Bourbon & DCS: Not Another CDU Tutorial (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Coordinates)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Hello everyone.
    This is the lazy minimalist DCS A-10 driver's guide to the CDU
    Scroll down for timestamps for specific parts.
    (WARNING! STRONG LANGUAGE)
    EDIT: around 17:05 I misspoke; the overall MRGS grid can sometimes need to be changed. For example, grid 37T is near senaki. In the PG map, the grid also might need to be changed. The grid will always be given with the UTM coordinates though, so principal is the same.
    This video SHOULD be everything you need to know about the CDU and nothing you don't.
    Furthermore, it includes helpful tips for using the CDU, philosophy behind the CDU to better understand its function, and examples for the learn-by-doing types.
    Table of Contents:
    1:20 - Notes about keyboard (DO THIS)
    2:55 - CDU Fundamentals and Philosophy
    4:07 - SPI vs STEER vs WP vs MP
    6:03 - Markpoints
    7:40 - Steerpoints and SPI's
    9:32 - Avionics Auxiliary Panel (AAP)
    10:07 - Page Knob and Pages
    11:40 - CDU Page Layout
    13:03 - Waypoint Searching
    13:37 - Creating a Waypoint
    16:53 - Switching to UTM / MRGS
    17:20 - Markpoint Example and Notes
    18:17 - Desired Time on Target (DTOT)
    20:14 - Wrap up and a few last notes (Not super important)
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Комментарии • 99

  • @neelakiller
    @neelakiller 2 года назад +5

    Don't stop doing what you're doing. Regular Guy tutorials are the best.

  • @jobbo_
    @jobbo_ 2 года назад +3

    To make things even more confusing: most (if not all) of the above can be done with the Up Front Controller (UFC). So you can change the mode to "Mark Point" or "Mission" using the UFC, and the knob on the AAP doesn't move.. brilliant!... when in doubt, turn the knob on the AAP

  • @johnneblett7185
    @johnneblett7185 9 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely wonderful. The penny dropped for me during this video. As a former AF navigator, I can add that the leading zero on the longitude is required because all around the Earth all longitude’s are three digits rather than the two for the latitude. There are places on the Earth where your initial number will not be a zero, but rather a one because longitude is measured to 180° both east and west.

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah I've had a bunch of dudes correct me now. I can't go back and change the video though lol

  • @MrJethroq
    @MrJethroq 5 месяцев назад +1

    I just found this video while on my 3rd time relearning the A-10 after not flying it for 8 months and forgetting lots of stuff, and the CDU is always the part I can't wrap my head around. This was immensely helpful.

  • @topoff33
    @topoff33 9 месяцев назад

    Just found your vids, three years later....ugh However, Probably the best tutorials for the A10. Thank You!!

  • @talk4dews
    @talk4dews 2 года назад +5

    20:33 he said you never need to use the "nav" page. You can use the method he said earlier of searching for a specific airport, but if you use that nav page you can click "divert" and it is very useful to get to the nearest airport as fast as possible. Great for mayday situations where you need to land FAST and have to be down at the CDU for as little time as possible. You just click nav, divert, and then the airport you want to go to and it will set it as your steerpoint and give you radio frequencies, Tacan, ILS, and everything else you could need.

  • @Thumper770
    @Thumper770 3 года назад +7

    @15:24 "For whatever reason.." That reason is simple. There are 180 degrees of longitude. There are only 90 degrees of latitude.

  • @Hedgehawg
    @Hedgehawg 3 года назад +11

    Incredible explanation simple and concise
    Yet has the depth that other tutorials lacked

  • @therocinante3443
    @therocinante3443 2 года назад +1

    This is by FAR the most common sense tutorial of the CDU I've seen. I wish I found it 2 years ago!

  • @thedude7757
    @thedude7757 2 года назад +1

    Offset page is useful to quickly create a waypoint based on a bullseye callout

  • @radoslawbiernacki
    @radoslawbiernacki Год назад +1

    Top to bottom way of explaining things. That's to the point. Thanks!

  • @MrMalior
    @MrMalior 3 года назад +7

    this was now the first CDU tutorial that I've instantly looked till the end :) thanks for these explainations

  • @sschreck
    @sschreck 2 года назад +3

    I particularly enjoyed this tutorial. Thank you sir! Absolutely genius genius genius binding of the CDU keys to the keyboard. I’m going to do that right now but with shift plus whatever key

  • @slaphead90
    @slaphead90 3 года назад +2

    Great stuff - straight to the point. Thanks for that.

