Vaush's Response Is Ridiculously Horrible
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I’m so glad Ethan won’t let this go. These people need to feel embarrassed and ashamed.
That not enough, they need to be removed from RUclips for showing that kind of stuff live
Never forget that the fools in loli hill will still be out there, they can never be allowed to forget what they tried doing until they are brought to their knees.
these people need to get help, thats what counts
@@master1sa fr. I didnt see the issue with lolis before vaush leak came. my gf sat me down to talk about it and it boiled down to me not thinking of drawn children as actual children. I have done an 180 and are against loli porn, its straight up an addiction that skews the line between fiction and reality. I would have never realized it if my gf shamed me, she instead made me feel comfortable and safe enough to open up and talk about the issue, kinda like vaush and people like us should do with a therapist.
IMHO what Ethan is doing is only hurting what he is trying to accomplish. Loli enjoyers will scatter, bundle up together to make a safe space while feeding each other delusions like "its only fictional characters" etc. I did grew up sexually fucked up which i think contributed to me having a skewed perspective on lolis.
@@blinkrogue1344Your girlfriend is healing you from being terminally online
Did I miss 20 years or something? When did beastiality become a dinner table topic? Wasn't this considered like...blasphemy like a minute ago?
This isnt a conversation you should bring up to anyone, why are _you_ talking about beastiality at your dinner table?
@@Ricardo50493 Apparently it's an open topic now, where you can just be into photos of horse dicks and not be looked at as a weirdo.
@@Ricardo50493 Apparently Vaush and fans think obsession over beastiality is a-okay. You Vaush fans will do any distraction eh?
@@Ricardo50493 apparently vaush and his fans love defending it.
I was honestly a bit surprised by how quickly people brushed past the beastiliaty topic when talking about vaush.
Furry stuff and fetishes are fine but there is a sharp line between that and actual beastiliaty in my world. Obviously there is a difference between an anthropomorphic man or woman in porn and a LITERAL HORSE. One is a little odd at worst and the other is morally aborherent and concerning. Am i crazy? I dont think i'm crazy.
I'm older, but he SAVED this to his PC, that's a heck of a lot of difference between "i accidentally viewed it" and "I saw something, liked it, and was gonna use it later."
The pages of Vaush's personal copy of Animal Farm by George Orwell are stuck together!
Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂
To the people defending Vaush… gross dude
“Guys you just don’t understand, I know he said all of those things about liking cp and its correlation to loli on stream for everyone to see including his folder of evidence, but it’s out of context and trying to engage is bad faith. No evidence.☝️🤓”
“Nonono it’s not mine I was just holding it for a horse”
!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE JUST GOBLINS YOU PRUDE AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Yeah not cool guys. 2 thumbs down 👎 👎
"Everyone at some point, has done it!" - O_o Why does that seem extremely unrealistic?!
He spends so much time on Reddit,he forgot how normal people behave.
@@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516for real, thank God I left that site.
because social outcasts finds each other
@@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516 It's show! My comment is maybe a little sarcastic but I still can't get over how, if the whole world thinks it's wrong, then what are the chances are that "everyone is doing it!". I still can't get over how he put that out that! It's like saying, something like murder is unlawful and Vaush could say "Everyone is doing it!". like the word he uses... "EVERYONE!"
@@DTailorUK for degens like myself, it gets desensitized over time
Dan: “ maybe if he had made this video months ago before all this”
Bro this is the third video he has made like this in the YEARS since those clips and not only that but over the course of years his story has never changed.
If only he had responded to Ethan with those video's explaining he distanced himself from those BS arguments long ago. Oh no that's not an option according to his response, even though it totally is. And also last week Vaush was still talking to Ethan about doing a livestream defending these ridiculous statements that he now doesn't stand by anymore. So your argument is invalid.
@@MAXaddictable my argument is that Vaush has made videos giving context and disavowing those clips for years. Those videos are on his channel.
How is my argument wrong when you can literally go on his channel and see the video?
@@MAXaddictable ruclips.net/video/YJIUXj8dsSU/видео.htmlsi=LbulKsjY_wVBpzTu
@@MAXaddictable there you go dude there’s on from just 7 months ago
@@MAXaddictable ruclips.net/video/PLj8hpqpjyY/видео.htmlsi=043e5JX-Vgo3wm5m
Someone please explain to Ethan that complaining about the filler parts of someones video is also a filler content. Mfcker really did everything he could to avoid the segment of the vid that directly called him out.
Thank you! I was really disappointed in this video. Didn't even show what the whole intention was behind making this reaction video. Ethan complained about the rambling... then just played the rambling😂
Smart move from him TBH, I wouldn't want to engage with the actual substance of the video if I was a SUBHUMANLY STUPID as Ethan.
No. We are not all going crazy on Hentai sites. That is so insane, CP aside. If your lifestyle is sitting at home watching animated porn with so little self control you can’t even think about what content you’re consuming, you need help and healthier outlets. Actual sex with real people who you can create a connection with, for example.
Well said.👏
That was so obviously a joke lmfao
@@BreadSlicer666 was the loli and horse porn a joke too?
@@melon. there was no loli, the horse porn art is weird but i don't really care. He's basically just a furry
@@BreadSlicer666you really need to re evaluate your life choices, you’re on here all over the place defending THAT 😅😵💫. Everyone who’s seen the images can tell what it is
Ethan is milking this Harder than Vaush is milking horses
As he should 🎉
Not really, it seemed to me like he didnt even really want to cover it anymore in the full show from this
Good, the more content gets made about this shit the more attention it gets, and the more people will leave vaush behind.
And he shouldn't?
if it was so huge why not call the police and not make videos to get views@@Nok112
This has essentially devolved into Vaush doing what Frank did in that episode of its always sunny where he accidentally sponsored a child's beauty pageant. He was so desperately trying to convince everyone that he didn't like kids but ended up just making it look like he liked kids MORE.
