled to delve into what other misadventures you embark in your channel. Here's to more wacky geek shenenagins!
As a Pokémon fan who has complained about Pokémon games being too easy and hand holdy you would think that being dropped in a world and be told to figure it out would be something you would find refreshing
As someone who grew up liking Pokemon and Digimon, the Digimon anime got fans interested and hooked on the franchise. Dubbed or subbed, the animes for both franchises were the gateway to a mystical fantasy world filled with cool monsters that kids loved. Pokemon found a formula that their fans liked and the company rewrapped future games into oblivion, with minor but largely successful spin-offs here and there. Digimon games were a trying testament to the fans' faith in the franchise - either balls-to-the-walls challenging or endless grinding for smiggets of story. I've never heard ONE objectively good Digimon game (other than Digislueth) that captured some of the magic from its show besides the character designs.
there was one called Re Digitize, but it never left Japan. (though there is a fan translation) in any case, I feel like capturing the "magic" of the show would be near impossible in game format.
You can't really know what it will be except the fact they'll be Digimon, and Digimon are very cool. I'm one of those that got back to the franchise that got back to the franchise with Cyber Sleuth, and apparently I am also a Digifan now? I liked Survive, so I guess? Digimon are really cool.
Hey there Jaiden, I’m a huge fan of your channel and you never fail to make me smile and laugh 😊. After rewatching this video, hearing you love big monsters designs, I instantly thought of Monster hunter stories 1 and 2 on the switch : games like Pokemon where instead of hunting monster you befriend them and you fight in an turned based RPG. It made me want to continue the Stories 1 remake I haven’t finished so thank you. I also definitely recommend these games they’re amazing ! Again thank you Jaiden for all of your amazing videos.
@@FlashStatic It's more painful in how much you have to grind to Digivolve your Digimon. The mechanics are a lot more straightforward when it comes to how to get the Digimon you want (it's all linear evolution trees that you manually choose what you want to get instead of 'Oh, you accidentally let this Digimon's Speed stat get too high, so now when you Digivolve it you'll get something completely different from what you were trying to get'), and the combat is that nice, simple, turn based format.
As someone who has been with both Pokemon and Digimon since the very beginning I would confidently say the Cyber Sleuth games definitely would have been your best bet and I hope you play them in the future. The gameplay wouldn't be alien to a Pokemon player and the stories aren't bad at all with some nice funny moments. Also Digimon World 3, but only if you can tolerate old games like that.
Saddly, the Cyber Sleuth gales weren't translated into other language that English, deeply lowering the spreading of those games in Europe, it's a bit sad, futhermore in France where Digimon was rather popular in the 90/2000 and in a big nostalgia mood TwT
Speaking as a fan of the anime but never played any of the games before Cyber Sleuth, yeah, CS was the best game to start out for me. It satisfied what I was looking for in a Digimon game without any unnecessary complications.
As both a digimon and pokemon fan born and raised I can say I'm sorry that jaiden had to suffer the pain of digimon world dawn, but I'm proud that jaiden is attempting to make a try at enjoying the franchise
Should have played Digimon Rumble Arena imo. Easy mechanics, simple game with simple rules, and since it's just Smash with Digimon instead it's also relatively fun
I consider myself to be a digimon fan, and in my 2 decades of playing their games and watching their series, I only finished 2 series and not a single game. This video resonates with me in ways I didn't think possible. Great video as always, Jaiden.
@@WolfieboyMachi For me it was only Digimon Adventure 2 and Digimon 3 Tamers, those were my favorite animes of the franchise. Now I want to watch the others. Maybe I can find out what a Digimon is :V
Should have played Cyber Sleuth. It's about as story oriented as XD and you played that for the channel. Although it does have a lot of side quest, the digimon collecting and evolution system is great and really gets you invested in raising your digimon. I actually spent so much time raising my guys that before I knew it I had all the most powerful digimon in the game before I was even halfway done with the main story. And this was my first Digimon game.
the dungeon is still horribly designed. there's barely any map anywhere and if you lost your way and stopped playing for a while you can be really lost
@Brambl if you get lost you can just talk to the chick in the digilab and she'll literally tell you what to do. It's way more friendly to returning to after a long break than most JRPGs.
I think the second Cyber Sleuth really fixed a lot of the issues with the first. But if you play the second you'll be slightly lost in the story since it's the alt side of the first.
As a Digimon fan, I have never once played any of the games. I'm just a fan of the shows and movies. The first show just boils down to "a group of children get pulled into a dimensional rift that traps them in an artificial reality populated with digital monsters who mostly want to attack the kids but one group in particular helps them survive and try to get back to the actual world." The English theme song slaps.
It might be too late for this, but like how the Pokemon anime is more of an afterthought to the game, the Digimon games are more of an afterthought to the anime. I recommend watching the original show and Digimon tamers, if you have the time. Those two are the best this franchise has to offer in my opinion, and a great entry point into this beautiful mess.
I respecfully disagree. Watch the original and the second show and MAYBE give tamers a try. I believe some people like the fourth thingy, but I'd just stop watching at that point.
I agree. Jaiden might have been looking for only a game, but Digimon was popular because of the series. So I'd also recommend watching the series to see just why people who like Digimon would put up with such games. Also, while Jaiden is trying things other than Pokemon, she should also look into the final of 90's trifecta of "children save the world via battling with a battle 'pet' like thing" Metabots.
This video made me realize how important the path I took in the franchise was for me to enjoy it. I played dawn after watching the show and playing digimon world ds and I didn't realize how they didn't give you any proper introduction to the digimon franchise. Props for hanging in there!!!
The Digimon show is where it's really at. Idk much bout the game, but the Digimon series took over 5 years of my life growing up. I used to rewatch it regularly, as in rewatch the entirety of the first 2 seasons every month just for fun. Whilst I no longer do that, I still hype the greatness of the show
I would say the video games Cyber Sleuth and Survive are on par with the anime. World 1, ReDigitize, and Next Order too if you can get into the V-Pet RPG mechanics. And the under appreciated V-Tamer manga and Xros Wars manga. But the anime are good, especially the Japanese cuts. Sadly the American dubs of Digimon Adventure, 02, and Fusion, remove too much character depth and development.
We joke about how Pokemon has better games while Digimon has a better anime, but honestly, this video just cements how true that really is, at least in regard to the games.
Not only is the expressiveness in the animation great & the meme potential is THROUGH THE ROOF, but this is the first time we hear Jaiden swear without being cut off or bleeped.
You see the problem you encountered is time and change of how society behaves. Pokemon started as a game. So the original experience that created the fanbase can be played to this day and while there are Mangas, Animes and spin off titles, that could become someones first Pokemon experience, the overall concept is very strongly reflected through the main games and it's mechanics. Digimon didn't start as a normal game or Manga or Anime. The original Digimon experience was the Digimon Virtual Pets. They are practically Tamagotchis, but with training and leveling, that can lead to evolving your Digimon and the probably best selling part: Fighting your friends Digimons; like you would hang out and could connect your Digimon devices to fight each other. This was in 1997 and even better it was around the start of summer. At the time there were no smartphones or many different gaming consoles with internet connection and thousands of good games to play. Around the late 90s it was mostly common to meet with your friends and spend time outside. Also Tamagotchis were really popular, because they were like cute pets that you could take care of. Parents loved the idea of fulfilling a children wish for a pet, without having to take care of an actual pet. Now Digimon Virtual Pets were like better Tamagotchis because you could fight your friends with them. Considering this it might be more understandable how it's hard to really get into the Digimon franchise without being able to experience something that is just time exclusive. The best comparison would probably be Back to the Future II , when Marty shows kids of the future how to play an arcade game that he is really good at. For the kids of the future it just didn't compare anymore, with everything else being "better"/different. Practically with everyone owning a smartphone the appeal of battling your friends with a virtual pet you have to take care of and need to meet up to even use that feature, is just not exciting anymore or in any way modern.
I really appreciate the ability to use words like bitch and ass and stuff in these videos, it makes it feel more real and honestly its refreshing because we are surrounded by curse words in day to day speech and language anyway so seeing channels try to eliminate every mention of a curse word eventually just drives you insane
This could have been a completely different video if Jaiden had gone with Digimon World 1, and no I'm not saying that because I think it's better, but because I would have adored seeing her animate some of the undeniable bizarreness contained within that game.