  • @slyderace
    @slyderace 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely LOVED your "IDGAF" attitude throughout this video and especially at the end! lol
    I am the same as you. I don't stream on YT to earn a living - if you don't like me swearing because your kids are behind you, put some fucking headphones on!

  • @juliencote78
    @juliencote78 3 года назад +1

    Very useful, the right level of explanation and approach I needed. Thx for the vid.

  • @311Gryphon
    @311Gryphon 2 года назад +3

    Very good stuff. Thanks, I learned a lot. I've been flying the A-10 for a long time and I basically gave up on using the CDU, but now I'm going to go back and work on it a bit more. You probably are aware of this and just didn't want to get tied up explaining it in the video when it wasn't necessary, but for the coordinates the easting needs the first 0 in the case shown because there are 3 digits possible before the decimal, where for north/south there are only 2 digits possible (±180° VS ±90°). Thanks again!

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I was in your shoes and when I FINALLY learned the CDU I made this video more so to help myself understand. I learn better by teaching, sorta.
      I know now about the 0 but I didn't at the time lol

  • @sloppydog4831
    @sloppydog4831 Год назад +2

    Cool video. Very simple and direct to the point. As someone who flies the A-10 for the last 12 years, this has been a great refresher.

  • @neurogenesis6741
    @neurogenesis6741 3 года назад +1

    This video deserves more views and likes. The single best intro on the CDU.

  • @griffin5012
    @griffin5012 Год назад

    Excellent tutorial - I was trying to learn flight planning and TOT yesterday - this made using the CDU so much easier - thank you

  • @relfch9296
    @relfch9296 4 года назад +3

    I like your attitude man, very straight to the point tutorial like is should be done. wish I can learn more from your channel's & thanks for the effort!

  • @GalloRojos
    @GalloRojos 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic tutorial. Thx a lot.

  • @TheEndlessFields
    @TheEndlessFields Год назад +1

    Great tutorial! You should continue to do these. You explain things well and have good common sense advise.

  • @Gribbstar
    @Gribbstar Год назад

    Really well explained. Thanks!

  • @ghostskills
    @ghostskills 6 месяцев назад

    great one ! didnt fly for 2 years. this one helps alot to get back in.

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  6 месяцев назад

      Dude I’ll have periods of non activity and forget myself and rewatch my own videos 😂

  • @MarcTNL
    @MarcTNL 3 года назад +1

    FINALY a video that explains a bit more than all the superficial other ones ! MY compliments. Could have gone deeper into the right knob (the one that's mostly set to "other") but stil happy I found this.
    Going to look for a similar video about the TAD. That holds secrets too !

  • @v0rtex761
    @v0rtex761 2 месяца назад

    Great video! A perfect refresher for me, as I was not flying the Hog for a year or so.

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  2 месяца назад

      Dude I even watch my own video when I forget sometimes 😂

  • @craig4306
    @craig4306 2 года назад

    Superb vid mate 🤙🏻

  • @viperkeeper
    @viperkeeper Год назад

    Great nuggets!

  • @SsgtHolland
    @SsgtHolland 2 года назад +2

    Great overview, very well condensed!
    Small but important note: markpoint Z is NOT the place where the last weapon was USED but where the last weapon (Gun too) HIT THE GROUND. It marks the spot on the ground plane where you were firing your weapon at.

  • @Barney-ic3uy
    @Barney-ic3uy Год назад

    I may be 3 yrs late to the party... but awesome explanation/tutorial !!!!

  • @alexanderryan-jones600
    @alexanderryan-jones600 4 года назад +2

    Instant subscription- this is *exactly* the kind of tutorials we need for DCS. Keen to see more mate. - Tempest

    • @alexanderryan-jones600
      @alexanderryan-jones600 4 года назад +2

      14:35 - "Do you wanna make waypoint 6?" [?6]
      This is a great way to explain it.

    • @alexanderryan-jones600
      @alexanderryan-jones600 4 года назад +1

      17:04 - If you check the F10 map you will notice that there are two MGRS grids in the Caucasus Map. There are situations where you will need to target the other grid- and there are even situations where a target can be on both grids. 38T is the most common, but I have had to add coordinates that fall under the other grid (the name of which escapes me).
      All over, this is why I prefer LAT/LON, even if it's slower. Also- it's what every other jet uses.

