Just some info on differences between new saragosa swa and new stradic sw. So the body is identical in both reels, but jdm stradic sw has more options where you can have different gear radios available in same size ( 6000pg or 6000hg or 6000xg). Stradic sw 4000 is pretty much a stradic fl which is more of a finesse reel, very smooth, it has worm gear and x-protect (no gasket in body plate). But stradic sw 5000 and up is a saragosa swa design, not as smooth,, and does not have worm gear but has x-shield (better sealed, has gasket in body plate). And besides the different handle knob, the saragosa has a different and stronger drag system and different spool support system. The spool of saragosa uses one keyed drag washer and also has a drag washer underneath the spool which is much larger in diameter on reels 8000 size and bigger. Also, it has a drag clicker built into the spool where bottom drag washer is and it is has a rubber seal protecting it from salt water. So 6000 saragosa swa has slightly stronger drag than 6000 stradic sw, 8000 saragosa and larger have significantly larger drag washers underneath the spool and can be used with noticeably higher drag pressures. In my opinion stradic sw is more of surf/shore reel but saragosa is more of a pier or boat reel where you need stronger drag to controll much larger fish.
6:14 keeping it real mate, most would have edited that out! If this is your first review then i like your approach, the lighting, background setting, use of screen shots from websites and straight to the point stuff right from the get go (kinda hate when some add music on their reviews and have a long intro). Looking forward to your next review, you got yourself a new subscriber, cheers!
Thanks mate, really appreciate the kind words and feedback 🙏🏽 With anything, life always gets in the way. Hopefully I’ll be able to make some more content soon 🤙🏼
I'm still confused with Shimano SW series nomenclature. We had old Saragosa SW before, now the new version name becomes SWA. It should be SWB. But if we just accept it, it means current Stradic SW would be SWA as well, rather than the same SW name again without any suffix.
Great review! Been thinking of getting this but the fact that it is 5 years old, I'm thinking there will be a 2024-2025 version coming soon. Buy now or wait?
What size Saragosa and braid would you recommend for legal size Kings, Snapper etc around Sydney and surrounding East coast? ...(from kayak and possibly land based)
Yeah it’s a bit strange how they’ve gone about it. I think that they should have given the Stradic SW line all of the sizes and released it in the Australian market as the 2020 Saragosa SWA. But I’ll wait to get my hands on the 6000 before passing too much judgement.
Hi! thanks for the video. I need a shore jigging reel for my Majorcraft Solpara rod 1002H 60-100g. I'm about to choose between Saragosa, Bg MQ and Penn Slammer III. What reel and what size would you suggest me? I would go with a 40lbs Braid for about 300m. Thank you!
Not slammer III for sure, way too heavy. I have Stradic sw 6000 hg and slammer 5500, the weight difference is about 200 grams, it is tiring especially for jigging. Now I only use slammer for surf fishing cuase I don’t have too hold it. Now I am going to buy another reel and I am thinking getting the new gosa.
I haven’t had any real experience with the BG MQ other than turning the handle at the tackle shop. Personally, I liked the feel of the Saragosa more. There’s always going to be a difference of opinion and the best thing to do is to have a play with both reels yourself.
I have both the 6000 MQ and the new 6000 Saragosa. The MQ is lot smoother and quieter than the Saragosa. The drag clicker is the only thing I like about Saragosa 😄
Daiwa BG MQ is smoother than the Saragosa because of sealing. But i cant justify buying zinc gears for 200usd reels. I wish they make bigger sizes for Daiwa Backbays id buy those in a heartbeat.
@@ShinkiZer0 I am not talking about ease of spinning. The Saragosa feels geary. Daiwa is smoother because of the way their gears mesh. I never had any problems with the zinc gears in any of my BG's.
It’s a little bit tricky to give you an exact answer without knowing the full specs of the rod and what fish it will be used for. A generalised guess would be anywhere from a 5000 - 14000. Probably on the bigger end to balance out the rod.
