That reminds me how I, a Beatles fan, always giggle when someone says "I listen to old music too - like, even the 90's!" (Just to be clear, I don't consider *my* music particularly old, I keep in mind classical stuff too.)
@@vaclav_fejt try listening to some old Mozart played with harpsichord instead of piano. It’s wild and more like rag-time jazz then it has any reason to be expected.
@@vaclav_fejt Most of Mozart's works were written for the harpsichord. The rest was for the "proto-piano" called the fortepiano. It was the new "hot" thing. Even so Mozart did like to write his music for the harpsichord.
@@davidmiller9485 it doesn’t even sound like the same music to those of us without the ear for music. It’s kinda discordant and the creepy to brightness effects are very interesting.
I was at a gun show last Saturday and when I got home I watched a C&Rsenal video and had to question whether or not i saw Othais at the show. So Othais if it was you who gave brief advice about a carcano to some random guy last weekend it was me and I thank you 🙏
I have to admit that I'm kinda disappointed that the patented plastic pokey hasn't made an appearance. You've gone all big time with a fancy brass pokey now.
As an Air Force Weapons Instructor back when we still carried wheel guns, I've been into the guts of an S&W Model 15 and 10. Amazed to see the differences in many of these others you've shown here. It also answered some of the questions I'd always had about some of the internal parts and why they were designed the way they were.
I was just rewatching the old “101” videos earlier today and was thinking to myself, “I can’t wait to see what they do next.” Thanks again, for all you do.
@@jonrolfson1686 No, that is the only reason why we are glad he didn't, I got mercy for folks that get fine points wrong (as long as they ain't snobby about it, but people that don't even think to try, let them be flogged outta town, haha
Y'all were worried what happens once Crozier has to retire from his role as mascot, but there's a ton of people already losing it because the patented plastic pokey was replaced. I can see now why you were worried.
I am a Gunsmith, and while I won't likely learn anything new at my current stage, I can confidently agree. I believe that this channel is a great resource for learning gun designs generally. If I could go back in time with videos from this channel and give it to younger me I would.
The top comment on the remake gewehr 98 video is someone saying just that- 2 videos are recommended course material for a gunsmithing course somewhere.
@@SageGunsmithusing these videos for this very purpose. This is way more complicated than everyone thinks. It's amazing gunsmiths don't make much money.
I've been tossing around in my head the idea of the most elegant but feature-rich gate-loader possible; Abadie system, single v-spring for hammer, arm and trigger, cylinder stop both ways, hammer rebound, toolless, no small parts disassembly, etc. Conversely, I've also been thinking of the most overcomplicated gate-loader possible, with automatic ejection, gas seal, semi-auto operation and other such lunacy. Because I'm weird like that.
Yeah, I been trying to think up a viable, semi auto BP, but center fired brass cartridge thingy, preferably like a carbine/universal rifle length, really hard to do, haha. It’d have to be centered on a long recoil action at heart, cause the whole powder fouling thing, especially when exposed to extra air as it’s still burning, it’d need a delay system too for unlocking and cycling the bolt, along with some kind of bore evacuator like tanks…that could be cleaned with the throw of a spring loaded lever, so it would work….so complicated. Think I got it worked out, just need to draw up and think more, make a basic, non firing model, to test various parts.
Thank God for C&Rsenal, my workday started with one of those "We just remembered that this needed to happen last friday" assignments, it's going to be much more bearable now.
My man, once every few years there's a video that somehow gets me to leave a comment, and this time it's this one, because holy crap is it a good one! Dude, this is mastercrafted and extremely educative, thank you.
I've been watching C&Rsenal for nearly half a decade now and more than anything, I think this series has gotten me from an non-wheelgat kinda guy into the sort of person who would love to own a Smith & Wesson No.3 or a Type 26. So thank you for giving me an entirely new perspective on things I previously dismissed as uninteresting.
Me, who studied gunsmithing: Bro, I can literally write out a step-by-step flow chart if how every part moves, when it moves, what it interacts with, and how it interacts with it. Also me: But do continue. Ive devoted 2 hours to this, id watch you describe rations for 2 hours. :)
I've had a love affair with revolvers since 1973, when I was issued a S&W double action .357 magnum with a 5 inch barrel. I could hit the black with every shot on a silhouette target at 25 paces without aiming. It was a pleasure to shoot. My second gun was a 1911 Colt. I loved that too. I bought my first single action 1873 Army revolver with a 6 inch barrell 30 years ago and I love it because of it extremely light trigger pull. These days, I have 30 revolvers, the oldest being an 1861 Army percussion in .44 caliber, and I like them all for different reasons. Nothing beats the feel of a revolver. I keep two at my bedside along with two semiautos in .45 cal (and a 12 gauge tactical pump sbotgun). I'm definitely fond of revolvers!
He said "not exhaustive" not "not extensive", huge difference. Thus the 2 hour run time and leaving the possibility for more on the subject in subsequent episodes. I'm hoping for episodes on each individual example. I can't stay for the entire video right now but just the first 30 minutes answered a bunch of questions I have had about the function of my French '73 MAS Ordinance revolver. I will get back later to finish watching.
You know Othais, for someone who claims to spend all their time researching while Mae does the shooting you have a very broad spectrum of experience to call upon when describing all the different revolvers. That is some book you read! :-) A superb programme that illustrates the ingenuity of gunsmiths working to constantly improve. Thank you very much; I learned so much from this.
Listning to the podcast, and hearing something like - "oh we will just do a quick revolver overview, because its kind of easy an quick to do" Clicking on the video and seeing 2h+ playtime... priceless^^ Thank you
I really appreciate all the time and effort that you guys put into the videos, I have always loved revolvers, the first time I fired a gun was my dad's police service revolver, since then they have been my favorite
I had been thinking about how little I really understood the inner workings of revolvers not long before this episode was published. Very helpful and informative, as always.
