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I own one of those and I am really impressed with the power cranking, the drag smoothness and the fish were brought in with ease. I fish both in fresh and saltwater for salmon from 10 to 65 lbs in Alaska. This is the poor man's Stella and will not break your bank account. Highly recommended.
For everyone who has hard time deciding between 5000 saragosa or stradic..... if you use very thin braid (pe #1.5-2) and cast far, go with stradic fk or new fl. Stradic has a worm gear and it wraps line much tighter (more wraps top to bottom). Stradics are amazing reels for their size, I have used stradic 3000fk for king salmon up to 25 pounds with no problems for few seasons (I did install carbontex drag from day 1). I also lifted few smaller bonito up the pier using stradic 5000 without having to pump the rod. Using heavier line on stradic may cause issues with long distance casts. And it will not fit as much line. So if you are using heavier braids then go with saragosa. For those that use mono, just go with spheros and save some money because there's no need for powerful drag. Also, both spheros and saragosa are better sealed than stradic and can take more abuse on the beach.
Awesome reel! Took my 10,000 out to Mexico water this past week and hooked up to two bluefin tunas. Pulled the hook on one and landed the other. Reel screamed like theirs no tomorrow but handled the fish just fine. Highly recommend!
My dad lost his first bluefin tuna ever today fishing a brand new Penn slammer 3 5500. The gears took a shit and was the most frustrating thing ever trying to get that tuna boat side. Thanks for the review. I'm gonna pick up one of these quality reels up for him tomorrow.
I love the Saragosa reels I have a 20000 and 10000 models and the new 2020 model 6000 , I also have a Stella but I don’t use it much because it cost too much and I don’t wanna damage it so I just use my Saragosa and if I damage that i won’t be too upset.
Love that reel! First time using it I caught a 33lb ling. Had I known the 8k and 10k uses same body I would've got the 10k. If you look at the price now the 10k is actually a little less. Great review Ish!
Good stuff!! The reel question now is.....when is the new gosa gonna hit...and how are they gonna screw it up...It used to be gosa and stella...with no worry of encroaching on sales since there wasn't a Twinpower to speak of in the US market......Now....With the TP SW a thing....Are they going to update the Gosa SW before the TP SW and try not to make it a more compelling buy. I hope they scrap that stupid parallel reel foot that seems to be a pain in the arse on some guide layouts and get the rotor balance issue ironed out at launch....
ha, that reel foot. you know, on my Spheros 6k, i did notice that it almost points away from my trevala (weird). but, under load and bent over a rail, the reel seems pointed straight at the largest guide, so maybe that's why the parallel foot is a thing, and surf casters/poppers aren't happy with the jigging-first design (total assumption). and yes, i'm kinda curious what the new Gosa brings to the table that the current TP doesn't. i suspect, they kill the Spheros completely, fancy up the Gosa with a lighter Sustain-ish spool and rotor, and drop the Gosa msrp under 300 to stymie the next Slammer/Daiwa equivalent. if you get a sneak peek lemme know!
The main issue is how it twangs the stripper guide ring. It doens't bother everyone. But it does some. And one some setups it's really noticeable. I really hope they bring it like the spinfisher vi. With a baitrunner, and long cast option.. I hope they slap on a ci4 rotor on the smaller sizes and wouldn't mind if they start the alu rotors on the 8 and 10k. That could bring the weight down to sub saltiga 4k weight. If they brought it to the table with double lipped seals at the side plates they'd steal quite a bit of market from vs provided they re issue the bailess option (hopefully one that is balanced not like on the gosa f)
the gosa 10000 has a relatively slow retrieve @ 105cm per turn nicely the new 14000 gosa has upped the ratio to 135cm! and i believe the new 18000 is 140 cm . retrieve is very important for topwater , to get them floaty wooden things working at the right tempo ;)
Amazing reels! I've been using the 6K and 10k sizes for years and they preform great every time. Caught some huge fish on both reels and years later they're still butter smooth. Beach, pier, boat, this reel flat out preforms! Great video!
I'm stuck on which one I want to get the six or eight thousand. I can't believe the 6,000 only has 10 kg of drag. That's the only thing keeping me from going with that one. I want to be able to use it in and offshore. An all-around reel. Which is best for all purpose? And then the 8000 weighs almost eight more ounces. I wish they could have done something for that in between of drag and weight difference between the six and eight thousand
Oh lol Don't worry about that that's not the information I need lol. Regardless if I get the eight or the six I'm going to have three different rods to put them on be it surf, inshore, or for boat. I just need to know if that rated 22 lb 10 kg drag is enough for an all-around reel@@allengallion930
I know 22 lb is still plenty drag but it's on the light end of what's necessary for bigger salt water species in my opinion. And I'm just having a hard time buying the 6,000 even though it's the one I want because it's 16 oz I mean my 5000 Stradic even has 24 lb of drag. I don't understand how the bigger more expensive Gosa that has a double stack drag has less pounds of drag.
