"at least they didn't accuse me of sticking things down my pee-hole" Doug Wilson 2021 The levity of this sarcasm up to and including it's source is certainly a weather vane of sorts for the time...
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . :)
I don't know anyone I admire and respect more than I do Nancy and Doug Wilson. THANK YOU for being on the front line of the battle. I thank GOD for you and pray for you all in Moscow.
Yeah, I heard about it from an unbeliever. So if we don't read Vice, that's fine and well, but it'll still shape the world's perception of Christ Church.
"They want a world in which 15 different people tell 15 different lies about somebody and that is treated as being the equivalent to 15 different witnesses to the same incident telling the truth about somebody." No, one would be fine. So, are all the charges false? Are you saying that anytime anyone makes a charge against Christ Church it is necessarily false?
Check out the Controversy Library on Doug's blog for a litany of his personal charges, everything from 'I deny that slavery was a positive good' - who be having ambiguity around this?! to 'I deny that I said homosexuals should be executed' - he just acknowledges the bible indicates that, execution or exile, but he would rather they be born again, provided they stop all that gay stuff. His strange attempts at refutation by quoting himself are particularly entertaining, especially the one under 'I deny that I am a plagiarist', which is almost entirely quoted words of someone else.
Meanwhile, where did the 3 blind mice from Crosspolitic go? Probably just gestating and re-solidifying. Gee I hope so. I love watching and inspecting that Talibanesque display.
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial Wow! They got kicked off!? I'm not even for that. The best way to expose fundamentalist fanatics is to let them do it themselves. Not wise by the youtube.
Gotta say, I'm pretty suspicious of anyone who, instead of just denying the accusations against them, resorts to some kind of meta-meta-meta(??? I think--honestly, it's at such an abstract and removed level of discourse I honestly have no idea what, in the concrete world, it's referring to) level of discourse to try to--um, I think???--discredit the accusations???? (Sincerely, if anyone can help me out here to get a grounding on what, in terms of concrete reference to the real world this guy is talking about, I'd be grateful). "Responses and then there are responses. At this point, we have not seen the need to get into the details to answer these scurrilous charges..." English, please. So...yes or no? Looks really good when someone accuses you of something to start contesting the ability of the English language to make clear accusations. The use of English by Vice is pretty clear. Are the charges true or not? If not, why not sue? I would. It must be affecting your bottom line. Also, clearing it up in court would be a clear way to establish victory...so, lawsuits? Let's wait and see.
I get that Doug hurt your feelings by calling out Biblical sin & you not being smart enough to understand any of what he's saying, but is it reaaaally necessary for you to post from what I've seen about 10 different comments on this video? C'mon man, surely there are better things to do than leveling more unsubstantiated accusations at people, calling people walruses & judging sumbuddy on their grammatical errors 🤔 Live a little man, It's pretty fun out here 😁
They address just about every accusation under the sun. There are links in another post. It's pretty easy to find if you care to look. I suspect that no denial will be sufficient for folks who have already made up their mind. After all the denials have been on the record for some time yet here we are.
@@johnlocke6800 Doug addresses his various accusations with links to quotes from himself, and his warlike metaphors of ‘flak around the plane if you’re over the target’ look pretty pale and sad when you see his list of ‘I deny I am a plagiarist’ and ‘I deny I said homosexuals should die’ and ‘I deny that I said slavery was a positive sin’ - like why on earth is there ambiguity around this myriad unpleasantness! I don’t know anyone else who has to have a part of their website with links to times they’ve not been directly racist in order to refute whether or not they said slavery was positive. And none of those ‘controversies’ is even what the vice article is about - which is marital rape and the Kirk’s implicit and explicit acceptance of it. ‘A man can’t trespass in his own garden’, as Nancy Wilson wrote in one of her books.
@A Allen Untrue. There are links directly address the issues stated in this article. They are from the minutes of the board of elders at Christ Church. Believe them or not they do address these accusations. Now regarding your statement that you are not aware of other folks who have to say that they do not believe that slavery was a positive sin (to use one of your examples). I expect that if anyone were to write on the topic of slavery, with any level of nuance, they would have to make similar statements in short order. Having read Black and Tan a couple times I feel I both understand why Wilson wrote it why he was compelled to make such an asinine statement as "slavery was not a positive sin". It wasn't because people took the time to read or understand what he was saying in the first place.
There is actually a... 'news service'... called - the daily beast? Had to google to confirm. Can't but help wonder if they are developing a 7 year business plan.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". :)
Calvin said, “The pastor ought to have two voices: one, for gathering the sheep; and another, for warding off and driving away wolves and thieves." It is such a comforting thing to see a pastor use that "other" voice. Well played Mr. Wilson, like a sheepdog.
@@calvinsaxon5822 u must have never seen doug Wilson and christ church's sermons they post online, yes they talk about current events but to act like they don't preach eternal timeless truth is nonsense
Right, no need to actually respond to the truth of the accusations. All I know is that if someone accused me or my organization of these things (advocating rape), I would not only deny the accusations but would sue. So, lawsuits? If not, why not? It should be pretty easy to establish that the accusations are not true if they are not true.
@@calvinsaxon5822 Not sure it’s really a good use of time and resources to file a lawsuit. If a lawsuit was filed, the critics would just say it was unbiblical to sue .
@@calvinsaxon5822 found the vice reader 😂 ... Mate you're on every upvoted comment here making some snarky remark. Doug clearly explained why he addressed this the way he did. Your agenda is clear & no one is taking you seriously..
The staff of Vice, the author and their readers are now on my prayer list. There's a God-shaped void in every human and squashing it and lashing out doesn't bring one the inner peace we all crave.
Vice has gone so far to the extreme that I think most of vices consumers are getting disinterested in them. When wokeness becomes mainstream, then it’s not cool anymore.
Maybe do check it out though Kenneth.. You can ignore all their adjectives, it's mostly testimony from current and ex-members of the Kirk and Logos school, including several credible allegations of marital rape having been implicitly and tacitly excused by the community, with those who left the Kirk as a result finding themselves the victims of online and in person harassment campaigns.
