I was determined not to send him to lothric castle when I learnt he doesn't make it out alive.... But I couldn't ignore this words. You tell me what was the right choice. I let him go do what he wanted regardless of what comes next because it was his choice.
Old comment however I believe he wanted to forget the undead settlement, he lost all important to him and devoted himself to you, now the only reason he doesn’t go hollow. Greirat the great dies a thief however he never goes hollow.
I skip most dialog in this game and don't really take in the story as much as others, but his voice always struck me as incredibly genuine and appropriate and well crafted.
You know, finding his corpse in Lothric Castle and seeing all the messages of respect and sadness from the people who had passed by was quite the emotional stab...
Reminds me of when I passed by his corpse that was littered with messages but didn't even notice him. Only after I completed the game then I realised it was Greirat, broke my heart
Artorias was sweet. He always only bro hugged one armed though so i could never check out his package by kinda twisting my body so my knee touched it so i never got real comfortable with him around.
Greirat never dies in all my playthroughs lol. Even until this day, everytime he complains that he's bored I say to myself "at least you're safe here and that's enough. Let me do the dying". He should be renamed Greirat the friend.
i accidentally gave the loretta bones to pickle pee crow and lost it . sadly I lost the greirat's quest line but at least he wont die of existential crysis now.
I was crushed when i found him murdered in the Irithyll sewers. He devoted himself to me and i was inadequate to protect him. His death was my failure.
He has a miserable life, yet he has a few specks of beauty that keep him going. He is really a servant at heart, living for the fortune of those he sees as worthy, unlike himself.
"even patches wouldnt risk lothric castle for a friend" he does tho if you tell him,he dissapears and comes back with new items, presumably plundered from the castle but is unable to save greirat
Loli Raviolli I think it’s very likely that patches did find greirat yet didn’t get there in time as patches doesn’t seem that capable of a thief so I think that he actually took those wares offa Greirats corpse and decided to bring back the wares he found and sold them to you to finish his mission as show of respect towards him
I love how each character sits in a way that reflects their personality. Greirat crouched humbly like a slave. Patches smugly squats in satisfaction. Orbeck lounges in arrogance. Cornxy sits contently wait for his student. Yuria stands, waiting for you to fulfill your duty. Irina lays in fear wishing for comfort. Karla lays Comfortable as if she were still imprisoned. Lastly, Yoel is hunched holding his staff, barley standing and clinging on to life.
i accidentally gave the loretta's bones to pickle pee crow and lost it . sadly I lost the greirat's quest line but at least he wont die of existential crysis now.
Greirat: "Do stay safe, you hear? Or my efforts will have been for naught" *doesn't even try to mention himself once* Me: *feeling manly tears* "okay" ;~; We don't deserve someone as selfless like Greirat.
Ian Davis How could you say something so cold??? You're willing to let a true bro die for some stuff? I went through most of the game with meh gear and you can too damn it! >:'(
The Souls universe is one in which the most highborn and honorable of nobility can be reduced to snarling, sub human beasts consumed by their own fear and obsessions. Yet, its also a world where a lowly deserter, an undead notorious for thievery and subterfuge, can be given a greater purpose and even mourned after his passing. Its not exactly a "rags to riches" story, but Greirat did teach us that in a world of criminals and monsters, sometimes a petty thief is the most valorous one in the room.
There is a song my mother would sing to me when I was child which I love and pretty much shaped my childhood. I'll translate it here: "There was once a nice wolf who all the lambs bullied. There was also an evil prince, a beautiful witch and an honourable pirate. All this things there were, when I played the world in reverse." As I've grown, in a way, that world in reverse rings truer than what a fairy tale tells.
Greirat was my favorite npc in ds3, I was so sad when I sent him to die. He was the only one that wished you safe travel and it really hit home to me in such a dark hostile world that I could've only wished him the same in the end.
One of my favorite things about ds3 npc's is that they grow nicer and nicer over time, for example: Orbeck goes from ''Do come again'' to ''promise to stay safe''
@@hoptropikcz4973 Bruh I gave him 3 scrolls immediately when I got him and he still sends me off with “You haven’t forgotten our deal now have we?” Like come on man I gave you so much knowledge already. I’ve rested at the bonfire and he still thinks I haven’t given him any scrolls
@@hoptropikcz4973 I’ve traveled to like 15 places and he’s still saying things to me as if I never gave him 3 scrolls one of which he was really fascinated about. I’ve also quit and came back into the game countless times and he still says the same thing. Do you think maybe there’s more scrolls I’m missing? I have him 3, I don’t know if I’m missing any tho and if I am let me know
I found him in the sewers where those skeleton spider creatures are at. Idk what i did to secure his death but he died in a sewer and his corpse is still there. I won't go there to farm souls anymore because i don't like seeing his corpse everytime i go soul farming
If you helped seigward get out of the well at the cathedral of the deep, he is the one to save greirat, not patches. I didnt talk to patches at all about greirat and the “onion knight” still saved him, so it’s either one of them.
Greirat is probably my favorite character in Ds3, he is honest about being a "petty thief" but it is kinda sad how he apparently wishes to get killed on purpose, all the time aching to go looting and putting himself in danger. He is a thief and a hero, all in one character. Oh and that accent he has is just the best. ;D
I knew he would die if I fucked up so I waited until Siegward was in place to save him but then I fucked up and went into the dungeons before killing Pontiff. My lack of map knowledge got him killed :[
Lore theory theory that someone might have already said: What if Greirat didn't just want to snoop around to get out of the Shrine? Look at it this way; Greairat, directly or indirectly, was caught and imprisoned by the Lothric nobles, rendering him unable to save Loretta's life. When you save Greairat, he recognizes you as an Unkindled, bound to eventually fight the lords of Cinder. What if Greirat went thieving in order to gather supplies for you, knowing full well that you would use them against the Twin Princes? Is his entire questline just a bizarre revenge quest based around avenging Loretta?
"A bored rat is better than a dead rat," I always mumble when he complains about my refusal to send him to raid Lothric Castle. I know these cycles well. I've been through them many times now Mr Rat.
What I really dig about the questline too is that the key to his cell in the High Wall already warns about Lothric Castle and how thieves who dare go there never return. The game already warns you about the outcome before you even first talk to Greirat. Also Patches does still leave for the Castle. After telling him about Greirat, he's gone from Firelink until one boss is slain, and returns with a Hidden Blessing. Which kinda makes me think that Patches did head to see if he can rescue Greirat, but failed to find him, yet he did return alive from the Castle, cementing Patches still as the #1 rogue in the series!
The only place to find hidden blessing in whole game is untended graves so I always thought patches made his way there somehow while looking for greirat.
@@Wuuff God... it fits Patches too much that he would manage to screw over Gundyr somehow while looking for Greyrat and that's why he couldn't go link the fire in time on his timeline...
Miyazaki really knew what a gut punch it would be to find this admirable man’s ashes in the filthy sewers of Irithyll. But those moments of tender friendship in firelink shrine with Greirat made it all worth it.
Greirat dies in the sewer, Anri loses their friend and goes hollow and Siegward... well, if it wasn't abundantly clear that Miyazaki absolutely detests hapiness you haven't bumped into an onion knight yet. Through the entire game this man is an absolute beacon of chivalry and friendship. After every great victory together he offers you a toast, his mugs of Siegbräu reminding you that all is not lost in this crumbling world. Finally Siegward fulfills his duty, kills his old friend and pleads you have a *final* toast with him. You toast, you down the Siegbräu and the brave onion tells you, like so many times before, that he's going to have himself a little nap. Well, of course, it's the only thing to do after a proper toast. "You are a true friend. Best of luck with your duty." and as soon as you leave the room he kills himself. Damn it Miyazaki, why!?
When i found his ashes in lothric i think its one of the only times i actually cried midgame as it hit me my actions of letting him go led to his death, this character is my favorite above all in DS3 and it hurts just as much everytime i playthrough the game and he asks to go on the third loot run
Yo lo mandé sin saber que iba a morir nisiquiera sé cómo no murió las otras 2 pero murió con honor el único sociable en un mundo tan oscuro que se joda la vieja del templo Que las llamas os guíe amigo
I always thought Greirat store Loretta's ring and later regretted it, knowing she would be killed without it. I don't think she was anything in particular to him, other than a mistake he made and wants to put right.