Your information on weight is incorrect there is only about 10 grams difference between the weight of the second series saragosa 6000 and this the third series. Weights of both are on the USA website ( in ounces) you may be confusing the weight with that of the first ( blue) series which was much heavier, as the 6000 shared the same body as the 8000 in the first series ( it just had a shallower spool)
I’m referencing the previous Saragosa SW which was released ~ 2013 and is listed on the Australian website as 595 grams. I’m not aware of any other Saragosa being released in between that one and the current SWA? It’s interesting that the weights are different on the US vs Australian websites. Possibly variation in the usdm gosa vs adm gosa?
@@baytobluewater8165 very interesting actually the USA website which has both the new Saragosa SWA 6000 listed at 16.0 ounces the last version SW listed at 16.4 ( thats an 11g difference) ounce they also have the spheros 6000 listed at 16.2 ounces. ( same body etc as the saragosa 6000SW) I would be very interested if you could get your hands on an Ausi SWA 6000 and SW6000 and put them on the scales. ( the original saragosa (was not called SW) was blue and did not have the water proofing that the two later models had and was available up to 18000 size the original saragosa was designated F e.g. 6000F 18000F etc
@@baytobluewater8165 maybe a suggestion for your next review. get the digital scales out and compare them to the figures stated online and the box. I have heard in the past of Shimano mis-leading info as such..
@@baytobluewater8165 that gosa with the round handle is nice too Is that a gomexus add on? I do wish we had more access to the Australian/Asian market products too
Yeah, it’s the 45mm Gomexus power knob. It’s a much nicer fishing experience and I think it looks pretty great too. I’m not really a fan of the rubber egg knobs they come with.
@@baytobluewater8165 I just picked two up for some of my other reels It’s such a worthwhile investment imo, since we engage with the handle most of the time when fishing Gotta say it makes your reel look a lot nicer than the stock
I am looking for latest model sargosa SW6000 HG, So which one is the best for both shore fishing ? Sargosa or stradic ? Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy
Hey mate, there’s a bunch of variables to take into account. But if you need a bigger stronger reel then the Saragosa is the way to go. If you need something a little bit lighter and more finesse then the Stradic is the better option.
The Stradic SW is positioned slightly above the Saragosa. It’s a few grams lighter, has a different handle and different drag pressure ratings. The main point of difference is the gear ratios in each size. The other deciding factor is that the Stradic SW is only available up to a 10000 size where as the Saragosa SWA goes to a 25000. It all comes down to what you need in the reel.
Saratoga has the double drag stack where the SW is standard. The 4000 SW is really similar to Stradic FL almost to a Tee except the handle but $100 cheaper
Its cheap as, in the scheme of things. About the same as a quality pair of shoes. Given if its your main recreational activity, spend some decent money and enjoy the quality of the mid range reels.
Just some info on differences between new saragosa swa and new stradic sw. So the body is identical in both reels, but jdm stradic sw has more options where you can have different gear radios available in same size ( 6000pg or 6000hg or 6000xg). Stradic sw 4000 is pretty much a stradic fl which is more of a finesse reel, very smooth, it has worm gear and x-protect (no gasket in body plate). But stradic sw 5000 and up is a saragosa swa design, not as smooth,, and does not have worm gear but has x-shield (better sealed, has gasket in body plate). And besides the different handle knob, the saragosa has a different and stronger drag system and different spool support system. The spool of saragosa uses one keyed drag washer and also has a drag washer underneath the spool which is much larger in diameter on reels 8000 size and bigger. Also, it has a drag clicker built into the spool where bottom drag washer is and it is has a rubber seal protecting it from salt water. So 6000 saragosa swa has slightly stronger drag than 6000 stradic sw, 8000 saragosa and larger have significantly larger drag washers underneath the spool and can be used with noticeably higher drag pressures. In my opinion stradic sw is more of surf/shore reel but saragosa is more of a pier or boat reel where you need stronger drag to controll much larger fish.
The Australian Saragosa 2020 does not list having X shield but Stradic Sw does..
