Lucid investors bought the best team money could buy - so the mechanical underpinning and base tech is awesome - the much better Tesla - but Software takes time as the German vendors know very well
Not "remarkable" these guys are sweating the details. And I'm not kidding and do not own a Lucid or a single share of LCID stock. I do follow the auto industry though. They've got the deep pockets to weather almost any storm.
@@G82Watts Agreed, someone explained to me a while ago that GM analogs to German car makers is VW is Chevy, BMW is Pontiac, Audi is Buick, Porsche is Corvette and Mercedes is Cadillac.
@@anydaynow01 eh idk about all that lol. German cars are just way better than American imo. Sounds like America is the knock off brands too me. Coming from an American 😂
Hopefully the Gravity (or whatever it's called if the copyright doesn't get sorted) will be a hit. Can't wait to see what they could do with a 3/Y competitor.
Of note, the SPL level difference between the Lucid is only 2dB louder than the BMW. The human ear usually cannot perceive that difference in SPL, 3-4 dB is when you start to notice. The Lucid is by no means noisy or not-luxury feeling, I have one, compared it to a Tesla which was atrocious. So by their own measurements BMW is BARELY quieter than the Lucid, not much to criticize there.
I’m surprised that in your tech segments you haven’t discussed BMW being the only manufacturer using brushed motors in its EVs, needing service, brush replacements, and possibly cleaning out at some point. Since no other manufacturer is using brushed motors over magnets, I’m skeptical of it being the way to go
BMW recommends replacing the brushs after 168k miles and the replacement module is 100 bucks. If the brushs indeed last as long as BMW claims, then this should be a non-issue.
Bruh I just don't get this comment. If u want a drivers car get a porsche or bmw M car. The hell u want an EV for if your looking for driving engagement. If I wanted anEV it would be a pure luxury cruiser.
Quite a few Lucids around here over the past year or so. Definitely seeing way more Airs than Model Ss these days. Though Model Y is like a Honda Civic around here these days! If it were my money, and with the Saudi's hell bent on making Lucid work, combined with the brain trust of Lucid (watch their tech videos!), I would get a Gravity with no regrets.
@@G82Watts I don't think it's unreasonable to want an EV that doesn't bore the hell out of you. Sure, if you're looking for an enthusiast car period, maybe avoid them, but it's completely fair to be in the market for an EV and have a little character and feel.
Me too, and it’s check engine light has been on for over a year but you know what? The car keeps going, it doesn’t care, it’s not shutting itself down until it’s flatbedded to the dealer.
Just some real world data points. Last week recharged at a 350kw Electrify America station. I have an AWD Lucid Pure with the same 700+ volt 88 kW-hr battery pack as the RWD Pure. It was 52F and I started charging at a little over 250 kW. I charged for 30 minutes and went from 5% to 80% averaging over 132kW even though I was the fourth car connecting at a 4 bay station. So the higher voltage can help. I have also gone to a EA 350kW charger and even though I'm the only one there, have connected at only 50kW (I always have the battery preconditioning before charging). When that happens I take a quick hit (10 to 15 minutes) and then drive 50 -60 miles to the next charger) hoping that I will connect at higher speeds. The key is to just charge enough to get to your destination (with a margin of safety). Then complete your charge to 80% over night.
Charging infrastructure continues to hold back EVs. Gotta at least hit tesla supercharger reliability levels. Still. Before you drive to the next station, try the other stalls first. Often it's just one charger stall being limited, not the whole site.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 yep. And even more important, Europe's network of level 2 charging is far superior to the US's. Tragic indeed. But slowly getting better.
@@Cyrribrae yes you are right - I now upgrade my garage charger to 400V if you have this level over there? Its 3 x faster then level 2, so the car is always full over night even if you roll in with 0%.
Great comparison guys. Just drove an I5 loaner for 3 days and really couldn't put my finger on what was not so good. But you guys hit it. Thanks so much
Great blend of your normal, thorough review with details relevant to the EV side of these cars. I’m not an EV shopper but find Lucid fascinating. I want driving feel to connect to my car, even if it is my daily. Lucid is showing focus on drivers. I hope they succeed
Watched this earlier today while sitting at Lucid delivery center waiting to pickup my car.. had to wait 30 minutes they were backed up. Not a ton of people picking up new cars, but they had one guy total. Ugh. Like 5th time already saw some teething problems being a new company. Watching this video was a little afraid they were going to go "Lucid is a POS get the i5." but happy it was pretty much what you'd expect. My review of Lucid Touring after 8 hours of ownership: This car is really fucking nice, lol. My biggest gripe is no Android Auto. And like seemingly all cars, with wheel where I like it it obstructs view of instrument panel. Oh and no button on front to open the frunk. I'd actually prefer to use it but more annoying to open. But otherwise car drives great. Normal day-to-day driving great, and went out for a bit after family went to bed for a little more spirited and yeah it just lives up to hype.
I’ve had mine for about a yr 1/2. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven. I’ve had a bmw an infinity, a Mercedes. They were great but somehow this is better. I will be getting rid of mine soon for a Rivian (my first love) or a Gravity (timing is not great). But my Lucid Sith is a nightmare and a beauty all day every day and twice on Sunday’s!
My Air Touring has a frunk open button on Glass Cockpit. And also on the foldaway screen- “openings” screen. Took delivery 5/5/24- don’t know why yours doesn’t
@@johnknott6539 I mean on car. Like if I have a bag of stuff and walking up to car, I can press button on rear of car to open trunk and put bag in. But no button to open frunk, need to use keyfob which battery lasts for 2 weeks, or yeah open car and press button in car then get back out and put bag in frunk.
