10 Things You Didn't Know About Alien3
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The bleak hopelessness of Alien 3 is divine, and perfectly suits the grim, corporate-ruled dystopia of the Alien universe.
Agreed 🙏🏻
I hates it as a kid
Doesn't make it a good film though. It's a dreary, dreadful chore of a movie watching experience and one I don't ever want to repeat. Meanwhile, I can watch the first two Alien movies repeatedly and enjoy doing it.
I kinda wanted to see more of the Weyland-Yutani corporation cause in the movies it is mostly just mentioned.
Amen! Thank you for your brilliantly stated comment for this extraordinary film. I love it.
I have a story about this from my childhood that I'll never forget.
When I was about 10, there was a girl at school that was known for her family's love of dogs, and her mum would pick her up from school with some funny looking greyhound things. One day the girl told us that her dog was going to be in the new Alien film playing the alien, and of course, no one believed her because movies were made in Hollywood, a dog couldn't play an alien, and kids at that age like to tell tall tales. So, a few days or weeks later, the girl came in with a photo of her dog in an alien suit on a movie set, with her mum handling the dog. Our little minds were blown!
Now knowing the full story, I feel bad for her because her dog probably only ever did a screen test and never made it to the final film. It's a good thing she had that photo.
Lmao nice story you had in your back pocket ;-)
that's such a cool story!
There's footage of that dog in a xenomorph suit in the extras on the DVD box set. Cool idea but didn't look good on film lol.
they used that footage in the extended version now after it pops from the ox. it's been enhanced with some cg but there's of a quick shot of it.
@@ItsRichyMo Much like the monkeys on roller-skates that were going to play aliens at the end of Close Encounters.
Alien 3 is so stylised and a masterpiece in my eyes. The "Why do the innocent suffer" speech is mesmerising with the gripping score behind it.
Loved three growing up, and to me, it made Aliens the odd one out. I preferred the slow thriller nature of 1 & 3 over the action of two.
@@Codoxnz I agree. 1 & 3 were thrillers where you sit on the end of the seat, nervous of what to come and how the protagonists will ever survive their trials.
For me all 3 fits thematically together. 1 is the discovery of the race and the fight to survive, 2 shows how bad it can get if they are allowed to multiply, and 3 is Ripley knowing wth is up and fighting back. Love it.
Have you ever seen the extended version of Aliens?
@Vicious Alien Klown World not very explainable, but taste is in the eye of the beholder.
@Vicious Alien Klown World i disagree, well bare the graphics which haven't aged that we'll (not that it matter imo). :-)
You have the right to your opinion.
Absolutely love this film. The Assembly Cut ironically puts a lot of the original issues right (for example, it actually shows how all the characters die rather than just disappearing half way through the film like in the theatrical version) with a proper cut that makes sense, updated picture and resolved sound issues. It's a real tragedy that the Assembly Cut wasn't the one that was shown for the theatrical release back in the day. The cast is incredible with Ralph Brown, Brian Glover, Charles Dance and Charles S Dutton. What a line-up!
If you can get your hands on the Assembly Cut (found in the most recent blu ray Alien box set) the film is definitely worth a revisit and deserves more credit on its own merits than it usually gets.
I like the middle of the Assembly cut but the beginning and ending of the theatrical. Ripleys sacrifice was ruined in the assembly cut with that awful jittery slow mo. An Alien coming out of a dead cow also isn't anywhere near as effective as coming out of a living dog. Most of us love dogs so it's more gut wrenching seeing one die. Dogs are more vicious than cows so makes the Alien seem so too. But themiddle of the Assembly is better as it actually shows what happens to all the characters.
...... i didn't know this!! I got to get it. Excited!!!!!
I dont like part 3 anymore but its way better than part 4, god that movie is stupid
def the blue ray version that has the best soundtrack
Err ... and the late Pete Postlethwaite, in a "Long before he was famous" role.
What I love about your channel is even when you're covering a movie that's not too great, you manage to put a positive spin on it and find something to appreciate. It's a breath of fresh air on RUclips, which can be a black hole of negativity.
You can tell he is a thoughtful person. Even when he dislikes a movie he apologizes for disliking it.
