Level 2 Home EV Charging | EVERYTHING new EV Drivers need to know from Electric Car Australia Owner
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- Being a new owner of an electric car in Australia can be daunting. There’s not many on the roads so finding other owners to ask questions, have a chat and get honest, independent advice can be a challenge. As EV owners ourselves, that’s why our latest EV video covers all the questions and concerns a new electric vehicle owner might have with regards to dedicated home or destination (level 2) charging.
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Excellent video. Answered lots of questions I had.
Hi Liz, glad it was helpful.
Fossil Gobbler! Hahahaha That's a gold, classic mate!
Great video. Im about to buy my first Ev and this was so informative and in simple language that I could understand.
Hi @dnicholls glad you found it helpful. Cheers.
very helpful video for a fresh EV purchaser. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and the comment, glad it was helpful!
Hi ,another great informative video.we here in the UK have the plug share app,but we also have one called Zap Map which is similar.Ive had my zs ev for a year and eight months now and I have not yet used a rapid charger as I always charge at home.when we get sunny days I charge the car useing the granny charger drawing power from solar panels .I do it that way because my solar set up is only 3.6 kwh so as my car is using some of the solar as is the apliances in the home are getting some of that free energy.I also have a 7kw wall charger for when I need a quicker charge.I do occasionally use some of the free 7kwh chargers when I've gone a fair distance from home like visiting other towns usually at some supermarkets or retail outlets just to give a little top up when making my journey back home.Any way G.day and stay safe.
Hi Graham, thanks for watching and sharing your experience with the MG and solar. Cheers.
Good info for newbies. Thanks for the video.
Appreciate the comment and glad you enjoyed the video.
Very informative easy to follow
Thanks, glad you liked it
That was a great and informative video, thanks. A local Cole’s car park near me in Victoria has a similar setup but has very large power switches on the side, as I haven’t yet purchased a type 2 to type 2 cable I haven’t used them, but they look a little trickier than the one you used.
Thanks for the feedback 😉 They should be very similar to operate, many look more complex than they are. 👍
Good information. Hopefully, there will be more affordable EVs in Australia...... soon.
As long as Scott Morrison doesn't do Ev videos.
I'm with you there!
Thanks for a practical explanation. I’m going to buy an MG ZS soon and this gives me confidence about charging.
Hi Matthew, charging and range anxiety are the 2 most common concerns for non EV drivers. But once you own and use an EV you realise neither are a problem.
Enjoy the transition to healthier & more sustainable transport.
Go the BYD it’s miles ahead of MG in every way
Thanks great video 😀
Glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment.
very useful. Chargefox do have different type of chargers. EV drivers have to be a bit more aware and plan trips.
Great explanatory video. Living out at tenterfield was good to see you visiting in one of your other vids. Sadly the warwick fast charger is currently down. Just got an EV6 GT line AWD which I am loving but a major issue I’ve found it that it won’t talk to the Tesla destination chargers we had installed for our B and B. Even (as suggested on a forum) when the internal settings are set to “legacy” mode. It’s knows it’s plugged in but won’t handshake. Not sure if this is just a Kia issue, wonder if you had heard anything about this? RV Symonds in the U.K. suggests it might be a software issue, but Kia won’t answer any of my questions put to them through the dealers, which is disappointing. So until my EVSE 3 phase portable charger turns up I’m still using the granny chargers. Any thoughts appreciated.
Hi Simon, firstly congrats on the EV6...good choice, very nice piece of EV kit! Secondly, I know of your Farmstay so might drop in for a cuppa next time I am down that way.
Ok back to your question - yes those Tesla charger can be tricky with some other brands. I have had the MG work on some and not others even though they have both had the "legacy" mode selected via dip switches so it can be frustrating. What I have found, and been told by others, if they work they seem to work each time but if you get one which doesn't work it's unlikely it ever will. Maybe try your car on other Tesla chargers in town, Settlers Motel has one I know of but would have to check the "mode" setting.
A 3 phase portable charger is very handy, for home and also when travelling so good to have that handy. One other thing consider joining the Australia Electric Vehicle Association (AEVA). Not sure where the closest branch is to Tenterfield for meeting but they do have online meetings and a wealth of knowledge from other owners and some good discounts at various EV related business's for thing like chargers, leads, etc.
Sorry for the long winded answer. Thanks for watching and the comment. Cheers
Greg.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Thanks for the reply. You are very welcome to come down for a drive, a cuppa, a chat and a charge! As you know our B and B (Donegal Farmstay), drop me an email on that. I have already joined the AEVA for qld and Nsw, and saw that there will be a Brisbane meeting tomorrow with ability to zoom in. I might try the settlers or the old Council Chambers and see if their charger works.
Very helpful video getting into EV’s
I have a question, my local charge station has CCS and ChadeMo. If the CCS plug is either faulty or being used. Is there an adapter to convert ChadeMo plug to CCS and charge the EV?
Hi, thanks for watching and the question. No they are different protocols and not interchangable.
I have found that type of shopping centre charger is rather peculiar.