So in this set up i definitely think as a drivers car the Lucid wins hands down. Excited to see where they take the EV world and I'm not an EV fan at all. However, it seems Lucid do actually give a damn about the driving feel and experience and wish them every success for the future! No other EV manufacture seems to be going this route yet. Great indepth video as always and love the channel!
id say if one buy a new car to own for a long time, avoid anything that isn`t a simple uniform metal roof. no sunroof moonroof any of that crap, its just rust and leaks waiting to happen
The G60 5 series is basically a replacement for the SWB 7 series at this point, it's almost the same size and share the driving dynamics philosophy. I imagine the next 3 series will essentially be the 5 series replacement now.
I’m not EV person. But if I did go EV, it be a Lucid for sure. It seems like a better fit and finish than a Tesla and does everything better than other brands.
In this Xanax inundated, Special K ingesting world, BMW knows its lease client, very well. With Lucid, it's made for DRIVERS. I am so happy to FINALLY see a Lucid every once in a while on the road away from the Phoenix area, where its assembled. To me, the Lucid is a masterpiece. A genuine work of art. The BMW is a product from a marketing company. To see the smiles on your faces while ripping it up with Lucid, it's so easy to see what is the more FUN, and in many ways, better car.
Have either of you clowns driven a Lucid? I'm a multi Porsche and other sports car owner from a time when actual driving characteristics were built into cars, vs synthetic. I have owned many sports and muscle cars over the years and FULLY understand fast driving, ask my attorney. The Lucid is a solid driver's car, quicker than anything I've ever owned. So what if it doesn't have a combustion engine? It has massive, instant torque and speed. Go drive one.
@@G82Watts You can get an EV Porsche and M car. 🙂 There is no reason someone won't make an electric lightweight MX-5 type car soon,as long as buyers are happy with a very small range. The Mini Cooper SE electric is within 100kg of the Mini Cooper S ICE, most owners seem to think it's pretty fun to drive. In terms of getting stuck in to hooking up tightly spaced hairpin corners, there is no reason an EV can't be fun (obviously the combustion engine noises and gear changes are missing, but then you have the instant throttle response which only the very best of ICEs can get close to,so swings and roundabouts) -- in terms of apex-to-apex I definitely believe BEVs have the potential to be lots of fun, as long as the weight is close to parity with the ICE equivalent.
It sounds like somebody who's going to crank it would be well advised to do so. Why does SG do more of those audio evaluations. I like that. @@isserdigan2835
I get it why people hate EV's. I used to until i learned about the Lucid Air in 2022. Since then i watched their videos. Followed their factory Amp 1 construction. Watched the tech talks that explained their superior technology and the reviews by countless people who praises the driving dynamics of the Air. Its a Technological Masterpiece worthy of buying. ❤. This coming from an M340i X5 M50 and Porsche GT4 owner. Wife also coming along in liking the Air.
I think they should have come out with the Gravity first, or given the Air more of a CUV look. Yeah it may have cost them range numbers but folks want CUVs (lifted station wagons/estate cars). But yeah, after watching the Lucid tech videos and seeing the SG Sapphire review with the engineers I'm a huge Lucid fan!
@@anydaynow01 i think Lucid air puts them in a position to showcase their technology better than a gravity. Plus Lucid has racing DNA. Not gonna matter much with the Gravity. I am not a fan of the infotainment placement of the gravity too. Its too high up. Plus the plastic wheel fender wells are a turn off for me. It makes it look cheap
@@isserdigan2835 Tesla survived on government subsidized clean air credits mostly from the state of CA. They forced China into the same clean air credit model as well, but China slyly used them to build out their EV supply chain infrastructure and then created BYD and is now eating their lunch.
For my money, the Lucid is the clear winner. Not that I can afford either of them, but the Lucid is a better driver's car, and I do love driving dynamics. I also love good design and, IMHO, the Lucid looks elegant. The BMW is fugly. I am a little disappointed that Lucid has so many QC issues, but for a startup car maker, that's forgiveable. BMW is certainly no paragon of long-term reliability, so the quality/reliability factor is a wash. And for me, the bottom line is emotional. I want Lucid to succeed because I want cleaner air and lower emissions, I respect what they're trying to achieve, I appreciate the fact that they're the only company matching Tesla on range, and I bought stock in the company and I want that investment to pay off, damnit! Okay, so maybe it's emotional and financial. :-). Thanks guys for another great video.
Thank you for an honest review and more importantly, offering different perspectives. As much as I would enjoy the driving dynamics in the Lucid, comfort and refinement are now a higher priority for me. Keep up the great work!
It being electric is what it enables it to be so efficient, have so much space, and exist at all. If combustion engines are going away (and they will, but not overnight) we can only hope Lucid’s model is the way forward.
I know, right? The BMW looks aggressive and sporty, like it should be able to shred its tires all day; and the Lucid looks like a sleek, glassy-smooth-riding luxury sedan. I’m sitting here watching them drive both these cars and I still have to tell myself which one is which.
Great review... I have zero interest in either of these but I still ended up watching all the way through and feel like I learned something. Well done.
Not totallly sold on the Lucid pitch yet, but I do think they offer a unique take on the future of EVs and it would be a shame if they don't maintain solvency going forward.
Interesting video, kind of disagree, or not disagree but don't really understand the driving impression feedback, but loved it anyway. The driving impression time stamp titles are switched.
At this point I would only lease an electric vehicle due to their rapid progress and very uncertain resale value. Right now, you can easily lease an i5 for around $600 per month which is notably cheaper than Lucid's >$700 and they also require double the down payment vs BMW. The other question is will Lucid be even around in 5 years?
They'll have to prove it for me to believe it. They made 26 billion of profits off the Aramco IPO. With a market cap of $1.7 trillion. Don't cry for rich daddies.
