Sauron was found by a secret band of his followers, as a pale shadow in a deep cave. With them, they had brought a magical container in which they put the spirit in and sustained it for a long journey. After a time, in the lands to the east, the followers came upon a dark castle built into the side of a dead volcano, where they made thier home. Inside one of the dimly lit rooms, laying on slabs of rock, were the still living forms of the blue wizards. The followers opened the container and poured the shadow into one of the wizards mouth, and once inside , it began to feed of the power that still flowed. After a time, a creature of blood and flesh tore open the body, and consumed it, then went to the other form and used it for substance. At this command, to followers looked up from thier prayers and beheld thoer Lord, once again whole and more powerful than ever. And so, the darkness will once again spread across the lands.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why destroying the ring didn't just release his power so that it returned to him. For an example of this see Neil Gaiman's Morpheus and the Dreamstone, when it was destroyed his power returned to him.
I often ponder on the same thing. Even if he infused most of his power and held it in the Ring, this sure couldn't have been engulfed wholly by the lava. I feel like what power of the Ring survived its destruction could have been so scattered, that Sauron now bodiless and nearly powerless could not recall it back.
Except morgoth is in prison and was sent back to rhe heavens i believe where eru illuvitar personally punished him / imprisoned him he can never get to middle earth again, sauron would wake up on valinor and the valar would imprison him immediately
I feel Tolkien wrote himself into a corner when he killed him off and the rest off the magical beings. I adduced it from Tolkien’s troubles in writing a sequel to LOTR. He described it as more of a thriller and not fantasy, and so he dropped it. But he created it, he could’ve resurrected it.
@@awallner1 it didn’t need to continue the story ended perfectly there, I’m glad they didn’t make a sequel connected to the story , but plenty of other stories could take place in middle-earth before or after the Lord of the rings. With Sauron gone and morgoth gone , there is no evil deity left so it could cause a new one to arise or become corrupted, there is no light without darkness and peace never lasts forever
@@awallner1 So true....but he had spent so many years creating the Masterpiece that he probably did need that rest. It's just brilliant....brilliant I tell ya.
I have a question for someone that knows more than i do. I hope i dont sound dumb when i ask this but, if sauron was alive before the ring and made the ring, why does destroying the ring also destroy him too? Its seperate from him.
I'm pretty sure it's because when he created the one ring, he infused his will, his essence, his being and soul into it, so without the ring, he does not exist. In the most basic form i can put it is, after Morgoth was defeated Sauron was weak, went into hiding, some thought he was dead, while the others that didn't, were hunting him. Lucky for him he could take the form of other people (a shape shifter) so he disguised himself as the Lord of Gifts then helped and influenced a certain elf with the methods/magic for crafting/creating rings of power, after gaining this knowledge and art, Celebrimbor crafted the 3 elven rings by himself. The methods and arts in creating/crafting the rings is very important here, because this is Sourons own method and magic and to top it off, its a really dark magic, one that gos back to the creation of time, woven by the songs of morgoth of what he found in the abys. So any object created and crafted in this method will be tied into Sourons very being, which is why he's able to see through the eyes of the ring bearers and can also influence and curupt them. I'm sure you know the rest, he then helped the Elves of Eregion craft the rest of the ring. Back to the one ring, after all of that, Souron gos to mount doom (mount doom is very important here too, it's a evil domain tied with very powerful dark arts and magic, also things that are created with the resources there, can only be destroyed there) to craft the one ring, while he is crafting it, not only all the evil power from mount dooms domain but also his own along with his will and essence etc. Is infused into the ring, he then speaks a dark toung, again very old dark, powerful magic while he's conjuring black magic he binds his actual soul to the one ring. (Super important) Main reason behind this (apart from full power and domain control over all the people of middle earth) he can never die, i mean he can't die anyway, not really, even when he died in lotr, he was never truly dead, it was only his form that died, he will forever be, like I a ghost I guess, doomed to roam middle earth, unable to be seen or heard, unable to speak or take any form, compleatly lifeless, only him and his thoughts and hatred living on forever in him, until the end of time itself, like limbo, imagin, thats torture within itself, reason I say this is because that's the most crucial bit, that was the whole point of the one ring, it was to stop that from happening if he was to ever "die". As he bound is soul into it ring, there was no killing him, as all he had to do was wait until he had enough power to take a form and then find the ring, when he wears the ring he also regain all his power and is basically back to his normal self. Also to confuse you even more, if he regains his full power and you somehow stole the ring off him, destroying it won't destroy him, you would have to kill him after too, buuuuut, at least he won't come back because you've already destroyed the ring. The reason they were able to kill him by destroying the ring in this case is because he couldn't regain his form and was really weak he was only like a shadow, like a floting soul, so basically the ring was holding his soul, binding it to middle earth. But because of the ring binding him, he was still able to have influence and talk, be seen and to an extent touch things with magic. I hope that made sense dude, but honestly, read the books man.
