@@Not_me9791 you damn right!! Personally, I’m not feeling the tarnish! At least not this early. If this watch were 25 years old or beyond, whatever. I would be quite pissed. This gives me a con to consider as I have been looking awfully hard at Tudors.
Well, then again, they insist on using aluminum bezel inserts on bronze watches, which will induce accelerated degradation on the said insert through galvanic corrosion. Check what happened to the first versions of the Black Bay Bronze when used in salt water. After finding out about that, Tudor has basically lost any credibility for me for the alloys they use. The obvious solution there was to have a ceramic insert.
Good video. I'm now more convinced that I do not like tarnishing on a watch. I realize some folks like the "aged' look. But it just looks a little dirty to my less-sophisticated eyes. However, I am interested in seeing far much more tarnishing will be achieved. I say, yes wear it in the pool. Wear it everywhere. It would be great to see what it looks like in another 6 months.
lol yeah tarnish is definitely not a look that everyone will like so you're not alone! I for one dont like the look of bronze patina at all so I'm wish you on that! But yeah i really want to push the watch to see where the tarnish will go. Summer would have been more ideal but hopefully the winter can bring some surprises! Pool time would make things very interesting for sure while still being a "natural" way to speed things up in the sense that swimming is a normal thing to do! Lots more to come with this 925 for sure👍
Conclusion : silver does tarnish. Not really a surprise. Nice try from Tudor, but maybe a standard stainless steel Black Bay with grey dial and grey bezel would be the best option.
I just picked one up 2 weeks ago and zero tarnish. Wearing it every day all day. Buddy of mine also has one 3 months in and thankfully nothing on that one either. If it does I won’t be mad but just tossing this out for what it’s worth.
Thanks to your channel I pulled the trigger on a blackbay 58 black about 3 weeks ago. I absolutely love it. Since then, it hasn't left my wrist. Through mangroves, rain forest trekking, pool and sea swims, kayaking and snorkeling, it hasn't missed a beat. Thanks so much for convincing me to get it!!
Oh wow thanks for sharing man and I'm glad I was able to help out a bit! And thats so awesome that you immediately took it on some adventures! I definitely want to take mine on some adventures soon bc thats what watches like these are all about in the end! I'm sure your BB58 will live a very interesting life!
@@thewatchidiot Thanks so much for the reply!! You definitely need to take it on some adventures. Its gives the watch character and you make great momories with it
Sure thing and yeah I totally agree, although my subconscious is always set to baby mode, I'm trying to get my Pelagos some well deserved scratches! Slowly but surely! 😁
@@thewatchidiot @Jon Konig I have to agree the 925 will change it's view as you lucky guys enjoy your journeys with the watch. If or when I get a 925 I will have a conundrum as well TWI, my Pelagos or BB58 925. That would be a hard choice for me. I think the 925 would experience more of the social journey but my adventures would be with the Pelagos but I may switch them. Jon, I'm not sure but your name is very similar to a certain commander in a 1970's sci-fi TV series.
Lol yeah it's the eternal question of which watch to wear for adventures! Definitely a big reason why I want to consolidate the collection, no more choice paralysis!!
Thank you!!! I almost purchased this yesterday, fell in love immediately. Glad I didn't purchase it. I love the cool tones of the watch and would be bummed if it tarnished to warm. Such a bummer, the bright silver is striking and the overall design of the watch is beautiful.
I gotta say, I don't think this would bother me. It looks good, it's aged with you. I don't think Tudor should claim it won't tarnish but I think this takes on a better look than the bronze models.
I'm a four months behind you in the tarnish tales. Still honeymooning over it, although I see your point about the warm/cool clash. I've been wearing it most days, and my main "complaint" is that silver is softer than steel. I knew that going in, but I'm a klutz and ding my watches on the reg. It picks up wee scratches and such more easily than steel. Still Loving it though. I agree that a blackish uniform tarnish would be awesome. Water and hot tubs??? I'll do some research... Also, if you decide to get it cleaned, store it with silica gel packs afterwards. It will absolutely minimize any tarnishing while stored. Great video as always!
Thank you so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video man! Ah yeah the finish of the watch in the early days is just incredible! Have you started to see any signs of tarnish on your 925 considering your regular use? Yeah the softness of silver is very much apparent but like you i was aware of that before going in and I actually like that it can scratch easily bc I naturally baby my watches but I want to get scratches on them bc i think it makes the watch look cool!
I also bash my watches despite my best intentions not to do so. I really, really baby my timepieces but, unavoidably, they get wacked at some point. This led me to switching to Damasko watches, which are literally still without a scuff after years of wear.
@@thewatchidiot I've definitely seen a bit of tarnishing, but nothing extreme or patchy. I wash it in warm water a couple times a week and it's been in lake water a few times. Still nothing much. But that unearthly glow is less apparent haha. It would be awesome if Uncle Seiko or someone would make an aftermarket silver bracelet to fit it. If it was primarily brushed I think it would be pretty easy to get them to "match" patina-wise after a couple weeks. Regardless of alloy, 925 silver will be very very similar. Much closer than the steel one from the steel BB58.
@@lancelloyd7429 Touché! … and Sinn is on my list 😊. I started with Damasko as they were cheaper than Sinn here in Canada at the time. Apparently it is the opposite situation in Germany. I honestly think that German tool watches are sleepers… they fly under the radar due to the fact that they are so unpretentious. I cannot believe that my Damaskos are still brand new … not even the slightest mark after years of daily wear. Remarkable!
It is tempting as i have a silver celtic cross. The dark patina and polished areas look great. Would consider engraving celtic patern on the sides to use the patina.
The trouble with having a silver watch bracelet is silver being softer than steel would be with the links stretching and wear great review you have saved me I was thinking of getting one but that silver is tarnish is always going to be a problem for me 👍
Well, a case with 92.5% of silver in it was always going to tarnish, no matter what Tudor said about this alloy. But my biggest gripe with this version would be how easily it scratches, as silver is substantially softer than stainless steel. There's undeniably a "cool" factor about the silver and the bronze BB58, but the fact of the matter is that these are inferior alloys to 316L / 904L steel for watchmaking.
This has become my grail watch recently. I own a LOT of silver, some of it covered in (tiny LOL) diamonds and I have grown to absolutely love the natural change over time. None of it has changed color like that, even with my oily skin but I would still really like to add the 925 to my collection as my “let’s wear the nice stuff today” watch, and see it change with skin contact and daily wear. Glad to see how yours is doing!
That's awesome to hear and thanks for sharing! Yeah I've had some experience with silver before and the color and look of the tarnish is more appealing to me than bronze's patina so paired with the grey dial and bezel it was a no brained for me! Lol it makes sense why the 925 is your grail and I'm sure it'll look awesome paired with all your silver jewelry when time comes to take it out! The organic aspect of it growing with you is definitely pretty cool and hopefully I can get mine to naturally tarnish quicker bc I want to see the end result! 😁
@@thewatchidiot had a thought......instead of putiing it on a bracelet. What about a vintage bund italian honeywood leather watch straps with antique metal ornaments. Then you are just looking for silver things to put on the leather. You could get pieces on holiday in India, Malaysia, Thailand or Bali.
My ownership of the 925( on Tudor nato ) has been six months now, my experience is…it has taken on a warm silver colour patina. I am very happy with this piece in my collection and surprised that it has not been in more demand. I guess the reason is everyone wants a bracelet and then accessorise with aftermarket straps & that would have been my preference too. I have now put the 925 away for the winter months and moved on to enjoying the BB Chrono Opaline dial on bracelet for the dark mths ahead. Looking forward to your next update.