Part of the problem, I think, is that a lot of Pokemon fans go into a Digimon game assuming it'll play more or less the same because of the franchise's stigma of being a "Pokémon clone." But Digimon games have never stuck to one single genre, and there's only really one game in the entire franchise that even came close to being a Pokémon copy (it's Digimon World 3, for those wondering).
Yeah but I still love the franchise and I grew up on it and people who think that digimon is a pokemon copy are uneducated and just need to stop they are judging something they don't understand and refuse to learn also digimon fans should not hate on pokemon fans because they are uneducated because at one point they were also uneducated and should learn to let somethings go and should still like their franchise but should not look down upon others because they are uneducated but should see an opportunity to teach another about their culture and this goes for other things other than just fandoms so do not judge something because you does not know anything about it learn and accept that you just won't like somethings and do not judge others because they do like something else than you
@@Raximus3000 It really isn't either, but megami tensei is the progenitor of monster catching games. Also, Digimon started as a v-pet line anyway. Very different from megami tensei
I see the video again, animated let’s play are amazing. If we stay in the games of fights and monster collection, "Dragon Quest Monster Joker" and "Spectrobes" would be really fun to discover!
Im so impressed that Jaiden and her team were able to get this kinda quality out in only 2 weeks after the last episode. Mad pops thats just insane! Keep it up Jaiden!
The fact that she finished the whole game and didn’t just give up and switch to a different one earns all my respect cuz I got a headache just imagining playing that
The funny thing is the game is intended to be played far beyond what she did
aha, YOU HAVE NO IDEA 🥲🥲🥲
I love digimon but man that game, i rage quited like 1 hour into it
Agreed. I have that game and I had to take a week-long break from just the first hour of playing!
You are damm right! I tried to play digimon world 4 (i guess it was?) with my 2 cousins for like 3 years before we gave up! AND WE DIDN'T EVN GOT THE CHANCE TO EVOLVE ONE DIGIMON NEITHER GET TRHOUGHT THE FIRST ACT OF THE MAIN STORY! The only good memories I got from a digimon game is fightng one wich name I can't recall... rumble arena maybe? I don't know and I don't want to bothr google with that
as someone who grew up with this game, i went from “oh she didn’t like it?” to “yeah i remember that…oh yeah i remember that too…” amazing what the child brain puts up with
Most kids never had the chance to explore lots of options cus money.
Seriously! I 100%ed my file of Digimon World Dusk and I look back on it with nostalgia glasses as my favorite game ever but if I tried playing it again today I think I would put my head through a woodchipper
Yeah... I could even forgive the use cheat codes, with the me now, for Dawn and/or Dusk. The grind is much more maddening now that I'm an adult, compared to when I was a kid.
I think a lot why we put up with this kind of shit a kids, is that (if you were lucky, like me) we just had soooo much time to kill, and it didn't matter that much if the game wasted a lot of it with grinding or pointless fetch quests. I played a lot of Runescape, WoW, early Pokemon games, etc growing up, but I wouldn't consider touching those as an adult with a full time job - my free time is more valuable than that now. I still occasionally play Pokemon Showdown, though, because I can just do the actually fun parts for me: build teams, then fight strangers with them!
Lol yeah if you liked a particular franchise even if the game was terrible you somehow found things to like and look back on with nostalgia.....just dont replay it lol
As a Digimon fan, you have no idea how right you are about the "fandom that has been hurt over and over, trying to hang on to something good"
aww hope u guys get a decent game soon
@@Akitsuki20_21 i mean, Digimon Cyber sleuth complete edition is posible The Best thing on The serie and it was out less than 5 years
I'd tell you about one, but is againts the rules.
V-pets: are we a joke to you?
@@Akitsuki20_21 For now it's just very thought provoking emotional animes.
I am a Digimon ANIME fan, not a digimon game fan. The games can go swimming. The shows are mostly good and the characters AGE! Development! Aaaangst! You would absolutely love the baddies of the first two seasons. Highly recommend. Heard the card game was better than the video games, but haven’t tried myself yet. Glad you like the designs! Have fun coming up with your own Digimon and its stages.
yeah i tried both Dw1 and 3 (skipped 2 because not into the gameplay) and neither are really that good mechanically. on 1 it was basically guesswork on criteria to evolve your digimon and on 3? it was pretty generic rpg but it forces you to backtrack constantly and even with "vehicle" it only save at most 4 screens vs you going to places without one.
fun fact: The card game we have now has actually been revamped pretty recently (If you count recently being a few years ago). They're completely different from the ones that were released in the 2000's
@@dandelion_fritters try Digimon Survive. It's basically the first anime in a VN + SRPG game format.
Yeah, I grew up watching the firs three seaons (or the first two + tamers), unaware of the games as child. A few years ago I even bought the DVD-box of the entire Tamers-season, 'cause I loved it so much as a child, and held up pretty well, when I rewatched as an adult. Opposite when it comes to Pokemon; played the first few games, but watched very little of the anime, as I just wasn't invested.
The card game is actually great. And I’m not even too nostalgia cope-brained. Deck building and balancing is so damn fun. Like the most fun I’ve had with a card game.
Btw I mean the new card game. The old one is weird and very much discontinued.
I feel the reason it was so difficult to find a game people unanimously liked is because Digimon has a record of changing up the formula with almost every new game. So you'll get people that love the tamagotchi like experience of Digimon World or those that like the traditional JRPG style of Cyber Sleuth. While some variety is nice in a franchise on occasion, the level Digimon has taken it to fans don't know what to expect so there are many folks with strong opinions on what makes a good Digimon game.
Pokemon doesn't change the formula enough while Digimon doesn't have enough consistency to stick. Figures.
That's why it's hard to get in on the fandom, it's hard to find a game as is but the learning curve is even greater. For example she didn't mention digiconvertion and digievolution. Which has many a branching paths. etc
Street Fighter series kinda has a similar problem but to a lesser extent. 2 is a game balanced around extremely powerful tools that check each other (mostly), 3 is all about parry, 4 is dominated by setplay and option selects, 5 is mostly a frame trap game. They’re all 2D fighting games but all feel radically different
@@mollywantshugs5944 Whereas the Digimon games are like if Street Fighter 3 was a turn-based tactics game and 4 was a dating simulator.
I'm out here way in left field clutching my Digimon World Championship, evolving every way that I can, shunned by all around me.
1. I love that Jaiden seems more expressive in this animation.
2. The game broke her so much, she actually cursed in an animation.
Surprised me too
yeah that was weird
she said "bitch lasagna" in Japan Trip outro (I think it was that one), and has been known to swear frequently in collabs. I'm glad she feels more comfortable doing it
At the beginning of the video, when I was trying to think of what the best Digimon game would be, having played Digimon World 2, 3, Championship, Dawn and Dusk and knowing stuff about 1, I was thinking that Dawn/Dusk would be the best choice, because they don’t get out of control as easily as 1 and Championship do, and they’re more fun than 2, and they’re not a hellscape like 3. I remember really enjoying playing through both Dawn and Dusk-I played Dusk with an Action Replay when I was a kid, and then I played through Dawn without any hacking just a couple of years ago-so I was really surprised that someone who seems so much more experienced with gaming than me would have such a bad reaction to it...
@@autumnphillips151 you also have to remember Dawn and Dusk were made with Digimon fans in mind. If you know how evolution works in a general sense in the franchise(as an example) then the evolution trees and stat requirements might not be as daunting as to a new player, but if your new then without a proper tutorial it could come off as tedious since it could get very confusing.
Let's be real, a large chunk of people aren't Digimon fans because of the games, they are fans because of the show.
Facts, watched the show when I was itty-bitty and LOVED it
True. I remember getting a Digimon game for PS1 as a kid and I hated it. Really wanted to like it because I loved the show so much but it wasn't for me
Yeah, I love the anime but I never liked any of the games
well... there is another option to being a fan of digimon... honestly sometimes i forget that digimon other than renamon exist...