Except Frank didn’t actually diddle kids…Vaush on the other hand is a certified loli enjoyer
'Older than my daughter, younger than my wife.' 🎶
the sad thing is that in a show where the main characters are bad people frank didnt do anything to make people think he was into kids except say he wasn’t into kids. vaush on the other hand has a bunch of clips that make him way more sus. it’s be like if frank was whacking it to a kids swimsuit magazine then tried convincing people he wasn’t into kids
No this is not like the quirky sitcom this is actually disturbing
Please do not let any kids get anywhere near that guy
Or goblins or horses
@@FabiolaRVela I LOVED that he tried to blame it on goblin porn xdd
Goblin Shortstacks
@@FabiolaRVela goblins and horses arent real
Ethan: HURRY UP VAUSH SHOW THE CONTEXT
Vaush: So the context is-
Ethan: this is boring and I'm not gonna watch it.
Hes basically gish galloping nonsense to pad the time and use the jordan Peterson defense lol
Glad it worked on you hook line and sinker
@@CaptainCastle
its not filibustering/gish gallopping/grandstanding, he was directly responding to the notion that the context of the clips do not matter. acknowledging that he gets why people wouldn't take him in good faith after seeing those clips isolated. he's not just talking about the clips/screenshots themselves, he's talking about the conversations surrounding it, what criticism he agrees with, things he has changed in his approach to convos like this. watch his whole video, that's like. what it was about
The very first video H3 did covered the context. Every single panelist understood the cobalt analogy and pointed out idiotic the argument was. In the "Context" video, Vaush rehashes the same stuff, except with 3x more words and infinitely more condescension and pretention. Finally arriving at "I now believe this was not a good argument" and then a further long winded explanation of points that were immediately obvious to every other person in the world except Vaush. That's why Ethan cut it off.
@@mpaulsen6088it's really sad to me that Vaush's tactics seem to have worked on fans of his. He was not providing any context or new information. He was spamming words like a 9th grader tasked with filling up pages. The child labor argument did not need "context", Vaush's point was obvious even from the edited clip and the flaws with "CP is a commodity just like semiconductors" are so glaring that someone with respect for his audience would not even state them. And Vaush spent literally 15 minutes on that. It was the most ironically titled video in RUclips history because it was just a guy trying to sound reasonable and ASMR his core audience for long enough to make them forget the "Context" of the FOLDER.
@@Leipaawatch the Mr. girl debate context
Go to his video
Specifically watch that one
If you don't respond afterwards with
"Holy heck Ethan is either a Liar or just straight up malicious"
Then you're the one with a problem here.
Okay, I get the fact that everyone is milking the shit out of the Vaush stuff, but as a neutral party, can someone please explain to me how his video response is ridiculous. I mean, he states that its bad that he had the shit on his computer. ANd quite frankly the reasoning makes sense. Now whether you see that as a red flag or not has to be tied to his other actions in the world, and I think as a overall contributor Vaush has done far more good than bad. Whether you agree or no, Lolli is not illegal because IT"S NOT FUCKING REAL!! Is it gross, yes, but does that even matter? no it doesn't. Ethan sure seems to have quite the stiffy for sticking it to him over and over and over again. Move on already,.
They're online bullies milking for content. Vaush is just a really unsympathetic character and therefore a prime target for content.
Is that you Vaush?
@@elcastro5000he’s unsympathetic because he’s a narcissist and hypocrite who does the same exact stuff Ethan is doing. He’s a cry bully-like Keffals too-and he deserves all that’s coming to him.
You are not in the neutral area if you are pro Loli.
People who regularly watch C.P. animated or not are still pedos.
Stop defending yourself and seek help.
@@elcastro5000
Are you people sound the same, it's like you guys are of one mind instead of individuals.
I remember when you lolicon where against Vaush but I guess you changed your mind now that you believe he is one of you.🐑
Ethan glossing over how he completely misrepresented Vaushs conversation with Mr girl is telling.
Fact
For real…that whole part of the video is fucking insane lmao.
Nice. Just focus on one part of this whole podcast. Nice deflection btw. What’s the context for “under socialism the age of consent should be lowered?” Or when he said “if you really wanna fuck children…wait for VR loli porn…that’s the best WE can hope for” what’s the context there? Being edgy????
You’re overlooking all the facts of the conversation in totality. Even if that’s the case, Ethan’s criticisms are valid and Vaush is still sexually attracted to children by his own admission.
@@jimmyramos1989They don’t care. They think they’re principled intellectuals when they’re just in a cult of personality. Hilarious they pretend to be progressive
Ethan going "BRO GET TO THE POINT" 7 minutes into a video of the man defending himself from the most heinous accusation in the world. Like dude, you can't do that. If you gonna call someone a pedo and then get snappy 7 minutes into their defense.. You can't do that.
Ur a joke dude cry about it
Ethan took that Mr Girl clip completely out of context.
"Sitting around the common area discussing apartheid and the legal boundaries of when a rape becomes pedophilia with my friends" is the fucking worst. Oh my god if you feel bad how do you think the kids feel.
this is someone who should never be around children EVER
Those are two entirely separate concepts anyway since one is based on whether or not there is consent and the other is based on the age of the people involved.
Sitting back and abstractly discussing with your friends or chat the age of consent and using the "well there is no ethical consumerism within capitalism" to hand wave away an action you have control over is the issue@@shanesteinmetz4563
@@shanesteinmetz4563 pedophilia is all about consent which a child cannot give
@@shanesteinmetz4563Yeah. Thats why it makes sense to say statuatory
The thing is, he never really clarified his statement on it having a positive outcome for the child. he goes on a long rant (so you forget what was said) and when he does come back to it he changes the statement to something else and THEN addresses that statement instead of the original. There was SO much manipulation in this. but it worked on many of his fans. the comments are kinda amazing for the cult experiences.