@@Readingmoth thank you for your feedback. My mom read the books to me when I was little, I missed alot of it obviously😊 I will definately read them as an adult. Thank you again for your time to explain this to me🤙
@@michaelfrieszell6745 you were a lucky kid man, to have such a cool mum. And any time bro, honestly man, you will fall in love, the world and lore Tolkin created is by far the most amazing and beautiful, no one can touch him, to this day no one has ever replicated this type of work. To creat a life time story, from beginning to end as a time line, all detailed, all characters and creatures have a past present and future, thousands and thousands of years worth of history. To this day his work blows my mind out of my pocket ahaha. Hope you become as obsessed as I am aha. Take care fellow brother!
He put too much of his own essence and soul into the ring. The short answer is he made a mistake. That's what the video is saying. He creates his own means of destruction. It was an emotional outburst of hatred and malice.
Omg could you repeat the same idea in slightly different ways any more? So he became a spirit. Doomed to wander. The end. "Created by Ee-aye-ee-aye-oh-ar-yu, Iluvatar." Old MacDonald Iluvatar had a farm and Arda was it's name-oh. (Btw wtf is up with this video, an ad every 5min? Lame.
Sauron is Lucifer the Highest of the Arch Angels. Tolkien was a student of Anthroposophy and used its principles to model his hierarchies good and bad. As a negative being they eternally function as one half of the two poles of Polarity.
Why didn’t Elrond try to stop Isildur from not destroying the ring? What would Sauron do if Melkor came back in the third age where he had the one ring? Do you all think it should be a continuation to the story after lord of the rings? Who would be the new dark lord? Would Aragon bring the Numenorians back from his bloodline with Arwen? And now that Sauron is gone, would the rings still work for the elves? Middle earth is my favorite lore of all time. It’s sad that they’re ruining it with rings of power.
In the books they didn’t know to destroy the ring, Isildur studied it for a year, but when he started to feel it’s power over him he began a journey to Rivendell to get Elrond’s advice. He was killed on the journey. The films made isildur look a lot weaker and less honourable than he was in the books unfortunately.
@@mickymickymike4105 Elrond like many others knew he couldn't bear the ring, not even for journey to Mt. Doom to cast it into the flames from which it was forged.
@@DrewPeabaws that makes sense. I see that is a flaw in the movie because there is no way Elrond didn’t put up a fight with Isildur if he knew that destroying the ring would bring peace to the world. That’ll be like me with a gun in my hand and someone in the government was going to press the red button to set off nuclear war. I’m not going to let them push that button if I could help it lol.
He went to Washington DC and became a politician
No one in Washington DC is smart enough to be Sauron 😂
@@MisterDougal lol
He resides in Kreml russia nowadays. But as we can see, can't definitely take a fair form anymore.
@@esjope You still haven't figured out the U.S. is the evil empire and not Russia, have you?
I heard he might reinvented himself as Kanye. But I don't peg Sauron as a gay fish.
Sauron cant die. His natural form in the unseen world will always escape in a freezing wind. A powerless spirit for ever.
He Went Down Into Hell & Became Satan!
Sauron was found by a secret band of his followers, as a pale shadow in a deep cave.
With them, they had brought a magical container in which they put the spirit in and sustained it for a long journey.
After a time, in the lands to the east, the followers came upon a dark castle built into the side of a dead volcano, where they made thier home.
Inside one of the dimly lit rooms, laying on slabs of rock, were the still living forms of the blue wizards.
The followers opened the container and poured the shadow into one of the wizards mouth, and once inside , it began to feed of the power that still flowed.
After a time, a creature of blood and flesh tore open the body, and consumed it, then went to the other form and used it for substance.
At this command, to followers looked up from thier prayers and beheld thoer Lord, once again whole and more powerful than ever.
And so, the darkness will once again spread across the lands.