...I just read it...much of it is the expected Patriarchal Panic...but it is still somewhat informative regarding Pastor Wilson's pirate style pietistic approach to preaching and pastoring...from the point of view of petulant pew sitters...
Sorry to hear this happened, not surprising, though. If anyone can handle it with finesse and godliness, it's Pastor Doug, his Family and Church Family. You know what they say about "flak and targets". Prayers for you all.
@@calvinsaxon5822 Err, if you are blaming Doug for quoting the title of a Vice article, aren't then just as guilty for repeating it? You know, equal weights and measures, not being a hypocrite, and all that? Or is hatred for Doug an excuse before God for slander?
I have been very disappointed with many influential Christian "leaders" (pastors, theologians, seminary professors, authors, etc.) over the past two years. It is not my intention to judge motives but it certainly appears through their actions that many respected Christian leaders have become more concerned with being loved by the world rather than to actually be loving to the world. The world hates truth and yet telling them the truth is the most loving thing a Christian can do. Matt 10:22 (NIV) "You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." It is my belief that we are losing our country becasue of what belivers are doing not bescaue of what unbelievers are doing. And for that reason I respect Doug Wilson very much for holding the line and standing firm for the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@arminius504 You’re wrong he’s not a Vice reader. He’s a vice employee. And probably practices all the things Vice encourages as well. Like “sticking things down the peehole” allegedly. See, we can make accusations also! But open our case, the accusations will probably turn out true.
@@lesterchua2677 Not sure about this peehole stuff, but better handjobs for all seems like the Lord's work. Lester, just wanted to check if you had consulted the article about the accusations you're denying?
I don’t agree with everything you teach, biblically, as I believe you are in error on some points. But I will stand with on the battlefield any minute of the day. You answer this beautifully correctly and biblically. We need to give these revealer‘s the word of God which is Jesus Christ himself. It does not come back void. If they don’t understand or don’t want to believe that it is true, that we are strangers and pilgrims, and we are not meant for this world but only to win the race the Jesus except before us and our eternal home is not here. There will come much persecution in the next years in this country. I’ll gladly stand with you through all of it even though I am not a member of your congregation. May God be with you always.
When I listened to this piece , which was great, “I can see that you guys didn’t get dressed up for nothing”, I remembered watching the seasons change from a jail window, sentenced to two years for walking a girl across the street in front of an abortion mill. The memory I speak of was working out with, doing Bible studies with, and counseling inmates while living with them and seeing the humility and brokenness of many over the gospel. My son-in-law “Introduced me” to you shortly after the corona fantasy got rolling. You are a scrapper that loves Christ and even though I sometimes have to pause and look up words, yours is probably the main show or whatever it’s called, that I listen to now. I and I’m kind of sitting here wondering what name would be good for you if you were one of the characters that Pilgrim encountered. Godspeed brother.
@@aallen5256 No, there were some Christians there trying to help save babies, I was one of them, and there was A girl over on the clinic side of the street and I knew the antifa/homosexual group was coming and I wasn’t prepared to watch them spit on her kick her and spray AIDS-infected urine kind of thing, 80s. So I I asked her if I could walk her over to where we were and an officer grabbed me and stuffed me in a police car. It’s a much longer story than that but But after being in jail a while and getting to go to court, I knew things weren’t going to go well when they wouldn’t let me use the Bible in my defense. I very politely said to the judge “but you just let me swearing on one”. That was the end of my case and it was back to my cell for around six months.
@@rescuetweak Hmm still some confusion here.. Someone was trying to access a sexual health clinic, and you were there as a Christian protesting against abortions. But then you felt you had to protect the person trying to access this clinic from antifa / gay people you knew were coming? Surely if antifa / gay people were there they would be supporting the clinic / protesting against your protest! Why would they spit on someone trying to access reproductive healthcare services?! Also, HIV is a really fragile virus that cannot survive outside the body for long, and cannot be transmitted through sweat, saliva or urine. Hopefully you at least got a public defender! In lieu of biblical defense.
@@arminius504 Christians fighting evil is good with everyone, but Doug even did this video responding to testimony of marital rape survivors with one of his self-published books front facing at his right hand - clearly he’s interested in profits
I haven't watched the video yet, but I am here from someone talking about the VICE piece. The ironic things is that these kinds of pieces tend to have the opposite impact that they wish to have. The corporate journalists write these "hit" pieces to make someone they don't like seem radioactive and then when people (who haven't had their critical thinking skills propagated out of them) come and see for themselves what the "offender" is actually saying, they tend to stick around because (most of the time) they make a lot of sense. You're doing God's work, Doug. Take care and God bless.
Congratulations! If you are being targeted by Vice, you are doing the right thing. Remember, the woke crowd and cancel culture will come for us all at some point. If they don't come for you, it's time to reexamine where you stand.
I am a religious Jew, I am traditional but not Orthodox. I am more than a little tired of seeing so many of my co-religionists fully embracing the immoral leftist nonsense that seems to be the new norm. Thank you so much for standing up!
I rescind my prior comment for want to not step in a quagmire. I agree with the post at face value for responding to the a hit piece by a publication I find ridiculous. I don’t know anything about the back story and after perusing a few articles about it and this Sitler fella…I’m not putting my foot in that. God have mercy on us. May his justice shine where it must. May we have clear, truthful speech.
Modern day Luther! Remember Luther’s treatment of Erasmus… “The scholar Roland Bainton concluded, “Erasmus was by conviction a neutral in an age intolerant of neutrality.”… “It was this non-committal attitude that caused Luther to famously say, “Erasmus is an eel. Only Christ can grab him.” “Absolute certainty was of paramount importance to Luther, who tended to think in terms of harsh dichotomies.”
Satan has minions everywhere, and many professing 'christians' willing to believe his lies. Also, as we have seen many times, no matter how often and how firmly you state you position, many have been so blinded that they'll refuse to believe it. I appreciate you, Pastor Doug. God has made you a blessing to many.