@@ratshackmojo You think they were not aware of how much investment it would take before they might see a break even point? If that? Lucid are going to be producing these en masse in Saudi Arabia for Europe and Asia and breaking even or even carrying it with some losses would be worth it for the tech and manufacturing sector Saudi are trying to build. Tier 1, benefits Tier 2, benefits Tier 3. I really dont care if Saudi succeeds or not- but they are not stupid enough to throw billions at this to just walk away within a couple of years. Also, Lucid, by all accounts of Automotive news, reviews, and customer feedback, are making a great product. Thats something some legacy brands cannot tout about their EV offerings after throwing Billions at their attempts.
I would love to see the Lucid Air Touring AWD with the upgraded sound system and their driving assist professional vs the BWM i5 M60. These are the 2 EVs that made my shortlist, but went with the BMW because of the software. You didn’t mention how you crack your head getting in and out of the Lucid unless you remember to duck.
I wonder if depreciation will hit these cars both the same. My money is on the BMW being the better vehicle to pick up off lease if that is your thing. I am not into paying for ANY new vehicle (waste of money!) so it will be interesting to see how reliable both of these cars are. After all, the EV-vangelists say that EVs are more reliable than their gas counterparts, and the horror stories associated with servicing BMWs have kept me from considering them as potential options for me. That said, I own VWs and have had almost zero issues with them, none which were show stoppers for me, so maybe a BMW could do well for me…
Awesome review guys!! I currently own a combustion vehicle but am intrigue with EV and perhaps maybe purchasing one in the future. Thank you for your honest opinion on EV vehicle and i must say --- i am a fan!!! I think the world is quickly evolving into vehicle electrification and with more options on the table it would be a lot easier to make a decision on what to purchase.
Air GT owner. Comparing an established ICE car that has been converted to an EV, isn't a fair comparison, and you touched on this at the end of the video. However, not building the EV from the ground up, means that they are relying on their tradition of excellence in the ICE world and hope they can sway people to decide on them for a decent effort into the EV realm. The hypercharging testing you did, didn't provide any numbers nor limitation the station may be been limited to that day. Several EA stations even in the dead of night will throttle back and not allow the actual hypercharging that the user would expect considering the design of the car. I normally go to my local EA at 2 or 3am to charge up (always preconditioning the battery), and routinely get 325KW into my Air GT, for an fair amount of time before it levels off. But I can always get 300 miles added in 35 to 40 minutes, and that is because of the 900V design of the car. I call that a win every time! Sure their software design isn't the best, and I attribute that to the fact their software engineers come from every corner of the Automotive industry, and you have a hodge podge of spaghetti code that in the end really hurts the electronic performance of the user experience. However, their OTA software updates, are fast and have made many improvements to their existing platform. I call that a win too! One area I will agree with your overall review is in the luxury mindedness of the Pure. I personally think it is a bad design choice to have the base model still cost an arm and a leg, and not have all the features in it. I can tell you right now, that the level of features not included in the Pure vs my Air GT is dramatic, and IMO a mistake on Lucid's part. You gave a minus on the brand recognition, while fair and unfair at the same time I personally like how exclusive my GT is. It turns heads everywhere I go, and I have everyone under the sun asking me about it. How many people are even going to notice the EV-I5? IMO, this is a win and not just another "me too" car. In fact in my area of Dallas County, there are only 3 Lucid's, and I like that alot! The Second area I will agree with you on is the Audio system. Now the Pure does give the user the option to choose the 21 speaker system over the 9 speaker system, but hardly worth the $$ markup. But even in the GT's audio system, this is NOT an enjoyable platform to listen to any song and get excited about it. There is absolutely no bass response at all, and that bothers me to no end. The audio system I had the my Ford Fusion Energi was amazing. This is shit and that knocking noise you heard from the front bass speakers isn't the speakers. Myself my my service tech determined that the factory isn't installing the proper "metal tape" over a small hole in the door panel, which is causing the knocking sound, or rather the sound that the speaker is blown. Once my service tech added the proper Metal Tape, that knocking noise went away. It didn NOT improve the bass response or the audio quality of the sound experience. So while I don't hear the knock now, I still do not enjoy the music. A fairly good review on a lopsided comparison. Good Luck
"Comparing an established ICE car that has been converted to an EV, isn't a fair comparison" This is BMW's decision isn't it? They had the engineering-forward i3 and i8 but abandoned those ideals in favour of converted ICE cars like the i4 and i5.
I went from a 2019 Model 3 Performance to a 2024 BMW i5. Lucid was on my shortlist but the closest shop was 3 hours away. I wanted a more luxurious drive and I don’t like SUVs at all and the BMW delivers. I share the distaste for the braking of the bmw though. If you have any questions on the i5 ask away!
Is the luxury of i5 really worth the price difference over the Model 3? I'm contemplating between the new Model 3 Ludicrous that is coming up vs the i5.
@@Iwo26 Depends a lot what you want: I didn’t test drive the facelift Model 3 but compared to my old Model 3 Performance the BMW has more real world range, is quieter, has better driving assist features (no more phantom braking thankfully), has better lights, a much better interior (especially the seats and the head-up display), more leg room In the back and a bigger trunk (but no frunk). On the downside the Model 3 had way more power and was more fun on a back road. The new Model 3 rectified a few problems like the noisiness and the lights as well as the cooled seats so just based on a price point of view it’s probably the better deal. I was also somehow fed-up with seeing so many Model 3s and Ys on the road as well as Elons crazy antics and the whole Tesla insanity the follows the brand that I didn’t even consider another Tesla even though my ownership of the Model 3 was nearly trouble-free and generally a positive experience.
I know they were going for ultimate range and driving dynamics with coming out with a sedan first, but CUVs sell these days, just look at Model Y vs. S sales. They would have been much better served releasing a slightly cheaper Gravity type CUV out the gate and taken the slight hit to ultimate range numbers. That and just getting Android Auto / Apple Car play to work from the get go should be key for any non Tesla auto maker right now.