Minty is like the finale word on all my favorite movies. I just agree with him. lol
He doesn’t just copy and paste facts, he goes to great lengths to find out obscure but interesting stuff. It shows he has a massive passion for movies, really funny and energetic but when the situation deserves it you can hear the respect in his writing and delivery. I’m familiar with so much of what he covers but he always find new facts and anecdotes. What always spring to mind is his Jaws episode where he essentially said ‘He knew this story was common knowledge but it was so important that he couldn’t leave it out’ it’s a great sentiment and shows there is a balance to everything.
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Agreed
Well said!
I can't stand how negative everyone on RUclips is, particularly against DC films. Which admittedly haven't been great, but there's definitely bias on DC in favor of marvel.
Huge fan of Alien 3. Especially the Assembly Cut. They really pull off the dark and depressing atmosphere. I also like that there are no weapons so they have to be innovative in how they kill it.
Have you seen the LittleJimmy835 critique of the film? You'd like it.
Out of context and with the dust settled I find it a brilliant movie. I love the gritty cold atmosphere in a unique setting with exactly what you said.. no weapons.
@@katey1dog Thanks. I'll give it a watch. Chris Stuckman did a good 50 minute review with one of his mates.
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I'm a huge fan of it too and really think the Assembly cut is as good as Aliens & Alien. Truly underrated 🤔
I was a child when I watched this movie and the fact that even children wasn’t spared now made me feel even more despair. That probably wasn’t the best thing psychologically, in hindsight, but it made me feel something and I liked this movie a lot because of it - in comparison to many other movies today where evoking emotions are simply left out.
This also was the early 90’s and it reflects the alley that movies went into, pushing the limits of darkness and violence to its limits. It just being Ripley once again became a bit repetitive. But never have I felt those explorative feelings of such violence in movies since,..
I’ve never seen the extended cut I will say that I still thoroughly enjoy Alien 3 despite its missteps. I like the close quarters feel of it and it has more of the horror vibe in it , reminiscent of the first movie. To this day it’s a guilty pleasure and I watch it at least once a year. There are great elements to it
I just saw the assembly cut. Very interesting
I love it, it's a prison, it's not meant to be light and cheery. The depressing, claustrophobic nature of spending your whole life there filled me with dread all on it's own. I ALWAYS want more Ripley, but she had a good death and it was time. Glad she got more dough for going bald, it takes as so long for hair to grow.
And so did the irs
I am one of the people that loves Alien 3.
It is dark, bleak, depressing for sure but the characters are great and the lack of weapons and the alien taking out people reminded me of Alien.
there's a lot more of us than you think 😉
Count me in hats off to alien 3
alien is art(based more on the original artwork) and alien 3 is ... brown
@@jotr.9786 brown?
@@jotr.9786 I thought Geiger said that about the 4th movie
Loved how the 20th Century Fox opening was blended into the Alien music. And the opening credits were unique.
This was the movie that Introduced me to the Alien franchise. It will always have a special place in my heart.
Honestly, as dark and depressing Alien 3 is, I actually really enjoy this movie. I respect it’s bold move to take the Alien saga into a new direction to create sympathy for the characters. After all, it’s about a monster running around killing people. You shouldn’t be cheering to see them get killed, you should be feeling sorry for them. Both Alien and Aliens stand as their own films, and Alien 3 should as well.
I especially love the music score of this movie. It fits the tone of it perfectly in my opinion. Movies like this shouldn’t be trashed on, they should be appreciated and respected on what it took to make and what it was created into.
It's like waterworld: you either love it or hate it.
IMO it wasn't a terrible movie, it's just that 1 and 2 were kickass over the top smashes.
I loved the original concept. A single alien among unarmed individuals was returning to the horror and not going the action movie direction. The star of the movie isn’t the alien itself, it’s the tension or fear it creates. Being trapped with no way to defend yourself leaves limitless possibilities. That’s probably why the famous “Alien Isolation” game was based on similar principles. Not only that, they literally had the perfect substitute director for that subject matter- David Fincher. The problem is this is what happens when greedy studio executives come in and make all decisions from a financial standpoint. The end product is kind of a mess imo. There were a couple of genuine situations of palpable tension and fear, but everything else was a hot mess.
i did too. something different.
