I love how supportive and engaged Ethan is during these PowerPoint segments. Olivia obviously puts a lot of hard work into them and he never just sits and acts uninterested.
I think her powerpoint segments are the most entertaining parts of the show. I hope she takes a more prominent role with this because it’s seems like the whole crew + fans enjoy it
Some people not understanding how gross this is so bizarre to me. As a 25 year old, when I look at my cousin who is 14 she is a BABY. At 25, I would NEVER speak to any kids that age like they were my best friend. They’re children…. I can’t even fathom being 30+ and doing that. Plus, she did MUCH MUCH more, but even at the minimum just befriending kids was so gross.
Literally THIS. I am 33 yrs old and my youngest friend is 22yrs old through the K-Pop community, that's a huge age gap in itself. We (both cis woman) have been to kpop concerts together and chat about music etc. But I cannot fathom ever ever ever in my life befriending someone 18, 16 or 14yrs old. WTF? Let alone the perverted sh** Colleen and her 30+ yr old friends and family were saying and doing ?? This is so wrong on so many levels and they all knew what they were doing was f**ked up.
I think she was extremely sheltered her entire life, was homeschooled then went to a private christian college. So she never learned how to behave appropriately and that’s why she makes such immature gross jokes and says disgusting things to kids in group chats. She only started living in the real world once she graduated college so mentally and emotionally she’s probably like 19 or 20. Definitely not an excuse but an explanation. It also doesn’t seem like she has many real friends her own age
Right?? Also why was she even showing off and having her friend wear lingerie on her channel where she knows the majority of her viewers are children? That show have been the first step in the thought process. Yet she took it fifty steps further and actually went and mailed that shit to a kid. Disgusting and weird.
It made me literally cry seeing the photos of little Adam with Colleen, I’m 33 and not even a mother myself and my heart broke in half seeing him cry and looking at those photos of him as a pure beautiful happy star struck boy with her. Like I wanted to lunge through the screen and give this child a hug.
Absolutely, i think his reaction plucks a string in all of us because we've looked at old photos of ourselves and cried. It mightve been from a good time, a bad time, or good moments gone sour, but Adams reactions are nothing but relatable. Colleens, however, point to the fact that she had something happen to her as a child and she hasnt taken the proper steps to mature or heal
The thing that is most abundantly clear to me is that Colleen is so so emotionally immature… Like.. something is not clicking in her brain. As a 30 something yr old woman, she really thought she could be besties with 13-14 year olds fans… I genuinely think there are some mental issues going on there
@@0912sooliThere is a massive difference between an excuse and an explanation. Finding or speculating possible explanations for someone’s behavior is perfectly fine.
@ville__don't you have homework to do or something?? go back to school, kiddo. seriously, when you're older you'll realize how wrong you are. I could not care less about Adam or Colleen, but from an outside perspective it's clear to *any* sane adult that this woman is a weirdo at the very least, and that her actions were indisputably wrong.
Poor Adam 💔 imagine your idol ghosting you after blaming you for the backlash on something THEY approved, and then the entire internet berating you and calling you a liar, all as a child. He’s a tough cookie and I’m glad he’s being vindicated. Massive props to Olivia for this break down, she made a convoluted situation so much easier to understand. She’s awesome!
People forget that Shane had a group on dailybooth where he would ask his underage fans to send him pictures of their "giving birth pose" or "sucking ***" face" ........ Or his livestreams he used to do with his fans or interacting with them on Omegele, asking that one girl to twerk. And he exchanged gum with underage fans and kissed them on the lips. Let's not downplay what Shane did pls. It wasn't just his youtube content.
Many people are bringing up the transgressions of other Creators. I wish they wouldn't- It just serves to normalize Colleen's actions and what she did is NOT normal. There are conversations to be had about Trisha, Shane and others but this, right now, should be focused on Colleen and not diluted in a way that makes it seem like she's just one in a crowd...
@@athanksgivingbaby570 I don't think it is normalising anything by bringing up people like Shane- especially when the people bringing it up are saying how sick and twisted it is. I think it shows that there's a repeating problem of creators using their platform to abuse and manipulate minors.
Looking back on everything at me watching Shane as a teenager, it all feels weird to think I normalized all the things he did cuz I thought he was funny. But then one day I saw him laughing at his friend choking on baking soda and vinegar on camera and I started to re-evaluate a lot of things. His content just went incredibly haywire. And I couldn’t watch him anymore.
I tell you what boy. When they cover some tea they fucking COVER SOME TEA! OLIV, this is the BEST PowerPoint to date. You did incredible compilation of this.
The reason Kodee got cancelled was because everyone saw thru what she was doing. She was fully on board with trying to ruin Adam’s life with agreeing to conspire with Colleen about trying to frame him and then she only comes to defend him when she personally got burned. She didn’t care at all about redeeming Adam she just used him and his situation to paint Colleen in a negative light.
@@Juju-nr7cbI think Ethan thought she was also a younger fan that was being manipulated that's why at the end he was asking exactly how old Kodee is. I also thought this was another obsessed fan girl even if she was "of age" a 18 or 19 year old teen cam still be influenced by a person they idolize 😢
Honestly huge props to Olivia for sharing all of this. Seeing the drama through the POV of someone who was herself a huge fan makes the reality of these interactions much clearer, and it highlights how widespread some of these issues obviously are. Listening to her talk about her parasocial relationship was Colleen was interesting, and I'm currently thinking about where exactly the boundaries "should" be. -I see an argument for keeping interactions between fans and content creators as disappointingly one-directional and mediated as possible, given the obvious and serious potential for abuse. -On the other hand, the entire premise of the medium is the sense of intimacy and connection, and I can imagine that there's a lot of benefit there. If Colleen or her bestie were therapists or teachers, it would be immediately clear that they were behaving inappropriately - no reasonable person would listen to a teacher's explanation for sending their panties home in a kid's backpack or texting them details about their divorce, but I can at least understand that in ten years of interacting with a group of fans, as a comedian and in this grey area between friend and authority figure, people can make some poor decisions in the moment and later regret them. Maybe the period stuff was meant to be a bit, maybe it's some personal stuff she's into. Straight up asking a group chat of teens about virginity and sex positions though, how does a 33-year-old hit send on that text message?
@@spideronawhiteflagwow.. good point.. but like there's 100 z worse shot going on then Colleen. I can't help standing up for this in a sense.. I mean I don't know the extent of it.. but in all reality.. it was probably Cory behind it all.. and she was his puppet. And there's a who lot worse stuff going on than this
After Colleen's divorce from Josh, Rachel posted a vlog of her and Colleen being in Big Bear for skiing. There was a shot of Erik cominng out of the bathroom. I commented "looks like Colleen has a new bae" my phone went off. The video was then taken down and reuploaded without Erik. Yes, Colleen cheated on Josh. Otherwise, Rachel would have not edited the video.
Kode made fanfictions of minors in their group chat. And in a couple of them she wrote about them being raped. She's disgusting. She was speaking to children too.
I have followed Colleen for MANY years and I feel like Ethan was spot on with her being sheltered, selfish, and not thinking of her actions. I feel she isn’t aware of what 13 year old talk about and also isn’t aware that talking to minors is weird because she is still childlike. With being very sheltered and religious I don’t think she has learned this but who is her management team and why would they approve of her talking to minors In a group chat?
this is why homeschool kids are always gonna need to be watched with both eyes open. sketchy being part of society and not understanding basic social mores
in some religious communities, it's normalized for an adult to engage and become friends with younger people. When I was one of the Jehovah's witnesses, at age 14 a lot of my friends were between the ages of 18-30. I would be the youngest person invited to parties that consisted of 18-29 year olds. If she was in a religion with that kind of culture, that may be why she's so unaware of how abnormal her interactions with minors were. However, she should've figured it out and been more cautious. There are really no excuses for her behavior.
@@peachy_liliwtf? 😂 I did online public school, but I was also in dance and I was out of the house socializing every single day. I wasn’t introverted at all. And I actually got to learn at my own pace and fully understand what I was being taught. Now I’m a nurse and I’m doing just fine. What a judgy and weird comment.
@@peachy_lilistudies show homeschooled students don’t have worse social skills then other students, imo as a public school student I’d argue they have better social skills due to the stigma of being homeschooled
This is why we need to teach our kids not to idolize people,because they’re just human and don’t always have your best interest at heart. As parents we need to be aware of who and what they’re doing on the internet.
