This whole tarnish situation wouldn’t be so bizarre if Tudor’s marketing hadn’t claimed it doesn’t tarnish. For me personally, I don’t find a silver cased watch appealing.
Exactly!! If they just said from the start that it would tarnish even just a little bit everyone would be more than happy! Or even if Tudor would just give us pointers on how to care for it and acknowledge that something is happening. In the end I'm not angry with the situation, I would just like clarification
Yeah, but they would also have sold a lot less watches without that statement. It is a bit shady because I think they intentionally do not have such a Statement on the Official Website. They would have if they were really sure about it.
@@satai completely agree. Without the promise, no one would buy. Now Tudor needs to back it up. The policy should be pretty simple, if your watch tarnishes and you aren’t satisfied, you can exchange it for another Tudor. It’s not hard. I think this will end up being the “unofficial” policy. I will say that grey tarnish is super cool. Like I want that. I’d pay more for it!
@MrSatai I'm not so sure they would have sold a lot less if they just said "this new alloy is highly resistant to tarnish" which would set roughly the right expectations and leave Tudor some wiggle room. Fewer people would buy the 925 for sure but I think it would just be a matter of the wait-list being shorter 😂 Also I need to find a hot tub to soak bc I want to get that dark grey tarnish asap!!
Wow I was not expecting to see the eraser take off the tarnish that easily. Definitely good to know for maintenance! Also that fully tarnished 925 really does look awesome and hopefully you get it like that soon
I still can't believe it was that easy! Definitely the safest way to go about getting rid of the tarnish or at least touching it up. Yeah I want that tarnish so bad, I need to find someone with a hot tub asap!😂
I got mine about a month ago. When it first came out, I fell for it and decided that would make the perfect watch to wear for my wedding. I've tried it on twice, once at the shop and once when I got home to take some mandatory pics. I'm dreading the tarnish. I don't know enough about silver tarnish to know how much it'll change whilst it's locked away for another 8 months. All I know is that I bought into Tudors ”it won't tarnish, not in a million years” marketing, and now I'm debating selling it and putting the money towards something else before the tarnish sets it. I feel like I'm sitting on a wall, with owners one side showing and saying it does tarnish, and quickly. And Tudor on the other side saying “it will not tarnish”, “it won't tanish”, ”ours hasn't changed at all”, “our special silver will not tarnish ever!”. Unless they release the make up of their alloy, or provide something to back up their claims, I'm gonna start assuming Tudor is in denial
Sorry for the late reply but congratulations on the 925 and on your future wedding!! The 925 would be an awesome watch to wear for such a special occasion for sure! But I totally get where you're coming from given all the uncertainty that's surrounding the watch but if your 925 stays inside until your wedding there won't be any tarnish on it unless something crazy happens! Mine hasn't gone outside very much lately and the tarnish hasn't progressed at all pretty much. Additionally there are many owners out there who are wearing their 925s out and about quite often and they aren't reporting any signs of tarnish so there's a solid chance that your watch might be one of the tarnish resistant ones!! Either way I hope everything goes well and if you get a chance let me know how your 925 is coming along!!
You're "locking it away for 8 months"? Why? So it won't be tarnished for your wedding? Get rid of it now. If you're so concerned with tarnishing that you locked it away for 8 months, you won't be able to deal with the tarnishing after the wedding either. If TWI's watch looks like trash after a few months, you better get rid of it soon. It looks like the whole thing has been dipped in coffee and stained.
@@littlejackalo5326 I want the brilliance of the silver case to be ever present on the day of my wedding. I'm not sure how I'd I feel about it tarnishing after that, I'd like to think I would be less bothered because the watch then has some sentimental value. Something I can hand down. I still think its a stunning watch, I just wish Tudor had been on the money with the “never tarnish” promise (and I a little less gullible)
baking soda in warm water with aluminum foil underneath is another method to remove the tarnish is a more gentler way to clean silver. You can also try sulfur powder mixed with vaseline makes a good cleaning compound. Any rubbing will slowly remove the surface finish of the watch when done too frequently. I'm a jeweler and we use cyanide to remove silver tarnish but it's not something we don't recommend for people to do at home.
My first 925 had tarnishing on it straight from the beginning when I picked it up new from my AD. I noticed it first when I came out of the store, out in the sunlight, 5 min after picking it up (it was your first vid that made me aware of this & why I really checked for it extra carefully). So I went back, they took it back and sent it back to Tudor immediately. I got a new one from their next delivery from Tudor two days after and that one was perfect. And so far, 3 weeks in, I have had no noticeable tarnish on it. So it seems to me that there might be some inconsistencies in production quality with these at the moment.
Thanks for responding! I really want to get a 925 but hate tarnish. If it’s a case of. “Sorry. Bad batch. Here take another” no worries but I do not want to be stuck with a brownish tarnished case. The dark grey in this video was kind of cool but would prefer it just stay the way I bought it.
@@FightingMango Yeah I agree. But I fell in love with the watch when I first tried it on (and ordered it on the spot) at my local AD, +1 months before I received my own. The silver does have a really nice glow to it compared to steel. So I'm willing to take the risk, because when it is as supposed to it just looks awesome. My AD has confirmed as well that it shouldn't tarnish, which means I don't have to accept that and if this one also will start tarnishing I will most likely just change it to something else. I have a good relationship with my AD and this isn't my first watch from them, so I feel quite confident in them and their service. So if Tudor can't deliver I just simply will change to something else (I really hope not though), because I won't accept much tarnishing either. But as said, I'm willing to take the chance for now, because the one I have now just looks soooo good and I'm super pleased with it so far!
@@charleshailey4461 Yeah, I think normal estimated delivery times is 4-6 months on this model at the moment, that's what they told me at least (here in Norway, where I live). But I've bought many watches (most of them more expensive than this one) over the years from my AD, so that usually will help. If I had no purchase history from before I would be happy to just be accepted on the waiting list for this model at the moment. It's even worse with Rolex, as an example (as I'm sure you're aware of). I'm now starting to get approval for getting on the waiting list on some models from them now which the AD would just decline me for back in the day.
That's great to hear that there are some assurances in place! Definitely would give me peace of mind if I were in your position. Although I do wish that Tudor would clarify the situation at least a little bit to help the people who are still hesitant about getting a 925 at all! It's cool to hear that your 925 is doing ok now and hopefully it stays that way bc the original silver finish is unbelievably gorgeous! Please do keep us updated if you get a chance!!