What rod have you got this matched up on? I also just got the 2020 gosa 10000 and struggling to find the right rod for it... have had it on 3 rods already and struggling to find a perfect balance.
@@jacovd Bro, with a beast of a gosa 10000 reel, you should always match the rod specs and reel specs together keeping in mind of your targeted species. its kind of a balancing act.. but I wish I had your dilemma knowing that my reel can handle a water buffalo.. Have fun!!! ;)
I bought a Shimano Thunnus 16000f somewhere in the middle of 2000's. I still run it for Crab snaring and off the cliff fishing north of Jenner. Still operates like brand new and has never needed to go to the shop For anything. If I was in the market for a new reel I would lean Heavily toward a Saragosa hands down without a doubt.
It's a great reel for $300 if your not fishing from shore for GT anything over 40lbs Will smoke you on da gosa. Buy your reels from Australia the exchange rate makes the 2013 Stella under $900 with shipping and Shimano USA services them no problem.
id say stradic fk for anything under 30lbs. but if you're consistently running into sharks, rays, etc anything over 30 on purpose then you might consider the saragosa's deeper spool and cranking power.
I have two Saragosa reels - 10k and 20k Cannot fault them for the excellent value price and performance. No a fan of the twinpower. Rather get a Catalina for a similar price.
agreed. having limited experience with the tp and gosa, i don't see how the tp is worth twice the price. curious to see what shimano does with the next tp version.
Saw a boy on seabass fishing with his new reel Saragosa 5000 sw few weaks later big trouble with the gear, saved all his money to buy this reel. Got the same problem with mine Biomaster 5000 sw also bad gearing. Twinpowers from Japan never had this problem.
i 'think' the Saragosa might have been intended mostly for jigging/offshore, so the parallel foot helps point the spool at the largest guide when the rod is bent in a U (my Spheros 6k kinda does that on my Trevala). strictly casting guys prob hate that. i heard the rotor had a problem of being unbalanced at times which could lead to slight pulsing. i bet they redesign the rotor for sure in the next version (think Sustain-ish design, maybe even Ci4+ like TA mentioned).
Concerning the spool capacity-- I have heard estimates from the low 300's to 405 yds. If I spool this reel with 50lb. braid (say power pro for the sake of argument) under reasonable tension what do you think the spool capacity is from your experience. Thanks, Patrick
since shimano owns powerpro, their spool capacities are based on regular powerpro machine-wound on spool (super tight). personally i think i never get 70-80% of rated capacity, plus i usually use cheaper/thicker braid.
Hello there nice video I’ve got two of the 10,000 I’m looking to buy the 14,000 and I would like to have your advice would it make a difference thanks take care
thanks for the great review. Double check: does a 6000 spool fit on a 5000 reel? What I understand is that 5k and 6k are the same apart from the spool, so spools should be interchangeable, but want to be sure. Can get a good deal on a 5K. grtz
so i remember reading a thread on JH Tackle gosa review vid that he confirmed with shimano reps that 5 and 6k are interchangeable and 8 and 10k are interchangeable. they don't advertise this because, of course, they want you to buy multiple reels.
@@ishwithfish ok, thanks for the info, Ish! I have ordered the 5k size reel and got it for a Spheros price. Cannot wait to receive it and fish it. Grtz
Trying to decide on a Saragosa 5000 or Stradic FK 5000 for snapper and other 15-30lb fish. Would be using on a Daiwa Saltist Coastal 7-12kg rod. Any thoughts or pros v cons??
i like the gosa for jigging. powerful with a deeper spool capacity than like-size fk imo. fk would be better for sight casting, gosa for everything else on a boat.
11' i'd consider the 8000, should provide good counter balance to that rod length (i assume thin plugging blank?), almost equal weight to the bg5000 for example. if you're chunking i'd go with the 10000👍🏼
Good to know about the Ballistic. I'll check that out thanks. Wow that 8000 looks huge! Definitely using the setup strictly for plugging so I'll compare the oz difference between that and the 6000. Would like to have the lightest outfit possible.
Hi Ish, The Saragosa has a higher gear ratio than the Spheros which in most cases wouldn't be ideal for beach plugging .Would the Saragosa still be your choice? How would you compare it to a Ballistic or Saltist for the same type of use? Thanks.
@@ishwithfishSnook and tarpon. Need to make long casts where I fish. Usually use a 9 foot rod. Definitely gonna try a 5000 size gosa in the near future.
I purchased this reel today, with the bail arm open the reel handle is quite stiff to turn/wind but it is fine with the bail arm closed I loosened the drag but the reel handle is still stiff to turn/wind with the bail arm open. I have never had this with a reel at anytime is this normal? or should I contact Amazon to return/replace the reel?