God bless you! Praying that the Lord keeps on granting you all the courage it takes to be a strong leader. Christians who read that dreadful article recognize the source of those fiery darts. I know I did.
Stand firm! Y’all have got a lot of support- the hecklers are just louder sometimes. Big sifting happening and more will come to Christ through your faithfulness. Flaming darts being thrown- shield of faith goes up!
Whoa, demons attacked Doug? This is indicative of how effectual of a hound Doug is. Let those metaphors, idioms and clarity about sin keep barking and biting till it hurts. Bravo, Pastor Doug!
Yes, and God knows there are a lot of metaphors. In fact, if there's anything he's a master of, it's turning any accusations of wrongdoing into a convoluted mess of metaphors, nearly impossible to untangle, instead of speaking of concrete facts.
I appreciate a brother's voice. I am a Sunday school teacher who has taught on many of the subjects you cover. I have only recently found your site and do enjoy it very much. I attend the Nazarene Church and live in Missouri. I have referred your site to any that might value my opinion. Thanks again brother.
Barna survey says only 6% of professing Christians hold orthodox beliefs. We're not saved by belief, but we must know the One in whom we believe. Most evangelicals are not citizens of heaven.
That’s about right! 6%. I have known so many who departed from the faith and many who hold heretical beliefs. And every single one of them were in or are in Evanjellycal churches
I’ve had a similar experience in my ex local church. Whatever happened to Christians believing Jesus when he told us not to be surprised when the world would hate us for following him??
Dear Doug, May our good and faithful Father protect you, continue to give you wisdom, and allow you to stand firmly in His perfect word. Did you know that you have family in Louisiana? Well you do, and your teaching and leadership have blessed us and strengthened us for many years now. Your commentary reminded me of the kind of commentary that Luther, Knox, and Paul himself might have delivered to kings and yeoman sinners alike. It has never changed, because truth has never changed. There is more that I’d like to say, but I will just say this: You, Nancy, your children, and Christ Kirk are a beacon right now for so very many brothers and sisters in Christ around the world and for those who are being called to salvation! It stands to reason that because you are such a bright light, it makes you an easier target for the evil one. Nothing has changed in that regard, but we thank you and the handful of other leaders like you who are standing in the truth, and we are praying for y’all now more than ever! God bless you, Cajun Cousin!
The sexual revolution has spawned unimaginable deviancy. Western culture should be so proud. I haven't read the article but I do trust Mr.Wilson and whole heartily distrust the media. I remember the days when they would present the "facts" and let the reader decide. The wokities never mention two things, peace and repentance. Which makes me think they are bent on destruction.
Well done. God continue to give strength and victory to those who refuse to bend the knee to slander. That 9th commandment tho. Never knew 20 years ago how relevant it would become.
@@calvinsaxon5822 that's quite a loving correction to my grammar and or spelling...........I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume your an un believer trying to bait one of us "horrible" followers of Christ. Or at the very least, your bitter...... May God bless you too, Oh, and to Awnser your loaded question Only one book matters, well I guess it's technically 66 but....... and I got a gut feeling you call it hate speech......
👊🏾. Christians will be persecuted but only the true converts with a strong conviction for the love and truth of Christ, retaining their salt and preserving the morality of God. The false converts who have no saltiness, the world care not to persecute them for they are on the same side with the world and the spirit of the Antichrist at work in the world.
Pastor Doug, don't you dare apologize to anyone or shrink back in any way (not that I believe you would)! You have the support and prayers of biblical Christians who put God's glory over the fear and fancies of men!
Anyone with a thought in their head will know that any pastor that the pagans hate is probably a good sign the pastor is a Biblical pastor who doesn’t back down.
Right. No need to actually investigate the truth of the matter, just determine whether the accusers match your current ideological definition of Satan.
@@calvinsaxon5822 any Christian with a brain knows Vice is satanic. There is no denying that. A hit piece is a hit piece and your hatred won’t change that. Doug has written on it. If you are too lazy to read his work then stop crying about it you Vice reader...
@@arminius504 but how do you know it’s a hit piece if you’ve not even opened the article? All VICE did was interviewed 12 former and current church members and Logos students, what’s so scary about that - just read it
Doug, thank you for your warrior mentality in your teaching and preaching. I had the great privilege of sitting under your teaching in the early 80s. My then wife and I were students atU of I. I was on a Navy scholarship and ended up graduating in 84 and becoming a Navy pilot after. My oldest son turned me back on to you. So cool how God does things. He is a special agent with NCIS in Hawaii now raising 4 beautiful girls in the fear and admonition of our Lord. What you taught me in college I passed on to him as a father. You can google or RUclips his name Jesse Whitten on GMA. Wonderful story. You had a part in that Doug. So stay on target 🎯. I’m praying for you.
God bless you and your church, Pastor Doug. Using such a well-deserved rebuke and then concluding with the scandal of Jesus' sacrifice is wonderful to witness. Thank you for your faithfulness.
Well said sir! I read that article and it honestly shook and doubted me for a few minutes. I remembered your book How to Exasperate your wife and other essays for men and had to remember how honoring and helpful the scriptures and wisdom in there have helped me view and serve in my marriage and how nothing of the sort could have been promoted by your work. Thank you for being a stonewall in the muck of the world sir, and please keep making these videos as they encourage me in standing against the flow
Good for you for reading the article Casey, I did too, and I’m glad Doug’s work may have helped you serve in your marriage but based on the testimony in the article something had definitely created an atmosphere at the Kirk which lead to multiple instances of marital rape, right?
@@user-mx3kh8rj1t I can only recommend you read the article to make up your own mind. They talk to twelve separate current or ex-members of the Kirk / Logos. There's really nothing to suggest these people were paid at all. And, not unlike Dr Ford, by disclosing their experiences they only open themselves up to a proper onslaught of suspicion! Can't really speak to the Kavanaugh case but I haven't read any evidence she was paid either, and even Judge Kavanaugh did not doubt her sincerity, denying the charge but saying in testimony he was “not questioning that Dr Ford may have been sexually assaulted by some person in some place at some time”.