I never grew up idolizing people, except those in books because you actually know who they are. If I ever liked someone, let's say Robert Pattinson because he played Edward Cullen, my parents would be like, "remember Savannah, he's not the same guy you read in those stories." and then I would realize they were right and stop my obsession. I remember putting posters on the wall of celebrities I didn't care about only because everyone else did and I didn't want to feel like I didn't fit in
i'm 27 and there's a little 5 year old boy that comes into my job to say hi because he's bored outside and it's just like "hi, how's school? what game are you playing? what are you up to?" and i feel like it's a little friendship but my personal life doesn't have to factor in at all. he doesn't know me to the extent that he asked me if i would be dead yet when he grows up lmao. and i think the same should apply if they're a teen because they do seem really young as you age. you can just give a kid that support without being weird
I had just turned 18 and met a 24 year old and we started dating.. he manipulated me and tried to control me for 6 years... When I turned the age he was when he started dating it finally hit me how WEIRD it was and I ended it. My brain before used to justify all of the weird things he did as "him loving me".. he even had the nerve to tell me that I can't leave because now he's too old to find someone "as pure as I was"... Disgusting!
The shadiness of Colleen's divorce from Josh and her relationship with Erik that followed was when I began to look at her different. Joshua and Colleen dated for 7 years - they met when she was in New York and then he moved to California to be with her so she could be closer to her family. They vlogged a lot of their relationship and their wedding was huge. They bought a house together and while Josh was vocal about settling down and starting a family, Colleen was eager to keep working. A year after their marriage, she moves to Canada to begin filming Haters Back Off and Josh stays behind in California. He visited a handful of times and each was as Olivia described Colleen's trip home - awkward, distant, tense - there was clearly a lot happening behind the scenes. At this point in Colleen's vlogs, Erik is becoming a more prominent figure and fans are noticing. When Josh adopted the dog, everyone called out how Colleen never bonded with it and was more distracted by her time in Canada. They eventually announce their divorce and the timeline with Erik carries on as Olivia describes. Although Colleen has never admitted to anything, Josh was adamant in his divorce video that he did not ask for it and his life spiraled into alcoholism, depression, and many other personal concerns as a result of the divorce. While Colleen may not have physically cheated, she more than likely emotionally cheated and gaslighted Josh when he expressed how uncomfortable her relationship with Erik was, only to end up with him and compromise to put her career on hold to begin their family in the home she originally bought with Josh for the same future plans. Josh is not perfect, but to spend nearly a decade with someone you're head over heels for, someone you think wants you the same way and wants that life with you, only for them to throw it all away after a year is insane. If she noticed red flags or had issues, she should have brought them to light sooner or never married him in the first place. Her failed marriage is on her for not communicating responsibly.
These kinds of relationships are super common in people with narcissism. Narcissists see their own relationships as “fairytales”, so when the reality sets in that marriage actually entails a lot of lows along with the highs, they immediately sever any emotional ties with their partner. However, they rarely break up with them at that point in the relationship. Instead, they do everything in their power to manipulate their partner in to believing that they (the partner) are the one that wants a divorce, that they are the issue, and that ultimately they are the ones that were unable to make it work out. So, thanks for leaving this comment because it was very insightful in to just how likely it is that Colleen has Narcisstic Personality Disorder.
I think when you guys say Shane didn’t have much direct inappropriate contact with fans, it’s incorrect. I remember seeing Omegle clips with Shane asking minors to twerk, and inappropriate group messages as well. He might not have been as active with his fans as Colleen, but there was definitely more to base his cancellation off of than his content. Both had nasty shit behind the scenes going on with young fans.
They're the exact same people, both evil, sick, vile weirdos. From the extremely inappropriate interactions with children, to the disgusting abuse of cats/animals. They're both the same, gross & sick weirdos!
yeah i was literally thinking about how similar her actions were to shane dawsons. i even remember shane asking fans to take picture of them “pretending to give birth” or whatever… makes u think so all these groomer youtubers have their own group chats??!! a playbook?!?!?
you never really recognize how young you were until you get older and you actually see what a 14-year-old looks like ngl I kind of teared up when Adam was looking at the pictures of him as a kid… it’s a hard realization to make and I can’t imagine having to deal with that in front of the Internet.
I was an adult when my sister was 13/14. I could NEVER imagine talking to her friends in a group chat, let alone trying to befriend them in general. The maturity and life experience difference was HUGE. Multiply that with fame and power dynamics and it becomes extremely gross, uncomfortable, and straight up wrong. I used to be a huge fan of Colleen, I got her book and merch, and this is just BLEEH
I was waiting for an Olivia PowerPoint on this, she’s so thorough! Also let’s all take a moment to appreciate how cute she looks, I’m loving this blush under the eyes
@@maddyc2412 And the way her fans treated him...literally sent him into an alcoholic slump for years!!! And people were calling Josh the problematic one. Unbelievable
I love Olivia’s segments and she’s been a much needed addition to the crew, but what really makes these PowerPoints so good is Ethan asking his questions wanting every detail about everything in and not in the PowerPoint - Olivia’s ability to answer almost every one in full detail without having it planned was pretty iconic tho
I don’t think she’s a p3do, i think she just loves to see the power he has on her fans and how easy she can manipulate them. She probably loves to see them being willing to do anything to get her attention. The fact that she has absolutely no remors is so scary. And Olivia didn’t even talk about the animal abuse which is another extremly disturbing thing. Not only the dog story but also the way she treats her cats in her miranda video. I have a cat and i would NEVER interract with him the way she does with them. It’s like she just doesn’t care about living beings, she just uses them and doesn’t care about how they feel. She’s a fking sociopath. The only person she feel empathy towards is herself, as you can see in her vlog videos. Where she cries. A lot. But only because how hard things are for her. This womans seriously sick…
Yeah the dog thing made me so sad. Everything she’s done and her reaction to it (like her laughing at the dog story or wanting to monetize off of p3d0s) truly does show her character. She’s a disgusting, horrible person.
I don’t see anyone using that work for her really. Groomer is 100% applicable. If anything she and Kory normalized pedophilic behavior for these kids so if that came up for real in their lives they’d be so confused and probably dissuade them more from seeking help. It’s just ick all round.
Olivia‘s presentation style together with Ethan‘s questions and comments are just what I needed to not get lost in the whole drama mess with so many people, most of them I never heard of and with so many similar sounding names.
Shallow point but Olivia’s handwriting was/is beautiful. In retrospect, I’m so glad she had a disappointing meet and greet, rather than getting trapped into the “exclusive group” of dominance, manipulation and abuse. I’m so sorry for every person that went through that in whatever form.
I might be hypocritical because I definitely have biases with celebrities I like, but props to Olivia who was a mega fan of miranda for years who decided to make such an indepth info powerpoint basically ruining mirandas career exposing her because it was the right thing to do, bravo Olivia 👏 we need more like her
I feel like this was glossed over a little bit: Colleen admitted that her Miranda character was based on a DISABLED family member of hers. This offensive, hurtful and ableist persona had free range over the internet for years. Instilling internalised ableism into her young fans. When you talk about how Colleen is a groomer, cheater and racist, don’t forget to add ableist to the disgusting mix.
It’s like she takes pleasure in having power over kids and humilliating them at times (tho she does that with adults too behind their backs apparently, I imagine she gets more blind support/emotional damage from her younger audience), while the other sibling wants sxual gratification or something akin to it. Considering all the family is ok with exploiting min*rs, it worries me that they went through something awful but it does not justify/condone spreading it like a pest. It’s horrifying.
it's really crazy and blows my mind that this 3 year drama snowballed from a single joke tweet about coming out. Like, if adam decided to not click post and keep it in drafts, none of this would've ever happened. We are certainly living in a timeline
Orrrrr if Colleen (the adult in this situation) had not provided her Twitter password to a LITERAL CHILD. That would have kept it from happening, also.
@@bursty247 yeah or if she hasn’t groomed him in a first place, but i like to believe everything happens for a reason, he will heal and live a good life
Olivia if you are reading this, you should go and make your own channel girl- you deserve all the profit and glory for yourself because I’m telling you I have never in my life ever watched h3h3 or Ethan or whatever until you started making these types of videos and everytime I wish it was just you in your own video presenting all your info
I'm def too old for her main demographic, but I never liked her. I always thought Miranda Sings was a rip off of the Courtney character from the Amanda Show
I’m still trying to understand why what Shane “did” was so horrific… he literally ONLY made terrible, “edgy” shock jock style jokes and skits 10+ years ago. Just like iDubbbz, just like James Gunn, and frankly just like Ethan. James Gunn in particular did p3do jokes *constantly*. Shane apologized like 7 times over the years and showed change through his actions by not doing that stuff anymore. Why do all those other people get “passes” but Shane is considered some irredeemable creep? Frankly it feels a bit homophobic to me, and I’m not even kidding. Especially with all the “groomer” bullsh*t going around. Shane never had any accusations of wrongdoing, he never had creepy leaked DMs, he wasn’t found to have inappropriate relationships with fans… nothing like that. I’m surprised Ethan of all people jumped on the cancelation bandwagon for someone whose only sin was literally just awful jokes. Ethan showed grace to iDubbbz and allowed him to move beyond his past behavior, and iDubbbz actually used slurs like f*cking crazy for years, which Shane certainly never did. Make it make sense.
