Been sick for the past week or so.. this video wasnt planned for today but was going to go up a week or so from now but I couldnt record any new video audio since ive been coughing like crazy, eitherway I hope ya enjoy the video guys and girls!.
Actually i think Samurott fits cherens color scheme perfectly as well as serperior for bianca. Also when you take into account which monkey you get Simipour just looks like a perfect fit for Bianca which she can only have when she starts with Snivy
i honestly think hilda should have the tepig. bw2s heroine makes sense for snivy but hilda in masters used a tepig and since he used masters as a point for some characters. also yeah i agree bianca always seemed good with tepig
Just wanted to add in Pokemon Masters Crystal has totodile, Lyra has Chikarita and Hilbert has Oshawott as their partner pokemon. In the adventures manga Brendan/Ruby gets mudkip
He does start off saying it is his opinion. Ultimately there is no such thing as a "true starter" as the games always give YOU the choice so yeah.. lol. It just comes down to what he think fits said character best. Edit- Like I know red technically started with bulbasaur but when I think of red... I think of charizard.
I think for Hilbert it’s Oshawott. To me it makes the most sense as Bianca gets Tepig and I can see Cheren with either Snivy or Oshawott. But mainly Snivy
Given the manga, Hilbert definitely has a Tepig. Nate (Or Lack-two as he is called in the manga) has a Dewott, which fits his personality and career way better than tepig.
@@farts8351 it makes perfect sense. At the beginning of black and white, professor Juniper gives you 3 Pokémon: the 3 starters. Cheren and Bianca come over, and you each get 1. So, all are taken. And we know that black and white and black 2 and white 2 aren’t happening at the same time because you can Cheren has moved to a gym leader in black 2 and white 2
It’s always been a big argument for which Kanto Starter is canon to Red’s character. Charmander makes sense thematically, it matched Red’s name with its color and Type, it’s the physically offensive Starter, and is the most popular, and it’s canon in Origins and Masters. However I’m in the Bulbasaur camp, as Red has Bulbasaur in the Adventures manga, Generations, and Let’s Go. It’s also #1 in the National Dex, and is featured as his starter in the original concept art for Gen. 1, and is just more interesting and cooler to me. And for his anime counterpart, Bulbasaur was the first Starter that Ash caught and was probably used the most in battle compared to Charizard and Squirtle.
I remember for years before ORAS's premiere, Swampert was considered not only Brendan's starter, but also his most iconic pokemon, as it was common among most of his variations, only a few of which showed Treeko or Torchic, but for some reason Brendan's appearances never give him a Blaziken, despite having the two others. I mean concept art and a few mangas give him Combukskin, but not Blaziken. Rip
The true starter for every protagonist is actually all of the starters. In every timeline the protagonist has a different starter. In some timelines of Johto, Ethan exists. In other timelines it’s Kris. Some timelines it’s Lyra! Or Red and Leaf, or Some timelines Red loses to Giovanni in Silph Co, in some timelines Red does not even know what a Pokédex is, and he never beat Team Rocket. Some timelines Mega Evolution Exsists. In some timelines in does not!
@@__Soya__ well yes and no Those are the two core ones But we know there are timelines where Archie flooded the earth or Lysander fires the weapon. We know that from Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon’s team Rainbow Rocket
@@gamersgamestorm8291 Yes but just because there are hundreds of timeliness doesnt mean there relevant. This video is discussing what's canon to the 2 MAIN CONTINUITYS every other timeline is irrelevant.
I've always taken pokemon Yellow as the canon one, so I think Resd's starter is a Pikachu and his team in most games is composed form: all Kanto starters, Espeon, Snorlax and Pikachu, and the only universe where Red could get all 3 starters is Yellow.
It’s unclear in the games if they’re the same but alternate versions of the same character but in most other media yellow is their own character. In the manga yellow actually gets reds pikachu at first and later returns it after an adventure. Also in regards to red not being able to get each starter he canonically sees/catches every Pokémon in red and blue so he has to have ways beyond what we play to catch Pokémon plus I’m sure the reigning champion would have ways of getting rare mons in the 3 years before he went to mt silver
Red canon choices is a Bulbassaur, there's a lot of Ken Sugimori's artwork from the 90s wich depict Red with a Bulbassaur and his rival, Green, with a Charmander or a Charizard And also it's a nice symbolism, Red's starter pokémon is one with a green color pattern, and Green starter pokémon is one with a red color pattern
Ruby uses a Swampert in the Pokemon Adventures manga . . . as an avid fan of it, I am offended that Sapphire was mentioned and Ruby wasn't. Emerald gets the Sceptile, but it was originally used by Wally.
I fknd it amusing that you are confused by X having both a Chesnaught and a Charizard since if you play the games you 100% understand why he has both and why Chespin is his starter. He gets the Charmander later in the games as a gift, remember?
You forgot Green/Leaf and also I feel like Hau would have Rowlet because that’s what he has in the anime and it matches him a lot, and Selene would have Popplio
I accidentally picked Rowlet for Selene I thought it was own by her and I also like Rowlet and it was good for my first Grand Trial because That Smeargle is a Bad Boy
Things to point out: Could have at least mentioned that Ash IS technically Red’s main anime counterpart and that his Starter is Pikachu and that his Strongest other Kanto Starter is Charmander but fine. It doesn’t matter in this point at whether Red will choose between Charmander, Bulbasaur, or Squirtle. I believe in the theory that Red will have his Pokemon traded to Blue/Green Oak AND Leaf/Green to get their Starter Pokemon. White didn’t get Serperior AS a Serperior immediately, she initially get it as a Servine first who then evolved it in under her ownership. Despite being a bit similar, it was established that Nate and Rosa aren’t counterparts of Hilbert and Hilda respectively due to the fact Black 2 & White 2 ARE sequels to Black and White in which they take place 2 years after the events of those previous games. First off, SPOILER ALERT to those who haven’t read the manga... Gigi, the Tepig that White took care of as an actress who did decided to go with N did Team-up with Whitley/Faitsu to put out the fire to save the Pokemon in N’s Castle BUUUT it hasn’t been confirmed in the end that Gigi decided to join Whitley/Faitsu officially OR that she is still with N.
If you want to argue wether or not Red choose Charmander or Bulbasaur then you shouldn't use the manga or even the let's go game. Wanna know why? Cus both of this is not canon at all. Listen ya'll, Pokemon adventures manga is not canon like EVER. Not only the plot of this manga diverged from the canon material which is the game so far to the point where the mangaka create his own version of character (Yellow and Emerald (Wally was robbed of becoming the main three of hoenn btw and being replaced by oc)) and even pokemon transformation that shouldn't even exist in the first place (Three headed legendary bird for example). Also the mangaka got all the protagonist personality wrong, he swapped Red and Blue personality and completely rewrite Ethan/Gold personality into a pervert PLUS rewrite Silver personality who is rude and broddy to practically everyone to this socially awkward boy, he also change Brendan/Ruby and May/Sapphire personality by making Brendan from a adventurous battler into a contest dreamer and May from graceful contester into a forest tarzan, (I'll skip the sinnoh region since i didn't really care that much about Lucas/Diamond, Barry/Pearl or even Dawn/Platinum in this manga) He rewrite Hilbert/Black personality who in game always serious into this goofy person and rewrite both Nate/Lack2 and Rosa/Whi2 backstory where's Lack2 was a unova police enforcer and Whi2 was a former member of team plasma plus also retconning their personality too. All of this manga protagonist was a far cry from their game counterpart, which strenghten my point of why the manga is still non canon until now. Speaking about the starter pokemon, the adventures manga also got a few protagonist's starter wrong. Brendan/Ruby should got treecko not mudkip as shown in the ORAS trailer (Which is game canon btw since it was released by gamefreak), Hilbert/Black should got oshawott and Hilda/White should got Tepig (most official promotional art shown Hilbert and Hilda with Oshawott and Tepig), Nate/Lack2 should got Tepig not oshawott and Rosa/Whi2 should got snivy not Foongus as shown in the Black2White2 trailer (Game canon again btw). Serena/Yvonne should got fennekin not froakie (Pokemon anime, generation and several official promotion art, game canon btw), Calem/Xavier is debatable since the game canon shown him with Chespin but many promotional art shown him with Froakie. So again the manga choice of starter pairings is poorly outdated by the game canon, so you should stop looking to the manga to to decide which starter that all pokemon protagonist choose. Let's go game itself also is not canon to the main pokemon timeline. Wanna know why? Cus in this version Red never disbanded team rocket AND still letting them roam free across the kanto region unlike his main counterpart who play a vital role in team rocket destruction be it from the classic timeline or the mega timeline. Threfore this Red is non canon and his choice of starter in here is non canon as well.
Charmander isnt the most present for red, Bulbasour is, *BULBASOUR AND RED MOMENTS:* -Pokemon Let's go -Pokemon Adventures Manga -Old boxart of Red and Green *CHARIMANDER AND RED MOMENTS:* -Pokemon Origins -Pokemon Masters *SQUIRTLE AND RED MOMENTS:* -Most likely being Red's Starter in Smash bros brawl, cause we can see him catching ivysour and charizard, but not seeing him catch squirtle. Bulbasour won 3:2:1. So bulbasour is most likely Red's True starter
I'd honestly go Bulbasaur for red, not just because of the manga, but in Let's Go he has Venasaur (with Blue having Charizard and Green Blastoise) and artwork of the three from Pokemon Red and Green have him with Venasaur with the same breakdown for the other two. Plus it represents growth better which is really what Red's journey is about, with Speed and Power fitting Blue better since he's always ahead of you throughout the journey.
@@plaguerim5608 Yeah but when people associate pokemon not everyone thinks of that concept art. Charizard is the most popular and I think the fact that the colors match also makes it more iconic. Plus Gary and Ash, as their anime counterparts, have Blastoise and Charizard respectively
@@michaelsarmiento4661 Red's creator, Ken sugimori, has always been pretty adamant about this: he starts with Bulbasaur. There is tons of artworks about this.
Where did Kris got the Totodile. Was it from Professor Elm's Lab or did she caught it elsewhere. The reason why I'm saying this was because Silver stole Totodile from Professor Elm's Lab and many adaptation shows that Silver's starter pokémon is Totodile. Now, who exactly got Totodile in Professor Elm's Lab: Kris or Silver.