Are you sure the lucid was preconditioned before charging? That's the only reason I could see for it to start at 55kw getting up to 139kw later. I've had terrible luck with the charging around Chicago, but if I get more than 80kw at any point in the charging session, it's because the charger was fully functional.
What's BMW's Moto? The Ultimate driving machine, Bravo Lucid 👏 A startup!! Drives better than a beamer, and beats it in packaging too!! Refinement comes with experience which BMW has decades of.
Fair report. Unfortunately BMW no longer makes drivers cars. Things started going down hill in 2009 by 2013 most BMWs had lost their dynamic adge. I had a 2012 x3 although it had no steering feel. It was still a fun to drive drift-able suv. I miss the non turbo straight six. What an engine. The electric motor before electric motors.
So we need a Lucid Air built by BMW. Really hope that the Neue Klasse will give us that, a great electric sport sedan: powerful, agile and efficient. I'm maybe the only one on the internet but I like new BMW style, so fingers crossed for their next EVs. And good for Lucid, they demonstrated the potential of good EV tech.
@@isserdigan2835 the 2 neue klasse are looking good as concept - BMW got the tradition making better looking cars then concepts and got new designs changing the market. Lets see.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 The outside is okay. the inside looks like any other cheap Chinese branded car. Cheap and horrible, just screen. maybe fit one instead of the windscreen also when they are at it and a just a camera at the front.
I always love your final thoughts part guys, you put so much thought in it combined with tech and industry knowledge. Great! Regarding those 2 cars - exactly the category where I am buying next. The underpinnings of the Lucid are very promising but its not ready yet for prime time, since they have unlimited Saudi Money it's only a matter of time. The BMW is great tech - but leaves me as a BMW fan warmish at best. I also like the iX to drive, inside but not to look at and it's a SUV....so I will chose something else which I never thought I would go for this time....thanks guys!
@japanwatchconnection disclaimer there is no dream decision for me right now - I signed up for a fully loaded EQE500E, good for long distance, competitive lease (fully loaded costs the same as a naked entry level i5 or half compared a Lucid over here) so.....
I would have loved to see the effects of Lucid‘s clever packaging resulting not necessarily in a big car but in the opposite: a sufficiently roomy interior in a car that is as small as possible.
Packaging marvels reek of economy cars. As mentioned by the last commenter the battery pack to get big range takes a big car. A couple factors right there.
Another (well-deserved) brick-bat for BMW. I take your point WRT the interior fitments in the Lucid (no cigar for falling short on this score in a vehicle that purports to be a l-u-x-u-r-y sport sedan). Nevertheless, the Lucid looks much nicer on the outside (the BMW looks like an overweight parody of its ancestors). More importantly, the folks at Lucid seem still to believe that we who buy vehicles might actually be interested in driving them (and having fun while doing so). Heaps of kudos to Lucid for that. Unfortunately, the BMW will likely sell like hotcakes (a testament to the power of marketing and past legacy), when surely this burgermeister deserves to be shunned for its awful driving dynamics. I hope Lucid does well with this vehicle--and works out the shortcomings that mar the interior audioscape and the driver-interface. Thank you for another great review.
its so odd, theres so much online about Lucid, so many videos, so much marketing, yet I havent seen a single one ever in Europe. Are they even sold in Europe? I personally just wouldnt want to spend that kind of money on a manufacturer with so little presence, a manufacturer who you couldnt be certain would still be around in 10 years, regardless of how good it is.
I’m in Austria and I was super interested in the Lucid Air RWD as my next car. The next shop is in Munich though which is a three hour drive from my home which is why I went with the BMW i5 instead. I’ve seen maybe 2 on the road.
Lucid makes a better drivers car, but the fate of many of these electric car startups aren't guarenteed. I don't love bmw but at least I'm confident they'll still exist as a company in 5 years time
Did you did the sound test with the Lucid Surreal Sound Pro or the basic sound system? Looks like the basic system as the Pro system is just excellent.
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For as new as Lucid is, it's quite remarkable how well they got "driving" right.
@japanwatchconnection Not just the higher up, he was the Chief Vehicle Engineer of the Model S.
Lucid investors bought the best team money could buy - so the mechanical underpinning and base tech is awesome - the much better Tesla - but Software takes time as the German vendors know very well
@@antblanks He was also Chief Engineer at Lotus. That Lotus.
You only have one chance to make a good first impression.
Not "remarkable" these guys are sweating the details. And I'm not kidding and do not own a Lucid or a single share of LCID stock. I do follow the auto industry though. They've got the deep pockets to weather almost any storm.
What a day to be alive that BMW is called a luxury sedan and some other brand a sports sedan
BMW chose volume over 'sport' 30 years ago.
Huh? When has BMW not been considered a luxury brand. ?
@@G82Watts Agreed, someone explained to me a while ago that GM analogs to German car makers is VW is Chevy, BMW is Pontiac, Audi is Buick, Porsche is Corvette and Mercedes is Cadillac.
@@anydaynow01 eh idk about all that lol. German cars are just way better than American imo. Sounds like America is the knock off brands too me. Coming from an American 😂
2018 BMW blog compared stinger with 5 series, did the same thing.
Lucid has a great philosophy and hope they can survive. Wish they'd create a volume seller to help them on their mission.
If it’s anything, their $80k SUV starts sale end of this year.
Hopefully the Gravity (or whatever it's called if the copyright doesn't get sorted) will be a hit. Can't wait to see what they could do with a 3/Y competitor.
Maybe they will be owned by a Chinese company in the future. That's the only way they can survive.
@@KidKingdomHeartsno it wont.
Too much of a niche company with expensive EV with no pedigree. I doubt it they’ll be around in 5-10 years.
Thanks for the audio testing - one of the few things that’s really hard to get info on.
