What a superb car ! That design is just... WOW.... Peugeot has levelled up big time. They are on a roll, can't stop making top cars... Peugeot is as good as German car makers.
@@Tobi-ln9xr You are entitled to your own opinion, mate. Being an auto engineer, with 27 years of work experience (VW Group and Renault), I think I'm qualified to tell you that Peugeot has really levelled up, and everybody knows it in the industry. When I check what they have done with that 408, with the 508, the 2008, the 3008, etc... sorry but I fail to see how they are inferior to VW. It's just that some people won't ever want to admit it, simply because it's French car maker. And they don't like the fact that the French can do top stuff.
@@garnray8568 You didn't say Volkswagen, you wrote "German car makers" which are mostly premium car makers like BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche etc. The only "german" car brand which is in the price class of a Peugeot, is Opel. And yes, french cars are by far inferior compared to other brands. Poor building quality, unreliable, rust issues and they are absolutely hideous (even though thats an subjective opinion) But you would probably also compare a Toyota Corolla with a Bentley flying spur...
4:08 i'll never understand why all coupe-like cars nowadays are offering that much leg room if there is no head room. Put the rear bench a bit forward and at least you'd get a bigger boot (and even a little more head room). I doubt that there is that many giant legged short torsoed creatures that would appreciate this current setting.
i never saw a person who seats like the presenters on the back seats. everyone just slide a little bit forward where the their backs isnt fully on the seats. so that head room is fine
Beautiful car as always by Peugeot but the only issue I have is the tiny engine with tiny BHP for a big car like this... outside that is a good all rounded
I have had my 208 since September and have really grown to like the driving position and dash layout. The small steering wheel feels very sporty. I do agree though that they made a mistake putting the temperature controls in the software and not as physical buttons. It is more distracting to use when on the move. That's the only thing I'd change. I think if people are comparing the 408 and the C5 there's not much between them apart from the styling. The 408 is much nicer looking.
I'm glad you're enjoying your 308. For the 408 temp. control situation, the bottom screen or the "iToggle", you can add up to 6 shortcuts side by side, so, you can customize an exact temp. control settings and save it. You don't have an always-available temp. control. But you can simply press 1 button and your favorite temp. control setting will be activated. Let's be honest, how many times do we need to actually change the temp. control? We do change it, but not that much>
Peugeot does make some amazing looking cars these days They're definitely on the roll at the moment. And not just great looking cars . Reliable as well! I own 2 pugs. One of them is 15 years old 308 GT 2l HDI with 143k on clock and I had no issues whatsoever. Done Europe trip in it 4700 miles in 2 weeks no problem. Then I own 308 GTi BPS 270 for over 5 years now and same not a single issue! Not even burnt bulb 🙏 well Done Peugeot 👏👏👏
Great design, front and back. I think I prefer the rather funkier dash to the CX5 . I would consider the 408 over the CX5. But if I wanted and estate then the 508, just a beautiful sleek low estate car. 208 is my favourite small hatch for design too. Nice colour range for Peugeot range, different and bold.
I would consider the 408. The price point however is very high. We just brought an e2008 GT and love it. I drive a 330e M Sport and I’d need to have a test drive for a few days to see if this would ever be an option. The depreciation make Peugeot so expensive on PCP. Maybe I’ll buy a 1 year old version in a couple of years 😅
As attractive as they are the Peugeots/Citroens are hugely handicapped by the limited engine offer. These days we have better alternatives with mild hybrid or full hybrid engines which make more sense for the high mileage user who typically by this type of car.
Have this in Elixir red and 17 inch alloys. Smooth to drive and drop dead georgeous to look at. As for no dials for air con just say 'ok Peugeot turn air con to ....' and it does it for you. Who needs physical buttons?!
BMW: B I G nostrills and incapable of driving on cobblestone roads without crumpling like foil Peugeot: No matter how modern Our cars might look, you can easily make a rally tune with just spray paint and patterns. No turbo required
I would compare it with the newly launched Toyota Crown crossover in Japan and US. Like 408, Crown is hard to pin down if it's a sedan, estate/wagon or SUV.