In universes where Red has to pick between the 3 original starters (Such as Red and Blue, Fire Red and Leaf Green, the Manga, pokemon Masters, pokemon generations) red normally picks Charmander, sometimes Bulbasaur, but his CANON starter is Pikachu as pokemon Yellow is the Canon gen 1 storyline and in every single canon red appearance, his starter and ace is Pikachu. People who say pokemon yellow is just “based off the anime” dont understand that Ash is just the anime’s Red. Red and Blue were created for gameplay purposes such as customization and trading with no story line, while Yellow actually introduced story and a linear path to take. I do think gym leaders and blue keep their red and blue teams though, as Blue’s final eevee teams dont feel like him, and he wouldve probably immediately switched eevee out for his desire to create the ultimate champion team, Hence Red having his canon Yellow team in the sequels, yet Blue still having his classic Red and Blue team (Gyarados instead of his “blastoise” is canon).
The Pokemon games should have the protagonists actual names as the default me if you don't feel like naming the characters like Link from the Zelda games where you can name Link. I always wanted to know the names of every protagonist, I only knew the protagonists from gen 1-6, the protagonists from sun and moon, the let's go games, and swsh I can never remember there names. Another thing, Ethan will always be Gold to me because it's so awkward for him to be named Ethan when his rival is named Silver and his female counterpart is named Crystal, so the names for the trio just feels wrong, Silver, Crystal, and Ethan Gold is just so much better.
I think red's actual starter is balbasur because he is shown to have bulbasaur in pkmn generation,manga and in the early concept art for red and blue, red had a bulbasaur but in pkmn origins he had a charmander which in the end can mega evolve which means he chose a charmander in mega timeline
Nope, Red from Red,Blue,Green,Yellow are different then Red from Fire Red and Leaf Green. Og Red Choose Bulbasaur or Pikachu wether "Fire" Red Choose Charmander as his starter. Heck, we even have both Red and Leaf in the game cover representing Charizard (Red) and Venusaur (Leaf). Both of them are different version of Red, and the early art is intended towards OG Red, not "Fire" Red. Pokemon generation have Blue Oak choosing Blastoise as his starter lol. We all know Blue always pick the more superior type starter than Red in EVERY games (Except for Yellow), so it doesn't make sense for him to pick Squirtle if Red pick Bulbasaur. And when Red battle with Bulbasaur doesn't necessarily means that he pick the Bulbasaur in the beginning. He can just get it from somewhere else which we didn't know where (In Pokemon Yellow he got Bulbasaur from a child in Cerulean city). Pokemon generation is also heavily inspired be the Fire red and Leaf green remakes (Except for the part when Red travelling to 5 other region), so it still connected with "Fire" Red having Charmander as his starter. Manga only following the early generation art which is why Red doesn't have a brown hair, Leaf name is Blue/Green, Lyra doesn't exist and being overshadowed by Crys. If they following the remakes from the beginning then we will have Red choosing Charmander because the tittle wouldn't be called "Red Chapter" anymore but "Fire Red Chapter". Also if you take the promotional art into account, Ethan/Gold would have a totodile instead of Cyndaquil lol.
The very first episode is an homage to the manga. That's why we follow Pikachu so closely, because while Bulbasaur was the first Pokemon from Professor Oak (not the first actual Pokemon), Pikachu is the most iconic in relation to Manga Red.
My conclusions for the starters: Gen I: -Red: Whichever starter is on the box Gen II: -Ethan: Typhlosion (Multiple Media) -Kris: Feraligatr (Masters) Gen III (Here’s where it starts to get tricky): -Ruby & Sapphire: -Brendan: Sceptile (Multiple Media) -May: Blaziken (Anime, ORAS Trailer) -FireRed & LeafGreen: -Red: Charizard (Works with name, Masters, Origins) -Leaf: Venusaur (Works with name, Masters) -Emerald: -May (Seemingly de facto protagonist, save for Masters): Swampert (Masters, ORAS Trailer) Gen IV: -Diamond & Pearl: -Lucas: Infernape (BDSP Trailer, gives both Barry and Dawn their Masters starters) -Dawn: Empoleon (Anime, BDSP Trailer) -Platinum: -Dawn (Seemingly de facto protagonist, including Masters): Torterra (Masters, gives Barry his manga starter, Infernape, which fits well with his energetic personality) -HeartGold & SoulSilver: -Ethan: Typhlosion (Multiple Media) -Lyra: Meganium (Masters, technically manga) Gen V: -Black & White: -Hilbert: Samurott (Masters, designs match) -Hilda: Emboar (Masters, Figurines) -Black 2 & White 2: -Nate: Emboar (B2/W2 Animated Trailer) -Rosa: Serperior (Masters, B2/W2 Animated Trailer) Gen VI: -X & Y -Calem (Primary): Chesnaught (Generations, Manga) -Calem (Secondary): Mega Charizard X (Generations, Manga, Calem is more commonly associated with X than Y) -Serena (Primary): Delphox (Multiple Media) -Serena (Secondary): Mega Blastoise (Artwork, follows pattern with Calem) -Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire: -Brendan: Sceptile (Multiple Media) -May: Swampert (Masters, ORAS Trailer) Gen VII: -Sun & Moon: -Elio: Primarina (Masters) -Selene: Decidueye (Masters, Artwork) -UltraSun & UltraMoon: -Elio/Ray: Incineroar (Manga, Artwork) -Selene/Ailey: ??? (To Be Determined, I’d hazard a guess and say Primarina, but anything regarding just US/UM Selene is welcome) -Let’s Go, Pikachu! & Let’s Go, Eevee!: -Chase: Pikachu (Artwork, Box Art Cover) -Elaine: Eevee (Artwork, Box Art Cover) Gen VIII: -Sword & Shield: -Victor: Rillaboom (Manga) -Gloria: Inteleon (Masters) -Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl: -Lucas: Infernape (BDSP Trailer, gives both Barry and Dawn their Masters starters) -Dawn: Empoleon (Anime, BDSP Trailer) To clarify, I treat alternate versions of protagonists from similar games (R/S vs. E, D/P vs. Pt, and S/M vs. US/UM) as different, but very similar entities and universes, since there are elements that differ between them (like Steven vs. Wallace, the Sinnoh evolutions, and the entirety of the events surrounding Necrozma). As such, I’d say the possibility of receiving a different starter is fair game. This allows situations like May shown with both members of the Blaziken and Swampert line to be worked around into a fitting conclusion.
@@moboy3774On Pokemon Red/Fire Red logo is a Charizard, means that Red choosed Charmander, on Pokemon Blue logo is a Blastoise means that Blue choosed Squirtle, on Pokemon Leaf Green logo is a Venusaur, means that Green choosed a Bulbasaur
@@timgorg1919 the manga which the creator of Pokémon says is the most accurate depiction of his series (way more relevant than cover art for games) she gets squirtel red gets bulbasuar and blue gets charmander
I like to put Lucas with Chimchar because I definitely agree that Piplup goes to Dawn and Turtwig and Barry play off each other well with one being really fast and the other taking a slow pace.
I like to think that some of the girls also gets to be in the spotlight as the protagonist, so it's not purely a boy story, cuz that'd be so boring. Also, in my personal opinion, the protagonist's starter Pokemon is the one with a weakness toward the first gym as that makes it more interesting.
I mean the anime already does that.The anime loves giving the female rivals the spotlight while the male rivals are just set to the side so i feel like it it a fair balance.
I mean I think that the Red we see in Gold and Silver is from Yellow due to the fact he has all three and has a Pikachu and that’s his highest level, commonly the highest level Pokémon in the party is their ace or partner
But that might be his cannon starter in the original pokemon games but it can’t be in the new games because rby don’t connect with rse but frlg do connect with the Sevii islands
For me Red: Charmander Leaf: Bulbasaur Ethan: Cyndaquill Kris: Totodile Lyra: Chikorita Brendan: Treecko May: Torchic Lucas: Chimchar (Barry is mostly seen with Piplup) Dawn: Turtwig Hilbert: Oshawott Hilda: Tepig Nate: Tepig Rosa: Snivy Calem: Chespin (or Froakie, because Serena seems to be the canon protagonist of the games) Serena: Fennekin Elio: Litten (Hau is mostly seen with Rowlet) Selene: Popplio Victor: Sobble (Cause of Pokémon Evolutions) Gloria: Scorbunny (I am ready for a LOT of insults)
Well, Pokemon Masters is a Non-Canon Spinoff Game as shown by Leaf existing in the game despite Leaf not being canon anywhere else unless you count Green in LGPE. Red clearly has Bulbasaur as a starter 8 seperate things lead to that conclusion. 3 seperate things show that Hilbert has Tepig. As for the figures they do seem to be the best at showing what starter they got.
Arelious Manga is another Non-Canon spin-off that doesn’t mean anything. I think when was given the opportunity to game Freak tell the story of Red properly, It made Pokémon Origins and Red pick a Charmander! So, according Game Freak, Charmander is the real Red Starter!
Im gonna Argue that Pikachu is In Fact Red's Starter for Various Reasons in the Games, for some Key Reasons 1.) Red's Adventure must've taken Place in Yellow Because his Canon Team Consists of all 3 Kanto Starters, The Eevee from Celadon (which is now an espeon), One of The Snorlax, Presumably from East of Celadon, and His Starter, Pikachu. 2.) Piggybacking off of #1, Red Has all 3 Starters, Which Is (Legally) Impossible, and he could've traded with Blue for Another Starter But How'd he get The 3rd one, If you try and Take Another Starter from Oak at Any time, he'll tell you to not be greedy, and Locks you from the pokeball, but in Yellow? You can get all 3 easily. (For the Newbies: You Get Bulbasaur in Cerulean City In the House Next to the PokeCenter, but Pikachu must like you enough, which you can do after spamming Healing Items on it even after its at full HP You Get Charmander North Of Cerulean After Nugget Bridge, theres a Trainer if you go Northwest after the Bridge and a Trainer will give you it. For Squirtle, You Must Talk to The Officer Standing In Vermillion, Shes not hard to miss. Im pretty sure you have to beat Surge beforehand though.) 3.) Pikachu is Asscheeks, right? And Red Has one, Although Having Multiple Times to Evolve it, but why wouldn't he, because In Pokemon Yellow *You can't evolve your Starter* Also Red's Manga starter is actually Poliwag, he Gets Bulbasaur as a Gift from oak and his Pikachu after Catching it In Pewter. (And if were going off of The OG 3, Red's Mostly Seen with a Bulbasaur in Official Art Back Then and He's really only seen with a Charizard as Canon In EX and Smash Bros. Which aren't Canon at all.)
i wouldn't exactly call this credit since he bares what feels like such little respect for the material only having it as an afterthought without ever considering the finer details.
