Babylon 5: Omega Class Destroyer - Spacedock
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- Spacedock returns to Babylon 5 for a look at the iconic Omega Class Destroyer.
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Apologies if the audio is a bit weird around the start, still getting used to my new microphone. :)
Hi, can you do some ships and battles from a the Legend of Galactic Heroes series too?
If you haven't watched the series, you can watch a sample here:
ruclips.net/video/M1-8rwZvftk/видео.html
Finally! I wanted a video on this ship for so long, its one of my favorite " brick in space" designs in any sci fi.
that's cool, it's not that bad, just a hint of echo (and slightly less bass) is all.
Id really like to hear about the Warlock Class destroyer from B5.
Any chance of doing the Shadow Technology Version of the Omega Class Destroyer?
The most human ship ever. "You won't share your fancy artificial gravity with us? Fine. We'll build a brick. With ludicrous amounts of lasers. Fuck your fancy gravity."
absolutely, best youtube comment i've read in ages
"How many guns should we try and mount?"
"All. All of the guns."
Nova class dreadnought: Beg pardon?
We shall spin the center too. Take that older races!!
Lol awsome comment, and accurate. Love the Omega class: the brick with ludicrous amounts of lasers.
- Bring us closer to the enemy.
- How close?
- Right down their throats.
- Where's General Hague?
- General Hague... is doing Deep Space 9. His agent double-booked him and there was nothing to be done.
That was a badass moment
Babylon 5 is still one of the best Sci-Fi Series of all time...
You are sooooo right!
Lst Dave
40k says otherwise
I have to agree with you on that
Amazing attention to detail. I have heard that NASA engineers say they looked into the starfury design concept seriously when planning for future projects as it has real world possibilities with existing technology(minus the weaponry).
Simon says bloody to right
It was the ultra realistic earth alliance ships that initially got me hooked on this show. But it wasn’t until about halfway through season 2 when I realised that I was actually watching an epic. Brilliant show that actually really helped me get through a rough time in my life…..
"We are not some deep-space franchise, this station has a purpose." Susan Ivanova
R.I.P to all Babylon 5 cast that have passed away.
Richard Biggs, Jef Conaway, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jerry Doyle, Michael O'Hare... :-(
UPD: And very recently Mira Furlan :-(
Thank you for all the amazing moments that I had during watching this amazing sci-fi series.
Erm..Peter Jurasik is still alive?
Yeah Peter Jurasik is still around and kicking.
And Tim Choate who played Zathras. (also Peter Jurasik is stil alive and fine)
Also Ron Thornton who did the CGI.
Jurasic actually did the audiobook reading for JMS’s recent autobiography, “Becoming Superman” released in the last month or so
For a show that is not really *that* old, the amount of attrition (death) among the cast and crew is astonishingly high.
As Babylon5 is generally forgotten nowadays, every piece of video here is a bliss.
Also, great job on the video.
why I treasure my 5 season DVD collection.
The Omega-class Destroyer to date remains one of my absolute favorite starship designs.
Me too
I miss Babylon 5
Me too. One of the best and underrated SF series. That's why I constantly promote B5.
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Nice one there MR Clarke.
This is still my favorite space warship design!
JcoreUKhardcore, Mine to, it looks like something we could have in a few years.
I totally agree! When I first saw it in the TV series it looked exactly like I always imagined a space battleship/carrier to look like. It was the ship designs and the fact that they actually made the effort to have proper zero/g manoeuvring that got me hooked on this show. Props to the Expanse for stepping up and going down the same path…
@@planetdisco4821 After 3 years from my previous comment: still the best, nothing changed!
The omega class destroyer and the jupiter class battlestar are my two favorite... and what I think would be reasonable designs for us.. not super beyond our current tech. Aside from the energy weapons.. the kews however we can do.. an omega with just missiles and kews/ciws..
There is just something so awesome about the Omega class Destroyer. Like the Nova class Dreadnought. It’s a great design.
They look heavy and robust, like a proper workhorse, that's how us humans like to do things.
Amazing video!!! Keep up the good work!!!