@@user-mx3kh8rj1t again, can only recommend you read the article. Make up your mind for yourself, but don’t make up your mind before you’ve actually read it!
I have a morbid curiosity to read the article, I do not want to give them any unnecessary traffic. I'll take your word for it. Thank you for showing somebody like me how to use the Gospel as an answer to all things.
Brother, keep at the battle! I am encouraged by your decent but unwavering testimony - oh, and keep it tart! Γρηγορεῖτε στήκετε εν τη πίστει ανδρίζεσθε κραταιούσθε. πάντα υμών εν αγάπη γινέσθω.
Doug Wilson, thank you for this. In a world of low tes, sniveling, capitulating 'Christian' men, you are a man I can emulate. Excellently handled. God bless you for loving Christ and the truth.
“Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.”
The article seems to be written by someone whose 'research' only involved the Moscow Idaho subreddit (a subreddit with a few individuals whose only objective in life is to slander CC). Spewing the same lies and spreading the same misinformation about things that were already cleared out by the church elders and DW.
@@RangerMcFriendly Yeah twitter is also insane. The people on reddit seem to be more organized and determined though, they have compiled a list of all the businesses owned by CC members and are encouraging everyone to boycott them.
New to your site. Trying to listen to this, but I can't follow your rapid-fire run-on monotone talking (reading aloud?). It's not natural. Maybe playing at 75% speed will help. Or if you have a file to download for reading,. So that I can digest what you are saying.
I’m sorry that you were slandered by Vice, but even more so that so called brothers and sister in Christ took up and carried on this disgraceful action, often without first examinating the facts involved, Pastor Doug. Even when you’re fighting the good fight you’re going to get hit occasionally, you just don’t expect it to come from those that claim to be in your corner, often in the back.
Here I am, listening to this for probably the seventh time. The concluding sentences about the scandalous nature of salvation grip me Every. Single. Time.
Physical salt brings to people's tongues the other flavors of the food we salt with more intensity. Verbal spiritual salt brings love with more intensity to those who recognize the healing power of love and it's need to sometimes salt the wounds sin has caused in order have the wounded realize their wounds aren't from the love of God or the salt but the sins.
You should feel honored, Doug!! Looks like you are doing things right, since the world hates you. Remember , they love JD and his ilk. We love yall and are standing with yall! Nothing better than faithful men. I am rejoicing right now. May God continue to use you so mightily!!
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"at least they didn't accuse me of sticking things down my pee-hole" Doug Wilson 2021
The levity of this sarcasm up to and including it's source is certainly a weather vane of sorts for the time...
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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I don't know anyone I admire and respect more than I do Nancy and Doug Wilson. THANK YOU for being on the front line of the battle. I thank GOD for you and pray for you all in Moscow.
Truth in love...well done.
Praying for those who have hated Christ before they ever hated The Bride. Good take pastor.
We need more men and pastors like you, brother Doug. Thank you
Huh, vice did a thing eh? I didn't notice. God bless.
A lot of other people did.
@E Doug did, which is why you're here.. cheering and flagellating for the Kirk.
Vice website traffic shows nearly 350m monthly unique visitors.
Yeah, I heard about it from an unbeliever. So if we don't read Vice, that's fine and well, but it'll still shape the world's perception of Christ Church.
That was a humdinger brother. Keep your face like flint.
The good thing is that it was Vice, which means no one with an opinion worth caring about will read it.
The accuser be accusing
"They want a world in which 15 different people tell 15 different lies about somebody and that is treated as being the equivalent to 15 different witnesses to the same incident telling the truth about somebody." No, one would be fine. So, are all the charges false? Are you saying that anytime anyone makes a charge against Christ Church it is necessarily false?
Check out the Controversy Library on Doug's blog for a litany of his personal charges, everything from 'I deny that slavery was a positive good' - who be having ambiguity around this?! to 'I deny that I said homosexuals should be executed' - he just acknowledges the bible indicates that, execution or exile, but he would rather they be born again, provided they stop all that gay stuff. His strange attempts at refutation by quoting himself are particularly entertaining, especially the one under 'I deny that I am a plagiarist', which is almost entirely quoted words of someone else.
This video is a huge distraction. Stankorb is a brave woman. Doug Wilson must address this head on. He's playing games.
Apart from your comment, the sycophantic reactions to this video are bizarre.
He's a coward. His MO is run, hide, distract.
Meanwhile, where did the 3 blind mice from Crosspolitic go? Probably just gestating and re-solidifying. Gee I hope so. I love watching and inspecting that Talibanesque display.
You can hear them on their app and fb. RUclips kicked them off.
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial Wow! They got kicked off!? I'm not even for that. The best way to expose fundamentalist fanatics is to let them do it themselves.
Not wise by the youtube.
@@Lombokstrait1 Lol... Fundamentalist Fanatics, Talibanesque. You got the attention you were seeking little buddy
Gotta say, I'm pretty suspicious of anyone who, instead of just denying the accusations against them, resorts to some kind of meta-meta-meta(??? I think--honestly, it's at such an abstract and removed level of discourse I honestly have no idea what, in the concrete world, it's referring to) level of discourse to try to--um, I think???--discredit the accusations???? (Sincerely, if anyone can help me out here to get a grounding on what, in terms of concrete reference to the real world this guy is talking about, I'd be grateful). "Responses and then there are responses. At this point, we have not seen the need to get into the details to answer these scurrilous charges..." English, please. So...yes or no? Looks really good when someone accuses you of something to start contesting the ability of the English language to make clear accusations. The use of English by Vice is pretty clear. Are the charges true or not? If not, why not sue? I would. It must be affecting your bottom line. Also, clearing it up in court would be a clear way to establish victory...so, lawsuits? Let's wait and see.