Sooo let me this out of the way. You can have your opinions. Aaaand I disagree with them, since my opinion is that I am going with the manga. You ALSO forgot Pokemon Protagonists, because in every Generation the protagonists get the names of the games, like Diamond(Turtwig as his starter) and Pearl(Chimchar as his starter) while Platinum gets the last starter after some mishaps in the manga. Since we are talking about the manga here, the Black 2 White 2 volumes 54-55 will be released at the end of April in Japan and we are still waiting for the rest of the world. As for Gen 5, the characters are supposed to be separated by 2 years apart from each other.
I think we should also consider Ash's starters pokemon caught in the anime. It makes sense since he's based on the male protagonist of each generation (especially on the clothes). So that would mean : Brendan : Treecko Lucas : Turtwig (Chimchar could also work, but Ash got it later and from Paul which kinda is his Rival in the anime instead of Barry). Kalem : Froakie Elio : Litten (Rowlet could also work, but since Hau has one, I think Litten makes more sense). In the other generations he either caught all 3 of them or neither of them, so they don't count.
Ok so I got a question about your gen 4 decision. Why not give Barry Infernape? It fits his personality well and Dawn and Lucas both have much more clear choices and the only one remaining is Infernape. It just seems weird to leave a starter out.
Have you read the "Golden Boy" manga? Ethan starter was actually Totodile. It may not fit him but I still love the manga, he is like Ash but a bit more skillful 🤗 Crystal real name is Kris
Scared tf outta me when you said "Blake" when talking about Nate's manga counterpart as Blake is my name. Coincidentally, Nate could be short for Nathaniel which is my middle name.
Red is a weird one, because he got retconned a lot. He has a Bulbasaur in the early Ken Sugimori art while the rival has a Charmander and the unnamed female trainer (that became Green in Pokemon Adventures) has a Squirtle. He wasn't even named in the manual of the first game. The name Red comes from the final battle on mount Silver in G/S/C and I'd argue that's his canon appearance: both the name and his highest level Pokemon, his starter Pikachu. It holds a Light Ball in HG/SS, an item you can get in Gen 2 only if you transfer your starter Pikachu from Yellow.
Red and Charmander (Origins and Masters with Masters not being made by Gamefreak) Red and Bulbasaur (promotional art and comics, manga, Pokemon Generation and Pokemon Let's Go)
Reds starter is bulbasaur because in lets go blue is using charizard and the rival always uses the type advantage (except Swo/Shi) and Red uses bulbasaur in the manga. Green uses squirtle.
@@mihirvirsingh5375 reds starter is bulbasaur it is a yin yang relationship because blues original name was green in Japan but switched to blue in america that explains why present day green owns a squirtle
Red uses Charizard Also you forgot Leaf which she uses Eevee Ethan uses Cyndaquil Kris uses Totodile Lyra uses Chikorita Brendan uses Treecko Hilbert uses Oshawott Hilda uses Tepig Rosa uses Snivy Calem surprisingly doesn’t use a starter in Pokémon Masters which is weird for me
By giving Calem Chespin, Shauna would have Greninja and post game she gives you an egg from her Starter So Calem would have Chesnaught, Charizard and Greninja if he has Chespin
Hilbert definitely has Tepig, he had it in the Adventures Manga, he had it in the Fire and Thunder Manga, and he had it in the B2W2 A New Legend Manga. The only times he had Oshawott was in the Meetings with the Legends manga.
These are what I believe the official starters are (keep in mind these are my opinion) Red- Charmander Gold- Cyndaquil ( even though I like totodile more) Brendan-Treecko May- Torchic Lukas- Chimchar Dawn- Piplup Hilbert- Oshowott (I like snivy more though) Hilda- honestly I’m not entirely sure Nate- Tepig Rosa- Snivy Calem- Either Chespin or Froakie Serena- Fennekin Elio- Litten Selene- Rowlet Victor- grookey Gloria- Scorbunny
I also prefer Totadile over Cyndaquil. I think Brendan's supposed to have Mudkip, while Calem is supposed to have Froakie. As for Red I see him as either having Bulbasaur or Charmander depending on the Universe, with Blue Oak getting the starter with the type advantage, & Green Leaf getting the starter weak to Red's. I agree with your choices for Gens 5 & 8 completely. Gen 4 is a complicated mess although Dawn gets Piplup.
off of just the manga Red:bulbasaur Blue:charmander Green:Squirtle Gold:cyndaquill Silver:totodile Kris:Chicorita Ruby:Mudkip Sapphire:Torchic Emerald:Treeco Diamond:Turtwig Pearl:Chimchar Platinum:Piplup Black:Tepig White:Snivy Nate:Oshawott Rosa:None X:Chespin/Charmander Y:Froakie Sun:littin Moon:Rowlet
Some of them are canon thanks to the Anime, the Manga, and the Masters game. But other are based on various fan arts. So here I am including the main characters from LGPE, PLA, and SV Red: Charmander Leaf: Bulbasaur Ethan: Cyndaquil Kris: Totodile Lyra: Chikorita Brendan: Treecko May: Torchic Lucas: Turtwig Dawn: Piplup Hilbert: Oshawott Hilda: Tepig Nate: Tepig Rosa: Snivy
For me it’s Red(charizard) Blue(Blastoise) Leaf/Green(Venusaur) Ethan(Typhlosion) Kris(feraligator) Lyra(Meganium) Silver(feraligator) Brendan(Sceptile) May(Blaziken and swampert due to the oras animated trailer) Lucas(infernape) Dawn(Torterra) Barry(Empoleon) Hilbert(samurott) Hilda(Emboar) Cheren(Serperior) Bianca(Emboar) Nate(Emboar) Rosa(serperior) Hugh(Samurott) Calem(greninja) Serena(Delphox) Shauna(Chesnaught) Elio(Primarina) Selene(Decidueye) Hau(Incineroar) Victor(Rillaboom) Gloria(Intellion) Hop(Cinderace) Also I know people are gonna say but red chose bulbasaur, Lucas chose turtwig Calem chose chespin,dawn chose piplup,hau chose rowlet, or Gloria chose scorbunny. But this is my opinion so don’t attack call me out on the choices I picked.
The Hoenn Protagonists LITERALLY WEAR HOMAGES to their starters. May’s bandana is the same design as Torchic’s head feathers. And Brendan’s hat resembles Mudkip’s spiked cheeks. No argument. Treecko was left at the lab.
@@Retsu_07 ok but I’m the games imagine if u battle him he would need a mega but how about he just use ash greninja I mean every make protagonist is a counterpart to ash
He also had a charizard in Generations so I'm guessing that's his mega and starters always have their normal ability when you choose them. Edit:I forgot that in the Manga he had a Mega Charizard X
@@Retsu_07 I know that’s his backup plan I believe red has charmander or bulbasaur but I prefer charmander, that Ethan has cydiquil bc he always has one in all of his counterparts, Brendan has treeko bc it’s week to Mays and is the most present one, Lucas has either chimchar or turtwig, Hilbert has oshowott bc Bianca has tepig in the anime Cherenkov has snivy in manga and Hilbert has a oshowott in masters, calem has either froakie or chespin, elio has litten, and victor has grookey.
For me Red’s true starter is Bulbasaur because I love the Adventures manga and because of early game drawing and sketches like that one with Blue and Green (um the trainers not the games) in a circle, Blue has Charmander and Green has squirtle
Early game drawings also depict Brendan primarily with the Torchic line and Ethan with the Tododile line. The former is least associated with that starter and the latter is almost always associated with Cyndaquil so i'd take them with a grain of salt. And manga isn't cannon. In Adventures their actual first pokemon isn't even a starter.
Charmander is my favourite starter but I hate when they try to fix red with Charizard due to its overrating, his starter is either bulbasaur or Pikachu,(origins red is hella boring, due to not enough screentime and Pokemon masters is a complete fan service)
Origins is still the closest adaption of the games we've ever had. The only thing that diverts from them is mega evolution but it doesn't divert anywhere near as much the main anime or mangas do.
What bothers me is that for SwSh, Hop's canon starter is Grookey(my opinion) and I would thank that Victor is a Single guy. But, because of the way that he chooses the type disadvantage, this isn't possible.
My headcanon: Gen 1 - Venusaur, according to Adventures and Pokémon Generations. Bulbasaur is also the first pokémon of the entire pokedex Gen 2 - Typhlosion, out of every starter, is the one that fits with Ethan the most :P Gen 3 - Sceptile, according to Generations. Is also strong against both Team Aqua's Water Types and Magma's Ground Types Gen 4 - Empoleon, according to Adventures, considering Dawn the protag Gen 5, 1 - Samurott, according to Masters. Also, Snivy and Tepig aesthetically fit with Cheren and Bianca Gen 5, 2 - Serperior, according to Masters and the Promo Trailer Gen 6 - Hard to say, Greninja or Chesnaught if you consider the male Gen 7 - Decidueye, because i don't like the other two as much :P, Incineroar is also perfect for Professor Kukui Gen 8 - Cinderace, Aesthetically fits with Gloria
Hop probably gonna have Sobble. Marnie has Morpeko given to her first and Bede I am torn between Solosis the first Pokemon he was seen with or the Hattena but it seems odd for his starter to be a Gigantamax Pokemon
Venusaur is actually Red’s most present Kanto starter. In the mainline games Venusaur is the only one of the Kanto starters he has had on every team, with let’s go confirming it was his Starter Pokemon. Spin off media like masters, origins, zensho and evolutions (which is weird cos it’s a short based on let’s go where he uses vensusur) show him with Charizard, whilst the main series games, adventures manga, generations, tcg, and original artwork all present Red with Venusaur. I gotta disagree with Reds starter being Charizard, as the games directly counter this fact. Venusaur is canonically his starter.
I don't fully agree with the list in this video, and feel like some agree with me. I would follow the manga. So if I was gonna make a list I would change these: Red has Bulbasaur Ruby has Mudkip Black-2 has Oshawott And I kinda don't agree with the series when they made Sword have Grookey. I thought he would have Sobble
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Been sick for the past week or so.. this video wasnt planned for today but was going to go up a week or so from now but I couldnt record any new video audio since ive been coughing like crazy, eitherway I hope ya enjoy the video guys and girls!.