Ah thats good to hear that youre enjoying your 925 and that it hasnt tarnished too intensely! But yeah a bracelet would have convinced many more to buy it but the softness of silver and the tarnish potential were surely amongst the main reasons to not get the watch. But even with those risks I still think its a great watch and that its unlike anything else on the market for better or for worse! The BB Chrono is an awesome watch and an awesome choice for the winter! I appreciate the support and lets see how the tarnish will progress through the winter!
The tarnish is awesome. Expected. Despite Tudor's words. Unsure what they were thinking making such silly statements. It's silver. Of course it'll tarnish. Part of the charm. Certainly on my Want List. Love it.
I've never had of a silver alloy but I would think they did that for hardness but silver, like bronze WILL patina. It's inevitable. Just get some silver polish like in the old days for "silver wear" and you'll be good to go
From my own experience with non-watch objects made from 925 silver: Yeah... it absolutely will tarnish. Easy fix: Get a tin of Nevr Dull. Works like a charm on all sorts of metals/silverware for me.
Two choices: polish it regularly, OR (the better choice) let it develop a beautiful patina which will become a shiny gunmetal greyish-black: six months isn’t nearly long enough. In my experience take 18 months minimum. The middle point is admittedly pretty ugly.
I got my BB 925 three months ago and when it comes to my watch there is no tarnishing at all. It looks like on the first day which really surprises me since I prepared myself mentally after watching your videos and reading the respective blogs for it to lose its look. I would be interested to see what happens if you send it in! Another great video of yours!
@LuisM02 how about now? I've seen used examples for sale in various conditions, some seem to have tarnish, others not. I wonder if Tudors' propriety alloy mix was fuddled on some batches.
Been looking forward to an update on this watch! Didn't realize the dial and bezel where gray, I thought they were a chocolate color. Gray is much better than brown.
As a collector of vintage watches, I own a few silver watches. They all get a nice patina. At some point they need a gentle cleaning, and I use a Connoisseur's silver cloth and they look great for a few months after. I think people need to think of this as natural silver patina, and get over it a bit. My 58 925 arrives in 2 days. ;)
I wouldn't try to accelerate the tarnish or have it sent out for cleaning. Give it another 6 months at least, just to see what you get with normal wear. You're the pioneer on this front, so I say stick to it and document this for future reference.
Yeah I definitely won't be doing any artificial tarnishing with it and yeah this journey is already 6 months in so I agree it's best to keep it going! There are so many helpful 925 videos to make but each of them step on each other's toes!!! Fingers crossed that the tarnish picks up!
I just saw the display 925 at my local Tudor boutique and it was obviously tarnished even though it's unworn. They've stopped telling customers that the 925 won't tarnish.
Yeah makes sense that they've stopped saying it's tarnish resistant since it's far from guaranteed. Would have been nice for Tudor to recognize the issue as well!
I think this has confirmed to me that while I initially really like this watch it probably isn’t for me. I don’t mind tarnish but don’t really find this tarnish desirable.
Like other have said, sterling silver, no matter the specific alloy of manufacture will tarnish under certain variable conditions. Diet and pH levels will always be the biggest factor. I learned a trick a while ago using baking soda and water to make a watery paste. cleans off the tarnish very effectivley.
I bought one today, so time will tell re the tarnishing, but when I asked Tudor they told me to just rub the case with a silver polishing cloth and it will go back to the day I purchased it. Why haven't you tried this?
I personally love the tarnish look of the case and can understand that it isn't for everyone. But I agree with you that the warm tarnish doesn't really go well with the cool gray dial with bright white indices.
It seems you're really enjoying the aging aspect of the silver case. You'd better go for a good independent watchmaker when servicing because any Rolex Service Center will definetely return it completely untarnished and rebrushed. Make clear for the watchmaker that you want the patina untouched. Nice and pleasant video, as always!
Oh yeah no doubt about it! It has always bothered me that the rolex service center doesnt honor the owners requests and that they refinish the watch just because everything needs to be done to their standards. scratches on the watch are a huge part of a watch's story and the same thing would go for the tarnish. Thanks man I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@thewatchidiot Some centers will always replace aged dials, hands and insert bezels and it takes a lot of the value of vintage or neovintage watches. Some centers are now accepting recommendations from the owner, but only to a certain extent. They may keep the parts if they're aged but in perfect condition or replace them and allow you to get the original ones back if you're willing to pay 40% of the price of the new part, a very strange thing, to say the least. Some will just refuse to even touch the watch if you ask them not to replace patina-aged parts, a complete lack of standard procedures and that's a really unpredictable situation for the owner. As for external appearance of cases and bracelets they will always make it look like new, unfortunately. It's always a journey, I'm sending my vintage/neovintage watches to an independent, he's busy because he's a really good and honest watchmaker with the right contacts to get OEM parts, but it's a long long wait.
@@jim2111 I fully agrre. That's why vintage and neovintage owners tend to go the independent way. Only time can give that genuine old look and any potential future buyer will probably distrust and avoid a like new vintage watch, it just looks like something is wrong or it's a fake. It's a real dealbreaker unless it's a well-documented safe-stored NOS watch.
@@juniorgallo8786 One great thing about Omega service, they send all the original parts back. I have a PO 8500 that was serviced this year and I have every part they replaced which I thought was awesome.
Ok, well I just bought this and I own a bronze watch. I have Wright’s cream for both metals. It takes a couple of minutes and you’re done. Watch looks like new. It’s fun to spend some intimate time with your watch 😂. Not sure why you would think your only choice is to send it back to Tudor.
Just got the gold bb 58 for a great deal on secondary. Love this watch. Almost bought the 925 about 6 months ago. Glad I didn’t I don’t know if I could have put up with the tarnish. Great video
I once had a titanium watch and that was a very nice metal to use in a watch. No, I actually had two titanium watches, come to think of it. One featured some elements in (PVD?) yellow gold and that mix was really classy. Other than scratches, which titanium has its own way of dealing with (poorly), I'd go for titanium over silver (which I don't suppose reacts nicely to scratches, either).
Good video, it almost turned me off to getting the watch, but went ahead anyway as I really like the look. Hope mine doesn’t tarnish too much. Will probably use anti tarnish agent if it starts to tarnish as I like the look untarnished. I have had it a couple of weeks, worn it in the pool and ocean almost every day, still looks great. One thing I have not seen anyone comment on is the movements accuracy. Over about a ten day period of monitoring, it gained 10 seconds, very consistently roughly 1 second a day. I have a number of accurate watches but this one is the best and most consistent.
Yellowish tarnish is to be expected from a 925 Silver alloy with Zink or Aluminium as an example indicated in the report on "Tarnish resisting silver alloys" published in 1927, it can be found on Google. Metallurgists have been questioning whether the process of silver tarnish can be slowed down or eliminated by alloying and metallurgical treatment for over a century but as long as a 925 silver alloy is used there is only so much than can be done in terms of introducing tarnish resisting materials. Also your personal use of deodorants, soap and skin/sweat chemistry in general will affect the rate of tarnishing. This can explain why some people have better luck with little to no tarnish even after months of use.
I have really enjoyed the saga. Please keep doing these as the watch continues to tarnish. It would be interesting to see what Tudor would say if you sent it in. Because, you know, the watch would never ever tarnish.
Sterling silver will always tarnish. Have you ever seen or owned a silver coin? I think years from now the silver under the sapphire (not touched by human hands) will tarnish beautifully. Have you ever seen an untouched silver eagle coin that tarnished? They sometimes get rainbow colors and can be very desirable. I like this watch.