It’s truly amazing when you see the inner workings of some of these revolvers and realize that they are well over 100+ yrs old and still functioning like clockwork. 🤠 There is no school like old school. Excellent video!
Im excited you guys are doing another long form "101" video, as these are very helpful and accessible to teach things ive always wanted to know. If I could provide a suggestion, with this video at 2 hours of runtime, it might be helpful to have time stamps for different topics in the video description once it goes live. This will translate to visible sections on the tIme bar at the bottom of the video. I really enjoyed your video on bolt actions, and that video along with this one could be more accessible with the timestamps.
what i find interesting is that contrary to Google, These long videos are worth the watch and so we watch them, regardless of length. Just proves the point that if the video has interesting content the length doesn't really matter.
1:59:35 The "extra" weight of the dragoon was necessary because of the state of metallurgy technology of that day. The black powder charge was more powerful than a modern 44 magnum. Even with all that 'extra' meat the guns still had a habit of blowing apart. Not until the 1860 model did the metallurgy improve so a smaller size cylinder and barrel could be used.
uh, no, it isn’t. a colt dragoon is not even close to as powerful as a 44 mag. it’s at around 500 ft lbs of energy at max charge of 50 grains of FFF. a .357 can do much more than 500 ft lbs, and a .44 can more than DOUBLE that 500 ft lbs, and some loads can almost TRIPLE that energy. for a black powder gun the dragoon and walker are powerful sure, but not even remotely close to a .44 mag much less more powerful than one.
The 'secret' pistol that comes apart so sleekly and easily looks like it would be fun just to field strip and put back together again. The sheer amount of cleverness and engineering in that is amazing!
@@keithklassen5320 😁 I came looking for this comment. Sarcasm may be the poorest form of wit , but nobody ever said it can't be classy ; also, it takes incredible intellect to walk that fine line.
As to your question at the end. I would adopt the Smith and Wesson 66 combat magnum. It is literally the best revolver I have ever shot. I trust my life to it every day. It works and always has.
I have always liked revolvers, but now you have led me into wanting some antique ones that I knew nothing about before. A French one, a Bodeo, and Abadie to start with. This episode was awesome. Thanks for all your hard work.
Revolvers are maybe easier to use, so long as nothing goes wrong, but every single part in one is doing three jobs at once, and more than half of them are there to work around the problems discovered with the previous attempt. The sheer complexity and the elegance of the engineering in them is staggering, and they're much harder to get right than a semi-auto. I have a whole new appreciation for just how impressive revolvers are as feats of design and manufacturing.
Brilliant. An amazing episode on history and very well organized. You are a great teacher. This helped me understand why my Taurus 856 would rotate backwards causing the cylinder to repeatedly hit the same chamber due to weight of unfired rounds. It was an issue of the cylinder stop functioning too late in the process and was resolved with a change in geometry. Still working on the function of the hand
This is the 3rd time ive watched this whole thing end to end and i have to say that even the stuff i already knew or thought i knew is put forth in such a clear but thought prevoking way, i hope c&rsenal continues for many many yeears to come. If i had any disposable income you would be first on my list to support. So lacking that here is a comment and if i could like it again i would. Thank you for all your hard work.
Love seeing all the parts & how they interact. When I was 6 or 7, my dad's wind-up alarm clock stopped working. The only tools i had were a hammer, screwdriver & pliers. Disassembly took a few days, reassembly never happened.
What a brilliant video! I've been collecting revolvers for 50+ years, and still I've learnt a lot from it! Never too old etc.! Nice to see the New South Wales Government Enfield @ 1:21:32 in the collection; wish I had one! Cheers from South Australia.
WHAT AM ABSOLUTE BELTER OF A VIDEO , IN IRELAND AND UK , KINDA MEANS THE SAME AS AWESOME...Bro can you please explain how the ROUND MAG actually turns via a trigger pull ??, I have to say the level of detail you have gone to on the is mind blowing and have never watched a video so enjoyable about revolvers as you hit the nail on the head there is no one out there really going into to so much detail or the dept of the historic value and references to the designs and owners and of course the location it was made in , but the history itself is really cool mate , hats of too you and your team that did all this mega homework on the revolver world, id imagine not the easiest thing to research as the info is not really out there , or is it out there and no one has really put it altogether into a presentation as such like what you have done here , like I said a round of applause from me to you sir and anyone else that helped research this stuff , I thoroughly enjoyed this for real , please please keep you awesome content coming, it seem like there is always some sort of surprise with each and every episode I watch of this channel hence been a big fan now , and btw Greetings and a very Happy Newyear to you Sir and all your gang there at C&Rsenal from all the way from west coast Ireland , I would also like to wish all your viewers throughout the world the exact same greetings and blessings, Take now you hear , and if you get a chance to answer my question that be awesome , PS......Wouldn't it be embarrassing if he did answer that question somewhere along the way through this video , id be delighted if it were the case , but it would definitely make me look like a muppet for sure seen that I'm only just as we speak at 20:28 of the video !!! ah well I hope he does explain it , I don't care who thinks I'm a nob-head after all !!! EDIT :.............BOOOOOOOOM !!! So as per damn usual i spoke too soon LITTERLY 2MINUTES & 1 SECOND later my answer appears in its very own sub category sheeeeesssshhhhh!!!! ....i can just see my pops looking at me now smirking and without saying anything he would give me that smurk and that i told you so son look !!!, just to say HOW MANY TIMES DID I TELL YOU!!!! WAIT TILL YA KNOW ALL THE FACTS BEFORE OPEN UP YOUR BIG FAT GOB SON , HIS ALWAYS DAMN RIGHT ...!!! SMMMMMH !!!!!!!!
dude.... as someone who is autistic and wants to know the smallest details in ways most people won't ever notice, and wants to learn as much as possible about things that interest me, i must say this video truly is on a whole other level of special and informative. amazing job.