Jaima Large reels are harder to flip the bail while turning the handle. This is usual, and you shouldn’t use the handle just use your hand. Its just one less breaking point, don’t get a new one. It’s normal
Also, adjusting the drag would not change anything. The rotor is connected to the handle through the gears and has no correlation to the spool so tightening drag would only tighten the spool.
i'm 90% sure you can. i followed a thread on this exact question in the J&H review of this reel, and Josh mentioned he confirmed with Shimano reps that the 8k and 10k spools are interchangeable. Shimano doesn't advertise this because of course, they want you to just buy two reels.
after a couple day of my research, I have plan to buy Saragosa this week. compare to Spinfisher VI, which one make worth of the money? what your suggestion? thanks in advance.
to take a hard look at the ssvi. per tackle advisors, it's the next best reel under the saragosa at half the price! my suggestion is: shore based fishing, get the ssvi ... boat jigging or boat plugging, get the gosa👍
just bought a ssvi on amazon for $120. Great smooth reel for the prize, with insanely satisfying drag. I've never owned a Penn but this sold me, for reel. The only thing I don't like is the handle, but it not a big deal. For the price and the sealing assurance, this is a great surf reel. Personally, I thought about getting the Seragosa for bottom fishing/yellowtail off charter boats, but a Diawa BG at 6500 or greater will prob do just as well for substantially less ($80-$120 amazon).
Hi. Great review. I reticently purchased the Saragosa 6000 for my Tsunami Air Elite 1102M surf rod (11/18). The reel performs as expected which is great. I do have a thumping as I real in though. The angle of the Saragosa is 0 degrees which is parallel to the rod. Most reels if I m correct have a 3-5 degree angle towards the rod. The thumping is coming from the line hitting the bottom of the first guide as I reel in which is distracting. Is this a rod reel mismatch? This is the first I have ever heard of this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
hi, thx for watching. so the 2 biggest flaws with the current Gosa are the parallel foot (surf casters #1 pain point) and the rotor which has been known to be a bit off balance in some reels (pain point for popper guys). my 20k Gosa and my 6000SW Spheros has the same foot design but the rotors seem perfect. my assumption for the foot design is this: this was primarily designed to be a bottom jigging/pelagic topwater reel first, and was later adopted by surf guys. when bent over a boat rail, the lower guides of the jigging rod are bent over past the spool, and the parallel foot produces a perfect line lay, at the expense of surf cast rods that need the 5 degree tilt towards the bottom guide for shore casting. i 100% think Shimano will correct this in the next version (Spheros too) and throw Ci4 in a better balanced rotor too. the reel is so successful as-is I can see why Shimano hasn't wanted to change them up just yet. imo Okuma's Makaira, Tsunami's Salt X and and Penn's SSVI will force their hand soon enough.
I bought a 8000 last year and the bail spring allready does not work. I am a big shimano guy but not happy with this reel. 6 months old and all ready failed.
My nasci 4000 bail broke the second day fishing . Took it back to Cabela's. They exchanged it . Caught two hound fish on it and smaller King fish. I do like the Nasci alot.
The reel should still be under manufacturer warranty, Shimano take the piss out of European buyers ie the Saragosa 10000sw in Australia has a 10 years warranty card supplied with the reel but in Europe there is no warranty card at all with the reel, I don’t think Shimano know about our laws under “Fit For Purpose” which can be claimed against for up to 5 years
Apparantly only the big Penn reels are made in America, the spin reels are made in China. I know my Penn Fierce II was made in China. Might be why it is now FUCKED. Stay away from Penn
What you mean no PG, I think it says pretty much everywhere online and he also showed some "about" info that this model, the 10 000 has PG since anything below the 5:1 is considered PG, I don't get what you mean? Like this big but only reeling in 85-90cm?
I'm a Shimano man but in the higher range the Stella doesn't come close to the Expedition and Dogfight. At the 300 price pt nothing in Daiwa comes close to the Saragosa
depends on species? for surf, any surfcasting rod with large, double footed guides like the shimano tiralejo. for pelagic, maybe the shimano terez. for jigging, the shimano trevala. very versatile👍
GOOD REVIEW !, but Saragosa is not suitable for pelagic popping!!(only medium spinning up to 8000hg)....10k-20k 4.9-4.4 low ratio for jigging. There is only stella 18k They should release a big model Saragosa hg!.So could you compete with a daiwa bg, saltist, slammer (similar quality?),......
ONLY if you have a close and good service support by Daiwa, since it's almost impossible to get their mag oil, so better make sure there will be a Daiwa service near by (or not, but at least in your country) or just go with the previous model BG, they are still very much available...
Ish With Fish mis-represents this product/reel!!! The 10000 Saragossa has a plastic rotor! I wished that the Tackle Advisor would have pointed this out!!! :(
Mitch Lnu Tackle Advisors said that it had a plastic rotor! I have seen a Saragossa 10000 with a rotor that got cracked beyond repair (both sides) from a large fish!
mate your video guides a lot of people onto my channel as it is linked through Saragosa, it is my go to reel for price and performance check out my channel and you will see my Saragosa 20000 knocking 30kg kingfish over!! even with some inexperienced anglers on my boat!! I have had the 20000 fully locked and still peeling line and handled the heat!!
very nice video just subscribe to your channel I have the 6k, 8k, n 10 k gosa. the 10 k is very special to me I have being fishing the cape c canal with heavy jig, pencil popper, those magic swimmers with no problem whatsoever thumbs up am waiting for shimano drop the price n I will get one more 10 k. Ish With Fish thanks for the video.