Or they found the Angewomon fan art
I love the art so much. You’re not even a long time fan and yet the animations are stuffed with references and characters and I feel very happy today
That's because there's an awesome team working with Jaiden! I bet a few of them are Digimon fans and added in a bunch of references for other fans
Jaiden went from being an animator who likes pokemon to a pokemon player who likes animation
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ok i wont
Yes
@@tallerfrodo1262 🤓
yeah, and we all have too. 😂
@@tallerfrodo1262 Exactly.
I love how Jaiden came out of this being like "I hated this so much, it was agony! But Digimon's kinda cool." which apparently is every Digimon fan's opinion on it.
Stammer, lol autocorrect .
I personally never really played any Digimon game ( I guess except for Digimon rumble Arena 2, basically a smash bros version, which was really fun) but most of them looked rather boring to me. But I really enjoyed the TV series of them. I would guess that's from where most the Digimon enjoyers come from, not from the games.
Basically yeah 😂
Yeah she's a true fan now, we're all so proud of her
As a Digimon fan. Yes.
You've learned the real lesson of Digimon games: You don't *find* a Digimon game you like playing, you *allow* a Digimon game to rewire your sense of fun until you're the kind of person who likes the game that's been driving you mad for hours.
Honestly the Dawn/Dusk games ruined my brain because the grind was just so good. Now i need to grind
Like league of legends?
@@NG-gy6iv in a sense but i think you still keep your humanity
@@thelittlestkovo yeah that’s one thing about this game grinding feels rewarding when you get to evolve your digimon although one thing that I hated was when my digimon didn’t have enough IQ so I had to devolve it again to then evolved again to then grand more XP to finally get the evolution I wanted to evolve it into but couldn’t because it didn’t have enough IQ or whatever is called what you needed for your digimon to reach higher levels.
@@thelittlestkovo as a big dawn player… I also played Runescape
Lizards, and Salamanders, becoming legless is actually very common in Evolution. See Snakes and Cieciliains(likely misspelled but look up legless Amphibians). Still This Video is Cute and ADORABLE! Great Job and also Thank You for the English Subtitles too! :)
Caecilians
@@great2456 Gymnophiona
lol
when she said that the Digimon fandom is just hurting and desperate for a good video game, i felt that way too much
as a digimon fan yeah all of our games suck
As a digimon fan, same.
@@m.o.d.ethegod4182 survive is pretty good.
Ya my personality problem with the digimon game is that most have a good concept, but they always add that one mechanique that makes game way to over the top grindy and drags it down way to much.
*cries and sobs while nodding*
as a digimon fan who’s been wanting to play a digimon game , the feeling of spending days and days researching which one is good to start with is 100% accurate 😭
Start with a v-pet 😂 I feel like it really is one of the best ways to dip your feet
I think an important initial step in the research is if you are looking to have limited party members you keep the whole time like the Digimon World games or if you want pokemon with extra steps (and guns) where you can grab yourself a whole zoo of monsters which Cyber Sleuth and Dusk/Dawn find themselves in.
Cyber Sleuth has given me the closest pokemon experience. I played pkmn since gen 1 and only found Sleuth to be more pkmn than the others. I spent hours getting all the mons due to my pokemon habbit and keep forgetting what to do next. I actually love the game enough that I got both the digital and physical copies for switch.
Try digmon next order I played it with no previous digimon experience and found it quite fun so try that
Cyber Sleuth is something else.
2 videos in a month? Jaiden is truly a gift giver
Honestly! She’s amazing
and my gift, is getting the top comment
Thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot to watch the other video
YES
I knew it seemed rather quick that a new video was out! At first I just thought I was late to the last video and didn't realize it when I watched it, but naaah, two whole videos in a month! Jaidon's on a roll!
big worms is a lizard, that´s like the opposite of how evolution works
Snakes in real life: Am I A JOKE To YOU?
"I played the game, hated it but somehow still like Digimon" is honestly a great summary of what it's like being a Digimon fan.
i see myself in this comment and i dont like it.
me replaying digimon dusk for the fourth time lol
Played with speedup functionality, the DS games SLAP
@@joemitchell1796 It's the only way I can play these games anymore...
quite literally because my cartridges keep crashing lol. at least it makes the grinding in the late game less painful, especially in World DS- like why is Chronomon so beefed up compared to everything else beforehand?
That... Is genuinely beautiful.
I swear to God the first minute and 30 seconds of this video perfectly captures the Digimon fan experience. It has been a *_rough_* decade imo
Yep exactly.
i seriously love digimon and every one of their games but they definitely aren't for everyone😭if anyone wanted to get into digimon id recommend watching the anime first and foremost
TBH at this point I know I ONLY like World 1 and Redigitize, the others are either generic JRPGs, or experiment with the gamedesign so hard, they are riddled with waaaaay too much bs.
Also the combat in World1 and Redigitize are exactly what I always wanted to combat in pokemon to be
@@onlineskitty watching this video made me really wonder if Pokémon fans really have it all THAT bad when you take a look at Digimon games lol! Only game there that sounded appealing was cyber sleuth
@@animationdude9 honestly yeah. i see pokemon fans complaining about their games and then looking at digimon and going "this is the innovation the franchise needs!!" but honestly that just isnt true. i think pokemon fans need to realize that no matter what GF does there's never really going to be the "perfect game", someone's always gonna be unhappy. i'm just an optimist who happens to like everything. pokemon has it's faults but there are good things about it too, same with digimon.
I love how presumably, before this game Jaiden never had any experience with Digimon, she managed to get the joke of Leomon always dying in there
Maybe the storyboarder actually played digimon?
To be fair that’s like the most surface level Digimon Joke.
I just realized at 8:35 it says "private digi-party"... that makes a lot more sense now
yikes…
digi oil
As a ginormous Digimon fan, this video was pretty eye opening. She’s right, there is no one perfect Digimon game to jump into. I can only conclude that maybe the reason we love the games stems from our love for the show.
I would honestly say to a pokemon fan that Dusk and Dawn are the most pokemon like of the games.
Definitely pick up and put down type games, similar to how pokemon could end up being a grind fest before exp share was a thing.
However, I'd reccomend the Switch bundle of Cyber Sleuth and Hackers Memory. I'd bought the latter on ps4 because it looked like a 3d Dusk (and was on sale). But the pick up and put down part makes it more palatable than, say, a full blown video game (if saying that even makes sense, they're not a six hour session, more a, couple of hours before work the next day, kinda pace.)
Cyber sleuth takes the DS game and makes a lot of it better. Sure it can get repetitive, but at least it's far less frustrating. Hackers Memory gives new side quest mechanics too.
I watched most of the first run on TV, quite a lot of the second, and some of tamers. Had the clip on digivice with renamon on it in high-school, it went off a few times at almost the worse times haha.
But like, I honestly prefer the games after playing them. I think the translation of the anime was aimed at younger kids and the age demographic never went up.
Tried to watch the ghosts season and couldn't get past three episodes.
Probably why my mother couldn't stand digimon as a whole and always changed the channel xD
I disagree, I love the games and only watched the show after playing them. So many options and so many cool stories... sure it's not as kiddie friendly as pokemon and deciding where to start isn't as easy as picking up ANY game but that's part of the fun to me.
@@zz7073 interesting perspective, what was your first entry then, and do you think that’s the best one?
I grew up with both and honestly, I always thought that Digimon excelled at the show, but was poor with games- and Pokémon was meh in the show but excelled with its games.
Nope, I started with the games and only tolerate the shows because of the games.
Jaidens Channel is just slowly turning into let's play animations and I'm here for it
I mean when you’ve pretty much told every family or friends experience that was considered funny, gaming seem to be the ideal path
sheen this is the 7th week in a row you made this comment
Yeah I like this style of content of stuff, but I kinda miss the old style of content lol.
Bro, she’s been making gaming videos consistently for like 2 years now.
@@ante6892 okay? So like I said
As a brand new fan, I just want to say that animating an entire game review like this is really impressive. The amount of effort YOU AND YOUR TEAM are putting into your content is not going unnoticed.