I love Babylon 5 ships...Please do a video about the Warlock Advanced Destroyer!!!
yes!!! Warlock-class please
Warlock class needs a video!!!
Definitely need one for the Warlock!
I love Babylon 5 one of the reason is the ships make sense. For example the Omega class destroyer can bring a lot of fire power to a fight but at the cost of being slow. So to compensate they add Fighters. This just goes to show how much thought the creators put into the show.
Omega was supposed to launch her fighters from the rotating sections, their launch ports are at "top" of both sections. But I think it was due to the budget that they simply reused the footage of Omega "vomiting" Furies from the front bay.
@Alex Hurlbut Yes that's absolutely correct. Shame cos it would have been awesome to see Cobra Bays on the Omega.
I think the Omega was the very first ship I ever saw in any sci-fi that had a rotating habitation section for gravity, B5 in fact being the second Sci-fi I ever saw that had realistic spaceship physics, the very first realistic spaceship physics I ever saw being in the 80's animated series Starcom.
If rewach the show as I am now you can see the budget at but the show is still good. I wish they could remaster the show.
Battlestar Galactica also had realistic space physics. Another iconic show.
FINALLY!!!! The Omega-class gets some love from Spacedock!!!
great job!
36 STAR FURIES now thats killer Bees protecting the hive.
A Star Destroyer carries 72 TIEs, and SSD 144.
Well, the Nimitz is built with the idea to be a full Carrier. The Omega class. A bit less so. The turrets and their support equipment need space as well inside the hull, and thats not little space.
For the setting, where there aren't really any dedicated carriers, 36 is quite a few fighters. The Omega, like most other ships in its weight range, on B5, is a battleship first and a carrier second. Probably a necessity of design in a setting where ships can pop out of hyperspace a few hundred meters away from you.
Not sure where you're getting that size comparison from. The Galaxy-class Enterprise is about a third the length of an Omega. The original Constitution class Enterprise clocks in at around a sixth of the length, going off official numbers. Of course, B5 and Star Trek both had some profound scaling inconsistencies.
Supposedly, the Executor can carry several thousand TIEs at full load, but only had 144 at Endor. Though I have no idea if that's based on canon or just fan speculation.
This ship is a bit bigger than a Star Destroyer (100m give or take), got forward mounted weapons that just screams at you to get lost or get f'ed up. What's not to love about this ship with such a menacing appereance
edit : and yes, I do like this much more than the warlock class. Dunno why, but I do
Based on the Leonov from 2010: The Year We Made Contact
B5 is still one of my all-time favs in sci-fi. years ahead of it's time! The Omega and White Star is the coolest ships I've ever seen
The white stars looked like a plucked chicken.
Narn heavy cruisers are even cooler, with that huge particle accelerator cannon down the miship. They also have the best paint job ever !
Oh and Shadow ships, so unique !
Starfury,marlin minbari destroyer and omega class is my favorite design in B5
Do one on the Babylon 5 Earth Alliance Warlock class. We saw it just the one little time and it's beauty in functionality.
The Warlock doesn't get enough love. It's still my favourite design out of any sci-fi setting, managing to mix the look of being a bruiser without loosing it's utilitarian sleekness.
Is that Supreme Commander music I hear!? Extra awesomeness to you sir.
I noticed that too. Great stuff.
Man, we need more sci-fi like THIS. I just love the combination of fully Newtonian physics, centrifugal gravity, and FTL. Just because you have a warp drive doesn't mean that F stops equaling m*a.
This made me happy to see but sad that I remembered a good number of actors are dead now.
Awwe yeah, been waiting for this since I first discovered this channel! Also, the SupCom music fits surprisingly well.
Could you do freespace 1&2 ships?, TheCcolossus and Lucifer class in particular
I see the Omega uses a "DX-419" tracking system, an upgrade from the old XP-7 units used during the Minbari War. I wonder if Omegas would be able to track Minbari warships? Earthforce doesn't seem eager to find out...