I really like Peugeot cars overall and looking to finally replace my 10 years old diesel 208 but when I look at the prices... Ridiculous. A bit of extra space and some extra stuff is just not worth the money sadly. And if you don't buy the hybrid the fuel costs are even higher that with good old diesel engine. I think they need a different strategy how to get buyers.
Yes - I live in Australia and the diesel engine (especially the 2.0L diesel) is a far better alternative. Unfortunately they were discontinued in 2022. In Australia the 2.0L diesel engine was placed in the 308 3008 (and 5008 I think). By far the best engine - Is Europe 6 compliant but not Euro 7.)
It's not an SUV or an estate car. It's a hatchback! Surely it sits, in the Peugeot range, between the 308 and the 508. Oh, I just noticed it's called the 408. Funny that.
Unfortunately, around here, French brands Peugeot/Citroën and Renault have a very poor reputation. Skoda also, they only sell a few Skodas around here, after problems with corrosion during the last 20 years. Only VW, Audi, Toyota, Mercedes-Benz and BMW are really considered by most people.
For the first time I have mixed feelings... I love the 508, the 308, the 3008. But the 408? It feels like they have gone too far in their design. Just looking at the face I am okay. But then come the proportions... and the rear :( I don't understand the massive bumper, it feels like they had some bumpers in stock and just glued them to the body. Maybe it looks different in reality. But I'm not a fan. I have always been a big fan of Peugeot, but here I am disappointed. I much prefer the Citroën C5X which has a lot more elegance. Sorry, Peugeot.
I don't understand why Peugeot design & release a new model yet there is no fully electric version..... Until "the future"....!! Too late... I think the "future" will have many Chinese brands selling & taking market share.
Why, why, why do reviewers always test the top of the range hybrid models, which will sell in much lower numbers than other models. The hybrid makes no sense at all if you do a lot of long journeys.
The space between Peugeot and Citroen is becoming more clouded and squeezed, now, more than ever Citroen needs an original DS reinterpretation complete with hydraulics and unique bodywork.
Whoever thought to implement that stupid driving wheel design on all new Peugeot models deserves to be fired. He deprived this great car company from thousands and thousands of sales. If you are tall, or heavy, do not sit slouched, or simply like to rest your hand on top of the driving wheel, this is not going to work for you. This inexcusable design mistake is a prime reason why so many new Peugeots are resold so quickly.
This is absolute nonsense. I purchased a 2022 3008 late last year. I went for test drives first because I had read about the i-cockpit concerns in reviews (especially the UK reviews)_ I am 6ft tall , my wife is 5ft2" and the salesman was about 5ft 6" - my grandson is 6ft 2". I took off all of the preset positions and asked each person (including myself) to find a comfortable driving position where they could see the instrument panel. No-one took more than a minute to find a good driving position. I asked the salesman what the problem was - his answer - THE DRIVER - and I agree with him. It sounds like you've never sat in an i-cockpit. There is forward /aft, up/down adjustment for the seat. The same with the steering wheel. The only problem I could forsee is maybe a 6ft 9" person driving a 3008 with a sunroof (restricts headroom???) BTW your hand should not be on top of the steering wheel. Your hand position should be somewhere between 10 to 2 and a quarter to 3.
@@MrCatlover Yes - point taken. However Peugeots like the 205 GTi were certainly near the top of the field. What happened was that other car brands caught up. I bought a 1969 Peugeot 404 - the one with the 1618cc engine and 13" front disc brakes. The only family car anywhere near it was the Citroen.
Let's hope it is better than my 1 year 47k 3008, rattles in door panals thing fall off, Parker sensors, mirror glass, centre wheel caps, highbrid battery range waist of time, petrol engine loud and drinks fuel economy rubbish.
So an estate has more boot space? Hardly a reasonable comparison. Kind of how the reviews by this presenter always seem to be; a bit nit picky and often with curious comparisons or criticisms. Great looking car. Love my 2008. Peugeot have a top range now. Citroen and DS too. Allez!
Personally, I would have the Superb in hatch or estate with the 1.5 auto drivetrain over either of these. I really don't like the Peugeot iCockpit, it's too compromised and the Citroen is just not a good looking car. The infotainment in both cars is not for me either. The interiors of both French cars look nice, except for that iCockpit, and the Peugeot exterior is quite striking as well.