Did you find the green flap had to be forced open. There is a lock that is normally unlocked when you register on the app. I also found it dropped out quickly - plug into the car so you are ready then do the app and be ready to plug in.
I've used 2 of them at shopping centres - a free one with Chargefox and a paid one with Evie. The connection process was different in each case and in both there were steps missing from the attached instructions. Find your local ones and try them out before you get to desperately need them.
Hi Alan, thanks for the comment. Yes, as with any electronic/software type systems they can differ between hardware/locations and even do different things at different times at the same location. In general though they are usually easy to work out one way or another. Cheers and thanks for watching.
Great informative and especially practical video. BTW - in not just guys, as you keep saying, that are watching your videos. (contrary to popular belief, "guy" doesn't include women.)
Loved the plugshare tips!
Hi Denise, thanks for the comment, glad you liked it. Yes, bad habit I always use 'Guys' so will need to pick up my game. Unfortunately only 1% of my viewers are female. Any other ideas for me to improve this? Cheers
I like this car
On the Plugshare map, what is the difference between the green icons and the orange icons?
Orange are DC Rapid Chargers, Green are level 2 AC Chargers or just AC PowerPoints. Click on the coloured for, then click the location and it will open and provide you the charger details. Enjoy!
Would a 3 phase setup allow 2 EVSE on each side of a double garage to have 7KW/h on each? Else if single phase a both in use 3.5Kw/h?
I'm not a sparky but believe this would be possible with correct wiring and/or setup for EVSEs to balance load. Suggest having a chat to Arran from Regen charging install. Good luck 👍
You don't need to be an electrical engineer... They even don't really know how AC or DC really works... It's really still magic for the science community.
Thanks for watching. 👍
If you plug in to a 22kW DC charger when out and about can the car take that or does it only charge at 7kW on those as well?
Hi Monique, you can plug it into a 22kW AC however you will only charge at 7 as that is the max capacity of the on board charger. If charging using DC, yes you can use 22kW as the MG has max 75kW DC charging. Hope that helps.
@@ElectricCarAustralia gotcha. Thanks 😊
Very informative video, I'm in the process of building a new house, what would you recommend i get installed / prepped to be EV ready?
Hi Chuckles, depends on a few things however as a minimum I would suggest having your sparky run a dedicated 32 amp cable to a point where you park your vehicle and just terminate it in a junction box. This wont cost much at the build stage and gives you flexibility to decide at a later date what type of outlet/charger you want.
Hope that helps. Cheers.
If your standard household supply fuse is less than 100amps I'd suggest you upgrade it. If you have solar and a battery and vehicle to grid becomes a thing, you'll probably need it.
Thanks for the video. Where is the charging station in your video? I am living in Brisbane. Thanks.
Hi Kidult, It's at Coles Rochedale. Check it out on the Plugshare - App or Desktop.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Thanks for the reply. I can see the second place in rochedale. What about the first place in your video?
@@kidulthobby8185 Oh sorry, that one isn't open to the general public so can't disclose. There is a similar one at Oz Diy Electric Vehicles Springwood and they provide complimentary public charging if you wanted to have a look.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Thank you so much for your reply.
Longer term experiences about battery charging for the 2021 MG ZS EV?
I've owned the ZS EV for about six months now and almost always charge at home on a 7kW wallbox scheduled for overnight off-peak power rates. This practice follows the MG recommended 20% to 80% charging recommendation & with a full charge & battery equalization every six weeks or so. It has niggled me however about waiting for that low 20% charge state of around 50km and then having to wait 4 hours to charge up again. A little like 'caught with my pants down' should an emergency arise.
Well that happened last night when I had to rush my wife to a hospital emergency department in the middle of the night, but before the charging scedule took place & with a low battery charge. A bit stressful to say the least. It all worked out fine & we did manage to get there and back, my wife is OK, however, I still really don't like this low battery period and subsequent long charge time.
Does anyone have any experience with longer term ownership and strictly following the charging recommendations (or not) as per above? Supposedly, if we don't, we risk more rapid battery degradiation over time. I'm thinking now to ignore this and to keep the battery topped up more & with more regular home charging but wondered about others' experiences here? Many thanks in advance.
Hi Paul, you sound like your being really diligent with the 80/20 rule but might be misunderstanding the overall intent. Battery degradation will be limited by aiming to keep state of charge (SOC) between 20-80% but that that's only a guideline and doesn't mean you have to run it down to 20% before you charge every time. Based on all the discussions I've had over the years with long term EV owners most people don't worry too much about it. AC home charging is very easy on the battery, it's the rapid DC charging you need to monitor more carefully.
I would worry less about your SOC and just enjoy the experience of driving a vehicle with no tailpipe pollution and much cheaper refueling.
Glad your wife was ok.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Thanks for this, appreciated. One other question if that's OK? What happens if battery balancing is stopped by scheduling or similar? I'd like to try to keep the car topped up, but not balanicing every time - obviously, this takes much longer.