@@cradio52as far as i know, iDubbz never let a 19yo tana mongeau piss on his chest and then post the footage on youtube, so until that happens i’m still thinking shane takes the L on this one.
I used to be a die hard h3h3 fan and then kind of stopped watching around the time that Ethan ate that pizza very disturbingly, just felt like I grew out of it. But hot dog, this PowerPoint lady and her PowerPoint! Love it, I'm so in. If this is what the show is like now I'm in again
Im from the same place as Adam, and i feel like Coleen underestimated the absolute strength of the Irish 😂 Adam did not back down, and his mum messaging Colleen is such typical strong irish mum behaviour, go her!! Im so proud of Adam for taking on Coleen and winning. So manu victims have spoken up and this has blown up massively. I know some people dont enjoy his content, but hes carving a career for himself and i hope that people go follow and support him, cause this takes serious strength x
I’m probably shouting this into the abyss, but I’m 47 and came into this video completely completely blind only having watched the ukulele video. This is such amazing work… I cannot say that enough. Looking at this is a 47 year old man. Understanding the experience that Ethan is bringing…. And trying to understand the experience of Olivia. My God she did amazing work ….. and about a subject that she was and is so invested in. When you drill deep down into the details of a situation like this, there are so many small moments that are just as insidious as the great big ones. Thank you for bringing this too light. Even an older guy like me can learn a lot.
hey Ethan I stopped watching for a bit but I gotta say, whatever you’re doing health-wise is really paying off you’re really glowing with your weight loss. Great job Ethan, keep it up
How? He looks exactly the same. He looked like this for years now. He has had years to change but this coming winter he will put on another 40 lbs just like every winter.
These Olivia PowerPoint presentations are my FAVORITE thing you guys do. I live for these. I love how interesting it is and how simultaneously unimportant
I think all that was missing for me from the PowerPoint was the shit she did on stage. Embarrassing kids in front of a live audience, making them do sexual and gross shit. It's gross
off topic but shane dawson would talk to fans like colleen did. telling them to do very inappropriate things for videos but also in fan group chats. you can find it on youtube i’ve seen creators talk about it :(( all of this is very sad.
@@po3alilyI can’t be bothered to find the videos myself, but I swear there is video proof of it- I remember a clip of him and his mom encouraging a young girl to “twerk” on Omegle
Ok seeing those messages about her ex make it make more sense. He was heartbroken when she cheated on him and i saw so many people hating on him. This is why, she literally told them too
Olivia is so great with her PowerPoints! Love this segment! She is so funny and informative but also brings a special perspective to this situation which is very needed!
She was torturing the dog and the dog bit her to save its own life. Taking everything we have learned, into consideration, this girl is a psychopath. Why did she even tell the story? Because she still hasn't learned to fake normal emotions, which makes her a stupid psychopath.
When she was in her prime (mid 2010s) I was 13-15yrsold (I’m not sure of the years but u get it) I never really liked watching her bc I was picky with my yt vids and found (still find) her annoying, both in her Miranda character and as herself, even though I was in her main demographic 😅. I’m glad I never watched her bc this whole thing is insane. The emotional rollercoaster this drama brought down on her fans and past fans is crazy lol
I do think there was a little more in her adressing everything video that mattered. The way she lied about approving the Meghan Trainer tweets and "brought her son into his drama" as an excuse of not "reviewing the tweets close enough" also is what made people think Adam was lying and out to get her.
She, a grown ass adult, knew what she was doing. She has clear narcissistic traits - trying to blackmail a child, cheating and lying to those close to her, etc etc. She is not just stunted or ignorant. This shit is all calculated its so obvious. Lets call it like it is. Grooming children has serious repercussions. I am a victim myself and I cannot put into words how damaging it is. You never get over that kind of pain being groomed in your developmental years. In my opinion she is a pedo. Many pedos feel like they never grew up thus keep the attraction of other children (bc they see themselves as still a teen/child themselves). If she is 'stunted' on top of other things she can still be a pedo. This is my opinion. No other excuse to groom a child beyond the adult enjoying it.
shane was actually kissing multiple young girls at meet and greets. not saying this colleen stuff isn’t bad, but she was actually PHYSICALLY touching these underage people
she did physically touch children, just not sexually!! at her shows, she would put cheese balls in her pants and have children reach in to the bucket IN HER PANTS BRO. She also spread Becky’s legs on stage when she was in a romper. I know shane is a nasty POS but Colleen is just as bad imo :/
I don’t think it’s a case of colleen being sheltered sadly. She has been making content like this for 16ish years, she has been to the vidcons, the playlists, meet&greets etc. And knows EXACTLY who her audience is. The people buying her tickets, watching her shows, clicking on her videos are predominantly CHILDREN! she’s making money from them by playing into the parasocial relationship. They defend her against anyone who disagrees with her and she offers them an idea of ‘friendship’ in return. Its hard to believe that anyone who has been face to face with the children that adore them for over 10 years truly wishes to befriend them bc of being ‘sheltered’.
Yeah when I think of it from another point of view, I’m 24 and my niece is 13, she has a group chat with a bunch of her friends and sometimes she’ll show me the things they talk about I can not IMAGINE being involved and engaging in a group chat with them , like what on earth do adults have in common with kids that age? Why is Colleen acting like she’s their age? 😭😭😭
Olivia is so knowledgeable- I really like how she presented all the info she did a really great job. would be cool to see her do more content like this in the future hopefully!
It is easily worse than Shane simply coz Shane did not make an ukelele song as his apology video. I d say Shane and Logan has their own category of problematic called - I will do a ton of f*cked up stuff for money, coz I dont have social awareness of what is right or wrong. Coleen is the level of Onision problematic - they didnt do this stuff coz it got them clicks or money, they did it coz they wanted to. They wanted to build an inapproporate relationships with kids and that is insanely scary.
Even when I was 18, I stopped associating with younger kids in the sense of creating a close relationship…soo the fact she did this is so crazy and sending porn to kids?! Ew!
I'm coming up on my 18th birthday and even though I definitely don't feel like an adult, talking to a 14yo about their favorite sex position is absolutely vile and bizarre. there is nothing appropriate for her to gain from being friends with young teens in her THIRTIES ??? like
I think the time stamping of children is probably more sinister but yeah someone should look into this but its just sick fucks being sick fucks and taking advantage of people who know less than.
Colleen is an amalgamation of personality disorders including Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic, and Antisocial. Something in her life didn’t go right and it bent her sideways. Maybe it’s the same thing that afflicts her siblings. But her ability to make judgment and understand reality and consequences is severely compromised. The fact that she has 3 children is incredibly worrying and concerning.
I had adored and loved colleen since i was 8 and i’ve been a fan of hers for 8 1/2 years just up until like 3-4 months ago. I did stop watching her because she nonstop posted videos crying all the time and being very mood swingy and i felt like she was off so i stopped watching because she kept being weird and i was kind of getting worried, now seeing all this stuff coming out about her it all really does add up and i cannot believe i’ve watched her for this long and haven’t realized all this absolutely mind blowing. I truly appreciate you all for posting this video with valid receipts and confirming how messed up colleen and her group surrounding her truly is so Thankyou.
Shane and Colleen arent the same. Shane got intouble for making inappropriate/controversial comedy, he hasn't been canceled like Colleen BECAUSE other comedians at the time did the same jokes, so he got out of it because of the larger crowd that he was apart of defended him and themselves because they also started to get hate. Colleen was targeting children specifically and was keeping in constant contact with minors and also using them to work for her and take blame, so no, they're not the same.
which comedians did the hilarious "demonstrate masturbation to my 12yo niece" joke? I think I maybe missed that part of history, lol. or the famous "hump my dog" joke. what about the "ask my child fans for their best orgasm face" routine?
@@humanname99 he didn't message children to be sexual with anyone, he didn't continually try to manipulate CHILDREN and use them in his shows sexually to this day, I never said he didn't have horrible jokes, that's literally my message, grown ass men like him who made horrible jokes defended him so he wasn't canceled, that's literally my whole comment, before you start to attack someone try knowing how to process information properly. If I need to make this clear, IM NOT OF FAN OF EITHER. make you feel better? Do you feel seen? You're Welcome.
