"Legate, we could surround his forces and charge his flanks with our cavalry from up the mountain. Why show such restraint?" "Quiet, Centurion. To cross the great red line is to succumb to barbarism."
I mean the guy was probably just taunting random people hoping some idiot would get angry enough to waste an hour climbing a mountain while he's alt-tabbed doing something else
@@miles_garcia Exactly, he moved his units, proving he was trying. So he lost his opportunity to play the troll card "i didnt care i wasnt even looking". This guy was trying and crying XD.
Its funny because this guys cheese allowed you to make probably one of the most accurate depictions of how Romans fought. Most of their battle engagements were grind slogs, with few lines advancing in to wear the enemy down just like you did here. Good win.
@@lukeinvictus Nah. I mean props to you for beating him anyway, but trolls like that shouldn't be indulged in the first place. I'd have said the same thing and left. Nothing maladjusted about that.
Very well done. You had less men, twice as many kills, and about 2/3's of your army was able to make it home. It really demonstrates the biggest threat to corner campers; routing will instantly remove one of your units from the battlefield. As an attacker, there's a chance a routing unit may return, but in any case, the battle shall end very quickly once its decided.
The title of this video, but applied to real life 'They will acknowledge the game is rigged from the very start, yet they'll get mad at you for cheating'
@@mcdull68 That never happens irl, ONLY between men of honor you will see respect for the quality of character. Play by rules with the common folk and you will be defeated by the million cheaters around you
Honestly feels like a real Romans vs. Greeks battle. Greeks having the homefield advantage and using tactics they've been using for centuries, only to lose to what is on paper a laughable strategy by the Romans purely because the Greeks were overconfident and the Romans were suicidally determined.
Great job reading that guy like a book betting that he wouldn't reinforce the side you were attacking immediately. An excellent lesson on game sense and getting in your opponents head
I thought about corner camping, and in my opinion there is a easy solution for it. Make it so the closer your units are to a border, the less morale they recover passively, and when too close, even lose morale passively.
Or have adding temporary zone after red line, not that big but enough to flank. And units in that zone will lose morale/health over time, so u can flank the cornercamper if u fast enough))
@@easytanksgaming3238 That was my first thought, and it would be an improvement indeed, but you could still cornercamp with a complete pikebox, with the extra of having two side almost invulnerable. The units that try to flank to attack you would get the penalty and rout.
imo an easy way would be to just cut corners. make it a diagonal line... this would prevent semi-circles and at the very least, stretch out and significantly weaken this kind of defense. It may even open up a flanking opportunity, too, as soft angles are harder to cover in TW than hard angles due to the rectangular units.
Holy! You opponent didn't know who he was up against. You clearly had much greater tactical knowledge. I've played this game a lot, but I never even came close to your level. You were vicious with your Brutii! Flawless tactic. Truly impressive!
I think the way pila works is that the closer you are to the enemy, the less triangulation there is between your models and the enemies, and so there is less overlap and overkill on individual models. Essentially you are targeting more models by virtue of each one being closer to your own individual models-i don't think the "damage" per pila changes with distance. Thats why loose formation loses fewer in exchanges compared to tight formation-there is less overkill on the enemy. I think that there is some under explored potential in doing more column-based pila fights where you only have the front couple ranks throwing pila, so they have a surplus of targets, while recieving a massive amount of overkill on the few exposed models in the front of the formation. There could also be value in timing your pila throws to have longer gaps between them, so that the enemy formation can automatically repopulate the front lines between throws, reducing overkill.
As someone who does the Pokey stick Circle tactic against the AI I am fully happy that you beat this man. Like why even bother playing the game at this point he's essentially not doing anything. Big props to yourself for the win! Its interesting that Massed cavalry still get bully/push power against Pikemen
Question: Would artillery have helped here? It's been a million years since I played RTW so I don't remember how useful artillery is, but seeing that clumped-up formation makes me want to drop a flaming onager round in there SO bad
This was a so called 31k battle. With 31k ruleset artillery is banned. Generally artillery is quite RNG dependant but in this case it could be good indeed
I've played against this guy more than once. The first time he "got" me and I just said "gj on being so bad you have to edit the game this much in your favour I guess" and left. The second time I recognised the username and ignored his stipulation for no artillery and did exactly that - turned his entire army into fiery red mist before he realised what I'd done, and when he whined about it I laughed at him. The 3rd time I did the same, he saw my army and instantly said "fuck off" in the chat and left 😂😂
Well, this expression applies to this scenario, the guy played stupid games, he earned stupid prizes, he got defeat from the jaws of victory and you did the impossible, congrats, nice battle.