Yes he did. Many times. He said that even if - in some bizzaro circumstance - a relationship with an adult had a positive effect for a child, it would still be wrong according to act utilitarianism. So there is never an excuse for it. That's his argument.
I agree 100%. When he states that only four types of people are watching this forgetting to State the fifth group which is the majority of us.
The group that is finding this disturbing and piecing together his past along with his tax folders. But he can't categorize us because then he has to take responsibility for everything he has done.
He is arrogant and manipulative in every way. He tries to summarize everyones opinion into simplified nonsenSe.
in the argument he has to believe it has a potential for good. or it ruins his entire argument. sorry. he's a freak who downloaded what he downloaded. and did what he did to poppy. @@drthalasiren4411
@@drthalasiren4411 in what kind of scenerio does this kind of "relationship" can be healthy and have positive impact on a child??? Please im begging you to enlighten me
@@A_lu0____that's kinda the point of the argument. Even in a world where any outcome is possible for any event, even in the infinitesimally small chance that the outcome is positive it would still be wrong from an Act Utilitarian standpoint. It's philosophy mumbo jumbo that humanities majors like to explore as hypotheticals.
They're thought exercises. Not stuff that should actually be considered or acted on.
Academia can be real cringe sometimes. Especially philosophy.
Ethan pulling stuff from 2012 dosnt sit right with me
why?
I mean he also pulled stuff from 2017, 2018, 2019, 2023 and 2024...
his best years are behind him....
There are young pedophiles who discover their attraction to children as teenagers or young adults. There is a point to be made in trying to inspire these people to seek help and not demonise them straight away. Forcing them to hide doesn’t protect children. Some of them are very ashamed, they know it’s wrong and really want help!
Correct. It’s not just about power. They’re fucked in the head.
Thats very inaccurate
Ok...? Doesn't seem like Vaush is getting help. Seems like he's shamelessly doubling down
@@alexiswaddell3706 No it isn’t tho. There’s a Louie Theroux doc, and research on it. It can manifest from a sick mind. They should get help
I'm perfectly fine with them hiding in caves
he's really milking this huh
Not as hard as Vaush milks himself 🍆💦
Funny that H3 makes videos rather than calling the police for what he is declaring is a violation of Section 1466A of Title 18. Wonder why? It's almost as if he doesn't actually believe it himself and just wants to make money off the accusation.
@@drthalasiren4411 yea, don't you have an obligation to report it if it's that bad? they're both in LA so I don't think it'd be that hard. But nah, let's milk this as much as possible instead of reporting it
Yeah. Peculiar. Who's worse, the pedo or the person who refuses to report them?@@katiamanaganuwu
@@katiamanaganuwuvaush lives in the northwest. Washington or Oregon I think.
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
One day they will be free, i hope so
She was 9 years old.
No country is free. No human is free.
Legalize being gay in Palestine, and I'll care.
I've been a fan of both you guys and Vaush for a long time (H3 since 2015 Vaush since 2020) so I've reserved judgment to see how Vaush would respond and how Ethan would react to that. Ethan skipping so much of Vaush's response and literally mid explanation constantly pausing and making sarcastic comments not letting him finish really rubbed me the wrong way. In particular the Mr Girl segment just being entirely skipped when that was one of the examples Ethan pointed to as Vaush CLEARLY liking kids (going as far to say "he wants to f- 14 year olds") when in reality Vaush literally calls out Mr Girl for being very creepy about the subject and when it goes off the rails with the "what color underwear" question he flat out ends the conversation in disgust. I feel like Vaush was very thorough in his response, takes accountability where he needs to, and disproves the things that are clearly taken out of context to the point where the full context reveals anti-cp stances.
So it really breaks my heart that Ethan is acting the way he is here. I hope you guys reconsider especially since I've seen first hand just how much YOU were taken out of context when all the drama RUclipsrs came out against you years ago, and when they brought up your past (the n/f slur thing) to say you're a hypocrite when you actually grew as a person and changed your views. Like... I just don't understand why you're acting this way given what you've been through.
notice how NOBODY is defending vaush but his fans... that should speak volumes. in or out of context, i dont understand how anyone with a brain can think his behavior is normal.
@@xjesssssicai'm so very, very very confused about what you mean by this
@@panfriedegg5048 What part about the very act of Vaush fans defending him for having loli while attacking Ethan for pointing it out is confusing to you ?
@@jimmorrison903 I'm not gonna type a whole other thing so you can just read the reply I wrote to xjess right before this. Believe it or not I don't get a ton of enjoyment going back and forth on why I think x person did/didn't do something especially when I'm 90 percent sure there isn't anything I can say that's going to change anyone's mind. I brought up that I'm a fan of H3 as well, for a longer period of time even, to show that I'm not coming in with hate for either creator and hoping you guys would give me a bit of good grace. I didn't even attack Ethan, I'm legit just disappointed in how it's been handled. That's it. It's even more frustrating since people are labeling his fans as kid lovers or creeps, like bruh I like the content and the political takes, I like being politically informed. No need to go after us for that.
@@antoniolorenzo8621 Im a fan of Vaush too. I watched him in 2021. But I never was a part of his discord or reddit. The most I interacted with his community, was the RUclips comment section with small debates here and there.
That being said, a lot of Vaush fans say Ethan took it out of context, when the context was provided. When I ask them what the missing context was, I never got an answer.Some even told me it's ok to have drawings of children, because it's "just a drawing" and it's not against the law. When I hear these excuses, I understand why Vaush's fans are labeled as pedos, and I understand why Ethan is going hard on Vaush.
I believe Vaush did a good job at helping young people escape the alt right pipeline, I believe he did a lot of good. But as a fan, I am not obligated to defend this.This is disgusting and this is Vaush's responsibility. I might watch him for his political videos, but won't be engaging with his streams and chat.