I know where you went with Red, but in Let's GO Pikachu he uses a Venusaur
That isnt enough of a reason for it to be his true starter...
@@RuffledRowlit Ok. I get you. I recently started reading Pokemon Festival of Champions and Red's Charizard rocks
@@RuffledRowlit By the way, are you planning on doing a True team video? Please include the orphan Cubone in Red's team
@@guilhermefranco2930 NO
Hilbert makes way more sense if he had Samurott because Cheren is perfect for Snivy and Bianca and Hilda with Tepig
Actually i think Samurott fits cherens color scheme perfectly as well as serperior for bianca. Also when you take into account which monkey you get Simipour just looks like a perfect fit for Bianca which she can only have when she starts with Snivy
i honestly think hilda should have the tepig. bw2s heroine makes sense for snivy but hilda in masters used a tepig and since he used masters as a point for some characters. also yeah i agree bianca always seemed good with tepig
He shouldn't have tepig cuz Nate has tepig
And if they both of tepig then it'll be weird
Hilbert should have snivy
Bianca already has a fire-type on her team
he is right the ture starter is in pokemon masters
Just wanted to add in Pokemon Masters Crystal has totodile, Lyra has Chikarita and Hilbert has Oshawott as their partner pokemon. In the adventures manga Brendan/Ruby gets mudkip
Yeah, I'm not sure how he's picking these when he uses Masters in some cases and not in others.
He does start off saying it is his opinion. Ultimately there is no such thing as a "true starter" as the games always give YOU the choice so yeah.. lol. It just comes down to what he think fits said character best. Edit- Like I know red technically started with bulbasaur but when I think of red... I think of charizard.
Neptune still though you think he’d bring up Masters for everyone not just half of the characters, seems inconsistent
@@prophetlord6562 Masters doesn't even give Calem a starter though. He gets meowstic and I assume Serena will get the female meowstic.
Get this dude i pulled the luckiest PKMN Master Character....Red With jus one fucking draw/pull
The lack of water types hurts my soul
I'd give the Oshawott line to Hilbert and the Tododile line to Kris based on Masters.
Lots of rivals have water and Hilberts true starter is oshawott
Game Freak is stabing me because my favourite type is water
Same
Don’t worry, the rivals mostly have them.
I’d say:
Hilbert: Oshawott
Hilda:Tepig
Nate: Tepig
Rosa: Snivy
I WILL AGREE
Incredibly agreed (is that proper english?)
i think hilda should have a oshawott
Cannon team can you see in pokemon ex android.
I can say that Nate would be more likely Oshawatt.
I think for Hilbert it’s Oshawott. To me it makes the most sense as Bianca gets Tepig and I can see Cheren with either Snivy or Oshawott. But mainly Snivy
No I think he has snivy bc we all know Nate has tepig so it wouldn't make sense for both to have tepig even tho tepig is the best unova starter
NoobAsian no
Given the manga, Hilbert definitely has a Tepig. Nate (Or Lack-two as he is called in the manga) has a Dewott, which fits his personality and career way better than tepig.
Since pokemon masters is canon, oshawott is hilbert's pokemon there
@@farts8351 it makes perfect sense. At the beginning of black and white, professor Juniper gives you 3 Pokémon: the 3 starters. Cheren and Bianca come over, and you each get 1. So, all are taken. And we know that black and white and black 2 and white 2 aren’t happening at the same time because you can Cheren has moved to a gym leader in black 2 and white 2
It’s always been a big argument for which Kanto Starter is canon to Red’s character. Charmander makes sense thematically, it matched Red’s name with its color and Type, it’s the physically offensive Starter, and is the most popular, and it’s canon in Origins and Masters. However I’m in the Bulbasaur camp, as Red has Bulbasaur in the Adventures manga, Generations, and Let’s Go. It’s also #1 in the National Dex, and is featured as his starter in the original concept art for Gen. 1, and is just more interesting and cooler to me. And for his anime counterpart, Bulbasaur was the first Starter that Ash caught and was probably used the most in battle compared to Charizard and Squirtle.
It's Pikachu. Pokemom Yellow.
@@__Soya__hmm let's say a event occured where he got all three through insane journey
@@ohhellwhereami2574 What?
These moving pictures are the weirdest things to me
Yeah
I remember for years before ORAS's premiere, Swampert was considered not only Brendan's starter, but also his most iconic pokemon, as it was common among most of his variations, only a few of which showed Treeko or Torchic, but for some reason Brendan's appearances never give him a Blaziken, despite having the two others. I mean concept art and a few mangas give him Combukskin, but not Blaziken.
Rip
The true starter for every protagonist is actually all of the starters. In every timeline the protagonist has a different starter. In some timelines of Johto, Ethan exists. In other timelines it’s Kris. Some timelines it’s Lyra! Or Red and Leaf, or Some timelines Red loses to Giovanni in Silph Co, in some timelines Red does not even know what a Pokédex is, and he never beat Team Rocket. Some timelines Mega Evolution Exsists. In some timelines in does not!
That's just stupid. There's only 2 actual timelines. The OG timeline and the Mega timeline.
@@__Soya__ well yes and no
Those are the two core ones
But we know there are timelines where Archie flooded the earth or Lysander fires the weapon. We know that from Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon’s team Rainbow Rocket
@@gamersgamestorm8291 Yes but just because there are hundreds of timeliness doesnt mean there relevant. This video is discussing what's canon to the 2 MAIN CONTINUITYS every other timeline is irrelevant.
@@gamersgamestorm8291 Also just realized that the machine AZ created made two different MULTIVERSUSES not two different universes.
@@__Soya__ yeh
The Rainbow Rocket guys all come from the Mega Multiverse instead of the Non-Mega Multiverse
I've always taken pokemon Yellow as the canon one, so I think Resd's starter is a Pikachu and his team in most games is composed form: all Kanto starters, Espeon, Snorlax and Pikachu, and the only universe where Red could get all 3 starters is Yellow.
It’s unclear in the games if they’re the same but alternate versions of the same character but in most other media yellow is their own character. In the manga yellow actually gets reds pikachu at first and later returns it after an adventure. Also in regards to red not being able to get each starter he canonically sees/catches every Pokémon in red and blue so he has to have ways beyond what we play to catch Pokémon plus I’m sure the reigning champion would have ways of getting rare mons in the 3 years before he went to mt silver
@Violet City Same It makes logical sense
@@jebbryant6522 red completes pokedex only in origins so can't say same about games
if you put lets go in the timeline, red couldve caught all starters even if he had to choose one.
@@jebbryant6522 "in most other media yellow is their own character"
Literally only in one media is "Yellow" a character and its a girl.
Hilda was given a fully evolved serperior so snivy is her starter? That's some next level mental gymnastics.
The funny thing is that I've picked the "true" starters of the male protagonists every time
Me too
KordenLP so do I except for the x and y because he was wearing greninja colors so it had to be him
Nice
Also Picked Charmander And Cyndaquil For Canonical Reasons
Red-Polywag
Blue-Scyther
Green-Jigglypuff
isnt the first time we met blue in the manga was in the forest where he tries to catch mew with a charmander?
I actually think (Includes Rivals)
Red(Masters timeline): Charmander
Blue(Masters timeline): Squirtle
Leaf(Masters timeline): Bulbasaur
Red(Canon/Yellow timeline):Pikachu
Blue(Canon/Yellow timeline):Eevee
Red(Let’s Go! Timeline): Bulbasaur
Blue(Let’s Go! Timeline): Charmander
Green(Let’s Go! Timeline): Squirtle
Ethan: Cyndaquil
Lyra: Chikorita
Kris: Totodile
Silver: Totodile
Brendan: Treecko
May(Rival): Torchic
May: Torchic
Brendan(Rival): Mudkip
Wally: None (Ralts)
Lucas: Turtwig
Dawn: Chimchar
Barry: Piplup
Hilbert: Oshawott
Hilda: Tepig
Cheren: Snivy
Bianca: Tepig
Nate: Tepig
Rosa: Snivy
Hugh: Oshawott
Calem: Froakie (Kanto:Charmander)
Serena(Rival): Fennekin
Serena: Fennekin (Kanto:Bulbasaur)
Calem(Rival): Chespin
Shauna: Bulbasaur
Tierno: Squirtle
Trevor: Charmander
Elio: Litten
Selene: Popplio
Hau: Rowlet
Gladion: Eevee
Victor: Scorbunny
Gloria: Sobble
Hop: Grookey
Oh so you mean animé Brendan was a rival.
@Ethan Kellerman I wish Brendan was a rival for Ash, cauz he got NONE OF THAT in the entire arc.
being someone who read the manga, the ones from kanto up to unova hurt my eyes
I agree with all of that
Why Dawn with Chimchar?
No mention of Hilda having Tepig and Hilbert having Oshawott in Pokemon Masters?
Hilda even has a figurine with Tepig so I’m thinking they’re pointing more toward that at least nowadays.
@@andrewli6606 And she has one in Pokemon Evolutions.
I think for Red. The situation is that he was supposedly to have Bulbasaur. But due to popularity Red was retconned to have Charmander.
Charizard blastoise venusaur swampert blaziken and sceptile rocks along with the other starters too.
He canonically had Pikachu as his starter
@@__Soya__ in Yellow
Yellow is canon to the main continuity the others don’t matter@@gordonschnick12
@@__Soya__ Nah Blue’s teams in later games don’t match up to his yellow team so it doesn’t really fit into canon
Red canon choices is a Bulbassaur, there's a lot of Ken Sugimori's artwork from the 90s wich depict Red with a Bulbassaur and his rival, Green, with a Charmander or a Charizard
And also it's a nice symbolism, Red's starter pokémon is one with a green color pattern, and Green starter pokémon is one with a red color pattern
His canon starter is Pikachu
@@__Soya__ i know i Am late but it is not pikachu i think that you Think that pokemon yellow is cannon
@@ElisandroTorres-iw7jt Pokemon yellow being canon makes the most sense. In pokemon yellow you are gifted every single member of Reds team.
@__Soya__ it's been said that red has all 3 starters because he got the other two from his rival and the female trainer
@@redgraves4030 That has never been said in the games. Like ever.