Great theory. That would be befitting for the deceiver
🧐I like to think Sauron suffered the same fate as Voldemort did, and that his soul (If he had one) is stuck in Limbo, unable to move on.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why destroying the ring didn't just release his power so that it returned to him. For an example of this see Neil Gaiman's Morpheus and the Dreamstone, when it was destroyed his power returned to him.
I often ponder on the same thing. Even if he infused most of his power and held it in the Ring, this sure couldn't have been engulfed wholly by the lava. I feel like what power of the Ring survived its destruction could have been so scattered, that Sauron now bodiless and nearly powerless could not recall it back.
@@lucabestea6844 That makes sense.
Hey, half an hour to say where that mf go after the ring destroyed, someone can give a resume of all this enlarged BS?
Haha glad you noticed😂😂
As a Maya, Sauron's spirit is immortal and will come back again with Morgoth
The ALIEN is waiting for him to cast him in space never to return, frozen forever.
Except morgoth is in prison and was sent back to rhe heavens i believe where eru illuvitar personally punished him / imprisoned him he can never get to middle earth again, sauron would wake up on valinor and the valar would imprison him immediately
I feel sad and lost because of Sauron's exile to permanent impotence.
He is the one that instigated the journey.
There’s no hero’s without a villain, and he was one of the best
He will regain some potence when Morgoth returns in the Dagor Dagorath.
I feel Tolkien wrote himself into a corner when he killed him off and the rest off the magical beings. I adduced it from Tolkien’s troubles in writing a sequel to LOTR. He described it as more of a thriller and not fantasy, and so he dropped it. But he created it, he could’ve resurrected it.
@@awallner1 it didn’t need to continue the story ended perfectly there, I’m glad they didn’t make a sequel connected to the story , but plenty of other stories could take place in middle-earth before or after the Lord of the rings. With Sauron gone and morgoth gone , there is no evil deity left so it could cause a new one to arise or become corrupted, there is no light without darkness and peace never lasts forever
@@awallner1 So true....but he had spent so many years creating the Masterpiece that he probably did need that rest.
It's just brilliant....brilliant I tell ya.
I have a question for someone that knows more than i do. I hope i dont sound dumb when i ask this but, if sauron was alive before the ring and made the ring, why does destroying the ring also destroy him too? Its seperate from him.
I'm pretty sure it's because when he created the one ring, he infused his will, his essence, his being and soul into it, so without the ring, he does not exist.
In the most basic form i can put it is, after Morgoth was defeated Sauron was weak, went into hiding, some thought he was dead, while the others that didn't, were hunting him. Lucky for him he could take the form of other people (a shape shifter) so he disguised himself as the Lord of Gifts then helped and influenced a certain elf with the methods/magic for crafting/creating rings of power, after gaining this knowledge and art, Celebrimbor crafted the 3 elven rings by himself. The methods and arts in creating/crafting the rings is very important here, because this is Sourons own method and magic and to top it off, its a really dark magic, one that gos back to the creation of time, woven by the songs of morgoth of what he found in the abys. So any object created and crafted in this method will be tied into Sourons very being, which is why he's able to see through the eyes of the ring bearers and can also influence and curupt them. I'm sure you know the rest, he then helped the Elves of Eregion craft the rest of the ring.
Back to the one ring, after all of that, Souron gos to mount doom (mount doom is very important here too, it's a evil domain tied with very powerful dark arts and magic, also things that are created with the resources there, can only be destroyed there) to craft the one ring, while he is crafting it, not only all the evil power from mount dooms domain but also his own along with his will and essence etc. Is infused into the ring, he then speaks a dark toung, again very old dark, powerful magic while he's conjuring black magic he binds his actual soul to the one ring. (Super important)
Main reason behind this (apart from full power and domain control over all the people of middle earth) he can never die, i mean he can't die anyway, not really, even when he died in lotr, he was never truly dead, it was only his form that died, he will forever be, like I a ghost I guess, doomed to roam middle earth, unable to be seen or heard, unable to speak or take any form, compleatly lifeless, only him and his thoughts and hatred living on forever in him, until the end of time itself, like limbo, imagin, thats torture within itself, reason I say this is because that's the most crucial bit, that was the whole point of the one ring, it was to stop that from happening if he was to ever "die". As he bound is soul into it ring, there was no killing him, as all he had to do was wait until he had enough power to take a form and then find the ring, when he wears the ring he also regain all his power and is basically back to his normal self. Also to confuse you even more, if he regains his full power and you somehow stole the ring off him, destroying it won't destroy him, you would have to kill him after too, buuuuut, at least he won't come back because you've already destroyed the ring.