I think Loretta was still very close to her, but that he did make the mistake of stealing her ring, which is why he askes us to take it to her. He then regrets his mistake for doing so once he finds out she's dead. This is most likely why we find him curled up in a ball, mourning her death; not even able to recognize the champion who had set him free from his cell in Lothric because he's too caught up with griefing over Loretta's death and thinking it was all his fault.
If Greirat really was this robin hood character, then it seems to me that he stole the ring FOR her not from her. Knowing that she was old, the blue tearstone ring would strengthen her in her weakened state. When the Evangelicals came spreading the teachings of the Cathedral, those who were not converted to the light of the Profaned Flame were killed. I believe that's why Loretta died. I think Greirat was so sad because the ring was stuck in prison with him for so long when he knew someone needed it.
Back here binge watching while I play through the series again (Haven't actually gone through DS3 yet but 1&2 over a dozen times) but your comment struck me as particularly poignant...Courage from the powerful and steadfast is an easy feat, almost expected...courage from the meek and cowardly is a revelation...like the first spark of a great flame...
Greirat can be saved both by Seig or Patches, I've had playthroughs where I haven't told or even killed Patches, saving Seig from the well in the Cathedral, and he lived, as well as Seigward not being saved / alive and telling Patches, he still survived. I know the vid's quite old now, I'm binge-watching in the middle of the night, and that was just something that caught my attention, thought I'd share.
I somehow got lucky and didn't manage to fuck it up. I'm new to dark souls and with the little knowledge I have, I managed to accidentally get Sieg to save Greirat.
I never told Patches where Greirat went and instead let Seigward rescue him, since doing Seigward's story line removes the armor from Patches' possession entirely. Less lore in that path though, I suppose, since Siegward would just be doing what Onionbros do best.
I usually kick Patches off the bridge in the Cathedral of the Deep. Killing two birds (and a hyena) with one stone: I don't have to pay for Siegward's Armour and the shortcut to Rosaria is open.
Nah you get the horsehoof ring, patches ashes, and the onion armor when you kill him. Literally the only thing you miss out is 2 emotes and some dialog by letting him live
When it came to greirat the thief , I've always thought that the reason he makes runs like this. Is that he wants to die to be with his love. But he would like to die with purpose.
solaire is the best for me he's the only NPC I ever summon because the boss is annoyingly hard "O&S" and killing him is the hardest thing I've ever done in dark souls series
He did not die a petty rat ... He died a friend, beloved and mourned. He died as the most formidable little thief I have ever met. I shall never forget his tale.
If you send him to Lothric castle and get his ashes and give them to the maiden in Firelink then she will have everything he had and at his prices as well as a few things that he stole from Lothric Castle before dying. It's worth it to send him there if you have a STR or Faith build in particular so that you can get unlimited lightning urns.
I've completed Onion Bro's questline, but I think there's a timing issue. He never survives his trip to Irithyll & I always have to go back there to get his ashes. I wouldn't send him to Lothric Castle, 'cause I know he won't survive that trip.
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Last weekend I found out about Dark souls (I heared about it before , but just superficially). I wanted to know more about the lore , and I found your chanel. In 2 days I watched almost all your content . Next weekend I will start playing this awesome series , and is your merits. Thank you and keep up the good work!
People seem to get really caught up in spoilers, dark souls is good gameplay wise and story wise. There are spoilers for gameplay, and spoilers for story, but they are different categories entirely, besides, if the story is spoiled you can still go back and play it for the novelty.
Thank you Vaati from the bottom of my heart as well. It is because of your videos why I started playing the games. I loved the lore and how the story is told.
A few missed details: 1. Greirat uses a bandit's knife, not a thrall axe. 2. The "peculiar onion knight" saves Greirat even if you don't tell patches where he has gone. 3. If you kill Greirat in firelink shrine, then patches will attack you near the giant tree.
Greirat is always saved by an 'onion knight'. Who it is depends on who has the onion armour. Seigward saves him if you gave him his armour in the well by killing patches or buying the armour off him after returning to firelink. If you do neither of these things and leave seigward in the well, then it is indeed patches that uses the armour to save him.
2. not really. For that to happen you need to have bought the armor from Patches and given it back to Siegward. If you don't do that you need to tell Patches where Greirat is for him to be saved.
No no no. Obviously Gwynevere cheated on Seath, Flan, and Oceiros with a blackrat and had Greirat. However, once the settlement began to decline, she left for other lands.
Greirat is the best dark souls 3 character I’ve met... I have now found all the merchants... but the only one who comes even slightly close is that one sorcerer that I dumped some books on... I wanted to reset when he didn’t come back...
Greirat is one of my favorite souls characters, the way he greets me every time i visit, how he wishes me good luck. i believe it when he tells me these things, that hes truely concerned for my well being. It makes his death pretty hard to cope with and i always wish there was another way
Hey bro look at the bright side we gave Greirat what he truly wanted an honorable death and for that we can smile knowing he passed doing what he wanted
Favorite NPC in Dark Souls 3. I've not been more emotional about an NPC, his death moved me. For some reason he was hopeless and knew his destiny was death. The way he speaks is the best delivery in this game: awkward, hopeless, ironic, friendly and sincere all at the same time.
Greirat was probably the best story in DaS3. I think Miyazaki at some point forgot that the real meat in Souls games are the people in it and their relateable goals and failures, not the convoluted main stories about time travel, alien communions or reincarnating dragons.
PlagueOfGripes was that sly towards bloodborne? It better not be, that game is a goddamn masterpiece. Better not be Or I will, I will umm. Disagree some more in comment section until you bring up a good argument and just give up arguing.
This is one of the most cogent points, and one frequently absent from discussion, about the series as a whole. I mean it was the characters in Dark Souls 1 that drew us into the world and the story not the other way around. Vaati's prepare to cry series on the first game is so much more involved and in depth despite meager production quality. That game had the best and most sympathic characters in the series. These BB fanboys are just ignant! Notice how there are hardly any PtC from DkS2?
Here is something that may be interesting when it comes to Greirat. Most NPCs fight in a similar way but Greirat is a little different. Siegward, Hawkwood, Eygon and Yuria will all retreat and use an Estus when at low HP up to 4 times but on the fourth they will show that their estus flask is empty. Greirat on the other hand will not use an Estus no matter how low his HP gets. Whether this actually means anything or is just a quirk is just conjecture but could it be that Greirat is not undead?
Greirat, more a rogue than a thief. A thief knows his boundaries, but a rogue acts upon emotion. A damaged hero, be it by a fated brith in poverty, or a crippling incapacity to accept the sacrifices a hero must partake. Greirat and Lothric aren't quite so different from one another. Greirat, willing to sacrifice himself for a cause is given none, thus he must steal one from those who do. Lothric, born weak and sickly, was given a task he couldn't complete. Overwhelmed by the fate which had been forced upon him, he escapes. Waiting in the shadows for an answer to come. Hoping one would be foolish enough to steal his fate. Opposite sides of the same coin. One capable and willing of this sacrifice, born poor, thus eliminating any chance of him being given the task to make the ultimate sacrifice. The other, weak and unwilling, born to the bloodline of the gods and lords who have sacrificed themselves to keep the world alive.