You don’t know what she can do
bruh, she doesn't do everything by herself obviously
She has a team that helps :)
Imbecile... Give a penny's asss for the animators presented at the end panel... They do all the work she is just the front face
As someone who absolutely loves this franchise, I think many of us still recognize that, game by game, season by season, the quality can vary wildly. Like, "Swing from A- to D+ in a year" wildly. Thanks for giving it a shot!
Love how despite she not knowing anything about digimon STILL MANAGED to make a joke of Leomon dying.
this is the choice of he Steins gate
Don’t the animators choose what goes in the animation?
leomon literally has to die every time he appears, no one can stop it from happening it's just destiny
@@seveneyes77
Just in case you're not aware, it's a pretty common trope in Digimon for Leomon to die.
@@seveneyes77 Nope. Their Will Is Bound By Corporate Overlords Seeking Personal Profit At The Expense Of Their Animator's Health And Sanity.
It's really interesting how Jaiden's experience shows that digimon is not a videogame franchise. It's a tamagochi franchise that has a lot of anime adaptation, most of them completly independent from each other, and sometimes gets some games, most of them in different genres.
Well the one she is playing is a part of the Digimon story series a long chain of loosely connected games. Typically connected by character cameos or the plots of Yggdrasil/king drasil and are all rpg style games. The World games are traditionally an open world breeder game closer to a console tamagotchi. Then you have rumble games which are the fighting game of the franchise. Then you got survive the first visual novel. Trouble is these games are not like Pokémon and usually can’t be beaten without grinding and planned and raising for certain evolution paths. You will have maxed out Digimon by the end.
Yea
@@kingvire dear god, I watched the first series anime of these games where did it all go wrong this sounds like a dystopian monster
@@loganjoyce5045 when the digital world began expansive lore that isn't in any anime
@@loganjoyce5045 The Digimon Story games are connected.
But yeah, the problem with Digimon games is how it's VERY varied. That being said, that is thankfully being (somewhat) managed now in terms of consistency.
EX: Story games are traditional rpgs, while the current World games (Re:Digitize, Next Order) are related to the original Digimon World.
As for Survive, it was supposed to be a side project.
*Also, the Digimon lore will continue to be insane with or without the Digimon games. Even in the first series, the lore is a lot, especially if you go through the Adventure Light Novel.*
“When it comes to monsters and creatures, I have to admit, I am an edgy bitch” that’s it, Jaiden’s greatest quote.
She always was until now.
She is I guess
No, she has swore before
Honestly same
@@AgapeYeshua Dude Shut up
I hope she returns and plays Cyber Sleuth, it's probably the best Digimon game. It's not amazing, but I think par with any pokemon game that year/gen.
The only bad thing I can think of about cyber sleuth is its length. Great game! But very long.
@@fjorigg the grind is SO real, but is it more of a grind than any other pokemon game? Genuine question since I never finished a single pokemon game because I get bored of it pretty quick.
@@DespicableDemon pokemon games are pretty grindy too, but the story lines tend to be much shorter, from what I've experienced
@@fjorigg so the grind comes from post-game and doing PvP then? Guess that makes sense since it's for kids on the playground. But as far as a game to stream/let's play, I think Cyber Sleuth would be an awesome Janimation choice for her. 🤞
"When it comes to monsters and creatures, I have to admit, I am an edgy bitch" that's it, Jaiden's greatest quote.
She’s training for scribble after dark
Yeah!
I think this might be the only time we’ve gotten to hear Jaiden actually curse in a video, and I’m so proud of her for it.
“OmG jAiDeN sWoRe!!1!1!”
ikr
As an actual fan of both franchises, I 100% recommend Cyber Sleuth, even if you're just going to play it for yourself. It's really fun and the story is pretty neat. You're like a digi detective in modern Tokyo and it's kind of noir in a fun way.
Omg I love Cyber Sleuth. It’s honestly great. The story is good but the battles are what really make me love it. They are so immersive and not even that easy all the time. The only thing is, it’s a long ass game… like I am at over 120 hours and just finished the first one. I’m now on Hacker’s memory and already spent hours upon hours on it.
Personally i found it boring pretty quickly
Well she did point out how iy wasn't the channel content. Then again, maybe she can make a seperate video and play that, from what I hear it's really fun.
Was personally put off by Cybersleuth basically SMT with tons of fanservice
@@mariustan9275 She did say it was a great casual playthrough, so there's that.
The most real thing about being a digimon fan is honestly just enjoying the designs. It's a very cool concept with some of the coolest looking creatures in the genre. But we have just come to accept that there will be no perfect game. Every iteration has some great things about it, but there's always a part of it that'll drag it down. (Usually the confusing/grindy story progression)
I was only exposed through the shows (which are surprisingly great, better than pokemon shows imo), but I got the feeling no one really understands how digimon are supposed to work, and everyone, fans and creators, are just in it for the cool monsters.
At least for the time being, I've seen basically nothing but praise for the TCG. That said, it's still new compared to MTG, Yugioh or Pokemon. So, there's still plenty of time for it to take the same path of power creep that those did.
Out of what I played, Cyber Sleuth is the closest, but it has some growing to do.
Yeah. I'm always going to love Digimon for what it is, but sometimes I do wish it could have a game that isn't rough in some capacity.
cyber sleuth was a great game though
9:00 For someone who probably knows very little about Warhammer 40K, this encounter is so well animated. It’s also funny to me that the Mages of the Imperium would find a way into the Digimon universe of all places
I'm glad to know that Jaiden had a great time and is completely mentally sound after completing this game.
Reminds me of myself before I became a digimon fan.
@@valdish9620 lol
I'm not mentally sound after this game so imma stick to extremely hard hard-core randomizer nuzlockes,
@SkySartix Digimon kinda mid tho
but its an easy game
as a digimon fan, your description of how the fandom seems like it's grasping to hope after being hurt over and over is 100% accurate. I love digimon but instead of having any consistency they rebuild everything from the ground up and I'm convinced kBandai Namco doesn't give a shit about the western side of the fanbase at all
It's the Bandai side of things that's the issue. They're basically Japanese LJN - sometimes they'll put out a great game, but they'd just as happily create three terrible or just painfully mediocre games instead.
Seriously, trying to get into their work is designed to be as confusing as possible to anyone outside of a hardcore fanbase.
Nah don't worry, they don't give a shit about the japanese side either. China has the best exclusive shit but that's the thing, because of chinese legislation they probably don't get a lot of the console games either. (I don't actually know tho I haven't looked into it)
they dont, their bandai
" but instead of having any consistency they rebuild everything from the ground up "
Wow, it's even more like Sonic than i thought
Digimon is like Marvel and DC in terms of how big their Verse is. It. Every verse and version is Canon and their worlds connect in a large multiverse. Every experience isn't meant to be exactly the same and expands a bit more and more.
Yeah if you're coming from a Pokemon background I think Cyber Sleuth is a good starting point, it's easy to wrap your head around with a Pokemon mindset. Digimon World Next Order is a good example of what I consider a more "traditional" Digimon game, where the focus is more on raising and bonding with your Digimon and the fighting is kind of secondary, but it's a very specific type of game that if you aren't sure what you're getting into will probably be frustrating until you get the hang of it.
Agree with the Cyber Slueth recommendation. But yeah, there's a lot of story.
14:28 would that Announcement be… TOSTADA(:
The minute she said she was going to avoid the Cyber Sleuths and dive into World game of any kind, I felt nothing but pity.
XD RIP
i remember liking digimon world 3 as a kid
in fact... time for a rom dig
Cyber sleuth, cs hacker's memory, next order, rumble arena 1 and 2 are the only ones worth playing and I say this as a Digimon fan since I was a child.
I guess Survive is ok too if you're into visual novels, although it's a hard sell.
Bandai doesn't seem to know what direction to give Digimon games which is unfortunate. I think Cyber Sleuth was in the right direction imo.
You sound like you have the experience
I only watched a few let's plays of different digimon games and decided to get cyber sleuth without really knowing what kind of game it was
Because I really got to love digimons regardless
Digimon dusk was my first digimon game as a kid and Jesus christ playing that as a kid changed me, the hours I spent playing it trying to finish it I can feel deep within my soul to this very day. I remember being stuck in the Macro sea as well and ended up drawing a map of it when I first played. Lord help us.