Well I’ve just been to revolver school. All the bits to make a revolvers timing and trigger work is quite amazing. I’m just thankful I have a modern “evolved” revolver to work with.
Very impressive! All of the promises and hype from SCAR, ACR, and even the Desert Tech bullpup. PWS has always made high quality stuff, but this amount of attention to detail and engineering is truly impressive. I’ve always steered clear of the multi-caliber concept, but this has my full attention. Looking forward to seeing more!
I'm sending this video to anyone that says a revolver is simpler than a modern semi-automatic. I can appreciate these old guns for their history and mechanism, but good lord do all the little bits and boops make me afraid of my carpet.
I don't mind a machine being complex to cleaned maintain. But on the few occasions I've handled an automatic pistol I felt like I was wrangling a drunk typewriter full of TNT. Revolvers feel as comfortable as an old pipe.
I would love to see you do a mechanical function breakdown of a Chiappa Rhino, in direct comparison with other more common and historical revolver designs. The inside of that thing is absolutely whacky, and it deserves the quality of deep-dive that you do in a way nobody else does.
So I'm less than 8 mins into the video, and I'm going to make the prediction that this is going to be one of those things where you spend the whole lesson thinking "yes, I already know this", but only when you get to the end do you realise that 99% of all the learning was totally new to you, and you didn't even realise that you were learning new stuff! I've always thought that to be the hallmark of a good teacher.
This is one of the most well done videos I have ever watched. Very much enjoyed start to finish. Rewatched a few parts sometimes multiple times. It was well presented the engineering in some of these revolvers is hard to follow and truly amazing. Fun to see all the many ways people all over the world were approaching the same design concept category. I really love those swing out side plates that stay attached. Amazing! So much of this is purely amazing
Thank goodness, I've had countless arguments about the complexity of revolvers compared to autoloaders on a certain basket weaving forum. The reliability from a revolver doesn't come from its simplicity, it comes from its complexity. It also helps that it pawns off the task of loading and unloading cartridges on the user, which for the most part is where most pistol malfunctions lie. Now I can link this video and I'm certain they'll watch the entire two hours like I did.
Revolvers also derive the energy to operate the action via muscle power (be it thumb or trigger finger) while autoloaders depend on energy from a successful shot to work in the next shot.
2:09:00 basically a mataba in 454 casull but with the disassembly and trigger from the bodeo a small thig to brace your hand against (like 2/5 of a trigger guard), eagle (or something like that I forgot the name) grip and an adapter set to change the size of the rounds
I can not describe how giddy I feel whenever you guys post followed by just how naive I feel when I realize that for all of my gun history knowledge it is still quite full of holes even in the basic things.
2h 08m 55s: What revolver would you own or what combination of elements would I pick for my perfect wheeled pocket bang stick ? Combo: Low barrelled K-frame in 7.62 Tokarev or 7.63 Mauser Off the shelf: K-frame in either 7.62 Tokarev or 7.63 Mauser Maybe not the most overly imaginative combo revolver, however I feel it is probably about the best combination of existing design elements available. I also have ideas for a top hinged hammer or a striker that could help with the ergonomics
Thanks for the great video, this sort of detailed explanation is very useful for those without any firearms experience like me. I’m pleased to see my patreon money is being put to use! I can’t speak for anyone else but I’d love to see more ‘deep dive’ videos like this covering areas that a touched on in your primer episodes but not fully explored. Things like important conflicts such as the Siege of Plevna, biographies of important gun designers or the histories of some of the major arms companies. I know a lot of it has been covered in individual episodes but it might be interesting (and fairly easy) to pull everything together into one video where you can also cover any extra details that previously had to be left out.
"Rotation..." 4:47 I'm assuming that Lockup is part of that? You can see the hand, and the ratchet at the back of the cylinder (If it swings out, breaks open, or is removable with the cylinder pin.) and the cylinder stops etched in the side. However, the mechanism that actually catches, and holds the individual charge-holes in-line with the barrel is extremely precise. It has to be, regulated for every charge hole, to prevent shaving off crescents of lead with the forcing cone, and changing the accuracy, of every charge-hole. Think about that: In a 6 shooter, ever shot has to line up with the sites, just like the other 5 shots, every time the cylinder revolves, and stops. Also, that device is in the bottom strap, usually with components of the trigger group. That's absolutely unique to revolvers.
I was at a gun show where an old dude (gun seller) said, "See that exit sign across the room? Close your eyes and point this old colt at it. Now open your eyes." The sights were dead on the sign. That's ergonomics.
But you try that excercise with any revolver the result will mostly be the same. It has more to do with biology , and little to do with ergonomics . Do try it. It's fun. We used to do it all the time... (Not to be taken literary )
Fun fact, in some countries I think the double action mechanism is actually thought of as a triple action, where the actions of cocking the hammer, rotating the cylinder and releasing the hammer are all separate. I think this would technically be a more accurate description, since there are revolvers with two separate triggers, one which acts to cock and cycle and one which actually releases.
Triple action has been used before to refer to DA/SA guns as opposed to DAO. I think the issue with considering cocking the hammer and rotating the cylinder to be two separate actions is that you are then stuck calling single actions “double action”. That would get confusing fast.
I love this! Thank you! Also, for ideal fantasy revolver, an Italian Chamelot delvigne with bodeo internals, and the ejector housing or abadie system tweaked so they align properly, having a spring in the ejector like the colt 1873 to speed things up, and beef up that cylinder to chamber something a little more potent. At first I thought .44-40 or .45 LC, but the French and Italians clearly valued follow ups, so maybe .38-40, for a nice compromise.