Something I've noticed that's very different in Dark Souls 3 than in the previous ones, is the strong presence of the moon. In Dark Souls 1 the moon wasn't even present. The Figure of worship was the sun, and the Sun only. However in Dark Souls 3 the Moon is the noble's figure of worship. It's presence is very obvious in Dark Souls 3. All throughout Irithyl, the main source of light in the sky is the moon. The cool thing about the moon's strong presence in Dark Souls 3, is that the moon is incapable of shining by itself. Some poets call the moon a thief or a rogue. A vain miss, who could not shine shine by herself, and so stole the sun's own light to glow brighter than any star in the night's sky. This has some parallels in Dark Souls 3. For one, the knights of Irithyl, are all women, or womanly in aspect. Gwyndolin, despite knowing full well that he was a man by birth, was treated and trained like a daughter due to his affinity to the moon (which in the lore is womanly). I'm not sure what to do with these bits of trivia, or even if they are even related to anything. However I feel like someone more insightful than me, can make something out of this. Lastly one bit of odd unrelated trivia. In the Shinto religion, the sun deity is a woman (Amaterasu), and the moon deity is a man (Tsukiyomi). Its funny how certain things are very European (western in the context of Asia) about the Souls series, while others are very Japanese. *P.S. I'm aware I'm replying to myself
Besides the lore itself and the amazing video you ended up creating, I'm actually amazed by the voice acting on this character in particular... it sounds heart broken and you can see how his voice gets cut by the feelings when you told him about Loretta... Damn everything's extremely well done here.
This is one of my favorite characters in DS3. He seems interesting yet odd, I guess most of the characters are. But I like that he's a polite thief, lol. Cool you did this, thanks!
Probably one of the most tragic characters of Dark Souls 3. A thief, trying to find honorable death for a good cause. His final and lethal 3rd pillage is not in wain though since when you give his ashes to maiden they will open 2 new items: explosive and shrapnel bolts for crossbows, the rarest bolts there are.
Doing a full Greirat cosplay run and this just hit me right in the feels.. Also curious no one mentions that he may be based on the Fritz Lieber character The Gray Mouser...
Greirat is easily my favorite NPC in DS3... I almost lost it when I found his dead body at the Archives. I was genuely heartbroken in a way that no other sidequest had me, not even Sigward's
Dark Souls is a series that shows us the struggle of living, inevitability of death, and the choice of how one dies. You can be like Gwyn and try to preserve what you had and lose yourself to power forever, give up trying and be hollow inside and out forever, or try to do something of worth and die trying. There is no absolute victories, only small battles and smaller people winning them, but even so, the humans who win these small battles meet a nobler end than the kings and 'gods' who try to preserve their power, who often turn into monsters and suffer for all eternity. Something to consider.
Dear VaatiVidya, As with many of the videos I have watched from all the way to Demon Souls to Dark Souls 3, your videos have provided with excellent content and narration from your part. As a game and you already know this, Dark Souls in particular does not explain the story directly like most games. The player, who is willing enough, goes to explore this massive world: Fighting undead along with hideous yet amazing creatures, meeting NPCs, playing as to the player's wishes cooperatively or hopefully in friendly sport ( I say sport kind of loosely but hopefully all in good fun haha), and not just play but also experiences and immerses within this world. There are multiple RUclips channels that do play Dark Souls, however among them, I would say that you are one of the most detailed oriented. You not only immerse but rather you give your own interpretation of the world around and provide information researched around the world of Dark Souls. Not only do you do these videos such as your "Prepare to Cry" videos, but you also find the smallest details that people tend to overlook within the environment which gives even more lore to this story. This narration/story telling is enchanting, in fact, I go out of my way to find your Dark Souls/Bloodborne videos in particular because I learn something new, even small fun facts. Of course, your videos that involve Edward Emberpants are delightful and it reminds me of the times I co-op with my buddy. Overall, along with many RUclipsrs who do play this game franchise including yourself, have inspired me to go to this fantasy land to not only play, but be the character I created and explore and fight these undead and learn so much about Dark Souls/Bloodborne. I ask that you continue your journey: Play more, learn more, make more of these videos if and when you can, and continue being you. To quote Solaire of Astora- " Now that I am Undead, I have come to this great land, the birthplace of Lord Gwyn, to seek my very own sun". Seek your Sun VaatiVidya. Hopefully when the next Dark Souls III DLC comes out, there would be plenty of content that can fill even more gaps to this complex yet intriguing world. Sincerly, A Fellow Undead seeking his own Sun
I never know if it's better for Greyrat to die in Lothric Castle, or to deny his last pillaging trip and let him witness the Ashen One's decision regarding the First Flame (whether you link it, take it, or simply let it go out). Greyrat didn't want to die a rat, but would it have been wrong for him to witness the end (or continuation) of the world with his friend? I'm not sure what he would have preferred. (I was a softy; for my first playthough I left most of the NPCs alone (I was swimming in Gold Winged Knight souls and didn't want their clothes) and left each of them an Ember while I let the First Flame die and my Ashen One goes Hollow, their journey completed...)
It is similiar to the first game and Soliare. You can either kill the chaos bug, and keep solaire from going hollow. Or let him get the chaos bug and find the sun he searched so long for. A lot of NPCs are like that. Laurentius is the same too. Either let them go hollow and die, but complete their life goal. Or keep them safe and protected, but never to find what they are looking for.
Same with Siegmeyer. You either let him die in glorious battle on your behalf, or fight alongside him, saving his life but depriving him of his purpose, making him go hollow.
and lets not forget Alfred from Bloodborne, in wishing to follow in his master's ways, leading him to the immortal vileblood queen only to serves to undo Martyr Logarius' methods of keeping Annalise locked away from the world. But if we were to never help him, his mission is already fulfilled to its best possible outcome.
And then there's me who killed everyone left in Firelink at the end of my first playthrough because I wanted to have everything on that character. I mostly only felt bad for killing Orbeck.
It's fantastic to see such great shots and views using that free-flying camera. I have to assume you've been using cheat engine for it, which is a big risk given the recent bans and what not. I wonder if Vaati uses a 2nd account, with a 2nd copy of the game to not risk the ban, perhaps?
GenerationHollow There's no way to detect its use offline. Unless you do something ridiculous so when you go back online the game notices you have 10 of a particular bosses soul or something impossible in that vein, there's literally no way it could be detected.
Im here after playing around 40 hours of Elden ring and I must say that Dark Souls 3 is by far the best souls game so far. The deep stories behind the characters and all the details that every structure has a meaning for the lore and nothing is done randomly and everything is done on purpose and it’s your duty to search for their meaning. Everything just fits so perfectly there and after nearly 400+ hours in Dark Souls 3 in the last 2 years imma about to cry when I see this…
I'm sorry, my friend, but I don't want you to go into that castle. I know the weight of grief, I know it weighs on one's mind.... the constant pressure.. the need for escape. Nevertheless I beg you, don't go into that castle. I know I'm being selfish, but I've lost too much already and I feel that the weight of losing one more friend will crush me... ... Please... don't go... please.
I feel like people don't talk enough about how fantastic the voice acting is in these games. There's so much emotion and depth behind Greirat's rapsy voice.
The sound design, mixing, and video editing here is top notch. These videos are the best quality by far out of any content creator going into deep detail about lore.
Exactly, i have followed Siegward's questline but i skipped Patches in the cathedral by going on the roof early and accessing Rosaria. I had to go in the tower of firelink shrine to find Patches again to get the onion armor, though i didn't talk to him, just bought the armor, after returning it to Siegward he'll go to Irithyll, and then he'll save Greirat there. We'd need to try to not save Onion bro and follow Patches questline to see if he can save Greirat aswell.
@@elwen9477 What i know is that only Siegward can save Greirat, in one of my playthrough i didn't bough the Catarina set so i never saved Siegward and he never show on the kitchen on Irithryll. Greirat dies there. Patches was on firelink.
Greirat: *"Goodbye! A-and stay safe!"*
that line would never get old.
Oh, this place is a bore... what good is thieving when you've nothing to steal?
"Goodbye then, be safe friend. Don't you dare go hollow"
@DickEnchilada oof
“Do stay safe, you hear? Or my efforts will have been for nought.”
i like this one better
@@Krosth lorentius oh man
"I don't want to sit around and die a petty rat... And I consider myself your friend..."
;_________;
The 1k like was my....love that part too..
The Big Sad
I was determined not to send him to lothric castle when I learnt he doesn't make it out alive.... But I couldn't ignore this words. You tell me what was the right choice. I let him go do what he wanted regardless of what comes next because it was his choice.