I freaking love Lunamon, yo
Yeah, buth dusk/dawn and digimon world ...dats? I believe was the other ds one, have both that really anoying, really dificult wather maze, I remember losing miself while playing it and just doing all other missions just because I didn't want to go there again... wich is a shame because I actually love digimon and like both games a lot T-T
I only played Digimon DS as a kid but had so many fond memories of it that I replayed DS and played throw Dusk and Dawn about a year ago.
And yes, Marco sea was a nightmare the first time, but it was way easier the second time.
What's really funny is that I think she still chose the best Digimon game. Once you get used to the idea that your Digimon can, with the right work, turn into literally any other Digimon...it's fun.
I also played world DS, but I only got to play Dawn. What I loved is that my first born digiscaned was a pagumon and I made him go threw the Demidevimon route I was so hyped to get a Lilithmon but when I evolved to Myotismon I saw that I needed another Lilithmon. So I went backwards to use the impmon route and boy when I made Mummy boy that he was broken, he literally had the highest stats I ever saw in my team and his skills were amazing everything I had in his roster went from high AoE damage, or effects like HP, MP drain or paralyze.
If jaiden ever played cyber sleuth, she's gonna have some trouble drawing all the mega form digimons. Their designs get complex af
I really hope so it's such a good game too
She did draw Gaioumon lol
The world design is also a little bland.
Imagine drawing the royal knights💀
She'd probably get bored after the first hour. They both REALLY drag on a lot in large segments. And SO MUCH BACK TRACKING
Jaiden should play cyber sleuth. Its has two different stories and unlike other games you can call digimon to you or keep them away with certain hacking skills. Its a lot of fun.
I like the fact that she turned from a storytime animator to a gamer documenting what they played, and I'm kinda fown for it
I, too, am fown for it.
And it is a bit better than shy-nervous-person storytime.
You sort of need a lot of interesting stories for something like that which are harder to come by when you don't interact with people a ton.
This is a lot more sustainable, stories are on demand.
I love it!!!
what SHE played she is a fucking girl
only so much stories to tell
Little does Jaiden know that reading through endless digivolving charts, getting lost in straight line dungeons and sometimes shit stories IS OUR THERAPY!
Exactly, how much time I have spent making the stats to my mon perfect in world or getting each member to have x scissor in world 2. Both those games had maxed time saved in multiple play throughs
@@CorruptionAura exactly!
Digimon dawn is what got me to learn all of them
What the fuck is wrong with you guys
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As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
I was like, "She didn't mention cybersleuth, she didn't mention cybersleuth," then she mentioned it and that the community agreed it's good. Then she said it wasn't what she was looking for and a figurative table flipped in my brain
I'm fairly certain that what she was looking for didn't exist. But I mean at least there was some positive to it
I'm not an animator, but I imagine that there are some games that just don't have the type of playthrough that lends itself to Jaiden's style of animated storytelling. Like there's a lot less Pokémon Colloseum content around than a lot of other games that are objectively worse/less loved, and there's probably a reason for that. She did say that she would probably enjoy playing cybersleuth for fun in her free time.
It’s understandable from her perspective. No knowledge of Digimon besides that it’s like Pokemon. She expected a game like Pokemon.
@@Jeshiae Yeah I agree like cyberslueth even if you do the bare minimum is still a big time investment. My first playthrough was like 55ish hours but it was even longer in real time because i decided to do the whole “tactician usb” save scumming because even that would have been shorter than just flat out grinding. Granted if you dont really care too much about what team you take to the end game you can probably cut it down to 30-40 hours because there is just so many cutscenes. But honestly the story and twists including hackers memory I really didnt expect to be so damn good like most games dont have that good of story telling and characters you end up caring about damn sure not a monster collector game. I remember after finishing it my first time I just sat there like…damn pokemon will never come close to this level of story or gameplay/building which is sad i love pokemon but the closest they have gotten to cyberslueth good was arceus which is honestly the direction i wished they continued in.
Saaaaaaame
You’ve inspired me to start animating, I’m watching your videos and animating currently :D
Does anyone else love the fact that Jaiden’s channel is slowly becoming an animated story time gaming channel or is it just me
honestly it’s great. i still love her regular storytime animation content, but i really like this recent direction that her channel’s been taking
yep and it’s fucking phenomenal.
Didn't she get big from her Nuzlocke video? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly 🤔
@@poopikins nah, she had like 5 million subscribers at least before the nuzlockes. Obviously the nuzlocke videos are massive but if you look at any of her other storytime videos they have like 20-30 million views too which is insanely good
Nope you’re not the only one, i quite like that shes giving us a real window to see what she really likes using her time on
Possible hot take: it's understandable she tried to get into Digimon via the games because, in the case of Pokemon, people love it because of the games and tolerate the lukewarm anime. It's sadly the other way around with Digimon: we love Digimon because of the anime and tolerate the lukewarm games.
I don't even play or watch pokemon yet I still would rather be forced to play pokemon over digimon any day of the week
@@darianbarber3763 Fair and if i had to watch the first season of one, it'd be digimon.
@@darianbarber3763 pokemon have the better games while digimon is the better show
@@fajarwinmoney Except for Pokemon that's now reversed too, with how... unpolished the recent games were (and because the Pokemon anime actually became really, really good starting with Sun & Moon).
@@fajarwinmoney Digimon anime has a special place in my heart and I love it's uniqueness every season too!(Frontier is amazing, Tamers too, Adventure 1 and 2 is also amazing(that's where my love for Digimon started)
The easiest thing I can say for "getting into Digimon games" is the Anime is your gateway. From that point, the games just become "build a team of your favorites because very few Digimon are outright bad." And you go from there. Even in games like Cyber Sleuth where the Digimon-ing is a backdrop for the story to run wild against.
Yeah that's how I got into digimon
I only watched the anime but never play the game and I kinda liked it
I just love your positive outlook on life and the digital world. This is my first video watching of yours and I’ve become a fan of you already.
This game only came out in the US and Japan, and not in Europe but I wanted it so desperately. My grandma was going on holiday to the US, so I asked her for one thing- if she could find it at a used games store over there could she get it for me. She found it on the last day, after calling around several stores, and driving all over Florida to find it. That was the best birthday gift ever and I played it for MONTHS SOLID. I loved it. I loved the art style, I loved the story, even the little fetch quests. I got so good at memorizing the maps out of muscle memory. Now that she's no longer with me, I hold this game, box, manual very dear to my heart... partly for the countless hours of joy it gave me, and partly for the effort my grandma went through to get me a copy. It holds a very very special place in my heart...
Super cool memory
Repent to Jesus Christ “Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”
Colossians 3:2 NIV
@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 i'm gay and transgender nice try goodbye
@@catboysforcats2717 awesome response
@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 don’t care. You’re not a good person.
Man, as a Digimon fan this was fun to watch. I love the franchise and it is definitely hard to get hyped for a lot of things in it, but it was really great seeing stuff from Jaidens perspective. I hope she gets to enjoy all the digimon she ended up liking more in Cyber Sleuth.
What digimon game is easy and good for beginners?
@@mysticalkeyblade759 Cyber Sleuth best one by far!
I would love for her to make a video on it. I'm not a massive Digimon fan but i loved the game and still want to replay it.
@sirgabrielofcandel smark At the end of the video, she said she may play it one day
So it's a possibility
@sirgabrielofcandel smark She doesn't want to play it for the channel since it wasn't what she was looking for for the content, but would be interested for casual playing
The digimon fanbase is very divisive because almost every digimon game is completely different than the last. Like you said, every iteration of Digimon World is a different style of rpg. This is good in a way, because it means people with different tastes can enjoy a digimon game they enjoy, but bad because there is little to no cohesive formula in the series overall. Unlike pokemon, which has only just started to change it's formula within the last few years. Cyber Sleuths is widely considered the best overall, which means a lot in such a divisive fanbase.
