If it feels like its flies a little twitchy and wants to drop a wing sometimes, try moving the battery (CG) forward more. to far forward is easier to fly than to far back. Of course just the right spot flies best. Also planes are like quads in a way with getting your rates (servo end points on taranis) and expo set just right. Try reducing the throw on the servo's by 10 to 20 percent and adding some more expo (not to much though. Expo at 30% is a good starting point) Flight test on youtube has tons of great videos on this stuff. They are like the Joshua Bardwell of rc planes. They taught me enough to build my own 4ft fpv wing with 3 motors. Have fun brother. I want to see another video with you ripping along with a wing!
Actually great to see the pains you’re going thru. I can certainly relate. I’m seeing the exact same things and taking steps to fix those. Wings definitely take more attention to detail, and have a longer learning curve than quads. Tip stalls are particularly annoying. Wondering if lack of available power prevents pulling out of the more severe drops. Orientation also kills me too since I don’t have Superman eyesight. It is challenging to gain the confidence to FPV my wings, but that is my goal. Thanks for putting out this video.
The Eachine P51 was my learner flyer. 4 channel with flight stabaliser, 2 angle modes and full manual. Best thing I ever did.. I think you bit off a bit much trying to go straight to full manual... especially with such a fast, tiny and hard to see black wing. Nerve wracking isnt it? Are you still enjoying flying them?
They are easy to fix, I've glued mine together over a dozen times. The wings have never broke just fuselage and wing tips. Make sure you have 5 deg up on aileron trim fixed and that your aileron down is limited to about 15 to 20 degree throw. That keeps you from over correcting a forward stick input and diving to the ground.
Fantastic, dude! I'm really happy for you! 😃 The only tip I can give you is to stay high. That way if something happens you have more space before crashing into the ground. 😉 Another thing you have to remember is that it's amazingly cheap and easy to make wings from depron or foam board. Just search for kfm2 wing on youtube, there're LOTS of videos showing how to make them. And there're LOTS of plans over the internet too. 😉
they disappear out of sight pretty quick dont they lol , and yeah , they fly better on a calm day , they get knocked around by the wind , but you did a hell of a lot better than I did first flight......you got it in the air !!
Hi. Cool to see you also getting info flying airplanes. I'm also just starting out so looking forward to your journey with the next step in the rc hobby.
I just got an fpv Wing built. Now I'm returning back to this video and crack up all over again. All because I did and sounded just like you my one and only flights I have so far. Stall speed is definitely a real thing. I even broke my cam first crash. Definitely throw into the wind! And have to go faster going with the wind. Fun stuff! Great video!
Awesome thanks for the upload man. I just ordered one, going to install a flight controller and fpv though. thanks for the inspiration. You helped in showing me this one can take allot of abuse lol.
That was awesome to watch. Was this your first day for fixed wing flying or just wing flying? As in, have you ever flown any other planes? I'm trying to gauge how horrible I'm going to do with my first ever fixed wing....lol.. considering the full size AR wing or something like the bixler v1.1.
It is MUCH easier to take off into the wind, rather than taking off with the wind behind you. Air speed creates lift, so you should be taking off the other direction.
Black is the hardest color to keep orientation. Great Job flying it I wish I had a computer to see what's going on. Can't wait for some FPV, and foam is the easiest to fix just remember to check your balance. JohnnyDRC
What size battery are you using. I only have a 4s 1500 that barely fits. Maybe I need to trim it out so it gets off the ground. Also what throttle to take off with looked like 75% or higher
Awesome video! Please more wing videos and builds of them, I've bought the same wing, cheap and wonderful!! supeerr cool, huge fan of your's, keep the great job!
Was wondering if u had a a stabilizer or flying acro ??? U have to make sure cc is correct. I have Rmrc recruit haven't had time to fly it yet . Wings are cool : )
If the balance point allows it, try to use a lighter battery, this will decrease your stall velocity. The lighter the wing is, the easier it is to fly.