    • @alexanderryan-jones600
      @alexanderryan-jones600 4 года назад +2

      Final note - the DIVERT function is really useful if you find yourself low on fuel or damaged. It listed airfields from nearest to the aircraft. The Off-set function you added at the end is something we're starting to see used a bit more now. Certainly it was included in the Mirage-2000C and now we're seeing that functionality come up in the F-14B. Offset targets are good when you've got moving targets by a known landmark (say a bridge).
      They are fiddly but there is a good reason to have that functionality- totally get why it was skipped in this video though.
      Great work, again- this is just what the community needs. Nice to see the A-10 getting some love too (in a lot of ways the HOTAS and avionics are superior to the F-16 and F/A-18, which is good considering the job it's being asked to do).

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  4 года назад +1

      @@alexanderryan-jones600 Thanks for pointing out that oversight! I added an update in the description... since apparently you can't annotate youtube videos anymore...? super irritating. Anyway, thanks for the help!

  • @bartacomuskidd775
    @bartacomuskidd775 3 года назад +2

    13:35 Quick Waypoint Creation, On the Fly Waypoints. JTAC/SADL/JTRS

  • @BrianHSC
    @BrianHSC 3 года назад

    Great tutorial. Short and sweet. BTW 20:50, I believe you can have new set of markpoints with new flight plan. Useful for keeping separate set of markpoints.

  • @rudelchw
    @rudelchw 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the Tutorial, very clear and fairly concise .. very toughtful to include a Table of Contents. Some suggestions for future tutorials: speak just a bit slower, for the benefit of non-native english speakers like myself .. and when speaking about items on the HUD, apply a bit of Zoom as it is kind of hard to see the smallish HUD of the A-10 .. loved that you resisted the temptation to add background music ... thank you again and you've just earned another Subscriber :)

    • @JasnajaPoljana
      @JasnajaPoljana 2 года назад

      i ve put him on speed by increasing to 1.5. cant stand people speaking slow.

  • @MikolandoGuy
    @MikolandoGuy 8 месяцев назад

    Great video, man

  • @Teomoful
    @Teomoful 4 года назад +3

    Gr8 tutorial! i understand you covering the basics, but, if i may add. Dont say you never have to touch the Low Altitude Safety and Targeting Enhancements (LASTE) system.

  • @Pipok1973
    @Pipok1973 3 года назад +2

    Actually it's not all what You should know about CDU. The wind page is also very useful when bombing with dumb or non-gps steered bombs from higher altitude. Entering data there causes to make correction of bombing point depending of how high and from what direction You approach the target.

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  2 года назад +1

      I have problems with this... maybe I'll make a video on this next. Thanks!

  • @november5945
    @november5945 10 месяцев назад

    Needed this😳

  • @davejohnson5278
    @davejohnson5278 3 года назад +2

    Cool video, I've watched many of these and was still confused, you cleared things up. So let me help you.
    MGRS stands for Military Grid Reference System, UTM stands for Universal Transverse Mercater (sp), both are world wide used for locations in the military, more so than Lat/Long. The Map sheet Reference number will change depending on what part of the world you are in, and in a couple places in the DCS world will change on the mapsheet itself, sometimes you have to look close at grid lines.
    Just an FYI, I'm a subscriber now.

  • @WhiskeyDale
    @WhiskeyDale 8 месяцев назад

    great info

  • @BullsEye72
    @BullsEye72 2 года назад +1

    "Fuck this, fuck that, and fuck this button in particular, OH, this one is cool watch this"
    Thanks :D I now have the needed knowledge to use this thing without messing my brain with all the rest haha

  • @homersrevenge3691
    @homersrevenge3691 3 года назад

    Thanks 👍

  • @faelwolf1177
    @faelwolf1177 3 года назад +1

    Why would you convert a markpoint to a waypoint? So it won't be overwritten if you are using a lot of markpoints, and you need to keep it for some reason, say your flight lead has designated it as a marshalling area or IP on a very busy night, or you've discovered an area with friendly troops that weren't part of the mission brief that you want to keep track of, etc. Not likely to happen in DCS unless someone has created a nightmare mission, but in R/L it allows you to adapt to a shifting battlefield. Wish this video had been around when I first started with the A-10, awesome job!