I get that Doug hurt your feelings by calling out Biblical sin & you not being smart enough to understand any of what he's saying, but is it reaaaally necessary for you to post from what I've seen about 10 different comments on this video?
C'mon man, surely there are better things to do than leveling more unsubstantiated accusations at people, calling people walruses & judging sumbuddy on their grammatical errors 🤔
Live a little man,
It's pretty fun out here 😁
They address just about every accusation under the sun. There are links in another post. It's pretty easy to find if you care to look.
I suspect that no denial will be sufficient for folks who have already made up their mind. After all the denials have been on the record for some time yet here we are.
Gaslighting wrapped up in fancy language is still gaslighting.
@@johnlocke6800 Doug addresses his various accusations with links to quotes from himself, and his warlike metaphors of ‘flak around the plane if you’re over the target’ look pretty pale and sad when you see his list of ‘I deny I am a plagiarist’ and ‘I deny I said homosexuals should die’ and ‘I deny that I said slavery was a positive sin’ - like why on earth is there ambiguity around this myriad unpleasantness! I don’t know anyone else who has to have a part of their website with links to times they’ve not been directly racist in order to refute whether or not they said slavery was positive. And none of those ‘controversies’ is even what the vice article is about - which is marital rape and the Kirk’s implicit and explicit acceptance of it. ‘A man can’t trespass in his own garden’, as Nancy Wilson wrote in one of her books.
@A Allen Untrue. There are links directly address the issues stated in this article. They are from the minutes of the board of elders at Christ Church. Believe them or not they do address these accusations.
Now regarding your statement that you are not aware of other folks who have to say that they do not believe that slavery was a positive sin (to use one of your examples). I expect that if anyone were to write on the topic of slavery, with any level of nuance, they would have to make similar statements in short order.
Having read Black and Tan a couple times I feel I both understand why Wilson wrote it why he was compelled to make such an asinine statement as "slavery was not a positive sin". It wasn't because people took the time to read or understand what he was saying in the first place.
I find all the best Christian leaders today by observing who the Daily Beast attacks. That's how I found Pastor Wilson.
The media is the mouth of Satan.
There is actually a... 'news service'...
called - the daily beast? Had to google to confirm. Can't but help wonder if they are developing a 7 year business plan.
Hi Fozzy. You were great in the Muppets.
@@rockycomet4587 Waka waka waka!
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
:)
Calvin said, “The pastor ought to have two voices: one, for gathering the sheep; and another, for warding off and driving away wolves and thieves." It is such a comforting thing to see a pastor use that "other" voice. Well played Mr. Wilson, like a sheepdog.
The problem is that this is the only voice in Christ Church. It's nothing but a culture war mentality.
@@calvinsaxon5822 Nonsense
@@calvinsaxon5822 u must have never seen doug Wilson and christ church's sermons they post online, yes they talk about current events but to act like they don't preach eternal timeless truth is nonsense
Maybe the Good Shepherd shouldn't have created and ordained wolves to be wolves.
@@calvinsaxon5822
Christians are frequently depicted as soldiers in Scripture. So what was your comment about culture war again?
What's better? The sound of a Doug Wilson rant, or the distant sound of his enemies gnashing their teeth?
A hit piece being written by VICE is unequivocal proof that one is earnestly carrying out the righteous work of Christ's eternal Kingdom.
No it’s not.
@@rutatutut excellent counterpoint
Right, no need to actually respond to the truth of the accusations. All I know is that if someone accused me or my organization of these things (advocating rape), I would not only deny the accusations but would sue. So, lawsuits? If not, why not? It should be pretty easy to establish that the accusations are not true if they are not true.
@@calvinsaxon5822 Not sure it’s really a good use of time and resources to file a lawsuit. If a lawsuit was filed, the critics would just say it was unbiblical to sue .
@@calvinsaxon5822 found the vice reader 😂 ... Mate you're on every upvoted comment here making some snarky remark. Doug clearly explained why he addressed this the way he did. Your agenda is clear & no one is taking you seriously..
The staff of Vice, the author and their readers are now on my prayer list. There's a God-shaped void in every human and squashing it and lashing out doesn't bring one the inner peace we all crave.
Vice has gone so far to the extreme that I think most of vices consumers are getting disinterested in them. When wokeness becomes mainstream, then it’s not cool anymore.
When they tell you they are for “Vice”. Believe them. Even Satan will not tell you he is for hell.
I've not heard of the Vice article, but what Christian with any sense of Scripture would ever give them any credibility?
Maybe do check it out though Kenneth.. You can ignore all their adjectives, it's mostly testimony from current and ex-members of the Kirk and Logos school, including several credible allegations of marital rape having been implicitly and tacitly excused by the community, with those who left the Kirk as a result finding themselves the victims of online and in person harassment campaigns.
...I just read it...much of it is the expected Patriarchal Panic...but it is still somewhat informative regarding Pastor Wilson's pirate style pietistic approach to preaching and pastoring...from the point of view of petulant pew sitters...
Sorry to hear this happened, not surprising, though. If anyone can handle it with finesse and godliness, it's Pastor Doug, his Family and Church Family. You know what they say about "flak and targets". Prayers for you all.
Yes, wow, God knows, if anything, Pastor Doug--he, of the "Down my peehole" comment--is able to handle things with finesse and godliness.
@@calvinsaxon5822 Err, if you are blaming Doug for quoting the title of a Vice article, aren't then just as guilty for repeating it? You know, equal weights and measures, not being a hypocrite, and all that? Or is hatred for Doug an excuse before God for slander?
I have been very disappointed with many influential Christian "leaders" (pastors, theologians, seminary professors, authors, etc.) over the past two years. It is not my intention to judge motives but it certainly appears through their actions that many respected Christian leaders have become more concerned with being loved by the world rather than to actually be loving to the world. The world hates truth and yet telling them the truth is the most loving thing a Christian can do. Matt 10:22 (NIV) "You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."