CG is off . It's good to be a little nose heavy but not alot.. Should be a CG Mark on each side of the wings. Put your battery in and move it forward or backward so that it will balance on your finger tips.
GREAT video and great to watch some beginner crashes as opposed to FPV racers showing off! Wings are I inherently unstable, are you using inav and a FC in there, I would expect that may help...
Bigger is easier. I have the small one too and it's so fast and small it gets out of sight really quickly and you lose orientation easily. It's really not made for LOS but for FPV.
I think it has high stall speed, you must keep the speed in corners. That is the reason for strange behaviour. Best way is to fly fpv until you are confident in flying this little thing
Give us the slo mo disintegrating foam board footage! One of the great things about planes, they crash spectacularlty direct relationship with their M*V lol
I've already build this kind of plane for the 3rd time now in 2 weeks :-)) keep crashing it at low altitude glide and sudden throttle punch up, it always tend to go nose down every time I do that.
Tip 1: stand on the side of the field with your back to the sun and do laps over the field so you don't lose orientation being blinded... Those flying wings are notoriously unstable, they are not a good starter model to learn to fly RC aircraft. Flying RC models is nothing like flying quads at all in that you should not do quick stick movements like you have to with a quad, quick stick movements introduce aerodynamic instability and yes a minimum throttle can induce a stall. I came to quads from RC aircraft, I still have heaps of them that I don't fly because I got bored doing circle laps all the time.... Tip 2: the more wind the more crashes! Tip 3: Buy lots of glues of different sorts and be prepared to spend countless boring hours repairing broken aircraft.
Repairing these is a lot easier and faster than quads.. I want these with FPV so when i crash all my quads i fly them with the charged batteries and cruise. Can you recommend glue for these i have no idea which glue to buy im just using super glue.
'Gorilla glue' is excellent on foam. I don't know what else it is called around the world (just google it), but it is a water activated glue which expands as it dries so good for filling gaps too. Hot glue works well on foam and can used on the field, sets pretty quickly. Finally epoxy is the strongest but is a pig to use and heavy. Superglue is fine in some situations but very brittle.
Don't let people tell you that you can't learn on wings. They are much easier to fly then 4-6 channel planes. I learned on wings from Crash Test Hobby, they are strong and fly really well. For the wing you have you will want to use welders glue. Make sure to clean the mold release from the foam with alcohol before applying the glue. You could use hot glue, it's what I use most often. As for tip you are flying a little to fast, you need time to get the reaction reflex down before you go ape shit. I know it's fun to hit those high speeds but what you want is more fly time and less repair time. Also after watching the rest of the video I noticed you just have the battery placed in the bay. You need to secure it with a strap or Velcro. If it moves back and changes your center of gravity becoming tail heavy (which you weren't checking) you will nose in like that every time.
if I were to guess what is happening with the crashes. I would guess it's the cheap plastic servos that they use. My first upgrade was to upgrade to Full Metal servos
I can't tell but I assume it's rolling over on You? (I'm a sponsored 3d heli pilot and fly planes of all type but big in to large scale 3D planes) if it's rolling on you in a turn what is happening is likely when you are pulling back on the stick to turn you need differential dialed in your radio ... how to tell if that's what's happened fly level and pull back on the stick and if the nose pulls up and rolls one way or the other when you are just pulling back on the stick that's what you need. The more you pull back the more it wants to roll in a direction well it takes some radio adjustments to stop it or know how to fly around it... if it does that and that's prolly it when you are banked and start pulling back to turn the wing will roll just as it does when you are level and pull back. If it's in the same direction you are already banked and you don't know how to fly around it it can cause the plane to roll and nose,down quickly. A LOT of smaller sub 34 inch wings will do it to the left.
@@ChrisCroft There are vids of long range with the small 600mm. 20Km: ruclips.net/video/XbcLv5EBSRQ/видео.html Also 1 hour+ flying time with a big 3s liion.