Same ;-;
Big fan btw..
Notice how when Greirat suggests going on a pillage in Irythill, he no longer calls himself Greirat of the Undead Settlement, but Greirat the Thief.
oh! you are right my friend! :o
Old comment however I believe he wanted to forget the undead settlement, he lost all important to him and devoted himself to you, now the only reason he doesn’t go hollow. Greirat the great dies a thief however he never goes hollow.
Dedicated to the bitter end
@@ChrsCrr there’s a way to save him look through the comments they will tell you how
@@christopherallenjr7241 can’t you save him if you don’t send him to lothric castle?
Greirat's voice actor is pretty incredible.
Elena Lee TRUTH
I skip most dialog in this game and don't really take in the story as much as others, but his voice always struck me as incredibly genuine and appropriate and well crafted.
I agree. His voice has reality to it, I don’t know they did it, but it’s pretty amazing
I think it's sissy
Mahmoud1987Hamada Nobody cares about your opinion
This guy could talk about the most boring shit and I'd still listen.
He is.
Jonah Weaver he's got a really soothing and calming voice
Like ASMR.
Jonah Weaver true
Yeah, Vaati, please be my math teacher
You know, finding his corpse in Lothric Castle and seeing all the messages of respect and sadness from the people who had passed by was quite the emotional stab...
Yeah it hurt he was n is your only friend in ds3
@@josephraskal3013 What of Anri, Hawkwook, Sirris, or Siegward
@@lonqu6848 Oh yeah, Anri! *SHAMK*
@@rhuancandeia7468 NOOOO
Reminds me of when I passed by his corpse that was littered with messages but didn't even notice him. Only after I completed the game then I realised it was Greirat, broke my heart
So Greirat helped us not to stay alive. He helped us so he could die for someone else. Shit man. He has more honour than most knights.
My life for the Imperium
My turf is sinsemillia, come at me bro, you will feel the dankness 420 blaze it
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Yeah, like Artorias.
Artorias was sweet. He always only bro hugged one armed though so i could never check out his package by kinda twisting my body so my knee touched it so i never got real comfortable with him around.
Bandai Namco Entertainment Europe approves this video (and I have some repair powder in my eyes it would seem).
OHHHH MAI GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!
It seems I have some repair powder in my eyes too..
Terrible day for rain.
Too much JoJo mate... but i can't see the problem
SONO CHI NO SADAMEEEEE JOOOOOOOOOOOOJOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is this a Tekken video?
When is Tekken becoming Dark Souls?
Greirat never dies in all my playthroughs lol. Even until this day, everytime he complains that he's bored I say to myself "at least you're safe here and that's enough. Let me do the dying". He should be renamed Greirat the friend.
i accidentally gave the loretta bones to pickle pee crow and lost it . sadly I lost the greirat's quest line but at least he wont die of existential crysis now.
You, Sir, are truly a good person 🤝🏻
I feel like you should let him die tho, it seems like that’s what he wants
I usually leave him to rot in prison.
I got into the habit once of never sending him to Lothric because I didn’t wanna do the sad. He was bored for a long time.
I was crushed when i found him murdered in the Irithyll sewers. He devoted himself to me and i was inadequate to protect him.
His death was my failure.
His death was inevitable, stop being overly melodramatic.
Clap clap 2 years too late
@@a.syching678 this is dark souls homie if you don't got the feels for greirat then what are you watching this channel for??
Clap clap
Also it isn’t inevitable. U can use siegward or Patches to save him. So not only are you being rude and very late, you ARE ALSO WRONG.
Is that why Greirat never shows up in Firelink Shrine anymore...because I sent him to Irithyll before saving Siegward or forgiving Patches.... :(
"Heavens, she was already dead."
That line sends shivers down my spine.
It breaks my heart every time.
You can hear him holding back tears in that line
Sensitive little bastard, ain't he. A very humble character.
He has a miserable life, yet he has a few specks of beauty that keep him going. He is really a servant at heart, living for the fortune of those he sees as worthy, unlike himself.
"Actually, I feel relief" that hits me harder, you can even hear a choke
"even patches wouldnt risk lothric castle for a friend"
he does tho
if you tell him,he dissapears
and comes back with new items, presumably plundered from the castle
but is unable to save greirat
Loli Raviolli I think it’s very likely that patches did find greirat yet didn’t get there in time as patches doesn’t seem that capable of a thief so I think that he actually took those wares offa Greirats corpse and decided to bring back the wares he found and sold them to you to finish his mission as show of respect towards him
This made me tear up alot, thinking on it...
@Straight Busta "Became a spider" XD
Wait, I never noticed the new items, what does he bring?
@@martinmelanopaz6925 Only one hidden blessing
I love how each character sits in a way that reflects their personality. Greirat crouched humbly like a slave. Patches smugly squats in satisfaction. Orbeck lounges in arrogance. Cornxy sits contently wait for his student. Yuria stands, waiting for you to fulfill your duty. Irina lays in fear wishing for comfort. Karla lays Comfortable as if she were still imprisoned. Lastly, Yoel is hunched holding his staff, barley standing and clinging on to life.
The firekeeper sitting and standing in ways that make it unfortunately not possible to see her feet
Lmao
And siegward is just chilling out
The diminutive lord guy sitting tentatively on his throne, knowing if he tries to get down, the fall will kill him.
Or eygor, fire keeper ,Andre? The hand maiden is chained. Seigward, Emma? Horace and his freind Anri
Greirat's voice actor is absolutely amazing
All of the voice actors in the 3rd game are amazing.
Especially the horace one
@@owoistaken436 oh god talk about emotional impact
*Guurgh*
Never fails to deliver
Almost every voice actor in a soulsborne game is
@@owoistaken436peak voice acting fr
They always say “where is greirat” but never “how is greirat”
That shit hurt
My *sadness* is unbearable and my day is ruined
"Where is Greirat? Is he safe...? Is he... alright...?"
@@EarCat it appears, in your greed to get cool shit, you killed him
@@Cairo40000 ouch. I did my best to keep him alive bro 😭😭😭
"Greirat, the petty rat, looking for an honorable escape" Ohhhhh my heart.
You know you can end his misery anytime... in the game
Paulo Castro But in what way could he do it that would make him leave the world as someone noble? Dying for you is the most noble thing he could do.
The King he's doomed in that cell to begin with anyways, he literally owes you his life. The only noble way is to end. A duel to the death my friend
When I gave him Loretta's bone and he said: "Heavens... she was already dead..." I felt a serious pinch in my stomach. Poor guy
Me too bro
To be fair though, he knows death is the kindest end in the world of Dark Souls...
i accidentally gave the loretta's bones to pickle pee crow and lost it . sadly I lost the greirat's quest line but at least he wont die of existential crysis now.
what broke me was seeing him curled up in a ball
@@55212just redid that part last night. It almost made me tear up to see him so deep in grief he doesn't even notice us.
Greirat: "Do stay safe, you hear? Or my efforts will have been for naught" *doesn't even try to mention himself once*
Me: *feeling manly tears* "okay" ;~;
We don't deserve someone as selfless like Greirat.
He is actually very much like Laurentius of the great Swamp
weflllagn “do stay safe” mans predicted the coronavirus.
weflllagn nice pfp homie
He had no one to live for now you are "his" beacon
I told Greirat not to pillage Lothric Castle for the same reason I didn't tell Larurentius about the chaos pyromancies.
Greirat devoted himself to the player, just like the people. This guy truly is someone i'd call my Main Man
Also i think it'd be kinda cool if you could join Greirat for his third looting. Like kill everything and leave thing
Larry The Guy I just learned to never send him out a third time I don't like losing him
you can grab his ashes and give to the shop lady for a lot of good stuff
Ian Davis How could you say something so cold??? You're willing to let a true bro die for some stuff? I went through most of the game with meh gear and you can too damn it! >:'(
Greirat best waifu? Maybe? No? Ok
The Souls universe is one in which the most highborn and honorable of nobility can be reduced to snarling, sub human beasts consumed by their own fear and obsessions. Yet, its also a world where a lowly deserter, an undead notorious for thievery and subterfuge, can be given a greater purpose and even mourned after his passing. Its not exactly a "rags to riches" story, but Greirat did teach us that in a world of criminals and monsters, sometimes a petty thief is the most valorous one in the room.
hear, hear!