I purchased my 925 on about 6 weeks ago and still don't see any signs of tarnish. I don't wear it every day but in the regular rotation. Still in love with it.
Oh nice that great to hear and its a promising sign! If only there was some more clarity on the situation to find out which 925s will and wont tarnish so that others can feel more confident in their purchase.
Thats awesome congratulations!! Its awesome to hear that you're excited about the tarnish! I really do hope mine gets a full tarnish bc it ill look awesome! How are you liking the 925 so far?
That's good to hear! Hopefully it stays that way and I have a feeling that you might have a watch from a second batch so I think yours will stay relatively tarnish free. It'll be interesting to see if the theory is right! Yeah the fully tarnished one is awesome and hopefully I can get mine to look like that! It really makes me want to find someone with a hot tub 😂
I loved your explanation about how natural forces crave dramatic landscapes as the grand canyon. I really did, its quite important not just know about watches but the natural world too. Besides you nail the awkward argument of the "abrasive" eraser. Perhaps a tarnish rainbow is a bit too much to love don't you think?
Thanks so much!! In the end so much of what goes into a watch comes from nature so there must be some parallels between them! In the end life in general is going to be far more abrasive on a watch than an eraser😂 Looool yeah a full rainbow tarnish would be a lot to take in bc ideally I want my 925 to look like the fully darkened on I showed near-ish the end! That being said if a rainbow comes about then I'll roll with it! Albeit I wouldn't be able to wear it nearly as much😂
Thank you TWI. A really great balanced progress report very well articulated. The very light use of a pencil eraser will be good for those who wish to remove the tarnish as does the use of the more abrasive tooth paste. That last tarnished watch looked great and worked well with the bezel and dial colour. Very interesting what Tudor appear to be saying v what the watch owners including yourself have observed. Keep up the terrific content TWI!
Thanks Anthony, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!! Yeah I'm really happy that the eraser method was so effective despite being so simple and hassle free. Hopefully it'll help sway people towards getting a 925! Yeah the fully tarnished 925 looks absolutely stunning! Makes me want to get myself a hot tub to jump start the tarnish 😂 hopefully we'll get some clarity from Tudor soon which would helpful for us and them too!
Be glad yours is still on your wrist. I Bought mine in May and sent back to Rolex/Tudor in July as the movement kept stopping after just 10-12 hours even with full wind. Apparently they are short on parts and won’t had it repaired until Nov/Dec of this year. AWFUL experience. Tudor doesn’t seem to care about customer experience. If I’d had known I would have been without the watch the first 6 months of “ownership”, I would never have bought this watch.
My god thats absolutely crazy!! I wouldnt have ever thought of such a thing happening bc its such a bizarre situation!! I would have expected them to give you an option of them sending you a brand new watch given the circumstances that are beyond their control. But wow I'm sorry to hear about that hopefully it comes in sooner. What are you going to do after it comes back? I guess after waiting all that time itll make sense to keep it but its sad that theres going to be a bitter aftertaste
@@thewatchidiot Yes, if Tudor cared about customer experience they would have offered me a brand new watch or refund. Neither is offered by AD or Tudor. I told the AD this is a terrible experience and I fear Tudor is selling more of these watches to newer customers, while me a customer who purchased one back in May is stuck waiting till Nov/Dec. They kept saying their hands were tied and blamed covid. No accountability. I do not see myself every buying from this AD again or buying Tudor again. This experience has taken me from being a Tudor advocate to a Tudor critic. It’s a shame Tudor could care less about their customers.
Yeah it's a very unfortunate situation and it makes me sad to hear about these issues given how much I love my Tudor's. But at the same time it's important to note that being a fan of some watches from a brand shouldn't mean blindly supporting everything from said brand. In fact I would argue that the fans should be critical of the brand to help make the brand better, which is absolutely the case here with Tudor. It's time to hope for the best I guess!
Ah hopefully the call comes in soon bc it really is an awesome watch and I'm happy to hear that you're still going forward with it! Yes please do let me know what you think of it when you get it!!
Still looks good. Still, I’m glad I wasn’t able to find one after seeing your first video because, once the all bronze was revealed, decided I’d grab that one instead (once the Tudor Boutique opens in NYC) to pair with my Pelly LHD.
Ooooo that's awesome that you'll get the full bronze one! Definitely looks awesome and it must wear pretty incredibly on the wrist especially with that new clasp! If you can let me know what you think of it when you eventually get it!
If my watch looked like the one at 8:00 I'd have to call me credit card company to issue a charge back. That's unacceptable. All of the tarnishing is unacceptable. They look like cracker jack box junk toys.
Yesssss!!!! I was absolutely shocked when I saw that and it gave me so much hope and excitement to see what the 925 could possibly look like! He said that he took it into a hot tub and then that happened! Looks like I'll need to find a hot tub real soon😂 Thank You so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
Hopefully it happens for you bc the dark gray really does look spectacular! quickest way to get it is to spend some time in a hot tub which is very nice😂
As a 925 owner myself, I find the fact that 50% of all commentary on the 925 addresses tarnish and it is becoming quite tedious. It is a beautiful watch, and the slight changes in patina can give the watch more character. In my case, after 5 months, there is zero tarnish. If that's all that is spoken about, it will devalue the watch in peoples minds, distracting from its beauty and uniqueness. Thankfully, it's one of Mr. Wonderful's favorite watches. The alloy is comprised of 92.5% silver with the remainder being small amounts of zinc, palladium, and indium.
hmmmm i think it should be fine to do only every once in a while bc in the end toothpaste is abrasive and brushing the surface too often or with too much pressure could still mess with the finish. Although brushing it with the grain like you mentioned would definitely help a lot!
Hello again fella, as you know I got my 925 on the same day as you and as of today still absolutely no tarnish or patina! I have worn the watch quite regularly but have never had it near water, I'm still thinking the climate has a lot to do with it! Keep up the great and interesting videos and please keep us updated, regards from Manchester UK...
Hey there again!! Wow that's so great to hear that yours is still pristine!! I guess Tudor got a bad batch out considering their example is pristine as well! Thanks you so much I'm so happy to hear that you're enjoying the videos and yes much more is coming!! Take care😁
I’m in Manchester, which ad managed to supply it? I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get one for months. I have a bronze 58 though. If you want to see it, let me know. I’m often in the city centre at David m Robinson and Trafford centre goldsmiths.