I find these "basic concepts" type videos fascinating. They remind me of what I have forgotten and fill me in on things I have missed. Also, what is is a basic concept to Othias is not necessarily basic for me. The video may be a bit short but it's better than nothing! :D
Ahhhh, time for a good, relaxing, historical lecture. THANKS C&R!! 😍 "This Ep will _not_ be exhaustive." (Checks runtime of 2 hrs 10 min.) Please, sir, I'd like some more.
I really am enamored with the concept of the semi-auto revolver, that's why I really want to get my hands on a Unica 6 revolver just to look at it and play around with it.
I used to dislike revolvers generally. I am a gunsmith and never cared for them, but I got to work on an OG Colt Python that was heavily mistreated by a police armorer and was very unsafe. I had to replace the hand, the rebound lever, fit the trigger and hammer, and bolt. I can say I understand revolvers very well now simply because of that colt python. 10/10
The revolver at 7:17, if you manage to not shoot yourself pulling and cocking it. Does it do more than piss somebody off, if they are more than 5 foot away?
Directly to your question about features or what would I want in a revolver, I have to say that Ruger has done it with the LCR and LCRx series. The triggers are to die for right out of the box. After some dry firing they are almost blissful. The weight is great given the barrel inserts and the lighter frames. With the swing out cylinders, cleaning is easy and the rear sights on the LCRx are adjustable along with a front sight that can be exchange out with a simple punch. Then there is the price which for me is affordable if I save my coffee and beer money. I have found them to be especially comfortable to shoot with 38 special wad cutters. This barrel lengths are 2 and 3 inches which makes them especially great for carry. I don't subscribe to the idea that revolvers are especially more reliable that a good semi-auto pistol, but I do think that ammo issues are easier to resolve. Thanks for a great introduction to the design history of the revolver.
I was looking for a video I can fall asleep too (in a good way). This video will do very well in that task. I fall asleep best to audio centric videos that revolve (pun) around something I'm interested in.
The revolver, like the bolt-action rifle of the 19th century, represents the spirit of an era. Rotating the magazine of the revolver is like pulling the bolt of a rifle, which is extremely elegant. If I were to choose between Colt M1911 automatic pistol and M1860 or M1873 revolver, I would definitely choose revolver
I love revolvers i have 2 smith and wessons made before ww2. Both 4th change models a 4 inch 38 special and a 5 inch 38 s&w. A 67 colt diamondback new production Anaconda. And two bfr's in 450 marlin and 500 mag, an old model ruger super blackhawk.
"The effects on a human body are ergonomic too, but they interact with the body at much higher speeds." Wow. That was good.
My erection at this statement is both professional and palpable.
'More recent gun, like this Bodeo.'
I'll take 'Phrases that can only been said on C&Rsenal, Alex.'
That reminds me how I, a Beatles fan, always giggle when someone says "I listen to old music too - like, even the 90's!"
(Just to be clear, I don't consider *my* music particularly old, I keep in mind classical stuff too.)
@@vaclav_fejt try listening to some old Mozart played with harpsichord instead of piano. It’s wild and more like rag-time jazz then it has any reason to be expected.
@@john-paulsilke893 I will, thanks for the tip. :)
@@vaclav_fejt Most of Mozart's works were written for the harpsichord. The rest was for the "proto-piano" called the fortepiano. It was the new "hot" thing. Even so Mozart did like to write his music for the harpsichord.
@@davidmiller9485 it doesn’t even sound like the same music to those of us without the ear for music. It’s kinda discordant and the creepy to brightness effects are very interesting.
I was at a gun show last Saturday and when I got home I watched a C&Rsenal video and had to question whether or not i saw Othais at the show. So Othais if it was you who gave brief advice about a carcano to some random guy last weekend it was me and I thank you 🙏
Yeah man.
I have to admit that I'm kinda disappointed that the patented plastic pokey hasn't made an appearance. You've gone all big time with a fancy brass pokey now.
I'm sure it's for environmental reasons ^^
"You've gone all big time with a fancy brass pokey now."
You mean his Pointy Pick Pokey?
I have to put my patented plastic pokey tee shirt up for sale.
We will know he has hit the big time when he has a diamond encrusted platinum pokey.
Yep high tech and won't scratch just like the plastic pokey.
As an Air Force Weapons Instructor back when we still carried wheel guns, I've been into the guts of an S&W Model 15 and 10. Amazed to see the differences in many of these others you've shown here. It also answered some of the questions I'd always had about some of the internal parts and why they were designed the way they were.
Colt Viper anyone? Anyone?
@@michaelrobbins6694how 'bout a .22 rimfire Copperhead?
I was just rewatching the old “101” videos earlier today and was thinking to myself, “I can’t wait to see what they do next.” Thanks again, for all you do.
Ooo ok
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Is that a Scott pilgrim pfp?
If only Browning would have made a revolver design so everything could be based on it. Then we would only need to know one :p
And all of the embarrassment saved for historians and writers of fiction who have regularly referred in published works to ’Browning revolvers.’
@@jonrolfson1686 No, that is the only reason why we are glad he didn't, I got mercy for folks that get fine points wrong (as long as they ain't snobby about it, but people that don't even think to try, let them be flogged outta town, haha
Y'all were worried what happens once Crozier has to retire from his role as mascot, but there's a ton of people already losing it because the patented plastic pokey was replaced. I can see now why you were worried.
Y'all can NOT do this to me this late. I've got to sleep.
Sleep is for the weak! And people who have jobs...
However for people like me, who only works nights, it's perfect!
I feel like this could be shown in a college or vocation gunsmithing course. Thanks Othias and Mae appreciate your hard work.
I am a Gunsmith, and while I won't likely learn anything new at my current stage, I can confidently agree. I believe that this channel is a great resource for learning gun designs generally. If I could go back in time with videos from this channel and give it to younger me I would.
The top comment on the remake gewehr 98 video is someone saying just that- 2 videos are recommended course material for a gunsmithing course somewhere.