I mean, the way you’ve phrased it makes it sound like all he did was make terrible jokes, but those terrible “jokes” did target children alongside other marginalised people + animals, and I swear he would interact with fans in a creepy way, even if it wasn’t as consistent as being in a groupchat with them. Group calls? I’m pretty sure those happened, but I might be wrong. So, they’re not the same, but I would say it’s definitely comparable. I hope this doesn’t come across as attacking you, I’m just adding to the thread.
I remember watching Colleen speak about how the ads shouldn't have been disabled on children's content 'because it is just making it easier for the pdfiles to watch the children where as before they had to sit through an ad' it didn't make sense because that group will wait through an ad. Who turning off the ads are to discourage are the garbage parents who cater to the creeps in a subtle and unsubtle ways with their children sometimes to make money off their children's exploitation. She was going to the family channel route and was probably just mad she might not be able to profit. I think there was a time where family channels were in question if they could be counted as children's content.
this was captivating and I’ve not heard of any of these people until the last 48 hours…. I cannot believe this story is incomplete- i was so DISAPPOINTED when I realized they filmed this BEFORE the ukulele video fiasco.
1:08:38 no, this was all a form of grooming. With Colleen and with that weird guy friend of hers. Idk if she wanted to *uck kids necessarily but it was definitely a power thing and almost held and led like a cult leader. She knew she could use this heavy influence she had over children in some kind of cult like way so she rounded up those minors that she had and would test to see how far they would go with things. I think to kind of gain trust and hence more control over them so she could have her own little “friends” grow up and become adults and she’d have them under her thumb. It was purely control. Now the seggsual stuff.. THAT is genuinely disturbing. There’s far more methods she could have went to to see how far they would go as a big influencer abusing her fan base.. all bad. Plus I bet she’s shitting bricks right now bc h3h3 is talking about it. Everyone’s gunna know now. They’re great at bringing more news to people that don’t follow this stuff, including myself.
I was a 14 year old who had 18-35 year olds tryna get in my pants, being sexual with me, i thought it made me mature and cool, but that was just the manipulation from the adults. The fact so many people blamed sweet Adam is so gross. I was 16 when a college boy was spreading my nudes without my consent. I got berated so bad, was called a disgusting whore, even had peoples moms telling me to stay away from their sons, sooo many rumours about my sexual health and saying I was pregnant, yet not once did anybody blame the adults spreading CP, not even my parents. I understand how it is to be blamed for shit you innocently did as a teen or didn't fully understand, you thought was cool, it hurts so much when you had nothing but good intentions and everyone was blaming you the child, instead of the adults who should have known better and were the ones doing actual stuff wrong. Even as a 21 year old now seeing 18 year olds at bars and having them hit on me im like ew you're a childddd.
I got confused about why at the end Trent was being accused of paedophilia. Did I miss something. Or did they mean Kory? Does anyone have the time stamp for Trents situation?
There’s a whole twitter thread on Trent. It’s really bad. He basically was really creepy with a 13 year old fan saying he can’t wait for her to turn 18 and asking her to come live with him and all these other s*xual innuendos. He’s clearly got mental delays but still super weird that he got away with it.
Overall this was a very good summary of the situation. There's just one thing I disagree with: This has absolutely happened before and it was Onision. Arguably that one was a lot worse.... and in some ways it makes me feel better that everyone had just collectively repressed that.
I’m so glad I was poor asf as a kid! I never knew who any of these weirdos were bc I didn’t have access to the internet. How the hell someone as painfully unfunny as Colleen was at the top of RUclips is an indictment on our society
it always makes me so scared when people who behave this way around and towards children, have children of their own. colleen already has like 3 or 4, and wants more - and her brother & sister-in-law (the one also in that creepy group chat) have like 7 or 8. i fear for them so much, the backlash they could (& maybe do) face at school/in-public must be insane.
I felt weird asking my 16 year old coworker for a tampon at 20yrs old. I don’t know how a woman in her 30’s would talk about sex and other stuff with minors
I'm also just realizing Adam is Adam MacIntyre who is the same Adam that Colleen tried to silence. Im so happy things turned out alright for this lil truth-telling legend!!
I love how supportive and engaged Ethan is during these PowerPoint segments. Olivia obviously puts a lot of hard work into them and he never just sits and acts uninterested.
this!! you can see how much hes interested in what she's put together with every powerpoint
I think her powerpoint segments are the most entertaining parts of the show. I hope she takes a more prominent role with this because it’s seems like the whole crew + fans enjoy it
Yes!! I love how interested he is- he loves it and it makes the whole vibe fun
it's cute how much he loves these and appreciates olivia!! she deserves it
this is so real. its the total opposite of when trisha hated on the advice segment from the crew during frenemies
Some people not understanding how gross this is so bizarre to me. As a 25 year old, when I look at my cousin who is 14 she is a BABY. At 25, I would NEVER speak to any kids that age like they were my best friend. They’re children…. I can’t even fathom being 30+ and doing that. Plus, she did MUCH MUCH more, but even at the minimum just befriending kids was so gross.
Literally THIS. I am 33 yrs old and my youngest friend is 22yrs old through the K-Pop community, that's a huge age gap in itself. We (both cis woman) have been to kpop concerts together and chat about music etc. But I cannot fathom ever ever ever in my life befriending someone 18, 16 or 14yrs old. WTF? Let alone the perverted sh** Colleen and her 30+ yr old friends and family were saying and doing ?? This is so wrong on so many levels and they all knew what they were doing was f**ked up.
@@DemelzasDelightsyou sound like a pedophile trying to defend themselves🥴
I’m 21 and I have a 13 year old sister. I would be fucking livid to the core if I found out a 30 year old was talking to her this way.
I think she was extremely sheltered her entire life, was homeschooled then went to a private christian college. So she never learned how to behave appropriately and that’s why she makes such immature gross jokes and says disgusting things to kids in group chats. She only started living in the real world once she graduated college so mentally and emotionally she’s probably like 19 or 20. Definitely not an excuse but an explanation. It also doesn’t seem like she has many real friends her own age
Exactly. I’m 27 and my little sister is 15. No way would I talk to her like this. It is bizarre to even think about it.
You shouldn’t be sending underwear to a minor. That was her idea. That should never cross your mind. You’re an adult. You set the boundaries
And she even had the thought of oh his mom will be concerned and still did it ??? Nah
I agree. She shouldn’t have even ever taken them out of the box.
Right?? Also why was she even showing off and having her friend wear lingerie on her channel where she knows the majority of her viewers are children? That show have been the first step in the thought process. Yet she took it fifty steps further and actually went and mailed that shit to a kid. Disgusting and weird.
It made me literally cry seeing the photos of little Adam with Colleen, I’m 33 and not even a mother myself and my heart broke in half seeing him cry and looking at those photos of him as a pure beautiful happy star struck boy with her. Like I wanted to lunge through the screen and give this child a hug.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lifeasario1499weird old woman like you mocking a situation like this. Someone should look into your twisted mentality
U cry over this shit 😂
Absolutely, i think his reaction plucks a string in all of us because we've looked at old photos of ourselves and cried. It mightve been from a good time, a bad time, or good moments gone sour, but Adams reactions are nothing but relatable. Colleens, however, point to the fact that she had something happen to her as a child and she hasnt taken the proper steps to mature or heal
The thing that is most abundantly clear to me is that Colleen is so so emotionally immature… Like.. something is not clicking in her brain. As a 30 something yr old woman, she really thought she could be besties with 13-14 year olds fans… I genuinely think there are some mental issues going on there
Well people make excuses for Michael Jackson and he actually might have been emotionally immature like you say or he could have been a predator...
@@0912sooli I think we can hold a space to wonder why someone would do something without condoning the action. What Colleen did was wrong.
@@0912sooliThere is a massive difference between an excuse and an explanation. Finding or speculating possible explanations for someone’s behavior is perfectly fine.
@ville__don't you have homework to do or something?? go back to school, kiddo. seriously, when you're older you'll realize how wrong you are.
I could not care less about Adam or Colleen, but from an outside perspective it's clear to *any* sane adult that this woman is a weirdo at the very least, and that her actions were indisputably wrong.
@ville__adam was a kid bro, a kid in that position would do anything to be besties with a youtuber they look up to. dont blame the victim.
Poor Adam 💔 imagine your idol ghosting you after blaming you for the backlash on something THEY approved, and then the entire internet berating you and calling you a liar, all as a child. He’s a tough cookie and I’m glad he’s being vindicated. Massive props to Olivia for this break down, she made a convoluted situation so much easier to understand. She’s awesome!
Yes I agree, he was only 17 years old and she was too old to be acting that way towards him, he was a kid.
How do we know she approved of it and she’s allowed not to want him on her platform anymore
@@karinababy6557 it's been proven, adam has provided screenshots of colleen approving the tweet
@bennyboi9261 ohhh kk yah
I don’t feel bad for him lol he’s monetizing the fuck out of this hahaha 😂😂
People forget that Shane had a group on dailybooth where he would ask his underage fans to send him pictures of their "giving birth pose" or "sucking ***" face" ........