The reason they were able to kill him by destroying the ring in this case is because he couldn't regain his form and was really weak he was only like a shadow, like a floting soul, so basically the ring was holding his soul, binding it to middle earth.
But because of the ring binding him, he was still able to have influence and talk, be seen and to an extent touch things with magic.
I hope that made sense dude, but honestly, read the books man.
@@Readingmoth thank you for your feedback. My mom read the books to me when I was little, I missed alot of it obviously😊 I will definately read them as an adult. Thank you again for your time to explain this to me🤙
@@michaelfrieszell6745 you were a lucky kid man, to have such a cool mum.
And any time bro, honestly man, you will fall in love, the world and lore Tolkin created is by far the most amazing and beautiful, no one can touch him, to this day no one has ever replicated this type of work. To creat a life time story, from beginning to end as a time line, all detailed, all characters and creatures have a past present and future, thousands and thousands of years worth of history. To this day his work blows my mind out of my pocket ahaha.
Hope you become as obsessed as I am aha.
Take care fellow brother!
@@Readingmothyou are a gem my friend
He put too much of his own essence and soul into the ring. The short answer is he made a mistake. That's what the video is saying. He creates his own means of destruction. It was an emotional outburst of hatred and malice.
I feel like sauron, learned that from no one.
I feel like never vanquishing Sauron but letting Melkor be trapped in the void is faulty. Why cant he also be pushed there?
He moved to Hogwarts. Goes by the name Peeves now.
He went on a cruise of the Greek islands . He loves it .
Omg could you repeat the same idea in slightly different ways any more? So he became a spirit. Doomed to wander. The end.
"Created by Ee-aye-ee-aye-oh-ar-yu, Iluvatar." Old MacDonald Iluvatar had a farm and Arda was it's name-oh.
(Btw wtf is up with this video, an ad every 5min? Lame.
Nice AI
thanks
I wonder where did all the Balrogs go since maiar cant die
In Germany
@@nenitaschmidt7197 what they up to in germany lol?
They entered Street Fighter
Morgoth will collect saurans fragments and they will fuse together i guess
He may be unable to take new form, I wonder what would happen is Morgoth escaped, and gave Sauron a new form, how delicious...
Sauron is Lucifer the Highest of the Arch Angels. Tolkien was a student of Anthroposophy and used its principles to model his hierarchies good and bad.
As a negative being they eternally function as one half of the two poles of Polarity.
He was destroyed too that's where he went
Why didn’t Elrond try to stop Isildur from not destroying the ring?
What would Sauron do if Melkor came back in the third age where he had the one ring?
Do you all think it should be a continuation to the story after lord of the rings? Who would be the new dark lord? Would Aragon bring the Numenorians back from his bloodline with Arwen?
And now that Sauron is gone, would the rings still work for the elves?
Middle earth is my favorite lore of all time. It’s sad that they’re ruining it with rings of power.
Thanks for your input! We will use the above information for a new video
In the books they didn’t know to destroy the ring, Isildur studied it for a year, but when he started to feel it’s power over him he began a journey to Rivendell to get Elrond’s advice. He was killed on the journey. The films made isildur look a lot weaker and less honourable than he was in the books unfortunately.
@@mickymickymike4105 Elrond like many others knew he couldn't bear the ring, not even for journey to Mt. Doom to cast it into the flames from which it was forged.
@@NCfrost82 I meant like literally trying to stop Isildur like fight him.
@@DrewPeabaws that makes sense. I see that is a flaw in the movie because there is no way Elrond didn’t put up a fight with Isildur if he knew that destroying the ring would bring peace to the world. That’ll be like me with a gun in my hand and someone in the government was going to press the red button to set off nuclear war. I’m not going to let them push that button if I could help it lol.
I wonder if another being of power could restore him?
They are there waiting to cast him back in hollywood hahahahaha.
@nenitaschmidt7197 Good one, but wouldn't the lords of money want to bring back Morgoth next.
@@nenitaschmidt7197 he currently is in that form on rings of power..
The only being that can pull him from the void is Eru - and he won't be doing that lol.
@johnbunceiii2668 he's not in the void like mogoth. He is still on middle earth.
This is the dumbest thing I have heard souron died but his spirit is not like a elf or human he was like and angel fallin angel
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