0:20 meow mer from terraria is the first thing I saw
I wheezed when Jaiden was surprised with how Digivolution works. There's plenty like that in Digimon. My favourite has to be where an Ice Bear digimon evolves into a Giant Penguin Digimon with two huge popsicles that act as magnets (Daipenmon)
*WHAT*
Oh yeah, as a longtime fan of the anime, when it comes to the digiviolutions, things get whack, like REALLY whack, at times
I love that you could have a nun evolve into a girl cosplaying a pig evolve into a metal furry in the Digimon X
@@Dylan781 just wait til you hear about the blob that becomes a dog, which turns into a cat, which turns into an Angel lady. Then it turns into a big pink dragon.
Wait for her to see how from a dog evolves info a cat an after that to a woman and after that info a dragon or an archangel also if the ángels is evil to become a demon lord
Jaiden discovers that old jrpgs are hell. I applaud her for her grand efforts
not all of them. This one though....
1:98 whats th is theme called?
HOW DID YOU GET SO MUCH LIKES IN 2 HOURS???
@@danielrivas2560 why did this sound like a very bad mobile game ad when i read it 🤣
This is a DS game,wtf are you talking about
I just gotta love how Jayden learns about the fact that Digimons got back and forth from big to small. It's a normal thing lol
Dude her name is literally the channel how did you spell it wrong
@lily I HATE AUTOCORRECT!
@@haydensfamilytv3397 same its the worst
Honestly, Cyber Sleuth was pretty good. And I'm totally hooked on Next Order.
Glad to hear you're considering Cyber Sleuth (And Hacker's memory), both are amazing experiences that I'd say are pretty comparable to Pokemon, but with some detective work thrown in.
Also, I'd say the thing that really divides Pokemon and Digimon fans is the media. Pokemon fans seem to be more into the games, whereas Digimon fans are more into the anime. Adventure 01, 02, Tamers, and maybe 2020 are great animes, with Adventure Tri and Kizuna being amazing movies that I'd recommend if you wanna get more into Digimon.
Frontier is also great. It had some weird Power- and Hight- Scaling here and there but overall was very consistent in bringing out enjoyable episodes. Also Lucemon and Koichi are top tier.
Tamers to be honest has the most of my favourite moments but can get very boring for a few episodes untill they get a top scene out again.
Adventure 01 and 02 great even for beginners.
Never got into Data Squad. Making it Edgy doesn't equal more adult. And all this human drama was just annoying.
Cross Wars/Fusion. Had the most annoying and useless main cast. (Sadly had to stop watching) But so cool side and enemy digimon. I think MC ditched his useless friends after halfway in the series because they weren't in the intro anymore and the 2 rivals looked interesting. (But I didn't wanted to fight myself to get to that point)
Ghost Game, is good but has no story. All these filler non fight episodes get frustrating. Oh look another ultimate digimon while angoramon is still just a Rookie, I wonder if they win in a fight or do some other shenanigens. Oh 10 episodes were we didn't mention the plot, time for Black Tailmon to stand somewhere at the end of the episode.
Adventure Reboot overall good but too fast at the start and put filler between the last two big boss fights for no reason. Taichi is in his friends episodes for no reason and the crests get no explaination and are pretty unimportant.
@@QueenOfDarknes5 Yeah I feel pretty similarly about the anime franchise.
Love Adventure 1 & 2 despite their flaws, though I like Tamers just a bit more for introducing some darker moments and having them fit into the anime in a non-intrusive manner.
I saw Frontier recently and while I enjoyed it more than I thought I would have, it's a hard recommend for anyone who's strapped for time. Naemon is a bean though
@@hunterkeps9058 my opinion is different by a wide margin.
Adventure is fine, but it's massively overrated by the fandom.
Tamers is the peak quality-wise and even though most agree, it ends up looking underrated because of how overrated Adventure is.
Frontier was... okay. They tried something different, it didn't end up working too well.
Savers is amazing, it's my personal favourite and I'd say it's just slightly behind Tamers quality-wise. While Tamers is more consistently good, Savers has higher highs and lower lows.
Xros Wars... exists. Like, it isn't bad per se, but it gets questionable a lot. I've watched 23 episodes thus far and I've had two long breaks from it already.
Tri I really dislike. The first two movies were fine, but the rest got consecutively worse and worse. They had cool ideas, but completely botched the execution.
Appmon and Adventure: I haven't watched yet.
Ghost Game had a really strong start, but quite a few of the later episodes are mediocre and forgettable, which hurts an episodic series far more than a serialized one.
@@growasowa3444 Appmon turned out to be FAR more enjoyable than I'd expected going into it.
(The Adventure remake turned out to be far LESS enjoyable than I'd expected, even without the endless feelings of "why is this an Adventure remake? Like, just make a new series. You've changed it too much to rely on the nostalgia any more". It really felt like they'd learnt nothing from the reception to Tri.)
I know digimon for one thing and one thing only, Data Squad. Idc that show was straight FIRE.
Jaiden and her team must really be going to their limits, I mean 2 videos a month is absolutely insane. Animation and all that is not an easy job so I’m so impressed and grateful that they’ve somehow managed to pull this off. Keep up the good work you guys. :)
"When it comes to monsters and creatures, I must admit, I am an edgy b**ch" is the best quote in this whole video. God, I love Jaiden 😂
And one I can absolutely relate to
It caught me so off guard lmao 😭
agreed
2:20 Cyberslueth/Hacker’s Memory are the answers to this.
Jaiden: "I don't know what Digimon is and I hated playing the game."
Also Jaiden: "I think Digimon are cool now."
Yes, that sounds about right.
Gotta love that clickbait, eh?
She thinks that Digimons look good, but she hated that game and still doesn't know what they are
Good franchise, bad game.
Kinda like BDSP.
@@cookie_jar706 No she makes sense, She hated the game, likes the design of some digimons lol
It's genuinely hilarious when Pokemon fans unfamiliar with Digimon learn about how cracked out the evolution lines in Digimon can be. It's part of why I love them so much. If you want a clear digivolution line that makes complete and total sense then you can do that. Augmon, a small dinosaur, to MetalGreymon, a giant dinosaur. but if you wanted, you could start with a goblin and end as a sexy death flower digimon.
You should just take the Standard example
Cat ball->dog->cat->sexy angel->cat dragon
What did any of that mean
@@tjwinstonquinzel3804
That's Gatomon's line isn't it?
@@DrawciaGleam02 One of them
Gotsumon.
This caught me insanely off guard 13:04
@@Cyanodude ABSOLUTELY SAME
I am an edgy bitch!
As a Digimon fan, I've never been so offended by a video I 100% agree with. This hurts how true it is.
Im so sorry
I know right? I've been with digimon from the beginning, never stopped loving it...except Xros wars...that annoyed me, and Frontier was..well..Frontier. but the games are usually ok. Dawn was a bad choice to begin though
My condolences, Digimon will someday get a completely good and fun game, everything will be ok bro
@@Catto_Ninja Digimon got a good and fun game already, twice, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth Complete Edition.
More like 93%. I remember these games, and there is a cutscene after login mountain directing you to the quests.
For someone who played Digimon Dawn and seeing Jaiden losing her mind over Digimon Dawn, I can totally relate.
Saaaame. Fuck their dungeon design hardcore
Same. My first digimon game after loving the tv series, I kept wondering if it was my fault I was getting so horrendously lost.
I played both Dawn and Dusk. They taught me that Digimon teaches you nothing... ever
@@thompolamar8076 so very true. You just wake up with several baby digimon and its your job to learn how to parent them.
@@Wasabi-rs5lv And the one at your desk yells at you and calls you an idiot often
Hands down one of the best videos in this channel. Singlehandedly unforgettable. I could *feel the slow but inexorable descent into madness*
yes
Digimon world Dawn/Dusk was a blast for me. The series as a whole is very grindy if you wanna get very cool endgame digimon though. If you're cool with that definitely give them a try
ngl as a digimon fan since childhood, i've just kind of accepted over the years that sometimes, its best to just experience some franchises as only the anime. and sometimes, digimon really feels like one of those.
Yea the games are kinda eh (at least the ones I’ve tried) but the anime is leagues better than the Pokémon anime
Yes! Pokemon has the best games but Digimon has the best anime. Adventure 01 and 02 are the best
even though the games predate it?