I remember doing some cheezy stupid strategies in the early days of barbarian invasion. 3 roman armies. I hid my full sarmation cav in the forest waiting for the other 2 armies to duke it out. Joke was on me ofcourse cause of scored resolution. Even his corner camp is bad tho. You'd want to have some extra space to keep units in reserve to reinforce the lines. or am I crazy?
I did a personal challenge once. In Rome 2. I tried to migrate the entire kingdom of Sparta to the British Isles and conquer it. I did this strat. I had one army that won every battle it fought...except one. No one wins a hundred chances. I fought 5 battle in a row outnumbered each time. Battle 1, 2 armies 5k vs my 3k. Second battle 3k, vs my 2.2k. 3rd battle, 2k vs my 1k. 4th, 700 vs my 200. Each battle was fought in the corner with a forest to block archer and projectiles. Legendary difficulty. The final battle was one last desperate attempt my 45 men vs 300 of theirs. I tried to kill their general and almost did. This is how I won a few of these previous engagements.
Seems like the heavily blobbed up formation worked in your favour as I can't see the hoplites putting their spears down (or maybe your opponent forgot)
Always satisfying to see a cheap player get what they deserve. Amazing win and better than I could've possibly done. I would've been stubborn as hell and just stood there, tabbed out to do something else, and wait until time ran out or until they left the match
Had you known the kind of army and strategy your opponent was going to take, would you have taken a different army composition to this game? would you have included any artillery (assuming they can climb such steep inclines)?
Artillery would have been extremely effective here, however the answer is no because the rules of the game that the player hosted for were “31k” which is a rule set that bans artillery. So I’m glad I won fair and square, even if my opponent didn’t play fair.
I'd go to the next highest corner, set up my defense, turn the game volume way up, and walk away. Go fix dinner. Clean the house or something. File taxes. Let him quit.
I wish they would fix this edge guard bs, I think the simplest way is to make a unit more likely to flee the longer and closer it is to the edge. That way in a situation like this you wait in the center a let him break and run…
If missile fire works the same way it does in Medieval 2, shooting the enemys "unshielded" side doesn't matter; as long as you are hitting a flank you are getting a bonus to missile fire.
Specifically, you will negate half their shield bonus at the flank and negate ALL their shield stat if hitting them from behind. Hitting their left or right side doesn't signify
Literally my strat in any game against romans😂 never failed at least ones. On grasslands it’s going hord, it’s doable with Armenia, Scythia and Parthia )
How hard is it to make a map that broadens and moves the red line as both armies get closer to it? In modern TW games, it should be very possible to even make the game generate more map, so that two armies can practically keep marching in one direction for days on end. But even just a slight shift of the red line once the armies both get close to it would prevent corner camping entirely.
Corner camping isn’t really a widespread problem anyway, and some people prefer that the battle be contained, for the same reason that people like a boxing match to be in a ring rather than in a wide open field
Good Job Brother! It is great that you were able to defeat this pathetic Rome player, whose only contribution to the game is building a map that he thinks he's invincible in that takes an hour to start.. what satisfaction does this dude get out of corner camping? Its baffling... If you can't win, learn how the effing game works.
They have a higher defense stat, but having a higher attack is better for holding a position like this, because urbans are superior to anything in sword range. Doing more damage to them as they try to get past the spears is the most important trait.
It has been ages since I played RTW. I was never good at online battles, but gods help us, I never tried this corner nonsense. I liked playing flat maps even though a more astute player typically beat me easily. Hills don't really allow much in maneuvering, and hey, I might lose but at least it's interesting.
It seems the downside of this corner strategy is also pretty obvious - when a unit rout it would immediately quit the battle map, unlike usually you can regroup many of the routing units.
I can't remember how artillery works in Rome, but seriously, I'd rather always bring one piece against any faction that would probably go heavy into hoplites. It forces them to not just sit and be defensive cunts. Edit: Also, jesus christ. The way he set up his units is bonkers. He could've easily set up several layers of spears with plenty of room for his archers. But instead he just massed them in a single clump in the corner where they couldn't move. Absolutely perplexing.