It is my belief that we are losing our country becasue of what belivers are doing not bescaue of what unbelievers are doing. And for that reason I respect Doug Wilson very much for holding the line and standing firm for the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
Vice's idea of journalism is sending someone high on LSD to a dog show. Does anyone even take them serious?
So, accusations...true or not?
@@calvinsaxon5822found the Vice reader. Read Dougs work but you don’t want to. You want to be an accuser and do the bidding of Vice.
@@arminius504 You’re wrong he’s not a Vice reader. He’s a vice employee. And probably practices all the things Vice encourages as well. Like “sticking things down the peehole” allegedly. See, we can make accusations also!
But open our case, the accusations will probably turn out true.
@@lesterchua2677 Not sure about this peehole stuff, but better handjobs for all seems like the Lord's work.
Lester, just wanted to check if you had consulted the article about the accusations you're denying?
I'm glad Doug Wilson exists.
Me too! He puts out some very good material.
Here! here!
Yes, hooray for bloviating walruses.
@@calvinsaxon5822 stay mad or better find Christ
Me too.
I don’t agree with everything you teach, biblically, as I believe you are in error on some points. But I will stand with on the battlefield any minute of the day. You answer this beautifully correctly and biblically. We need to give these revealer‘s the word of God which is Jesus Christ himself. It does not come back void. If they don’t understand or don’t want to believe that it is true, that we are strangers and pilgrims, and we are not meant for this world but only to win the race the Jesus except before us and our eternal home is not here. There will come much persecution in the next years in this country. I’ll gladly stand with you through all of it even though I am not a member of your congregation. May God be with you always.
When I listened to this piece , which was great, “I can see that you guys didn’t get dressed up for nothing”, I remembered watching the seasons change from a jail window, sentenced to two years for walking a girl across the street in front of an abortion mill. The memory I speak of was working out with, doing Bible studies with, and counseling inmates while living with them and seeing the humility and brokenness of many over the gospel. My son-in-law “Introduced me” to you shortly after the corona fantasy got rolling. You are a scrapper that loves Christ and even though I sometimes have to pause and look up words, yours is probably the main show or whatever it’s called, that I listen to now. I and I’m kind of sitting here wondering what name would be good for you if you were one of the characters that Pilgrim encountered. Godspeed brother.
You got two years for jaywalking??
@@aallen5256 No, there were some Christians there trying to help save babies, I was one of them, and there was A girl over on the clinic side of the street and I knew the antifa/homosexual group was coming and I wasn’t prepared to watch them spit on her kick her and spray AIDS-infected urine kind of thing, 80s. So I I asked her if I could walk her over to where we were and an officer grabbed me and stuffed me in a police car. It’s a much longer story than that but But after being in jail a while and getting to go to court, I knew things weren’t going to go well when they wouldn’t let me use the Bible in my defense. I very politely said to the judge “but you just let me swearing on one”. That was the end of my case and it was back to my cell for around six months.
@@rescuetweak Hmm still some confusion here.. Someone was trying to access a sexual health clinic, and you were there as a Christian protesting against abortions. But then you felt you had to protect the person trying to access this clinic from antifa / gay people you knew were coming? Surely if antifa / gay people were there they would be supporting the clinic / protesting against your protest! Why would they spit on someone trying to access reproductive healthcare services?! Also, HIV is a really fragile virus that cannot survive outside the body for long, and cannot be transmitted through sweat, saliva or urine. Hopefully you at least got a public defender! In lieu of biblical defense.
We need more wise, strong and articulate pastors like Doug.
He's such a bloviating walrus who is literally profiting from culture war.
@@calvinsaxon5822 if you don’t think that Christians need to fight evil then you are lost.
@@arminius504 Christians fighting evil is good with everyone, but Doug even did this video responding to testimony of marital rape survivors with one of his self-published books front facing at his right hand - clearly he’s interested in profits
@@aallen5256 you are about as ridiculous as the culture we live in.
@@John-vj6ss Uhoh you’ve given Doug a bunch of your money haven’t you..
I haven't watched the video yet, but I am here from someone talking about the VICE piece. The ironic things is that these kinds of pieces tend to have the opposite impact that they wish to have. The corporate journalists write these "hit" pieces to make someone they don't like seem radioactive and then when people (who haven't had their critical thinking skills propagated out of them) come and see for themselves what the "offender" is actually saying, they tend to stick around because (most of the time) they make a lot of sense.
You're doing God's work, Doug. Take care and God bless.
Praying for you Pastor Doug and Nancy. Your ministry has been a blessing to me and my family afar.
Same here!!
Congratulations! If you are being targeted by Vice, you are doing the right thing. Remember, the woke crowd and cancel culture will come for us all at some point. If they don't come for you, it's time to reexamine where you stand.
I'm here for the truth. The citrus juice is a nice cherry on top.
If Vice is doing a hit piece on your church, your church is probably doing something right.
I am a religious Jew, I am traditional but not Orthodox. I am more than a little tired of seeing so many of my co-religionists fully embracing the immoral leftist nonsense that seems to be the new norm. Thank you so much for standing up!
I rescind my prior comment for want to not step in a quagmire.
I agree with the post at face value for responding to the a hit piece by a publication I find ridiculous.
I don’t know anything about the back story and after perusing a few articles about it and this
Sitler fella…I’m not putting my foot in that.
God have mercy on us. May his justice shine where it must. May we have clear, truthful speech.
May the triune God strengthen you, Doug. You are treasured.
You know you’re over the target when…
It seems you’re irritating the people who need to be irritated.
I don’t think you read the article Edward, you’re being very smug over the collected accounts of marital rape survivors
Modern day Luther! Remember Luther’s treatment of Erasmus…
“The scholar Roland Bainton concluded, “Erasmus was by conviction a neutral in an age intolerant of neutrality.”… “It was this non-committal attitude that caused Luther to famously say, “Erasmus is an eel. Only Christ can grab him.” “Absolute certainty was of paramount importance to Luther, who tended to think in terms of harsh dichotomies.”
Jay, this is a fantastic response!