  • @mururoa7024
    @mururoa7024 3 года назад

    Helpful 👍

  • @Ryzler13
    @Ryzler13 3 года назад +1

    Hey Man, great video but you could at least zoom into the CDU a little more.
    Even if a Tank could dig a hole to burrow and hide in those bunker busters will find them.
    A-10R has a feature where you press a button and all enemies within 1000 miles explode.

  • @kestrel6078
    @kestrel6078 3 года назад +1

    Hey there. Good video! Can you explain how to delete mark- and waypoints and flightplans?

  • @yieovgwqxaz7912
    @yieovgwqxaz7912 Год назад

    Nice 1

  • @Shadow__133
    @Shadow__133 2 года назад +1

    Keyboard shortcuts won't help if you fly VR 😞
    Good video! I'm trying to re-learn the a10c. 👍

  • @olivertv6175
    @olivertv6175 3 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @bartacomuskidd775
    @bartacomuskidd775 3 года назад

    Thanks man

  • @steelpanther88
    @steelpanther88 2 года назад +1

    can you make a tutorial how to add an existing waypoint into the flight plan? It could be useful if it can be done, like if you takeoff and put A10 on autopilot while going to target on multiplayer server. Then you dont have existing good flight plan in the A10 with any target coordinates. so you need to create target waypoints first and ideally you would add those custom waypoints into your flight plan? Or you would do this while on the ground at the cold start I think.

  • @scottdaastol
    @scottdaastol 2 года назад

    Ty

  • @HuDz1966
    @HuDz1966 2 года назад

    Is there a quick way to select a specific waypoint as a steerpoint by only typing in the waypoint number? cant see to figure this out. Cheers

  • @iain8837
    @iain8837 2 года назад

    14:36, so this button always shows the next waypoint in the sequence, in this case 6. What if you are at waypoint 2, and you are told to update the location of waypoint 5 to a new coordinate? How to you do that. Also, if you click on that button, it count up, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and so on, until 50, then gives a CDU error. How do you reset that button back to 6?

  • @PeachStateATV
    @PeachStateATV 2 года назад

    When you are in a mission do you recommend adding all ypur targets as mark points?

  • @yieovgwqxaz7912
    @yieovgwqxaz7912 Год назад

    What is spi. Can you please demystify it? Does spi means when I launch the bombs its going to hit the spi?

  • @therocinante3443
    @therocinante3443 2 года назад

    12:55 I see what you did there ;)

  • @daemon3spade
    @daemon3spade 2 года назад +1

    What are the blank button do on the cdu?

  • @andrefreeman7025
    @andrefreeman7025 3 года назад

    Really good tutorial. Only the start part was little slow with a lot of balast.

  • @mojopy01
    @mojopy01 Год назад

    (Double finger gun) you da man!

  • @MrBlancodan
    @MrBlancodan 3 года назад +1

    I just subscribed because he doesn't give a fck

  • @tylerw1418
    @tylerw1418 10 месяцев назад

    👊🏻

  • @jez3774
    @jez3774 2 года назад +1

    Northings go up to 90 Deg eastings or westings go up to 180 deg hens the 0

  • @d.porter3142
    @d.porter3142 Год назад

    14:52 FYI, an airplane hangar is spelled "hangar".

    • @BlackSockRepublic
      @BlackSockRepublic  Год назад

      YYEEEAAHHHH I know now. Embarrassing mistake I can’t fix now ( ಢ__ಢ )

  • @timemageatomsk
    @timemageatomsk Год назад

    "who who who is useing the keyboard shortcuts" me learning the game on mouse and keyboard because im poor :c

  • @joel-bg2xw
    @joel-bg2xw 3 года назад +2

    ape 10 haha

  • @jls191
    @jls191 Год назад

    HEHEHE I was 666 person to like this!!! LMAO

  • @2xKTfc
    @2xKTfc 10 месяцев назад

    The DCS manual is fantastically exhaustive and yet amazingly useless. It does a great job of saying "This is X button. X button does X. Press X button to do X when you want to do X." Which is all correct, but misses any and all information on why and when to do X to freaking start with! And without knowledge about what X is for and how to know when to use X... the manual is patently useless and a waste of perfectly fine paper (or disk space)...

  • @kontoname
    @kontoname 4 года назад

    Video actually starts @1:09 before that it talks about how it wouldn't be boring and other boring stuff.

  • @rzr2ffe325
    @rzr2ffe325 Год назад

    I still hate the CDU. Wish it was more intuitive