Sometimes that is true and its sad
"I've more wits than royalty"
Just like real life
There is a song my mother would sing to me when I was child which I love and pretty much shaped my childhood. I'll translate it here:
"There was once a nice wolf who all the lambs bullied. There was also an evil prince, a beautiful witch and an honourable pirate. All this things there were, when I played the world in reverse."
As I've grown, in a way, that world in reverse rings truer than what a fairy tale tells.
Greirat was my favorite npc in ds3, I was so sad when I sent him to die. He was the only one that wished you safe travel and it really hit home to me in such a dark hostile world that I could've only wished him the same in the end.
One of my favorite things about ds3 npc's is that they grow nicer and nicer over time, for example: Orbeck goes from ''Do come again'' to ''promise to stay safe''
@@hoptropikcz4973 Bruh I gave him 3 scrolls immediately when I got him and he still sends me off with “You haven’t forgotten our deal now have we?” Like come on man I gave you so much knowledge already. I’ve rested at the bonfire and he still thinks I haven’t given him any scrolls
@@ThatsOk83 resting doesn't reset lines. You need to travel or quit out
@@hoptropikcz4973 I’ve traveled to like 15 places and he’s still saying things to me as if I never gave him 3 scrolls one of which he was really fascinated about. I’ve also quit and came back into the game countless times and he still says the same thing. Do you think maybe there’s more scrolls I’m missing? I have him 3, I don’t know if I’m missing any tho and if I am let me know
@@ThatsOk83 well, did you give him the one in the swamp?
"Between them, is a wall." A great wall. A tremendous wall. A wall so good that it'll make ya head spin. It will be the best wall. Believe me.
Let me guess.
UNDEAD SETTLEMENT PAID FOR IT!
this is the real comment that needs to be pinned
Velka Goddess of Sin uh no, mexico did
Trump for the King of Lothric
BleedRainbows it'll be yuge
I was personally devastated when I found him in Lothric. RIP Greirat, you magnificent little man.
I found him in the sewers where those skeleton spider creatures are at. Idk what i did to secure his death but he died in a sewer and his corpse is still there. I won't go there to farm souls anymore because i don't like seeing his corpse everytime i go soul farming
@@iraqifoodcart8447 you didn't tell Patches where he went. Patches was the onion knight who saved Greirat!
Myself as well. From then on, all sewer centipedes die on principle.
If you helped seigward get out of the well at the cathedral of the deep, he is the one to save greirat, not patches. I didnt talk to patches at all about greirat and the “onion knight” still saved him, so it’s either one of them.
*refuse*
the greatest flaw of the souls games is the lack of a "hug" emote. There are too damn many characters in need of one, and Greirat is top of the list
Somehow, doesn't having a emote for a hug seems like it's on purpose
Those clips of Greirat running from danger...my heart sank.
I feel u, homie.. I feel u.
Greirat is probably my favorite character in Ds3, he is honest about being a "petty thief" but it is kinda sad how he apparently wishes to get killed on purpose, all the time aching to go looting and putting himself in danger. He is a thief and a hero, all in one character. Oh and that accent he has is just the best. ;D
mustekkala he is fucking awesome lol, dark souls 3 didn't always hit the mark with the npcs but when it did it fucking did.
I know, I haven't loved a souls character this much since Solaire, even patches wants to help him!
No Onion Knight saved him at Irithyl. That day, I lost a friend...and I made everyone pay for it.
Actually onion bro is alive he is just in a jail cell and you have to break him out
@@GigaDank ... Read the text again.
@@TheTanglerrr ?
Onion bro did for me, i murdered the shit outta patches when he took my boy seigwards armour, but greirat still made it back safe.
I knew he would die if I fucked up so I waited until Siegward was in place to save him but then I fucked up and went into the dungeons before killing Pontiff. My lack of map knowledge got him killed :[
*The death of Greirat fucked me up more than Game of Thrones...*
Lore theory theory that someone might have already said:
What if Greirat didn't just want to snoop around to get out of the Shrine? Look at it this way; Greairat, directly or indirectly, was caught and imprisoned by the Lothric nobles, rendering him unable to save Loretta's life. When you save Greairat, he recognizes you as an Unkindled, bound to eventually fight the lords of Cinder. What if Greirat went thieving in order to gather supplies for you, knowing full well that you would use them against the Twin Princes? Is his entire questline just a bizarre revenge quest based around avenging Loretta?
Why does everything in this game make me want to murder those two even more?
@@masonjones7777 "Fuck this Boss fight"
DeMoCracy
@@user-gd1no3gf6d And they can't be parried effectively too, so there we have another reason to hate those two selfish bastards
One teleports while the other is a healer, what isn't to hate?
@@Argonak1 As if the dogs weren't bad enough, now we have teleporting BOSSES
"A bored rat is better than a dead rat," I always mumble when he complains about my refusal to send him to raid Lothric Castle.
I know these cycles well. I've been through them many times now Mr Rat.
Nice people
I always just leave him in the cell, to be extra, extra sure.
@@Phibbus at this point he is not a rat anymore, more like a hamster lol
if only we could put some pinwheel so he wont get bored
@@Phibbus wouldn’t he go hollow in there? He’d get depressed and give up on getting out. :/
I'm just playing DS3 for the first time and sent him there... I didn't know he'd die there bruh 😭
What I really dig about the questline too is that the key to his cell in the High Wall already warns about Lothric Castle and how thieves who dare go there never return. The game already warns you about the outcome before you even first talk to Greirat.
Also Patches does still leave for the Castle. After telling him about Greirat, he's gone from Firelink until one boss is slain, and returns with a Hidden Blessing. Which kinda makes me think that Patches did head to see if he can rescue Greirat, but failed to find him, yet he did return alive from the Castle, cementing Patches still as the #1 rogue in the series!
He is unbreakable afterall
The only place to find hidden blessing in whole game is untended graves so I always thought patches made his way there somehow while looking for greirat.
@@WildSkyMtn the reason Champion Gundyr is there is because Patches told him there was treasure and kicked him down confirmed
@@Wuuff God... it fits Patches too much that he would manage to screw over Gundyr somehow while looking for Greyrat and that's why he couldn't go link the fire in time on his timeline...
"I've lived as a petty rat.........but i would rather not die as one"
This broke me....:(
this is why I let him go even knowing he would probably die... sometimes living might be a fate worse than death
Miyazaki really knew what a gut punch it would be to find this admirable man’s ashes in the filthy sewers of Irithyll. But those moments of tender friendship in firelink shrine with Greirat made it all worth it.
Greirat dies in the sewer, Anri loses their friend and goes hollow and Siegward... well, if it wasn't abundantly clear that Miyazaki absolutely detests hapiness you haven't bumped into an onion knight yet. Through the entire game this man is an absolute beacon of chivalry and friendship. After every great victory together he offers you a toast, his mugs of Siegbräu reminding you that all is not lost in this crumbling world. Finally Siegward fulfills his duty, kills his old friend and pleads you have a *final* toast with him. You toast, you down the Siegbräu and the brave onion tells you, like so many times before, that he's going to have himself a little nap. Well, of course, it's the only thing to do after a proper toast. "You are a true friend. Best of luck with your duty." and as soon as you leave the room he kills himself. Damn it Miyazaki, why!?
Grei-rat is Indei-maus
spread the lore vaati
Indeimaus first
Seriously Indeimaus? That is.... best theory ever
that's deep dude whoa
Indeimaus wheres the evidence
Who is Indeimaus?
So..uploaders can now pin a selected comment to the top of the comment section!
..someone say something witty.
or compliment me
I like your eyes
Something witty.