Some bronze watches come with a thing that looks like a large nail file but is very very lightly abrasive on one side & like an eraser on the other. The abrasive side takes off the patina & the eraser side polishes it, might be worth a look.
The tarnish that you remove and that sits between the eraser and the case will be abrasive. But if you have tarnish at all, then that is the metal reacting and hence the finish is already "damaged". The issue with removing tarnish is that you are exposing the metal again which allows more tarnishing to happen. If I was Tudor, I would have used a polished finish on this watch rather than a brushed finish, as that is less easily damaged, and doesn't create as many surfaces imperfections for tarnishing to happen.
Yeah any sort of removal will require some level of abrasion however using a soft eraser will at least be less abrasive than using a heavy duty polishing cloth. A polished case would have been easier to maintain but the look and finish of the fully brushed case is just so incredible so i think its worth it in the end!
Isn’t it odd that Tudor will make multiple watches of materials that tarnish so that they organically get an older look but yet they still use faux patina and fake rivets! Ridiculous.
Loooool time to go full vintage!! I can only imagine how big a hit they would have on their hands if they managed to make a modern bracelet with a real stretch and real rivets! It would probably be the most comfortable bracelet on earth
I'm so glad to hear that you're finding it interesting and enjoyable! Its a fun journey and we'll see how crazy it gets as time passes! Thanks for the support
Hmmmm I can't seem to see any new messages! Did you send them 4 weeks ago when you commented or just recently? I haven't been on Instagram for quite a while unfortunately lol
Hi folks , I love watches but don’t have the Tudor Black bay 925 but what I would do and suggest if I had one is to buy a jewellers silver polishing cloth , it is like a normal watch polishing cloth but impregnated with a compound for polishing and removing silver tarnishing , hope this helps
Silver polishing cloths are definitely very effective when it comes to tarnish removal however such cloths are meant to be used for polished silver surfaces. This unfortunately would damage the beautiful brushed finish of the 925. 😔 I wish they would work tho!!!
Was in an AD in Los Angeles last week and the sales told me pointedly that it doent tarnish, and doubled down when I started to mention these videos etc. very weird
oh wow yeah thats super weird especially considering that its tough to refute it when it tarnishing exists with 100% certainty lol! I've heard that some ADs tell customers about the chance of tarnishing openly despite Tudor's claims. Better safe than sorry i guess!
@@thewatchidiot literally only thing deterring me from purchasing was that salesman in the AD, i was talking about tarnishing and these videos etc, while looking at the tarnish of their display models bezel and still this dude doubled down "It wont tarnish" ugh. If they at least admitted it, id be more inclined to purchase (like you i want that gunmetal-ish tarnish!)
Thanks so much for this video. I really would love to get a 925 but hate tarnish. Hearing the stories of people getting them switched out by Tudor is encouraging but I also which Tudor would address this one way or another. Our bad, it will tarnish or. No no. We had a production hiccup. We will see that you get a non tarnishing watch.
Yeah it really is unfortunate that we arent getting more clarity on the situation even in terms of how to care for the watch or an approved way to remove the tarnish for those who want to! There are some owners out there reporting no tarnish but at this point theres no knowing which 925 will tarnish and which one wont. Hopefully this gets resolved bc it really is an incredible watch and I hope more people can get one without any worries!
Im not into the "Patina" look , thats why i do not get bronze or silver watches (lazy to clean). Butwhat i like about silver is that it has a more brilliant tinge to it (whiter) than steel . I think a dry climate should slow down the onset of patina a bit ( air and less moisture to react with the silver).
Awesome I will keep that in mind! At the moment I'm actually looking forward to seeing what the tarnish will end up looking like by the end of the summer and onwards from there!
Could you buy a silver protection coating and try it on if it makes it some effect on the tarnishing? I would love to buy one but the tarnishing just puts me off too much. Thank you and great video!
Yeah I've heard of some coatings and it's possible that it can work however I actually want to the tarnish to continue on to see what it'll look like fully tarnished!! However if I do remove the tarnish I'll give a coating a go. Thank you so much and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
Hello! It would be super good too see what the chances are of getting that nice even tarnsish. How many got that one compared how many got the other greasy-looking one? I would also perfer the even one but it is 1/10 chance to get it, i will probably get another watch instead
I think I'll be doing an update around the end of the month into next month so that it can be a 6 month check in. I also wanted to gather more information on the situation which i haven been able to do so far so once I get the info I need I'll make it happen! I'm glad to hear that you're looking forward to the update!
Silver cloth is an effective way to remove tarnish however only on polished surfaces bc it is quite abrasive. We're trying to figure out the best way to get rid of the tarnish while maintaining the brushed finish which is a little more tricky. If only Tudor would help us out! 😂
Silver alloy's are sensitive to electrolysis, in your wash basin at home there could be a very low level of electric bleed from a geyser that is earthed to the water main, or diving in a harbour while there is welding going on steel boats close by, pools with chlorinators, the risks are endless.
Oh wow I didn't know that silver was that sensitive to that kind of faint electricity! At this point the safest way to go about it is to just think that literally everything will tarnish silver😂😂
What is Michaels Instagram please? I wonder if a fully tarnished watch that hasn’t been replaced under warranty; such as Michaels; will become a collectors piece due to it being from a batch that doesn’t meet their quality control?
Depending on how many of these tarnish prone examples were made then i think they could be collectible for sure! If you'd like to you can dm me on instagram @the.watch.idiot and I can pass along his information
I'm glad you like the channel!! Ah I hear ya but I like the look of zooms and jump cuts! 3 cuts and 2 zooms per sentence is a bit exaggerated but some sections do need a more cuts than id like bc I have to work with whatever footage I've captured.
If it's a silver just try with soda,I clean my silver for decades like that.But the point is what Tudor claims and what is their answer to this problem.
Yeah thats a good way to clean silver however there is still a chance of some chemical etching since we have no idea what the alloy really is. You're absolutely right we really ought to have some more clarity on the situation or at the very least know what is the official way to remove the tarnish for those who want to remove it.
The best tip is probably not to buy a watch made out of silver? In my humble opinion it’s probably one of the worst metals to use, right up there with platinum as far as practicality goes.
looool I took it into saltwater! Silver isnt ideal for diving for sure however it really does look incredible! I just wish we knew how this alloy will and wont react to different substances so that other owners can feel more confident
I'm glad I was able to help a bit but yeah there's unfortunately quite a lot of uncertainty with the 925. I wish it wasn't the case so that more people would take a chance on such an awesome watch!!