Two months in for me and looks brand new with daily wear. No idea how folks are managing to get this tarnished. Also currently my favorites casual watch. I shower with it. Two trips to the pool and it looks brand new.
I never understood the passion for wearing bracelets. I do wear watches on bracelets from time to time but for a daily watch I find them too heavy and frankly uncomfortable on the skin after a while. I find the most comfortable straps are Nato’s but also a good quality leather. Rubber also feels uncomfortable after prolonged use.
Yeah it comes down to personal preference but weirdly enough before this past spring I pretty much never wore watches on bracelets! Idk what changed but now i cant get over how awesome bracelets feel so who knows what will happen in the future lol!
@@thewatchidiot I’m sure something about my skin making them uncomfortable. They feel great for short periods like 1-2 hours, but after that they feel awful on my hand. The added weight doesn’t help either, I find old vintage thin bracelets much more comfortable that thick and tight new ones
I love steel bracelets. While I feel you, after a fortnight, that gets to be an abrasive relationship. Different strokes for different folks notwithstanding, there's something comfortable about straps which helps me forget about the watch till I need to know the time. I guess each ticket into paradise commands some opportunity cost.
Yeah different strokes indeed and honestly before this spring i was very much like you, I would hardly every wear my watches on bracelets (other than a select few) and rubber straps and nato straps were my absolute go to. No idea what changed in me but now I want every watch to be on a bracelet!
Thanks for sharing this journey once again. Very honest and straightforward. I wonder if the same level of tarnishing occurred on the buckles as well. I do wonder if kukident would work with the 925 as it did with the bronze BB58.
Sure thing I'm glad to hear you found it to be straight forward! And thats a very good point you make on the buckle and to answer the question at a glance it doesnt look like its tarnished very much at all considering that its been in a drawer since pretty much day 1. I really should use it as a testing platform!
My guess is that any tarnish is due to the owner's diet, salt levels, sweat and minerals and so on. I have had mine for 5-6 months and hasn't tarnished at all. Not one bit. Love the watch and the fact that it is special and oozes quality.
My favorite Tudor is the Prince Big block chronograph second favorite the Tudor Monte Carlo heritage chronograph. I don't hate the black bay . Tudor is just playing the black bay out great video you have a new subscriber.
If you want it to tarnish instantly, boil eggs, crush the shells and put the watch in a airtight box with the shells. The sulphur will tarnish the silver instantly.
Thanks for posting such a clear and transparent review. I originally loved the sound of a silver watch and read the Tudor saying that “it would not tarnish” and seeing the tarnish of your watch, I would be incredibly disappointed in a tarnished watch that is far different than the original bright white silver color. Unfortunately, the tarnish on your watch will impact your ability to sell that watch and has severely devalued the watch. Knowing from your unfortunate experience, I would not buy a Tudor 925 and invest my money elsewhere. Perhaps you have a recourse with Tudor.
Over the weekend I went looking to see if I could find a 925, to my surprise found one... fell in love instantly and made the purchase, its my first Tudor and it's such a unique piece, also like you a massive lover of Grey & that brushed look!. Having seen all your video's about the patina on the 925 it something I certainly took into consideration but I know I'll be keeping the piece for many years to come.. and look at it as the watch growing its own character and maturing along the journey with you.
Oh wow huge congratulations on your 925! I'm so excited for you bc its seriously such a good looking watch as an entire package and the look and feel of it when its brand new is just too good! But I'm glad that i was able to help out a bit in terms of managing expectations bc in the end tarnish can be interesting in terms of something that grows with you but also on the flip side if it doesnt tarnish then itll look perfect and silver forever which is great too! Many more updates to come on my 925 so I'd love to hear about how your 925 progresses as time passes!
the 925, assuming its true sterling (but coin silver can tarnish too) will tarnish when exposed to open air. You don’t even need to wear it to see tarnish on it, just leave it out in open air.
I’d really like to see what happens if you returned the watch to Tudor. My guess is that they coated these watches with some sort of clear protective layer to keep them from tarnishing, but perhaps the coating on many was not thick or consistent enough? I wonder if they would simply swap the case out with another. I also wonder if later production models have the same characteristics as yours?
mine was black with tarnish in 3 months. The AD sent it back to Tudor, I am still waiting on their response after 2 months. not happy to say the least.
@CanadianWatchGuy yeah I definitely am very curious about sending it in to see what the process will be like and thinking about the original silver sheen coming back is pretty awesome. However, i dont think I'll be doing it for quite sometime just because I want to see how far this tarnish will go now that i'm already 6 months into the journey! Also now that we're going into winter I think that its going to get more wrist time as well which should help with the tarnish hopefully. I wish I had a second 925 to experience both sides lol! Also you ask many legit questions and its unfortunate that we'll pretty much never get answers to them! I would love to know if the silver alloy has changed after the tarnished examples came up and I think it would help make prospective buyers more confident in buying a 925 knowing that Tudor has done something (if they already have) Also hearing experiences like @Larry Marin 's is definitely making me not want to take a chance which is unfortunate considering that its just a tarnish removal not a full on repair that needs parts that may be back ordered or something
@@sifu61 It's called an "e-coat" which is a clear coating used on silver to help protect against tarnish, but that wears off in time. THat's what they do on silver jewelry, they either e-coat it (cheap) or rhodium plate it (makes it look bright white) ....but in time all will oxidize.
Hi! That video is a revelation! Before the summer I had that watch on my wrist, with the taupe NATO strap, and it was hypnotically amazing. But as I can see now, the magic is gone. It must have been done in stainless steel. To whom it may concern, I have a 6.69 inch wrist, but the face or length is larger than the width or profile of it. Thing is that the Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight MT5402 with a stainless steel bracelet looked small on my wrist. Instead the Black Bay Fifty-Eight 925 with a NATO band looked perfect. A curious fact. On the video, the first view of the watch shows a gray vintage leather strap that looks much better than the original (and unpleasant) brown strap. Today I got a mysterious email from the Windup Watch Shop and now I can I'd bet double against single that it's the “Worn & Wound Model 2 Premium - Stone Gray”. A truly original and exclusive strap. Thank you very much!
Not sure what Tudor mixes with the silver to make it hard enough for a watch case? Do note that human sweat has sodium chloride (salt) which is reactive with silver. If you want to constantly shine your watch, perhaps the Tudor is an excellent choice. If not, go steel.
I hate to say it but I feel I dodged two bullets with Tudor recently - I was seriously pondering one of these but took my name off the list when I saw your first video and I almost bought a ceramic but Upticks drama has me glad I passed on that one as well. At this juncture, I still like the ceramic but am dubious on the name given this and Uptick's experience.
Yeah thats the way it is! I am very tempted to get it in a pool to "naturally" speed up the tarnish and youre right, I can always send it back to Tudor to have it look brand new!
Toning is a natural affect of silver. It is a natural patina that develops on ALL silver items. It is a desirable affect and a natural one when silver is exposed to moisture or air. Look at coins for the beauty that can be achieved in toning. You could end up with a very colorful watch in the end. Expect toning to happen. Or don’t buy a silver watch.