Each with their own but the "Superb" (what a sarcastic name) is as dull as it can be, and, while it has more space, it's also huge. The iCockpit is fantastic if you are tall and fit.
I am a Peugeot fan and have a few in my collection but this isn’t one for me! I really liked the 508 but then it all started to go wrong with the new 308 and what the hell is this? A car, an suv? Really not sure. I am disliking where car design is heading right now across all car manufacturers. I will stick to the old classics thanks.
In my opinion any car under 2.0 is destined to fail within few years of use, they are slowly starting same trend like with phones… I mean, yeah it looks amazing but if you consider how small engine is on that size of a car im pretty sure it will be disaster after few years of use. Time will show.
The touch screen Aircon controls completely put me off and I was thoroughly obsessed with Peugeot's new range. Every time you want to change temp you have to look down at a screen, taking your eyes of the road for a number of seconds... Rather than just feel for a physical knob and keep eyes on the road. How did they honestly think this was a good idea?!
As the driver, I will spend most of my time behind the steering wheel. Consequently, the Peugeot's iCockpit wins my vote. I much prefer my older C5s (cars) over the new C5X (pretend SUV) so I will be changing to the Peugeot branded vehicles next car. Citroen have lost most of their individual charms.
Don’t know why these testers keep moaning about the touch screens for heat controls and other functions. That’s what the voice activation is for surely. Temperature Increase, temperature decrease, radio station LBC etc….
Which would you have: Peugeot 408 or Citroen C5X?👇
CX5 for me...
408
C5X
408 :)
408 if it has auto hold feature🤩
What a superb car ! That design is just... WOW.... Peugeot has levelled up big time. They are on a roll, can't stop making top cars... Peugeot is as good as German car makers.
Lol
@@jesuschrist2284 That's the truth.
I don’t know what you guys are smoking. But comparing that with German cars is like comparing a Toyota to a Bentley…
@@Tobi-ln9xr You are entitled to your own opinion, mate. Being an auto engineer, with 27 years of work experience (VW Group and Renault), I think I'm qualified to tell you that Peugeot has really levelled up, and everybody knows it in the industry. When I check what they have done with that 408, with the 508, the 2008, the 3008, etc... sorry but I fail to see how they are inferior to VW. It's just that some people won't ever want to admit it, simply because it's French car maker. And they don't like the fact that the French can do top stuff.
@@garnray8568
You didn't say Volkswagen, you wrote "German car makers" which are mostly premium car makers like BMW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche etc.
The only "german" car brand which is in the price class of a Peugeot, is Opel.
And yes, french cars are by far inferior compared to other brands. Poor building quality, unreliable, rust issues and they are absolutely hideous (even though thats an subjective opinion)
But you would probably also compare a Toyota Corolla with a Bentley flying spur...
4:08 i'll never understand why all coupe-like cars nowadays are offering that much leg room if there is no head room. Put the rear bench a bit forward and at least you'd get a bigger boot (and even a little more head room).
I doubt that there is that many giant legged short torsoed creatures that would appreciate this current setting.
i never saw a person who seats like the presenters on the back seats. everyone just slide a little bit forward where the their backs isnt fully on the seats. so that head room is fine
Beautiful car as always by Peugeot but the only issue I have is the tiny engine with tiny BHP for a big car like this... outside that is a good all rounded
It's because of their government unfortunately.
Yes - the 408 needs the 1.6 engine at least.
I have had my 208 since September and have really grown to like the driving position and dash layout. The small steering wheel feels very sporty. I do agree though that they made a mistake putting the temperature controls in the software and not as physical buttons. It is more distracting to use when on the move. That's the only thing I'd change. I think if people are comparing the 408 and the C5 there's not much between them apart from the styling. The 408 is much nicer looking.
I'm glad you're enjoying your 308.