Or his livestreams he used to do with his fans or interacting with them on Omegele, asking that one girl to twerk.
And he exchanged gum with underage fans and kissed them on the lips.
Let's not downplay what Shane did pls. It wasn't just his youtube content.
Send pic of you giving birth
YIKES!!!!
Many people are bringing up the transgressions of other Creators. I wish they wouldn't- It just serves to normalize Colleen's actions and what she did is NOT normal.
There are conversations to be had about Trisha, Shane and others but this, right now, should be focused on Colleen and not diluted in a way that makes it seem like she's just one in a crowd...
@@athanksgivingbaby570 I don't think it is normalising anything by bringing up people like Shane- especially when the people bringing it up are saying how sick and twisted it is. I think it shows that there's a repeating problem of creators using their platform to abuse and manipulate minors.
Looking back on everything at me watching Shane as a teenager, it all feels weird to think I normalized all the things he did cuz I thought he was funny. But then one day I saw him laughing at his friend choking on baking soda and vinegar on camera and I started to re-evaluate a lot of things. His content just went incredibly haywire. And I couldn’t watch him anymore.
I tell you what boy. When they cover some tea they fucking COVER SOME TEA! OLIV, this is the BEST PowerPoint to date. You did incredible compilation of this.
Hahaha what are you even talking about?
@@ShadowT23 red hair
@@beegalvyy ooh okay 👍🏾
Sooooo true
@ville__he was literally a child what are you talking about-
The reason Kodee got cancelled was because everyone saw thru what she was doing. She was fully on board with trying to ruin Adam’s life with agreeing to conspire with Colleen about trying to frame him and then she only comes to defend him when she personally got burned. She didn’t care at all about redeeming Adam she just used him and his situation to paint Colleen in a negative light.
I genuinely don’t understand how ethan couldn’t see that.
@@Juju-nr7cbI think Ethan thought she was also a younger fan that was being manipulated that's why at the end he was asking exactly how old Kodee is. I also thought this was another obsessed fan girl even if she was "of age" a 18 or 19 year old teen cam still be influenced by a person they idolize 😢
@@nope.thankiesit was made clear MULTIPLE times how old she is.
@@allisoncastle she kept saying "of age" which could mean anything and seemed like Olivia wasn't too informed on Kodee's situation from the start
@@nope.thankiesabout 5 mins after that they clarify she was 30…
Honestly huge props to Olivia for sharing all of this. Seeing the drama through the POV of someone who was herself a huge fan makes the reality of these interactions much clearer, and it highlights how widespread some of these issues obviously are. Listening to her talk about her parasocial relationship was Colleen was interesting, and I'm currently thinking about where exactly the boundaries "should" be.
-I see an argument for keeping interactions between fans and content creators as disappointingly one-directional and mediated as possible, given the obvious and serious potential for abuse.
-On the other hand, the entire premise of the medium is the sense of intimacy and connection, and I can imagine that there's a lot of benefit there.
If Colleen or her bestie were therapists or teachers, it would be immediately clear that they were behaving inappropriately - no reasonable person would listen to a teacher's explanation for sending their panties home in a kid's backpack or texting them details about their divorce, but I can at least understand that in ten years of interacting with a group of fans, as a comedian and in this grey area between friend and authority figure, people can make some poor decisions in the moment and later regret them. Maybe the period stuff was meant to be a bit, maybe it's some personal stuff she's into. Straight up asking a group chat of teens about virginity and sex positions though, how does a 33-year-old hit send on that text message?
@@spideronawhiteflagperiod
@@spideronawhiteflagwow.. good point.. but like there's 100 z worse shot going on then Colleen. I can't help standing up for this in a sense.. I mean I don't know the extent of it.. but in all reality.. it was probably Cory behind it all.. and she was his puppet. And there's a who lot worse stuff going on than this
That is a weird text to send even if it’s to your friend
After Colleen's divorce from Josh, Rachel posted a vlog of her and Colleen being in Big Bear for skiing. There was a shot of Erik cominng out of the bathroom. I commented "looks like Colleen has a new bae" my phone went off. The video was then taken down and reuploaded without Erik. Yes, Colleen cheated on Josh. Otherwise, Rachel would have not edited the video.
Bro that’s literally so crazy… like even if they weren’t together, why even risk filming him at all when they know how it will look?
I remember that!!
But that's after her divorce, it doesn't mean they were together before she and Josh split (not that I'm defending anything else she's done at all).
@@powderandpaint14 No there's a lot of proof that she in fact had cheated on him
Kode made fanfictions of minors in their group chat. And in a couple of them she wrote about them being raped. She's disgusting. She was speaking to children too.
Ooooohhh my goodness this just keeps getting worse. Can't wait for the court proceedings and documentary 😅
@ville__ the tampon video???
Who is kode? Can u give full name or something so i can search
She did fucking WHAT?!!!!!
i literally hope they have only bad things coming into her life for making inappropriate fanfic out of REAL LIFE MINORS. ugly behaviour!
Olivia is SO good at giving timelines and telling the story with the best details!! Love her PowerPoints and her in general!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👑👑👑
I have followed Colleen for MANY years and I feel like Ethan was spot on with her being sheltered, selfish, and not thinking of her actions. I feel she isn’t aware of what 13 year old talk about and also isn’t aware that talking to minors is weird because she is still childlike. With being very sheltered and religious I don’t think she has learned this but who is her management team and why would they approve of her talking to minors In a group chat?
this is why homeschool kids are always gonna need to be watched with both eyes open. sketchy being part of society and not understanding basic social mores
in some religious communities, it's normalized for an adult to engage and become friends with younger people. When I was one of the Jehovah's witnesses, at age 14 a lot of my friends were between the ages of 18-30. I would be the youngest person invited to parties that consisted of 18-29 year olds. If she was in a religion with that kind of culture, that may be why she's so unaware of how abnormal her interactions with minors were. However, she should've figured it out and been more cautious. There are really no excuses for her behavior.
@@peachy_liliwtf? 😂 I did online public school, but I was also in dance and I was out of the house socializing every single day. I wasn’t introverted at all. And I actually got to learn at my own pace and fully understand what I was being taught. Now I’m a nurse and I’m doing just fine. What a judgy and weird comment.
@@peachy_lilistudies show homeschooled students don’t have worse social skills then other students, imo as a public school student I’d argue they have better social skills due to the stigma of being homeschooled
Or maybe she’s just a straight up pedo??? She knows what she was doing, she’s an adult, she’s attracted to minors, point blank.
This is why we need to teach our kids not to idolize people,because they’re just human and don’t always have your best interest at heart. As parents we need to be aware of who and what they’re doing on the internet.
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Facts because priests rape people alot because of that very reason they are idolized. It’s dangerous to idolize anything.
I never grew up idolizing people, except those in books because you actually know who they are. If I ever liked someone, let's say Robert Pattinson because he played Edward Cullen, my parents would be like, "remember Savannah, he's not the same guy you read in those stories." and then I would realize they were right and stop my obsession. I remember putting posters on the wall of celebrities I didn't care about only because everyone else did and I didn't want to feel like I didn't fit in
I never click as fast as when I see an Olivia PowerPoint lol
Real and sameeeee
Garbage content for sure homies
For fuckin real😂 they’re so informative and entertaining.
@@mels.9516 informative with nonsensical garbage most def my brother man!❤️
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I just can’t imagine being friends with a child as an adult. I’m only 25 and I think 18 year olds might as well be alien creatures to me
I’m 28 and some of my coworkers are like 17-18 and they are BABIES to me
i'm 27 and there's a little 5 year old boy that comes into my job to say hi because he's bored outside and it's just like "hi, how's school? what game are you playing? what are you up to?" and i feel like it's a little friendship but my personal life doesn't have to factor in at all. he doesn't know me to the extent that he asked me if i would be dead yet when he grows up lmao. and i think the same should apply if they're a teen because they do seem really young as you age. you can just give a kid that support without being weird
18 is PRIME meat
@@splitfries69 what the fuck
I had just turned 18 and met a 24 year old and we started dating.. he manipulated me and tried to control me for 6 years... When I turned the age he was when he started dating it finally hit me how WEIRD it was and I ended it. My brain before used to justify all of the weird things he did as "him loving me".. he even had the nerve to tell me that I can't leave because now he's too old to find someone "as pure as I was"... Disgusting!
