Your videos are addictive. I don't work with locks or with anything related but I like to see how to overcome most of the locking mechanisms and how badly constructed are most of the padlocks and bike locks. Very well made videos, not too long and never boring. Congratulations!
+Bill S I agree with your conclusion, but not reasoning. Thieves simply don't take the considerable time required to develop the skills required. There is nothing inherently tricky about these locks.
@@lockpickinglawyer Agreed. Most thieves/criminals are lazy by nature, as their mission and mindset is quick wealth with little work. Which in reality is the hardest lifestyle for when you fail, which they a eventually do....
@@done2121Did you ever hear of Loctite? There's a version that's used for bolts to never be removed anymore. Just remove the bolts, put a bit on the threads and screw them tightly back into place. And if that's still not enough, use a drillbit and round the heads of the bolts after putting them back into the lock.
You gotta keep in mind he is a VERY VERY skilled lockpick, and also these disc detainer cores he's blasting thru and opening often don't have proper false gates. He speaks to this on this video ruclips.net/video/FfFTNsowDvk/видео.html If you look around at all the picking videos on youtube, almost none of them are doing disc detainers which further proves how challenging these are. You're much better of with a disc core as most intruders won't even begin to have the tools to compromise the core of the lock, whereas it's much more likely (if they're going for a surreptitious attack) they will have standard picks, rakes, and bump keys thus making you more vulnerable.
mwiz100, only 6 months ago he stated that picking the Abus plus core was "certainly beyond his current abilities". So it's perhaps not the insurmountable challenge it appears to be. Either way, he has yet to pick the Abloy protec -- the holy grail of disc detainers n'est-ce pas?
Disk lock is a combo lock ., Usually disks have 6 cuts Abloy have also 7 cut version and they have had versions where they mix different disks . There is thinner and taller versions of disks . That core is very short and by key its 6 disks , with 6 cuts/disk thats only 46656 possible locks . Going with that number and let say that make 1 000 000 locks with that core ...thats 21 locks that have same core and key !
Remember, LPL is very skilled and knowledgeable compared to your average folk. Also, this is a motorcycle lock but he makes it look easier because he only has it on a table. If a crook were to attempt picking this while it was on a motorcycle he would not have an easy time. For God's sake the first step was to remove the plastic cover plate. Don't you think that would attract the attention of people walking by, a guy fiddling with the lock??
I have a 2013 Kryptonite NewYork Lock and it has the exact internal plastic construction. I think they upgraded their lock with the new internal metal construction and continued the old plastic one with this new labeled model.
+Mark England Jaakko made this pick for me. He occasionally does a run of 10 or so, but the quality workmanship comes with a steep price. I'm currently converting a Chinese tool that was made for Abloy classic (but has no hope of opening one) into a top tension tool with about 20mm of reach so I don't have to disassemble locks before picking.
1:00 you say that the NY version has a 16mm shackle and the evolution a 14mm. Did you measure these or can you tell me where you got this information? On the Kryptonite website they are both listed as 14mm and I've been trying to figure out what's the difference.
Sorry but i have a question. Looks so easy! I want to have the best look for my Harley. Which one is the best? Please tell me. Best regards from Germany :)
Very impressive. Again the tool catches my interested. I would love to see a video about your disc detainer pick tools - different constructions and applications (front or back disc tensioning). Are there locks that tension from a disk in-between?
As much as I love picking and admire your skills.. I love the brute force vids, I feel like your 'average thief' is gonna be brute force 99.999999999999% of the time... Also.. is there any locks you cannot pick or brute force?? Regardless of cost?
@TheDrunkUncle I rest my case and I really appreciate the response in this regard. Now we all know what to look for in a lock at least I presume. Thank you!
It looks like the end piece that turns is interference fit, didn’t see a set screw or roll pin or any type of pin in it to hold it on. Would take a scribe and mark it, put it in a vise with that facing the ground, and heat it with a torch. Shouldn’t take much heat on a small piece to make it grow, and it fall off, let everything cool, and then disassemble it. Reassemble it then mount it back in the vise with that end facing up, and reheat your part, pick it up with some pliers, and reinstall it with you marks aligned.