Tell us the lore of the land
compliment me
these are all great (especially the eyes compliment) but i can't pin it if it's a response to this thread
The lore behind fighter PL
The first comment ive seen related to fighter in thus vid
Lol
@@chaosinjune
Lore of Fighter PL, The Troll
The Cunning and Tricky Unkindled, unfit even to be a Knight.
And so it is, that Trolls seeketh Chaos.
"And thus, he pursued his final wish as Casul Slayer"
@@javimarrero94
Tell me more...
When i found his ashes in lothric i think its one of the only times i actually cried midgame as it hit me my actions of letting him go led to his death, this character is my favorite above all in DS3 and it hurts just as much everytime i playthrough the game and he asks to go on the third loot run
How close were you to hollowing 😞?
Yo lo mandé sin saber que iba a morir nisiquiera sé cómo no murió las otras 2 pero murió con honor el único sociable en un mundo tan oscuro que se joda la vieja del templo
Que las llamas os guíe amigo
I always thought Greirat store Loretta's ring and later regretted it, knowing she would be killed without it. I don't think she was anything in particular to him, other than a mistake he made and wants to put right.
*stole
oh no that just fucked me up
"heavens, she was already dead. almost a relief, really" gives totally different meaning to these words
I think Loretta was still very close to her, but that he did make the mistake of stealing her ring, which is why he askes us to take it to her. He then regrets his mistake for doing so once he finds out she's dead. This is most likely why we find him curled up in a ball, mourning her death; not even able to recognize the champion who had set him free from his cell in Lothric because he's too caught up with griefing over Loretta's death and thinking it was all his fault.
If Greirat really was this robin hood character, then it seems to me that he stole the ring FOR her not from her. Knowing that she was old, the blue tearstone ring would strengthen her in her weakened state. When the Evangelicals came spreading the teachings of the Cathedral, those who were not converted to the light of the Profaned Flame were killed. I believe that's why Loretta died.
I think Greirat was so sad because the ring was stuck in prison with him for so long when he knew someone needed it.
"By right of definition, the coward is capable of being the most courageous one in the room."
Back here binge watching while I play through the series again (Haven't actually gone through DS3 yet but 1&2 over a dozen times) but your comment struck me as particularly poignant...Courage from the powerful and steadfast is an easy feat, almost expected...courage from the meek and cowardly is a revelation...like the first spark of a great flame...
Greirat can be saved both by Seig or Patches, I've had playthroughs where I haven't told or even killed Patches, saving Seig from the well in the Cathedral, and he lived, as well as Seigward not being saved / alive and telling Patches, he still survived.
I know the vid's quite old now, I'm binge-watching in the middle of the night, and that was just something that caught my attention, thought I'd share.
It's so nice to know that both can save him. What a well crafted side story
I somehow got lucky and didn't manage to fuck it up. I'm new to dark souls and with the little knowledge I have, I managed to accidentally get Sieg to save Greirat.
@@ElWeebDelBarri FROM not being too dickish about messing up questlines is wonderful.
I never told Patches where Greirat went and instead let Seigward rescue him, since doing Seigward's story line removes the armor from Patches' possession entirely. Less lore in that path though, I suppose, since Siegward would just be doing what Onionbros do best.
This happened to me as well.
I usually kick Patches off the bridge in the Cathedral of the Deep. Killing two birds (and a hyena) with one stone: I don't have to pay for Siegward's Armour and the shortcut to Rosaria is open.
Nine Flames missing out on the horsehoof ring eh?
Nah you get the horsehoof ring, patches ashes, and the onion armor when you kill him. Literally the only thing you miss out is 2 emotes and some dialog by letting him live
Kryle 2 emotes? i thought you only got patches squat
When it came to greirat the thief , I've always thought that the reason he makes runs like this. Is that he wants to die to be with his love. But he would like to die with purpose.
Awwww dude I'm crying
Edit: still crying give me tissues
2nd edit: what greatsword are you using
I'm also eating doritos they're stale :(
lothric knight greatsword
Joshua Schleifer thanks
Same bro im crying too he was may favorite character in this game
Evan Scianno He is the most human in this game. And I cryed bcs he didnt deserve to die!
greirat is my favorite souls character.
Mine is Pinwheel because i can kind of relate to his grief.
Mine will always be Sif no matter how many souls games they make
Solid Snake Gwyndolin is mine
solaire is the best for me he's the only NPC I ever summon because the boss is annoyingly hard "O&S" and killing him is the hardest thing I've ever done in dark souls series
He did not die a petty rat ... He died a friend, beloved and mourned. He died as the most formidable little thief I have ever met. I shall never forget his tale.
3 runs in & I've failed to keep that poor guy alive, every time...
All you really have to do is follow OnionBros quest line down to a T and not send Greirat out to pillage Lothric Castle. That's how I do it anyway
If you send him to Lothric castle and get his ashes and give them to the maiden in Firelink then she will have everything he had and at his prices as well as a few things that he stole from Lothric Castle before dying. It's worth it to send him there if you have a STR or Faith build in particular so that you can get unlimited lightning urns.
I've completed Onion Bro's questline, but I think there's a timing issue. He never survives his trip to Irithyll & I always have to go back there to get his ashes. I wouldn't send him to Lothric Castle, 'cause I know he won't survive that trip.
Apparently the mistake I keep making without realizing is going to Irithyll Dungeon before killing Pontiff.
I think I may have done that on each run too.
I was wondering... who explains the lore of Dark Souls to the Japanese audience, they must have their own Japanese Vaati right?
Jappi jetyia
Toya they don’t. There’s only one vaati
You sentence doesn’t make any sense
Yeee your grammar doesn't make any sense
Toya The Japanese learn English. If you have ever been to a foreign country, everybody there can speak English. Most anyway.
Edit: Nowadays it is part of the curriculum.
Gotta love his prices compared to that of the handmaiden or... Patches... ugh.
you hate him because you aint him
"and I consider myself your friend..." :'(
Last weekend I found out about Dark souls (I heared about it before , but just superficially). I wanted to know more about the lore , and I found your chanel. In 2 days I watched almost all your content . Next weekend I will start playing this awesome series , and is your merits. Thank you and keep up the good work!
:D Hope I can improve your enjoyment of these great games!
Ioan Both The videos are awesome but honestly you kind of ruined the whole darks souls experience for yourself.
Good job spoiling the game for yourself xd
People seem to get really caught up in spoilers, dark souls is good gameplay wise and story wise. There are spoilers for gameplay, and spoilers for story, but they are different categories entirely, besides, if the story is spoiled you can still go back and play it for the novelty.
Thank you Vaati from the bottom of my heart as well. It is because of your videos why I started playing the games. I loved the lore and how the story is told.
Greirat, firekeeper and siegmeir are the only npcs i care about and 2 of them die
:(
I cared about Hawkweed the most!
@@blair5475 I killed hawkwood the first few minutes I saw him...
why
Blair hawkwood the deserter. Hes a coward who fled and abandoned his brothers
@@antonh1159 that's not why I killed him, I killed him because I thought he was annoying
That smile that hits your face,
when just as you sit down for breakfast you see a VaatiVidya vidya.
:D
+VaatiVidya I almost cried you make vids very nicely my friend :)
Salted literally eatig susage and eggs while watching this on my phone
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
just smoking a joint and having a fruit shake for breakfast, plus some Vaati
A few missed details:
1. Greirat uses a bandit's knife, not a thrall axe.
2. The "peculiar onion knight" saves Greirat even if you don't tell patches where he has gone.
3. If you kill Greirat in firelink shrine, then patches will attack you near the giant tree.
Dragonbasty He didnt mis it but simply chose this story line.
He might inglude the other one in the onion knight lore video.
Greirat is always saved by an 'onion knight'. Who it is depends on who has the onion armour. Seigward saves him if you gave him his armour in the well by killing patches or buying the armour off him after returning to firelink. If you do neither of these things and leave seigward in the well, then it is indeed patches that uses the armour to save him.
Dragonbasty Siegward only saves Greirat If u already give him back his Armour saving him from the well. If u don't and let Greirat goes, Greirat dies.