Love how Dan couldn’t care for most and then for that final third quarter was on the edge of his seat. Olivia knows how to script it
The shadiness of Colleen's divorce from Josh and her relationship with Erik that followed was when I began to look at her different. Joshua and Colleen dated for 7 years - they met when she was in New York and then he moved to California to be with her so she could be closer to her family. They vlogged a lot of their relationship and their wedding was huge. They bought a house together and while Josh was vocal about settling down and starting a family, Colleen was eager to keep working. A year after their marriage, she moves to Canada to begin filming Haters Back Off and Josh stays behind in California. He visited a handful of times and each was as Olivia described Colleen's trip home - awkward, distant, tense - there was clearly a lot happening behind the scenes. At this point in Colleen's vlogs, Erik is becoming a more prominent figure and fans are noticing. When Josh adopted the dog, everyone called out how Colleen never bonded with it and was more distracted by her time in Canada. They eventually announce their divorce and the timeline with Erik carries on as Olivia describes. Although Colleen has never admitted to anything, Josh was adamant in his divorce video that he did not ask for it and his life spiraled into alcoholism, depression, and many other personal concerns as a result of the divorce. While Colleen may not have physically cheated, she more than likely emotionally cheated and gaslighted Josh when he expressed how uncomfortable her relationship with Erik was, only to end up with him and compromise to put her career on hold to begin their family in the home she originally bought with Josh for the same future plans. Josh is not perfect, but to spend nearly a decade with someone you're head over heels for, someone you think wants you the same way and wants that life with you, only for them to throw it all away after a year is insane. If she noticed red flags or had issues, she should have brought them to light sooner or never married him in the first place. Her failed marriage is on her for not communicating responsibly.
These kinds of relationships are super common in people with narcissism. Narcissists see their own relationships as “fairytales”, so when the reality sets in that marriage actually entails a lot of lows along with the highs, they immediately sever any emotional ties with their partner. However, they rarely break up with them at that point in the relationship. Instead, they do everything in their power to manipulate their partner in to believing that they (the partner) are the one that wants a divorce, that they are the issue, and that ultimately they are the ones that were unable to make it work out. So, thanks for leaving this comment because it was very insightful in to just how likely it is that Colleen has Narcisstic Personality Disorder.
I think when you guys say Shane didn’t have much direct inappropriate contact with fans, it’s incorrect. I remember seeing Omegle clips with Shane asking minors to twerk, and inappropriate group messages as well. He might not have been as active with his fans as Colleen, but there was definitely more to base his cancellation off of than his content. Both had nasty shit behind the scenes going on with young fans.
They're the exact same people, both evil, sick, vile weirdos.
From the extremely inappropriate interactions with children, to the disgusting abuse of cats/animals.
They're both the same, gross & sick weirdos!
Not to mention there's video evidence of Shane kissing a minor fan on the lips
Yes!!
yeah i was literally thinking about how similar her actions were to shane dawsons. i even remember shane asking fans to take picture of them “pretending to give birth” or whatever… makes u think so all these groomer youtubers have their own group chats??!! a playbook?!?!?
you never really recognize how young you were until you get older and you actually see what a 14-year-old looks like
ngl I kind of teared up when Adam was looking at the pictures of him as a kid… it’s a hard realization to make and I can’t imagine having to deal with that in front of the Internet.
Me too!! I cried omg
I was an adult when my sister was 13/14. I could NEVER imagine talking to her friends in a group chat, let alone trying to befriend them in general. The maturity and life experience difference was HUGE. Multiply that with fame and power dynamics and it becomes extremely gross, uncomfortable, and straight up wrong. I used to be a huge fan of Colleen, I got her book and merch, and this is just BLEEH
I love how we went from Donna's 10 page notes to Olivia's powerpoint presentation 👏 Keep it up, ladies ❤
I was waiting for an Olivia PowerPoint on this, she’s so thorough! Also let’s all take a moment to appreciate how cute she looks, I’m loving this blush under the eyes
Olivia is so brave for showing us the card she made for her
as someone who has been a fan of h3h3 AND colleen for years (two VERY different worlds) i wouldn’t have imagined colleen being the problematic one 💀💀
Lol
I mean she was problematic years ago. The way she treated Josh after she cheated on him was appalling and that's when I stayed away from her content
Ethan is.... something. but he always seems like a genuine and kind guy even if he is a dick online.
@@maddyc2412 And the way her fans treated him...literally sent him into an alcoholic slump for years!!! And people were calling Josh the problematic one. Unbelievable
@@blooms454 yes it was awful, poor guy, I'm glad he's happy now
I love Olivia’s segments and she’s been a much needed addition to the crew, but what really makes these PowerPoints so good is Ethan asking his questions wanting every detail about everything in and not in the PowerPoint - Olivia’s ability to answer almost every one in full detail without having it planned was pretty iconic tho
I don’t think she’s a p3do, i think she just loves to see the power he has on her fans and how easy she can manipulate them. She probably loves to see them being willing to do anything to get her attention. The fact that she has absolutely no remors is so scary. And Olivia didn’t even talk about the animal abuse which is another extremly disturbing thing. Not only the dog story but also the way she treats her cats in her miranda video. I have a cat and i would NEVER interract with him the way she does with them. It’s like she just doesn’t care about living beings, she just uses them and doesn’t care about how they feel. She’s a fking sociopath. The only person she feel empathy towards is herself, as you can see in her vlog videos. Where she cries. A lot. But only because how hard things are for her. This womans seriously sick…
Yeah the dog thing made me so sad. Everything she’s done and her reaction to it (like her laughing at the dog story or wanting to monetize off of p3d0s) truly does show her character. She’s a disgusting, horrible person.
She must have some weird fetish
I don’t see anyone using that work for her really. Groomer is 100% applicable. If anything she and Kory normalized pedophilic behavior for these kids so if that came up for real in their lives they’d be so confused and probably dissuade them more from seeking help. It’s just ick all round.
I disagree, she's a pedo. She's been sexualizing kids for over a decade, even her own nieces.
Maybe not but her brother definitely is. Dude needs to be locked up.
Olivia‘s presentation style together with Ethan‘s questions and comments are just what I needed to not get lost in the whole drama mess with so many people, most of them I never heard of and with so many similar sounding names.
Shallow point but Olivia’s handwriting was/is beautiful. In retrospect, I’m so glad she had a disappointing meet and greet, rather than getting trapped into the “exclusive group” of dominance, manipulation and abuse. I’m so sorry for every person that went through that in whatever form.
I might be hypocritical because I definitely have biases with celebrities I like, but props to Olivia who was a mega fan of miranda for years who decided to make such an indepth info powerpoint basically ruining mirandas career exposing her because it was the right thing to do, bravo Olivia 👏 we need more like her
I adore Ethan and Olivia’s friendship. It’s so cute. I love how much Ethan hypes her up, too!
I feel like this was glossed over a little bit: Colleen admitted that her Miranda character was based on a DISABLED family member of hers. This offensive, hurtful and ableist persona had free range over the internet for years. Instilling internalised ableism into her young fans. When you talk about how Colleen is a groomer, cheater and racist, don’t forget to add ableist to the disgusting mix.
It’s like she takes pleasure in having power over kids and humilliating them at times (tho she does that with adults too behind their backs apparently, I imagine she gets more blind support/emotional damage from her younger audience), while the other sibling wants sxual gratification or something akin to it. Considering all the family is ok with exploiting min*rs, it worries me that they went through something awful but it does not justify/condone spreading it like a pest. It’s horrifying.
It’s pretty common narc behavior
it's really crazy and blows my mind that this 3 year drama snowballed from a single joke tweet about coming out. Like, if adam decided to not click post and keep it in drafts, none of this would've ever happened. We are certainly living in a timeline
And maybe he would never make his channel and would do some regular job and live completely different life🤯
Orrrrr if Colleen (the adult in this situation) had not provided her Twitter password to a LITERAL CHILD. That would have kept it from happening, also.
@@bursty247 yeah or if she hasn’t groomed him in a first place, but i like to believe everything happens for a reason, he will heal and live a good life
*Timestamps for the video*
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Thanks. Really needed that.
I love Ethan and Olivia's dynamic for the drama segments please never stop doing them as long as they are both so into it! It makes it so fun!
unrelated but Olivia is so fucking pretty her smile is so sweeeeeet
I remember her first show, she was so shy! Absolutely love her growth.
I am such a simp for her she’s so pretty 🫶🏻
Olivia if you are reading this, you should go and make your own channel girl- you deserve all the profit and glory for yourself because I’m telling you I have never in my life ever watched h3h3 or Ethan or whatever until you started making these types of videos and everytime I wish it was just you in your own video presenting all your info
So true! I do love ethan taking it seriously and asking lots of questions too. They really get to the meat of every topic she presents for
"James Charles, who is the moral arbiter of RUclips" had me dyingggg
Olivia is so smart and talented, I love her segments so much!