The only thing that I don't like is Newt's death. It's simply erasing the character between movies.
I've come to have the same kinda outlook. To properly enjoy watching Alien 3 I consciously look at the previous movies as it's backstory as opposed to viewing A3 itself as a solid sequel to them, and thinking like this not only enhances the viewing of A3 for me but makes watching Aliens an even better watch too.
I've said this a few times in comments, but Alien 3 is the logical end to Ripleys story.
The Xenomorph has taken everything from her.
Her original crew
Her daughter(because she was stranded in deep space after the events of the first film)
The marines who she was sent to advise
Her surogate daughter
Her potential love interest
And ultimately her life
She even lost her hair!!
@@ericlewisauthor That one must've really broken her.
Newt was a loudmouth dumbo brat
She even says in the movie the alien had been in her life so long, she cant remember anything else, or something along those lines.
Then she was brought back in the next movie.
No one would call it perfect, but it's absolutely a great debut from a visual master. The fact something watchable came from that production is a testament to the genius of Fincher.
Alien 3 has the most melancholic- industrial feeling of dread and isolation in any of the alien movies made in my humble opinion.
Out of context without the expectations... I really enjoyed this movie. It had a gritty cold more serious atmosphere and a very unique setting. Big fan of it with hindsight. Is it as classic as the first two? No but it tried to be its own thing and I respect that. I think Ripley is fantastic as she actually leads and willing to sacrifice herself for the greater good
Me too
More serious than A L I E N?
I really loved Vincent Ward's vision for Alien 3, there's a fan made trailer here, culled from other films.
@@shaz2761 from a characters standpoint yes... Threat of rape, deeply disturbed characters... The xenomorph aside you feel like Ripley is in just as much danger from the inmates. It's a cold unwelcoming setting way beyond Alien. Part of Alien success is the early tone where everyone is caring and rather nice... which obviously leads to the horror that follows.. a false sense of security. Alien works because the setting is sort of standard mucky but mostly warm early on .. So the pay off is fantastic.
@Minty Comedic Arts:
FUN FACT: Since David Twohy wrote one of the scripts for "Alien 3", that was later rejected, 20th Century Fox years later (around 2000 maybe) once tried to inquire his availability to write AND direct the first "Alien vs. Predator". But sadly, despite his big interest in the project, he was forced to turn it down due to scheduling conflicts.
Not to mention, i've also talked with Twohy directly about this and he even thought it would've been pretty cool idea after mentioning writing a script that took elements from his old "Alien 3" draft, and borrowed elements from Peter Briggs' old 1991 AVP spec-script that's floating around on the internet.
The SNES game of Alien 3 was awesome! I loved it's music and atmosphere more than anything, but it still played and looked great. I played it for many hours at a time as a young teen.
Yeah that game looked good.
excellent game!
This is my favorite of the Alien movies, after the original. The character development, cinematography, music and finale. Same way the Fountain is my favorite Aronofsky film or 3:10 to Yuma my favorite Mangold film. Very enjoyable video Minty
I personally loved all the Alien movies especially 3. Maybe because it was my first introduction into the series
Ha, mine too :D I think I even watched Aliens before Alien, so I watched them in reverse order. At the end the first one became my favorite. It's so creepy!
I also really liked all of the original four Alien movies, and I'm glad that the third one is something different, and the whole prison thing reminded me of Riddick movies which I also like. With the xenomorphs, Weyland-Yutani and the world structure the films getting more depressing was the most natural thig to happen, naturally ending with Earth being turned into uninhabited wasteland at the end of Alien 4. What sucked though is Alien: Covenant, as it just doesn't work on so many levels. The Prometheus was OK, and it gave us this hope of finding out more about the Engineers, but what we got instead was David's story of making better xenomorphs, which just felt stupid and ill-concieved.
Alien 4 is stupid enough to be written by a 7 year old
Alien 3 the Assembly Cut is a Masterpiece
If that's what you have to tell yourself.