Best part about this channel
Especially when one of the biggest reasons to buy an EV is if you're looking for the quietest ride.
Of note, the SPL level difference between the Lucid is only 2dB louder than the BMW. The human ear usually cannot perceive that difference in SPL, 3-4 dB is when you start to notice. The Lucid is by no means noisy or not-luxury feeling, I have one, compared it to a Tesla which was atrocious. So by their own measurements BMW is BARELY quieter than the Lucid, not much to criticize there.
It would be really interesting to see a Lucid Air vs Taycan comparison, as the best driving EVs that you can buy.
After watching one of your videos I always feel like having a phd afterwards in that topic 😂😂
Congrats Doctor!
I’m surprised that in your tech segments you haven’t discussed BMW being the only manufacturer using brushed motors in its EVs, needing service, brush replacements, and possibly cleaning out at some point. Since no other manufacturer is using brushed motors over magnets, I’m skeptical of it being the way to go
You do have to give them credit for selecting a motor topology that does not require any permanent magnets dug up from mining.
BMW recommends replacing the brushs after 168k miles and the replacement module is 100 bucks. If the brushs indeed last as long as BMW claims, then this should be a non-issue.
BMW dealers probably had a say in this decision. Dealers need high profit service visits, not maintenance free cars.
@@aussie2uGABrushes are cheap and will possible need to be changed only once. It’s a non issue.
@@aussie2uGABMW dealers don’t make huge profits. They have an extraordinary amount of overhead (which is insane imo but that’s another discussion)
Mark's nervous giggle as Jack threw the Lucid into the turn was hilarious.
You guys are so good at this. Marc’s comments are 1000% spot on . I test drove the i5 and it was as boring as my Camry. I’ll have to try the Lucid.
Currently building a garage for a Lucid Air or Gravity. 😅
Bruh I just don't get this comment. If u want a drivers car get a porsche or bmw M car. The hell u want an EV for if your looking for driving engagement. If I wanted anEV it would be a pure luxury cruiser.
Quite a few Lucids around here over the past year or so. Definitely seeing way more Airs than Model Ss these days. Though Model Y is like a Honda Civic around here these days! If it were my money, and with the Saudi's hell bent on making Lucid work, combined with the brain trust of Lucid (watch their tech videos!), I would get a Gravity with no regrets.
@@G82Watts I don't think it's unreasonable to want an EV that doesn't bore the hell out of you. Sure, if you're looking for an enthusiast car period, maybe avoid them, but it's completely fair to be in the market for an EV and have a little character and feel.
The only thing is that Lucid will creak like a camry after 6 months
"Hans...take me on the worm ride" 😂 you guys are f_____g hilarious!
I lost it
“You see it on a graph” - thanks, Mark, for believing in me…
Lmao
No other channel like this, not even close. Greatly appreciate your insight👍🏼 Very cool glimpse of the audio testing 🔊
I just hope they know it. Appreciation from this quarter!
Why am I watching this video? I drive a $1000 shitbox
You're better off with that anyway.
Cause your shitbox won't talk back to you when you miss a maintenance deadline, or hell won't shut itself off if you decide to drive 5 over..
Don't feel like that..I drive a 1000+ dollar a month shit box and I am also not sure why I am watching this video. 🤣🤣
You’re allowed to dream.
Me too, and it’s check engine light has been on for over a year but you know what? The car keeps going, it doesn’t care, it’s not shutting itself down until it’s flatbedded to the dealer.
Just some real world data points.
Last week recharged at a 350kw Electrify America station. I have an AWD Lucid Pure with the same 700+ volt 88 kW-hr battery pack as the RWD Pure. It was 52F and I started charging at a little over 250 kW. I charged for 30 minutes and went from 5% to 80% averaging over 132kW even though I was the fourth car connecting at a 4 bay station. So the higher voltage can help.
I have also gone to a EA 350kW charger and even though I'm the only one there, have connected at only 50kW (I always have the battery preconditioning before charging). When that happens I take a quick hit (10 to 15 minutes) and then drive 50 -60 miles to the next charger) hoping that I will connect at higher speeds.
The key is to just charge enough to get to your destination (with a margin of safety). Then complete your charge to 80% over night.
This sounds horrible!
Charging infrastructure continues to hold back EVs. Gotta at least hit tesla supercharger reliability levels.
Still. Before you drive to the next station, try the other stalls first. Often it's just one charger stall being limited, not the whole site.
@@Cyrribrae not around here - across Europe - very dense network of HP charger - now its getting too full on high traffic times
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 yep. And even more important, Europe's network of level 2 charging is far superior to the US's. Tragic indeed. But slowly getting better.
@@Cyrribrae yes you are right - I now upgrade my garage charger to 400V if you have this level over there? Its 3 x faster then level 2, so the car is always full over night even if you roll in with 0%.
You guys swapped the driving segment names FYI
They did it on purpose because of how the lucid drove
Great comparison guys. Just drove an I5 loaner for 3 days and really couldn't put my finger on what was not so good. But you guys hit it. Thanks so much
Great blend of your normal, thorough review with details relevant to the EV side of these cars. I’m not an EV shopper but find Lucid fascinating. I want driving feel to connect to my car, even if it is my daily. Lucid is showing focus on drivers. I hope they succeed
Watched this earlier today while sitting at Lucid delivery center waiting to pickup my car.. had to wait 30 minutes they were backed up. Not a ton of people picking up new cars, but they had one guy total. Ugh. Like 5th time already saw some teething problems being a new company. Watching this video was a little afraid they were going to go "Lucid is a POS get the i5." but happy it was pretty much what you'd expect. My review of Lucid Touring after 8 hours of ownership: This car is really fucking nice, lol. My biggest gripe is no Android Auto. And like seemingly all cars, with wheel where I like it it obstructs view of instrument panel. Oh and no button on front to open the frunk. I'd actually prefer to use it but more annoying to open. But otherwise car drives great. Normal day-to-day driving great, and went out for a bit after family went to bed for a little more spirited and yeah it just lives up to hype.