Edit: her genuinely crying at the wedding video is so sweet and wholesome 😭
I'm def too old for her main demographic, but I never liked her. I always thought Miranda Sings was a rip off of the Courtney character from the Amanda Show
SAME. It was cringe
Thank you for finally covering this. I agree, it’s worse than Shane.
No, you guys are the worst for maintaining the cancel culture.
I’m still trying to understand why what Shane “did” was so horrific… he literally ONLY made terrible, “edgy” shock jock style jokes and skits 10+ years ago. Just like iDubbbz, just like James Gunn, and frankly just like Ethan. James Gunn in particular did p3do jokes *constantly*.
Shane apologized like 7 times over the years and showed change through his actions by not doing that stuff anymore. Why do all those other people get “passes” but Shane is considered some irredeemable creep? Frankly it feels a bit homophobic to me, and I’m not even kidding. Especially with all the “groomer” bullsh*t going around. Shane never had any accusations of wrongdoing, he never had creepy leaked DMs, he wasn’t found to have inappropriate relationships with fans… nothing like that.
I’m surprised Ethan of all people jumped on the cancelation bandwagon for someone whose only sin was literally just awful jokes. Ethan showed grace to iDubbbz and allowed him to move beyond his past behavior, and iDubbbz actually used slurs like f*cking crazy for years, which Shane certainly never did. Make it make sense.
@@cradio52nobody is reading all that bro
@@littlelogan34 I’m sorry you’re illiterate, that sucks
@@cradio52as far as i know, iDubbz never let a 19yo tana mongeau piss on his chest and then post the footage on youtube, so until that happens i’m still thinking shane takes the L on this one.
Kodee ain't no victim. She's just as bad as Colleen
I used to be a die hard h3h3 fan and then kind of stopped watching around the time that Ethan ate that pizza very disturbingly, just felt like I grew out of it.
But hot dog, this PowerPoint lady and her PowerPoint! Love it, I'm so in. If this is what the show is like now I'm in again
I'm sorry but that made me bust out laughing 😂 "the time that Ethan ate that pizza very disturbingly" what a statement 😂 have an awesome day ❤
Lmaooo the fact that I can clearly picture the pizza video is hilarious
Ya Sam
@@xXxakurokuxXx123 I can hear it 😂😅
Which video?😂😂
Im from the same place as Adam, and i feel like Coleen underestimated the absolute strength of the Irish 😂 Adam did not back down, and his mum messaging Colleen is such typical strong irish mum behaviour, go her!!
Im so proud of Adam for taking on Coleen and winning. So manu victims have spoken up and this has blown up massively. I know some people dont enjoy his content, but hes carving a career for himself and i hope that people go follow and support him, cause this takes serious strength x
I’m probably shouting this into the abyss, but I’m 47 and came into this video completely completely blind only having watched the ukulele video.
This is such amazing work… I cannot say that enough. Looking at this is a 47 year old man. Understanding the experience that Ethan is bringing…. And trying to understand the experience of Olivia.
My God she did amazing work ….. and about a subject that she was and is so invested in.
When you drill deep down into the details of a situation like this, there are so many small moments that are just as insidious as the great big ones.
Thank you for bringing this too light. Even an older guy like me can learn a lot.
hey Ethan I stopped watching for a bit but I gotta say, whatever you’re doing health-wise is really paying off you’re really glowing with your weight loss. Great job Ethan, keep it up
How? He looks exactly the same. He looked like this for years now. He has had years to change but this coming winter he will put on another 40 lbs just like every winter.
@@kyle8025does it fucking matter ?
@@kyle8025 You haven't been paying attention/seen his progress pictures. The difference is crazy
Reading this comment as I fight with the treacherous monster of night time McDonald's craving right now
@@kyle8025im laughing at the way you’re so bothered but you’re still here bud. not a good look🤣
These Olivia PowerPoint presentations are my FAVORITE thing you guys do. I live for these.
I love how interesting it is and how simultaneously unimportant
I think all that was missing for me from the PowerPoint was the shit she did on stage. Embarrassing kids in front of a live audience, making them do sexual and gross shit. It's gross
Also sending OF pictures of Trisha Paytas in the group chat apparently.
@katringabrielle4672 yeah that was a little more recent than my comment lmao
I'm so happy that y'all are on vacation you totally deserve it. But I desperately need to know the entire crews opinion on her apology video.
Ethan’s voice is very soothing. And I love all the research Olivia did
Nobody talks about how strange it is that she spells “coming” as “cuming” when she’s posting as Miranda
off topic but shane dawson would talk to fans like colleen did. telling them to do very inappropriate things for videos but also in fan group chats. you can find it on youtube i’ve seen creators talk about it :(( all of this is very sad.
Theres literally no proof of that???
@@po3alilyI can’t be bothered to find the videos myself, but I swear there is video proof of it- I remember a clip of him and his mom encouraging a young girl to “twerk” on Omegle
Grooming does not have to result in sex (SA)!!! Colleen clearly exploited that relationship for her own emotional needs.
I really really enjoy these drama PowerPoints, Olivia is like a portal to a world I’m totally unfamiliar with
You know what would neatly sweep all this under the rug? A certified ukulele apology bop!
Ok seeing those messages about her ex make it make more sense. He was heartbroken when she cheated on him and i saw so many people hating on him. This is why, she literally told them too
I’m so glad Adam is speaking out and getting more support this time around.
“If anyone knows how to treat minors with respect, it’s James Charles” 😂😂😂 Ethan kills me 😂
Olivia is so great with her PowerPoints! Love this segment! She is so funny and informative but also brings a special perspective to this situation which is very needed!
I need a complications of Dan telling Ethan “no” “don’t do that” “not a good idea” 😂
She was torturing the dog and the dog bit her to save its own life. Taking everything we have learned, into consideration, this girl is a psychopath. Why did she even tell the story? Because she still hasn't learned to fake normal emotions, which makes her a stupid psychopath.
facts
Cannot agree more she’s definitely sociopathic
When she was in her prime (mid 2010s) I was 13-15yrsold (I’m not sure of the years but u get it) I never really liked watching her bc I was picky with my yt vids and found (still find) her annoying, both in her Miranda character and as herself, even though I was in her main demographic 😅. I’m glad I never watched her bc this whole thing is insane. The emotional rollercoaster this drama brought down on her fans and past fans is crazy lol
Annoyed this video happened before Ukulele-gate
I do think there was a little more in her adressing everything video that mattered. The way she lied about approving the Meghan Trainer tweets and "brought her son into his drama" as an excuse of not "reviewing the tweets close enough" also is what made people think Adam was lying and out to get her.
She, a grown ass adult, knew what she was doing. She has clear narcissistic traits - trying to blackmail a child, cheating and lying to those close to her, etc etc. She is not just stunted or ignorant. This shit is all calculated its so obvious. Lets call it like it is. Grooming children has serious repercussions. I am a victim myself and I cannot put into words how damaging it is. You never get over that kind of pain being groomed in your developmental years. In my opinion she is a pedo. Many pedos feel like they never grew up thus keep the attraction of other children (bc they see themselves as still a teen/child themselves). If she is 'stunted' on top of other things she can still be a pedo. This is my opinion. No other excuse to groom a child beyond the adult enjoying it.
shane was actually kissing multiple young girls at meet and greets. not saying this colleen stuff isn’t bad, but she was actually PHYSICALLY touching these underage people
she did physically touch children, just not sexually!! at her shows, she would put cheese balls in her pants and have children reach in to the bucket IN HER PANTS BRO. She also spread Becky’s legs on stage when she was in a romper. I know shane is a nasty POS but Colleen is just as bad imo :/
I don’t think it’s a case of colleen being sheltered sadly. She has been making content like this for 16ish years, she has been to the vidcons, the playlists, meet&greets etc. And knows EXACTLY who her audience is. The people buying her tickets, watching her shows, clicking on her videos are predominantly CHILDREN! she’s making money from them by playing into the parasocial relationship. They defend her against anyone who disagrees with her and she offers them an idea of ‘friendship’ in return. Its hard to believe that anyone who has been face to face with the children that adore them for over 10 years truly wishes to befriend them bc of being ‘sheltered’.
I would appreciate all my drama recaps going forward presented in a PowerPoint from Olivia! Great Job!
Yeah when I think of it from another point of view, I’m 24 and my niece is 13, she has a group chat with a bunch of her friends and sometimes she’ll show me the things they talk about I can not IMAGINE being involved and engaging in a group chat with them , like what on earth do adults have in common with kids that age? Why is Colleen acting like she’s their age? 😭😭😭
Y’all should retitle this to captivate people outside H3 audience
Great job covering this Olivia and the crew! I wish Adam and everyone affected to heal from this mess
Olivia is so knowledgeable- I really like how she presented all the info she did a really great job. would be cool to see her do more content like this in the future hopefully!