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I own one of those and I am really impressed with the power cranking, the drag smoothness and the fish were brought in with ease. I fish both in fresh and saltwater for salmon from 10 to 65 lbs in Alaska. This is the poor man's Stella and will not break your bank account. Highly recommended.
For everyone who has hard time deciding between 5000 saragosa or stradic..... if you use very thin braid (pe #1.5-2) and cast far, go with stradic fk or new fl. Stradic has a worm gear and it wraps line much tighter (more wraps top to bottom). Stradics are amazing reels for their size, I have used stradic 3000fk for king salmon up to 25 pounds with no problems for few seasons (I did install carbontex drag from day 1). I also lifted few smaller bonito up the pier using stradic 5000 without having to pump the rod. Using heavier line on stradic may cause issues with long distance casts. And it will not fit as much line. So if you are using heavier braids then go with saragosa. For those that use mono, just go with spheros and save some money because there's no need for powerful drag. Also, both spheros and saragosa are better sealed than stradic and can take more abuse on the beach.
great feedback, thx!
Awesome reel! Took my 10,000 out to Mexico water this past week and hooked up to two bluefin tunas. Pulled the hook on one and landed the other. Reel screamed like theirs no tomorrow but handled the fish just fine. Highly recommend!
My dad lost his first bluefin tuna ever today fishing a brand new Penn slammer 3 5500. The gears took a shit and was the most frustrating thing ever trying to get that tuna boat side. Thanks for the review. I'm gonna pick up one of these quality reels up for him tomorrow.
Yeah my penn spinfisher v reels have amazing drag but the gears went to shit pretty fast
Great vid (as always). I especially appreciate the size comparisons 👍👍
I love the Saragosa reels I have a 20000 and 10000 models and the new 2020 model 6000 , I also have a Stella but I don’t use it much because it cost too much and I don’t wanna damage it so I just use my Saragosa and if I damage that i won’t be too upset.
thx for the feedback!
Love that reel! First time using it I caught a 33lb ling. Had I known the 8k and 10k uses same body I would've got the 10k. If you look at the price now the 10k is actually a little less. Great review Ish!
thx braddah!
Love the Video! Very well put together!
thx😁
Good stuff!! The reel question now is.....when is the new gosa gonna hit...and how are they gonna screw it up...It used to be gosa and stella...with no worry of encroaching on sales since there wasn't a Twinpower to speak of in the US market......Now....With the TP SW a thing....Are they going to update the Gosa SW before the TP SW and try not to make it a more compelling buy. I hope they scrap that stupid parallel reel foot that seems to be a pain in the arse on some guide layouts and get the rotor balance issue ironed out at launch....
ha, that reel foot. you know, on my Spheros 6k, i did notice that it almost points away from my trevala (weird). but, under load and bent over a rail, the reel seems pointed straight at the largest guide, so maybe that's why the parallel foot is a thing, and surf casters/poppers aren't happy with the jigging-first design (total assumption). and yes, i'm kinda curious what the new Gosa brings to the table that the current TP doesn't. i suspect, they kill the Spheros completely, fancy up the Gosa with a lighter Sustain-ish spool and rotor, and drop the Gosa msrp under 300 to stymie the next Slammer/Daiwa equivalent. if you get a sneak peek lemme know!
The main issue is how it twangs the stripper guide ring. It doens't bother everyone. But it does some. And one some setups it's really noticeable. I really hope they bring it like the spinfisher vi. With a baitrunner, and long cast option.. I hope they slap on a ci4 rotor on the smaller sizes and wouldn't mind if they start the alu rotors on the 8 and 10k. That could bring the weight down to sub saltiga 4k weight. If they brought it to the table with double lipped seals at the side plates they'd steal quite a bit of market from vs provided they re issue the bailess option (hopefully one that is balanced not like on the gosa f)
Echoes my thoughts exactly..I wish someone could tell me why they used a parallel reel foot,,still a mystery.
the gosa 10000 has a relatively slow retrieve @ 105cm per turn nicely the new 14000 gosa has upped the ratio to 135cm! and i believe the new 18000 is 140 cm . retrieve is very important for topwater , to get them floaty wooden things working at the right tempo ;)
Great feedback, thank you!
I use a gosa and spheros 6k for cape cod fishing. Both excellent reels
Travis B stripers ?
Amazing reels! I've been using the 6K and 10k sizes for years and they preform great every time. Caught some huge fish on both reels and years later they're still butter smooth. Beach, pier, boat, this reel flat out preforms! Great video!