DrownedInExile
Check out the warlock class destroyer, it was designed after the Earth Alliance Civil War and it went up against and then minbari Cruiser and destroyed it
AFAIK the Omega was specifically developed to counter Sharlins, so i'd expect them to be able to track them. At least it said so in the rulebook of the tabletop game.
NightRaven 1901 also season 2 episode 1.
At least the Whitestars in "No surrender, no retreat" expected to be shot at with a certain degree of accuracy despite their ECM.
Earthforce eventually managed to develop tracking systems that can break through Minbari stealth. However they developed it years after the war, not during. Like Londo Mollari said "They ran out of time". They did have a prototype of the Omega class near the end of the war that was brought into service. They basically just rammed that ship into a Minbari warship.
Here's a bit of information that may or may not be canon as they came more from the defunct Tabletop game. It also may have appeared in the novels as well and there's no official wiki page that has it. Earth Alliance ships also had a defense system known as the E-web along with their Interceptor arrays. The E-web essentially acts like polarised armour from Star Trek. Numerous emitters are fitted across the hull of the ship in grid like patterns, each one creating a small but powerful magnetic bubble that helps defend against plasma and charged particle beams. This greatly enhances the resistance of Earth Alliance ships against standard energy weapons. It was useless against the Minbari however as they used Neutron particles in their weapons, unaffected by the magnetic fields.
HellsRaven4444 loved B5 wars
The magnetic bubbles are not that big, while the hulls are quite thick in comparison being multi-layered and composed a whole slew of materials and composite alloys and such. Here's a page about the armours of Earth Alliance ships before and during the Minbari war.
efni.org/armor.htm
HellsRaven4444 That is correct. The Earth Alliance warships exclusively used the E-Web defense system as a way to nullify energy based attacks while rely on a very sturdy and heavily layered armor playing all over the hull.
This double layered passive defense system gave the EA Navy an edge on durability during the Dilgar War. However, this wasn't enough during the Minbari-Earth War. The Nova Class was the only ship durable enough to take two hits from the neutron beam cannons of the Sharlins while armed enough to damage the Sharlins and Tinashi frigates.
The Omega Class, a derivative of the Nova, was made after that war to counter the Sharlins with an improved E-Web, a stronger hull and armor plating that's applied with a special coating to resist neutron beams. At that point the Minbari stealth system could have been broken or at least partially broken thanks to newer sensors installed on those ships.
I like to think the Warlock Class is the ultimate expression of EA's naval power. It should have far superior E-Web tech plus far superior armor and hull design compared to either the Omega and Nova classes. From what I've read in various sources, especially efni.org, the Warlock Class is a Sharlin-killer.
um, no they weren't, the omega's red lasers weren't even the same strength as mimbari green beams, and shadow purple beams are more powerful than even that
In B5Wars, Earth and Narn heavy lasers hit slightly harder then Minbari neutron lasers, but the Minbari neutron lasers had better fire control, range, rate of fire, and could also fire in piercing mode, where the beam went through the ship, rather then raking the hull. Given its superiority in ECM and sensor capability, the Sharlin usually cuts apart an Omega before it can get in range, though two Omegas can come close to matching a Sharlin one on one if they have Thunderbolts to fight off Minbari Nial heavy fighters.
Spacedock keep up the good work I like that it's all about the ship's on your site no opinions just the facts about the ship's great work
Do the whitestar my fav sci fi ship
The plucked chicken is ok but I gotta go with the Warlock all the time.
Daehawk warlock???
Ya. Bigger, more weapons...has missile pods plus 2 beams of the GOD platforms, plus fighters. Slow ya but its beautiful.
Two forward "tubes" on lower sector of bow originally were design as "plasma mortars" possibly for planetary bombardment but it was scratch from script when show hit the TV. But they are still there as model of Omega was build with them.
In addition to the launchers on the front of the ship, I heard that the red circle visible along either side of the hull in front of the rotating section were supposed to be missile doors. Something else that got dropped. I think this was because of a change in the effects team. The people who came up with all of this had been replaced by the time we really got to see the Omega-class in action.
Babylon 5 itself was fitted with a few of these in the GROPOS episode, much to the chagrin of the Centauri Primus that engaged both B5 and the Narn warship they were harboring.