You clearly haven’t seen the Assembly Cut
@@crakatoot5480 I have. Its still a bad movie.
@@chucklapine6782 No true Alien 3 fan would ever say that
@@crakatoot5480 Thats because Im not a fan of the movie.
Just throwing this out there, but I really like the prison setting in the this movie.
I just enjoy the type of settings which has plenty of spaces with no answer as to where the monster is lurking.
In particular, the corridors scene always gives me chills with that in mind.
Seriously, if I was in those corridors with an alien lurking around, I would probably die of a heart attack.
Or you can just say I like horror movies set in prisons (you wouldn't be wrong).
“They brought in a whippet, but they couldn’t whippet good.” LMAO I love your puns so much.
I liked the theatrical cut. It is a Greek tragedy in a sci-fi format. But after the assembly cut came out, I upgraded my opinion and now I love the film. I see more of what David Fischer was going for and his abilities as a director were apparent to me at the time. I defended his ability to direct from the very beginning and my view was vindicated with the release of Seven. Still, Alien3 was not what everyone wanted and wasn’t even what I wanted but I could and still can see the beauty in-spite of the ugliness.
Alien 3 is underrated film. It probably annoyed audience because they wanted a shoot email up like Aliens. I love that it tries to be its own film. But the whole problem was too many politics. By the way Vincent Ward isn't British he is a New Zealander.
@SharrelWright then again the academy got confused with Sean Connery playing an Irishman in The Untouchables
My father took me to this before he passed away. So even though I remember being disappointed by it, watching it makes me remember that day and appreciate that the movie provided me with that memory. Love your videos and appreciate you.
I love that you pick up on the color themes in this movie! Alien uses a lot of white/bright artificial lighting contrasted with darkness, Aliens is definitively blue, Alien 3 is a gritty brown and orange as mentioned and Ressurection has yellow tones through and throughout.
Very cool.
I actually like Alien 3. But I can understand why some people didn't like it. The Director's Cut is far superior than the original theatrical release
It was a shit movie
I liked the directors cut better also
There is no directors cut. Special edition or something yes. Fincher disowned it
Assembley cut
I've loved this movie since the day of its release. It's extremely grim and cold. As a nihilistic nightmare, I find its lack of hope to be both unique and thematically appropriate.
The Assembly Cut (extended version) really makes Alien 3 a better movie. You get more in-depth with more characters, more exterior shots that actually look really good, and there's a small change in the ending that's for the better.
One of my favorites of the Alien Franchise. Incredible dialogue and music. Was sad Fincher couldn't have had more control.
Actually, it was a dog hybrid in the US cut too, but in the director's cut, it was a dead ox, which doesn't make sense, since there would be no oxygen supply to keep it alive.
Yeah though it was a dog when my pops rented this back in 1993.
Charles S Dutton is underrated.
I love and admire your empathy, Minty. But as someone who sat through this train wreck in the theater, I couldn’t care less how horrible the production was.
As far as I’m concerned, there are only two films in the Alien Franchise. In my honest opinion, there’s no excuse for the garbage we Alien fans got as a result of all the Whippet shenanigans!
PS: I don’t believe there was a need for the shirt disclaimer, Minty. I love James Rolfe! Besides, lots of RUclipsrs rock other RUclipsrs’ merch on camera all the time.
That AVGN Tee kicks ass!
💚🤘😝💚
My take on it: James Cameron had brilliance with Aliens and T2, by far two of the best sci-fi action sequels ever made. Alien 3 was a big androgynous step backwards, even when the action did kick in a bit in Alien 3, the odd 144mm wide-pan shots of the "alien view while running" was odd and didn't really add anything. The practical effects, characters, plot, and action sequences of Aliens was far superb to any other film in the entire franchise. Not to mention that Sigourney Weaver's role in Aliens was very badass, whereas in Alien 3 there's more yin/yang going on between the prisoners and her walking on eggshells half the time, a weird tension that sets too deep and steals time away from what could have been better action sequences. My opinion, they should have either went with the "Aliens made it to Earth" plot, or just stopped the series with Aliens.
The soundtrack was amazing. I recognised a few familiar sounds in Demolition man.