Great video bro! Just recently I got to handle the 925 and it's truly beautiful. But!!! I have to say is love my blue more lol personally. Do you regret selling your blue?
excuse me the press photos you say are not accurate regarding the leather strap being to brown are so accurate as the leather strap is certainly brown….to brown….could have been much better. After some intensive search I found some matching grey leather straps from Kaufmann, as the original leather strap is so terrible. I should have bought the NATO one and buy the leather straps seperate as the nylon one fits so nicely
hello, love the watch so i am planning to get myself one. just want to ask one thing before making the purchase, i saw the watch onsite and seems like the tip of the minute needle is a bit tilted downwards, is it because of the dome glass type or is it suppose to be tilted? Thanks! oh BTW i am talkin about the 43mm bronze model
These RUclips videos where guys wear their watches pretty much on he back of their hand instead of the traditional wrist position always looks so painful. When they rotate their hand with full crown to back of hand contact, I always wince. Tarnish aside Black Bays hit so many points correctly- size, styling, and quality of timekeeping.
Not just you, but I've noticed a lot of guys (young/old) wear their watches quite low on their wrist. Almost to the point where if you flexed the back of your hand upwards you'd jar the crown into your wrist. I guess it's preference or maybe just to take a glamour shot but even my fantastic watch man (JohnWalker) recommends wearing it higher up your wrist to stop crown issues over long term wear. (I wear a JLC Reverso no crown guard)..
Yeah for me its comfort bc i cannot stand the feeling of a watch that cannot move on my wrist! While i can understand why technically wearing a watch low could adversely affect the crown, I do think that its an issue that is pretty negligible bc I've never had any issues nor has my dad over his many years. (especially with screw down crowns) That being said I will absolutely use it as excuse to get myself a Reverso! Its an awesome watch, its been on my list for years. The only reason why I dont already have one is because I know myself and I know that it wouldnt get the wrist time it would deserve against all my divers😟 One day tho!
Have you tried the Polident trick? The watch advisor did it with a Tudor black 58 bay bronze. The bronze goes back to almost new (it depends how long the watch is soaked). Rubber b has a blocked integrated strap that would hide the space between the lugs that is noticeably darker on your watch.
Thanks man I' glad you enjoyed the video! And yeah it looks great for sure I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the tarnish can come in quicker during the winter somehow!
None of the after market bracelets fit. Tried strapcode and uncle Seiko, but the lug holes don't align with the case (strapcode was way off, Uncle Seiko was closer) I'm surprised your OEM bracelet fit.
Yeah it technically fit but it definitely didnt feel secure enough for long term wear. Unfortunately it doesnt have the cutout at the base of the midcase where the bracelet sits in. I do wish there was a solid bracelet option for it! Even if there was one I dont think I'd be able to use it bc the case has tarnished so much loool!
lol thats as good a reason as there ever will be! Glad to see that there are others who appreciate the brushed finish as much as I do! Definitely was a game changer for this particular watch😁
A great 6 months review of the 925 TWI. It's interesting that like you I was looking forward to the tarnish but I would also have missed the bright silver colour out of the box. As we can see it's sort of between two stools at the moment, neither bright nor dark and I agree it doesn't quite match the bezel, dial or white hands and markers. A tough call, get Tudor to clean it up (maybe they will replace the case?) or see what happens over the Winter but for that you would have to wear it of course or leave it soaking in something that might attack the aluminium anodised bezel in some way. Wearing it would not put me off but I guess I would not enjoy it 'quite' as much as I did. A great video and a great shout out for the G-Shock as well in there. I'm still resisting the Casioak metal.
Thanks Anthony!! And you're absolutely right I'm just caught in the awkward teen phase of it's life 😂 I think that I'll hold off on sending it to Tudor just because the winter is going to be the main source of consistent wrist time which will make for interesting updates but sending it in to Tudor and updating everyone in the process would be interesting too!! The 925 is stuck in the middle of so many things at the moment!! Lol yes Gshocks ftw they completely dominated my wrist for 2 months pushing out the 925 and so many other contenders but yeah the metal casioaks really do look great especially the grey version for me (of course lol) a friend of mine has one and I think I'll be doing a video on it soon but there's just such a giant backlog of videos I want to do! I think it'll jump the line tho 👍
@@thewatchidiot One thing for sure is that your experience of the 925 has not 'tarnished' my want for one, there have just been a few other pieces that jumped the queue as the 925 is still in short supply in the UK. I even picked up a PRX last weekend when visiting my sister in the midlands. I compared the automatic black and blue dial versions, such a well finished piece and very slim for the PM80 (reworked 2824) movement. I got the blue waffle dial. I must remember to bring it home next time I visit her. I'm an idiot!
That's great to hear that the 925 is still in the running! But yeah I can totally see how it keeps getting pushed back bc it's very much a "nice to have" watch even within the realm of all watches being "nice to have" to start with lol! Congrats on the auto PRX! It's a seriously cool watch and it wears amazingly so I think youll really enjoy it once you start wearing it lol!
How is the reverse side tarnishing? You don't show any images of the reverse. I assume it's tarnishing more since it's in constant contact with your skin.
Surprisingly its just about the same as the rest of the case which is probably why I forgot to include it in the video this time around lol! I'd have expected to see more tarnish on the underside for sure tho
Should be called the Tudor Silver Surfer Because the silver dies very quickly. I'll be honest though, that reddish brown sheen you have, I like it ALOT. More contrast and it catches the light. The silver is better but I like them both ways.
I don't mind the tarnished look, but I do find it very strange that Tudor specifically said it wouldn't tarnish and then stuck with that message even when it was clear it wasn't true!
Hey there. I did watch this vid some time ago, thanks for bringing us the update. Now I’ve seen the watch in the metal I am a little keen on it I just say. In your opinion would you be able to keep this looking new and lustrous…? I have a little ocd… Cheers, Dave.
I can't believe Tudor said silver wouldn't tarnish. I've had QC issues with a BB58. Dodgy thread on the crown and tight spot on the bezel, both from new. Horrendous QC, warranty, lack of communication and after sales all terrible.
I do not mind if my 30yr old coin has tarnish. Not sure i want my new watch to tarnish inside 1yr. Fwiw , i have a Seiko 6309 from the mid 80s. Not a bit of tarnish.
Point is, Tudor said it wouldnt tarnish and it does.
Yup very true and we still have no info about anything relating to this tarnish! Unfortunately I dont see that changing anytime soon!
@@thewatchidiot send them back the watch and request a new one
@r2l100 well, they have to be careful about what they write
@@Not_me9791 you damn right!! Personally, I’m not feeling the tarnish! At least not this early. If this watch were 25 years old or beyond, whatever. I would be quite pissed. This gives me a con to consider as I have been looking awfully hard at Tudors.
Well, then again, they insist on using aluminum bezel inserts on bronze watches, which will induce accelerated degradation on the said insert through galvanic corrosion. Check what happened to the first versions of the Black Bay Bronze when used in salt water. After finding out about that, Tudor has basically lost any credibility for me for the alloys they use. The obvious solution there was to have a ceramic insert.
Good video. I'm now more convinced that I do not like tarnishing on a watch. I realize some folks like the "aged' look. But it just looks a little dirty to my less-sophisticated eyes. However, I am interested in seeing far much more tarnishing will be achieved. I say, yes wear it in the pool. Wear it everywhere. It would be great to see what it looks like in another 6 months.
lol yeah tarnish is definitely not a look that everyone will like so you're not alone! I for one dont like the look of bronze patina at all so I'm wish you on that! But yeah i really want to push the watch to see where the tarnish will go. Summer would have been more ideal but hopefully the winter can bring some surprises! Pool time would make things very interesting for sure while still being a "natural" way to speed things up in the sense that swimming is a normal thing to do! Lots more to come with this 925 for sure👍
Conclusion : silver does tarnish. Not really a surprise.
Nice try from Tudor, but maybe a standard stainless steel Black Bay with grey dial and grey bezel would be the best option.