@@ericmckinley7985❤❤
@@SageGunsmithusing these videos for this very purpose. This is way more complicated than everyone thinks. It's amazing gunsmiths don't make much money.
@@SageGunsmith друже привет.если не трудно порекомендуй какие металические смазки лучше использовать в процессе дорнирования ????
I've been tossing around in my head the idea of the most elegant but feature-rich gate-loader possible; Abadie system, single v-spring for hammer, arm and trigger, cylinder stop both ways, hammer rebound, toolless, no small parts disassembly, etc.
Conversely, I've also been thinking of the most overcomplicated gate-loader possible, with automatic ejection, gas seal, semi-auto operation and other such lunacy. Because I'm weird like that.
Mateba Sei Unica for the win.
I think the Rast and Gasser is probably the most feature rich gate loader.
Yeah, I been trying to think up a viable, semi auto BP, but center fired brass cartridge thingy, preferably like a carbine/universal rifle length, really hard to do, haha. It’d have to be centered on a long recoil action at heart, cause the whole powder fouling thing, especially when exposed to extra air as it’s still burning, it’d need a delay system too for unlocking and cycling the bolt, along with some kind of bore evacuator like tanks…that could be cleaned with the throw of a spring loaded lever, so it would work….so complicated. Think I got it worked out, just need to draw up and think more, make a basic, non firing model, to test various parts.
Thank God for C&Rsenal, my workday started with one of those "We just remembered that this needed to happen last friday" assignments, it's going to be much more bearable now.
My man, once every few years there's a video that somehow gets me to leave a comment, and this time it's this one, because holy crap is it a good one! Dude, this is mastercrafted and extremely educative, thank you.
I've been watching C&Rsenal for nearly half a decade now and more than anything, I think this series has gotten me from an non-wheelgat kinda guy into the sort of person who would love to own a Smith & Wesson No.3 or a Type 26. So thank you for giving me an entirely new perspective on things I previously dismissed as uninteresting.
Me, who studied gunsmithing: Bro, I can literally write out a step-by-step flow chart if how every part moves, when it moves, what it interacts with, and how it interacts with it.
Also me: But do continue. Ive devoted 2 hours to this, id watch you describe rations for 2 hours. :)
I can already tell this is gonna be one of the best videos that comes out of this channel.
I've had a love affair with revolvers since 1973, when I was issued a S&W double action .357 magnum with a 5 inch barrel. I could hit the black with every shot on a silhouette target at 25 paces without aiming. It was a pleasure to shoot. My second gun was a 1911 Colt. I loved that too. I bought my first single action 1873 Army revolver with a 6 inch barrell 30 years ago and I love it because of it extremely light trigger pull. These days, I have 30 revolvers, the oldest being an 1861 Army percussion in .44 caliber, and I like them all for different reasons. Nothing beats the feel of a revolver. I keep two at my bedside along with two semiautos in .45 cal (and a 12 gauge tactical pump sbotgun). I'm definitely fond of revolvers!
You sound like me
Holy shit, what do you need that many guns at your bedside for? Why not just 1 good one
@@eriksunden4704 who needs guns beside your bed when you could have a moat! With hangry crocodiles!! And sharks!!! With lazers!!!!
"This is not be extensive..." - looks at 2+ hour run time... ;)
Reminds me of a Johnny's Reloading Bench video. This will be a short video.......85 minutes later I'm still watching.
He said "not exhaustive" not "not extensive", huge difference. Thus the 2 hour run time and leaving the possibility for more on the subject in subsequent episodes. I'm hoping for episodes on each individual example.
I can't stay for the entire video right now but just the first 30 minutes answered a bunch of questions I have had about the function of my French '73 MAS Ordinance revolver. I will get back later to finish watching.
By C&Rsenal that os par for the course.
You know Othais, for someone who claims to spend all their time researching while Mae does the shooting you have a very broad spectrum of experience to call upon when describing all the different revolvers. That is some book you read! :-) A superb programme that illustrates the ingenuity of gunsmiths working to constantly improve. Thank you very much; I learned so much from this.
Listning to the podcast, and hearing something like - "oh we will just do a quick revolver overview, because its kind of easy an quick to do"
Clicking on the video and seeing 2h+ playtime...
priceless^^
Thank you
I'm guessing the work time to video time ratio is better for this video than the usual Primer episodes.
@@EmyrDerfel I agree - but double the length for perhaps "half the work" is still an impressive ratio ^^
I really appreciate all the time and effort that you guys put into the videos, I have always loved revolvers, the first time I fired a gun was my dad's police service revolver, since then they have been my favorite
I had been thinking about how little I really understood the inner workings of revolvers not long before this episode was published. Very helpful and informative, as always.
Just a casual 2 hour primer on the intricacies of revolvers.
Casual is right. A comprehensive professional brief is going to be 10 hours.
Just bought my first revolver, a Smith and Wesson Pre-Model 10 M&P. I love the look of the M&P and Colt Police Positive.
It is very late so I'm going to watch this tomorrow but I figured I'd do my part for the algorithm.
It’s truly amazing when you see the inner workings of some of these revolvers and realize that they are well over 100+ yrs old and still functioning like clockwork. 🤠 There is no school like old school. Excellent video!
Thanks Othais, I had NEVER even heard of the “pin fire” cartrige/hammer configuration. You’re a SERIOUS wealth of knowledge. Much appreciated!
Im excited you guys are doing another long form "101" video, as these are very helpful and accessible to teach things ive always wanted to know.
If I could provide a suggestion, with this video at 2 hours of runtime, it might be helpful to have time stamps for different topics in the video description once it goes live. This will translate to visible sections on the tIme bar at the bottom of the video.
I really enjoyed your video on bolt actions, and that video along with this one could be more accessible with the timestamps.
what i find interesting is that contrary to Google, These long videos are worth the watch and so we watch them, regardless of length. Just proves the point that if the video has interesting content the length doesn't really matter.