@@thisisemmalyshandle pokemon literally just reusing the same game for for 20 years
Pokemon fans: OMG THIS IS SO GOOD 🔥
Sometimes not even the anime
"It seemed like I walked in on a fandom that has just been hurt over and over, and they're really trying to hang on to something and believe in the good of the franchise... but they've just been put through a lot." Excellent summary of the Digimon fandom. We are constantly looking for any scrap of content we can find, but a lot of the games we're given are confusing at best and deeply flawed at worst.
As a Digimon and Sonic fan that comment hit me hard, at least she knows Sonic is like that too.
Incorrect. It’s deeply flawed at best and proof God has abandoned us at worst.
The digimon games are evil….
agreed. For now the most fun I have been having with Digimon is the VB and other vpet stuff. The anime is like the games too, they try some new gimmick and that could be a hit or miss.
That is if we even get them in the first place its gotten so bad we're now fully translating them ourselves
No its not...
As a huge Digimon fan.... Nothing Jaiden said was wrong.
And honestly just seeing her draw mons like Gaiomon was worth it.
I'm not trying to insult you or start a fight, but why are you a fan? Is their some great game hidden in this series, just buried under decent at best game? Was the cartoon that good that it kept people on it for decades? What is it?
@@Enchie im just gonna say it, Digimon learned to evolve with his audience and the time passed more and more mature games came out with their own gameplays, like digimon Regiditalize and cyber sleuth, what we adore about of digimon is the that they take to talk with the audience and evolve with them like they most recen game Digimon survive.
@@Enchie Probably the series.
I enjoyed Digimon world 4, digimon rumble arena 2 and cyber sleuth. FYI... each of those is a completely different type of game.
@@kayletwain4492 Digimon were like actual people if they looked like monsters
@@Enchie She literally said in the video Cybersleuth was a good game and she decided not to play it? Its not a hidden good game its out there
Ngl, Ive only heard about you and your channel just a couple of days ago, but your storytelling/commentary is as hilarious as DankPods's that Ive been compelled to delve into what other misadventures you embark in your channel. Here's to more wacky geek shenenagins!
Digimon designs always did strike me as cool and interesting, and seeing them in Jaiden's art style is icing on the cake.
Same here love their designs and her style really compliments them
As a Pokémon fan who has complained about Pokémon games being too easy and hand holdy you would think that being dropped in a world and be told to figure it out would be something you would find refreshing
As someone who grew up liking Pokemon and Digimon, the Digimon anime got fans interested and hooked on the franchise. Dubbed or subbed, the animes for both franchises were the gateway to a mystical fantasy world filled with cool monsters that kids loved. Pokemon found a formula that their fans liked and the company rewrapped future games into oblivion, with minor but largely successful spin-offs here and there. Digimon games were a trying testament to the fans' faith in the franchise - either balls-to-the-walls challenging or endless grinding for smiggets of story. I've never heard ONE objectively good Digimon game (other than Digislueth) that captured some of the magic from its show besides the character designs.
there was one called Re Digitize, but it never left Japan. (though there is a fan translation)
in any case, I feel like capturing the "magic" of the show would be near impossible in game format.
I wast looking to read an artical
@@LuckyWaveHat shush
@@GiordanDiodato yeah it’d be really difficult to do that
The problem with digimon games is and the video maker covered it well is like the game is good but… and this is true even of cyber sleuth
Jaiden not knowing what's going on embodies everything I love about Digimon. It's just as hard and weird as real life, but with cool monster friends
Digimon games are the embodiment of the real treasure was the friends we made along the way
i play video games to escape real life i don’t want a gaming experience that’s frustrating like every day life 😭
*cool monsters you want to Bang*
You can't really know what it will be except the fact they'll be Digimon, and Digimon are very cool.
I'm one of those that got back to the franchise that got back to the franchise with Cyber Sleuth, and apparently I am also a Digifan now? I liked Survive, so I guess?
Digimon are really cool.
@@danielbarnes1241 Even if that friend was a Platinum Poop mon.
Hey there Jaiden, I’m a huge fan of your channel and you never fail to make me smile and laugh 😊.
After rewatching this video, hearing you love big monsters designs, I instantly thought of Monster hunter stories 1 and 2 on the switch : games like Pokemon where instead of hunting monster you befriend them and you fight in an turned based RPG. It made me want to continue the Stories 1 remake I haven’t finished so thank you. I also definitely recommend these games they’re amazing !
Again thank you Jaiden for all of your amazing videos.
I like how that specific Digimon game caused her so much pain she went “welp, who needs a G rating anyway” and it became #1 on trending
#5***
Jaiden went through arguably one of the more painful games, start to finish, and came out more of a fan of digimon. Absolute chad.
agreed
I'm concerned that this is "arguably" one of the "more painful" games. How do digimon fans function?
@@FlashStatic It's more painful in how much you have to grind to Digivolve your Digimon. The mechanics are a lot more straightforward when it comes to how to get the Digimon you want (it's all linear evolution trees that you manually choose what you want to get instead of 'Oh, you accidentally let this Digimon's Speed stat get too high, so now when you Digivolve it you'll get something completely different from what you were trying to get'), and the combat is that nice, simple, turn based format.
She probably won't listen to some random dude online but can you please try Earthbound?
Digimon cyber sleuth isn't at all like persona 5... I'm offended
As someone who has been with both Pokemon and Digimon since the very beginning I would confidently say the Cyber Sleuth games definitely would have been your best bet and I hope you play them in the future. The gameplay wouldn't be alien to a Pokemon player and the stories aren't bad at all with some nice funny moments.
Also Digimon World 3, but only if you can tolerate old games like that.
Saddly, the Cyber Sleuth gales weren't translated into other language that English, deeply lowering the spreading of those games in Europe, it's a bit sad, futhermore in France where Digimon was rather popular in the 90/2000 and in a big nostalgia mood TwT
Speaking as a fan of the anime but never played any of the games before Cyber Sleuth, yeah, CS was the best game to start out for me. It satisfied what I was looking for in a Digimon game without any unnecessary complications.
Whenever I watch your video's I always look for the little details; and when I find them, they make my day.
As both a digimon and pokemon fan born and raised I can say I'm sorry that jaiden had to suffer the pain of digimon world dawn, but I'm proud that jaiden is attempting to make a try at enjoying the franchise
I heard from another youtuber that digimon world dusk/dawn got pretty tedious....
Maybe we should link that guy Jaiden's video!!
wait im curious what's wrong with digimon world dawn?
Wait who the hell said that is the best one to start that game is hard as hell
Should have played Digimon Rumble Arena imo. Easy mechanics, simple game with simple rules, and since it's just Smash with Digimon instead it's also relatively fun
I agree
13:03 I've been rewatching a lot of older Jaiden stuff lately, so hearing her curse completely un cut off was weird to say the least
I loved that part Lol
Same 😅
Sane
@@cameronweaver2013 same
Same
Digimon is one of those things where you fall in love with the concept, not the games 😭
I consider myself to be a digimon fan, and in my 2 decades of playing their games and watching their series, I only finished 2 series and not a single game. This video resonates with me in ways I didn't think possible.
Great video as always, Jaiden.
Digimon Adventures and Digimon Tamers?
@@WolfieboyMachi he played their game, but never finished it
@@KABLAMMATS Adventure and Tamers aren't games... they are anime series.
@@WolfieboyMachi For me it was only Digimon Adventure 2 and Digimon 3 Tamers, those were my favorite animes of the franchise. Now I want to watch the others. Maybe I can find out what a Digimon is :V
@@ANDLESCO watch 02 while at it, and never watch xros wars the amount of bs they pull is worse than Pokémon
Should have played Cyber Sleuth. It's about as story oriented as XD and you played that for the channel. Although it does have a lot of side quest, the digimon collecting and evolution system is great and really gets you invested in raising your digimon. I actually spent so much time raising my guys that before I knew it I had all the most powerful digimon in the game before I was even halfway done with the main story. And this was my first Digimon game.
the dungeon is still horribly designed. there's barely any map anywhere and if you lost your way and stopped playing for a while you can be really lost
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@@brambl3014 it’s still pretty newbie friendly.
@Brambl if you get lost you can just talk to the chick in the digilab and she'll literally tell you what to do. It's way more friendly to returning to after a long break than most JRPGs.