Yeah a steel version with this grey dial and bezel would be awesome! Although I would really miss the fully brushed case
I just picked one up 2 weeks ago and zero tarnish. Wearing it every day all day. Buddy of mine also has one 3 months in and thankfully nothing on that one either. If it does I won’t be mad but just tossing this out for what it’s worth.
This is a staggeringly beautiful watch, I would buy it in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
Thanks to your channel I pulled the trigger on a blackbay 58 black about 3 weeks ago. I absolutely love it. Since then, it hasn't left my wrist. Through mangroves, rain forest trekking, pool and sea swims, kayaking and snorkeling, it hasn't missed a beat. Thanks so much for convincing me to get it!!
Oh wow thanks for sharing man and I'm glad I was able to help out a bit! And thats so awesome that you immediately took it on some adventures! I definitely want to take mine on some adventures soon bc thats what watches like these are all about in the end! I'm sure your BB58 will live a very interesting life!
@@thewatchidiot Thanks so much for the reply!! You definitely need to take it on some adventures. Its gives the watch character and you make great momories with it
Sure thing and yeah I totally agree, although my subconscious is always set to baby mode, I'm trying to get my Pelagos some well deserved scratches! Slowly but surely! 😁
@@thewatchidiot @Jon Konig I have to agree the 925 will change it's view as you lucky guys enjoy your journeys with the watch. If or when I get a 925 I will have a conundrum as well TWI, my Pelagos or BB58 925. That would be a hard choice for me. I think the 925 would experience more of the social journey but my adventures would be with the Pelagos but I may switch them.
Jon, I'm not sure but your name is very similar to a certain commander in a 1970's sci-fi TV series.
Lol yeah it's the eternal question of which watch to wear for adventures! Definitely a big reason why I want to consolidate the collection, no more choice paralysis!!
Thank you!!! I almost purchased this yesterday, fell in love immediately. Glad I didn't purchase it. I love the cool tones of the watch and would be bummed if it tarnished to warm. Such a bummer, the bright silver is striking and the overall design of the watch is beautiful.
I gotta say, I don't think this would bother me. It looks good, it's aged with you. I don't think Tudor should claim it won't tarnish but I think this takes on a better look than the bronze models.
I'm a four months behind you in the tarnish tales. Still honeymooning over it, although I see your point about the warm/cool clash. I've been wearing it most days, and my main "complaint" is that silver is softer than steel. I knew that going in, but I'm a klutz and ding my watches on the reg. It picks up wee scratches and such more easily than steel. Still Loving it though. I agree that a blackish uniform tarnish would be awesome. Water and hot tubs??? I'll do some research... Also, if you decide to get it cleaned, store it with silica gel packs afterwards. It will absolutely minimize any tarnishing while stored. Great video as always!
Thank you so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video man! Ah yeah the finish of the watch in the early days is just incredible! Have you started to see any signs of tarnish on your 925 considering your regular use?
Yeah the softness of silver is very much apparent but like you i was aware of that before going in and I actually like that it can scratch easily bc I naturally baby my watches but I want to get scratches on them bc i think it makes the watch look cool!
I also bash my watches despite my best intentions not to do so. I really, really baby my timepieces but, unavoidably, they get wacked at some point. This led me to switching to Damasko watches, which are literally still without a scuff after years of wear.
@@thewatchidiot I've definitely seen a bit of tarnishing, but nothing extreme or patchy. I wash it in warm water a couple times a week and it's been in lake water a few times. Still nothing much. But that unearthly glow is less apparent haha. It would be awesome if Uncle Seiko or someone would make an aftermarket silver bracelet to fit it. If it was primarily brushed I think it would be pretty easy to get them to "match" patina-wise after a couple weeks. Regardless of alloy, 925 silver will be very very similar. Much closer than the steel one from the steel BB58.
@@edteach3r German tool watches are tough as nails. I have a Sinn and it's the same. Nigh impervious. Damasko is on my list!
@@lancelloyd7429 Touché! … and Sinn is on my list 😊. I started with Damasko as they were cheaper than Sinn here in Canada at the time. Apparently it is the opposite situation in Germany. I honestly think that German tool watches are sleepers… they fly under the radar due to the fact that they are so unpretentious. I cannot believe that my Damaskos are still brand new … not even the slightest mark after years of daily wear. Remarkable!
It is tempting as i have a silver celtic cross. The dark patina and polished areas look great. Would consider engraving celtic patern on the sides to use the patina.
The trouble with having a silver watch bracelet is silver being softer than steel would be with the links stretching and wear great review you have saved me I was thinking of getting one but that silver is tarnish is always going to be a problem for me 👍
Well, a case with 92.5% of silver in it was always going to tarnish, no matter what Tudor said about this alloy. But my biggest gripe with this version would be how easily it scratches, as silver is substantially softer than stainless steel. There's undeniably a "cool" factor about the silver and the bronze BB58, but the fact of the matter is that these are inferior alloys to 316L / 904L steel for watchmaking.
This has become my grail watch recently. I own a LOT of silver, some of it covered in (tiny LOL) diamonds and I have grown to absolutely love the natural change over time. None of it has changed color like that, even with my oily skin but I would still really like to add the 925 to my collection as my “let’s wear the nice stuff today” watch, and see it change with skin contact and daily wear. Glad to see how yours is doing!
That's awesome to hear and thanks for sharing! Yeah I've had some experience with silver before and the color and look of the tarnish is more appealing to me than bronze's patina so paired with the grey dial and bezel it was a no brained for me!
Lol it makes sense why the 925 is your grail and I'm sure it'll look awesome paired with all your silver jewelry when time comes to take it out! The organic aspect of it growing with you is definitely pretty cool and hopefully I can get mine to naturally tarnish quicker bc I want to see the end result! 😁
@@thewatchidiot had a thought......instead of putiing it on a bracelet. What about a vintage bund italian honeywood leather watch straps with antique metal ornaments. Then you are just looking for silver things to put on the leather. You could get pieces on holiday in India, Malaysia, Thailand or Bali.
My ownership of the 925( on Tudor nato ) has been six months now, my experience is…it has taken on a warm silver colour patina. I am very happy with this piece in my collection and surprised that it has not been in more demand. I guess the reason is everyone wants a bracelet and then accessorise with aftermarket straps & that would have been my preference too.
I have now put the 925 away for the winter months and moved on to enjoying the BB Chrono Opaline dial on bracelet for the dark mths ahead.
Looking forward to your next update.
Ah thats good to hear that youre enjoying your 925 and that it hasnt tarnished too intensely! But yeah a bracelet would have convinced many more to buy it but the softness of silver and the tarnish potential were surely amongst the main reasons to not get the watch. But even with those risks I still think its a great watch and that its unlike anything else on the market for better or for worse! The BB Chrono is an awesome watch and an awesome choice for the winter! I appreciate the support and lets see how the tarnish will progress through the winter!
The tarnish is awesome. Expected. Despite Tudor's words. Unsure what they were thinking making such silly statements. It's silver. Of course it'll tarnish. Part of the charm. Certainly on my Want List. Love it.
I've never had of a silver alloy but I would think they did that for hardness but silver, like bronze WILL patina. It's inevitable. Just get some silver polish like in the old days for "silver wear" and you'll be good to go
Well, Tudor say it wouldnt... Btw there is a Stowa bronze flieger that apparently doesn't patinate... Can someone confirm?
From my own experience with non-watch objects made from 925 silver: Yeah... it absolutely will tarnish. Easy fix: Get a tin of Nevr Dull. Works like a charm on all sorts of metals/silverware for me.