Imagine if, hypothetically, I accidentally downloaded loli from a gallery specifically made to catalogue loli. Under this hypothetical, you would give me the understanding of everybody making mistakes (In fact, some would even say everybody has those days.) And as a result I am free of all questioning and charges. I rest my case, your honor.
@@Borodin410it’s difficult because the content in the folder is hentai kids so it’s drawings
@@Borodin410You’re awfully defensive about this topic, got some drawings on your hdd?
Nice deflection. So why hasn't H3 called the police? @@recneps1230
@@Borodin410 it's pseudo-cp. If he took this to the police, they wouldn't do shit. Why would he waste his time? Seems like you are just looking for any excuse to defend a hypocrite
@@Borodin410citing the laws is crazy
someone check this guys hard drive
I really hate to say this but I think this ones a big loss for Ethan here. Pretty much this entire video is constant clip chimps over and over and in the one portion of the entire video where Ethan legitimately looks for the context we get lines like " I don't want to hear about cobalt mines" when that was literally the argument that was actually happening. It originally had nothing to do with cp at all and only became that after Vaush made a stupid analogy. Ironically I sort of ended up responding to this video in the same way Ethan responded to the "context", I found myself asking to actually hear Ethans counter instead of playing silly one liners and replaying the same god damn clip over again for about the 10th time. I don't want to see that, what I want to see is an actual discourse. Ethan says he's heard the "context" before so where's the response? is it just a soundboard playing Vaush saying the word "horse" ten times over? is it the clip where he say's everyone's jerked it to loli when like 90% of all hentai is in fact loli? Hell a few years ago a gigantic portion of the content on hentaihaven was actually taken down specifically for that exact reason. It's an important subject that should be talked about and it appeared that Vaush's greatest mistake there was that he approached the subject with a really bad joke. I want to hear a measured response about issues like this and the "cobalt mine" issue because it's an actual issue that negatively effects people unlike this insane drama tuber stuff we actually got as a response. You yelled you wanted to hear an argument and now I find myself yelling to hear your counter. Where is it?
It's honestly very disturbing the high amount of people taking Vaush's side.
What's disturbing is the number of people who claim they know he has cp but are refusing to call the police. Aer you one of them? Who's worse? The pedo or the person who doesn't report them?
It's still fresh, and people tend to be uncomfortable when confronted with the idea that someone they like is into weird shit.
This is gonna sound weird, but, if he were innocent, why not just show the world the rest of his porn folder? Think about it. If everyone already thinks you're into degenerate shit involving children, but it's just those small subset of pictures, why not just fucking show everyone the rest of the folder? You're already being looked at as a sex freak at that point, caught redhanded with Loli, in a lot of people's eyes thats as bad as it can get, so why not just show everyone your pornos to shut them up if you're as innocent as you claim?
But you know, Ethan's a leftist jew, so in the eyes of these "people", that makes him an evil piece of shit, that's somehow worse than the guy shipping horses and children. Somehow.
Yeah. Ethan's never been wrong or intellectually dishonest before. He's totally acting in good faith here.
his fanbase is literally a cult
@@trippy5519Definitely cult-like. Reminds me of Nicki Minaj’s fan base. Thankfully I grew out of watching Vaush, but I fear a lot of his fanbase won’t.
The armchair psychology was a bit hard to watch.
I had to go watch Vaush's full video after this stream and I'm extremely disappointed in you guys now. You took some ANTI-PEDO arguments of his and twisted them to look pro-pedo. That's egregious.
He has actual child porn on his hard drive, thoughts on that? No? Okay then...
Stop
I've been a fan of both for a long time (Ethan since 2015 vaush since 2020) so I've reserved judgment to see how Vaush would respond and what Ethan would react to that especially since I've seen the context before. Ethan skipping so much of it and literally mid explanation constantly pausing and making sarcastic comments not letting him finish really rubbed me the wrong way. In particular the Mr Girl segment just being entirely skipped when that was one of the examples Ethan pointed to as Vaush CLEARLY liking kids (going as far to say "he wants to f- 14 year olds") when in reality Vaush literally calls out Mr Girl for being very creepy about the subject and when it goes off the rails with the "what color underwear" question he flat out ends the conversation in disgust.
Funny that H3 makes videos rather than calling the police for what he is declaring is a violation of Section 1466A of Title 18. Wonder why? It's almost as if he doesn't actually believe it himself and just wants to make money off the accusation.@@Zain24383
Amazing how low IQ vaush fans are.... And I used to watch vaush btw.. Liked his videos.. But Ethan is 100% right
Did Ethan rlly just spend 10 minutes of the video letting vaush build up to a point without letting him make it?
You're implying that Vaush actually had a point and wasn't just word vomiting
yes, lol. This whole thing was fucking pointless tbh, anyone who *actually* paid attention to what happened at all would be able know it's just some drawn out bs for content at this point.
@simplsaiyanappa6572 You not understanding his well paced speech =/= word vomiting. This is assuming that you did watch his context video, because that's the only explanation for claiming its content is meaningless flair. I mean either that or you didn't watch it, which is more likely.
@@simplsaiyanappa6572 How is providing context to the clips "just word vomiting" when he showed how Ethan edited-out the clips deceptively? I was on the fence about this, but seeing that overt sort of lying and deception is unacceptable.
How would you know, you barely watched any of it, because you have the attention span of a newt.
watch their other videos they've watched him make this same argument many times over. it is a bad argument and no amount of justification helps make it look any better. getting caught with a folder full of loli certainly makes the whole argument look 1000x more suspicious
imagine defending a paedophile. Says everything about how much I should trust you with kids.
@@yee2urhaw246 yea nobody cares tho
he literally isnt a pedo tho
So what about the loli shit?