Good luck with the Lucid! You are officially an early adopter.
I’ve had mine for about a yr 1/2. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven. I’ve had a bmw an infinity, a Mercedes. They were great but somehow this is better. I will be getting rid of mine soon for a Rivian (my first love) or a Gravity (timing is not great). But my Lucid Sith is a nightmare and a beauty all day every day and twice on Sunday’s!
My Air Touring has a frunk open button on Glass Cockpit. And also on the foldaway screen-
“openings” screen. Took delivery 5/5/24- don’t know why yours doesn’t
@@johnknott6539 I mean on car. Like if I have a bag of stuff and walking up to car, I can press button on rear of car to open trunk and put bag in. But no button to open frunk, need to use keyfob which battery lasts for 2 weeks, or yeah open car and press button in car then get back out and put bag in frunk.
Very helpful video. Nicely reported edited and shown. Hits all the points
So in this set up i definitely think as a drivers car the Lucid wins hands down. Excited to see where they take the EV world and I'm not an EV fan at all. However, it seems Lucid do actually give a damn about the driving feel and experience and wish them every success for the future! No other EV manufacture seems to be going this route yet.
Great indepth video as always and love the channel!
First time I see a real audio test in a car review, Bravo!
The glass roof on the Lucid really does it a disservice as a luxury car. Instead of absorbing noise, it reflects it.
The heat as well. If you own anything with a glass roof you’ll want a good tint on it ASAP!
We're getting it with the regular roof for that reason
@@jamied9448 it's great that they have the option. I would never want the glass. Have fun with the car. Driven two. Very well thought out.
id say if one buy a new car to own for a long time, avoid anything that isn`t a simple uniform metal roof. no sunroof moonroof any of that crap, its just rust and leaks waiting to happen
I love my Lucid glass roof. It they do offer option of metallic roof for anyone with a different preference.
I would love it if you made a masterclass in audio technology
As an European, who always appreciates old BMWs, there are no reasons to buy i5.
Good job Lucid !!
You are a broke boomer anyway
The G60 5 series is basically a replacement for the SWB 7 series at this point, it's almost the same size and share the driving dynamics philosophy. I imagine the next 3 series will essentially be the 5 series replacement now.
What a great detailed review. One of my favorite channels for pure information.
I’m not EV person. But if I did go EV, it be a Lucid for sure. It seems like a better fit and finish than a Tesla and does everything better than other brands.
except that it’s even less reliable than a Tesla 😂
Thanks for the video comparing the two! Definitely helped me be a more informed consumer.
In this Xanax inundated, Special K ingesting world, BMW knows its lease client, very well. With Lucid, it's made for DRIVERS. I am so happy to FINALLY see a Lucid every once in a while on the road away from the Phoenix area, where its assembled.
To me, the Lucid is a masterpiece. A genuine work of art. The BMW is a product from a marketing company.
To see the smiles on your faces while ripping it up with Lucid, it's so easy to see what is the more FUN, and in many ways, better car.
Saying an EV is made for drivers is hilarious. If u want a drivers car get a porsche or bmw M car.
Have either of you clowns driven a Lucid? I'm a multi Porsche and other sports car owner from a time when actual driving characteristics were built into cars, vs synthetic. I have owned many sports and muscle cars over the years and FULLY understand fast driving, ask my attorney. The Lucid is a solid driver's car, quicker than anything I've ever owned. So what if it doesn't have a combustion engine? It has massive, instant torque and speed. Go drive one.
@@G82Watts You can get an EV Porsche and M car. 🙂 There is no reason someone won't make an electric lightweight MX-5 type car soon,as long as buyers are happy with a very small range. The Mini Cooper SE electric is within 100kg of the Mini Cooper S ICE, most owners seem to think it's pretty fun to drive. In terms of getting stuck in to hooking up tightly spaced hairpin corners, there is no reason an EV can't be fun (obviously the combustion engine noises and gear changes are missing, but then you have the instant throttle response which only the very best of ICEs can get close to,so swings and roundabouts) -- in terms of apex-to-apex I definitely believe BEVs have the potential to be lots of fun, as long as the weight is close to parity with the ICE equivalent.
This was an actual great comparison because of the talking points that could be had. Super informative and thought provoking. Great vid!
Another top notch video Mark and Jack!
Straight up the most thorough and thoughtful car review channel. Love the audio system and underbody analysis. Oh… the Lucid’s rear isn’t elegant.
You can upgrade the sound system on the Lucid pure.
It sounds like somebody who's going to crank it would be well advised to do so. Why does SG do more of those audio evaluations. I like that. @@isserdigan2835
Thanks for thanking us for our time ❤
I get it why people hate EV's. I used to until i learned about the Lucid Air in 2022. Since then i watched their videos. Followed their factory Amp 1 construction. Watched the tech talks that explained their superior technology and the reviews by countless people who praises the driving dynamics of the Air. Its a Technological Masterpiece worthy of buying. ❤. This coming from an M340i X5 M50 and Porsche GT4 owner. Wife also coming along in liking the Air.
I think they should have come out with the Gravity first, or given the Air more of a CUV look. Yeah it may have cost them range numbers but folks want CUVs (lifted station wagons/estate cars). But yeah, after watching the Lucid tech videos and seeing the SG Sapphire review with the engineers I'm a huge Lucid fan!
@@anydaynow01 i think Lucid air puts them in a position to showcase their technology better than a gravity. Plus Lucid has racing DNA. Not gonna matter much with the Gravity. I am not a fan of the infotainment placement of the gravity too. Its too high up. Plus the plastic wheel fender wells are a turn off for me. It makes it look cheap
Pretty sure you said the same thing about Tesla when they are in their cash burn state. They werent profitable for almost 10 years 😂😂😂
japanwatchconnectionlucid will go bankrupt if the Saudis get bored. Otherwise they can lose money forever.