I struggle with Tudor. They seem to be a bit clueless as a brand. Denying clear evidence of tarnishing. Denying date wheel issues, or claiming it’s fixed, despite the evidence to the contrary. Their statements just seem poor thought out.
Yeah it's unfortunate that the situation is unfolding the way it is bc this whole thing was quite avoidable and even now just coming out and clarifying what is happening would be helpful to current and prospective owners alike. Let's see what happens going forward!
Would be interesting to see if this same method from the bronze works, denture tablets in water for 30 mins pretty much had the bronze looking brand new again and that tarnish was much worse ruclips.net/video/ZpZ-NzYMkAw/видео.html personally I like the tarnish look, if you leave it alone and let it even out it’s a nice warm colour! Different strokes for different folks I guess. Give the tablets a go and let us know!
There are lots of videos how to antique silver, and how to remove it. Soak in baking soda is easy. There should be minimal concerns with a brushed case. The coin collecting community frowns on “cleaning”, so leave it alone and sell it for millions in a thousand years.
Yeah that seems to be a widely recommended method and after looking into it it seems like itll be safe as well! Thankfully I dont have to worry about any of this bc I want to keep the tarnish going for as long as possible just bc I'm curious to see what it'll end up looking like!
looool its a pretty extreme example for sure considering how quickly it tarnished too. But yeah chlorine will get a silver tarnish going but thankfuly it looks absolutely incredible!
Honestly, the fanboy apologists are just unbearable!!! Tudor messed up. Complain! Make them do better! They promised NO tarnishing. So why is it doing that unevenly. And for them to be giving BS responses is simply unacceptable. There is another YT Channel where the guy had issues with his BB Ceramic which had to be sent back from Hong Kong to Switzerland. I have kind of been interested with Tudor but I would stay well clear until they up their game and that simply will not happen until the existing users make enough of a stink with this.
Oh man I didnt realize that i wasnt allowed to like the tarnish!😂 (Also bear in mind that it was my video that brought to light the tarnish problem in the first place which isnt very fanboy like lol)
@@thewatchidiot Huh? But you DON'T like tarnishing... That's why you are... You know... Trying to remove it. 😀 And you are not an apologist because you are not defending Tudor. I was talking about the people in the comment sections I have came across.
Of course it’s going to tarnish. It’s 925. If it wasn’t going to tarnish, it would mean Tudor invented some new form of Silver, and it wouldn’t be called 925…because EVERYONE KNOWS 925 TARNISHES. shame they lied, should have been honest from the jump. I mean, it’s a good looking watch. Just don’t lie about it. 🤦♂️
Hi there thank you so much for the offer! As it turns out I'm actually going to be keeping the tarnish to see what it ends up looking like after a long time but if I decide to remove the tarnish I'll be sure to keep you in mind!!!
Lol yeah definitely not a watch for everyone but for those who love it they really love it! Yeah lots of raised eye brows with the height increase but thankfully it made no difference on the wrist compared to my BB58 Blue!
Oh man a platinum BB58 would look awesome! Yeah the response was a bit unusual bc they were so adamant about it not tarnishing yet they didn't acknowledge the contradictory tarnished watches at all! Let's see what happens going forward
This is my favorite watch ever. I film it every day, can't get enough of it with steel bracelet!
This whole tarnish situation wouldn’t be so bizarre if Tudor’s marketing hadn’t claimed it doesn’t tarnish. For me personally, I don’t find a silver cased watch appealing.
Exactly!! If they just said from the start that it would tarnish even just a little bit everyone would be more than happy! Or even if Tudor would just give us pointers on how to care for it and acknowledge that something is happening. In the end I'm not angry with the situation, I would just like clarification
Yeah, but they would also have sold a lot less watches without that statement.
It is a bit shady because I think they intentionally do not have such a Statement on the Official Website. They would have if they were really sure about it.
@@satai completely agree. Without the promise, no one would buy. Now Tudor needs to back it up. The policy should be pretty simple, if your watch tarnishes and you aren’t satisfied, you can exchange it for another Tudor. It’s not hard. I think this will end up being the “unofficial” policy. I will say that grey tarnish is super cool. Like I want that. I’d pay more for it!
Yes, the dark grey looks amazing, but That seems to be rare.
I do not believe in a exchange option … but we might see
@MrSatai I'm not so sure they would have sold a lot less if they just said "this new alloy is highly resistant to tarnish" which would set roughly the right expectations and leave Tudor some wiggle room.
Fewer people would buy the 925 for sure but I think it would just be a matter of the wait-list being shorter 😂
Also I need to find a hot tub to soak bc I want to get that dark grey tarnish asap!!
Wow I was not expecting to see the eraser take off the tarnish that easily. Definitely good to know for maintenance! Also that fully tarnished 925 really does look awesome and hopefully you get it like that soon
I still can't believe it was that easy! Definitely the safest way to go about getting rid of the tarnish or at least touching it up. Yeah I want that tarnish so bad, I need to find someone with a hot tub asap!😂
Thanks for sharing and documenting your 925 journey. Appreciate it!
Sure thing I'm happy to hear you're enjoying it! It's going to be an interesting journey and hopefully we get to see some awesome tarnish!
You have a 925? Dislike it? Hate that tarnish?
I’ll buy it from you. I love the tarnish!
I got mine about a month ago. When it first came out, I fell for it and decided that would make the perfect watch to wear for my wedding. I've tried it on twice, once at the shop and once when I got home to take some mandatory pics. I'm dreading the tarnish. I don't know enough about silver tarnish to know how much it'll change whilst it's locked away for another 8 months. All I know is that I bought into Tudors ”it won't tarnish, not in a million years” marketing, and now I'm debating selling it and putting the money towards something else before the tarnish sets it. I feel like I'm sitting on a wall, with owners one side showing and saying it does tarnish, and quickly. And Tudor on the other side saying “it will not tarnish”, “it won't tanish”, ”ours hasn't changed at all”, “our special silver will not tarnish ever!”. Unless they release the make up of their alloy, or provide something to back up their claims, I'm gonna start assuming Tudor is in denial
Sorry for the late reply but congratulations on the 925 and on your future wedding!! The 925 would be an awesome watch to wear for such a special occasion for sure!
But I totally get where you're coming from given all the uncertainty that's surrounding the watch but if your 925 stays inside until your wedding there won't be any tarnish on it unless something crazy happens! Mine hasn't gone outside very much lately and the tarnish hasn't progressed at all pretty much.