The chin tubes were supposed to be the launchers for a pair of 'energy mines' like the sort fired by the Narn fleet at Gorash. Essentially they're nuclear bombs hurled by a railgun.
Another dropped feature of the Omega design were the Starfury hangars at the edges of the rotating habitat module. They were meant to be flung out under the centrifugal force like how B5's own fighters are dropped out of the Cobra bays.
Really would like to see;
Star trek - Excelsior & refit
Star Wars - Harrower class dreadnaught
maybe even from Red faction guerrilla - Hydra?
More babylon 5 please!!! Also exellent video!
The design of the Omega Class was heavily influenced by the USSR spaceship Alexei Leonov from the movie 2010.
When I watched Babylon 5 as a kid I had no idea about the physics those ships would operate under. Still this thing always felt like an actual spaceship should look like. It looks rugged and intimiating and is still my favourite design in Babylon 5
I love Babylon 5 and I like your videos with the other sci fi universes. In the words of Lando "Whatever it your doing keep it up".
You comment that they have limited maneuvering... These things showed they could pull a 180 degree turn in 2 seconds from full stop. Things things are actually very agile.
Always wondered.. Babylon 5 ships vs Stargate ships ?
Yeah i guess the centuries difference is alot but wonder if the Deadalus can fight this one or/Wraith/Lanteans/Travellers/Asgard/Goauld ships
Can we open this discussion ?
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You can't fool me, I know Supreme Commander when I hear it.
This is probably one of my all time favorite warship designs ever
It's so cool to see a warship with a centrifugal hab. It's the only warship I know that uses it.
Love B5
Howard King
One thing that Babylon 5 reflects is that humanity continues to make the same mistakes and brought it excess baggage with it to the stars.
love the vid on this ship... just wish it had some visual on the rotating section in motion....
0:36 The physics are Fully Newtonian.
Buy me one.
What about the Advanced Omega class destroyer?
God, I love the Omega Destroyer. My absolute favourite sci-fi ship.
even though the thunderbolt had superior tech in it, the fact that auroras were still being used some 50 odd years after the craft's introduction (in earth's defense fleet no less) suggests the aurora was still a superior space fighter by merit of it's base design
I love this ship.
YESSSSSSS THE OMEGA! My legitimate FAVORITE SHIP EVER.
It might be outgunned and out armored and out teched by 50% of the B5 universe, but holy shit it is one fucking rad ship.
David Colby → *YEAH, WHAT DAVID SAID!*
;~)°
It is sad that the 3D technology of the time of the show could not fully realize Omega's potential: those big humps up front were supposed to be beam emitters, and several parts of the ship were allegedly missile launch tubes that ultimately went unused.
One can only imagine if Stracynzsky wanted to reopen Pandora's Box today, what goodies would we be treated to...
And still it looks good because of the good designs. The characters are also so interesting that you pretty much overlook the lacking effects and set quality. Heck, even my grandmother liked this series. I don't think she understood all of the spaceships and stuff, but she liked the characters, I think G'kar was her favorite.
First I would like to say your vids are great! Second, a request: Advanced Omega Class Destroyer (Shadow tech enchanced) =)
Could you report on the ships from the movies "2001" and "2010, the year we made contact"?
The Earth Alliance Omega Class owes it's design to the ( 1984 film) 2010 CCCP Alexie Leonov spacecraft .
This is a ship we can actually build in real life for space travel
Would the spinning part actually create an artificial gravity for the ship? Surely the whole ship would have to spin... And wouldn't the momentum gravity generated as the ship moved through space fuck up the rotation gravity?
I get thar its scifi, but it's always confused me how it works XD
There would be gravity only in the spinning section, of course. Thrust would indeed generate gravity in 90 degree angle to the rotational gravity, but they wouldn't accelerate for long, so just strapping down during acceleration would be fine, although uncomfortable.
There are actually ships of other races in the show that create artificial gravity by accelerating for long periods of time, then turning the ship around, 180 degrees, and decelerating using the same engines, creating the same amount of gravity.