@@isserdigan2835 Tesla survived on government subsidized clean air credits mostly from the state of CA. They forced China into the same clean air credit model as well, but China slyly used them to build out their EV supply chain infrastructure and then created BYD and is now eating their lunch.
Great review, guys, as usual. Thanks. 👍👍
It’s remarkable how specifically these guys can describe what exactly the lucid does right
For my money, the Lucid is the clear winner. Not that I can afford either of them, but the Lucid is a better driver's car, and I do love driving dynamics. I also love good design and, IMHO, the Lucid looks elegant. The BMW is fugly.
I am a little disappointed that Lucid has so many QC issues, but for a startup car maker, that's forgiveable. BMW is certainly no paragon of long-term reliability, so the quality/reliability factor is a wash.
And for me, the bottom line is emotional. I want Lucid to succeed because I want cleaner air and lower emissions, I respect what they're trying to achieve, I appreciate the fact that they're the only company matching Tesla on range, and I bought stock in the company and I want that investment to pay off, damnit!
Okay, so maybe it's emotional and financial. :-).
Thanks guys for another great video.
Love the on-track seque @ 20:05. Nice touch. :-)
Thank you for an honest review and more importantly, offering different perspectives. As much as I would enjoy the driving dynamics in the Lucid, comfort and refinement are now a higher priority for me. Keep up the great work!
So easy choice... Lucid over the i5. Can't remember the last time I was impressed by a new BMW model (as the current owner of 2 BMWs)
Not at all - but easy it is none of them - I will go somewhere else always been a BMW driver
@japanwatchconnection VW has objectively made junk for decades
You guys are just broke.
BMW isn't for you.
Go get a Kia. The cheap one
Do one of these but do like a Camry vs Sonata when y'all get the new Camry
Very well done as always. Best car channel in the biz
I must admit (but don't tell anybody) the Lucid is an extremely compelling package.
If only it weren't electric.
Well Done.
It being electric is what it enables it to be so efficient, have so much space, and exist at all. If combustion engines are going away (and they will, but not overnight) we can only hope Lucid’s model is the way forward.
I bet the general public would think the opposite would be true of these two vehicles
I know, right? The BMW looks aggressive and sporty, like it should be able to shred its tires all day; and the Lucid looks like a sleek, glassy-smooth-riding luxury sedan. I’m sitting here watching them drive both these cars and I still have to tell myself which one is which.
Assuming it's reliable, it's gonna be so nice to get a Lucid Air for like $30k in a few years
That's my plan!
No B58 No buy
No woman , no cry
NO B58, NO BUY!
please shut up
Ok
There is a B58 on the 540i
For once I agree regarding the B58.
Great review... I have zero interest in either of these but I still ended up watching all the way through and feel like I learned something. Well done.
Maybe one of the best reviews.
Love how the Lucid says 30mph limit while on a racetrack. 😂
Love the choice of music on the dash. Quite appropriate 🎉
Nice to see a legitimate smile on Marc's face in the Lucid!
That BMW back seat is so tight! It’s only spacious to a fun sized person.
the quantity of these cars that you're actually going to see on the road this month: somewhere between 0 and 1
Great review, guys! I feel like I want to drive around your area just for a chance to see you celebrities.
Not totallly sold on the Lucid pitch yet, but I do think they offer a unique take on the future of EVs and it would be a shame if they don't maintain solvency going forward.
The Lucid really is the 90s BMW of the 2020s
I love my Air GT but I do hope to get a chance to drive the Pure RWD some day.
Lucid all the way!
Interesting video, kind of disagree, or not disagree but don't really understand the driving impression feedback, but loved it anyway. The driving impression time stamp titles are switched.
Lucid is the KING
The king of creating a car for .3% of the market.
At this point I would only lease an electric vehicle due to their rapid progress and very uncertain resale value. Right now, you can easily lease an i5 for around $600 per month which is notably cheaper than Lucid's >$700 and they also require double the down payment vs BMW. The other question is will Lucid be even around in 5 years?
Saudi owns 60% and they are making this part of their transition away from oil. I think Lucid will be around for a long time.
@@gregmcgrath1226 Lucid lost over $2 billion last year. Even rich daddies from Riyadh have their limits.
They'll have to prove it for me to believe it. They made 26 billion of profits off the Aramco IPO. With a market cap of $1.7 trillion. Don't cry for rich daddies.
@@ratshackmojo You think they were not aware of how much investment it would take before they might see a break even point? If that? Lucid are going to be producing these en masse in Saudi Arabia for Europe and Asia and breaking even or even carrying it with some losses would be worth it for the tech and manufacturing sector Saudi are trying to build. Tier 1, benefits Tier 2, benefits Tier 3. I really dont care if Saudi succeeds or not- but they are not stupid enough to throw billions at this to just walk away within a couple of years. Also, Lucid, by all accounts of Automotive news, reviews, and customer feedback, are making a great product. Thats something some legacy brands cannot tout about their EV offerings after throwing Billions at their attempts.
I absolutely despise EVs and I would still buy a Lucid simply because it’s done RIGHT.
Love this content
I hope lucid stays in the game. Both them and rivian are facing the mountain.
I would love to see the Lucid Air Touring AWD with the upgraded sound system and their driving assist professional vs the BWM i5 M60. These are the 2 EVs that made my shortlist, but went with the BMW because of the software. You didn’t mention how you crack your head getting in and out of the Lucid unless you remember to duck.