An extra one. Batman Vs superman in the hallway fight. That music is from the matrix when Neo gets up after being shot. Don't let me get started on how much avatar ripped off lol
“The brothers have forgotten some of their ‘vows’, so excuse me they need a ‘reminding’!”
Charles dutton was awesome in the role of dillon. Him being an ex con may have contributed to that.
I enjoy the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 and also wish we could have seen the movie as FIncher actually envisioned it, rather than with all the studio tampering.
The thing that I liked about it, beside the iconic shots of the Alien and Ripley and Ripley falling into the lava is the work the steadicam operator did on creating the Alien's perspective shots. I always thought it was a really cool idea to put the audience into the Alien's viewpoint.
I agree that the film would be better with a color re-grade and if there was a way to adjust the Alien puppet elements to better fit the backgrounds, it would also improve things.
It's pretty cool how all the things you note as your negatives at the end are what makes the movie awesome for me. I love how slow, dark, dreary and hopeless the movie is. I also think it looks beautiful, with the orange and brown colors! I think all those things just fit so well with the Alien universe.
Been watching the shit outta this lately ! I’m a huge Charles S Dutton fan . I believe this is one of the most underrated Sci Fi movies out there ! Great pic Minty
Alien : a masterpiece
Aliens : a wonderful masterpiece
Alien 3 : Oops !
Alien Resurection : a quite funny 'Jurassic Park's parody
Alien vs Predator : not so bad
Aliens vs Predator : not good
Prometardus : it does not exist, we all had a hallucination
Alien Crapenant : it never happened
The last two Alien franchise entries actually grew on me. I'd take them over anything else after Aliens.
The characters were so dumb in the last one. It's an insult to Humanity. That movie is even worse than the Rock Giants in Noah.
Alien Resurrection was half good and the last 1/3 is appalling. Loved Ron Pearlman though.
@@andrewbarbarash3116 but the hybrid monster getting sucked out of the hole was classic
@@xenos_n. My words it's enjoyable and hilarious. But seeing that awful human alien hybrid looking pathetic kill the queen like it's nothing made me so angry. The least scary yet strongest alien of all time. Blasphemy!
Absolutely deserves to be held in the same esteem as the first two. It returns to the theme of a single alien against humans armed only with intelligence. The situation of a colony of male criminals atoning for their pasts in a monastic culture suddenly presented with the twin evils of a lethal monster and a female creates a tension that is always present. Sigourney is excellent and despite being the lead, defers to the several Shakespearian actors in the mostly-British cast. Charles Dance and Brian Glover being the stand-outs. The 'Alien's-eye' footage was both a technical marvel for its day and a clever theatrical technique to generate some understanding and even sympathy for a creature fighting for its life just as much as the humans were.
EDIT: I realised I had the special edition on my DVD that I had never watched. I prefered the theatre version.
I love the Angry Video Game Nerd and also love the fact that you wearing their shirt; as well as when you recognize what they've done for the video games that you cover.
This film has grown on me over the decades. It holds a nostalgic factor that is a time capsule for early 90's sci-fi cinema. Oh, and I loved the Nintendo and Sega game. I do however like it better than the 4th installment, RESURRECTIONS
I love Alien 3 on the Sega, one of those classics for me.
agree
The fourth one is actually my least favourite, not being able to remember anything more than clones in it. This third one I actually remember a lot more from, which I then have to attest a higher score to. It was rememberable.
I'm a fan of Alien 3. The assembly cut is quite a bit better. It fleshes out story much better with them actually trapping the alien and Golic screwing everything up. But still, a classic example of how studios can screw everything up. Just let the director do what they feel will make the movie good.
THe Alien FX are puppets, I totally thought it was bad CG because the aliens color doesnt match the background. I like the vision behind the movie but the ultimate product
doesnt match up yeah it couldve been very good
My best friend said he is currently reading the novel based on alien 3th true version. I should ask him if it's the monk plot line.
LOVED the rollercoaster camera work on this one.. Xeno cam? was something new to the franchise.
I've always loved Alien 3 in fact if there was a list of great movies that have bad reputations this would be very high on that list
This was the lowest of the low of the series but cool video Minty, keep up the good work, take care
Resurrection was worse.