Ruby uses a Swampert in the Pokemon Adventures manga . . . as an avid fan of it, I am offended that Sapphire was mentioned and Ruby wasn't. Emerald gets the Sceptile, but it was originally used by Wally.
Yes I agree
I’ve always taken the manga as the real canon
Same
Yup the manga is how pkmn is supposed b and that red true starter is bulbasaur not charmander
Same
@Skurk It's not that, It's just there's separate canons.
same
I fknd it amusing that you are confused by X having both a Chesnaught and a Charizard since if you play the games you 100% understand why he has both and why Chespin is his starter. He gets the Charmander later in the games as a gift, remember?
You forgot Green/Leaf and also I feel like Hau would have Rowlet because that’s what he has in the anime and it matches him a lot, and Selene would have Popplio
Psychic Girafarig anime isn’t cannon
meltan animations he mentioned the anime in this video.
I accidentally picked Rowlet for Selene I thought it was own by her and I also like Rowlet and it was good for my first Grand Trial because That Smeargle is a Bad Boy
@@meltyanimations2672 Neither is Masters, the Manga etc but we'll use them to come to a conclusion.
Red's starter pokemon being pikachu makes sense. Honestly in the games.
Things to point out:
Could have at least mentioned that Ash IS technically Red’s main anime counterpart and that his Starter is Pikachu and that his Strongest other Kanto Starter is Charmander but fine.
It doesn’t matter in this point at whether Red will choose between Charmander, Bulbasaur, or Squirtle. I believe in the theory that Red will have his Pokemon traded to Blue/Green Oak AND Leaf/Green to get their Starter Pokemon.
White didn’t get Serperior AS a Serperior immediately, she initially get it as a Servine first who then evolved it in under her ownership.
Despite being a bit similar, it was established that Nate and Rosa aren’t counterparts of Hilbert and Hilda respectively due to the fact Black 2 & White 2 ARE sequels to Black and White in which they take place 2 years after the events of those previous games.
First off, SPOILER ALERT to those who haven’t read the manga...
Gigi, the Tepig that White took care of as an actress who did decided to go with N did Team-up with Whitley/Faitsu to put out the fire to save the Pokemon in N’s Castle BUUUT it hasn’t been confirmed in the end that Gigi decided to join Whitley/Faitsu officially OR that she is still with N.
If you want to argue wether or not Red choose Charmander or Bulbasaur then you shouldn't use the manga or even the let's go game. Wanna know why? Cus both of this is not canon at all. Listen ya'll, Pokemon adventures manga is not canon like EVER. Not only the plot of this manga diverged from the canon material which is the game so far to the point where the mangaka create his own version of character (Yellow and Emerald (Wally was robbed of becoming the main three of hoenn btw and being replaced by oc)) and even pokemon transformation that shouldn't even exist in the first place (Three headed legendary bird for example). Also the mangaka got all the protagonist personality wrong, he swapped Red and Blue personality and completely rewrite Ethan/Gold personality into a pervert PLUS rewrite Silver personality who is rude and broddy to practically everyone to this socially awkward boy, he also change Brendan/Ruby and May/Sapphire personality by making Brendan from a adventurous battler into a contest dreamer and May from graceful contester into a forest tarzan, (I'll skip the sinnoh region since i didn't really care that much about Lucas/Diamond, Barry/Pearl or even Dawn/Platinum in this manga) He rewrite Hilbert/Black personality who in game always serious into this goofy person and rewrite both Nate/Lack2 and Rosa/Whi2 backstory where's Lack2 was a unova police enforcer and Whi2 was a former member of team plasma plus also retconning their personality too. All of this manga protagonist was a far cry from their game counterpart, which strenghten my point of why the manga is still non canon until now.
Speaking about the starter pokemon, the adventures manga also got a few protagonist's starter wrong. Brendan/Ruby should got treecko not mudkip as shown in the ORAS trailer (Which is game canon btw since it was released by gamefreak), Hilbert/Black should got oshawott and Hilda/White should got Tepig (most official promotional art shown Hilbert and Hilda with Oshawott and Tepig), Nate/Lack2 should got Tepig not oshawott and Rosa/Whi2 should got snivy not Foongus as shown in the Black2White2 trailer (Game canon again btw). Serena/Yvonne should got fennekin not froakie (Pokemon anime, generation and several official promotion art, game canon btw), Calem/Xavier is debatable since the game canon shown him with Chespin but many promotional art shown him with Froakie. So again the manga choice of starter pairings is poorly outdated by the game canon, so you should stop looking to the manga to to decide which starter that all pokemon protagonist choose.
Let's go game itself also is not canon to the main pokemon timeline. Wanna know why? Cus in this version Red never disbanded team rocket AND still letting them roam free across the kanto region unlike his main counterpart who play a vital role in team rocket destruction be it from the classic timeline or the mega timeline. Threfore this Red is non canon and his choice of starter in here is non canon as well.
@@hiranoalfairus1174It's canon its just not the same continuity. There's a difference.
Charmander isnt the most present for red, Bulbasour is,
*BULBASOUR AND RED MOMENTS:*
-Pokemon Let's go
-Pokemon Adventures Manga
-Old boxart of Red and Green
*CHARIMANDER AND RED MOMENTS:*
-Pokemon Origins
-Pokemon Masters
*SQUIRTLE AND RED MOMENTS:*
-Most likely being Red's Starter in Smash bros brawl, cause we can see him catching ivysour and charizard, but not seeing him catch squirtle.
Bulbasour won 3:2:1.
So bulbasour is most likely Red's True starter
4:28 his manga counterpart Ruby also had a Swampert
I'd honestly go Bulbasaur for red, not just because of the manga, but in Let's Go he has Venasaur (with Blue having Charizard and Green Blastoise) and artwork of the three from Pokemon Red and Green have him with Venasaur with the same breakdown for the other two. Plus it represents growth better which is really what Red's journey is about, with Speed and Power fitting Blue better since he's always ahead of you throughout the journey.
AussieDragoon it’s because of the manga
nah, one of the main iconic pokemon of Red is Charizard
@@Usario321 iconic does not mean that is right
@@Usario321 Nope, in the main concept art, Blue was always shown to have a Charizard, Red a Venusaur and Green a Blastoise.
@@plaguerim5608 Yeah but when people associate pokemon not everyone thinks of that concept art. Charizard is the most popular and I think the fact that the colors match also makes it more iconic. Plus Gary and Ash, as their anime counterparts, have Blastoise and Charizard respectively
You forgot that Ruby (Manga Brendon) uses a Mudkip. Great video tho!
Brendan
I personally think that Red's starter is Bulbasaur because of Pokemon Generations, Let's Go, promotional material for Generation One, and the Manga.
Correct
I agree with this.
True
Wrong. Curse you, Pokemon Generation for making Red choose Bulbasaur for a starter.
@@michaelsarmiento4661 Red's creator, Ken sugimori, has always been pretty adamant about this: he starts with Bulbasaur.
There is tons of artworks about this.
In Masters, Kris chooses a Totodile while Lyra chooses Chikorita.
Where did Kris got the Totodile. Was it from Professor Elm's Lab or did she caught it elsewhere. The reason why I'm saying this was because Silver stole Totodile from Professor Elm's Lab and many adaptation shows that Silver's starter pokémon is Totodile. Now, who exactly got Totodile in Professor Elm's Lab: Kris or Silver.
@@michaelsarmiento4661 Since Silver is Ethans rival in Masters, he did.
Not made by Gamefreak.
In universes where Red has to pick between the 3 original starters (Such as Red and Blue, Fire Red and Leaf Green, the Manga, pokemon Masters, pokemon generations) red normally picks Charmander, sometimes Bulbasaur, but his CANON starter is Pikachu as pokemon Yellow is the Canon gen 1 storyline and in every single canon red appearance, his starter and ace is Pikachu. People who say pokemon yellow is just “based off the anime” dont understand that Ash is just the anime’s Red. Red and Blue were created for gameplay purposes such as customization and trading with no story line, while Yellow actually introduced story and a linear path to take. I do think gym leaders and blue keep their red and blue teams though, as Blue’s final eevee teams dont feel like him, and he wouldve probably immediately switched eevee out for his desire to create the ultimate champion team, Hence Red having his canon Yellow team in the sequels, yet Blue still having his classic Red and Blue team (Gyarados instead of his “blastoise” is canon).
The Pokemon games should have the protagonists actual names as the default me if you don't feel like naming the characters like Link from the Zelda games where you can name Link. I always wanted to know the names of every protagonist, I only knew the protagonists from gen 1-6, the protagonists from sun and moon, the let's go games, and swsh I can never remember there names. Another thing, Ethan will always be Gold to me because it's so awkward for him to be named Ethan when his rival is named Silver and his female counterpart is named Crystal, so the names for the trio just feels wrong, Silver, Crystal, and Ethan Gold is just so much better.
Yes I agree with the last part, but I like how you can chose your own name
True starters of the protagonists in my opinion are
Red - Charizard
Leaf - Venusaur
Ethan - Typhlosion
Kris - Feraligatr
Lyra - Meganium
Brendan - Sceptile
May - Blaziken
Lucas- Torterra
Dawn - Empoleon
Hilbert - Samurott
Hilda - Emboar
Nate - Emboar
Rosa - Serperior
Calem - Chesnaught
Serena - Delphox
Elio - Incineroar
Selene- Decidueye
Chase - Pikachu
Elaine - Eevee
Victor- Rillaboom
Gloria - Cinderance
Rei - Oshawott
Akari - Rowlet
I think red's actual starter is balbasur because he is shown to have bulbasaur in pkmn generation,manga and in the early concept art for red and blue, red had a bulbasaur but in pkmn origins he had a charmander which in the end can mega evolve which means he chose a charmander in mega timeline
Nope, Red from Red,Blue,Green,Yellow are different then Red from Fire Red and Leaf Green.
Og Red Choose Bulbasaur or Pikachu wether "Fire" Red Choose Charmander as his starter. Heck, we even have both Red and Leaf in the game cover representing Charizard (Red) and Venusaur (Leaf). Both of them are different version of Red, and the early art is intended towards OG Red, not "Fire" Red.