I'm stuck on which one I want to get the six or eight thousand. I can't believe the 6,000 only has 10 kg of drag. That's the only thing keeping me from going with that one. I want to be able to use it in and offshore. An all-around reel. Which is best for all purpose? And then the 8000 weighs almost eight more ounces. I wish they could have done something for that in between of drag and weight difference between the six and eight thousand
@@seanaltman3611 what rod are you pairing it with. The 8k is a heavy reel
Oh lol Don't worry about that that's not the information I need lol. Regardless if I get the eight or the six I'm going to have three different rods to put them on be it surf, inshore, or for boat. I just need to know if that rated 22 lb 10 kg drag is enough for an all-around reel@@allengallion930
I know 22 lb is still plenty drag but it's on the light end of what's necessary for bigger salt water species in my opinion. And I'm just having a hard time buying the 6,000 even though it's the one I want because it's 16 oz I mean my 5000 Stradic even has 24 lb of drag. I don't understand how the bigger more expensive Gosa that has a double stack drag has less pounds of drag.
Would you guys recommend the Saragossa over the Shimano CI4 for Bonito fishing?
Any day I’d take the gosa any day
Take Gosa any day the CI4 doesn’t feel as solid and is more for freshwater fishing.
Here in New Zealand, we call these reels "Stella-gosa" 🤣😉
Ale Gee ... and Teddles, you would no doubt be a Pom, stuck in your cold and bitter world ... lol
Iam from east German and I want a Gossa...
A Stella Gossa
Ish can you do a review on the penn spinfisher 6
Just picked up the 2020 model, hope it lives up to its predecessor! 🎣🎣🎣😎
🙌🏽🙌🏽 have fun!
What rod have you got this matched up on? I also just got the 2020 gosa 10000 and struggling to find the right rod for it... have had it on 3 rods already and struggling to find a perfect balance.
@@jacovd Bro, with a beast of a gosa 10000 reel, you should always match the rod specs and reel specs together keeping in mind of your targeted species. its kind of a balancing act.. but I wish I had your dilemma knowing that my reel can handle a water buffalo.. Have fun!!! ;)
Caught a 39.5" striper and a 45" at cape cod canal with the saragosa awesome reel.
ah man, the stuff dreams are made of! nice catches, thx for sharing.
Oh yeah??? Lol
Size 6000
Splendid, it is a beauty... lovely video.
I bought a Shimano Thunnus 16000f somewhere in the middle of 2000's.
I still run it for Crab snaring and off the cliff fishing north of Jenner.
Still operates like brand new and has never needed to go to the shop
For anything. If I was in the market for a new reel I would lean
Heavily toward a Saragosa hands down without a doubt.
great feedback, thx! my buddy was looking for a heavy sturgeon bait feeder, i'll recommend the thunnus👍
It's awesome , i 've got 2 of these ,it 's the best for yellow tail kingfish.Good vid.
Too weak unlues you have 20000 and then to heavy for.long casting sessions
I have the spheros 20000 pretty much the same reel best reels ever
It's a great reel for $300 if your not fishing from shore for GT anything over 40lbs Will smoke you on da gosa. Buy your reels from Australia the exchange rate makes the 2013 Stella under $900 with shipping and Shimano USA services them no problem.
I fish from shore and regularly landed 120+ lb tarpon on gosa
Dude what do you think about the Shimano biomaster ? Vs the Saragossa
Good explanation i want one to buy thank you
4:29 great piece of info
between stradic and Saragossa 5000, which would be a better choice for pier/inshore fishing? I'm leaning towards stradic mostly due to weight.
id say stradic fk for anything under 30lbs. but if you're consistently running into sharks, rays, etc anything over 30 on purpose then you might consider the saragosa's deeper spool and cranking power.
What instrument is played in your intros? Relaxes me lol
Brought in a 150lb ray on the 10,000. Amazing reel, defenitely worth the money.
sick!🙌
i pulled in a 100lb ray on a baitrunner oc 12000
@@injectingRevolution I pulled in a 200lb ray on a shimano thunnus 8000
I like the Sustain better. Owning them both I just love the Sustain.
The Sustain is an overpiced piece of junk. Never compare a small fish reel to one that can handle serious game fish.
I have two Saragosa reels - 10k and 20k
Cannot fault them for the excellent value price and performance.
No a fan of the twinpower. Rather get a Catalina for a similar price.
agreed. having limited experience with the tp and gosa, i don't see how the tp is worth twice the price. curious to see what shimano does with the next tp version.
Love my 20000 saragosa 20kg drag
Saw a boy on seabass fishing with his new reel Saragosa 5000 sw few weaks later big trouble with the gear, saved all his money to buy this reel.
Got the same problem with mine Biomaster 5000 sw also bad gearing.
Twinpowers from Japan never had this problem.
So how's your biomaster SW doing? Was thinking of it or the spheros
The best there IS , i have stella n this one is just the right reel for money .
100% agreed, hits the sweet spot for price and performance imo.
How do you compare the saragosa to the slammer or saltist that was in the video as far as quality and reliability
Very well said, for the price point it's a winner. I want 3 saragosa reels! Can I get a yep yep!
yep yep me too! when the Ci4+ Gosa comes out (just a guess) and these current Gosa's go on fire sale, i'll be there.
Thing it became the new Stradic...