For the 408 temp. control situation, the bottom screen or the "iToggle", you can add up to 6 shortcuts side by side, so, you can customize an exact temp. control settings and save it. You don't have an always-available temp. control. But you can simply press 1 button and your favorite temp. control setting will be activated. Let's be honest, how many times do we need to actually change the temp. control? We do change it, but not that much>
@@13Iyad I had the same trouble with my 3008 - I just set the temperature controls before I move off. Pretty simple really.
Peugeot does make some amazing looking cars these days They're definitely on the roll at the moment. And not just great looking cars . Reliable as well! I own 2 pugs. One of them is 15 years old 308 GT 2l HDI with 143k on clock and I had no issues whatsoever. Done Europe trip in it 4700 miles in 2 weeks no problem. Then I own 308 GTi BPS 270 for over 5 years now and same not a single issue! Not even burnt bulb 🙏 well Done Peugeot 👏👏👏
Not even a stained spark plug.
Great design, front and back. I think I prefer the rather funkier dash to the CX5 . I would consider the 408 over the CX5. But if I wanted and estate then the 508, just a beautiful sleek low estate car. 208 is my favourite small hatch for design too. Nice colour range for Peugeot range, different and bold.
It's C5X, not CX5
I would consider the 408. The price point however is very high. We just brought an e2008 GT and love it. I drive a 330e M Sport and I’d need to have a test drive for a few days to see if this would ever be an option. The depreciation make Peugeot so expensive on PCP. Maybe I’ll buy a 1 year old version in a couple of years 😅
Peugeot has come along way in the past 10-15 years. I’ve got a new 208 and it’s an excellent car
I saw this on a tiktok, absolute stunner of a design.
This is what i call next generation of cars
As attractive as they are the Peugeots/Citroens are hugely handicapped by the limited engine offer. These days we have better alternatives with mild hybrid or full hybrid engines which make more sense for the high mileage user who typically by this type of car.
Have this in Elixir red and 17 inch alloys. Smooth to drive and drop dead georgeous to look at. As for no dials for air con just say 'ok Peugeot turn air con to ....' and it does it for you. Who needs physical buttons?!
I suspect a lot of traditional saloons will move to this shape. It just makes more sense when you need to fit batteries in the floor
Lovely car, but the C5X is a notch above it and the latter's design will stand better the passage of time.
No physical button för AC, that's a shame 🥺
I still think the saloons and estates look better!
Thanks for the review. I initially wanted to buy this car, but ended up buying the Citroën C5X.
43k good luck shifting them 😂
I fancy a c5x and we have a family run Citroen dealership in my town
Love Pugs but the newer interiors are just too much, quite angular and aggressive. Not a calm place to be.
C5-X for its singularity!
It's okay like the design better than the old one but suv or not look better with roof bars though
Looks great.Peugeot doing great things these days😍
BMW: B I G nostrills and incapable of driving on cobblestone roads without crumpling like foil
Peugeot: No matter how modern Our cars might look, you can easily make a rally tune with just spray paint and patterns. No turbo required
Nice car but crazy pricing
Isn‘t the Renault Arkana a competitor too?
For me it is an suv coupe, no?
I would compare it with the newly launched Toyota Crown crossover in Japan and US. Like 408, Crown is hard to pin down if it's a sedan, estate/wagon or SUV.
I really like Peugeot cars overall and looking to finally replace my 10 years old diesel 208 but when I look at the prices... Ridiculous. A bit of extra space and some extra stuff is just not worth the money sadly. And if you don't buy the hybrid the fuel costs are even higher that with good old diesel engine. I think they need a different strategy how to get buyers.
Looks awesome to me !
Nice car, but is it really worth the extra money for the hybrid, also no diesel
Yes - I live in Australia and the diesel engine (especially the 2.0L diesel) is a far better alternative. Unfortunately they were discontinued in 2022. In Australia the 2.0L diesel engine was placed in the 308 3008 (and 5008 I think). By far the best engine - Is Europe 6 compliant but not Euro 7.)
I love my 408 but, trying to control the heating is a Nightmare!!
Great design but are they reliable?
Doesn't it compete directly with the Cupra Formentor?
It's not an SUV or an estate car. It's a hatchback! Surely it sits, in the Peugeot range, between the 308 and the 508. Oh, I just noticed it's called the 408. Funny that.