I mean I did the cheese strat on my friend on a bridge map ( block a bridge with a phalanx and watch the meat grinder) I did then beat him mutiple times on a flat maps just to show it was not a fluke tbf to me my mate didn't care at least he didn't admit he cared and he kicked my arse in cossacks I corner camp the AI would only do what the troll did if it was a "Yep I lost this game but I'm going to bring down as many of you as possible)
I sort of wonder if this strategy would be viable if you had artillery. I mean the fact that their units are so cramped would make them an amazing target for it.
To beat redline campers is thee easiest thing to do in this game I swear XD with Rome obviously, kind of like noob boxes. Spartans in a corner just makes them worse for some reason, I don't know why people think its a good idea still on top of a hill and redline camping. I beat a modded rebel army on the steepest modded hill possible and I still beat them XD Forget just beating them too, just wait them tf out. Even if it takes 3 hours.
"Legate, we could surround his forces and charge his flanks with our cavalry from up the mountain. Why show such restraint?"
"Quiet, Centurion. To cross the great red line is to succumb to barbarism."
LOL this game is utterly preposterous but thats why i like it
No one crosses the pomerium
Not even Ceaser would cross that rubicon
this has to be one of the most ridiculously unfavorable wins ever man
imagine being so bad u cant win given the situation here
I mean the guy was probably just taunting random people hoping some idiot would get angry enough to waste an hour climbing a mountain while he's alt-tabbed doing something else
@SWBGTOC i mean you're definitely right but u still gotta win the game here lmao
he clearly was making some attempt or he'd just stand there
@@miles_garcia Exactly, he moved his units, proving he was trying. So he lost his opportunity to play the troll card "i didnt care i wasnt even looking".
This guy was trying and crying XD.
@@SWBGTOC No matter what he still lost the game and thus a fair win
Its funny because this guys cheese allowed you to make probably one of the most accurate depictions of how Romans fought. Most of their battle engagements were grind slogs, with few lines advancing in to wear the enemy down just like you did here. Good win.
It's such a shame TW don't take into account the push. Having romans pushing through sarissa to get close and personnal like this would be so funny
@@cpp3221 I've literally had a city battle where our side was Romans just brute-forcing Spartans.
I would have said: "If you want to have an easy battle, have fun with the AI" and left.
Cuz ur well adjusted
Romans never surrender
@@lukeinvictus lol perfect response
I don't blame you he's hardly even playing the game I would be pissed too
@@lukeinvictus Nah. I mean props to you for beating him anyway, but trolls like that shouldn't be indulged in the first place. I'd have said the same thing and left. Nothing maladjusted about that.
Very well done. You had less men, twice as many kills, and about 2/3's of your army was able to make it home.
It really demonstrates the biggest threat to corner campers; routing will instantly remove one of your units from the battlefield. As an attacker, there's a chance a routing unit may return, but in any case, the battle shall end very quickly once its decided.
thank you sir!
I've fought this same guy you are fighting MF atleast 10 times on medieval 2, he's a known troll that always pulls things like this.
Where can I play online Total War?
@@felipegome1 you need to download more ram
It will give you access automatically
Why one can't just bring 1 catapult?..
On Steam or Game Ranger@@felipegome1
@@felipegome1hehe asian servers always be empty
The title of this video, but applied to real life
'They will acknowledge the game is rigged from the very start, yet they'll get mad at you for cheating'
Sounds like a casino haha
“Play like a gentleman, and you be respected.”
Poor boy.
@@mcdull68 That never happens irl, ONLY between men of honor you will see respect for the quality of character.
Play by rules with the common folk and you will be defeated by the million cheaters around you
You know once Earth told me "if I know luke, he wouldnt mind to stay in a battle on rtw for 3 days just for a win" LMFAO
True
I would have just set my army up and watched tv. Let him sit there and stare at me for a few hours.
hahhahahah I was thinking the same
So the guy did a cheap cheese, but managed to do it so poorly that he still failed? Now that is quality entertainment. Well done!
I feel bad doing this to the ai, doing this online is genuinely one of the lamest things ever lol
Yeah, the only thing worse is when people use the command to kick you from the game and then play against the AI.
@@lukeinvictus Wait another player can just kick you from match whenever?
yes@@szymonrozanski6938
Well, that answer my question as to "Why can't you just wait for him to come to you and bleed his time?"
True, i only used this 'tactic' against rebel armies when they got too annoying in late game.