@@dontmindme1025 nobody cares🥱
Ethan reaction was also ridiculously horrible. The only one with a moral high ground in this whole drama is Vegan Gains.
vegan gains tore his rotator cuff by sneezing on stream, total vegan victory
@@weltschmerz333 Injuries can just happen if you work out a lot and dont give it enough rest, ig you wouldnt know. But then again, veganism is a philosophy against causing needless harm towards animals so idk what this has to do with it.
@@BenjoCovers he did it TWICE LOL
HE INJURED HIMSELF TWICE FROM SNEEZING
ON
STREAM
OH NO NO NO NO LMAOOOOOOO🤣🤣🤣
The fact that Ethan is making such an effort to destroy this guy, regardless as to whether that is warranted, he should have researched into non-offending paedophiles instead of painting them all with the same brush. There are literally documentaries on them... It ultimately comes back to Ethan having the brain of a 21 year old with few critical thinking skills. Vaush is creepy af but Ethan is low.
Ethan’s unwillingness to watch the video and trying to understand his point just shows is all a bad faith.
no way!! hes not platforming a pedos defense!!! well poisoned!!
Love the part when Ethan is mad about Vaush not getting to the point… when he has control of what parts we are watching…
He says he’s watched it 2-3 times. So you’d think he’d show the more important sections rather than the parts that HE thinks are rambling and unimportant.
Then when Vaush actually gets to the point they turn it off?
This is just rat behavior on Ethan’s part
Honestly I think 80% of the clips were explained by the full context. 20% were still pretty weird and sus though.
Yeah, he's had to provide context for this type of attack previously. It's a little suspect that these guys ignored all of that context and decided to react to the out of context clips first. There's still quite a bit of sus, but this bad faith approach is just muddying the waters.
I agree. I thought it was explained well enough and he deserves all the criticism for his past behavior. I don’t think anyone really comes to get a nuanced explanation from Ethan tho lol
@@Arachnebyteits toxic for sure
@@vXn-vXn okay. vaush can be affable and articulate. how does that explain the loli and horse porn on his computer?
People used to grow up or move on from bad habits. Now they go online and find weirdos to reenforce their Deviant behavior
I’m at the 27 minute mark, and from what I understand people that have those feeling are people that were subjected to similar things when they were kids. It’s not a defense of them and they should get help, which is what Vaush suggested.
I've been a fan of H3 since the Hugh Mungus days and a fan of Vaush since roughly 2021. Seeing this whole thing play out has been disappointing on so many layers. Watching both creators' content, I'm so sad to see Ethan behave this way. He's demonstrated great personal insight and empathy for others, and for it he's grows into a better person. I was appalled at the first video about Vaush because I was already familiar with the clips and Vaush's response to them, and was just shocked to hear the H3 crew who I've come to greatly respect present Vaush's arguments so inaccurately, especially the Mr Girl video. And then I was disappointed with Vaush's nigh temper-tantrum of not wanting to watch or talk about the H3 video, all while shutting down conversation from his concerned chat.
I think the absolute lowest point as an H3 fan was when someone in the crew made fun of Vaush's writing and grammar in texts - as in it was proper English. That moment was personally painful to me, who grew up a nerdy kid who liked to read, because the crew sounded exactly like my childhood bullies. I can look past different opinions and controversial choices and bizarre kinks, but that moment of insulting someone for using complete sentences gutted me. It was like H3 announcing they did not care to understand the person they were talking to. Such a heart-breaking moment from someone as empathetic and insightful as Ethan. Using the soundboard over Vaush talking through his thoughts struck that same cord of willful misunderstanding. And mean. So disappointing all around.
Yeah as someone with autism I remember the feeling of a group of people all deciding in unison you were no longer a real human, and thus subject to whatever they wanted to say about you. That feeling eventually manifested into BPD.
Followed by all of the fans taking it face value and literally saying "This person is a danger to children in real life based on this information I received" pushes this past irresponsible into dangerous.
Especially given Ethan has literally admitted to jerking off to hentai, and jerking off to a 17 year old character who he described as hot. It's disingenuous behavior from unserious people. But it still has ramifications. These people will grow up to be reactionaries of a different type, they're not really interested in politics outside of drama.
I just looked at the folder and I can barely make out anything cause of the recording bit rate. How was anyone actually able to tell what the images were?
His "community", as he keeps calling it, has some real expertise at this.
Ive seen it all in HD. Google it
People have found the exact porn mag the jpeg was saved from and it indeed portrays a child getting railed by a horse
@@Leipaa So your proof somehow comes from an analysis done by the very "community" that has concluded he was not watching loli? Did I get that right?
@@TheCamps10my proof comes from the fact that people on Reddit figured out what the full size versions of those tiny thumbnails are. And they are sick pictures.
I love the conversation but quality stinks. There are “cough buttons” in radio for a reason.
Yikes. So much yikes
Very disappointing Ethan.
Disappointing that you all defend some dude who defends Loli and cp
@@mr.b9613Vaush fans are confirmed pdfiles
@@mr.b9613 He never defended loli and CP. Cope about it all you want. The truth will prevail past your delusion
The only people still taking ethans side are those who literally ONLY listen to ethan.
Literally NO ONE is or has been arguing for cp. No one. Everyone agrees its bad. Youd know that if youd been paying attention.
Nope. Long time former vaush fan. Vaush has been dishonest, cowardly, hypocritical, and that’s not addressing the concretely damning things vaush has said. He had a conversation with a fan about the “science” of consensual sex with kids. And said they shouldn’t defend it online.
We know the arguments. It’s not out of context or bad faith. Why does it not bother you that vaush is attracted to children sexually? (By his own arguments)
No not really.
I've seen a lot of comments defending C.P. in this comment section alone,I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of them based on your angry comments.
It's weird how people are still defending animated C.P. in this era.
Regardless of it's animated or not,this sh*t is weird.
The anime community should reject anyone defending this stuff.