Visit the nearest model flying club. They vill probably gladly help you get the cg rigtht, trim it up, get decent rates on the rudders. After that you have a slight possibility to keep it en the air for more than one minute :-)
If it feels like its flies a little twitchy and wants to drop a wing sometimes, try moving the battery (CG) forward more. to far forward is easier to fly than to far back. Of course just the right spot flies best.
Also planes are like quads in a way with getting your rates (servo end points on taranis) and expo set just right. Try reducing the throw on the servo's by 10 to 20 percent and adding some more expo (not to much though. Expo at 30% is a good starting point)
Flight test on youtube has tons of great videos on this stuff. They are like the Joshua Bardwell of rc planes. They taught me enough to build my own 4ft fpv wing with 3 motors.
Have fun brother. I want to see another video with you ripping along with a wing!
Actually great to see the pains you’re going thru. I can certainly relate. I’m seeing the exact same things and taking steps to fix those. Wings definitely take more attention to detail, and have a longer learning curve than quads. Tip stalls are particularly annoying. Wondering if lack of available power prevents pulling out of the more severe drops. Orientation also kills me too since I don’t have Superman eyesight. It is challenging to gain the confidence to FPV my wings, but that is my goal. Thanks for putting out this video.
The Eachine P51 was my learner flyer. 4 channel with flight stabaliser, 2 angle modes and full manual. Best thing I ever did..
I think you bit off a bit much trying to go straight to full manual... especially with such a fast, tiny and hard to see black wing. Nerve wracking isnt it?
Are you still enjoying flying them?
They are easy to fix, I've glued mine together over a dozen times. The wings have never broke just fuselage and wing tips. Make sure you have 5 deg up on aileron trim fixed and that your aileron down is limited to about 15 to 20 degree throw. That keeps you from over correcting a forward stick input and diving to the ground.
Fantastic, dude! I'm really happy for you! 😃
The only tip I can give you is to stay high. That way if something happens you have more space before crashing into the ground. 😉
Another thing you have to remember is that it's amazingly cheap and easy to make wings from depron or foam board. Just search for kfm2 wing on youtube, there're LOTS of videos showing how to make them. And there're LOTS of plans over the internet too. 😉
Also check out the Flite Test guys have free plans for all their board airplanes!
@@TransAm2k4 Absolutely! Flite Test is great! 😃
they disappear out of sight pretty quick dont they lol , and yeah , they fly better on a calm day , they get knocked around by the wind , but you did a hell of a lot better than I did first flight......you got it in the air !!
Hi. Cool to see you also getting info flying airplanes. I'm also just starting out so looking forward to your journey with the next step in the rc hobby.
I just got an fpv Wing built. Now I'm returning back to this video and crack up all over again. All because I did and sounded just like you my one and only flights I have so far. Stall speed is definitely a real thing. I even broke my cam first crash. Definitely throw into the wind! And have to go faster going with the wind. Fun stuff! Great video!
Loool it gets better... It is an amazing adventure though and totally worth it.
"YEAH!!.....oh shit!" lmao awesome start of the video lol.
I've had the 900 mm version for a couple weeks now. It flies extremely solid.
This is how i expect my first flights of my s800 to go if not worse than your flight. Well done.
Awesome thanks for the upload man. I just ordered one, going to install a flight controller and fpv though. thanks for the inspiration.
You helped in showing me this one can take allot of abuse lol.
That was awesome to watch. Was this your first day for fixed wing flying or just wing flying? As in, have you ever flown any other planes? I'm trying to gauge how horrible I'm going to do with my first ever fixed wing....lol.. considering the full size AR wing or something like the bixler v1.1.
It is MUCH easier to take off into the wind, rather than taking off with the wind behind you. Air speed creates lift, so you should be taking off the other direction.