Unfortunately, around here, French brands Peugeot/Citroën and Renault have a very poor reputation. Skoda also, they only sell a few Skodas around here, after problems with corrosion during the last 20 years. Only VW, Audi, Toyota, Mercedes-Benz and BMW are really considered by most people.
Where's that - the land of minicab drivers? 🙄
For the first time I have mixed feelings... I love the 508, the 308, the 3008. But the 408? It feels like they have gone too far in their design. Just looking at the face I am okay. But then come the proportions... and the rear :(
I don't understand the massive bumper, it feels like they had some bumpers in stock and just glued them to the body. Maybe it looks different in reality. But I'm not a fan. I have always been a big fan of Peugeot, but here I am disappointed. I much prefer the Citroën C5X which has a lot more elegance. Sorry, Peugeot.
I don't understand why Peugeot design & release a new model yet there is no fully electric version..... Until "the future"....!! Too late... I think the "future" will have many Chinese brands selling & taking market share.
Why, why, why do reviewers always test the top of the range hybrid models, which will sell in much lower numbers than other models. The hybrid makes no sense at all if you do a lot of long journeys.
Probably because the car manufacturers marketing department want more "air time" for their best offering and are supplying such models.
I think that after all these years I may be tempted to trade in my maestro city x for this
The space between Peugeot and Citroen is becoming more clouded and squeezed, now, more than ever Citroen needs an original DS reinterpretation complete with hydraulics and unique bodywork.
Is there auto hold feature 🤔
408 anyday👍
of course its the same wheel distance when its the same emp3 platform
This is like a squashed BMW X4/6 type of car. Not convinced with the design, feels out of proportion.
I will wait for the fully electric 408, once that is confirmed definitely will order one.
Really nice colour👍
As good as it is, sadly this car will have to be re-engineered to meet the new 2025 EU 7 emission regulations.
Which year is this?
This Gt model is 200 pcm on lease , nuts
The touch controls are not made for use in cars, we need fiscal buttons guys
Whoever thought to implement that stupid driving wheel design on all new Peugeot models deserves to be fired. He deprived this great car company from thousands and thousands of sales.
If you are tall, or heavy, do not sit slouched, or simply like to rest your hand on top of the driving wheel, this is not going to work for you.
This inexcusable design mistake is a prime reason why so many new Peugeots are resold so quickly.
This is absolute nonsense. I purchased a 2022 3008 late last year. I went for test drives first because I had read about the i-cockpit concerns in reviews (especially the UK reviews)_ I am 6ft tall , my wife is 5ft2" and the salesman was about 5ft 6" - my grandson is 6ft 2". I took off all of the preset positions and asked each person (including myself) to find a comfortable driving position where they could see the instrument panel. No-one took more than a minute to find a good driving position. I asked the salesman what the problem was - his answer - THE DRIVER - and I agree with him. It sounds like you've never sat in an i-cockpit. There is forward /aft, up/down adjustment for the seat. The same with the steering wheel. The only problem I could forsee is maybe a 6ft 9" person driving a 3008 with a sunroof (restricts headroom???)
BTW your hand should not be on top of the steering wheel. Your hand position should be somewhere between 10 to 2 and a quarter to 3.
He says that because he is a bad driver.
I struggle to get excited about French cars but they could be on to something here.
Will this be available in the US?
Having all the measurements in metric would be great!
Best looking car I’ve ever seen
Not everyone can have a plug-in eclectic car them living in blocks of flats can't have one
Buy the petrol one, then
@@Xerxesro1 The 1.3 is a bit underpowered.
I like the citroen better.
Well done 🦁
That's a really beautiful car with Amazon design. Much better than rivals imo.
Autocorrect always messes up my sentences too
Reminds me of the Rover SD1
Peugeot peaked long ago as a car brand with the Peugeot 504!
You are a long way behind the times. (and I owned 4 504's - good cars)
@@allanbriggs9007 I meant of course relative to the times!
@@MrCatlover Yes - point taken. However Peugeots like the 205 GTi were certainly near the top of the field. What happened was that other car brands caught up. I bought a 1969 Peugeot 404 - the one with the 1618cc engine and 13" front disc brakes. The only family car anywhere near it was the Citroen.