So, in your opinion,, if this lock(including its sister), had a fixed buffer plate outside the lock, i.e. the plastic was metal and riveted, or if someone bought the lock and replaced the screws with normal flatheads and filed them to a smooth finish, would that make it more difficult to attack and propably bypass this lock? I suppose that since your #1 concern is the tool's reach then a way to secure the protective plastic buffer would render it very diffficult to pick? (after all fixing the screws wouldn't mind the owner, its not like you're gonna be dismantling it for fun every hour...)
Montragon29 when he did the slide hammer attack on the master ulock i checked my new york mini ulock older version which is built just like this. Upon seeing the internals, i came to the same conclusion about a redesign. The plastic plug need to go and be replaced with a metal core, aluminum or steel. The locks needs riviting or captive pins so it cant come apart. Its not really user or technically serviceable so theres no reason i can see other than economy for the design. I messaged kryptonite about that and the lack of false gates in the core.
So one common thing I'm seeing with these Kryptonite locks is that for all the "rating" they give these, they don't use accessable screws with either uncommon heads or security posts. Granted the bits to drive those are easily obtainable, but it's still better than just a plain hex wrench.
"Security through obscurity" is a myth. The thieves are already able to figure out how to pick or break locks open. There are devices such as comb-picks, rakes and bump-keys that are on public record, because they had patent applications over fifty years ago. And yet lock companies still sell easily-defeated locks and claim they have "high security". And companies that make things like bikes benefit financially from theft, because they get to sell replacement bikes. Even companies that sell locks make more money selling a customer multiple locks that do not do the job properly. The only people paying for the problem of most locks not being as good as they are advertised to be are end customers and insurance companies. (And the insurance companies past the costs back to the customer.) Instead of accusing LockPickingLawer of educating theives, you should write to your local government representative and demand that they make locks that are easily bypassed illegal. And you should write to your government representative to demand that they hire locksport experts to design the legal standards that lock ratings are sold by. In my country we have the British Standards Institute. And it is illegal to sell electrical devices that do not have plugs that come up to BS 1363. Plugs and electrical sockets that come up to BS 1363 are far safer than plugs and sockets used in the USA. The USA could easily switch to it's own standard, similar to BS 1363. If enough people in the US lobbied government that could happen and lives would be saved. Likewise it would be relatively easy for the British Government to pass a law requiring locks sold in the UK to be immune to comb picks, rake attacks, and bump keys and teach all the trading standards officers in the UK, how to use those security bypass devices. Cheap locks imported into the UK, that didn't obey the standards would then be illegal. Consumers would be better off. But that is not going to happen, while politicians in various countries, are ignorant about how knowingly flawed the lock industry is. There are good companies that make good locks. But they get undercut by companies that sell poor quality locks and that feed customers BS. The politicians need to be educated about the scale of the problem. And then they need to bring in independent testing of locks. And they have to start banning locks that offer zero security. In the meantime, educating the consumer (and also the voter) is the best course of action. And LockPickingLawyer is making fun videos that over time show people that a lot of security devices are an illusion.
Yes i believe so. When he did the slide hammer attack on the master mini u lock, i checked my new york mini which is an older model and made just like the evolution with only one tube instead of two and its oval not round. I think its a pretty secure lock as this one is for most attacks, but i think a melt attack focusing on the side of the lock in the middle would heat the plug and core enough that it could be turned, opening then lock. I have not tried this yet and probably wont as its a 100$ lock and chain combo that i am using. Unfortuntely wasnt using it when my ebike got stolen. But i think its a vulnerability and messaged kryptonite about it.
I couldn't figure out how to pm you, so with that said maybe I can get a reply on the comments. I'm looking to get into picking. Specifically single pin picking to start with and then expand from there if I really enjoy it. I think I will considering i have benged watch over half of your videos. Anyway with that being said there are too many starter pick kits or just kits in general to make an educated/ good buy. Not to mention I don't like the tension tools that come with most sets. I don't want to spend a fortune just in case I don't end up enjoying it as much as I think I will. Maybe 25 dollars at the most on picks. So my question is if I buy a set what is your recommendations on that and or if I were to piece a set together what individual picks should I get? Everything I have seen as far as sets doesn't give a good enough discription as far as the thickness of individual picks and hook size. I'm simply at a loss and any suggestions would be a great help.