What are you thoughts about the parallel reel foot not working with certain rods and the problem with the reel pulsing or vibrating?
i 'think' the Saragosa might have been intended mostly for jigging/offshore, so the parallel foot helps point the spool at the largest guide when the rod is bent in a U (my Spheros 6k kinda does that on my Trevala). strictly casting guys prob hate that. i heard the rotor had a problem of being unbalanced at times which could lead to slight pulsing. i bet they redesign the rotor for sure in the next version (think Sustain-ish design, maybe even Ci4+ like TA mentioned).
Awesome review, I have the 6000 Saragosa and definitely a true battleship of a reel
Skyler Jeddore hey mate I’m thinking of buying one but I’ve heard it’s got this shit called auto drag how’s that go?
cheers from shimano malaysia 😁✌
Can you buy the Gosa with the round handle?
Concerning the spool capacity-- I have heard estimates from the low 300's to 405 yds. If I spool this reel with 50lb. braid (say power pro for the sake of argument) under reasonable tension what do you think the spool capacity is from your experience. Thanks, Patrick
since shimano owns powerpro, their spool capacities are based on regular powerpro machine-wound on spool (super tight). personally i think i never get 70-80% of rated capacity, plus i usually use cheaper/thicker braid.
I just put 65 braid on my 10k gosa and it took the full 300yd spool of powerpro. No knots or problems when I took it out fishing.
Hello there nice video I’ve got two of the 10,000 I’m looking to buy the 14,000 and I would like to have your advice would it make a difference thanks take care
i think the 14000 is bigger everywhere with lower gear ratio.
The line roller has a barring and seals around it, not bushing.
thanks for the great review. Double check: does a 6000 spool fit on a 5000 reel? What I understand is that 5k and 6k are the same apart from the spool, so spools should be interchangeable, but want to be sure. Can get a good deal on a 5K. grtz
so i remember reading a thread on JH Tackle gosa review vid that he confirmed with shimano reps that 5 and 6k are interchangeable and 8 and 10k are interchangeable. they don't advertise this because, of course, they want you to buy multiple reels.
@@ishwithfish ok, thanks for the info, Ish! I have ordered the 5k size reel and got it for a Spheros price. Cannot wait to receive it and fish it. Grtz
Love that music , Penthouse please
Do a review like this on the bait runner
The rotor is plastic all through the sizes. Shimano uses aluminum rotor in twin power and up.
Trying to decide on a Saragosa 5000 or Stradic FK 5000 for snapper and other 15-30lb fish. Would be using on a Daiwa Saltist Coastal 7-12kg rod. Any thoughts or pros v cons??
i like the gosa for jigging. powerful with a deeper spool capacity than like-size fk imo. fk would be better for sight casting, gosa for everything else on a boat.
Is it in Qatar available?
I need please inform me.
Saragosa 8000 and 10000 share the same body. Only difference is the spool? So best to get the 10000 and then buy a 8000 for backup if need be?
right. or if you can wait, the new redesigned gosa is supposedly coming by eoy.
Well according to this video, 8,000 rotor is graphite while 10,000 is aluminium but I know what you are saying, both spools are interchangeable
How would you compare this with the TP? Will it make sense to have a higher k in Saragosa over the better built or more bearings in the TP?
Saragosa is unbeatable battle ship.. no doubt..
But tp SW or XD is Battle Spaceship..
That 2 diferent species for compared..
Dont know if anyone will see this now but is it worth it to buy one of these older models now
Ish what size would you say would balance best on an 11ft rod for plugging?
Thanks.
11' i'd consider the 8000, should provide good counter balance to that rod length (i assume thin plugging blank?), almost equal weight to the bg5000 for example. if you're chunking i'd go with the 10000👍🏼
Thanks. Did you also do a review on the Ballistic LT?
@@rtorres3442 i did😁 on my reels playlist. great reel, super light, big improvement over the previous ballistic imo.
Good to know about the Ballistic. I'll check that out thanks. Wow that 8000 looks huge! Definitely using the setup strictly for plugging so I'll compare the oz difference between that and the 6000. Would like to have the lightest outfit possible.
Hi Ish,
The Saragosa has a higher gear ratio than the Spheros which in most cases wouldn't be ideal for beach plugging .Would the Saragosa still be your choice? How would you compare it to a Ballistic or Saltist for the same type of use?
Thanks.
I have a question which Saragosa would go with a 12 foot Century Sling Shot Rod
i'd say it's mostly dependent on the fish you're targeting. rough estimate, 6000sw for fish mostly under 30, 10000sw for fish consistently over 30.
@@ishwithfish the 8000 would pair up nice with st. croix mojo surf 11' 3-8 oz stick? looking for a nice heavy popper setup.
What's a good rod to pair with?
depends, what are you targeting?
@@ishwithfishSnook and tarpon. Need to make long casts where I fish. Usually use a 9 foot rod. Definitely gonna try a 5000 size gosa in the near future.
miamiwax get a 6000 instead, same body as 5k but more line capacity
Can I fit a spool from the 10000 on the 8000 srg?
hi, iirc yes the 8000 and 10000 share the same body, just different spool depths👍🏼
Is the new stradic better?
if it eliminates the foot angle problems of the gosa, looks like a lighter version of the gosa. tackle advisors gives it high praise.