Additionally there are many owners out there who are wearing their 925s out and about quite often and they aren't reporting any signs of tarnish so there's a solid chance that your watch might be one of the tarnish resistant ones!!
Either way I hope everything goes well and if you get a chance let me know how your 925 is coming along!!
You're "locking it away for 8 months"? Why? So it won't be tarnished for your wedding? Get rid of it now. If you're so concerned with tarnishing that you locked it away for 8 months, you won't be able to deal with the tarnishing after the wedding either. If TWI's watch looks like trash after a few months, you better get rid of it soon. It looks like the whole thing has been dipped in coffee and stained.
@@littlejackalo5326 I want the brilliance of the silver case to be ever present on the day of my wedding. I'm not sure how I'd I feel about it tarnishing after that, I'd like to think I would be less bothered because the watch then has some sentimental value. Something I can hand down. I still think its a stunning watch, I just wish Tudor had been on the money with the “never tarnish” promise (and I a little less gullible)
baking soda in warm water with aluminum foil underneath is another method to remove the tarnish is a more gentler way to clean silver. You can also try sulfur powder mixed with vaseline makes a good cleaning compound. Any rubbing will slowly remove the surface finish of the watch when done too frequently. I'm a jeweler and we use cyanide to remove silver tarnish but it's not something we don't recommend for people to do at home.
My first 925 had tarnishing on it straight from the beginning when I picked it up new from my AD. I noticed it first when I came out of the store, out in the sunlight, 5 min after picking it up (it was your first vid that made me aware of this & why I really checked for it extra carefully). So I went back, they took it back and sent it back to Tudor immediately. I got a new one from their next delivery from Tudor two days after and that one was perfect. And so far, 3 weeks in, I have had no noticeable tarnish on it.
So it seems to me that there might be some inconsistencies in production quality with these at the moment.
Thanks for responding! I really want to get a 925 but hate tarnish. If it’s a case of. “Sorry. Bad batch. Here take another” no worries but I do not want to be stuck with a brownish tarnished case. The dark grey in this video was kind of cool but would prefer it just stay the way I bought it.
@@FightingMango Yeah I agree. But I fell in love with the watch when I first tried it on (and ordered it on the spot) at my local AD, +1 months before I received my own. The silver does have a really nice glow to it compared to steel. So I'm willing to take the risk, because when it is as supposed to it just looks awesome.
My AD has confirmed as well that it shouldn't tarnish, which means I don't have to accept that and if this one also will start tarnishing I will most likely just change it to something else. I have a good relationship with my AD and this isn't my first watch from them, so I feel quite confident in them and their service. So if Tudor can't deliver I just simply will change to something else (I really hope not though), because I won't accept much tarnishing either. But as said, I'm willing to take the chance for now, because the one I have now just looks soooo good and I'm super pleased with it so far!
@@plojbravo4911 wow, i have been on waiting list since it was announced!
@@charleshailey4461 Yeah, I think normal estimated delivery times is 4-6 months on this model at the moment, that's what they told me at least (here in Norway, where I live). But I've bought many watches (most of them more expensive than this one) over the years from my AD, so that usually will help. If I had no purchase history from before I would be happy to just be accepted on the waiting list for this model at the moment.
It's even worse with Rolex, as an example (as I'm sure you're aware of). I'm now starting to get approval for getting on the waiting list on some models from them now which the AD would just decline me for back in the day.
That's great to hear that there are some assurances in place! Definitely would give me peace of mind if I were in your position. Although I do wish that Tudor would clarify the situation at least a little bit to help the people who are still hesitant about getting a 925 at all!
It's cool to hear that your 925 is doing ok now and hopefully it stays that way bc the original silver finish is unbelievably gorgeous! Please do keep us updated if you get a chance!!
I purchased my 925 on about 6 weeks ago and still don't see any signs of tarnish. I don't wear it every day but in the regular rotation. Still in love with it.
Oh nice that great to hear and its a promising sign! If only there was some more clarity on the situation to find out which 925s will and wont tarnish so that others can feel more confident in their purchase.
I just got my 925 last week. I'm excited to see how it's going to tarnish.
Thats awesome congratulations!! Its awesome to hear that you're excited about the tarnish! I really do hope mine gets a full tarnish bc it ill look awesome! How are you liking the 925 so far?
@@thewatchidiot thank you! So far i'm loving it. No signs of tarnish, yet. The fully tarnished one from your vid looks awesome.
That's good to hear! Hopefully it stays that way and I have a feeling that you might have a watch from a second batch so I think yours will stay relatively tarnish free. It'll be interesting to see if the theory is right!
Yeah the fully tarnished one is awesome and hopefully I can get mine to look like that! It really makes me want to find someone with a hot tub 😂
I loved your explanation about how natural forces crave dramatic landscapes as the grand canyon. I really did, its quite important not just know about watches but the natural world too. Besides you nail the awkward argument of the "abrasive" eraser. Perhaps a tarnish rainbow is a bit too much to love don't you think?
Thanks so much!! In the end so much of what goes into a watch comes from nature so there must be some parallels between them! In the end life in general is going to be far more abrasive on a watch than an eraser😂
Looool yeah a full rainbow tarnish would be a lot to take in bc ideally I want my 925 to look like the fully darkened on I showed near-ish the end! That being said if a rainbow comes about then I'll roll with it! Albeit I wouldn't be able to wear it nearly as much😂
Thank you TWI. A really great balanced progress report very well articulated. The very light use of a pencil eraser will be good for those who wish to remove the tarnish as does the use of the more abrasive tooth paste. That last tarnished watch looked great and worked well with the bezel and dial colour. Very interesting what Tudor appear to be saying v what the watch owners including yourself have observed. Keep up the terrific content TWI!
Thanks Anthony, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!! Yeah I'm really happy that the eraser method was so effective despite being so simple and hassle free. Hopefully it'll help sway people towards getting a 925!
Yeah the fully tarnished 925 looks absolutely stunning! Makes me want to get myself a hot tub to jump start the tarnish 😂 hopefully we'll get some clarity from Tudor soon which would helpful for us and them too!
Be glad yours is still on your wrist. I
Bought mine in May and sent back to Rolex/Tudor in July as the movement kept stopping after just 10-12 hours even with full wind. Apparently they are short on parts and won’t had it repaired until Nov/Dec of this year. AWFUL experience. Tudor doesn’t seem to care about customer experience. If I’d had known I would have been without the watch the first 6 months of “ownership”, I would never have bought this watch.