2. not really. For that to happen you need to have bought the armor from Patches and given it back to Siegward. If you don't do that you need to tell Patches where Greirat is for him to be saved.
Android 19
I was just trying to say that it's definitely not always patches who saves greirat.
8:33
The feels kick in with the music right about here. Well done, Vaati.
Whats the title of the music ?. Edit: found it ..THERE MUST BE A WAY OUT OF HERE BY JOHANNES BORNLF
Thank u bro
@@willzjohns556 thank you man i had like 10 tabs open and johannes bornlof's music was actually one of them!
So in summary...
Greirat is the Scholar of the first sin and Princess Dusk's and Smough's lovechild.
Fritz Jahn indeed
Greirat is clearly Velka. Just like Velka is the Witch of Izalith and the Furtive Pygmy.
coolguyman16
If by listening you mean mocking, then yes.
and also Lloyd! it must be him or else I'll downvote one of Vaaty's videos
No no no. Obviously Gwynevere cheated on Seath, Flan, and Oceiros with a blackrat and had Greirat. However, once the settlement began to decline, she left for other lands.
4 bosses later doesn't appear
me : This nigga's ded
Sherlock Holmes im laughing so hard my dick hurts
Same happened to me I didnt talk to onion bro or patches so I'm like I fucked up
I literally went through 4/5ths of the game as well as both dlcs wondering where Greirat was and a month later I looked it up and cried
Greirat is the best dark souls 3 character I’ve met... I have now found all the merchants... but the only one who comes even slightly close is that one sorcerer that I dumped some books on... I wanted to reset when he didn’t come back...
I have Never play a Souls Game in my Life but I really enjoy this guy story telling.
We have to build a lothric wall
Gotta keep them Undead from taking our jobs.
+HYP3nOT1K *undead pay for it
We'll make the undead build it too .
The GOD EMPEROR WILLS IT!
And Londor will pay for it!
I find it incredible how even in a game without cutscenes the voice acting can be so top-notch.
Greirat is one of my favorite souls characters, the way he greets me every time i visit, how he wishes me good luck. i believe it when he tells me these things, that hes truely concerned for my well being. It makes his death pretty hard to cope with and i always wish there was another way
Hey bro look at the bright side we gave Greirat what he truly wanted an honorable death and for that we can smile knowing he passed doing what he wanted
Favorite NPC in Dark Souls 3. I've not been more emotional about an NPC, his death moved me. For some reason he was hopeless and knew his destiny was death. The way he speaks is the best delivery in this game: awkward, hopeless, ironic, friendly and sincere all at the same time.
The way he delivers the "in fact" when trying to convince you to deliver the ring sounds so real. I love it. I tip my hat to his VA.
Greirat was probably the best story in DaS3. I think Miyazaki at some point forgot that the real meat in Souls games are the people in it and their relateable goals and failures, not the convoluted main stories about time travel, alien communions or reincarnating dragons.
greirat trifusion when i must hear your wonderful voice talk about sweet nothings
Hush Plague.
Let your hate of history drown your sleep.
PlagueOfGripes was that sly towards bloodborne? It better not be, that game is a goddamn masterpiece.
Better not be Or I will, I will umm.
Disagree some more in comment section until you bring up a good argument and just give up arguing.
grimwatcher Plague hates Bloodborne because of reasons that shan't ever be understood.
I think he hates history or something.
This is one of the most cogent points, and one frequently absent from discussion, about the series as a whole.
I mean it was the characters in Dark Souls 1 that drew us into the world and the story not the other way around. Vaati's prepare to cry series on the first game is so much more involved and in depth despite meager production quality. That game had the best and most sympathic characters in the series. These BB fanboys are just ignant!
Notice how there are hardly any PtC from DkS2?
Here is something that may be interesting when it comes to Greirat. Most NPCs fight in a similar way but Greirat is a little different. Siegward, Hawkwood, Eygon and Yuria will all retreat and use an Estus when at low HP up to 4 times but on the fourth they will show that their estus flask is empty. Greirat on the other hand will not use an Estus no matter how low his HP gets.
Whether this actually means anything or is just a quirk is just conjecture but could it be that Greirat is not undead?
you deserve more views
Or that he just has a death wish.
So he is a selfless person and an honorful pvper... Wow, Greirat is quite your perfect souls mate, isn't it?
he isn't a chugger
He's not a drinker maybe?
This is one of the best dark souls videos I have seen. I love how you actually showed him looking around.
He didn't want to die a thief. He wanted to die trying to help a friend in need.
Fuck, why is this making me cry :'(
Zenith Tempest
More like help a friend in greed, Most of the time we don't need what he's risking his life for! It TRULY SAD 😢
He gets bored in Firelink so I send him out.
Greirat, more a rogue than a thief.
A thief knows his boundaries, but a rogue acts upon emotion. A damaged hero, be it by a fated brith in poverty, or a crippling incapacity to accept the sacrifices a hero must partake.
Greirat and Lothric aren't quite so different from one another. Greirat, willing to sacrifice himself for a cause is given none, thus he must steal one from those who do.
Lothric, born weak and sickly, was given a task he couldn't complete. Overwhelmed by the fate which had been forced upon him, he escapes. Waiting in the shadows for an answer to come. Hoping one would be foolish enough to steal his fate.
Opposite sides of the same coin. One capable and willing of this sacrifice, born poor, thus eliminating any chance of him being given the task to make the ultimate sacrifice. The other, weak and unwilling, born to the bloodline of the gods and lords who have sacrificed themselves to keep the world alive.
Something I've noticed that's very different in Dark Souls 3 than in the previous ones, is the strong presence of the moon. In Dark Souls 1 the moon wasn't even present. The Figure of worship was the sun, and the Sun only. However in Dark Souls 3 the Moon is the noble's figure of worship. It's presence is very obvious in Dark Souls 3. All throughout Irithyl, the main source of light in the sky is the moon.
The cool thing about the moon's strong presence in Dark Souls 3, is that the moon is incapable of shining by itself. Some poets call the moon a thief or a rogue. A vain miss, who could not shine shine by herself, and so stole the sun's own light to glow brighter than any star in the night's sky. This has some parallels in Dark Souls 3. For one, the knights of Irithyl, are all women, or womanly in aspect. Gwyndolin, despite knowing full well that he was a man by birth, was treated and trained like a daughter due to his affinity to the moon (which in the lore is womanly).
I'm not sure what to do with these bits of trivia, or even if they are even related to anything. However I feel like someone more insightful than me, can make something out of this.
Lastly one bit of odd unrelated trivia.
In the Shinto religion, the sun deity is a woman (Amaterasu), and the moon deity is a man (Tsukiyomi). Its funny how certain things are very European (western in the context of Asia) about the Souls series, while others are very Japanese.
*P.S. I'm aware I'm replying to myself
SnowFireBlues that's a really amazing observation (:
Besides the lore itself and the amazing video you ended up creating, I'm actually amazed by the voice acting on this character in particular... it sounds heart broken and you can see how his voice gets cut by the feelings when you told him about Loretta...
Damn everything's extremely well done here.
I've always loved him as a character, and his story is just so upsetting, I'm glad you put this video up
i accidentally gave lorettas bone to the crow at the fire shrine....
Blade assassin049 what did you get in return
What'd you get?
@@Leotheleprachaun Ring of Sacrifice, which aligns with his theme. Pretty cool.
@@Kuoted It was a needless exchange though. You can get several Rings of Sacrifice in the game.
OOF
This is one of my favorite characters in DS3. He seems interesting yet odd, I guess most of the characters are. But I like that he's a polite thief, lol.
Cool you did this, thanks!
Probably one of the most tragic characters of Dark Souls 3.
A thief, trying to find honorable death for a good cause.
His final and lethal 3rd pillage is not in wain though since when you give his ashes to maiden they will open 2 new items: explosive and shrapnel bolts for crossbows, the rarest bolts there are.
This was beautifully done Vaati. You truly are an irreplaceable jewel in this mad community.
May the flames guide thee.