@@chucklapine6782 I 💯% agree with you
I liked this movie. I liked the other ones better and I think it is a shame how they disposed of the characters but it is still a good watch.
this movie came out when i turned 9 years old. my mom took me to the movie theater and let me choose between seeing this and Class Act. i chose this and til this day am still glad i did.
Alien3 is another example of a masterclass in studio tempering.
i never had an issue with this film. the hicks and newt issue maybe but its a great film. but please do yourself a big favour and watch the assembly cut version of this film. its just a big improvement
Newt and hicks sucked
I actually love alien 3 despite it not being a popular film and its actually my second favorite in the series. The assembly cut is the best version of the film and fixes most of the problems with the theatrical version.
I really enjoyed it too.
I'll have to check that out
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It's really good.
What's the first ? let me guess.... ALIEN ?
@@KaraokeNig yup.
I really developed a love for this movie over the years. When I originally saw it I didn't like it, but I watched it again 20 years later with the other ones and found an entire new appreciation for the darkness and social commentary of it.
I love the Alien movies and nothing can beat the first 2 but lol I really enjoy Alien 3. Seriously, I think aside from the CGI it really is a great movie. Now Alien: Resurrection is another story but even that one had certain charms, I'm at a loss right now to say what those were lol but definitely I remember there being some redeeming qualities. Excellent review Minty once again, thank you for all your hard work.
I loved this movie. In my opinion, it’s dark & depressing tone is a great ending for Ripley, her bravery, especially at the end, sums up the character perfectly; smart, brave & strong. It’s not a perfect movie, but I really love it.
To be honest i like this xenomorph design than james cameron's..spacially on the neca toys
I've always loved Alien 3. Even while everyone else bagged it.
It was a dark film. I was 18 and my life wasn't in a good place at that time. So it resonated. It was just the Alien film I needed at that time.
And now, knowing the difficulties that the production went through and even with its obvious flaws, I still look at this film (albeit probably with Rose coloured glasses) with fondness and I still enjoy it to this day, some 30 odd years later.
This is one of my favorite dark movies. I am a huge fan of the alien franchise. This movie has helped me get through some tough times in my life. Because when I watch it, I always think it could be worse. I could be stuck on this planet with an alien running around trying to kill everyone. The fact that Hicks and Newt were killed off sets the stage for the tone of this movie. I love it because it is not a typical Hollywood, (hero wins in the end) movie. It’s much deeper than that. I think the art direction and music score is spot on for the story.
Felt like I was the only one who liked Alien 3 the directors cut was good
Read the William Gibsons script years ago and that's the script they should have gone with.They did use concepts from that script in the other Alien sequels,like micro Aliens that infected people,but instead of 1 chestburster,there would be multiple chestbusters coming out of 1 person.
Audible did an Audio drama of the William Gibson under the Name of Alien III.
Also there were two actor from the First two Alien Movies was part of the cast.
Michael Biehn and Lance Henriksen.
They add music, sound affects, ambient noises.
I feel like this script version was similar like movie alien Resurrection, like Alien resurrection took some of the elements out of the William Gibson script.
Or you can say that Alien resurrection was a continuing story from the William Gibson script
@@daniellord9701 Well,when the studio hires a writer to write a sequel,they let the screenwriter read the unmade scripts that the studio has and the novels.The Ripley clone idea was a concept in one of the novels,which I've read.
For years, my friends and I told horror stories on things we would rather do than have to sit through Alien 3 again.
I love alien 3. But love the directors cut even more.
I don't know if they came out there but here in the states in Walmart there has been some colorful Alien toys that look exactly like they came from designs for that cartoon. At the very least they were inspired by it.
Ellen Ripley is sporting the Minty hair cut like the rest of the prisoners.
I personally love this movie. I remember when I first saw the special effects I was really creeped out, and impressed.
I found this review a warm, honest counterpoint to the depressing subject matter. Good on you for making this and all you do. Good on me for faithfully sticking with your channel.
This movie had one hell of a troubled production!