Pokemon generation have Blue Oak choosing Blastoise as his starter lol. We all know Blue always pick the more superior type starter than Red in EVERY games (Except for Yellow), so it doesn't make sense for him to pick Squirtle if Red pick Bulbasaur. And when Red battle with Bulbasaur doesn't necessarily means that he pick the Bulbasaur in the beginning. He can just get it from somewhere else which we didn't know where (In Pokemon Yellow he got Bulbasaur from a child in Cerulean city). Pokemon generation is also heavily inspired be the Fire red and Leaf green remakes (Except for the part when Red travelling to 5 other region), so it still connected with "Fire" Red having Charmander as his starter.
Manga only following the early generation art which is why Red doesn't have a brown hair, Leaf name is Blue/Green, Lyra doesn't exist and being overshadowed by Crys. If they following the remakes from the beginning then we will have Red choosing Charmander because the tittle wouldn't be called "Red Chapter" anymore but "Fire Red Chapter".
Also if you take the promotional art into account, Ethan/Gold would have a totodile instead of Cyndaquil lol.
The very first episode is an homage to the manga. That's why we follow Pikachu so closely, because while Bulbasaur was the first Pokemon from Professor Oak (not the first actual Pokemon), Pikachu is the most iconic in relation to Manga Red.
@@nxlegend7526yellow is game timeline (i think)
Blue has Blastoise in Generations which contradicts Red having a Bulbasaur.
@@nxlegend7526 This is a joke, right?
My conclusions for the starters:
Gen I:
-Red: Whichever starter is on the box
Gen II:
-Ethan: Typhlosion (Multiple Media)
-Kris: Feraligatr (Masters)
Gen III (Here’s where it starts to get tricky):
-Ruby & Sapphire:
-Brendan: Sceptile (Multiple Media)
-May: Blaziken (Anime, ORAS Trailer)
-FireRed & LeafGreen:
-Red: Charizard (Works with name, Masters, Origins)
-Leaf: Venusaur (Works with name, Masters)
-Emerald:
-May (Seemingly de facto protagonist, save for Masters): Swampert (Masters, ORAS Trailer)
Gen IV:
-Diamond & Pearl:
-Lucas: Infernape (BDSP Trailer, gives both Barry and Dawn their Masters starters)
-Dawn: Empoleon (Anime, BDSP Trailer)
-Platinum:
-Dawn (Seemingly de facto protagonist, including Masters): Torterra (Masters, gives Barry his manga starter, Infernape, which fits well with his energetic personality)
-HeartGold & SoulSilver:
-Ethan: Typhlosion (Multiple Media)
-Lyra: Meganium (Masters, technically manga)
Gen V:
-Black & White:
-Hilbert: Samurott (Masters, designs match)
-Hilda: Emboar (Masters, Figurines)
-Black 2 & White 2:
-Nate: Emboar (B2/W2 Animated Trailer)
-Rosa: Serperior (Masters, B2/W2 Animated Trailer)
Gen VI:
-X & Y
-Calem (Primary): Chesnaught (Generations, Manga)
-Calem (Secondary): Mega Charizard X (Generations, Manga, Calem is more commonly associated with X than Y)
-Serena (Primary): Delphox (Multiple Media)
-Serena (Secondary): Mega Blastoise (Artwork, follows pattern with Calem)
-Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire:
-Brendan: Sceptile (Multiple Media)
-May: Swampert (Masters, ORAS Trailer)
Gen VII:
-Sun & Moon:
-Elio: Primarina (Masters)
-Selene: Decidueye (Masters, Artwork)
-UltraSun & UltraMoon:
-Elio/Ray: Incineroar (Manga, Artwork)
-Selene/Ailey: ??? (To Be Determined, I’d hazard a guess and say Primarina, but anything regarding just US/UM Selene is welcome)
-Let’s Go, Pikachu! & Let’s Go, Eevee!:
-Chase: Pikachu (Artwork, Box Art Cover)
-Elaine: Eevee (Artwork, Box Art Cover)
Gen VIII:
-Sword & Shield:
-Victor: Rillaboom (Manga)
-Gloria: Inteleon (Masters)
-Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl:
-Lucas: Infernape (BDSP Trailer, gives both Barry and Dawn their Masters starters)
-Dawn: Empoleon (Anime, BDSP Trailer)
To clarify, I treat alternate versions of protagonists from similar games (R/S vs. E, D/P vs. Pt, and S/M vs. US/UM) as different, but very similar entities and universes, since there are elements that differ between them (like Steven vs. Wallace, the Sinnoh evolutions, and the entirety of the events surrounding Necrozma). As such, I’d say the possibility of receiving a different starter is fair game. This allows situations like May shown with both members of the Blaziken and Swampert line to be worked around into a fitting conclusion.
How could you forget Leaf/Green, the female counterpart of Red??
She would choose Bulbasaur
@@timgorg1919 I would say Squirtle but sure
@@moboy3774On Pokemon Red/Fire Red logo is a Charizard, means that Red choosed Charmander, on Pokemon Blue logo is a Blastoise means that Blue choosed Squirtle, on Pokemon Leaf Green logo is a Venusaur, means that Green choosed a Bulbasaur
@@timgorg1919 the manga which the creator of Pokémon says is the most accurate depiction of his series (way more relevant than cover art for games) she gets squirtel red gets bulbasuar and blue gets charmander
@@timgorg1919 That would have weight if the OG games weren't Red and Green.
I like to put Lucas with Chimchar because I definitely agree that Piplup goes to Dawn and Turtwig and Barry play off each other well with one being really fast and the other taking a slow pace.
Everybody knows that Blake is pronounced "Black-ay"
U mean baaalaaakayy
From key and peele lol
Dee nice and Jay Quellin'.
His name is Nate
Blake is the manga name
I like to think that some of the girls also gets to be in the spotlight as the protagonist, so it's not purely a boy story, cuz that'd be so boring.
Also, in my personal opinion, the protagonist's starter Pokemon is the one with a weakness toward the first gym as that makes it more interesting.
Gen 1- Red
Gen 2- Gold
Gen 3- Brenden and May is your rival
Gen 4- Dawn
Then after that it gets kinda fuzzy
I mean the anime already does that.The anime loves giving the female rivals the spotlight while the male rivals are just set to the side so i feel like it it a fair balance.
@@spinozilla4555 i read from someone else that mangas arent cannon, so i wouldnt believe much in them
In Pokemon evolution Hilda is the protagonist
@@__Soya__until you get to alola where Hau is your rival then in Galar it’s Hop then in Paldea it’s Nemona
I mean I think that the Red we see in Gold and Silver is from Yellow due to the fact he has all three and has a Pikachu and that’s his highest level, commonly the highest level Pokémon in the party is their ace or partner
Though that Pikachu won't be the same one that he had from Yellow. In GSC, his Pikachu knows Charm which it would have learned as a Pichu.
Matthew Schlotterbeck or move reminder, I think that was around in Gen 2
But that might be his cannon starter in the original pokemon games but it can’t be in the new games because rby don’t connect with rse but frlg do connect with the Sevii islands
I don’t think someone throws out their partner in the beginning of the match
@@yoshithebear7630if pikachu wants to battle what's problem
Where is leaf from firered and leafgreen
nowhere...but hey, venusaur fits her like a glove in HER game.
Totally glossed over here.
In the manga blastoise is her main pokemon
I always see her as a Venusaur user. It’s the only one remaining after all.
@@Kaempfdog (Assuming Red got Charmander)
Seeing the characters sway and move makes me very uncomfortable
Glad I am not the only one who feels the same
Why tho?
For me
Red: Charmander
Leaf: Bulbasaur
Ethan: Cyndaquill
Kris: Totodile
Lyra: Chikorita
Brendan: Treecko
May: Torchic
Lucas: Chimchar (Barry is mostly seen with Piplup)
Dawn: Turtwig
Hilbert: Oshawott
Hilda: Tepig
Nate: Tepig
Rosa: Snivy
Calem: Chespin (or Froakie, because Serena seems to be the canon protagonist of the games)
Serena: Fennekin
Elio: Litten (Hau is mostly seen with Rowlet)
Selene: Popplio
Victor: Sobble (Cause of Pokémon Evolutions)
Gloria: Scorbunny
(I am ready for a LOT of insults)
The Starters for Me 👇
Red: Charizard
Blue: Blastoise
Leaf: Blastoise / Venusaur
Ethan: Thyplosion
Kris: Feraligatr
Lyra: Meganium
Silver: Feraligatr
Brendan: Sceptile
May: Blaziken
Wally: Gallade
Lucas: Torterra
Dawn: Empoleon
Barry: Empoleon
Hilbert: Samurott
Hilda: Emboar
Cheren: Stoutland / Serperior
Bianca: Emboar
Nate: Emboar
Rosa: Serperior
Hugh: Samurott
Calem: Chesnaught
Serena: Delphox
Shauna: Greninja
Tierno: Blastoise
Trevor: Charizard
Elio: Primarina
Selene: Decidueye
Hau: Decidueye
Gladion: Silvally
Victor: Inteleon
Gloria: Cinderace
Hop: Dubwool
Marnie: Morpeko
Bede: Hatterene
Avery: Slowbro
Klara: Slowbro
@@Edrian_is_Sincere I agree
@@Edrian_is_Sincere c’mon!! This is perfect!! Couldn’t agree more
@@datrell006 Yeah! Did you agree with my opinion?
@@-FUN-08 yes i did ! It was legit perfect in my eyes
I think you Need to take more in consideration Pokemon Master and the Kotobukiya Figure line
Well, Pokemon Masters is a Non-Canon Spinoff Game as shown by Leaf existing in the game despite Leaf not being canon anywhere else unless you count Green in LGPE.
Red clearly has Bulbasaur as a starter 8 seperate things lead to that conclusion.
3 seperate things show that Hilbert has Tepig.
As for the figures they do seem to be the best at showing what starter they got.
Arelious Manga is another Non-Canon spin-off that doesn’t mean anything.
I think when was given the opportunity to game Freak tell the story of Red properly, It made Pokémon Origins and Red pick a Charmander!
So, according Game Freak, Charmander is the real Red Starter!
@@pedromonteiro2248 I agree with that. Red's starter pokemon is Charmander.
Although the game was made by the creators of pokemon the story is not canon but starter his canon
Im gonna Argue that Pikachu is In Fact Red's Starter for Various Reasons in the Games, for some Key Reasons
1.) Red's Adventure must've taken Place in Yellow Because his Canon Team Consists of all 3 Kanto Starters, The Eevee from Celadon (which is now an espeon), One of The Snorlax, Presumably from East of Celadon, and His Starter, Pikachu.