Two choices: polish it regularly, OR (the better choice) let it develop a beautiful patina which will become a shiny gunmetal greyish-black: six months isn’t nearly long enough. In my experience take 18 months minimum. The middle point is admittedly pretty ugly.
absolutely a stunning look. I love it. Thanks for your update.
Thanks man its a looker for sure and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Love love love the tarnish.....silver BB my favorite of all
I got my BB 925 three months ago and when it comes to my watch there is no tarnishing at all. It looks like on the first day which really surprises me since I prepared myself mentally after watching your videos and reading the respective blogs for it to lose its look.
I would be interested to see what happens if you send it in! Another great video of yours!
Same, two example, buddy of mine 3 months in and me 2 weeks. No tarnish to speak of whatsoever.
@LuisM02 how about now? I've seen used examples for sale in various conditions, some seem to have tarnish, others not. I wonder if Tudors' propriety alloy mix was fuddled on some batches.
Been looking forward to an update on this watch! Didn't realize the dial and bezel where gray, I thought they were a chocolate color. Gray is much better than brown.
I love the tarnished tone. Beautiful!! I have a 41 and Gold Tudor. Going to buy a 925.
As a collector of vintage watches, I own a few silver watches. They all get a nice patina. At some point they need a gentle cleaning, and I use a Connoisseur's silver cloth and they look great for a few months after. I think people need to think of this as natural silver patina, and get over it a bit. My 58 925 arrives in 2 days. ;)
I wouldn't try to accelerate the tarnish or have it sent out for cleaning. Give it another 6 months at least, just to see what you get with normal wear. You're the pioneer on this front, so I say stick to it and document this for future reference.
Yeah I definitely won't be doing any artificial tarnishing with it and yeah this journey is already 6 months in so I agree it's best to keep it going!
There are so many helpful 925 videos to make but each of them step on each other's toes!!! Fingers crossed that the tarnish picks up!
I just saw the display 925 at my local Tudor boutique and it was obviously tarnished even though it's unworn. They've stopped telling customers that the 925 won't tarnish.
Yeah makes sense that they've stopped saying it's tarnish resistant since it's far from guaranteed. Would have been nice for Tudor to recognize the issue as well!
I think this has confirmed to me that while I initially really like this watch it probably isn’t for me. I don’t mind tarnish but don’t really find this tarnish desirable.
Like other have said, sterling silver, no matter the specific alloy of manufacture will tarnish under certain variable conditions. Diet and pH levels will always be the biggest factor. I learned a trick a while ago using baking soda and water to make a watery paste. cleans off the tarnish very effectivley.
I bought one today, so time will tell re the tarnishing, but when I asked Tudor they told me to just rub the case with a silver polishing cloth and it will go back to the day I purchased it. Why haven't you tried this?
I personally love the tarnish look of the case and can understand that it isn't for everyone. But I agree with you that the warm tarnish doesn't really go well with the cool gray dial with bright white indices.
Thanks for the updates… Im a NATO or in finished leather strap guy… so no issue without having a bracelet
It seems you're really enjoying the aging aspect of the silver case. You'd better go for a good independent watchmaker when servicing because any Rolex Service Center will definetely return it completely untarnished and rebrushed. Make clear for the watchmaker that you want the patina untouched. Nice and pleasant video, as always!
Oh yeah no doubt about it! It has always bothered me that the rolex service center doesnt honor the owners requests and that they refinish the watch just because everything needs to be done to their standards. scratches on the watch are a huge part of a watch's story and the same thing would go for the tarnish. Thanks man I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@thewatchidiot Some centers will always replace aged dials, hands and insert bezels and it takes a lot of the value of vintage or neovintage watches. Some centers are now accepting recommendations from the owner, but only to a certain extent. They may keep the parts if they're aged but in perfect condition or replace them and allow you to get the original ones back if you're willing to pay 40% of the price of the new part, a very strange thing, to say the least. Some will just refuse to even touch the watch if you ask them not to replace patina-aged parts, a complete lack of standard procedures and that's a really unpredictable situation for the owner. As for external appearance of cases and bracelets they will always make it look like new, unfortunately. It's always a journey, I'm sending my vintage/neovintage watches to an independent, he's busy because he's a really good and honest watchmaker with the right contacts to get OEM parts, but it's a long long wait.
@@jim2111 I fully agrre. That's why vintage and neovintage owners tend to go the independent way. Only time can give that genuine old look and any potential future buyer will probably distrust and avoid a like new vintage watch, it just looks like something is wrong or it's a fake. It's a real dealbreaker unless it's a well-documented safe-stored NOS watch.
@@juniorgallo8786 One great thing about Omega service, they send all the original parts back. I have a PO 8500 that was serviced this year and I have every part they replaced which I thought was awesome.
@@LuisM02 That is the right thing to do, right? Keeping replaced parts is suspicious, to say the least. Cheers, mate.
Ok, well I just bought this and I own a bronze watch. I have Wright’s cream for both metals. It takes a couple of minutes and you’re done. Watch looks like new. It’s fun to spend some intimate time with your watch 😂. Not sure why you would think your only choice is to send it back to Tudor.
Just got the gold bb 58 for a great deal on secondary. Love this watch. Almost bought the 925 about 6 months ago. Glad I didn’t I don’t know if I could have put up with the tarnish. Great video
I once had a titanium watch and that was a very nice metal to use in a watch. No, I actually had two titanium watches, come to think of it. One featured some elements in (PVD?) yellow gold and that mix was really classy. Other than scratches, which titanium has its own way of dealing with (poorly), I'd go for titanium over silver (which I don't suppose reacts nicely to scratches, either).
Good video, it almost turned me off to getting the watch, but went ahead anyway as I really like the look. Hope mine doesn’t tarnish too much. Will probably use anti tarnish agent if it starts to tarnish as I like the look untarnished. I have had it a couple of weeks, worn it in the pool and ocean almost every day, still looks great. One thing I have not seen anyone comment on is the movements accuracy. Over about a ten day period of monitoring, it gained 10 seconds, very consistently roughly 1 second a day. I have a number of accurate watches but this one is the best and most consistent.
Yellowish tarnish is to be expected from a 925 Silver alloy with Zink or Aluminium as an example indicated in the report on "Tarnish resisting silver alloys" published in 1927, it can be found on Google. Metallurgists have been questioning whether the process of silver tarnish can be slowed down or eliminated by alloying and metallurgical treatment for over a century but as long as a 925 silver alloy is used there is only so much than can be done in terms of introducing tarnish resisting materials.
Also your personal use of deodorants, soap and skin/sweat chemistry in general will affect the rate of tarnishing. This can explain why some people have better luck with little to no tarnish even after months of use.
I have really enjoyed the saga. Please keep doing these as the watch continues to tarnish. It would be interesting to see what Tudor would say if you sent it in. Because, you know, the watch would never ever tarnish.
Sterling silver will always tarnish. Have you ever seen or owned a silver coin? I think years from now the silver under the sapphire (not touched by human hands) will tarnish beautifully. Have you ever seen an untouched silver eagle coin that tarnished? They sometimes get rainbow colors and can be very desirable. I like this watch.
Two months in for me and looks brand new with daily wear. No idea how folks are managing to get this tarnished. Also currently my favorites casual watch. I shower with it. Two trips to the pool and it looks brand new.
I have a solid 925 necklace that in 6 years has never tarnished but I shower each day with it on which I believe is what stops the tarnishing.
I never understood the passion for wearing bracelets. I do wear watches on bracelets from time to time but for a daily watch I find them too heavy and frankly uncomfortable on the skin after a while. I find the most comfortable straps are Nato’s but also a good quality leather. Rubber also feels uncomfortable after prolonged use.