Open your eyes and use your brain.
Both Vaush and Ethan's fans are equally ridiculous.
vaush's hard drive would like a word.
If you haven't seen anyone defending drawn cp you're a liar
Keep scrolling in this here comment section, they are quite literally defending cp it's a damn shame
So whats up with the gamersupps cup designs????
it looks like a grown ass woman with huge boobs on that cup to me. seems like a misspeak cause I've seen an additional picture saying they've never had it and never would. Just anime design
💯 meanwhile sponsored by a company that has young girls scantily clad holding stuffed animals on their merch 🧸
At least drop that sponsor if you are concerned about that gray area in adult anime
You mean the curvy waifu's with adult features?
@@TheLotusmasterthe ones in school girl outfits??? that say young and cheeky????
@@valentine3647 Those girls have defined secondary post puberty sex characteristics. The appeal of them isn't that they're flat chested toddlers with no agency.
If school girl outfits were sexualized, school girls would not be allowed to wear them in school. If a teenager had that cup it would be completely normal. Cause they aren't 30 like vaush.
If you're actually saying those cups raise a clear red flag to you, then the threesome with the flat chested midget "goblins" getting full nelsoned by an adult should have 100% absolutely raised a red flag for vaush
Thanks for the clear admission
He's just using the satire defense after the fact. All he had to do was put a sarcastic tone on it if it was intended as anything other than a statement.
Like if you never heard of Lolli or whatever the F until two weeks ago via Vaush.
Hey, is that the vaush from horsin' around?
Dude the beta vibes that come out of Ethan is crazy
Found the pedo
I'm embarrassed that I used to watch that guy
Ethan is just upset that vaush didn’t mention him in the video 🤣
Their favorite word is context😭😭
He thinks he can admit to where the internet was right without having to admit HE is the only person in charge of his behavior. He wants it both ways.
"Some of these drawings are loli."
"But thats the artists fault not mine."
yeah, if he truly in his heart of hearts didn’t know it was loli, it should still be concerning asf to him that he was turned on by it, but he doesn’t wanna go there. it would basically be the same situation as the jerking it loli thing he’s now saying was a joke/satire
@@grasstastesbad Or he literally didn't realize the character was a loli because he was saving a bunch of horse hentai images and didn't look closely enough at them to realize one had a loli in it. Obviously it's possible that he is lying, but why is it so hard for people to believe that to be possible? It was in a folder full of stuff he hadn't even sorted yet, so it's not unreasonable for him to claim he hadn't looked at it that closely before that point.
@@bunklypeppz It's unbelievable because you have to physically look at something and take it in to even come to the conclusion that you want to save it to your computer.
On the 0% that it's true, he'd be admitting he has a humanly impossible addiction to porn to be downloading that much and that fast and for years. He'd be downloading at high speeds to not notice.
@@JabamiInc He obviously "looked" at it, but that doesn't mean he was paying close attention. Saving something to a folder with a single click isn't as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. If he uses folders for the hentai he looks at, it's probably not much different than most people opening a new tab when browsing the hub for most, I don't know about you, but if I'm browsing videos, I don't need to look very closely at all the details in a thumbnail to click "open in new tab"-- if I see what looks vaguely like something I'm into I might put it in a new tab and look at it later. There have been times when I opened a video in a new tab because I saw a big ass in the thumbnail and discovered later when I actually looked at the video that it was a transwoman with a giant dick; which personally I'm not into. I really don't find it hard to believe that Vaush saw a giant horse d*ck, and saved the image for later without paying much mind to what else was in the image.
@@JabamiInc "You have to physically look at something and take it in, in detail to decide to save it to your computer." No, you don't. Not even close to being true. So, I'd say your 0% probability estimate is unreasonably low. I've definitely saved pics of models and stuff like that before while barely looking at the pics and then went back later and got rid of some of the pics because they weren't nearly as good as I judged them to be when I saved them initially. So, I don't find his explanation inherently implausible. I think your biases here are preventing you from assessing this situation objectively because you just tried to push fourth some objectively false assertions as though they were factual.
Please understand. Vaush doesn't know what animated children look like. Except that his favorite anime is Flcl, a coming of age story with a lots of children in it. The tv robot in his opening is from Flcl.😁
Bruh don’t tarnish FLCL like this
@@cheyunderwood7941 😁😁😁
most anime has all teen cast so does the illiad, cry about it bro
BTW the part where he explains what that beating to lolly was he is reading from the screen because he had to come up with some pseudo complicated intellectual bs to cover the obvious that it wasn't a joke but truth told what he does.
Ethan is wrong about the reason behind this sickness. You are born with it in a majority of cases from what ive heard. Studies has been done on this issue. Therefore demonizing them is not helpful. Action and intent is everything.
And im no Vaush fan i'm a h3 fan all the way
WHO cares!? They are a danger to society and CHILDREN. If they’re born with it, that sucks, but we need to protect children first before grown adults who are attracted to them. Which btw I doubt most of these people are born this way. But even if so, that’s just too bad.
I think vaush should've had just stuck to politics instead of trying to be some kind of weird edgelord than tries to rationalize c.p. not to mention what other kind of crap he has on his computer besides that creepy loli stuff. He needs to take his own advice and get some help.
he should stick to yanking his doink and skip the politics tbh
Ethan tbf I hate how you acted here. You're treating serious accusations as if it's just 'content'. Saying it's boring and not showing us the full thing. You guys dedicated 3 whole streams to this and expect him not to have a long, thorough response? Come on.
Man has loli in his pc and his arguments were garbage.
@@AnDr3w066lmaooooo that’s what i’m saying these n words are coping
Honestly tho what’s the point of listening to that guy ramble any more. He’s already been found guilty
They don't even believe it. If they did they'd be assisting a police investigation. They're not. This is their new grift.
Which guy? Which court case? @@sarvaise
Someone on Vaush's subreddit unironically argued with me that children should watch porn.