Super handsome. Wish I could swap the ride out for the cushiony Citroen
Let's hope it is better than my 1 year 47k 3008, rattles in door panals thing fall off, Parker sensors, mirror glass, centre wheel caps, highbrid battery range waist of time, petrol engine loud and drinks fuel economy rubbish.
Imagine Peugeot 408 crossover with Falcon Door like Tesla Model X it would be AMAZING 😤
Looks like Homer Simpson designed it.
The car is so nice, however it is just a bit expensive, in China where those cars are made, it is just starting from 20k Euro, that is a pity
It has physical climate controls, right under the screen. They are big, shiny and labelled. You must be blind, jeez...
So an estate has more boot space? Hardly a reasonable comparison. Kind of how the reviews by this presenter always seem to be; a bit nit picky and often with curious comparisons or criticisms.
Great looking car. Love my 2008. Peugeot have a top range now. Citroen and DS too. Allez!
Good looking car let down by poor engines
Bonnet, bespoke, is this another language to what we speak in Australia? I’ve never heard of the word bespoke before.
I will wait for 408e
Personally, I would have the Superb in hatch or estate with the 1.5 auto drivetrain over either of these. I really don't like the Peugeot iCockpit, it's too compromised and the Citroen is just not a good looking car. The infotainment in both cars is not for me either. The interiors of both French cars look nice, except for that iCockpit, and the Peugeot exterior is quite striking as well.
Each with their own but the "Superb" (what a sarcastic name) is as dull as it can be, and, while it has more space, it's also huge. The iCockpit is fantastic if you are tall and fit.
I am a Peugeot fan and have a few in my collection but this isn’t one for me! I really liked the 508 but then it all started to go wrong with the new 308 and what the hell is this? A car, an suv? Really not sure. I am disliking where car design is heading right now across all car manufacturers. I will stick to the old classics thanks.
Looks better than premium brand competitors
Great looking car but them wheels look nasty
Bring back the RCZ 😢
Gonna wait for full electric.
I'm guessing that you've gained enough knowledge in the past year to realise that electric is not the way forward?
The last decent car Peugeot made was the 205gti 1.9.
Manual mode is flickering 1. gear...
best peugeot ever!😁
In my opinion any car under 2.0 is destined to fail within few years of use, they are slowly starting same trend like with phones… I mean, yeah it looks amazing but if you consider how small engine is on that size of a car im pretty sure it will be disaster after few years of use. Time will show.
Superb design! Would anyone like this car in EV form ?
The body kit, is way light, its not safe !
But is it reliable?
1000'th like is mine
Cool car
Why does remind me if the new Toyota Crown?
That looks like a total dogs breakfast. Huge car, small boot. Brilliant.
Is Doug related to John?
for the look alone inside and out
the 408 should worth double the price of the c5 x
It's parked like an SUV at 1:40.
The interior is plain awkward at best
The touch screen Aircon controls completely put me off and I was thoroughly obsessed with Peugeot's new range. Every time you want to change temp you have to look down at a screen, taking your eyes of the road for a number of seconds... Rather than just feel for a physical knob and keep eyes on the road. How did they honestly think this was a good idea?!
Coupe versions of SUVs are pointless.
Don't Renault have a rival to this? In body style rather than price tag any way
Arkana is smaller
As the driver, I will spend most of my time behind the steering wheel.
Consequently, the Peugeot's iCockpit wins my vote.
I much prefer my older C5s (cars) over the new C5X (pretend SUV) so I will be changing to the Peugeot branded vehicles next car.
Citroen have lost most of their individual charms.
Looks like a bad version of Citroen E-C4 X...too plastic in the back!🙁
Don’t know why these testers keep moaning about the touch screens for heat controls and other functions. That’s what the voice activation is for surely. Temperature Increase, temperature decrease, radio station LBC etc….
Small steering wheel loses a lot of buyers
1.2 engine? 130 horsepower? This car doesn't seem to have good cost-performance value for its price.
a fastback 3008. VW have done the same with the ID5 and Renault with the Arkana 🤮🤮