Can you put Saragosa 20000 spool on this 10000 reel?
no, iirc 5000 and 6000 are interchangeable, 8000 and 10000 are interchangeable, but 20000 is independent wide spool specific to 20000 frame.
Thanks so much for providing clear info. Appreciate it!
Where i can buy arm handle assembly for my goza sw 20000?cause i was lost it when i was fished.please i need the original parts.
Ebay
Will 10000 good enough for tuna down south?
should be enough for yellow tail, yellow fin etc, but if you have a chance at anything over 100lbs might want to consider the 20000 (massive spool).
Was thinking stella or saltiga ,but the price man ..then Saragosa will do love the price too lol thx
Is it suitable for offshore casting, jigging ?
yes great for both👍🏼
Ish With Fish thanks for the info , appreciate it 🙏🏽
Is it good for shore or rock fishing?
yes, great all around reel👍🏼
@@ishwithfish thanks Ish🙏
hi please can someone reply,can you swap the handle to right handed on this reel?
Of course can
I purchased this reel today, with the bail arm open the reel handle is quite stiff to turn/wind but it is fine with the bail arm closed
I loosened the drag but the reel handle is still stiff to turn/wind with the bail arm open.
I have never had this with a reel at anytime is this normal? or should I contact Amazon to return/replace the reel?
Jaima Large reels are harder to flip the bail while turning the handle. This is usual, and you shouldn’t use the handle just use your hand. Its just one less breaking point, don’t get a new one. It’s normal
Also, adjusting the drag would not change anything. The rotor is connected to the handle through the gears and has no correlation to the spool so tightening drag would only tighten the spool.
Nick Julian thanks very much for the info mate🍻
Hey! got a shoutout from one of the best
senpai notices!
Ordered a knob thanks
I wonder if you get a 10k spool, would it fit on a 8k. Anyone know?
Yes it will
i'm 90% sure you can. i followed a thread on this exact question in the J&H review of this reel, and Josh mentioned he confirmed with Shimano reps that the 8k and 10k spools are interchangeable. Shimano doesn't advertise this because of course, they want you to just buy two reels.
That's the man right there! If you guys haven't seen Tackle Advisors' reviews, get your paper and pen ready!
6ooo can fit 8000
Saragosa or Twin Power SW ?
i like the gosa. TP seems not too much better for the bump in price.
The 8000 takes a 10000 spool and the 8,000 has a higher retrieve than the 10000
ooo nice tip! basically a faster 10000. thanks for the knowledge
@@ishwithfish
The internals are ex the same apart from the main drive gear so the drags should really be the same
Love shimanos but......
Now tell everyone about spares..they stop making spares when discontinued..
Daiwa spares backup is better..
Why does the saragosa have so many bad reviews on amazon?
copies?
Twinpower or Saragosa?
i vote for the the new tp, at least until the new gosa comes to market end of year/'21.
Shimano Zaragoza has XT7 graphite body
Saragosa
after a couple day of my research, I have plan to buy Saragosa this week. compare to Spinfisher VI, which one make worth of the money? what your suggestion? thanks in advance.
to take a hard look at the ssvi. per tackle advisors, it's the next best reel under the saragosa at half the price! my suggestion is: shore based fishing, get the ssvi ... boat jigging or boat plugging, get the gosa👍
okay, I got your point. thank you very much. greeting from Indonesia
just bought a ssvi on amazon for $120. Great smooth reel for the prize, with insanely satisfying drag. I've never owned a Penn but this sold me, for reel. The only thing I don't like is the handle, but it not a big deal. For the price and the sealing assurance, this is a great surf reel. Personally, I thought about getting the Seragosa for bottom fishing/yellowtail off charter boats, but a Diawa BG at 6500 or greater will prob do just as well for substantially less ($80-$120 amazon).
Hi. Great review. I reticently purchased the Saragosa 6000 for my Tsunami Air Elite 1102M surf rod (11/18). The reel performs as expected which is great. I do have a thumping as I real in though. The angle of the Saragosa is 0 degrees which is parallel to the rod. Most reels if I m correct have a 3-5 degree angle towards the rod. The thumping is coming from the line hitting the bottom of the first guide as I reel in which is distracting. Is this a rod reel mismatch? This is the first I have ever heard of this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
hi, thx for watching. so the 2 biggest flaws with the current Gosa are the parallel foot (surf casters #1 pain point) and the rotor which has been known to be a bit off balance in some reels (pain point for popper guys). my 20k Gosa and my 6000SW Spheros has the same foot design but the rotors seem perfect. my assumption for the foot design is this: this was primarily designed to be a bottom jigging/pelagic topwater reel first, and was later adopted by surf guys. when bent over a boat rail, the lower guides of the jigging rod are bent over past the spool, and the parallel foot produces a perfect line lay, at the expense of surf cast rods that need the 5 degree tilt towards the bottom guide for shore casting. i 100% think Shimano will correct this in the next version (Spheros too) and throw Ci4 in a better balanced rotor too. the reel is so successful as-is I can see why Shimano hasn't wanted to change them up just yet. imo Okuma's Makaira, Tsunami's Salt X and and Penn's SSVI will force their hand soon enough.
spot on!