Satan has minions everywhere, and many professing 'christians' willing to believe his lies. Also, as we have seen many times, no matter how often and how firmly you state you position, many have been so blinded that they'll refuse to believe it. I appreciate you, Pastor Doug. God has made you a blessing to many.
God bless you! Praying that the Lord keeps on granting you all the courage it takes to be a strong leader. Christians who read that dreadful article recognize the source of those fiery darts. I know I did.
The source of 'those fiery darts' are ex-members of the Kirk who suffered marital rape among other abuses..
Stand firm! Y’all have got a lot of support- the hecklers are just louder sometimes. Big sifting happening and more will come to Christ through your faithfulness. Flaming darts being thrown- shield of faith goes up!
Whoa, demons attacked Doug? This is indicative of how effectual of a hound Doug is. Let those metaphors, idioms and clarity about sin keep barking and biting till it hurts. Bravo, Pastor Doug!
Yes, and God knows there are a lot of metaphors. In fact, if there's anything he's a master of, it's turning any accusations of wrongdoing into a convoluted mess of metaphors, nearly impossible to untangle, instead of speaking of concrete facts.
@@calvinsaxon5822 What wrong doing?
@@Zxuma the article was mostly testimony of marital rape which the abusers felt was tacitly and culturally endorsed within the Kirk
@@aallen5256 Lies
@@rockycomet4587 bored again? the devil makes work for idle hands..
I appreciate a brother's voice. I am a Sunday school teacher who has taught on many of the subjects you cover. I have only recently found your site and do enjoy it very much.
I attend the Nazarene Church and live in Missouri. I have referred your site to any that might value my opinion. Thanks again brother.
Barna survey says only 6% of professing Christians hold orthodox beliefs. We're not saved by belief, but we must know the One in whom we believe. Most evangelicals are not citizens of heaven.
That’s about right! 6%. I have known so many who departed from the faith and many who hold heretical beliefs. And every single one of them were in or are in Evanjellycal churches
I’ve had a similar experience in my ex local church.
Whatever happened to Christians believing Jesus when he told us not to be surprised when the world would hate us for following him??
Dear Doug,
May our good and faithful Father protect you, continue to give you wisdom, and allow you to stand firmly in His perfect word. Did you know that you have family in Louisiana? Well you do, and your teaching and leadership have blessed us and strengthened us for many years now. Your commentary reminded me of the kind of commentary that Luther, Knox, and Paul himself might have delivered to kings and yeoman sinners alike. It has never changed, because truth has never changed. There is more that I’d like to say, but I will just say this: You, Nancy, your children, and Christ Kirk are a beacon right now for so very many brothers and sisters in Christ around the world and for those who are being called to salvation! It stands to reason that because you are such a bright light, it makes you an easier target for the evil one. Nothing has changed in that regard, but we thank you and the handful of other leaders like you who are standing in the truth, and we are praying for y’all now more than ever! God bless you, Cajun Cousin!
Vice is going out of business.
They'll be gone soon.
The sexual revolution has spawned unimaginable deviancy. Western culture should be so proud. I haven't read the article but I do trust Mr.Wilson and whole heartily distrust the media. I remember the days when they would present the "facts" and let the reader decide. The wokities never mention two things, peace and repentance. Which makes me think they are bent on destruction.
Well done. God continue to give strength and victory to those who refuse to bend the knee to slander. That 9th commandment tho. Never knew 20 years ago how relevant it would become.
Every one of these posts is a carefully crafted masterpiece. Keep on keeping on!!!
Thank you for sharing the C.S. Lewis quote!
God bless you!
hey, vice doing a hit piece means your doing the right thing!
You mean "you're", not "your". So, on a compleeeeeeeeeeeetely unrelated topic, have you ever read an actual entire book in your life? Just curious.
@@calvinsaxon5822 that's quite a loving correction to my grammar and or spelling...........I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume your an un believer trying to bait one of us "horrible" followers of Christ.
Or at the very least, your bitter......
May God bless you too,
Oh, and to Awnser your loaded question
Only one book matters, well I guess it's technically 66 but.......
and I got a gut feeling you call it hate speech......
If only all pastors could have half the unvarnished stones that Doug Wilson possesses.
Doug, never diminish your vocabulary in order to appease the troglodytes!
👊🏾.
Christians will be persecuted but only the true converts with a strong conviction for the love and truth of Christ, retaining their salt and preserving the morality of God. The false converts who have no saltiness, the world care not to persecute them for they are on the same side with the world and the spirit of the Antichrist at work in the world.
Pastor Doug, don't you dare apologize to anyone or shrink back in any way (not that I believe you would)! You have the support and prayers of biblical Christians who put God's glory over the fear and fancies of men!
Thank them for the free publicity, share the gospel, pray and love them anyway.
Doug Wilson bringing the 🔥
excellent words from an excellent shepherd! Thank you for contending for the faith without any compromise!
The fools will always expose their folly. Thank God for Godly Man like Pastor Doug. Get em Brother!
Anyone with a thought in their head will know that any pastor that the pagans hate is probably a good sign the pastor is a Biblical pastor who doesn’t back down.
Right. No need to actually investigate the truth of the matter, just determine whether the accusers match your current ideological definition of Satan.
@@calvinsaxon5822 any Christian with a brain knows Vice is satanic. There is no denying that. A hit piece is a hit piece and your hatred won’t change that. Doug has written on it. If you are too lazy to read his work then stop crying about it you Vice reader...
@@arminius504 but how do you know it’s a hit piece if you’ve not even opened the article? All VICE did was interviewed 12 former and current church members and Logos students, what’s so scary about that - just read it
Continue to keep it 💯 Brotha Doug👊🏽
November came early. Doug had a 1 extra cup of coffee today!