Honestly feels like a real Romans vs. Greeks battle. Greeks having the homefield advantage and using tactics they've been using for centuries, only to lose to what is on paper a laughable strategy by the Romans purely because the Greeks were overconfident and the Romans were suicidally determined.
thats why this game is awesome
Great job reading that guy like a book betting that he wouldn't reinforce the side you were attacking immediately. An excellent lesson on game sense and getting in your opponents head
thanks for the kind words :)
I thought about corner camping, and in my opinion there is a easy solution for it.
Make it so the closer your units are to a border, the less morale they recover passively, and when too close, even lose morale passively.
Or have adding temporary zone after red line, not that big but enough to flank. And units in that zone will lose morale/health over time, so u can flank the cornercamper if u fast enough))
@@easytanksgaming3238 That was my first thought, and it would be an improvement indeed, but you could still cornercamp with a complete pikebox, with the extra of having two side almost invulnerable.
The units that try to flank to attack you would get the penalty and rout.
had the same thought
@javiermercado1996 yeah u totally right. That's why conversation is needed in socium, to show the question from all sides
imo an easy way would be to just cut corners. make it a diagonal line... this would prevent semi-circles and at the very least, stretch out and significantly weaken this kind of defense. It may even open up a flanking opportunity, too, as soft angles are harder to cover in TW than hard angles due to the rectangular units.
Glad you crushed this guy
Insane video, hats off to you for defeating this doom noob box
I started an online game with my in-law last weekend and we were amazed MP games were still going.
Kudos to you, great battle and video.
When an unstoppable force meets a movable object
Only ever played medieval 2 but this was a joy to watch. Way to stick with it.
Glad you beat this guy, what a tool. Also it's great you got the modified zoom camera, its nice to see everything.
Holy! You opponent didn't know who he was up against. You clearly had much greater tactical knowledge. I've played this game a lot, but I never even came close to your level. You were vicious with your Brutii! Flawless tactic. Truly impressive!
thank you, very kind words :)
theese old dead game communities always have massive toxic no lifers.
I guess that applies equally to me and my opponent :D
How did he lose... HOW. He could have won in half a dozen different ways
the kind of person to use such a braindead tactic is ...well...
@@lukeinvictusbraindead people have braindead tactics
“This is where we hold the line…..lines..”
I never have seen this game but i really enjoy watching it
Glad you enjoyed it! You should give it a shot, this game is awesome.
gg cant believe u won this
Until the end I was thinking: plot twist! You were the Greeks all along!
world needs more people like you
I think the way pila works is that the closer you are to the enemy, the less triangulation there is between your models and the enemies, and so there is less overlap and overkill on individual models. Essentially you are targeting more models by virtue of each one being closer to your own individual models-i don't think the "damage" per pila changes with distance. Thats why loose formation loses fewer in exchanges compared to tight formation-there is less overkill on the enemy.
I think that there is some under explored potential in doing more column-based pila fights where you only have the front couple ranks throwing pila, so they have a surplus of targets, while recieving a massive amount of overkill on the few exposed models in the front of the formation.
There could also be value in timing your pila throws to have longer gaps between them, so that the enemy formation can automatically repopulate the front lines between throws, reducing overkill.
I meant damage in a results sort of way not in terms of the actual damage statistic
@@lukeinvictus I know man, I was just expanding on the idea.
Beautiful chain route in the end.
Satisfying AF!
Great video man, you clapped him nice👏👏👏
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed!
As someone who does the Pokey stick Circle tactic against the AI I am fully happy that you beat this man. Like why even bother playing the game at this point he's essentially not doing anything.
Big props to yourself for the win! Its interesting that Massed cavalry still get bully/push power against Pikemen
Question: Would artillery have helped here? It's been a million years since I played RTW so I don't remember how useful artillery is, but seeing that clumped-up formation makes me want to drop a flaming onager round in there SO bad
This was a so called 31k battle. With 31k ruleset artillery is banned. Generally artillery is quite RNG dependant but in this case it could be good indeed
Yep it would have helped but he stipulated no artillery, and I followed the rules
I've played against this guy more than once. The first time he "got" me and I just said "gj on being so bad you have to edit the game this much in your favour I guess" and left. The second time I recognised the username and ignored his stipulation for no artillery and did exactly that - turned his entire army into fiery red mist before he realised what I'd done, and when he whined about it I laughed at him. The 3rd time I did the same, he saw my army and instantly said "fuck off" in the chat and left 😂😂
@@jammyjimmy666based
gg im so happy you won vs whatever was that guy
thanks :)
Well, this expression applies to this scenario, the guy played stupid games, he earned stupid prizes, he got defeat from the jaws of victory and you did the impossible, congrats, nice battle.