As a revolver fan, this was fantastic! Loved learning some things about my own guns as well as some I wish I had.
The Colt at the 3:00 minute mark….you teasing sons of biscuits!
Also, I think that was my favorite opening of the series.
Some good eye candy there!
Some nice revolver work ASMR in that intro.
1:59:35 The "extra" weight of the dragoon was necessary because of the state of metallurgy technology of that day. The black powder charge was more powerful than a modern 44 magnum. Even with all that 'extra' meat the guns still had a habit of blowing apart. Not until the 1860 model did the metallurgy improve so a smaller size cylinder and barrel could be used.
uh, no, it isn’t. a colt dragoon is not even close to as powerful as a 44 mag. it’s at around 500 ft lbs of energy at max charge of 50 grains of FFF. a .357 can do much more than 500 ft lbs, and a .44 can more than DOUBLE that 500 ft lbs, and some loads can almost TRIPLE that energy. for a black powder gun the dragoon and walker are powerful sure, but not even remotely close to a .44 mag much less more powerful than one.
Because of this video i have also started collecting old revolvers. Getting them to work smoothly is the end game.
The 'secret' pistol that comes apart so sleekly and easily looks like it would be fun just to field strip and put back together again. The sheer amount of cleverness and engineering in that is amazing!
My head exploded somewhere around assembly. I had no idea that there was so much to know.
I like the part with the revolver.
I liked the revolver with parts.
@@keithklassen5320 😁 I came looking for this comment. Sarcasm may be the poorest form of wit , but nobody ever said it can't be classy ; also, it takes incredible intellect to walk that fine line.
This guy hits the highest level of production quality
You can always detect a British author when the book or story states, "The Nazi officer drew his REVOLVER."
You mistake the instinctive reverence the Nazi has for superior British leather and string engineering. Source: Commando comics.
This is absolutely not unique to British authors. Revolver was, for the non-specialist, a synonym in late 19th century and 20th century literature.
Who wrote that?
Goering carried a S&W Model 1905
Maybe the story takes place in 1945 and they were down to Reichsrevolvers?
As to your question at the end. I would adopt the Smith and Wesson 66 combat magnum. It is literally the best revolver I have ever shot. I trust my life to it every day. It works and always has.
I'm gonna have to watch this one a few times to absorb it all. Thanks again for the hard work! I'm proud of how my Patreon funds are being put to use.
I have always liked revolvers, but now you have led me into wanting some antique ones that I knew nothing about before. A French one, a Bodeo, and Abadie to start with. This episode was awesome. Thanks for all your hard work.
Revolvers are maybe easier to use, so long as nothing goes wrong, but every single part in one is doing three jobs at once, and more than half of them are there to work around the problems discovered with the previous attempt. The sheer complexity and the elegance of the engineering in them is staggering, and they're much harder to get right than a semi-auto. I have a whole new appreciation for just how impressive revolvers are as feats of design and manufacturing.
Brilliant. An amazing episode on history and very well organized. You are a great teacher. This helped me understand why my Taurus 856 would rotate backwards causing the cylinder to repeatedly hit the same chamber due to weight of unfired rounds. It was an issue of the cylinder stop functioning too late in the process and was resolved with a change in geometry. Still working on the function of the hand
This is the 3rd time ive watched this whole thing end to end and i have to say that even the stuff i already knew or thought i knew is put forth in such a clear but thought prevoking way, i hope c&rsenal continues for many many yeears to come. If i had any disposable income you would be first on my list to support. So lacking that here is a comment and if i could like it again i would. Thank you for all your hard work.
Love seeing all the parts & how they interact. When I was 6 or 7, my dad's wind-up alarm clock stopped working. The only tools i had were a hammer, screwdriver & pliers. Disassembly took a few days, reassembly never happened.
I’m adding another comment because a video longer then 2hrs deserves more then one comment.
“Ocelots are proud creatures”
"You're pretty good!"
Also crepuscular.
"Mrow(mrow-row-ow)!"
I have it on good authority that they are fox-eared ***holes.
What a brilliant video! I've been collecting revolvers for 50+ years, and still I've learnt a lot from it! Never too old etc.! Nice to see the New South Wales Government Enfield @ 1:21:32 in the collection; wish I had one! Cheers from South Australia.
WHAT AM ABSOLUTE BELTER OF A VIDEO , IN IRELAND AND UK , KINDA MEANS THE SAME AS AWESOME...Bro can you please explain how the ROUND MAG actually turns via a trigger pull ??, I have to say the level of detail you have gone to on the is mind blowing and have never watched a video so enjoyable about revolvers as you hit the nail on the head there is no one out there really going into to so much detail or the dept of the historic value and references to the designs and owners and of course the location it was made in , but the history itself is really cool mate , hats of too you and your team that did all this mega homework on the revolver world, id imagine not the easiest thing to research as the info is not really out there , or is it out there and no one has really put it altogether into a presentation as such like what you have done here , like I said a round of applause from me to you sir and anyone else that helped research this stuff , I thoroughly enjoyed this for real , please please keep you awesome content coming, it seem like there is always some sort of surprise with each and every episode I watch of this channel hence been a big fan now , and btw Greetings and a very Happy Newyear to you Sir and all your gang there at C&Rsenal from all the way from west coast Ireland , I would also like to wish all your viewers throughout the world the exact same greetings and blessings, Take now you hear , and if you get a chance to answer my question that be awesome ,
PS......Wouldn't it be embarrassing if he did answer that question somewhere along the way through this video , id be delighted if it were the case , but it would definitely make me look like a muppet for sure seen that I'm only just as we speak at 20:28 of the video !!! ah well I hope he does explain it , I don't care who thinks I'm a nob-head after all !!!
EDIT :.............BOOOOOOOOM !!!