2.) Piggybacking off of #1, Red Has all 3 Starters, Which Is (Legally) Impossible, and he could've traded with Blue for Another Starter But How'd he get The 3rd one, If you try and Take Another Starter from Oak at Any time, he'll tell you to not be greedy, and Locks you from the pokeball, but in Yellow? You can get all 3 easily.
(For the Newbies:
You Get Bulbasaur in Cerulean City In the House Next to the PokeCenter, but Pikachu must like you enough, which you can do after spamming Healing Items on it even after its at full HP
You Get Charmander North Of Cerulean After Nugget Bridge, theres a Trainer if you go Northwest after the Bridge and a Trainer will give you it.
For Squirtle, You Must Talk to The Officer Standing In Vermillion, Shes not hard to miss. Im pretty sure you have to beat Surge beforehand though.)
3.) Pikachu is Asscheeks, right? And Red Has one, Although Having Multiple Times to Evolve it, but why wouldn't he, because In Pokemon Yellow *You can't evolve your Starter*
Also Red's Manga starter is actually Poliwag, he Gets Bulbasaur as a Gift from oak and his Pikachu after Catching it In Pewter.
(And if were going off of The OG 3, Red's Mostly Seen with a Bulbasaur in Official Art Back Then and He's really only seen with a Charizard as Canon In EX and Smash Bros. Which aren't Canon at all.)
Thanks so much that you give the Adventures Manga some real credit.
i wouldn't exactly call this credit since he bares what feels like such little respect for the material only having it as an afterthought without ever considering the finer details.
I don’t like how he makes the trainers move.
same, something about seeing ethan/gold snap his fucking neck 7 consecutive times is unsettling
Why are all of the characters having an epileptic seizure? I just want to slap them an yell at them to hold still!
Sooo let me this out of the way.
You can have your opinions.
Aaaand I disagree with them, since my opinion is that I am going with the manga.
You ALSO forgot Pokemon Protagonists, because in every Generation the protagonists get the names of the games, like Diamond(Turtwig as his starter) and Pearl(Chimchar as his starter) while Platinum gets the last starter after some mishaps in the manga.
Since we are talking about the manga here, the Black 2 White 2 volumes 54-55 will be released at the end of April in Japan and we are still waiting for the rest of the world.
As for Gen 5, the characters are supposed to be separated by 2 years apart from each other.
I feel that Oshawott fits more as Nate's starter Pokemon. I liked the angle the manga gave him because of that =D
My Starter Pokemon:
Red: Charizard
Blue: Blastoise
Leaf: Venusaur
Ethan: Typhlosion
Silver: Feraligatr
Kris: Feraligatr
Lyra: Meganium
Brendan: Sceptile/ Swampert (Rival)
May: Blaziken
Wally: None (Gallade)
Lucas: Torterra
Barry: Infernape
Dawn: Empoleon
Hilbert: Samurott
Hilda: Emboar
Cheren: Serperior
Bianca: Emboar
Nate: Emboar
Rosa: Serperior
Hugh: Samurott
Calem: Chesnaught (Kanto: Charizard X)
Serena: Delphox (Kanto: Blastoise)
Shauna: Greninja
Elio: Incineroar
Selene: Decidueye
Hau: Primarina
Chase: Pikachu
Elaine: Eevee
Victor: Rillaboom
Gloria: Cinderace
Hop: Inteleon
Can't wait to see you do this again for gen 9
I think we should also consider Ash's starters pokemon caught in the anime. It makes sense since he's based on the male protagonist of each generation (especially on the clothes).
So that would mean :
Brendan : Treecko
Lucas : Turtwig (Chimchar could also work, but Ash got it later and from Paul which kinda is his Rival in the anime instead of Barry).
Kalem : Froakie
Elio : Litten (Rowlet could also work, but since Hau has one, I think Litten makes more sense).
In the other generations he either caught all 3 of them or neither of them, so they don't count.
Ok so I got a question about your gen 4 decision. Why not give Barry Infernape? It fits his personality well and Dawn and Lucas both have much more clear choices and the only one remaining is Infernape. It just seems weird to leave a starter out.
Have you read the "Golden Boy" manga? Ethan starter was actually Totodile. It may not fit him but I still love the manga, he is like Ash but a bit more skillful 🤗
Crystal real name is Kris
Scared tf outta me when you said "Blake" when talking about Nate's manga counterpart as Blake is my name. Coincidentally, Nate could be short for Nathaniel which is my middle name.
Red is a weird one, because he got retconned a lot.
He has a Bulbasaur in the early Ken Sugimori art while the rival has a Charmander and the unnamed female trainer (that became Green in Pokemon Adventures) has a Squirtle.
He wasn't even named in the manual of the first game. The name Red comes from the final battle on mount Silver in G/S/C and I'd argue that's his canon appearance: both the name and his highest level Pokemon, his starter Pikachu. It holds a Light Ball in HG/SS, an item you can get in Gen 2 only if you transfer your starter Pikachu from Yellow.
You Said that Brandon has a swampert in the manga
Ruby did have a Mudkip though. Isn't that what he meant?
Brenden does have a Muskie that evolves into swampert later on in the manga
Ya it’s not treeko it’s mudkip
@@emerald6625 yes because the animated video he mentioned for treeko has given both other starters to May/Sapphire that's not fair
@@zeeshanhazari well, May IS the Pokemon professor daughter so maybe she got a special "Privileges", who knows.
Red: Charmander (Origins, Masters)
Ethan: Cyndaquil (Masters, Manga, Anime)
Kris: Totodile (Anime, Masters)
Lyra: Chikorita (Anime, Masters, Manga)
Brendan: Treecko (Masters, ORAS Trailer, Generations)
May: Torchic (ORAS Trailer, has Torchic if you choose Treecko)
Lucas: Chimchar (In Masters, Barry has a Piplup)
Dawn: Turtwig (Masters)
Hilbert: Oshawott (Masters, Generations)
Hilda: Tepig (Masters)
Nate: Tepig (B2W2 Trailer)
Rosa: Snivy (B2W2 Trailer, Masters)
Calem: Chespin (Generations)
Serena: Fennekin (Anime, Manga)
Elio: Litten (Hau has Rowlet in the anime)
Selene: Popplio (the only unused starter)
Chase: Pikachu (Let’s Go! Trailer)
Elaine: Eevee (Let’s Go! Trailer)
Victor: Grookey (Hop has Sobble)
Gloria: Scorbunny (SwSh Trailer)
Agreed.
Red and Charmander (Origins and Masters with Masters not being made by Gamefreak)
Red and Bulbasaur (promotional art and comics, manga, Pokemon Generation and Pokemon Let's Go)
Serena in the manga receives Froakie not Fennekin.
Reds starter is bulbasaur because in lets go blue is using charizard and the rival always uses the type advantage (except Swo/Shi) and Red uses bulbasaur in the manga. Green uses squirtle.
@Grr33k I3g3nd so by that logic blues starter is charizard
Manga is not a game
@@shuckle9529 we arent just talking the games
@@mihirvirsingh5375 it is
@@mihirvirsingh5375 reds starter is bulbasaur it is a yin yang relationship because blues original name was green in Japan but switched to blue in america that explains why present day green owns a squirtle
RuffledRowlit: only mentions Pokémon Masters twice
Me: what about the other protagonists in Pokémon Masters?
Red uses Charizard
Also you forgot Leaf which she uses Eevee
Ethan uses Cyndaquil
Kris uses Totodile
Lyra uses Chikorita
Brendan uses Treecko
Hilbert uses Oshawott
Hilda uses Tepig
Rosa uses Snivy
Calem surprisingly doesn’t use a starter in Pokémon Masters which is weird for me
Hömïë dčhääñël and Serena has fenecin
Exactly thank u
By giving Calem Chespin, Shauna would have Greninja and post game she gives you an egg from her Starter
So Calem would have Chesnaught, Charizard and Greninja if he has Chespin
KSound Kaiju true but still greninja fits him more
Yessir
The manga not is the main canon, is one universe
It's what you call a secondary canon just like the anime.
I think oshawott goes to hilbert and tepig goes to hilda, due to masters
Hilbert definitely has Tepig, he had it in the Adventures Manga, he had it in the Fire and Thunder Manga, and he had it in the B2W2 A New Legend Manga. The only times he had Oshawott was in the Meetings with the Legends manga.
@@oldchannel3659 Pokémon masters is canon for the starter
There are two timeline in pokemon- advanced and mega timeline which means Brendan choose a mudkip in advanced timeline and treeko in mega timeline
Exactly he forgot to specify that there are several timelines in Pokemon including a mega
Actual answer: nothing is cannon and they all began with wooper
UNDERRATED COMMENT
These are what I believe the official starters are (keep in mind these are my opinion)
Red- Charmander
Gold- Cyndaquil ( even though I like totodile more)
Brendan-Treecko
May- Torchic
Lukas- Chimchar
Dawn- Piplup
Hilbert- Oshowott (I like snivy more though)
Hilda- honestly I’m not entirely sure
Nate- Tepig
Rosa- Snivy
Calem- Either Chespin or Froakie
Serena- Fennekin
Elio- Litten
Selene- Rowlet
Victor- grookey
Gloria- Scorbunny
What about dawn
I agree 100%
Skully The Ramp shoot I forgot thanks for reminding me though
I also prefer Totadile over Cyndaquil. I think Brendan's supposed to have Mudkip, while Calem is supposed to have Froakie. As for Red I see him as either having Bulbasaur or Charmander depending on the Universe, with Blue Oak getting the starter with the type advantage, & Green Leaf getting the starter weak to Red's. I agree with your choices for Gens 5 & 8 completely. Gen 4 is a complicated mess although Dawn gets Piplup.
its not what you believe, its what you think they should be
off of just the manga
Red:bulbasaur
Blue:charmander
Green:Squirtle
Gold:cyndaquill
Silver:totodile
Kris:Chicorita
Ruby:Mudkip
Sapphire:Torchic
Emerald:Treeco
Diamond:Turtwig
Pearl:Chimchar
Platinum:Piplup
Black:Tepig
White:Snivy
Nate:Oshawott
Rosa:None
X:Chespin/Charmander
Y:Froakie
Sun:littin
Moon:Rowlet
Some of them are canon thanks to the Anime, the Manga, and the Masters game. But other are based on various fan arts. So here I am including the main characters from LGPE, PLA, and SV
Red: Charmander
Leaf: Bulbasaur
Ethan: Cyndaquil
Kris: Totodile
Lyra: Chikorita
Brendan: Treecko
May: Torchic
Lucas: Turtwig
Dawn: Piplup
Hilbert: Oshawott
Hilda: Tepig
Nate: Tepig
Rosa: Snivy
We actually have Hilda carrying a Tepig in Pokemon Evolutions during the speech of Ghetsis in the public place of Accumula Town.
i love these videos but the slight stretchy idles of all the portraits makes me intensely uncomfortable
My opinion
Red:charamander
Leaf:bulbasur
Ethan/jimmy/gold:qyndaquill
Kris/lyra:chickorita
Brendan:treecko
May:mudkip&torchic
Lucas:turtwig
Dawn:piplup
Hilbert:tepig or oshawot
Hilda:snivy
Nate:tepig
Rosa:snivy
Calem:greninja
Serena:fenekin
Sun:litten
Moon:rowlet&poplio
Damn water types never get any love
The only water type starters I like is Squirtle and Popplio
@@Edrian_is_Sincere is froakie a joke to you.