My god thats absolutely crazy!! I wouldnt have ever thought of such a thing happening bc its such a bizarre situation!! I would have expected them to give you an option of them sending you a brand new watch given the circumstances that are beyond their control. But wow I'm sorry to hear about that hopefully it comes in sooner.
What are you going to do after it comes back? I guess after waiting all that time itll make sense to keep it but its sad that theres going to be a bitter aftertaste
@@thewatchidiot Yes, if Tudor cared about customer experience they would have offered me a brand new watch or refund. Neither is offered by AD or Tudor. I told the AD this is a terrible experience and I fear Tudor is selling more of these watches to newer customers, while me a customer who purchased one back in May is stuck waiting till Nov/Dec. They kept saying their hands were tied and blamed covid. No accountability. I do not see myself every buying from this AD again or buying Tudor again. This experience has taken me from being a Tudor advocate to a Tudor critic. It’s a shame Tudor could care less about their customers.
Yeah it's a very unfortunate situation and it makes me sad to hear about these issues given how much I love my Tudor's. But at the same time it's important to note that being a fan of some watches from a brand shouldn't mean blindly supporting everything from said brand. In fact I would argue that the fans should be critical of the brand to help make the brand better, which is absolutely the case here with Tudor. It's time to hope for the best I guess!
I've had mine for about 8 months. It has tarnished but looks bronze now. Its an even color except for the crevices which look a little blackish.
Still on the waiting list , but I’m still as keen as ever , when I get my phone call I will let you know how I get on with it 🤞🏻
Ah hopefully the call comes in soon bc it really is an awesome watch and I'm happy to hear that you're still going forward with it! Yes please do let me know what you think of it when you get it!!
Still looks good. Still, I’m glad I wasn’t able to find one after seeing your first video because, once the all bronze was revealed, decided I’d grab that one instead (once the Tudor Boutique opens in NYC) to pair with my Pelly LHD.
Ooooo that's awesome that you'll get the full bronze one! Definitely looks awesome and it must wear pretty incredibly on the wrist especially with that new clasp! If you can let me know what you think of it when you eventually get it!
@@thewatchidiot Thanks! I’ll most definitely let you know.
If my watch looked like the one at 8:00 I'd have to call me credit card company to issue a charge back. That's unacceptable. All of the tarnishing is unacceptable. They look like cracker jack box junk toys.
Great scotts!!! 9:12 that is one of the whole reason I got this watch for!!! To see it like this! How did that happen!😍 great video as always Josh!!!
Yesssss!!!! I was absolutely shocked when I saw that and it gave me so much hope and excitement to see what the 925 could possibly look like! He said that he took it into a hot tub and then that happened! Looks like I'll need to find a hot tub real soon😂 Thank You so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
@@thewatchidiot lol. Same here, scrolling Ebay now for used hot tubs!
Interesting, my silverware does that in the dishwasher. Your on to something.
Loooool I think I'll do the same!!😂😂😂 Time to get the 925 hot tub mod going!!
@@charleshailey4461 next update will be "what's the 925 tarnish like after a 60 minute rinse cycle"😂😂😂😂
I want mine too have a full patina. That dark gray looks incredible.
Hopefully it happens for you bc the dark gray really does look spectacular! quickest way to get it is to spend some time in a hot tub which is very nice😂
Online it says you can oxidise silver by Placing silver in a freezer bag with the yolk of a hard-boiled egg to achieve a rich patina.
Dare you to try
next video title: "open letter to Tudor on behalf of BB925 owners"?
Looool let's hope Tudor watches my videos 😂😂
As a 925 owner myself, I find the fact that 50% of all commentary on the 925 addresses tarnish and it is becoming quite tedious. It is a beautiful watch, and the slight changes in patina can give the watch more character. In my case, after 5 months, there is zero tarnish. If that's all that is spoken about, it will devalue the watch in peoples minds, distracting from its beauty and uniqueness. Thankfully, it's one of Mr. Wonderful's favorite watches. The alloy is comprised of 92.5% silver with the remainder being small amounts of zinc, palladium, and indium.
I am still in awe that the eraser worked that well! Thanks for sharing
Same here, I still cant believe a normal eraser did what it did! Definitely was a surprise
Flitz will brighten it up. It doesn't seem to abrade the surface of my old silver pocket watch, and it shins like a mirror -for awhile.
do you think that a gentle brush with tooth paste and a tooth brush in the same direction as the factory brushing would clean it up without damage?
hmmmm i think it should be fine to do only every once in a while bc in the end toothpaste is abrasive and brushing the surface too often or with too much pressure could still mess with the finish. Although brushing it with the grain like you mentioned would definitely help a lot!
Hello again fella, as you know I got my 925 on the same day as you and as of today still absolutely no tarnish or patina! I have worn the watch quite regularly but have never had it near water, I'm still thinking the climate has a lot to do with it! Keep up the great and interesting videos and please keep us updated, regards from Manchester UK...
Hey there again!! Wow that's so great to hear that yours is still pristine!! I guess Tudor got a bad batch out considering their example is pristine as well!
Thanks you so much I'm so happy to hear that you're enjoying the videos and yes much more is coming!! Take care😁
I’m in Manchester, which ad managed to supply it? I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get one for months. I have a bronze 58 though. If you want to see it, let me know. I’m often in the city centre at David m Robinson and Trafford centre goldsmiths.
@@Ti-sq8jm Hi, I managed to get the first and only one from Beaverbrooks in the Arndale...
Does chemically removing tarnish scrape off a layer of metal? Like polishing a watch?
Some bronze watches come with a thing that looks like a large nail file but is very very lightly abrasive on one side & like an eraser on the other. The abrasive side takes off the patina & the eraser side polishes it, might be worth a look.
Ah ok I've never heard of that tool although it definitely sounds interesting! Thanks for letting me know!
9:08 holy smokes! What an amazing patina! I’d pay a premium if he ever wanted to sell
The tarnish that you remove and that sits between the eraser and the case will be abrasive. But if you have tarnish at all, then that is the metal reacting and hence the finish is already "damaged". The issue with removing tarnish is that you are exposing the metal again which allows more tarnishing to happen. If I was Tudor, I would have used a polished finish on this watch rather than a brushed finish, as that is less easily damaged, and doesn't create as many surfaces imperfections for tarnishing to happen.