Doing a full Greirat cosplay run and this just hit me right in the feels.. Also curious no one mentions that he may be based on the Fritz Lieber character The Gray Mouser...
I'm just gonna say it....I want to see a prepare to cry or a lore video on Edward emberpants
the omega maverick It's EDWAD!
Ah sorry, but still id like to see him make it just as like a joke or somthing
Yeah but that's a comment not a video
what video is that comment on?
Probably in April
He might've stolen many treasures, but he always stole our heart.
Honestly, this video made me feel better about sending Greirat off to Lothric. May you rest in peace, legendary thief.
im on ng+2 now im never send him for the third pillage ...
he's my bestfriend the only one who i keep alive
what about onion bro huh?
Same
Beautifully written and narrated. Thanks for that, I really enjoy your work Vaati :)
Greirat is easily my favorite NPC in DS3... I almost lost it when I found his dead body at the Archives. I was genuely heartbroken in a way that no other sidequest had me, not even Sigward's
Poor Greirat. He died as so many Souls players have died.
Misjudging the height of that jump
Dark Souls is a series that shows us the struggle of living, inevitability of death, and the choice of how one dies. You can be like Gwyn and try to preserve what you had and lose yourself to power forever, give up trying and be hollow inside and out forever, or try to do something of worth and die trying. There is no absolute victories, only small battles and smaller people winning them, but even so, the humans who win these small battles meet a nobler end than the kings and 'gods' who try to preserve their power, who often turn into monsters and suffer for all eternity.
Something to consider.
aww whoever put the subtitles in left a nice message at the end
Dear VaatiVidya,
As with many of the videos I have watched from all the way to Demon Souls to Dark Souls 3, your videos have provided with excellent content and narration from your part. As a game and you already know this, Dark Souls in particular does not explain the story directly like most games. The player, who is willing enough, goes to explore this massive world: Fighting undead along with hideous yet amazing creatures, meeting NPCs, playing as to the player's wishes cooperatively or hopefully in friendly sport ( I say sport kind of loosely but hopefully all in good fun haha), and not just play but also experiences and immerses within this world. There are multiple RUclips channels that do play Dark Souls, however among them, I would say that you are one of the most detailed oriented. You not only immerse but rather you give your own interpretation of the world around and provide information researched around the world of Dark Souls. Not only do you do these videos such as your "Prepare to Cry" videos, but you also find the smallest details that people tend to overlook within the environment which gives even more lore to this story. This narration/story telling is enchanting, in fact, I go out of my way to find your Dark Souls/Bloodborne videos in particular because I learn something new, even small fun facts. Of course, your videos that involve Edward Emberpants are delightful and it reminds me of the times I co-op with my buddy. Overall, along with many RUclipsrs who do play this game franchise including yourself, have inspired me to go to this fantasy land to not only play, but be the character I created and explore and fight these undead and learn so much about Dark Souls/Bloodborne. I ask that you continue your journey: Play more, learn more, make more of these videos if and when you can, and continue being you. To quote Solaire of Astora- " Now that I am Undead, I have come to this great land, the birthplace of Lord Gwyn, to seek my very own sun". Seek your Sun VaatiVidya. Hopefully when the next Dark Souls III DLC comes out, there would be plenty of content that can fill even more gaps to this complex yet intriguing world.
Sincerly,
A Fellow Undead seeking his own Sun
Speedwagon 3636 Damn it, I'm shedding man tears.
I never know if it's better for Greyrat to die in Lothric Castle, or to deny his last pillaging trip and let him witness the Ashen One's decision regarding the First Flame (whether you link it, take it, or simply let it go out).
Greyrat didn't want to die a rat, but would it have been wrong for him to witness the end (or continuation) of the world with his friend? I'm not sure what he would have preferred.
(I was a softy; for my first playthough I left most of the NPCs alone (I was swimming in Gold Winged Knight souls and didn't want their clothes) and left each of them an Ember while I let the First Flame die and my Ashen One goes Hollow, their journey completed...)
It is similiar to the first game and Soliare. You can either kill the chaos bug, and keep solaire from going hollow. Or let him get the chaos bug and find the sun he searched so long for. A lot of NPCs are like that. Laurentius is the same too. Either let them go hollow and die, but complete their life goal. Or keep them safe and protected, but never to find what they are looking for.
Same with Siegmeyer. You either let him die in glorious battle on your behalf, or fight alongside him, saving his life but depriving him of his purpose, making him go hollow.
and lets not forget Alfred from Bloodborne, in wishing to follow in his master's ways, leading him to the immortal vileblood queen only to serves to undo Martyr Logarius' methods of keeping Annalise locked away from the world. But if we were to never help him, his mission is already fulfilled to its best possible outcome.
And then there's me who killed everyone left in Firelink at the end of my first playthrough because I wanted to have everything on that character. I mostly only felt bad for killing Orbeck.
Really? No pity for killing Irina, Greirat or Karla?
When I first gave him the bone and he said “heavens, she was already dead”
It's fantastic to see such great shots and views using that free-flying camera. I have to assume you've been using cheat engine for it, which is a big risk given the recent bans and what not. I wonder if Vaati uses a 2nd account, with a 2nd copy of the game to not risk the ban, perhaps?
I heard he uses a secret feature in the game for it called "offline mode". Spooky, I know
My point was that anyone who has had CE, online or offline, was getting banned recently.
GenerationHollow There's no way to detect its use offline. Unless you do something ridiculous so when you go back online the game notices you have 10 of a particular bosses soul or something impossible in that vein, there's literally no way it could be detected.
Well, I believe he just use a fly cheat and then used it offline.
I avoided the bans. I do a lot of stuff, but it's all offline.
Greirat is the best character in the series. I miss him so.
Im here after playing around 40 hours of Elden ring and I must say that Dark Souls 3 is by far the best souls game so far. The deep stories behind the characters and all the details that every structure has a meaning for the lore and nothing is done randomly and everything is done on purpose and it’s your duty to search for their meaning. Everything just fits so perfectly there and after nearly 400+ hours in Dark Souls 3 in the last 2 years imma about to cry when I see this…
I'm sorry, my friend, but I don't want you to go into that castle.
I know the weight of grief, I know it weighs on one's mind.... the constant pressure.. the need for escape.
Nevertheless I beg you, don't go into that castle. I know I'm being selfish, but I've lost too much already and I feel that the weight of losing one more friend will crush me...
...
Please... don't go... please.
wat
maymays
I didn't let him go to lothric castle.
greirat, the true bro of ds3
Ratbro.
Whoever voiced Greirat did a phenomenal job.
Prepare To Cry: Fatorias The Obesewalker
Prepare to "Fry" would have been better in my opinion
Greirat was always my favorite NPC and now I feel like I fully understand his story and character. This video killed me Vaati, thank you.
NOPE!!!
You're staying with me little buddy! We're going to Darkness and Back TOGETHER!!!
I feel like people don't talk enough about how fantastic the voice acting is in these games. There's so much emotion and depth behind Greirat's rapsy voice.
waking up to a vaati video is the best feeling in the world
The sound design, mixing, and video editing here is top notch. These videos are the best quality by far out of any content creator going into deep detail about lore.
if you kill patches and do the siegward quest line he will still survive the second one.
Because patches is undead
Exactly, i have followed Siegward's questline but i skipped Patches in the cathedral by going on the roof early and accessing Rosaria. I had to go in the tower of firelink shrine to find Patches again to get the onion armor, though i didn't talk to him, just bought the armor, after returning it to Siegward he'll go to Irithyll, and then he'll save Greirat there. We'd need to try to not save Onion bro and follow Patches questline to see if he can save Greirat aswell.
That is neat that it is Patches or actually Onion bro depending on how quests are going, two chances for him to make it
@@elwen9477 What i know is that only Siegward can save Greirat, in one of my playthrough i didn't bough the Catarina set so i never saved Siegward and he never show on the kitchen on Irithryll. Greirat dies there.
Patches was on firelink.
@@Daeronicus I see, though i've heard that it might be possible to save Greirat with Patches, idk.