So as per damn usual i spoke too soon LITTERLY 2MINUTES & 1 SECOND later my answer appears in its very own sub category sheeeeesssshhhhh!!!! ....i can just see my pops looking at me now smirking and without saying anything he would give me that smurk and that i told you so son look !!!, just to say HOW MANY TIMES DID I TELL YOU!!!! WAIT TILL YA KNOW ALL THE FACTS BEFORE OPEN UP YOUR BIG FAT GOB SON , HIS ALWAYS DAMN RIGHT ...!!! SMMMMMH !!!!!!!!
dude.... as someone who is autistic and wants to know the smallest details in ways most people won't ever notice, and wants to learn as much as possible about things that interest me, i must say this video truly is on a whole other level of special and informative. amazing job.
I have a 1903 Mosin Revolver, I don't know how I got so lucky... Thank you guys for giving us a resource for these older firearms!:) Semper Fidelis
gosh this stuff is a great idea and you guys are the perfect channel to do these 101 "courses", keep it up I'll share this as much as I can
Could anyone share the name of Othias' quick-disassembling "secret revolver"?
It's a Levaux from Belgium
0:05:59 mistake I believe. Colt Paterson was 5 shot not 6 if I remember correctly.
Thank you!
Well I’ve just been to revolver school. All the bits to make a revolvers timing and trigger work is quite amazing. I’m just thankful I have a modern “evolved” revolver to work with.
Very impressive! All of the promises and hype from SCAR, ACR, and even the Desert Tech bullpup. PWS has always made high quality stuff, but this amount of attention to detail and engineering is truly impressive. I’ve always steered clear of the multi-caliber concept, but this has my full attention. Looking forward to seeing more!
I'm sending this video to anyone that says a revolver is simpler than a modern semi-automatic. I can appreciate these old guns for their history and mechanism, but good lord do all the little bits and boops make me afraid of my carpet.
I think revolvers are simpler on the outside, but more complicated on the inside.
I don't mind a machine being complex to cleaned maintain. But on the few occasions I've handled an automatic pistol I felt like I was wrangling a drunk typewriter full of TNT. Revolvers feel as comfortable as an old pipe.
I would love to see you do a mechanical function breakdown of a Chiappa Rhino, in direct comparison with other more common and historical revolver designs. The inside of that thing is absolutely whacky, and it deserves the quality of deep-dive that you do in a way nobody else does.
So I'm less than 8 mins into the video, and I'm going to make the prediction that this is going to be one of those things where you spend the whole lesson thinking "yes, I already know this", but only when you get to the end do you realise that 99% of all the learning was totally new to you, and you didn't even realise that you were learning new stuff!
I've always thought that to be the hallmark of a good teacher.
This is one of the most well done videos I have ever watched. Very much enjoyed start to finish. Rewatched a few parts sometimes multiple times. It was well presented the engineering in some of these revolvers is hard to follow and truly amazing. Fun to see all the many ways people all over the world were approaching the same design concept category. I really love those swing out side plates that stay attached. Amazing! So much of this is purely amazing
We should've put a nsfw tag on this, what with all these nude revolvers.
Thank goodness, I've had countless arguments about the complexity of revolvers compared to autoloaders on a certain basket weaving forum. The reliability from a revolver doesn't come from its simplicity, it comes from its complexity. It also helps that it pawns off the task of loading and unloading cartridges on the user, which for the most part is where most pistol malfunctions lie.
Now I can link this video and I'm certain they'll watch the entire two hours like I did.
Revolvers also derive the energy to operate the action via muscle power (be it thumb or trigger finger) while autoloaders depend on energy from a successful shot to work in the next shot.
great content! Favorite moment: "As you see in this more recent gun..." as he demonstrates on a 130 year old revolver. love it.
I don't know why, but I love the little preview intros at the start of videos. Maybe I'm just getting vicarious kinesthetic joy from watching Mae.
i missed this show back when it was released and I am certainly happy YT's recommendations dont totally ignore this channel :)
Yayyyy bedtime stories!!!!
Great use of annotations by the way lol
Othias does have a fairly soothing voice when he's using his teaching tone.
I cant believe i watched a 2 hour video about revolvers all the way through. Well done.
2:09:00 basically a mataba in 454 casull but with the disassembly and trigger from the bodeo a small thig to brace your hand against (like 2/5 of a trigger guard), eagle (or something like that I forgot the name) grip and an adapter set to change the size of the rounds
I can not describe how giddy I feel whenever you guys post followed by just how naive I feel when I realize that for all of my gun history knowledge it is still quite full of holes even in the basic things.
2h 08m 55s: What revolver would you own or what combination of elements would I pick for my perfect wheeled pocket bang stick ?
Combo: Low barrelled K-frame in 7.62 Tokarev or 7.63 Mauser
Off the shelf: K-frame in either 7.62 Tokarev or 7.63 Mauser
Maybe not the most overly imaginative combo revolver, however I feel it is probably about the best combination of existing design elements available. I also have ideas for a top hinged hammer or a striker that could help with the ergonomics
Thanks for the great video, this sort of detailed explanation is very useful for those without any firearms experience like me. I’m pleased to see my patreon money is being put to use!
I can’t speak for anyone else but I’d love to see more ‘deep dive’ videos like this covering areas that a touched on in your primer episodes but not fully explored. Things like important conflicts such as the Siege of Plevna, biographies of important gun designers or the histories of some of the major arms companies. I know a lot of it has been covered in individual episodes but it might be interesting (and fairly easy) to pull everything together into one video where you can also cover any extra details that previously had to be left out.
Brilliantly done!
I will be sharing this video quite a bit, and for quite some time.