6:14 keeping it real mate, most would have edited that out!
If this is your first review then i like your approach, the lighting, background setting, use of screen shots from websites and straight to the point stuff right from the get go (kinda hate when some add music on their reviews and have a long intro).
Looking forward to your next review, you got yourself a new subscriber, cheers!
Thanks mate, really appreciate the kind words and feedback 🙏🏽 With anything, life always gets in the way. Hopefully I’ll be able to make some more content soon 🤙🏼
I'm still confused with Shimano SW series nomenclature. We had old Saragosa SW before, now the new version name becomes SWA. It should be SWB. But if we just accept it, it means current Stradic SW would be SWA as well, rather than the same SW name again without any suffix.
hey mate, ive noticed the new saragosa does not have X Shield like the old ones.. why would they do that!?
Great review! Been thinking of getting this but the fact that it is 5 years old, I'm thinking there will be a 2024-2025 version coming soon.
Buy now or wait?
Where can I buy one?? I been trying to find the sw10000 pg but no luck
Ordered one in February and can't get it until May 21! Where are they???
which is better, between stradic vs saragosa
What size Saragosa and braid would you recommend for legal size Kings, Snapper etc around Sydney and surrounding East coast? ...(from kayak and possibly land based)
From a kayak I would go 8000 with 50lb braid paired with a nice action rod 👍
Great review cheers mate...interesting that the stradic sw is essentially the same reel.
Yeah it’s a bit strange how they’ve gone about it. I think that they should have given the Stradic SW line all of the sizes and released it in the Australian market as the 2020 Saragosa SWA. But I’ll wait to get my hands on the 6000 before passing too much judgement.
Hi! thanks for the video. I need a shore jigging reel for my Majorcraft Solpara rod 1002H 60-100g. I'm about to choose between Saragosa, Bg MQ and Penn Slammer III. What reel and what size would you suggest me? I would go with a 40lbs Braid for about 300m. Thank you!
8000 BG MQ would match up nicely 🙌🏼
Not slammer III for sure, way too heavy. I have Stradic sw 6000 hg and slammer 5500, the weight difference is about 200 grams, it is tiring especially for jigging. Now I only use slammer for surf fishing cuase I don’t have too hold it. Now I am going to buy another reel and I am thinking getting the new gosa.
comparing with daiwa bg mq? how about that?
How does this feel compared to the daiwa bg mq, I've heard she me people say the mq feels more refined but then others say the opposite
I haven’t had any real experience with the BG MQ other than turning the handle at the tackle shop. Personally, I liked the feel of the Saragosa more. There’s always going to be a difference of opinion and the best thing to do is to have a play with both reels yourself.
I have both the 6000 MQ and the new 6000 Saragosa. The MQ is lot smoother and quieter than the Saragosa. The drag clicker is the only thing I like about Saragosa 😄
The new saragosa have two problems , shaking , gear Noise
Mq bg more smoother , light , balance ,cheaper
This time daiwa win
Daiwa BG MQ is smoother than the Saragosa because of sealing. But i cant justify buying zinc gears for 200usd reels. I wish they make bigger sizes for Daiwa Backbays id buy those in a heartbeat.
@@ShinkiZer0 I am not talking about ease of spinning. The Saragosa feels geary. Daiwa is smoother because of the way their gears mesh. I never had any problems with the zinc gears in any of my BG's.
Hello can i know the size u handle on this video this is saragosa 6000 8000 or ?
Yep it’s a 6000 mate
@@minicopilot1 Thanks
@@baytobluewater8165 really like your videos ❤️️ now ill buy Stradic 6000pg
@@baytobluewater8165 i have a question Stradic PG and HG which one is the best for chosing ?
What size would you recommend for a 13-14ft surf rod
It’s a little bit tricky to give you an exact answer without knowing the full specs of the rod and what fish it will be used for. A generalised guess would be anywhere from a 5000 - 14000. Probably on the bigger end to balance out the rod.