Whats more interesting is the redeployment of units to face the archers ignoring the corner that was getting pelted
one time some kid started just mouthing off at me in the pregame so I just bought praetorians and onagers because f him
thats why I love rtw, the random unhinged beef
ladies and gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!
Nice one!
prince of macedon would be so proud...
Well done! That other guy should be ashamed.
A true heroic win.
No idea what this game is or why it popped up on my feed but it kept me interested the whole time, GG's
I remember doing some cheezy stupid strategies in the early days of barbarian invasion. 3 roman armies.
I hid my full sarmation cav in the forest waiting for the other 2 armies to duke it out. Joke was on me ofcourse
cause of scored resolution.
Even his corner camp is bad tho.
You'd want to have some extra space to keep units in reserve to reinforce the lines.
or am I crazy?
Man I used to loooooooove corner camping back in the Rome days. Not because of trolling, which was fun, but because I’m just a piece of sh!t
I did a personal challenge once. In Rome 2. I tried to migrate the entire kingdom of Sparta to the British Isles and conquer it. I did this strat. I had one army that won every battle it fought...except one. No one wins a hundred chances. I fought 5 battle in a row outnumbered each time. Battle 1, 2 armies 5k vs my 3k. Second battle 3k, vs my 2.2k. 3rd battle, 2k vs my 1k. 4th, 700 vs my 200. Each battle was fought in the corner with a forest to block archer and projectiles. Legendary difficulty. The final battle was one last desperate attempt my 45 men vs 300 of theirs. I tried to kill their general and almost did. This is how I won a few of these previous engagements.
Seems like the heavily blobbed up formation worked in your favour as I can't see the hoplites putting their spears down (or maybe your opponent forgot)
Spartans: Hah! I'm protected by the great red wall of Greece!
Roman: Brinng in the Mangonel
Spartan: Mago what?
artillery in this battle would be so funny
I play local games against my son...the most fun is when we go down through the nations and let the game pick our armies 😂
That’s so cool
No point fighting one who barely actually played. I would have quitted right seeing this 😂. Great job!
absolute fucking legend
thank you for your service
Always satisfying to see a cheap player get what they deserve. Amazing win and better than I could've possibly done.
I would've been stubborn as hell and just stood there, tabbed out to do something else, and wait until time ran out or until they left the match
Cheesy strategy for the Spartans
Actually kind of similar to how the Thebans defeated the Spartans at Leuktra I believe in 371 BC and gained the hegemony in Greece.
Very nice 👍
Heroic Victory
A truly Roman fight: full front, direct combat
on even terrain…
Had you known the kind of army and strategy your opponent was going to take, would you have taken a different army composition to this game? would you have included any artillery (assuming they can climb such steep inclines)?
Artillery would have been extremely effective here, however the answer is no because the rules of the game that the player hosted for were “31k” which is a rule set that bans artillery. So I’m glad I won fair and square, even if my opponent didn’t play fair.
good job
That was awesome! Did he rage at you afterwards?
no he just exited the lobby lol
Would have been so satisfying if you had mangonels to hit his packed units, still a great victory though.
He had the foresight to ban artillery
I'd go to the next highest corner, set up my defense, turn the game volume way up, and walk away. Go fix dinner. Clean the house or something. File taxes.
Let him quit.
Awesome!
glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah, I'd of been to stubborn to leave too, difference is I would have lost.
I wish they would fix this edge guard bs, I think the simplest way is to make a unit more likely to flee the longer and closer it is to the edge. That way in a situation like this you wait in the center a let him break and run…
With a Medieval 2 TW copy upcoming to Roblox, I'm taking notes with this gut feeling there'll be a lot of players using this darn tactics xD
There’s a total war-esque game on Roblox? I didn’t know the engine could handle a type of game like that. What is it called?
@@internetguy2760 Spearhead, their is a gameplay trailer on RUclips and it will release sometime this summer.
If missile fire works the same way it does in Medieval 2, shooting the enemys "unshielded" side doesn't matter; as long as you are hitting a flank you are getting a bonus to missile fire.
Specifically, you will negate half their shield bonus at the flank and negate ALL their shield stat if hitting them from behind. Hitting their left or right side doesn't signify
@@logangustavson it matters on Rome 1.