Do you think children dont Watch porn?
I unfortunately had received comments from a woman defending sending Loli and shota to children so I understand your pain. Lmao
Social media is filled with weirdos.
@@ArcaniaSkypirateDen9516 Predators take advantage of any environment. The anonymity of the internet is a delightful convenience for pedos and psychopaths.
@@benjattait’s not that they do or don’t. It’s about whether they should
@@benjattawhich is no
I like Ethan's shirt.
This content is what happens when you make a career exclusively out of bullying people so you can monetize the dunk. What happened to Vaush was funny, but not worth calling him a pedo over.
You're just dunking on someone who's actually defended you over and over again after Hasan's community cannibalised you the second you weren't on their level.
Dunno why I didn't quit watching your stuff after the Nathan Barnatt stuff where you called him a washed up youtuber after taking a joke too far and refusing to walk it back.
Like try to pretend you're different from the anti-SJW days if you like, but its clear you just live for confrontation and use a very thin veneer of wokeness to justify it.
I ain’t reading all that
Sounds about right for a H3 watcher nowadays@@recneps1230
Loli is CP Vaush has CP on his hard drive and you're perfectly fine with that. Think about what that means for you
Why hasn't H3 called the police then? @@OrlaTheVillain7466
You could literally look at anything when it comes to drawn porn, anything your imagination could come up with, and he chose to look at loli stuff.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Have fun with narcissists and con artists
“But guys that’s not my child porn, it belongs to my friend”, that’s the next excuse on the list right?
I liked Vaush for his political takes. I still like most of his political takes, he's a skilled orator as noted. But this is indefensible, and nor is there a need to. If you find yourself defending this get help.
his speaking "skills" consist of him slamming as many fancy words as possible into a sentence regardless of necessity. every time i listen to him speak all i can think about is the times i did the same as a middleschooler in an attempt to sound smart.
most of what he says has little substance hid behind big goofy words and a superiority complex.
He’s not dude come on, he just repeats the same insufferable contrarian edgelord takes over and over , while using big words attempting to sound “smart”
You made a fair, balanced and ethical approach to how you should personally handle this situation. Bravo and I'm sorry people are trying to dunk on your opinion that he's a good orator when he objectively is even if you don't like him
This comment besets me with tiredness
i happen to agree with Vaush politically as well, as does ethan. We have to back a pedo just bc he says some good things politically? vaush is just one guy, US politics does not solely rest in Vaush's hands
Inb4 the chat is flooded with disgusting creeps again
Disgusting creeps who refuse to call the police. Have you called?
The lolipops are sure to comment, brace yourselves
"My preferred strategy for keeping my desktop clean.." - Vaush, Lolicon Enthusiast
that person vaush is imagining that just "discovers" they're into kids at some point seems to be coming from a place of his own porn addiction, where apparently the stuff he got in trouble for is just a click away at the sites he visits. if you're looking at so much porn, like every day, to the point where it excalates and you only get aroused by extremely exaggerated stuff (like horses and you know), you are actively PUSHING what you are into that direction, whether you realize that or not.
Great comment, I wish this was a more common discussion
Thank you for bringing back shame Ethan, I really don't know how this weirdo can still have a community backing him
Maybe look for the context... 1st video literally starts with a barrage of 3 second clips....😂
@@yert5035the context is so much worse in what world is sexual harassment we're defending pedophilia even under the argument there is no ethical consumption under capitalism yeah but there are levels of immorality I can buy shirts from people who use American labor paid at Fair wages or I could buy shirts from African wage labor
Has vaush or the lollipop guild explained how a child / adult relationship could be good or have a good outcome? He said something along the line of that it should be legal especially if it was “ethically sourced”. How would you ethically source it? How could a child / adult relationship be beneficial?
There’s never an explanation, just repeating the same view points. They know there is no logical answer. The manipulation he’s subjected his fans to is almost cult like.
Yet again, chocolate, metals, and so on, CAN be ethically sourced. CP can not. There is no ethical option.
@@MadsOnMarshis source: “just trust me bro”
He never said anything of the sort, idiot. He said that even if there was something demonstrably beneficial to such a relationship it would still be immoral and should still be illegal. Nice try tho.
@@MadsOnMarsIf we're not talking about the content itself but the way it's sourced, isn't drawn or AI generated stuff sourced ethically?
@@DrMakak AI takes data from a bunch of information out there and compiles it into something “new” so the source material could be actual CP in some instances. I don’t think I’m explaining that very well but it’s the best I can do lol as for drawn material, the intention of a harmful act is there. The desire to get off (gross) or fantasize about material depicting children is wrong on so many levels and raises A LOT of questions. What was the source material for the drawing? Is this drawing inspired by an act you saw involving actual humans? Is this something you wish to do with an actual human child? While loli or a style that simulates CP isn’t illegal, it’s still not ethical. The intention behind it all is not ethical. It can’t be. You can’t ethically draw these things that show a child or childlike being, essentially being ab*sed because ab*se is simply not ethical.
Vaush needs to find his JRHNBR
this is crazzzy drama and also vaush is all around distasteful
One of the rare instances Ethan should actually berate and embarrass someone
Damn, this is cancerous...
I can't believe this is getting WORSE.
Please tell me people like this are rare. Children, animals -- intellectually I know, pedophiles are worse, but the idea of hurting animals is killing me right now. I can't believe his continual, unending bloviating -- clearly, it's worked for him in the past.
EDIT: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." Used to be a t-shirt.
is he actually coming out saying he cringes/regrets past comments? the guy still uses r-slurs, said the n-slur until not long ago, but he flat out goes on ableist benders when talking about/interacting with anyone right or left to him!
I historically have not been a big H3 or Ethan fan, but this dude has been taking a unique turn about what he speaks up about. Not saying I'm totally convinced he's a saint now or anything, but damn he's been on a roll on what he's been calling out lately.