@@baytobluewater8165 hi thanks I will probably go 14000 maybe bigger just seen them in the shop 🙂
Your information on weight is incorrect there is only about 10 grams difference between the weight of the second series saragosa 6000 and this the third series. Weights of both are on the USA website ( in ounces) you may be confusing the weight with that of the first ( blue) series which was much heavier, as the 6000 shared the same body as the 8000 in the first series ( it just had a shallower spool)
I’m referencing the previous Saragosa SW which was released ~ 2013 and is listed on the Australian website as 595 grams. I’m not aware of any other Saragosa being released in between that one and the current SWA? It’s interesting that the weights are different on the US vs Australian websites. Possibly variation in the usdm gosa vs adm gosa?
@@baytobluewater8165 very interesting actually the USA website which has both the new Saragosa SWA 6000 listed at 16.0 ounces the last version SW listed at 16.4 ( thats an 11g difference) ounce they also have the spheros 6000 listed at 16.2 ounces. ( same body etc as the saragosa 6000SW)
I would be very interested if you could get your hands on an Ausi SWA 6000 and SW6000 and put them on the scales.
( the original saragosa (was not called SW) was blue and did not have the water proofing that the two later models had and was available up to 18000 size the original saragosa was designated F e.g. 6000F 18000F etc
@@baytobluewater8165 maybe a suggestion for your next review. get the digital scales out and compare them to the figures stated online and the box. I have heard in the past of Shimano mis-leading info as such..
Does the saragosa sw usually have the ball handle?
No, I’ve added the Gomexus knob.
Nice video man...i love the drag sound
Sound even better on a fish 🙌🏼
Yehhh
What Gomexus knob diameter you use please?
It’s the 45mm Power Knob 👍🏼
@@baytobluewater8165 i'm taking the 35 mm for my 6000hg i think that the 45mm locks better
I love the look of the stradic sw
I agree, it’s one of the better looking reels out there 🙌🏼
@@baytobluewater8165 that gosa with the round handle is nice too
Is that a gomexus add on?
I do wish we had more access to the Australian/Asian market products too
Yeah, it’s the 45mm Gomexus power knob. It’s a much nicer fishing experience and I think it looks pretty great too. I’m not really a fan of the rubber egg knobs they come with.
@@baytobluewater8165 I just picked two up for some of my other reels
It’s such a worthwhile investment imo, since we engage with the handle most of the time when fishing
Gotta say it makes your reel look a lot nicer than the stock
Great review.
Worth for money, hi from Malaysia 'same place with gosa' 😅
Nice vid! What website did you buy this reel at?
Thanks! The Saragosa was through a local tackle store and the Stradic SW was through Digitaka.
@@baytobluewater8165 nice! Thank you
I am looking for latest model sargosa SW6000 HG,
So which one is the best for both shore fishing ? Sargosa or stradic ?
Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy
Hey mate, there’s a bunch of variables to take into account. But if you need a bigger stronger reel then the Saragosa is the way to go. If you need something a little bit lighter and more finesse then the Stradic is the better option.
@@baytobluewater8165 thanks bro
who is better stradic sw 2020 or Saragosa sw ?
The Stradic SW is positioned slightly above the Saragosa. It’s a few grams lighter, has a different handle and different drag pressure ratings. The main point of difference is the gear ratios in each size. The other deciding factor is that the Stradic SW is only available up to a 10000 size where as the Saragosa SWA goes to a 25000. It all comes down to what you need in the reel.
Saratoga has the double drag stack where the SW is standard. The 4000 SW is really similar to Stradic FL almost to a Tee except the handle but $100 cheaper
@@Galvoflysoz There is no 4000 SW stradic in the Australian market and the 2020 Saragosa lacks X shield
Its cheap as, in the scheme of things. About the same as a quality pair of shoes. Given if its your main recreational activity, spend some decent money and enjoy the quality of the mid range reels.
So the stradic and the seregosa are the same...
Nice brother 👍🤙
Mean bro👍
Idk my twin power SW sounds alot nicer then the gosa.
Stomach noise at 4:36
😂
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