But still couldn’t lock onto a minbari vessel to save its life
Thank you for covering some Babylon 5. I think a good 1v1 matchup might be an Omega versus the re-envisioned BSG series Galactica. Both had no shields. Both had fighters. And both had formidable commanders. Or Warlock versus Pegasus (Ivanova vs. Cain?)
Great Video, and glad to see you adding more B5 classes to your venerable line up of sci fi ships. Just wanted to point out that the Omega may have had additional firepower that was never actually seen in visual footage. Not sure if you were only including weapons seen on screen.
"The turrets on each forward cheek were just there to get your attention, they were the 'light' weapons. :) . . . . . . the dual Big A** Cannons under the ships return bay that were supposed to launch gigaton class mines - yes those things were there for a reason." - Paul Bryant, Source: B5Scrolls (2008)
Space dock have you ever consider Star Blazer ...hmm have you've done one yet ... Nope I don't see any "Star Blazer's" but I see you have lots of video's of star wars, Mass effect, Babylon 5, Battlestar Etc.
So it's built by Lockheed Martin essentially. Rocketdyne merged with Aerojet in 2013, which is being acquired by LM right now.
Rocketdyne is a real company... or at least was until 2005. Maybe Rockwell/Boeing will resurrect the name sometime in the future.
Just random trivia ;)
Thank you thank you thank you , this is the one I’ve been waiting for! Babylon 5
I am wonder if she meet the uss enterprise
can you do the raza from dark matter
Very cool ship. One of the best sci-fi ships ever. But don't you think she looks like a steam engine?
Your channels fantastic. Babylon 5 is my favorite science fiction show. Please do more b5 ships, like:
-Warlock Class Destroyer
-Minbari Sharlin
-White Star
-Vorlon Dreadnought
-Technomage Pinnance
Omega-X destroyers?
Vorlons!
egorney → "Stay close to the Vorlon."
Major, let me take the gloves off Firing Team.
Tell aft batteries to open fire.
Commander squadron, fire in the hole, I repeat, fire in the hole !
Aft batteries ... FIRE !
KABOOOOM!
Clarksdown destroyed Major!
Good one, but you may have talked about the Pollux prior tho the Agamemnon, which is another well known B5 Omega....
Best damn ship Babylon 5. Yea the older races were more advanced but this thing took on a shadows, vorlons, centauri, and drakh
Aww yeah. Spacedocks is discussing the best ship. I don't care what franchise you're thinking of. This is the best ship. Period
Dude, nice vid, also you need to do:
BSG (1978)
BSG (2004)
Battlestar Pegasus
Viper Mk. 7
Viper Mk. 1
Classic and RDM Basestars
Please do more ships form Baballon 5 I love this series!
Hey spacedock! Love your stuff. Take a look at Earth Force Naval Intelligence dot org (efni.org) webpage. Tons of canon info for all the B5 ship and future B5 ship designs. your welcome!
Seriously? The thing is 1700 meters long? See the tie fighter -like armor pieces on the side of the head section, or how far the rotating parts stick out from the central hull? Each of those dimensions is as long as the deck of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier!!! The thing is probably as large as an airport - and no, not as large as an airport BUILDING, as large as an AIRFIELD, and that in 3 dimensions. With only 1000 crew when fully staffed, it's probably as empty as the starship Enterprise.
It's not "Bye-Gee Bryant". It's pronounced "Bee-gull Bryant" after Paul Beigle-Bryant who built the original at Foundation Imaging.
Do the Almighty or the Leviathan from destiny 2 next please!
Sooo...it's basically an Imperial Star Destroyer but full Newtonian Physics?
This ship is the definition of the following speech: "For too many years, Humanity was on the back foot. Reacting to threats, rather then preventing them. Rest of the galaxy was bigger then us, stronger then us. We were mice hiding in the shadows, hoping that the giants wouldn't see us. No more. Humanity is no longer on the defense. We are the giants now." -Captain Thomas Laskey, UNSC Infinity
Actually, as a fan of B5, you've gotten the armament wrong. Now I can understand if you simply used the horrid wiki for the stats, but if you don't want to get ripped apart by the fans, then go to the B5Wars Vault and download the AoG Kitchen Sink edition for B5Wars and the Earth Alliance Datasheets.