Love this movie,David Fincher got a bad rap,we heard about a colony on a farm,the bull for the dog,Sigourney shaving her head,the plot twist,and it was supposed to be on Earth
I love how Ripley said Don't be afraid I'm part of the family while she searching for the alien.
David Fincher Is an excellent director. He did a great job for his directorial debut being an unknown. He's one of those guys with his own signature style. Seven, Fight club, Gone girl, and others. And so many people have never heard of him.
This was the first Alien movie I saw back when I was 10 years old. My aunt was babysitting me and she would let me watch R rated movies. This movie has a special place in my heart and is my second favorite Alien movie after Aliens
A sequel that focused on Hicks would have been great. I did not care at all for Aliens 3, 4, any of the Predator crossovers, or Prometheus. It should have remained its own storyline and taken a different path in my opinion.
What I hate about the hate on ALIEN 3, is that people talk about "the happy ending of ALIENS", "The family Dynamic of ALIENS", "That Ripley finally had a daughter to define her", "That ALIEN 3 is depressing, dark, gloomy, etc..." and then I argue back that the ALIEN franchise was created under the inspiration of H.P. Lovecraft's nihilistic writings, and H.R. Giger's dark, sensual and disturbing artwork.
It is stupid to complain about a story that is in essence with its own premise which were on the original ALIEN story by creator Dan O'Bannon: "Space is uncaring, the universe would not change if humans went extinct, Humans believe themselves to be superior until faced with ancient things from the dark corners of the void of Space". Essentially, ALIEN 3 did as an H.P. Lovecraft novel, no happy endings, and many of the important people died...wait, didn't that happen in the previous movies? Of course it did! And the Alien Xenomorph wasn't shut out to space from an airlock this time.
ALIEN 3 was a great movie with the premise that humans don't always win over the monsters, and like ALIEN the least expected character was the one that survived. ALIEN 3 was more like ALIEN and NOT ALIENS and that is what people cry about. Subjectively I love ALIEN 3 as an ALIEN franchise fan, and objectively, the movie IS a good movie but people wanted Guns a blazing, Power Loaders a Slappin'.
"They brought in a whippet, but they could not whippet good." Shit like that is why we love you, Minty.
I really enjoyed this movie, I like that it was different and was bold and dark. There were some very good characters and action scenes. It beats all the reboots and sequels that are being made today.
I loved this movie. It was an epic end to an epic franchise.
On RUclips, LittleJimmy835 produced a video similar to this 10 years ago and justifies our love of this film.
I absolutely am addicted to your content. Binge watching all of your videos.
Great show, as always, I actually like this one…can’t wait to see your reaction for Resurrection…now that one’s the odd one in the series for me! I think 3 and 4 attempted to do things subversive and I think 3 pulled it off much better (just my opinion mind 🙏🏻)
regarding SGs bald look the 2nd time ''Because of continuing troubles with the film, Fox halted production in Pinewood Studios in England in late 1991. The crew returned to LA, and an initial screening identified the missing parts of the film. A major part yet to be shot included killing of the alien in the lead pool. By the time of the new shots in LA, Sigourney Weaver’s hair grew back, and she had an agreement with the producers that if she would have to cut her hair she would be paid a $40,000 bonus. The producers therefore hired Greg Cannom to create a bald cap with very short hair on it. The make-up process cost $16,000 and was very difficult and time-consuming because the hairline required the cap to be placed very precisely on Weaver’s head.'' personally i find a3 more entertaining than a1
I've always been a huge fan of Alien 3. I get why some people don't like it or even hate it, but killing off most of the main characters from Aliens in the movie's opening really helped set the hopeless, depressing tone of the rest of the movie. I also love the fact that they didn't have guns and that they were racing against time as Ripley had a queen alien in her. I still like Aliens more, but this is my 2nd favorite Alien movie to this day.
Definitely. The fact that even children wasn’t spared made me, as I child at that time, feel even more despair. That probably wasn’t the best thing psychologically, in hindsight, but at least made me feel something - in comparison to many other movies today. This also was the early 90’s and it reflects the alley that movies went into them, pushing the limits of darkness and violence to its limits. Never have I felt that explorative feeling of such violence since,..