Black is the hardest color to keep orientation. Great Job flying it I wish I had a computer to see what's going on. Can't wait for some FPV, and foam is the easiest to fix just remember to check your balance. JohnnyDRC
What size battery are you using. I only have a 4s 1500 that barely fits. Maybe I need to trim it out so it gets off the ground. Also what throttle to take off with looked like 75% or higher
Hey it s maybe the speed that made that weird thing u said. This craft might have a high stall speed
That was sick!!! I put one in the shopping basket already!!
Nothing like the screaming sound of a wing on 4S with a tri-blade in the morning. BTW: Tip stall. You are going too slow. Open up the throttle.
Awesome video! Please more wing videos and builds of them, I've bought the same wing, cheap and wonderful!! supeerr cool, huge fan of your's, keep the great job!
Was wondering if u had a a stabilizer or flying acro ??? U have to make sure cc is correct. I have Rmrc recruit haven't had time to fly it yet . Wings are cool : )
No FC on board just a pwm receiver controlling the servos.
If the balance point allows it, try to use a lighter battery, this will decrease your stall velocity. The lighter the wing is, the easier it is to fly.
CG is off . It's good to be a little nose heavy but not alot.. Should be a CG Mark on each side of the wings. Put your battery in and move it forward or backward so that it will balance on your finger tips.
Id say move battery forward as its acting very pitch senitive
GREAT video and great to watch some beginner crashes as opposed to FPV racers showing off! Wings are I inherently unstable, are you using inav and a FC in there, I would expect that may help...
I love the adventure without the FC on wings.
use hot glue instead of super glue, and always launch directly into the wind to get better lift upon take off :)
What size battery were you using ??
How much throttle did you have to give? I've tried two launches and they both crashed.
60-70% is enough. Stabilized mode helps a lot because of torque roll.
How long did it take you to learn to fly a wing mate?
Reduce your servo throws to 50 to 60 %. And set your report to 30%. If your servo is weak it will move your control surfaces and cause your wrecks
That feels just like my first wing :-) So hard and so much fun. Check CG! Better nose heavy.
Good stuff! I would like to see more wing action. Hope you get to FPV it.
Other thing on EPP foam, hot glue work great.
Nice one but you should have gone straight to FPV after that first test flight in my opinion!
For your first wing get the 900mm version, it will be more stable and also install a FC with iNAV which will make it easier
I could of installed a FC but I wanted raw controll :)
Bigger is easier. I have the small one too and it's so fast and small it gets out of sight really quickly and you lose orientation easily. It's really not made for LOS but for FPV.
I went from drones and my first fixed wing was an s800 reptile...fucking awesome. I was flying for so long I got bored.
I think it has high stall speed, you must keep the speed in corners. That is the reason for strange behaviour. Best way is to fly fpv until you are confident in flying this little thing
Give us the slo mo disintegrating foam board footage! One of the great things about planes, they crash spectacularlty direct relationship with their M*V lol
why you simply put in vertical position landed and liftoff?
I love wings too.
I have the S800 V2.
I've already build this kind of plane for the 3rd time now in 2 weeks :-)) keep crashing it at low altitude glide and sudden throttle punch up, it always tend to go nose down every time I do that.
Tip 1: stand on the side of the field with your back to the sun and do laps over the field so you don't lose orientation being blinded...
Those flying wings are notoriously unstable, they are not a good starter model to learn to fly RC aircraft. Flying RC models is nothing like flying quads at all in that you should not do quick stick movements like you have to with a quad, quick stick movements introduce aerodynamic instability and yes a minimum throttle can induce a stall.
I came to quads from RC aircraft, I still have heaps of them that I don't fly because I got bored doing circle laps all the time....
Tip 2: the more wind the more crashes!
Tip 3: Buy lots of glues of different sorts and be prepared to spend countless boring hours repairing broken aircraft.
Repairing these is a lot easier and faster than quads.. I want these with FPV so when i crash all my quads i fly them with the charged batteries and cruise.
Can you recommend glue for these i have no idea which glue to buy im just using super glue.