Does preventing the plastic cover to be removed increase the security ? Because if yes, I will jam a ball from a ball bearing inside the hex heads of the screws...
RUclips user AvE does tool disassembly videos and often gets into exact plastic types. Could tell you if that is a glass impregnated high temperature plastic.
+Morellio Benoir I would, but it doesn't really matter here, unless this was a thermoset plastic (which will not melt)... and this is not. The plastic in this lock is not load bearing. It is merely a guide. 👍 ps- I love AvE. GREAT channel!
I bought it for my KTM Duke 390! Considering what they can do with portable grinders, one can only hope it provides enough of a disincentive when other locks are used as well, if only time-wise.
I would like to see you pick one of those 3 disc Abloy disc detainer locks. I think it is the Abloy that has the 3 disc core but if I am wrong then you can let me know.
in those locks the first disc is always 0 bitted for tensioning (all the way cw, no cut on the key). Thats why he always turns all discs as far as they will go at first; you are turning that first disc into its gate so you know it will never bind. Then you can tension from that first disc and then turn the other discs back to their respective gates depending on their binding order.
please go after the locks you would recommend, not only would it be a good challenge, but it would give you a good chance to clearly show the best of the best
Ah very nice :) Still you were very lucky that you could tension it on the first disc ;) Try a bike lock with x-plus core and a butterfly disc on the front.
+Christian Weller Not lucky... just an old lock. As for the newer ones with the butterfly discs, I have a few ideas for dealing with that. We will see if any of them pan out. 👍
I think it should be possible to tension the butterfly disc together with the disc behind it, with a deep enough tool. It is always a 6 cut so tensioning on the disc behind it should prevent an overset and put it just right. Next Problem is that the second disc might not be a 6 cut and prevent the other discs from binding. Don't know how to deal with that. Although I successfully picked chinese locks with the front tensioning tool by using the movable part to turn the core and then turning back the front disc last with the tensioning part. Looking forward to new videos from you :)
PsychoticBovine no disc brake locks for bikes offer any real sort of protection, just a deterrant. Multiple old school beefy padlocks with an Abloy Protec2 core, combined with a Pewag 12mm 62-63 rockwell hardness chain, or larger size by Pragmasis or similar should do the trick. Padlocks, Abus Granit 80mm, Squire 80mm, Sargent & Greenleaf 951 or Abus Rock 80mm. There are plenty of others but the chain would need to fit the padlock.🍺✌
Oh yeah great video. Just show thieves and wanna be thieves what to use and how to use it. WE who use these things thank you very very much for putting our stuff at a higher risk.
He's funny... While there's no such thing as an "unpickable lock", This was definitely not "Quick", also no Bike thief is walking around with these tools. Conceptually ridiculous. Same concept as thinking burglars break into homes by picking the lock, they don't. They kick in the door, or break a window. You can feel free to utilize these locks. The thief will move into the bike with a simple Cable lock or thin U lock. Stop with this nonsense.
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Your videos are addictive. I don't work with locks or with anything related but I like to see how to overcome most of the locking mechanisms and how badly constructed are most of the padlocks and bike locks. Very well made videos, not too long and never boring. Congratulations!
I really don’t think that lock is pickable in the “wild” by a thief who is in a hurry and dealing with the elements and or witnesses.
+Bill S I agree with your conclusion, but not reasoning. Thieves simply don't take the considerable time required to develop the skills required. There is nothing inherently tricky about these locks.
@@lockpickinglawyer Agreed. Most thieves/criminals are lazy by nature, as their mission and mindset is quick wealth with little work. Which in reality is the hardest lifestyle for when you fail, which they a eventually do....