@@profdraper if you mainly charge on AC and not DC rapid chargers the battery won't need much balancing. The ZS will actually come up with a warning prompt on the dash if it needs a balance. I have never got a warning and I don't track my balancing charges, I just get a full balance charge whenever convenient for me.
1 question at the end and some notes for myself. type 1 10amp = 12km per hour of charging, 15amp =18km. charging after work from 7pm to 7am is 12 hours thus giving me 144km. I am using an old ICE. A full tank of 50Litre of gas gives me roughly 300km, which I can use 2 weeks or more so I travel roughly 30km a day. So a single 12 hours charging can last me 4 days from a type one charger. batteries are best left between 30% to 80% charge. My question is, is the tesla type 1 travel charger, or whatever the charger that comes with the EV I bought, comes with a setting that stop charging at 80% or 85% so that I can plug it in every time I get off work and forget about it? if it does, it seems that a type 2 charger, or evse, is pointless to me.
Hi Egas, absolutely fantastic question! You have really thought this out. Short answer is I don't know of any vehicle manufacturer supplied EVSE which has this capability, hence they are called 'Dumb' chargers. The more expensive cars such as Tesla, Polestar etc. have this capability within the vehicles itself, so it's the actual car where you set these limits not the charger or EVSE.
Another consideration is battery chemistries are constantly changing. The Tesla model 3's being delivered into Australia now have a battery which doesn't mind being charged to 100% each time so things are changing.
I'm looking at a portable type 2 EVSE for home and road trip which does have some of this type of functionality. For us a portable unit provides the best of both worlds for around the same price as a fixed home unit. In you case a budget option might be to have an electrician install a timer (with contactors to manage the high current load) on a dedicated 10 or 15 amp supply for your EVSE and set the time to approx 80% battery charge.
Thanks for watching and congrats on considering an EV, you wont be disappointed. Cheers Greg
Hi mate,
Need a suggestion from you, which charger do you suggest for model Y as it is not coming as standard now with the car. Im a NSW resident with no access to home charging. Appreciate any comments. @Electric Car Australia
When you say home charging, do you mean you don't have a carpark or PowerPoint to plug into?
@@ElectricCarAustralia yes. I need to depend on public charges and super chargers.
@@giridharaynampudi5905 in that case it really comes down to balancing cost and convenience. Fastest charging if your sitting around waiting is worth the money to save time.
If your at work, eating or shopping while charging you can look for cheaper options. I hope that helps.
@@ElectricCarAustralia thanks for the suggestion. And to use BYO chargers which type 2 charger should I buy? as I'm not getting any from tesla with the car.
Grab a Type 2 to Type 2 lead 7 mtrs long. This should cover most needs :)
Hello :)
I am building a new house and wanted to prep it to be ready for a future EV. The car would just be used for daily commute, possibly 50-80km at most a day. Should I be asking or telling the builder anything specific to get the garage ready for EV charging? Would it be worth to ask for a 15A powerpoint on its own circuit? Or should I ask for a higher amperage?
Thank you!
Hi Gordon, thanks for watching and congrats on thinking ahead for an EV. Based on your suggested driving a dedicated 15 amp would be a good idea. For future proofing & additional resale value on house you could go 32 amp.
There are other options which I'm happy to go through including pro's and cons and tips if you wanted to set up a short online catchup. Check out my website if you wanted to book. electriccaradviceaustralia.com.au/
@@ElectricCarAustralia Thank you for your response! If we decide to go with the 32 amp outlet, would it charge the Ev directly through a 32amp charger between the car and the outlet? Or would we need to purchase a wall unit?
I will check the survey out thank you :)
@@GordonLazarte Can do either way, just depends on what your needs are and $ you want to spend. Cheers.
MG did not need a light in the charging port it came with a flashlight
Why didn't you mention zappi charger
Hi Bob, thanks for watching. Simple answer is, it's not possible to cover everything available in a single video and yes the Zappi was one of the ones I didn't mention. Cheers
I looked into zappi for our home, but as our garage is 80m away from the meter box, their particular system for monitoring the CT clamps wasn’t going to work. I’m looking forward to Fronius bringing out their Smart charger later this year that will talk directly to their solar panel inverter through our wifi system.
I like the video, the explanation is really clear comprehensive and easy to understand and no criticism of the messenger, his knowledge and obvious skill.
I want a new electric vehicle, I really do but at the risk of being a fossil gobbler neophobe, does the exercise of "topping up" really need to involve another App? "Weird Vooddo Stuff" is common with Apps in my experience. I'm betting the inclusion of it will make someone's life richer and easier, but very likely not the customers.
A simple life is a good life. So why can't drivers exchange batteries like happens to most power tools now after centuries of system evolution and refinement? Too hard basket.
Thanks for the comment and in general I agree. The good news is most people (Inc me) do 80-90% of our charging at home so no fluffing around with Apps and it's more convenient (and cheaper) than going to the servo.
Tesla drivers using Tesla chargers also don't need to worry about Apps as car talks to charger automatically. But if you do need to use App/RFID chargers it can be a bit of a pain.
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