Olivia's powerpoints and the crew's reactions have become my favorite part of the show lately. keep up the great work, Queen Olivia!
It is easily worse than Shane simply coz Shane did not make an ukelele song as his apology video.
I d say Shane and Logan has their own category of problematic called - I will do a ton of f*cked up stuff for money, coz I dont have social awareness of what is right or wrong.
Coleen is the level of Onision problematic - they didnt do this stuff coz it got them clicks or money, they did it coz they wanted to. They wanted to build an inapproporate relationships with kids and that is insanely scary.
Agree!!!
Even when I was 18, I stopped associating with younger kids in the sense of creating a close relationship…soo the fact she did this is so crazy and sending porn to kids?! Ew!
I'm coming up on my 18th birthday and even though I definitely don't feel like an adult, talking to a 14yo about their favorite sex position is absolutely vile and bizarre. there is nothing appropriate for her to gain from being friends with young teens in her THIRTIES ??? like
So glad to see Ethan’s thinning up, haven’t watched in a year and he looks like a whole new person
Kinda weird that you care
@@DvgteethIt's a goal that Ethan has been working towards for some time. Nothing wrong with taking note of this, it's encouraging
thank you guys for covering this ❤❤
We need a licensed psychologist to cover this whole colleen shit because I swear there is something more sinister
I think the time stamping of children is probably more sinister but yeah someone should look into this but its just sick fucks being sick fucks and taking advantage of people who know less than.
Colleen is an amalgamation of personality disorders including Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic, and Antisocial. Something in her life didn’t go right and it bent her sideways. Maybe it’s the same thing that afflicts her siblings. But her ability to make judgment and understand reality and consequences is severely compromised. The fact that she has 3 children is incredibly worrying and concerning.
God I can’t wait to see Ethan talk about the ukulele apology
Why does Ethan remind me of my grandpa when I try to explain drama to him!!! 😂😂😂 he’s all over the place, confused half the time! Lmao bro keep up!! 😂
Colleen fans in the comments bashing Olivia and H3 in 3....2.....1
Olivia's PowerPoints is fast becoming my favourite segment
im so proud of ethan for his weight loss ! there you go kinggg
I had adored and loved colleen since i was 8 and i’ve been a fan of hers for 8 1/2 years just up until like 3-4 months ago. I did stop watching her because she nonstop posted videos crying all the time and being very mood swingy and i felt like she was off so i stopped watching because she kept being weird and i was kind of getting worried, now seeing all this stuff coming out about her it all really does add up and i cannot believe i’ve watched her for this long and haven’t realized all this absolutely mind blowing. I truly appreciate you all for posting this video with valid receipts and confirming how messed up colleen and her group surrounding her truly is so Thankyou.
Shane and Colleen arent the same. Shane got intouble for making inappropriate/controversial comedy, he hasn't been canceled like Colleen BECAUSE other comedians at the time did the same jokes, so he got out of it because of the larger crowd that he was apart of defended him and themselves because they also started to get hate.
Colleen was targeting children specifically and was keeping in constant contact with minors and also using them to work for her and take blame, so no, they're not the same.
which comedians did the hilarious "demonstrate masturbation to my 12yo niece" joke? I think I maybe missed that part of history, lol. or the famous "hump my dog" joke. what about the "ask my child fans for their best orgasm face" routine?
@@humanname99 he didn't message children to be sexual with anyone, he didn't continually try to manipulate CHILDREN and use them in his shows sexually to this day, I never said he didn't have horrible jokes, that's literally my message, grown ass men like him who made horrible jokes defended him so he wasn't canceled, that's literally my whole comment, before you start to attack someone try knowing how to process information properly. If I need to make this clear, IM NOT OF FAN OF EITHER. make you feel better? Do you feel seen? You're Welcome.
@@Zeus_the_wizard kissing a 12yo fan open mouthed is not a joke bro
@@humanname99 WHAT DID I JUST SAY?? LEARN TO READ MAN. that's all I gotta say 😂 👏
I mean, the way you’ve phrased it makes it sound like all he did was make terrible jokes, but those terrible “jokes” did target children alongside other marginalised people + animals, and I swear he would interact with fans in a creepy way, even if it wasn’t as consistent as being in a groupchat with them. Group calls? I’m pretty sure those happened, but I might be wrong. So, they’re not the same, but I would say it’s definitely comparable.
I hope this doesn’t come across as attacking you, I’m just adding to the thread.
I remember watching Colleen speak about how the ads shouldn't have been disabled on children's content 'because it is just making it easier for the pdfiles to watch the children where as before they had to sit through an ad' it didn't make sense because that group will wait through an ad. Who turning off the ads are to discourage are the garbage parents who cater to the creeps in a subtle and unsubtle ways with their children sometimes to make money off their children's exploitation.
She was going to the family channel route and was probably just mad she might not be able to profit. I think there was a time where family channels were in question if they could be counted as children's content.
I think RUclips should just ban all family content and videos cantered around children entirely.
this was captivating and I’ve not heard of any of these people until the last 48 hours….
I cannot believe this story is incomplete- i was so DISAPPOINTED when I realized they filmed this BEFORE the ukulele video fiasco.
1:08:38 no, this was all a form of grooming. With Colleen and with that weird guy friend of hers. Idk if she wanted to *uck kids necessarily but it was definitely a power thing and almost held and led like a cult leader. She knew she could use this heavy influence she had over children in some kind of cult like way so she rounded up those minors that she had and would test to see how far they would go with things. I think to kind of gain trust and hence more control over them so she could have her own little “friends” grow up and become adults and she’d have them under her thumb. It was purely control. Now the seggsual stuff.. THAT is genuinely disturbing. There’s far more methods she could have went to to see how far they would go as a big influencer abusing her fan base.. all bad. Plus I bet she’s shitting bricks right now bc h3h3 is talking about it. Everyone’s gunna know now. They’re great at bringing more news to people that don’t follow this stuff, including myself.
I was a 14 year old who had 18-35 year olds tryna get in my pants, being sexual with me, i thought it made me mature and cool, but that was just the manipulation from the adults. The fact so many people blamed sweet Adam is so gross. I was 16 when a college boy was spreading my nudes without my consent. I got berated so bad, was called a disgusting whore, even had peoples moms telling me to stay away from their sons, sooo many rumours about my sexual health and saying I was pregnant, yet not once did anybody blame the adults spreading CP, not even my parents. I understand how it is to be blamed for shit you innocently did as a teen or didn't fully understand, you thought was cool, it hurts so much when you had nothing but good intentions and everyone was blaming you the child, instead of the adults who should have known better and were the ones doing actual stuff wrong. Even as a 21 year old now seeing 18 year olds at bars and having them hit on me im like ew you're a childddd.
i’m so sorry that happened to you :(
:-(
I got confused about why at the end Trent was being accused of paedophilia. Did I miss something. Or did they mean Kory? Does anyone have the time stamp for Trents situation?
There’s a whole twitter thread on Trent. It’s really bad. He basically was really creepy with a 13 year old fan saying he can’t wait for her to turn 18 and asking her to come live with him and all these other s*xual innuendos. He’s clearly got mental delays but still super weird that he got away with it.
Overall this was a very good summary of the situation.
There's just one thing I disagree with:
This has absolutely happened before and it was Onision. Arguably that one was a lot worse.... and in some ways it makes me feel better that everyone had just collectively repressed that.
The look on Adam's face breaks my fucking heart. I hope you're finding your power now.
The fact that a majority of us grew up on Miranda sings content and now we’re all adults and see how we were all manipulated.
I’m so glad I was poor asf as a kid!
I never knew who any of these weirdos were bc I didn’t have access to the internet.
How the hell someone as painfully unfunny as Colleen was at the top of RUclips is an indictment on our society
it always makes me so scared when people who behave this way around and towards children, have children of their own. colleen already has like 3 or 4, and wants more - and her brother & sister-in-law (the one also in that creepy group chat) have like 7 or 8. i fear for them so much, the backlash they could (& maybe do) face at school/in-public must be insane.
She has three and doesn’t not want more kida
Okay but can we talk about how how far Ethen have come in his weight loss journey? 😢❤ We're so proud of you
I felt weird asking my 16 year old coworker for a tampon at 20yrs old. I don’t know how a woman in her 30’s would talk about sex and other stuff with minors
Ethan saying with emphasis "He begged for the panties for YEARSS?!" Made me laugh way to hard😂
I'm also just realizing Adam is Adam MacIntyre who is the same Adam that Colleen tried to silence.
Im so happy things turned out alright for this lil truth-telling legend!!