Yeah it comes down to personal preference but weirdly enough before this past spring I pretty much never wore watches on bracelets! Idk what changed but now i cant get over how awesome bracelets feel so who knows what will happen in the future lol!
@@thewatchidiot I’m sure something about my skin making them uncomfortable. They feel great for short periods like 1-2 hours, but after that they feel awful on my hand. The added weight doesn’t help either, I find old vintage thin bracelets much more comfortable that thick and tight new ones
I love steel bracelets. While I feel you, after a fortnight, that gets to be an abrasive relationship. Different strokes for different folks notwithstanding, there's something comfortable about straps which helps me forget about the watch till I need to know the time. I guess each ticket into paradise commands some opportunity cost.
Yeah different strokes indeed and honestly before this spring i was very much like you, I would hardly every wear my watches on bracelets (other than a select few) and rubber straps and nato straps were my absolute go to. No idea what changed in me but now I want every watch to be on a bracelet!
@@thewatchidiot I might be converted yet!!🤣🤣
I like the tarnish. I’m tempted to get one of these
So... do you want it be tarnished or not?
I like the tarnishing, it gives it a personality.
I like the tarnish. Looks awesome, makes me want one. 😍
Personally I'd say never clean it, tarnishing is part of silver's charm.
Thanks for sharing this journey once again. Very honest and straightforward. I wonder if the same level of tarnishing occurred on the buckles as well. I do wonder if kukident would work with the 925 as it did with the bronze BB58.
Sure thing I'm glad to hear you found it to be straight forward! And thats a very good point you make on the buckle and to answer the question at a glance it doesnt look like its tarnished very much at all considering that its been in a drawer since pretty much day 1. I really should use it as a testing platform!
My guess is that any tarnish is due to the owner's diet, salt levels, sweat and minerals and so on. I have had mine for 5-6 months and hasn't tarnished at all. Not one bit. Love the watch and the fact that it is special and oozes quality.
My favorite Tudor is the Prince Big block chronograph second favorite the Tudor Monte Carlo heritage chronograph. I don't hate the black bay . Tudor is just playing the black bay out great video you have a new subscriber.
Thanks, I was on the verge of buying it. Not gonna now.
If you want it to tarnish instantly, boil eggs, crush the shells and put the watch in a airtight box with the shells. The sulphur will tarnish the silver instantly.
Thanks for posting such a clear and transparent review. I originally loved the sound of a silver watch and read the Tudor saying that “it would not tarnish” and seeing the tarnish of your watch, I would be incredibly disappointed in a tarnished watch that is far different than the original bright white silver color. Unfortunately, the tarnish on your watch will impact your ability to sell that watch and has severely devalued the watch. Knowing from your unfortunate experience, I would not buy a Tudor 925 and invest my money elsewhere. Perhaps you have a recourse with Tudor.
Love your content!
Thank you so much that means a lot to me that you're enjoying the channel!! 😁😁
Over the weekend I went looking to see if I could find a 925, to my surprise found one... fell in love instantly and made the purchase, its my first Tudor and it's such a unique piece, also like you a massive lover of Grey & that brushed look!. Having seen all your video's about the patina on the 925 it something I certainly took into consideration but I know I'll be keeping the piece for many years to come.. and look at it as the watch growing its own character and maturing along the journey with you.
Oh wow huge congratulations on your 925! I'm so excited for you bc its seriously such a good looking watch as an entire package and the look and feel of it when its brand new is just too good! But I'm glad that i was able to help out a bit in terms of managing expectations bc in the end tarnish can be interesting in terms of something that grows with you but also on the flip side if it doesnt tarnish then itll look perfect and silver forever which is great too! Many more updates to come on my 925 so I'd love to hear about how your 925 progresses as time passes!
@@thewatchidiot Thanks! Yes can't stop looking at it my 925!!... I'll certainly keep you posted how things progress with the watch. Cheers!
Mine is on a vanguard black strap. Sticks out and looks good.
How can i not subscribe to a channel that is called like this ahuegauhgaeuh, good job, nice video!
the 925, assuming its true sterling (but coin silver can tarnish too) will tarnish when exposed to open air. You don’t even need to wear it to see tarnish on it, just leave it out in open air.
Well, i like what it has becomes
I’d really like to see what happens if you returned the watch to Tudor. My guess is that they coated these watches with some sort of clear protective layer to keep them from tarnishing, but perhaps the coating on many was not thick or consistent enough?
I wonder if they would simply swap the case out with another. I also wonder if later production models have the same characteristics as yours?
mine was black with tarnish in 3 months. The AD sent it back to Tudor, I am still waiting on their response after 2 months. not happy to say the least.
@CanadianWatchGuy yeah I definitely am very curious about sending it in to see what the process will be like and thinking about the original silver sheen coming back is pretty awesome. However, i dont think I'll be doing it for quite sometime just because I want to see how far this tarnish will go now that i'm already 6 months into the journey! Also now that we're going into winter I think that its going to get more wrist time as well which should help with the tarnish hopefully. I wish I had a second 925 to experience both sides lol!
Also you ask many legit questions and its unfortunate that we'll pretty much never get answers to them! I would love to know if the silver alloy has changed after the tarnished examples came up and I think it would help make prospective buyers more confident in buying a 925 knowing that Tudor has done something (if they already have)
Also hearing experiences like @Larry Marin 's is definitely making me not want to take a chance which is unfortunate considering that its just a tarnish removal not a full on repair that needs parts that may be back ordered or something
@@sifu61 It's called an "e-coat" which is a clear coating used on silver to help protect against tarnish, but that wears off in time. THat's what they do on silver jewelry, they either e-coat it (cheap) or rhodium plate it (makes it look bright white) ....but in time all will oxidize.
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That video is a revelation! Before the summer I had that watch on my wrist, with the taupe NATO strap, and it was hypnotically amazing. But as I can see now, the magic is gone. It must have been done in stainless steel.
To whom it may concern, I have a 6.69 inch wrist, but the face or length is larger than the width or profile of it. Thing is that the Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight MT5402 with a stainless steel bracelet looked small on my wrist. Instead the Black Bay Fifty-Eight 925 with a NATO band looked perfect. A curious fact.
On the video, the first view of the watch shows a gray vintage leather strap that looks much better than the original (and unpleasant) brown strap. Today I got a mysterious email from the Windup Watch Shop and now I can I'd bet double against single that it's the “Worn & Wound Model 2 Premium - Stone Gray”. A truly original and exclusive strap.
Thank you very much!
Not sure what Tudor mixes with the silver to make it hard enough for a watch case? Do note that human sweat has sodium chloride (salt) which is reactive with silver. If you want to constantly shine your watch, perhaps the Tudor is an excellent choice. If not, go steel.
I hate to say it but I feel I dodged two bullets with Tudor recently - I was seriously pondering one of these but took my name off the list when I saw your first video and I almost bought a ceramic but Upticks drama has me glad I passed on that one as well. At this juncture, I still like the ceramic but am dubious on the name given this and Uptick's experience.
Rely on 925 to tarnish like the 1st and the 15th.
I'm digging those quick release spring bars, what brand are they?
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Yes! Let’s speed up the tarnish journey by going to the pool etc. If you don’t like the result you can just have the tarnish removed, right?
Yeah thats the way it is! I am very tempted to get it in a pool to "naturally" speed up the tarnish and youre right, I can always send it back to Tudor to have it look brand new!
Toning is a natural affect of silver. It is a natural patina that develops on ALL silver items. It is a desirable affect and a natural one when silver is exposed to moisture or air. Look at coins for the beauty that can be achieved in toning. You could end up with a very colorful watch in the end. Expect toning to happen. Or don’t buy a silver watch.