The hill was a good idea but corner camping only works against the ai
Literally my strat in any game against romans😂 never failed at least ones. On grasslands it’s going hord, it’s doable with Armenia, Scythia and Parthia )
How hard is it to make a map that broadens and moves the red line as both armies get closer to it?
In modern TW games, it should be very possible to even make the game generate more map, so that two armies can practically keep marching in one direction for days on end. But even just a slight shift of the red line once the armies both get close to it would prevent corner camping entirely.
Corner camping isn’t really a widespread problem anyway, and some people prefer that the battle be contained, for the same reason that people like a boxing match to be in a ring rather than in a wide open field
Good Job Brother! It is great that you were able to defeat this pathetic Rome player, whose only contribution to the game is building a map that he thinks he's invincible in that takes an hour to start.. what satisfaction does this dude get out of corner camping? Its baffling... If you can't win, learn how the effing game works.
I thought it was solo and you were doing a fun corner camp, then i understood :O what a douchbag to corner camp like that in pvp
I would have corner camped on the other side of the map to see what happens.
what a chad
Impressive. You said he insulted you in the beginning of the match. How did he react to losing?
Some close ups would have been nice
Yea I’ll try to work on the camera stuff. I operate the cam with my mouse, which isn’t ideal for video making
Hi, don't you kow about a litle trick of breaking phalanxes from the front using testudo formation?
I do, yes.
@@lukeinvictusIt would've fun to punish that dude that way. :) "My cheese is stronger than yours!"
Archers💯💯💯💯
It's been years since I played, but aren't the armored hoplites a lot better at defending than Spartans?
They have a higher defense stat, but having a higher attack is better for holding a position like this, because urbans are superior to anything in sword range. Doing more damage to them as they try to get past the spears is the most important trait.
Bro really just Julius Ceasar'ed him, this is beyond awesome
Thanks man :) I’m glad you enjoyed the video
Sent that rookie packing
Yo way to stick with it
Thanks!
I do this all the time vs the AI on hard battles in the campaign
Try this but with seleucid pikemen. It is even more effective.
Legate Lanius would never
It has been ages since I played RTW. I was never good at online battles, but gods help us, I never tried this corner nonsense. I liked playing flat maps even though a more astute player typically beat me easily. Hills don't really allow much in maneuvering, and hey, I might lose but at least it's interesting.
Yeah I mean it’s so obviously cheap I can’t believe anyone over 12 is doing this but here we are
a regular cynoscephalae
First Battle on the Isonzo-Front
It seems the downside of this corner strategy is also pretty obvious - when a unit rout it would immediately quit the battle map, unlike usually you can regroup many of the routing units.
thats true but you should never be losing units in the first place fighting downhill
you remind me of princeofmacedon
Great
I can't remember how artillery works in Rome, but seriously, I'd rather always bring one piece against any faction that would probably go heavy into hoplites. It forces them to not just sit and be defensive cunts.
Edit: Also, jesus christ. The way he set up his units is bonkers. He could've easily set up several layers of spears with plenty of room for his archers. But instead he just massed them in a single clump in the corner where they couldn't move. Absolutely perplexing.
He had a no art rule
@@lukeinvictusbecause of course he did
@@lukeinvictus lmfao. Gotta love it.
I mean I did the cheese strat on my friend on a bridge map ( block a bridge with a phalanx and watch the meat grinder)
I did then beat him mutiple times on a flat maps just to show it was not a fluke
tbf to me my mate didn't care at least he didn't admit he cared
and he kicked my arse in cossacks
I corner camp the AI
would only do what the troll did if it was a "Yep I lost this game but I'm going to bring down as many of you as possible)
I sort of wonder if this strategy would be viable if you had artillery. I mean the fact that their units are so cramped would make them an amazing target for it.
it wouldnt which is why he banned art in the rules
@@lukeinvictusWhat a scumbag
Dude, chill with the camera movements.
Imagine if you had artillery))
banned in the rules he hosted for
Zionism ftw
I'm rooting against this guy hard. I used this strategy when I was 10..
To beat redline campers is thee easiest thing to do in this game I swear XD with Rome obviously, kind of like noob boxes. Spartans in a corner just makes them worse for some reason, I don't know why people think its a good idea still on top of a hill and redline camping. I beat a modded rebel army on the steepest modded hill possible and I still beat them XD Forget just beating them too, just wait them tf out. Even if it takes 3 hours.
This land is Roman!!!!