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I always considered this one as Ripley’s dream in hyper sleep. Her journey with the aliens ends at the end of the movie aliens with Newt and hicks. When she says “I had a terrible dream in hyper sleep” to Clemens she was referring to her story in Alien 3.
I enjoyed Alien 3, watched it in the theater opening day back then. I feel it's actually more in line with the first Alien, which was also "slower" and darker. Aliens is an awesome sequel, but it's more action-orientated, and that's what most people were expecting from its follow-up.
Despite the mess of a production, I've always enjoyed 3. The supporting cast is great and there's some interesting concepts. I've always found something to enjoy in 4 too for that matter (mostly the cast again, but it's fun to make fun of it, mst3k-style)
I used to like Alien 3 but now I find it to be kinda 1-note, not a very good movie but the Alien FX are gnarly as fuck
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I started watching the special edition last night (it's been a few years) and I dig it. I kind of like the odd prisoner/monk aspect, it adds an unsettling and uncomfortable quality to Ripley's predicament that works. The whole cast is great too, especially Charles Dance
I'd love to see the monastery take. I feel that would have been so much better!
I think Fincher did the best he could with the material given to him. The decision to move away from Ripley, then away from Hicks, Bishop and Newt killed the storyline and momentum that Aliens helped build up and move forward. Great video as always Minty!
Newt and hicks tried to steal ripleys spotlight
@@tsitracommunications2884 Then I guess they got what was coming to them. Don't mess with Ripley!
@@brettaccardo6940 A-A-A-MEN!!
Honestly if they woulda called it a day on the franchise with this film I think it would have been a beautifully completed story.
Resurrection was bad idea
I believe Alien 3 is a great movie if you see it as a standalone film. Great acting and some stylish visual and camera direction. I thought it was well done considering it’s low budget and production setbacks. But because is tied to tow amazing prequels that is in everyone’s mind and virtually impossible to scape, then that is when it becomes a disappointment.
I love Alien 3. Its sad, depressing but the Aliens-universe with big megacorporations is sad and depressing. The mood is amazing. This film makes me sad, scared, excited, laughing, interested for more. Few films can provoke so many feelings in me as this film. I think it's brilliant.
They killed Newt and Hicks...Then of course Ripley... I never could get past that... bad installment....
i personally think Ripleys death worked really well, because in her eyes, she hasnt had a break from the aliens since the first movie, as she was in hypersleep. i also believe this movie deserves more love than it gets as it went back to a more horror styling, with very minimal guns.
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Love ya Minty!!! Thanks for another great video
your final review about the movie is my EXACT sentiment. I wanted to love this movie, but I just cant get into it. A lot of work went into it, but when you have THAT many ppl trying to do something with it, rather than letting the team you hired, do it. Its expected to be bad. Also, I LOVE the story about the monastery, I wish they would have gone with that. Also, my biggest pet peeve. HOW DID AN EGG GET ON THE SHIP!? the queen has no sac, and she wasn't on the ship long enough to lay anything? the queen literally went from, lv426, to the drop ship, to the Sulaco, fought Ripley, then died.....HOW IS THERE AN EGG ON BOARD?! Anyway, love your content. Havent missed one yet.
Hey Minty. I think this is one of your best ever, seriously.
This is my absolute favourite out of the series. Aliens is an awesome grab a pizza and a beer action movie but this one really captures and reels you in with a rollercoaster of emotion throughout the film
Alien is my favorite movie franchise and Alien³ the special edition my favorite in the franchise, it has the best score alongside Jed Kurzel’s in Alien Covenant.
Years ago, i worked for an IT recycling company, and we had a job at Pinewood studios, amongst old equipment was costing paperwork for this very movie, to this day it blows my mind i was allowed to browse through breakdowns on various expenses making this film before it was shredded, as a huge Alien fan, i was beside myself! That moment of joy aside, this movie really wasn't up to the previous high standards, however its still worth a watch from time to time...
Fantastic job Minty. Really enjoyed this one. Now all thats left to do, is complete the Lance Hendrickson Alien Trifecta, is do "10 Things you Didn't Know about AvP" (Alien vs Predator). :)