I can't image where those figures for the weapon diameters come from but they do not make sense in comparison to the CGI - the more likely correct dimensions would have one or even two zeroes on them. 52mm cannons as the main guns is laughable. The communication antennae are thicker than that. The point defence guns are bigger than 52mm even.
Those forward firing weapons are for blasting lumps out of capital ships the only weapons that would have such tiny diameter might be it's lasers. But the Plasma cannon's would be that small you could barely blow up a starfighter with a 52mm wide ball of plasma. and even a coherent plasma beam weapon of 52mm wouldn't be much more effective than casually waving a cutting torch back and forth over a tank.
So I'd suggest 520mm for beam weapons and 5200mm for plasma ball launchers. A 5 metre wide ball of plasma might actually do something to a capital ship.
Sure some B5 weapons are narrow focus beam weapons - but a lot of them are honking great plasma lumps too.
So I think some of those figures MUST but underestimates or missing zeroes.
Realistically, should a turning radius be a significant concern for a space warship? I mean, a laster travels 12 million miles a minute, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if it takes you a thousand miles or a hundred thousand miles to turn.
I wonder if the Omega was in fact a stopgap design, a placeholder in effect. After the Dilgar war Earth gained access to lots of advanced tech. Efforts to understand this technology would eventually lead to the awe inspiring Warlock design, but lessons learned during the war could be immediately implemented in upgrading the Nova. Two factors propelled the Omega from an experimental design to a frontline unit. First the Warlock proved far more complex than anyone expected, pushing it back decades. Second the Minbari war left Earth reeling and in desperate need of an upgraded capital ship to recover their losses.
I really like this ship, especially the looks (form follows function, humans navies have large flying bricks) but the spinning section? That's just stupid, because when the ship makes manouvers, thrust gravity comes in. It's stupid to have rotating sections an a ship that manouvers regularily because "up" in the rotating sections will point towards the ship's spine, but the "up" of the thrust gravity will point towards the ship's bow. You can have spin gravity on a space station but not on anything that fires it's thrusters regularly. Not to mention the spinning section requires a bunch of machinery that can, therefore will break down. Any competent designer would instead just slap some more armor on the sides. I will now go back and finish B5's fourth season.
Interesting fact @spacedock might be able to verify is the original intent was to have star furies launch out of the ends of the rotating center mass much like they launch out of Babylon 5 and recover via the front bay but due to CGI costs they just stuck to both launch and recovery via the front bay (I can't recall were I got this info but I believe it was in a doco on the CGI/Animation team and about the hardware they used). They were also to have a huge array of missile batteries on the sides, but again, CGI costs.
I would like to imagine the inner sections of the rotating section is living spaces and deeper in and more armored the bridge and CNC, and the outer sections having more centrifugal force/gravity are the launch bays to fling the star furies out, maybe have training decks for the embarked Marines to train in heavier perceived gravity etc.
One note, you actually have the artwork that shows the true foreward batteries that were never showed in the show firing(two large launchers below the starfury landing bays) also of which originally was designed to launch the starfuries from the rotational arms, but was never shown in the show
"The design of the ship itself included a number of features that were never seen utilised in the show. Perhaps the most obvious were the two very large forward cannons mounted under the forward docking bay which were intended to launch "gigaton class mines" and in fact appear very similar, if not identical, to the energy mine launchers seen on the Narn Cruiser in ("The Long, Twilight Struggle"). There were also rows of Starfury launch bay hatches located along the sections of the rotating centrifuge. The idea was that the fighters would launch using the same principles of centrifugal force as Babylon 5's Cobra Bays. Finally, all along the sides of the ship's hull were rows of little round hatches that were intended to be missile silos, meant to evoke the look of the broadside cannons from a 19th Century sailing vessel. The engine section was originally a more complex, counter-intuitive affair designed to compensate for the rotating centrifugal section; however in the name of simplicity and expediency, the concept was pared down to just four large rear facing engines.[25]" as pulled from the original wikia page
The Thunderbolt -looks- cool, and it's great it has exo/endo atmospheric capabilities. But it looks like the design sacrifices a lot of the Aurora Starfury's agility and nimbleness for just straight up linear acceleration. Which is a shame, I always thought the Aurora's ability to turn on a dime in 360 with the cockpit more or less at the center of gravity for the vehicle so less stress on the pilot to be one of it's cooler/more interesting points. Kinda like they were trying to design an X-wing that wouldn't get them sued to hell and back by Lucas Arts.