@Haseeb 2 what are the dimensions of the magnets that you used for this?
you sir are very skilled with a disc detainer pick no doubt about it nice picking and fair review
Well, that was interesting. Got to rethink my bike lock security now.
Thanks, I made the little bolts on the dust cover almost impossible to take out after seeing this video.
I'd like to know how so I can fix mine.
@@done2121Did you ever hear of Loctite? There's a version that's used for bolts to never be removed anymore. Just remove the bolts, put a bit on the threads and screw them tightly back into place. And if that's still not enough, use a drillbit and round the heads of the bolts after putting them back into the lock.
Ramset Ramset Ramset!!!
You really have destroyed my faith in the security of the disc detainer locks.
I totally agree he burns through them quicker than other types of cores, I will steer clear of disc locks.
You gotta keep in mind he is a VERY VERY skilled lockpick, and also these disc detainer cores he's blasting thru and opening often don't have proper false gates. He speaks to this on this video ruclips.net/video/FfFTNsowDvk/видео.html If you look around at all the picking videos on youtube, almost none of them are doing disc detainers which further proves how challenging these are.
You're much better of with a disc core as most intruders won't even begin to have the tools to compromise the core of the lock, whereas it's much more likely (if they're going for a surreptitious attack) they will have standard picks, rakes, and bump keys thus making you more vulnerable.
mwiz100, only 6 months ago he stated that picking the Abus plus core was "certainly beyond his current abilities". So it's perhaps not the insurmountable challenge it appears to be. Either way, he has yet to pick the Abloy protec -- the holy grail of disc detainers n'est-ce pas?
Disk lock is a combo lock ., Usually disks have 6 cuts Abloy have also 7 cut version and they have had versions where they mix different disks .
There is thinner and taller versions of disks .
That core is very short and by key its 6 disks , with 6 cuts/disk thats only 46656 possible locks .
Going with that number and let say that make 1 000 000 locks with that core ...thats 21 locks that have same core and key !
Remember, LPL is very skilled and knowledgeable compared to your average folk. Also, this is a motorcycle lock but he makes it look easier because he only has it on a table. If a crook were to attempt picking this while it was on a motorcycle he would not have an easy time. For God's sake the first step was to remove the plastic cover plate. Don't you think that would attract the attention of people walking by, a guy fiddling with the lock??
I don't know if you've done it, but I'd *love* to see you try a heat attack to melt the plastic
I have a 2013 Kryptonite NewYork Lock and it has the exact internal plastic construction. I think they upgraded their lock with the new internal metal construction and continued the old plastic one with this new labeled model.
Note to self: Put some epoxy glue on the small screws to prevent removing the dust cover with much ease.
Very nice job! So this pick was custom made... Now I understand why you said it was cost prohibitive.
+Mark England Jaakko made this pick for me. He occasionally does a run of 10 or so, but the quality workmanship comes with a steep price. I'm currently converting a Chinese tool that was made for Abloy classic (but has no hope of opening one) into a top tension tool with about 20mm of reach so I don't have to disassemble locks before picking.
1:00 you say that the NY version has a 16mm shackle and the evolution a 14mm. Did you measure these or can you tell me where you got this information? On the Kryptonite website they are both listed as 14mm and I've been trying to figure out what's the difference.
Sorry but i have a question. Looks so easy! I want to have the best look for my Harley. Which one is the best? Please tell me. Best regards from Germany :)
What is the best bike lock ???
One of these days I'm going to have to try picking disc detainers. Looks like an interesting contrast to picking pin-tumblers.
Very impressive. Again the tool catches my interested. I would love to see a video about your disc detainer pick tools - different constructions and applications (front or back disc tensioning). Are there locks that tension from a disk in-between?
Yes, yes! And a see-through DL would be a real treat (If they exist :)
As much as I love picking and admire your skills.. I love the brute force vids, I feel like your 'average thief' is gonna be brute force 99.999999999999% of the time... Also.. is there any locks you cannot pick or brute force?? Regardless of cost?
Yeah, is there any lock that you cannot pick ?
Yes, he said that he can't pick some locks in his heaviest locks collection I think
And they are ??