Yeah any sort of removal will require some level of abrasion however using a soft eraser will at least be less abrasive than using a heavy duty polishing cloth. A polished case would have been easier to maintain but the look and finish of the fully brushed case is just so incredible so i think its worth it in the end!
Isn’t it odd that Tudor will make multiple watches of materials that tarnish so that they organically get an older look but yet they still use faux patina and fake rivets! Ridiculous.
Loooool time to go full vintage!! I can only imagine how big a hit they would have on their hands if they managed to make a modern bracelet with a real stretch and real rivets! It would probably be the most comfortable bracelet on earth
I have the bronze 58. I wash my watch with toothpaste every other week and barely shows patina. Looks brand new all the time.
This is a really interesting series. Thanks.
I'm so glad to hear that you're finding it interesting and enjoyable! Its a fun journey and we'll see how crazy it gets as time passes! Thanks for the support
I’ve got a LOT of tarnish on mine. Will send you pics
Have you addressed it with Tudor?
Oh wow yes please do send them over! You can dm them to me on Instagram @the.watch.idiot
Are you planning on returning your 925?
The Watch Idiot sent!
Hmmmm I can't seem to see any new messages! Did you send them 4 weeks ago when you commented or just recently? I haven't been on Instagram for quite a while unfortunately lol
The Watch Idiot I just re-sent!
Any info on how much silver was used to make this watch? Just curious
Hi folks , I love watches but don’t have the Tudor Black bay 925 but what I would do and suggest if I had one is to buy a jewellers silver polishing cloth , it is like a normal watch polishing cloth but impregnated with a compound for polishing and removing silver tarnishing , hope this helps
Silver polishing cloths are definitely very effective when it comes to tarnish removal however such cloths are meant to be used for polished silver surfaces. This unfortunately would damage the beautiful brushed finish of the 925. 😔 I wish they would work tho!!!
Was in an AD in Los Angeles last week and the sales told me pointedly that it doent tarnish, and doubled down when I started to mention these videos etc. very weird
oh wow yeah thats super weird especially considering that its tough to refute it when it tarnishing exists with 100% certainty lol! I've heard that some ADs tell customers about the chance of tarnishing openly despite Tudor's claims. Better safe than sorry i guess!
@@thewatchidiot literally only thing deterring me from purchasing was that salesman in the AD, i was talking about tarnishing and these videos etc, while looking at the tarnish of their display models bezel and still this dude doubled down "It wont tarnish" ugh. If they at least admitted it, id be more inclined to purchase (like you i want that gunmetal-ish tarnish!)
Thanks so much for this video. I really would love to get a 925 but hate tarnish. Hearing the stories of people getting them switched out by Tudor is encouraging but I also which Tudor would address this one way or another. Our bad, it will tarnish or. No no. We had a production hiccup. We will see that you get a non tarnishing watch.
Yeah it really is unfortunate that we arent getting more clarity on the situation even in terms of how to care for the watch or an approved way to remove the tarnish for those who want to! There are some owners out there reporting no tarnish but at this point theres no knowing which 925 will tarnish and which one wont. Hopefully this gets resolved bc it really is an incredible watch and I hope more people can get one without any worries!
Im not into the "Patina" look , thats why i do not get bronze or silver watches (lazy to clean). Butwhat i like about silver is that it has a more brilliant tinge to it (whiter) than steel . I think a dry climate should slow down the onset of patina a bit ( air and less moisture to react with the silver).
Try a product called never dull . It will clean the tarnish off .
Awesome I will keep that in mind! At the moment I'm actually looking forward to seeing what the tarnish will end up looking like by the end of the summer and onwards from there!
Could you buy a silver protection coating and try it on if it makes it some effect on the tarnishing?
I would love to buy one but the tarnishing just puts me off too much.
Thank you and great video!
Yeah I've heard of some coatings and it's possible that it can work however I actually want to the tarnish to continue on to see what it'll look like fully tarnished!! However if I do remove the tarnish I'll give a coating a go. Thank you so much and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
Hey any idea which rubber strap is on the grey “hot tub” tarnished one at the end of your video?
And there you have a reply straight from the owner himself! Are you going to get the strap for your 925?
@bluepat7583 Gordine Can we come over and borrow your hot tub tarnish time machine?😅
I always use baby shampoo and a very soft tooth brush to clean all of my watches.
Might be worth a shot!
Yeah that sounds like a good method for sure to get those tight spots inside the lugs! Should be ok with the 925 as well👍
@@thewatchidiot I hope that helped! Just something I picked up a while ago :)
I'll give it a go! Thanks again😁
Hello! It would be super good too see what the chances are of getting that nice even tarnsish. How many got that one compared how many got the other greasy-looking one? I would also perfer the even one but it is 1/10 chance to get it, i will probably get another watch instead
Continuing on from our other thread there are at least different ways to get rid of the tarnish yourself!
When will you post an update for tarnishing? Looking forward to the next update.
I think I'll be doing an update around the end of the month into next month so that it can be a 6 month check in. I also wanted to gather more information on the situation which i haven been able to do so far so once I get the info I need I'll make it happen! I'm glad to hear that you're looking forward to the update!
Has anyone tried baking soda in hot water in a bowl with Aluminum foil? That is one of the easiest ways to clean silver tarnish....
Yeah that is a very effective way to get rid of tarnishing for sure and hopefully someone gives it a go at some point!
I have to ask why all these weird ways are being trialled? Why not just use a silver cloth? They’re designed to remove the tarnish.
Silver cloth is an effective way to remove tarnish however only on polished surfaces bc it is quite abrasive. We're trying to figure out the best way to get rid of the tarnish while maintaining the brushed finish which is a little more tricky. If only Tudor would help us out! 😂
How about trying a basic silver polishing clothe
Silver alloy's are sensitive to electrolysis, in your wash basin at home there could be a very low level of electric bleed from a geyser that is earthed to the water main, or diving in a harbour while there is welding going on steel boats close by, pools with chlorinators, the risks are endless.
Oh wow I didn't know that silver was that sensitive to that kind of faint electricity! At this point the safest way to go about it is to just think that literally everything will tarnish silver😂😂
What is Michaels Instagram please? I wonder if a fully tarnished watch that hasn’t been replaced under warranty; such as Michaels; will become a collectors piece due to it being from a batch that doesn’t meet their quality control?