I think the second Cyber Sleuth really fixed a lot of the issues with the first. But if you play the second you'll be slightly lost in the story since it's the alt side of the first.
This vid is a year old and I JUST noticed the 40k reference!!!
As a Digimon fan, I have never once played any of the games. I'm just a fan of the shows and movies. The first show just boils down to "a group of children get pulled into a dimensional rift that traps them in an artificial reality populated with digital monsters who mostly want to attack the kids but one group in particular helps them survive and try to get back to the actual world." The English theme song slaps.
Digimon World 2 on Playstation 1 is great, needs time, skill and luck to finish it , I still have my saves
@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka not gonna try that still, imma stick to the show
Same
Digimon! Digital Monsters! Digimon are the champions!
Same! I loved Guilmon as a kid! But digimon really beat pokemon in terms of design
It might be too late for this, but like how the Pokemon anime is more of an afterthought to the game, the Digimon games are more of an afterthought to the anime. I recommend watching the original show and Digimon tamers, if you have the time. Those two are the best this franchise has to offer in my opinion, and a great entry point into this beautiful mess.
I respecfully disagree. Watch the original and the second show and MAYBE give tamers a try. I believe some people like the fourth thingy, but I'd just stop watching at that point.
@@NahrAlma Every series has its fans, but I do agree it falls off hard after Frontier in a lot of ways.
I agree. Jaiden might have been looking for only a game, but Digimon was popular because of the series. So I'd also recommend watching the series to see just why people who like Digimon would put up with such games.
Also, while Jaiden is trying things other than Pokemon, she should also look into the final of 90's trifecta of "children save the world via battling with a battle 'pet' like thing" Metabots.
100% agree
@@angelicmew740 That or beyblade lol.
This video made me realize how important the path I took in the franchise was for me to enjoy it. I played dawn after watching the show and playing digimon world ds and I didn't realize how they didn't give you any proper introduction to the digimon franchise. Props for hanging in there!!!
The thousand punches bit was one of the most fun bits of animation I've seen in weeks. :P
The Digimon show is where it's really at. Idk much bout the game, but the Digimon series took over 5 years of my life growing up. I used to rewatch it regularly, as in rewatch the entirety of the first 2 seasons every month just for fun. Whilst I no longer do that, I still hype the greatness of the show
I would say the video games Cyber Sleuth and Survive are on par with the anime. World 1, ReDigitize, and Next Order too if you can get into the V-Pet RPG mechanics.
And the under appreciated V-Tamer manga and Xros Wars manga.
But the anime are good, especially the Japanese cuts. Sadly the American dubs of Digimon Adventure, 02, and Fusion, remove too much character depth and development.
We joke about how Pokemon has better games while Digimon has a better anime, but honestly, this video just cements how true that really is, at least in regard to the games.
Pokemon was originally a popular game. Digimon was originally a popular manga. It makes sense that a pokemon game is better than a digimon game.
@@EpicNerdsWithCameras although in terms of graphics Digimon beats out pokemon any day lmao
They remade the 1st season of Digimon
Not only is the expressiveness in the animation great & the meme potential is THROUGH THE ROOF, but this is the first time we hear Jaiden swear without being cut off or bleeped.
She did bleep it- wdym
Ik right, I'm glad she's growing with the community
@@okonmaaa she said "edgy bitch"
@@okonmaaa the edgy bitch one in 13:03
@@okonmaaa hardly. The word was clear as rain
Petition for part 2 where she plays different digimon games to further break whatever pysche is left 👺
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ok i won't
if we get it to 500 likes they will notice
I want to see her play the first 3-4 hours of every Digimon game from the start. Oh the despair to be felt xD
r/foundsatan
I honestly just wanna see her play the smash bros rip off digimon games
You see the problem you encountered is time and change of how society behaves.
Pokemon started as a game. So the original experience that created the fanbase can be played to this day and while there are Mangas, Animes and spin off titles, that could become someones first Pokemon experience, the overall concept is very strongly reflected through the main games and it's mechanics.
Digimon didn't start as a normal game or Manga or Anime. The original Digimon experience was the Digimon Virtual Pets. They are practically Tamagotchis, but with training and leveling, that can lead to evolving your Digimon and the probably best selling part: Fighting your friends Digimons; like you would hang out and could connect your Digimon devices to fight each other.
This was in 1997 and even better it was around the start of summer. At the time there were no smartphones or many different gaming consoles with internet connection and thousands of good games to play. Around the late 90s it was mostly common to meet with your friends and spend time outside. Also Tamagotchis were really popular, because they were like cute pets that you could take care of. Parents loved the idea of fulfilling a children wish for a pet, without having to take care of an actual pet.
Now Digimon Virtual Pets were like better Tamagotchis because you could fight your friends with them.
Considering this it might be more understandable how it's hard to really get into the Digimon franchise without being able to experience something that is just time exclusive.
The best comparison would probably be Back to the Future II , when Marty shows kids of the future how to play an arcade game that he is really good at. For the kids of the future it just didn't compare anymore, with everything else being "better"/different. Practically with everyone owning a smartphone the appeal of battling your friends with a virtual pet you have to take care of and need to meet up to even use that feature, is just not exciting anymore or in any way modern.
"When it comes to monsters and creatures, I have to admit, I am an edgy bitch!"
Jaiden's a fuckin' mood this entire video and I love it
Jaiden seems to be leaning less on the E for Everyone type of deal on this channel. Oh boy.
I really appreciate the ability to use words like bitch and ass and stuff in these videos, it makes it feel more real and honestly its refreshing because we are surrounded by curse words in day to day speech and language anyway so seeing channels try to eliminate every mention of a curse word eventually just drives you insane
@@Ziedmac I know right the annoying beeping sound will drive you insane, either not said it or edit it out
This could have been a completely different video if Jaiden had gone with Digimon World 1, and no I'm not saying that because I think it's better, but because I would have adored seeing her animate some of the undeniable bizarreness contained within that game.
Ah, yes, the "take your pet to poo at the bathroom otherwise they become poo itself" game.
@@KlebinDaBoca The what
@@KlebinDaBoca the what now
@@notvex3987 no, no, no, now is when, what is something.
@@KlebinDaBoca sir, you answer the question
Part of the problem, I think, is that a lot of Pokemon fans go into a Digimon game assuming it'll play more or less the same because of the franchise's stigma of being a "Pokémon clone." But Digimon games have never stuck to one single genre, and there's only really one game in the entire franchise that even came close to being a Pokémon copy (it's Digimon World 3, for those wondering).
I love digimon a lot, and it makes me mad when people say digimon is a pokemon clone
Yah
Yeah but I still love the franchise and I grew up on it and people who think that digimon is a pokemon copy are uneducated and just need to stop they are judging something they don't understand and refuse to learn also digimon fans should not hate on pokemon fans because they are uneducated because at one point they were also uneducated and should learn to let somethings go and should still like their franchise but should not look down upon others because they are uneducated but should see an opportunity to teach another about their culture and this goes for other things other than just fandoms so do not judge something because you does not know anything about it learn and accept that you just won't like somethings and do not judge others because they do like something else than you
@@mikaylawollett4353
What if someone told you digimon is a megami tensei clone for kids?
@@Raximus3000 It really isn't either, but megami tensei is the progenitor of monster catching games.
Also, Digimon started as a v-pet line anyway. Very different from megami tensei
I see the video again, animated let’s play are amazing.
If we stay in the games of fights and monster collection, "Dragon Quest Monster Joker" and "Spectrobes" would be really fun to discover!
honestly love how she hasn't held herself back from making gaming content just bcuz a lot of ppl came for the storytime stuff. Great video!!
hola
I'm liking the gaming jaiden I guess I just like how she draws the characters
It is really great content. I subscribe to both gaming creators and animation creators and to have the two combined has been a thing of beauty!
My brother is graduating and his name is Mason
They're good at telling stories, including stories about their experiences in video games. :)
Im so impressed that Jaiden and her team were able to get this kinda quality out in only 2 weeks after the last episode. Mad pops thats just insane! Keep it up Jaiden!
@@reversed9264 fax
I love how Jaiden and Tiny Jaiden have become separate characters.
Same
How many bots must I deal with.
Lol