@TheDrunkUncle hello, I'm sorry to say it, but he picked it on 2:43. That is on video number 154.
@TheDrunkUncle I rest my case and I really appreciate the response in this regard. Now we all know what to look for in a lock at least I presume. Thank you!
Great picking brother. Thanks for the review!
It looks like the end piece that turns is interference fit, didn’t see a set screw or roll pin or any type of pin in it to hold it on. Would take a scribe and mark it, put it in a vise with that facing the ground, and heat it with a torch. Shouldn’t take much heat on a small piece to make it grow, and it fall off, let everything cool, and then disassemble it. Reassemble it then mount it back in the vise with that end facing up, and reheat your part, pick it up with some pliers, and reinstall it with you marks aligned.
So, in your opinion,, if this lock(including its sister), had a fixed buffer plate outside the lock, i.e. the plastic was metal and riveted, or if someone bought the lock and replaced the screws with normal flatheads and filed them to a smooth finish, would that make it more difficult to attack and propably bypass this lock? I suppose that since your #1 concern is the tool's reach then a way to secure the protective plastic buffer would render it very diffficult to pick? (after all fixing the screws wouldn't mind the owner, its not like you're gonna be dismantling it for fun every hour...)
Montragon29 when he did the slide hammer attack on the master ulock i checked my new york mini ulock older version which is built just like this. Upon seeing the internals, i came to the same conclusion about a redesign. The plastic plug need to go and be replaced with a metal core, aluminum or steel. The locks needs riviting or captive pins so it cant come apart. Its not really user or technically serviceable so theres no reason i can see other than economy for the design.
I messaged kryptonite about that and the lack of false gates in the core.
So one common thing I'm seeing with these Kryptonite locks is that for all the "rating" they give these, they don't use accessable screws with either uncommon heads or security posts. Granted the bits to drive those are easily obtainable, but it's still better than just a plain hex wrench.
Amazing... and frightening. Are there any motorcycle disc locks that you would recommend?
I've seen your videos. Now I don't know - which lock to buy?
Have you ever heard of ingersoll company. They have produced some high security locks for the U.S since 1988 and make really neat locks.
Thanks for educating would be thieves on how to break locks😂
"Security through obscurity" is a myth. The thieves are already able to figure out how to pick or break locks open.
There are devices such as comb-picks, rakes and bump-keys that are on public record, because they had patent applications over fifty years ago. And yet lock companies still sell easily-defeated locks and claim they have "high security". And companies that make things like bikes benefit financially from theft, because they get to sell replacement bikes. Even companies that sell locks make more money selling a customer multiple locks that do not do the job properly.
The only people paying for the problem of most locks not being as good as they are advertised to be are end customers and insurance companies. (And the insurance companies past the costs back to the customer.)
Instead of accusing LockPickingLawer of educating theives, you should write to your local government representative and demand that they make locks that are easily bypassed illegal. And you should write to your government representative to demand that they hire locksport experts to design the legal standards that lock ratings are sold by.
In my country we have the British Standards Institute. And it is illegal to sell electrical devices that do not have plugs that come up to BS 1363. Plugs and electrical sockets that come up to BS 1363 are far safer than plugs and sockets used in the USA. The USA could easily switch to it's own standard, similar to BS 1363. If enough people in the US lobbied government that could happen and lives would be saved.
Likewise it would be relatively easy for the British Government to pass a law requiring locks sold in the UK to be immune to comb picks, rake attacks, and bump keys and teach all the trading standards officers in the UK, how to use those security bypass devices. Cheap locks imported into the UK, that didn't obey the standards would then be illegal. Consumers would be better off.
But that is not going to happen, while politicians in various countries, are ignorant about how knowingly flawed the lock industry is. There are good companies that make good locks. But they get undercut by companies that sell poor quality locks and that feed customers BS. The politicians need to be educated about the scale of the problem. And then they need to bring in independent testing of locks. And they have to start banning locks that offer zero security.
In the meantime, educating the consumer (and also the voter) is the best course of action. And LockPickingLawyer is making fun videos that over time show people that a lot of security devices are an illusion.