Depending on how many of these tarnish prone examples were made then i think they could be collectible for sure! If you'd like to you can dm me on instagram @the.watch.idiot and I can pass along his information
way too many cuts and zooming. I like your channel but 3 cuts and 2 zooms per sentence makes it pretty hard to watch...
I'm glad you like the channel!! Ah I hear ya but I like the look of zooms and jump cuts! 3 cuts and 2 zooms per sentence is a bit exaggerated but some sections do need a more cuts than id like bc I have to work with whatever footage I've captured.
Three words: Wright's Silver Cream
If it's a silver just try with soda,I clean my silver for decades like that.But the point is what Tudor claims and what is their answer to this problem.
Yeah thats a good way to clean silver however there is still a chance of some chemical etching since we have no idea what the alloy really is. You're absolutely right we really ought to have some more clarity on the situation or at the very least know what is the official way to remove the tarnish for those who want to remove it.
The best tip is probably not to buy a watch made out of silver? In my humble opinion it’s probably one of the worst metals to use, right up there with platinum as far as practicality goes.
I have a 925 and I wear it like 2 times a week. No signs of tarnish on mine
Ah nice that's great to hear! How long have you had yours so far? Also what's the weather like where you are?
What’s the condition of your watch now 6 months later?
Eraser makes lots of tiny scratches
I tried and had lots of tiny scratches
Ah ok I guess yours might have been a harder eraser? I took a close look at my 925 and I don't see any micro scratches on mine!
Imagine a dive watch you hesitate to take in salt water (or a pool). It just seemed like a poor material choice to begin with, alloy or no.
looool I took it into saltwater! Silver isnt ideal for diving for sure however it really does look incredible! I just wish we knew how this alloy will and wont react to different substances so that other owners can feel more confident
Noooo don't remove it!!!
Thanks for this video, it helped me decide not to get a 925. Great looking watch, just not for me.
I'm glad I was able to help a bit but yeah there's unfortunately quite a lot of uncertainty with the 925. I wish it wasn't the case so that more people would take a chance on such an awesome watch!!
Why you buy a watch with all that problem 😕
I struggle with Tudor. They seem to be a bit clueless as a brand. Denying clear evidence of tarnishing. Denying date wheel issues, or claiming it’s fixed, despite the evidence to the contrary. Their statements just seem poor thought out.
Do you have the link to the Instagram account with the sweet full patina?
If you dm me @the.watch.idiot I'll send you over to his account!
@@thewatchidiot sent you a DM on Instagram 👍🏻
Love the watch in silver, however after watching I have decided it is not for me.
Man, that denial response/attitude from Tudor is not good PR. I own a regular BB58 black but this makes me not want to own anything from them.
Yeah it's unfortunate that the situation is unfolding the way it is bc this whole thing was quite avoidable and even now just coming out and clarifying what is happening would be helpful to current and prospective owners alike. Let's see what happens going forward!
Would be interesting to see if this same method from the bronze works, denture tablets in water for 30 mins pretty much had the bronze looking brand new again and that tarnish was much worse ruclips.net/video/ZpZ-NzYMkAw/видео.html personally I like the tarnish look, if you leave it alone and let it even out it’s a nice warm colour! Different strokes for different folks I guess. Give the tablets a go and let us know!
You can not do pushups with watch on wrist.
Thankfully I don't work out😂😂😂
Yes you can. Wear it above the wrist bone
There are lots of videos how to antique silver, and how to remove it. Soak in baking soda is easy. There should be minimal concerns with a brushed case. The coin collecting community frowns on “cleaning”, so leave it alone and sell it for millions in a thousand years.
Yeah that seems to be a widely recommended method and after looking into it it seems like itll be safe as well! Thankfully I dont have to worry about any of this bc I want to keep the tarnish going for as long as possible just bc I'm curious to see what it'll end up looking like!
That last one looks like it was thrown in bleach has same effect
looool its a pretty extreme example for sure considering how quickly it tarnished too. But yeah chlorine will get a silver tarnish going but thankfuly it looks absolutely incredible!
Honestly, the fanboy apologists are just unbearable!!!
Tudor messed up. Complain! Make them do better! They promised NO tarnishing. So why is it doing that unevenly. And for them to be giving BS responses is simply unacceptable.
There is another YT Channel where the guy had issues with his BB Ceramic which had to be sent back from Hong Kong to Switzerland.
I have kind of been interested with Tudor but I would stay well clear until they up their game and that simply will not happen until the existing users make enough of a stink with this.
Oh man I didnt realize that i wasnt allowed to like the tarnish!😂 (Also bear in mind that it was my video that brought to light the tarnish problem in the first place which isnt very fanboy like lol)
@@thewatchidiot Huh? But you DON'T like tarnishing... That's why you are... You know... Trying to remove it. 😀
And you are not an apologist because you are not defending Tudor.
I was talking about the people in the comment sections I have came across.
Of course it’s going to tarnish. It’s 925. If it wasn’t going to tarnish, it would mean Tudor invented some new form of Silver, and it wouldn’t be called 925…because EVERYONE KNOWS 925 TARNISHES.
shame they lied, should have been honest from the jump. I mean, it’s a good looking watch. Just don’t lie about it. 🤦♂️
Hi we would love to send you our products to clean watches
Hi there thank you so much for the offer! As it turns out I'm actually going to be keeping the tarnish to see what it ends up looking like after a long time but if I decide to remove the tarnish I'll be sure to keep you in mind!!!
@@thewatchidiot thank you for the reply FYI love your channel
Also we have a cleaner that does not remove the tarnish
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Silver 92,5% tarnishes……same bronze…..
Thankfully silver tarnish doesnt look quite like the bronze patina!
A watch that tarnishes? No thanks! Also it’s a shame they increased the height of the case
Lol yeah definitely not a watch for everyone but for those who love it they really love it! Yeah lots of raised eye brows with the height increase but thankfully it made no difference on the wrist compared to my BB58 Blue!
#tarnishgate
looool I think that sounds just about right!
Yea... I don't want this watch anymore. I'll wait for the platinum black bay 58. lol Tudors response to Fratello is pretty BS.
Oh man a platinum BB58 would look awesome! Yeah the response was a bit unusual bc they were so adamant about it not tarnishing yet they didn't acknowledge the contradictory tarnished watches at all! Let's see what happens going forward
@@thewatchidiot the shot you showed with the black speckle all over the flank is pretty frightening. Looks like really bad mold.