Doug, thank you for your warrior mentality in your teaching and preaching. I had the great privilege of sitting under your teaching in the early 80s. My then wife and I were students atU of I. I was on a Navy scholarship and ended up graduating in 84 and becoming a Navy pilot after. My oldest son turned me back on to you. So cool how God does things. He is a special agent with NCIS in Hawaii now raising 4 beautiful girls in the fear and admonition of our Lord. What you taught me in college I passed on to him as a father. You can google or RUclips his name Jesse Whitten on GMA. Wonderful story. You had a part in that Doug. So stay on target 🎯. I’m praying for you.
God bless you and your church, Pastor Doug. Using such a well-deserved rebuke and then concluding with the scandal of Jesus' sacrifice is wonderful to witness. Thank you for your faithfulness.
This could not have been any better
Persevere! Your being effective influencing with Biblical Truth. That's why your a target.
Well said sir! I read that article and it honestly shook and doubted me for a few minutes. I remembered your book How to Exasperate your wife and other essays for men and had to remember how honoring and helpful the scriptures and wisdom in there have helped me view and serve in my marriage and how nothing of the sort could have been promoted by your work. Thank you for being a stonewall in the muck of the world sir, and please keep making these videos as they encourage me in standing against the flow
Good for you for reading the article Casey, I did too, and I’m glad Doug’s work may have helped you serve in your marriage but based on the testimony in the article something had definitely created an atmosphere at the Kirk which lead to multiple instances of marital rape, right?
@@user-mx3kh8rj1t I can only recommend you read the article to make up your own mind. They talk to twelve separate current or ex-members of the Kirk / Logos. There's really nothing to suggest these people were paid at all. And, not unlike Dr Ford, by disclosing their experiences they only open themselves up to a proper onslaught of suspicion!
Can't really speak to the Kavanaugh case but I haven't read any evidence she was paid either, and even Judge Kavanaugh did not doubt her sincerity, denying the charge but saying in testimony he was “not questioning that Dr Ford may have been sexually assaulted by some person in some place at some time”.
@@user-mx3kh8rj1t again, can only recommend you read the article. Make up your mind for yourself, but don’t make up your mind before you’ve actually read it!
I have a morbid curiosity to read the article, I do not want to give them any unnecessary traffic. I'll take your word for it. Thank you for showing somebody like me how to use the Gospel as an answer to all things.
Definitely obviously read the article! If only for your own curiosity
Brother, keep at the battle! I am encouraged by your decent but unwavering testimony - oh, and keep it tart!
Γρηγορεῖτε στήκετε εν τη πίστει ανδρίζεσθε κραταιούσθε. πάντα υμών εν αγάπη γινέσθω.
Doug Wilson, thank you for this. In a world of low tes, sniveling, capitulating 'Christian' men, you are a man I can emulate. Excellently handled. God bless you for loving Christ and the truth.
Awesome, as always.
“Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.”
This wouldn't have been published if Gavin McGuiness was still at the helm. He's in great danger of becoming a bold Christian himself.
Any other Calvin & Hobbes fans catch the reference? ;)
vice tred to stop a steam train with a sports car. thank you ps Wilson I have grown in christ because of you ministry.
The article seems to be written by someone whose 'research' only involved the Moscow Idaho subreddit (a subreddit with a few individuals whose only objective in life is to slander CC). Spewing the same lies and spreading the same misinformation about things that were already cleared out by the church elders and DW.
There is a subreddit?!? Geez. I had to deal with these whackadoodles on Twitter all the time where they would just belch out slander all day long.
@@RangerMcFriendly Yeah twitter is also insane. The people on reddit seem to be more organized and determined though, they have compiled a list of all the businesses owned by CC members and are encouraging everyone to boycott them.
17:49 Vile magazine sounds about right since they are after all revilers
To quote Doug from another place many years ago, this is "weapons grade gospel."
"If I didn't have scruples about cussing it would be 'hell no'" made me laugh
I have so much respect for Doug Wilson.
Love Doug Wilson. If he made a video on how to watch grass grow, I would watch it!
Thanks for standing up and standing true!
...this sick and dieing culture needs some serious push back....so keep it up!...
✊🏿☭🏳️🌈⚧🦏🔙🦍⚤✞🥩...
New to your site. Trying to listen to this, but I can't follow your rapid-fire run-on monotone talking (reading aloud?). It's not natural. Maybe playing at 75% speed will help. Or if you have a file to download for reading,. So that I can digest what you are saying.
I’m sorry that you were slandered by Vice, but even more so that so called brothers and sister in Christ took up and carried on this disgraceful action, often without first examinating the facts involved, Pastor Doug. Even when you’re fighting the good fight you’re going to get hit occasionally, you just don’t expect it to come from those that claim to be in your corner, often in the back.
When the flack is the heaviest that means you are right over the target.
Here I am, listening to this for probably the seventh time. The concluding sentences about the scandalous nature of salvation grip me Every. Single. Time.
You you said last week, if there's flak all around your plane you must be over the target. 😎
I’d be proud to have you as my pastor. 🇨🇦👍
"Your Cowardly + signs." - Hit them right in the teeth with that. Ouch.
Who were the prominent, respectable Christian leaders jumping in with Vice on this thing? I'm curious who they were and what they said.
lol. Like a true believer as always, brother Doug! Keep it up!
Preach
I love this man.
Wow it refers to past members as 'survivors' 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
🎂🌈Welcome to the Wedding Cake Tyranny☭✊🏿🏳️🌈⚧😷🤡...
Physical salt brings to people's tongues the other flavors of the food we salt with more intensity. Verbal spiritual salt brings love with more intensity to those who recognize the healing power of love and it's need to sometimes salt the wounds sin has caused in order have the wounded realize their wounds aren't from the love of God or the salt but the sins.
Good man. God bless and support your work, it is direly needed.
To quote The Chosen's John the Baptist, "YEAH!" 👍
You should feel honored, Doug!! Looks like you are doing things right, since the world hates you. Remember , they love JD and his ilk. We love yall and are standing with yall! Nothing better than faithful men. I am rejoicing right now. May God continue to use you so mightily!!
Don’t listen to the noise Pastor Wilson. Keep doing the Lord’s work!!!