Just because it’s not real cp does not mean the attraction to young girls isn’t there . The problem is clear when you have men seeking ways not to get arrested for watching cp without actual cp
Embarrassed to say I was an H3 fan… how the mighty fall
Yet you're still proud to watch vaush the pdfile
The only one’s backing Vaush this hard are the ones most likely participating in the same disgusting acts as him.
You, along with Vaush, absolutely disgust me.
No matter how many times you explain "these statements have no context where they're okay" to his fans, they're either too terminally online to get it, or they're okay with it 💀
The writing on the wall, for me, is, the frequency at which he dives into these fucked up topics. Like, if it was once, like, in answer to a question/statement in his chat, then fair enough. But he brings it up and openly talks about it ALL. THE. TIME. Which is a massive red flag, why is it on his mind so much? Why does he care about it so much? Answer seems pretty obvious to me.
Makes AWFUL ARGUMENT, like, 3 times trying to be an edge (all still end with him stating he is anti CP,)
Is called a Pedo
Responds
Is called more of a pedo for always bringing it up
@@jidk6565 He's called a pedo because he literally is...
This is the most brain-dead anti intellectual take I've ever seen in my entire life, you genuinely win the gold medal
Okay no at 40:53 there's such a shift in his body language too though...like I'm no expert but come on it's obvious where he stops his regular filibuster and starts being REAL F'ING CAREFUL...
This whole saga is incredibly satisfying
I’m gay.
nice 2 meet u gay
Yeah I watch TAFS too
For some reason Ethan and the crews’ reaction to his response reminds me of idiocracy
Bruh you're literally defending pedophilia. Just take a step back from the computer, go outside and take a walk, you'll feel a lot better.
Jokes about CP are just about as funny as Nick Funtes joking about the holocaust…..😒😒😑🤦🏼♀️
This Vaush guy suffers from such severe lack of character, so much so that he copies Destiny to the smallest detail.
Even as a debate bro tactic, debating CP is ok is just wrong and Vaush should know better... But he did have drawn CP on his computer, so Vaush is clearly a creep.
??? You're making things up though. He never took a pro cp stance. This literally never happened.
@@musashi-avi284explain then exactly what he was defending? that our consumption of cobalt and chocolate is the same as the consumption of cp? cause thats also rly fucking stupid
@@musashi-avi284He has drawn CP on his hard drive. Case closed, weirdo.
@@yee2urhaw246 nope. As he's said several times in the past, including the video Ethan discusses (fully timestamped btw) it was a poor attempt at getting people to acknowledge that child exploitation doesn't have to be sexual in nature for people to take a hard stance against it.
Yes, normal people believe this but for fucks sake dude you literally have mainstream republican legislators successfully getting teenagers into factories. This shit happens.
Everyone gets the argument. Nobody cares. It's a stupid one. @musashi-avi284
I'm just tired of people saying the most outlandish and unhinged takes, only to backtrack and say "it's a joke". This is what altrighters used to do, and it's sad to see Vaush do the same thing.
this is 100% for his audience
he puts so much effort into making sure his viewers see things and people the same way he does
mostly by lying and dodging direct conversation
his relevance was already fading when this happened and thank fuck, the fewer people that get taken in by guys like vaush, the better
WHEN WILL YOU TALK ABOUT REESATEESA!!!!
I just remembered that bronies are a thing.
I still dont know what the argument is related to the commodities angle. Ethan and crew keeps saying he let Vaush state it, but nope they dont because they keep cutting off the context vods in disgust during the preamble, which is annoying, both in this cast and the other one with Hila. Can anyone summarize for me the steelman argument there I don't want to search for it.
Someone being normal and reacting normally is annoying? I think you’re probably just terminally online and think that you’re a rational principled intellectual.
Spoiler alert: you are not
@@IamBrixTMyou can turn off the video in disgust. That's fine. But to say you watched the whole thing while you actively did not is what's annoying. BTW familiarizing yourself with the arguments of people you disagree with is rationalizing and actively building a foundation to your principles. And tossing a presumptive ad hom is the antithesis of that like: you are a dunce who probably lives in a basement and projects his insecurities all day for being born with sub 100 iq 😭
@@IamBrixTMIt’s a bad to insinuate someone wants to r*pe kids in front of an audience of millions and then not give them a chance to defend themselves.
We have literally seen people take their lives due to stuff like this.
I'd like a good faith conversation on this issue.
Yes, let's add context and do better. Maybe we'll debunk what's been addressed and generate some good takes.
It's crazy to me that people are still defending loli/shota despite what the content includes.🤦♂️
Edit:
Alright for the users posting comments that says "it's animated so it's okay" or "it's not real" please explain to me why a adult would watch something like this who isn't a ped*phile?
Why don't you watch romances or rom-coms with adult main characters instead?
He's an objectively terrible person, it's time to hold him accountable, and not just on this one issue.
He never said he had loli, nor was there actually loli in the folder.
Not dishonest at all... geez
Yes, there was. The entire internet has seen this. Not sure what you think you're gaining from saying a dishonest comment.
@@jimmorrison903 The worst was that there was a picture by a loli-artist - not actual loli.
What are you talking about? Delusional.
@@nonofyabidnez5737There was a pic of a kid su**ing on a penis. It was the thumbnail of one of the folders. You haven't seen the pics. We have. Again, either look at the folder or try saying that to someone who hasn't. Because most of us have. 🤷♂
@@jimmorrison903 You're admitting to looking at photos of cp...
@@dzhang4459 And you're admitting vaush had photos of cp. If they aren't then what is the basis of your accusation？
The classic teenager defense when your parents find your stash. Divert, distract, downplay and deny
I think about that Oliver Tree clip every time you go on these shitty super long drama arcs. The Vaush stuff is disgusting