I'm somewhat of a sci-fi junkie, i've watched some of the Star trek series, stargate, both old and new Battlestar galacticas and i just finished season 2 of the expanse. how would Babylon 5 holdup to say battlestar and the expanse? seems like'd be a okay watch.
Just realized that if a starfury is about 18 meters across, there's no way the omega is as large as 1700 meters. The stats from Babylon 5's own source material seems to be a little wonkie.
Always one of my favorite designs from B5. It's a beefy war machine; very kinetic. The design, with cannons lining the entire body, always reminded me of old ironsides vessels with rows of cannons on each side.
I have a couple of questions regarding the law stats that have always bugged me.
1) The main and secondary armaments are stated in all material Iv seen in millimetre size. Does this not seem wrong and too small for a ship is a mile long? The graphics always show the weapons to look much bigger than this, after all we use guns of this size on IFV's today. Surely the size should be in centimetres or they missed a 0 off the millimetre number?
2) Why do nearly all sources omit the 2 heavy plasma morters mounted on the chin of the bow?
Just wanted to know your thoughts on this please?
The size of the weapons should more like 520cm and 400 cm there are bigger bore weapons mounted on infantry fighting vehicles and tanks right now. Just look at the size of the weapons and tell me I am wrong, also the image of the ship at 0:52 shows a weapon firing that is not mentioned the heavy plasma mortar like what is fitted to Bablyon 5.
Rocketdyne was an actual company. They developed the engines for the Saturn V and the Shuttle. Now they're part of Rockwell.
52mm....is REALLY small. Like WW2 early tank gun small.
In any navy in the world, the destroyer is one of the smallest ships in the fleet, and is used to screen the more powerful cruisers and aircraft carriers because the destroyer is lighter and faster.
In the first season episodes 18-19 "A Voice in the Wilderness", the Hyperion (which was the first in it's line and thus gave it's name to it's class) is labeled as a Heavy Cruiser. Now tell me why a heavy cruiser would be used as support for a destroyer.
B-5 isn't the only one who made that mistake.
Looking at it, that rotating hab makes zero sense. It rotates very slowly and the habitable sections aren't far from the axis - so you'd have both low "gravity", and probably motion sickness! I think there's also sequences in the show where the command deck is at the front of the ship, which can't have gravity, even though it's shown to have it.
If you ever read the behind-the-scenes stuff on a lot of B5's ship designs, the modelers had all sorts of design ideas that never got used on the show for various reasons. The Omega, in particular, has what are supposed to be launch bays at the outer edges of the rotating sections, the idea being that the Omega would launch fighters the same way B5 does. They also had a broadside battery of missiles which never got seen on the show.
I imagine they nixed those ideas either for SFX budget reasons or because they couldn't figure out where everything was supposed to fit inside.
One nitpick on the Starfury commentary, the rebels also had at least some Thunderbolts. For one thing, the Churchill had a squadron of them which ended up being based off of Babylon 5. Not sure how many others were depicted as fighting on the rebel side.
Cool, background music from Supreme Commander. Well choosen, i must say.
Simulated gravity ships and stations must feel so archaic to the likes of the Minbari.
Another bit of information, the rotating ring is copied directly from the Russian ship in the Movie 2010. The designers liked the look of it so much they copied it whole cloth :)
The Omega class destroyer is the best human military space technology can offer. The Warlock class is too crammed with Minbari and Vorlon technology that only the design, interior calibration, control panels and operating system are human contributions.