They should offer a titanium and silver bracelet to compliment the watch.
I wonder if the stickers that can now be applied as an anti scratch protection would stop the tarnishing??? What do you think?
Great video bro! Just recently I got to handle the 925 and it's truly beautiful. But!!! I have to say is love my blue more lol personally. Do you regret selling your blue?
Why not remove the tarnish yourself just like you would with silverware, silver serving dishes, etc?
Reminds me of titanium. Warm grey. I like it
excuse me the press photos you say are not accurate regarding the leather strap being to brown are so accurate as the leather strap is certainly brown….to brown….could have been much better. After some intensive search I found some matching grey leather straps from Kaufmann, as the original leather strap is so terrible. I should have bought the NATO one and buy the leather straps seperate as the nylon one fits so nicely
hello, love the watch so i am planning to get myself one. just want to ask one thing before making the purchase, i saw the watch onsite and seems like the tip of the minute needle is a bit tilted downwards, is it because of the dome glass type or is it suppose to be tilted? Thanks! oh BTW i am talkin about the 43mm bronze model
It looks great, buy a jewellers cloth or some polish if you wanna bring it back. The oxidisation is different from most silver in that it's not black.
You may try yours on a curved end. These watches being top heavy, all tudors, look nicely in a curved end.
These RUclips videos where guys wear their watches pretty much on he back of their hand instead of the traditional wrist position always looks so painful. When they rotate their hand with full crown to back of hand contact, I always wince.
Tarnish aside Black Bays hit so many points correctly- size, styling, and quality of timekeeping.
Not just you, but I've noticed a lot of guys (young/old) wear their watches quite low on their wrist. Almost to the point where if you flexed the back of your hand upwards you'd jar the crown into your wrist. I guess it's preference or maybe just to take a glamour shot but even my fantastic watch man (JohnWalker) recommends wearing it higher up your wrist to stop crown issues over long term wear. (I wear a JLC Reverso no crown guard)..
Yeah for me its comfort bc i cannot stand the feeling of a watch that cannot move on my wrist! While i can understand why technically wearing a watch low could adversely affect the crown, I do think that its an issue that is pretty negligible bc I've never had any issues nor has my dad over his many years. (especially with screw down crowns)
That being said I will absolutely use it as excuse to get myself a Reverso! Its an awesome watch, its been on my list for years. The only reason why I dont already have one is because I know myself and I know that it wouldnt get the wrist time it would deserve against all my divers😟 One day tho!
Have you tried the Polident trick? The watch advisor did it with a Tudor black 58 bay bronze. The bronze goes back to almost new (it depends how long the watch is soaked). Rubber b has a blocked integrated strap that would hide the space between the lugs that is noticeably darker on your watch.
It looks great with and without the tarnish. Someday I hope to own one. Nice vid!
Thanks man I' glad you enjoyed the video! And yeah it looks great for sure I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the tarnish can come in quicker during the winter somehow!
Love the tarnishing on this.
None of the after market bracelets fit. Tried strapcode and uncle Seiko, but the lug holes don't align with the case (strapcode was way off, Uncle Seiko was closer) I'm surprised your OEM bracelet fit.
Yeah it technically fit but it definitely didnt feel secure enough for long term wear. Unfortunately it doesnt have the cutout at the base of the midcase where the bracelet sits in. I do wish there was a solid bracelet option for it! Even if there was one I dont think I'd be able to use it bc the case has tarnished so much loool!
How do you use your natos to not have the bulk on one side?
Beautiful watch, thanks for sharing
soak it in vinegar for a few minutes rub it out then rinse under water, start fresh anytime?
Liked the video just because you said you like brushed finish better 😄
lol thats as good a reason as there ever will be! Glad to see that there are others who appreciate the brushed finish as much as I do! Definitely was a game changer for this particular watch😁
Cool & Fashionable🤩🤩
A great 6 months review of the 925 TWI. It's interesting that like you I was looking forward to the tarnish but I would also have missed the bright silver colour out of the box. As we can see it's sort of between two stools at the moment, neither bright nor dark and I agree it doesn't quite match the bezel, dial or white hands and markers. A tough call, get Tudor to clean it up (maybe they will replace the case?) or see what happens over the Winter but for that you would have to wear it of course or leave it soaking in something that might attack the aluminium anodised bezel in some way. Wearing it would not put me off but I guess I would not enjoy it 'quite' as much as I did. A great video and a great shout out for the G-Shock as well in there. I'm still resisting the Casioak metal.
Thanks Anthony!! And you're absolutely right I'm just caught in the awkward teen phase of it's life 😂 I think that I'll hold off on sending it to Tudor just because the winter is going to be the main source of consistent wrist time which will make for interesting updates but sending it in to Tudor and updating everyone in the process would be interesting too!! The 925 is stuck in the middle of so many things at the moment!!
Lol yes Gshocks ftw they completely dominated my wrist for 2 months pushing out the 925 and so many other contenders but yeah the metal casioaks really do look great especially the grey version for me (of course lol) a friend of mine has one and I think I'll be doing a video on it soon but there's just such a giant backlog of videos I want to do! I think it'll jump the line tho 👍
@@thewatchidiot One thing for sure is that your experience of the 925 has not 'tarnished' my want for one, there have just been a few other pieces that jumped the queue as the 925 is still in short supply in the UK. I even picked up a PRX last weekend when visiting my sister in the midlands. I compared the automatic black and blue dial versions, such a well finished piece and very slim for the PM80 (reworked 2824) movement. I got the blue waffle dial. I must remember to bring it home next time I visit her. I'm an idiot!
That's great to hear that the 925 is still in the running! But yeah I can totally see how it keeps getting pushed back bc it's very much a "nice to have" watch even within the realm of all watches being "nice to have" to start with lol!
Congrats on the auto PRX! It's a seriously cool watch and it wears amazingly so I think youll really enjoy it once you start wearing it lol!
How is the reverse side tarnishing? You don't show any images of the reverse. I assume it's tarnishing more since it's in constant contact with your skin.
Surprisingly its just about the same as the rest of the case which is probably why I forgot to include it in the video this time around lol! I'd have expected to see more tarnish on the underside for sure tho
Should be called the Tudor Silver Surfer
Because the silver dies very quickly. I'll be honest though, that reddish brown sheen you have, I like it ALOT. More contrast and it catches the light. The silver is better but I like them both ways.
I don't mind the tarnished look, but I do find it very strange that Tudor specifically said it wouldn't tarnish and then stuck with that message even when it was clear it wasn't true!
I have the bronze, love it.
Nice videos, thanks. Does it get scratch easier than a steel watch?
try using a silver polishing cloth
Make it tarnish crazy. Turn that thing to bronze!!
Imagine buying silver or bronze watch then being disappointed about tarnishing🤔
Is the bezel in silver as well?
Hey there.
I did watch this vid some time ago, thanks for bringing us the update.
Now I’ve seen the watch in the metal I am a little keen on it I just say.
In your opinion would you be able to keep this looking new and lustrous…?
I have a little ocd…
Cheers,
Dave.
I can't believe Tudor said silver wouldn't tarnish. I've had QC issues with a BB58. Dodgy thread on the crown and tight spot on the bezel, both from new. Horrendous QC, warranty, lack of communication and after sales all terrible.
I do not mind if my 30yr old coin has tarnish. Not sure i want my new watch to tarnish inside 1yr. Fwiw , i have a Seiko 6309 from the mid 80s. Not a bit of tarnish.