Melting the plastic core would not allow the bolts to retract, but would it allow the core itself to turn if heated?
+Modern Leveller good point. Maybe. My concern about practically of this is the potential for seizing parts up... it might be worth a test. 😈
Yes i believe so. When he did the slide hammer attack on the master mini u lock, i checked my new york mini which is an older model and made just like the evolution with only one tube instead of two and its oval not round. I think its a pretty secure lock as this one is for most attacks, but i think a melt attack focusing on the side of the lock in the middle would heat the plug and core enough that it could be turned, opening then lock. I have not tried this yet and probably wont as its a 100$ lock and chain combo that i am using. Unfortuntely wasnt using it when my ebike got stolen. But i think its a vulnerability and messaged kryptonite about it.
metamorphicorder Just put a big steel tube around the lock body, and fill the void with mineral wool :) Install end caps.
I couldn't figure out how to pm you, so with that said maybe I can get a reply on the comments.
I'm looking to get into picking. Specifically single pin picking to start with and then expand from there if I really enjoy it. I think I will considering i have benged watch over half of your videos. Anyway with that being said there are too many starter pick kits or just kits in general to make an educated/ good buy. Not to mention I don't like the tension tools that come with most sets. I don't want to spend a fortune just in case I don't end up enjoying it as much as I think I will. Maybe 25 dollars at the most on picks. So my question is if I buy a set what is your recommendations on that and or if I were to piece a set together what individual picks should I get? Everything I have seen as far as sets doesn't give a good enough discription as far as the thickness of individual picks and hook size. I'm simply at a loss and any suggestions would be a great help.
Hey, can you try Induction heating on one of there locks to see how long it takes to melt the core ? Bolt BusterTM is an example.
+stilkus I'll see if there's a cost effective way to do this. I like the idea.
So its five years later. Do you have a recommendation for a brand or model of a motorcycle lock?
I'd have to see more detail on the core, but I suspect snap ring pliers could pop that ring out.
I use this lock its cool to see how it works I find your videos very interesting
LOL at the name "New York" lock which hints how bad the New York theft situation is. You must be the CEO(Chief Engineer Officer) of Locksmith.
Does preventing the plastic cover to be removed increase the security ? Because if yes, I will jam a ball from a ball bearing inside the hex heads of the screws...
Can you try a melt attack on it?
Great video. Thanks
RUclips user AvE does tool disassembly videos and often gets into exact plastic types. Could tell you if that is a glass impregnated high temperature plastic.
+Morellio Benoir I would, but it doesn't really matter here, unless this was a thermoset plastic (which will not melt)... and this is not. The plastic in this lock is not load bearing. It is merely a guide. 👍 ps- I love AvE. GREAT channel!
+Morellio Benoir
Glass impregnated and high temperature are two unrelated things. Glass impregnation is for rigidity.
So which do you recommend for a motorcycle? thnx.
I opened it with the tool you and Bosnian bill made.
What wheel and /or disc brake lock do you recommend for motorcycle??
I bought this lock for my KTM RC390, I´m not feeling so much secure as before 😂
I bought it for my KTM Duke 390! Considering what they can do with portable grinders, one can only hope it provides enough of a disincentive when other locks are used as well, if only time-wise.
Just make the dust cover bolts hard to take off and it's probably never gonna be picked even by a all expensively equipped movie thief
Great pick!
I have an abus 341 finland. I would like to know if you could pick it. Bill said he couldn't.
Would a big hammer brake the plastic and open the lock.
I would like to see you pick one of those 3 disc Abloy disc detainer locks. I think it is the Abloy that has the 3 disc core but if I am wrong then you can let me know.
+The Avid Picker The only three disc lock I can think of is the railroad variant of the S&G Environmental. Is that what you are thinking about?
Also in his most recent video on a three phase motor, AvE used *bread* to push out a bearing, I wonder if that could be used on locks. :D
ruclips.net/video/8GGQA-EpI1o/видео.html 28:00
i'd like to see you try the Ramset Gun on this lock..