'Gorilla glue' is excellent on foam. I don't know what else it is called around the world (just google it), but it is a water activated glue which expands as it dries so good for filling gaps too. Hot glue works well on foam and can used on the field, sets pretty quickly. Finally epoxy is the strongest but is a pig to use and heavy. Superglue is fine in some situations but very brittle.
Hot glue works well but adds a lot of weight and can throw off the balance.
Its ok if used sparingly.
Don't let people tell you that you can't learn on wings. They are much easier to fly then 4-6 channel planes. I learned on wings from Crash Test Hobby, they are strong and fly really well. For the wing you have you will want to use welders glue. Make sure to clean the mold release from the foam with alcohol before applying the glue. You could use hot glue, it's what I use most often.
As for tip you are flying a little to fast, you need time to get the reaction reflex down before you go ape shit. I know it's fun to hit those high speeds but what you want is more fly time and less repair time.
Also after watching the rest of the video I noticed you just have the battery placed in the bay. You need to secure it with a strap or Velcro.
If it moves back and changes your center of gravity becoming tail heavy (which you weren't checking) you will nose in like that every time.
I have drone parts to trade for wings! I need a wing!
if I were to guess what is happening with the crashes. I would guess it's the cheap plastic servos that they use. My first upgrade was to upgrade to Full Metal servos
Nah.. Compared to MG servos, plastic gear servos just break their gears a lot easier with crashes. They perform fine otherwise.
I can't tell but I assume it's rolling over on You? (I'm a sponsored 3d heli pilot and fly planes of all type but big in to large scale 3D planes) if it's rolling on you in a turn what is happening is likely when you are pulling back on the stick to turn you need differential dialed in your radio ... how to tell if that's what's happened fly level and pull back on the stick and if the nose pulls up and rolls one way or the other when you are just pulling back on the stick that's what you need. The more you pull back the more it wants to roll in a direction well it takes some radio adjustments to stop it or know how to fly around it... if it does that and that's prolly it when you are banked and start pulling back to turn the wing will roll just as it does when you are level and pull back. If it's in the same direction you are already banked and you don't know how to fly around it it can cause the plane to roll and nose,down quickly. A LOT of smaller sub 34 inch wings will do it to the left.
Wings are highly sensitive to CG, small wings even worse. Make it slightly nose heavy to start. Put in 50% expo.
Tip stalling because it's to nose heavy
You need to throw it against the wind not with it
I did that today it worked I think.. i will have a vid on it tommorow.
nice little wing
Is it me or is the propeller set backwards?
Nice fly
If you crash it and Break it on your first flight ! ... I ain't Buying It ! Cheers !
Damn, I've been wanting to try fix wing, but.......maybe not.
Ok you are like i was before, YOU CAN'T FLY LINE OF SIGHT
I can now for longer than 2 min but I just go FPV.
If you learn how to fly line of sight it's gonna be awesome for you. I was struggling a lot but now its better then Fpv
Put a flight controller inside with gps + liion batteries 18650 and let's go for long range , go go go 😃
The 600mm version won’t really work, used the 900mm version.
does the FC help against stalls?
@@ChrisCroft There are vids of long range with the small 600mm. 20Km: ruclips.net/video/XbcLv5EBSRQ/видео.html
Also 1 hour+ flying time with a big 3s liion.
doing great.... a helluva lot beteer than i can fly los lol
Thanks
Running slow and turning causes tipstall on wings
Yeah, throw in some fpv gear
Fun😎
Humm...a bit of sim time in order sir..lol
Visit the nearest model flying club. They vill probably gladly help you get the cg rigtht, trim it up, get decent rates on the rudders. After that you have a slight possibility to keep it en the air for more than one minute :-)
Your CG is completely wrong
Looks super nose heavy. CG is way off.
FIRST!
Dam those wings are hella tough. Try hat with your quad at the same speed and I guarantee your quad would be scattered is pieces.
You only saw 4 I crashed over 30