"Rotation..." 4:47 I'm assuming that Lockup is part of that? You can see the hand, and the ratchet at the back of the cylinder (If it swings out, breaks open, or is removable with the cylinder pin.) and the cylinder stops etched in the side. However, the mechanism that actually catches, and holds the individual charge-holes in-line with the barrel is extremely precise. It has to be, regulated for every charge hole, to prevent shaving off crescents of lead with the forcing cone, and changing the accuracy, of every charge-hole. Think about that: In a 6 shooter, ever shot has to line up with the sites, just like the other 5 shots, every time the cylinder revolves, and stops. Also, that device is in the bottom strap, usually with components of the trigger group. That's absolutely unique to revolvers.
2 hours of revolver talk. hell yeah i'll watch that
Wow, a "fantastic voyage" into the Revolver with Othais !
a 2 hour C&Rsenal video on everything about revolvers? Yes please!
i think one of my favorite early disassembly procedures was the 1858 remington, what a wonderful way to hide that arbor
I was at a gun show where an old dude (gun seller) said, "See that exit sign across the room? Close your eyes and point this old colt at it. Now open your eyes." The sights were dead on the sign. That's ergonomics.
But you try that excercise with any revolver the result will mostly be the same. It has more to do with biology , and little to do with ergonomics . Do try it. It's fun. We used to do it all the time... (Not to be taken literary )
I see how your content is revolving.
And it blew me away.
Fun fact, in some countries I think the double action mechanism is actually thought of as a triple action, where the actions of cocking the hammer, rotating the cylinder and releasing the hammer are all separate. I think this would technically be a more accurate description, since there are revolvers with two separate triggers, one which acts to cock and cycle and one which actually releases.
Triple action has been used before to refer to DA/SA guns as opposed to DAO. I think the issue with considering cocking the hammer and rotating the cylinder to be two separate actions is that you are then stuck calling single actions “double action”. That would get confusing fast.
I would prefer to call a DAO a "full action" trigger, as it does all the work in driving the mechanism.
1:13:35 is the best overdubbed fix i ever heard. Makes sure you are listening!
I love this! Thank you! Also, for ideal fantasy revolver, an Italian Chamelot delvigne with bodeo internals, and the ejector housing or abadie system tweaked so they align properly, having a spring in the ejector like the colt 1873 to speed things up, and beef up that cylinder to chamber something a little more potent. At first I thought .44-40 or .45 LC, but the French and Italians clearly valued follow ups, so maybe .38-40, for a nice compromise.
The ultimate fantasy revolver already exists .
Mfg 1908- 1915 , with 15,376 produced .
@@filianablanxart8305 triple lock?
Yes , aka New Century
@@filianablanxart8305 thought those numbers sounded familiar
This is an EXCELLENT Presentation ! A lot of valuable information here !!!
I find these "basic concepts" type videos fascinating. They remind me of what I have forgotten and fill me in on things I have missed. Also, what is is a basic concept to Othias is not necessarily basic for me. The video may be a bit short but it's better than nothing! :D
Wow, great deep dive into revolvers. Thanks.
*reads description*
Clearly Othais has a sense of humor.
Further evidenced by "Just for Gun" and my favorite "Ian can't Othias"....
Yes, it would appear so... 👓
Thank you for creating two hours of educational entertainment.
Ahhhh, time for a good, relaxing, historical lecture. THANKS C&R!!
😍
"This Ep will _not_ be exhaustive."
(Checks runtime of 2 hrs 10 min.) Please, sir, I'd like some more.
Magnificent.................well done sir...........well done indeed.
Always appreciate a good revolver.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Best show yet! Great presentation. I'll take a modern pepperpot so I can use it as a doorstop, a paperweight or a bludgeon.
Mr. Othias sir, when is the test being held?
I really am enamored with the concept of the semi-auto revolver, that's why I really want to get my hands on a Unica 6 revolver just to look at it and play around with it.
I used to dislike revolvers generally. I am a gunsmith and never cared for them, but I got to work on an OG Colt Python that was heavily mistreated by a police armorer and was very unsafe. I had to replace the hand, the rebound lever, fit the trigger and hammer, and bolt. I can say I understand revolvers very well now simply because of that colt python. 10/10
The revolver at 7:17, if you manage to not shoot yourself pulling and cocking it. Does it do more than piss somebody off, if they are more than 5 foot away?
Directly to your question about features or what would I want in a revolver, I have to say that Ruger has done it with the LCR and LCRx series. The triggers are to die for right out of the box. After some dry firing they are almost blissful. The weight is great given the barrel inserts and the lighter frames. With the swing out cylinders, cleaning is easy and the rear sights on the LCRx are adjustable along with a front sight that can be exchange out with a simple punch. Then there is the price which for me is affordable if I save my coffee and beer money. I have found them to be especially comfortable to shoot with 38 special wad cutters. This barrel lengths are 2 and 3 inches which makes them especially great for carry.
I don't subscribe to the idea that revolvers are especially more reliable that a good semi-auto pistol, but I do think that ammo issues are easier to resolve.
Thanks for a great introduction to the design history of the revolver.
I have a 8 shot 22 lcr,and a 6 shot lcrx 327 mag their great.
@@joelmclamore1139 Is your LCRx 327 a 2" or 3" revolver? This looks like an interesting option if it can shoot 32 H&R mag as well as 32 S&W long?
I was looking for a video I can fall asleep too (in a good way). This video will do very well in that task. I fall asleep best to audio centric videos that revolve (pun) around something I'm interested in.
The revolver, like the bolt-action rifle of the 19th century, represents the spirit of an era. Rotating the magazine of the revolver is like pulling the bolt of a rifle, which is extremely elegant. If I were to choose between Colt M1911 automatic pistol and M1860 or M1873 revolver, I would definitely choose revolver
I love revolvers i have 2 smith and wessons made before ww2. Both 4th change models a 4 inch 38 special and a 5 inch 38 s&w. A 67 colt diamondback new production Anaconda. And two bfr's in 450 marlin and 500 mag, an old model ruger super blackhawk.