Is that a tag 5 disc pick?
So, when you say you're tensioning from the first disc, you mean that you're binding the first disc but then another disc will bind after that?
in those locks the first disc is always 0 bitted for tensioning (all the way cw, no cut on the key). Thats why he always turns all discs as far as they will go at first; you are turning that first disc into its gate so you know it will never bind. Then you can tension from that first disc and then turn the other discs back to their respective gates depending on their binding order.
Wondering if Kryptonite or anyone from their contacted you about you picks and design of their locks?
From where you get your normal picks
please go after the locks you would recommend, not only would it be a good challenge, but it would give you a good chance to clearly show the best of the best
Is there any lock that is really anti pick
Kryptonite has the New York locks shackle listed as 14mm not 16mm. I can't seem to find one that had a 16. Anyone know why?
This isn’t the New York Lock.
The dimensions internal arch?
What if abloy classic lock?Easy to pick like this lock?
+ho kwok I have not explored it yet. I don't have the tools yet. That said, at a minimum, the Abloy has false gates!
ho kwok at least a proper Abloy (even the classic) has decent false gates 😉
Now do the ABUS and I am impressed ;)
+Christian Weller Like video 548? 😁
Ah very nice :) Still you were very lucky that you could tension it on the first disc ;) Try a bike lock with x-plus core and a butterfly disc on the front.
+Christian Weller Not lucky... just an old lock. As for the newer ones with the butterfly discs, I have a few ideas for dealing with that. We will see if any of them pan out. 👍
I think it should be possible to tension the butterfly disc together with the disc behind it, with a deep enough tool. It is always a 6 cut so tensioning on the disc behind it should prevent an overset and put it just right. Next Problem is that the second disc might not be a 6 cut and prevent the other discs from binding. Don't know how to deal with that. Although I successfully picked chinese locks with the front tensioning tool by using the movable part to turn the core and then turning back the front disc last with the tensioning part. Looking forward to new videos from you :)
But how does it fair against the ramset
It's always weird watching these old videos where he busts out the crap chinese disc picks.
So red loctite the threads and crazy glue the cover back on?
I have a tool deep enough to reach through the cover now. 😁
Oh nO! BTW - you and Bill provide a great service. You've dramatically changed the way I go about security on my Harley and my home and business.
I like
I wonder if they mention the plastic in the marketing material.😕✌
Try a melt attack on the New York lock
what in the hell kind of pick is that? how is it made?
I need a good disc brake lock for my motorcycle
Almost looks like the tailpiece is pressed onto the cylinder after it's assembled. Only way to disassemble may be destructive... 😕
As a motorcycle owner, I have no hope for any lock. I have watched a lot of your videos, and it seems you can pick any brake disc lock.
PsychoticBovine no disc brake locks for bikes offer any real sort of protection, just a deterrant. Multiple old school beefy padlocks with an Abloy Protec2 core, combined with a Pewag 12mm 62-63 rockwell hardness chain, or larger size by Pragmasis or similar should do the trick. Padlocks, Abus Granit 80mm, Squire 80mm, Sargent & Greenleaf 951 or Abus Rock 80mm. There are plenty of others but the chain would need to fit the padlock.🍺✌
Is all lock picking this easy?
Tiff Stead no he just makes it look easy
Oh yeah great video. Just show thieves and wanna be thieves what to use and how to use it. WE who use these things thank you very very much for putting our stuff at a higher risk.
Ramset this guy?
Kryptonite refused to watch this video. SMH...
Way to go DH. It would be a lawyer to show criminals out there how to pick this lock. Too bad the Kripto ACP doesnt sue you.
First! Yeah
Pointless video Nobody picks locks, battery powered angle grinder is the weapon of choice
He's funny... While there's no such thing as an "unpickable lock", This was definitely not "Quick", also no Bike thief is walking around with these tools. Conceptually ridiculous. Same concept as thinking burglars break into homes by picking the lock, they don't. They kick in the door, or break a window. You can feel free to utilize these locks. The thief will move into the bike with a simple Cable lock or thin U lock. Stop with this nonsense.