Squirtle = Anime
Totodile = Anime
Mudkip = *MEMES*
Piplup = Anime
Oshawoot = Anime
Froakie = *ANIME*
Poplio = Idk Prob Not
Sobble = Still New To Me
Charmander just feels good with red to me
For me it’s
Red(charizard)
Blue(Blastoise)
Leaf/Green(Venusaur)
Ethan(Typhlosion)
Kris(feraligator)
Lyra(Meganium)
Silver(feraligator)
Brendan(Sceptile)
May(Blaziken and swampert due to the oras animated trailer)
Lucas(infernape)
Dawn(Torterra)
Barry(Empoleon)
Hilbert(samurott)
Hilda(Emboar)
Cheren(Serperior)
Bianca(Emboar)
Nate(Emboar)
Rosa(serperior)
Hugh(Samurott)
Calem(greninja)
Serena(Delphox)
Shauna(Chesnaught)
Elio(Primarina)
Selene(Decidueye)
Hau(Incineroar)
Victor(Rillaboom)
Gloria(Intellion)
Hop(Cinderace)
Also I know people are gonna say but red chose bulbasaur, Lucas chose turtwig Calem chose chespin,dawn chose piplup,hau chose rowlet, or Gloria chose scorbunny. But this is my opinion so don’t attack call me out on the choices I picked.
Also I didn’t include Chase or Elaine because their starters I can see no one argue about.
The Hoenn Protagonists LITERALLY WEAR HOMAGES to their starters. May’s bandana is the same design as Torchic’s head feathers. And Brendan’s hat resembles Mudkip’s spiked cheeks. No argument. Treecko was left at the lab.
Why is Calem so starter not froakie it’s literally in smash and is the mascot of gen 6
Well, all counterparts of Calem(Manga, Generations) always have a Chespin
@@Retsu_07 ok but I’m the games imagine if u battle him he would need a mega but how about he just use ash greninja I mean every make protagonist is a counterpart to ash
He also had a charizard in Generations so I'm guessing that's his mega and starters always have their normal ability when you choose them.
Edit:I forgot that in the Manga he had a Mega Charizard X
@@Retsu_07 I know that’s his backup plan I believe red has charmander or bulbasaur but I prefer charmander, that Ethan has cydiquil bc he always has one in all of his counterparts, Brendan has treeko bc it’s week to Mays and is the most present one, Lucas has either chimchar or turtwig, Hilbert has oshowott bc Bianca has tepig in the anime Cherenkov has snivy in manga and Hilbert has a oshowott in masters, calem has either froakie or chespin, elio has litten, and victor has grookey.
@@custardyboi6951 Calem will still get a froakie in the games if he picked Chespin because shauna will trade you one
Brendan uses a Swampert on the trade cards of hoenn, I can definitely only see him using a mudkip
For me Red’s true starter is Bulbasaur because I love the Adventures manga and because of early game drawing and sketches like that one with Blue and Green (um the trainers not the games) in a circle, Blue has Charmander and Green has squirtle
My headcannon is Charmander but you have a fair point.
Early game drawings also depict Brendan primarily with the Torchic line and Ethan with the Tododile line. The former is least associated with that starter and the latter is almost always associated with Cyndaquil so i'd take them with a grain of salt. And manga isn't cannon. In Adventures their actual first pokemon isn't even a starter.
If you watched the Pokemon Generation specials on the pokemon RUclips channel
Brandon has Grovyle during the attack on Team Magma/Aqua Base
I agree with most of your choices except Red (Bulbasaur), Hilda (Tepig), and Hilbert (Oshawott).
IMO
Kanto:
Red: Charmander
Blue: Squirtle
Leaf: Bulbasaur
Johto:
Ethan: Cyndaquil
Silver: Totodile
Kris: Totodile
Lyra: Chikorita
Hoenn:
Brendan: Treecko
May: Torchic
Wally: Ralts (coz he never had any starters)
Sinnoh:
Dawn: Piplup
Lucas: Chimchar
Barry: Turtwig
Unova: (haven't finished it yet)
Hilbert: Tepig
Hilda: Tepig
Cheren: Oshawott
Bianca: Snivy
Kalos: (I just started my game)
Serena: Fennekin & Bulbasaur
Calem: Froakie & Charmander
Shauna: Chespin
Charmander is my favourite starter but I hate when they try to fix red with Charizard due to its overrating, his starter is either bulbasaur or Pikachu,(origins red is hella boring, due to not enough screentime and Pokemon masters is a complete fan service)
Origins is still the closest adaption of the games we've ever had. The only thing that diverts from them is mega evolution but it doesn't divert anywhere near as much the main anime or mangas do.
For me I think Lucas uses Chimchar...cuz in the anime and Pokemon Master, Barry uses piplup
jvLIE yessir
My opinion:
Red (Bulbasaur)
Leaf/Green/Blue (Squirtle)
Gold/Ethan (Cyndaquil)
Krys/Lyra (Chikorita)
Brendan (Mudkip/Treecko)
May (Torchic)
Wes (Umbreon & Espeon)
Michael (Eevee)
Lucas (Turtwig)
Dawn (Piplup)
Hilbert (Oshawott)
Hilda (Tepig)
Nate (Tepig)
Rosa (Snivy)
Calem (Chespin)
Serena (Fennekin)
Elio (Litten)
Selene (Rowlet)
Chase (Pikachu)
Elaine (Eevee)
Victor (Grookey)
Gloria (Scorbunny)
Basically no love for water starters
Red's real starter is Poliwag, end of discussion.
^^^
Lol
That one of his pokemon
Thats not a starter, and the manga isn’t even canon
@@bleurrr_ the manga is very much canon, Satoshi himself said that it's the closest thing to what he envisioned pokemon to be.
Red -Charmander
Blue-Squirtle
Leaf - bulbasaur
Ethan gold- cyndaquil
Silver- totodile
Crystal(kris) - chikorita
Ruby-mudkip
Sapphire may-torchic
Emerald brendan-treecko
Lucas diamond-turtwig
Barry pearl- chimchar
Dawn platinum- piplup
Black-tepig
White-snivy
Blake-oshwatt
Whitey Rosa- snivy
Calem- chespin
Serena-fennekin
Sun- litten
Moon-poplio
Hau-rowlet
Viktor-grookey
Gloria-scorbunny
Hop-sobble
This is my opinion
I can’t wait to see sone of them in masters
What bothers me is that for SwSh, Hop's canon starter is Grookey(my opinion) and I would thank that Victor is a Single guy. But, because of the way that he chooses the type disadvantage, this isn't possible.
Red Charmander Pikachu
Ethan cyndaquil
Brendan treecko
Lucas Turtwig
Hang on, didn't Brendan have a Mudkip in the manga? Treek does suit him better but he was seen with more then on starter outside of that anime scene.
Rosa and Serena are best female protagonists
@@keshavarya2771 best waifus (add hilda;-;)
Fun Fact: Lyra's first Pokémon was Marill. She had it since her childhood.
AND MINE IS SOBBLE, BECAUSE I HAVEN’T EVER FELT HAPPINESS :D
My headcanon:
Gen 1 - Venusaur, according to Adventures and Pokémon Generations. Bulbasaur is also the first pokémon of the entire pokedex
Gen 2 - Typhlosion, out of every starter, is the one that fits with Ethan the most :P
Gen 3 - Sceptile, according to Generations. Is also strong against both Team Aqua's Water Types and Magma's Ground Types
Gen 4 - Empoleon, according to Adventures, considering Dawn the protag
Gen 5, 1 - Samurott, according to Masters. Also, Snivy and Tepig aesthetically fit with Cheren and Bianca
Gen 5, 2 - Serperior, according to Masters and the Promo Trailer
Gen 6 - Hard to say, Greninja or Chesnaught if you consider the male
Gen 7 - Decidueye, because i don't like the other two as much :P, Incineroar is also perfect for Professor Kukui
Gen 8 - Cinderace, Aesthetically fits with Gloria
Gen IV - It would fit more if Lucas was the protagonist since Dawn would still get Piplup that way.
What happend to the true teams for the rivals of gslar
Hop probably gonna have Sobble. Marnie has Morpeko given to her first and Bede I am torn between Solosis the first Pokemon he was seen with or the Hattena but it seems odd for his starter to be a Gigantamax Pokemon
Venusaur is actually Red’s most present Kanto starter. In the mainline games Venusaur is the only one of the Kanto starters he has had on every team, with let’s go confirming it was his Starter Pokemon. Spin off media like masters, origins, zensho and evolutions (which is weird cos it’s a short based on let’s go where he uses vensusur) show him with Charizard, whilst the main series games, adventures manga, generations, tcg, and original artwork all present Red with Venusaur. I gotta disagree with Reds starter being Charizard, as the games directly counter this fact. Venusaur is canonically his starter.
I don't fully agree with the list in this video, and feel like some agree with me. I would follow the manga. So if I was gonna make a list I would change these:
Red has Bulbasaur
Ruby has Mudkip
Black-2 has Oshawott
And I kinda don't agree with the series when they made Sword have Grookey. I thought he would have Sobble
calling him "sword"
Serena's Pokespe counterpart (Y) has a Greninja
Man, this vídeo is more accurated than I though it would be!
Congratulations! You are a true Pokemon fan!
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