What your choice brooo.. Shimano saragosa sw6000 or stradic FK C5000XG??
depends i guess? boat jigging and pelagic/big topwater poppers, go with saragosa. everything else i think that fk xg can handle it.
I bought a 8000 last year and the bail spring allready does not work. I am a big shimano guy but not happy with this reel. 6 months old and all ready failed.
ah man sorry to hear. fortunately bail mechs are somewhat inexpensive to replace?
My nasci 4000 bail broke the second day fishing .
Took it back to Cabela's. They exchanged it .
Caught two hound fish on it and smaller King fish. I do like the Nasci alot.
The reel should still be under manufacturer warranty, Shimano take the piss out of European buyers ie the Saragosa 10000sw in Australia has a 10 years warranty card supplied with the reel but in Europe there is no warranty card at all with the reel, I don’t think Shimano know about our laws under “Fit For Purpose” which can be claimed against for up to 5 years
Any word on an updated gosa?
nothing yet, let's see what happens in 2019
My 6000 wobbles is that normal it's that model
I only wish it’s cheap in my country. It’s around $650 to $700 dollars where I am
Saragosa or slammer?
imo gosa is worth the extra bucks.
Japanese intricacy vs American tardiness
Go figure!
Apparantly only the big Penn reels are made in America, the spin reels are made in China. I know my Penn Fierce II was made in China. Might be why it is now FUCKED. Stay away from Penn
no power gear option
What you mean no PG, I think it says pretty much everywhere online and he also showed some "about" info that this model, the 10 000 has PG since anything below the 5:1 is considered PG, I don't get what you mean? Like this big but only reeling in 85-90cm?
The best
The ultimate Shimano fanboy reel.
what, no love for stella owners? lol
I'm a Shimano man but in the higher range the Stella doesn't come close to the Expedition and Dogfight. At the 300 price pt nothing in Daiwa comes close to the Saragosa
Architeuthis Dux
Stella 20000 will piss on ur dogfight
I have the s6k and it’s fuckin boss I got rid of my 10000 it’s amazing as hell
which rod is recommended for this reel
depends on species? for surf, any surfcasting rod with large, double footed guides like the shimano tiralejo. for pelagic, maybe the shimano terez. for jigging, the shimano trevala. very versatile👍
GOOD REVIEW !, but Saragosa is not suitable for pelagic popping!!(only medium spinning up to 8000hg)....10k-20k 4.9-4.4 low ratio for jigging. There is only stella 18k
They should release a big model Saragosa hg!.So could you compete with a daiwa bg, saltist, slammer (similar quality?),......
great info again, thx. i need to get my hands on a stella and makaira!
shimano 10000 = daiwa 5000 ?
yeah, bg/saltist 5000 to be exact.
@@ishwithfish but .. in clip 10000 = dawa 6500 saltist ?
I’ll still buy a magsealed BG.
ONLY if you have a close and good service support by Daiwa, since it's almost impossible to get their mag oil, so better make sure there will be a Daiwa service near by (or not, but at least in your country) or just go with the previous model BG, they are still very much available...
Mag seal is pointless. Water still can get in it
Ish With Fish mis-represents this product/reel!!! The 10000 Saragossa has a plastic rotor! I wished that the Tackle Advisor would have pointed this out!!! :(
Incorrect. It indeed has a metal rotor, and is the first of the models through 25000 as such.
Mitch Lnu Tackle Advisors said that it had a plastic rotor! I have seen a Saragossa 10000 with a rotor that got cracked beyond repair (both sides) from a large fish!
mate your video guides a lot of people onto my channel as it is linked through Saragosa, it is my go to reel for price and performance check out my channel and you will see my Saragosa 20000 knocking 30kg kingfish over!! even with some inexperienced anglers on my boat!! I have had the 20000 fully locked and still peeling line and handled the heat!!
ah!, go with spheros if you need low ratio and spend less.
good info, thx!
100-150$ lure? For a 4-5 ounce popper? Ok
I have the power handle on it. That reel knob is gay
Why do you call it a “Gosa?”
“Very annoying “
haha i have some og friends that refer to it as the gosa, it stuck with me.
Ish With Fish got it.
BTW, great video. Congrats.
Never mind about the handle..I got it!..Sorry didn`t watch the whole video.
very nice video just subscribe to your channel I have the 6k, 8k, n 10 k gosa. the 10 k is very special to me I have being fishing the cape c canal with heavy jig, pencil popper, those magic swimmers with no problem whatsoever thumbs up am waiting for shimano drop the price n I will get one more 10 k. Ish With Fish thanks for the video.
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Too espensive
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