I wonder if depreciation will hit these cars both the same. My money is on the BMW being the better vehicle to pick up off lease if that is your thing. I am not into paying for ANY new vehicle (waste of money!) so it will be interesting to see how reliable both of these cars are. After all, the EV-vangelists say that EVs are more reliable than their gas counterparts, and the horror stories associated with servicing BMWs have kept me from considering them as potential options for me. That said, I own VWs and have had almost zero issues with them, none which were show stoppers for me, so maybe a BMW could do well for me…
Awesome review guys!! I currently own a combustion vehicle but am intrigue with EV and perhaps maybe purchasing one in the future. Thank you for your honest opinion on EV vehicle and i must say --- i am a fan!!! I think the world is quickly evolving into vehicle electrification and with more options on the table it would be a lot easier to make a decision on what to purchase.
I always thought the Lucid Air competes with the i7. I guess not. Thanks Savagegeese.
In full regalia it surpasses the i7 by a huge margin.
It’s better than the i7
Better range looks and speed
Air GT owner. Comparing an established ICE car that has been converted to an EV, isn't a fair comparison, and you touched on this at the end of the video. However, not building the EV from the ground up, means that they are relying on their tradition of excellence in the ICE world and hope they can sway people to decide on them for a decent effort into the EV realm. The hypercharging testing you did, didn't provide any numbers nor limitation the station may be been limited to that day. Several EA stations even in the dead of night will throttle back and not allow the actual hypercharging that the user would expect considering the design of the car. I normally go to my local EA at 2 or 3am to charge up (always preconditioning the battery), and routinely get 325KW into my Air GT, for an fair amount of time before it levels off. But I can always get 300 miles added in 35 to 40 minutes, and that is because of the 900V design of the car. I call that a win every time!
Sure their software design isn't the best, and I attribute that to the fact their software engineers come from every corner of the Automotive industry, and you have a hodge podge of spaghetti code that in the end really hurts the electronic performance of the user experience. However, their OTA software updates, are fast and have made many improvements to their existing platform. I call that a win too!
One area I will agree with your overall review is in the luxury mindedness of the Pure. I personally think it is a bad design choice to have the base model still cost an arm and a leg, and not have all the features in it. I can tell you right now, that the level of features not included in the Pure vs my Air GT is dramatic, and IMO a mistake on Lucid's part.
You gave a minus on the brand recognition, while fair and unfair at the same time I personally like how exclusive my GT is. It turns heads everywhere I go, and I have everyone under the sun asking me about it. How many people are even going to notice the EV-I5? IMO, this is a win and not just another "me too" car. In fact in my area of Dallas County, there are only 3 Lucid's, and I like that alot!
The Second area I will agree with you on is the Audio system. Now the Pure does give the user the option to choose the 21 speaker system over the 9 speaker system, but hardly worth the $$ markup. But even in the GT's audio system, this is NOT an enjoyable platform to listen to any song and get excited about it. There is absolutely no bass response at all, and that bothers me to no end. The audio system I had the my Ford Fusion Energi was amazing. This is shit and that knocking noise you heard from the front bass speakers isn't the speakers. Myself my my service tech determined that the factory isn't installing the proper "metal tape" over a small hole in the door panel, which is causing the knocking sound, or rather the sound that the speaker is blown. Once my service tech added the proper Metal Tape, that knocking noise went away. It didn NOT improve the bass response or the audio quality of the sound experience. So while I don't hear the knock now, I still do not enjoy the music.
A fairly good review on a lopsided comparison.
Good Luck
"Comparing an established ICE car that has been converted to an EV, isn't a fair comparison" This is BMW's decision isn't it? They had the engineering-forward i3 and i8 but abandoned those ideals in favour of converted ICE cars like the i4 and i5.
Maybe revisit the Fiskar Ocean since they are having a fire sale.
Yeah coz they arent back by anything. Lucid is backed by Saudi PIF fund. Rivian is backed by Amazon and Tesla is Tesla.
sadly but true - will they survive at all?
20:00 song is: ZORRO - Just Bones (Instrumental)
I wonder if in the future, we'll look back fondly on these 2020s BMWs.
I went from a 2019 Model 3 Performance to a 2024 BMW i5. Lucid was on my shortlist but the closest shop was 3 hours away. I wanted a more luxurious drive and I don’t like SUVs at all and the BMW delivers. I share the distaste for the braking of the bmw though. If you have any questions on the i5 ask away!
Is the luxury of i5 really worth the price difference over the Model 3? I'm contemplating between the new Model 3 Ludicrous that is coming up vs the i5.
@@Iwo26 Depends a lot what you want:
I didn’t test drive the facelift Model 3 but compared to my old Model 3 Performance the BMW has more real world range, is quieter, has better driving assist features (no more phantom braking thankfully), has better lights, a much better interior (especially the seats and the head-up display), more leg room
In the back and a bigger trunk (but no frunk). On the downside the Model 3 had way more power and was more fun on a back road.
The new Model 3 rectified a few problems like the noisiness and the lights as well as the cooled seats so just based on a price point of view it’s probably the better deal.
I was also somehow fed-up with seeing so many Model 3s and Ys on the road as well as Elons crazy antics and the whole Tesla insanity the follows the brand that I didn’t even consider another Tesla even though my ownership of the Model 3 was nearly trouble-free and generally a positive experience.
Yeah model 3's are a dime a dozen. Good change up. The i5 is the new hot thing, which will cut both ways over time. @@Helmigurt
"Elon's crazy antics."
oh, you're one of those guys...
@@louKushh Oh, you’re one of thooose guys…
I know they were going for ultimate range and driving dynamics with coming out with a sedan first, but CUVs sell these days, just look at Model Y vs. S sales. They would have been much better served releasing a slightly cheaper Gravity type CUV out the gate and taken the slight hit to ultimate range numbers. That and just getting Android Auto / Apple Car play to work from the get go should be key for any non Tesla auto maker right now.
Nearly 80 grand for a bmw that is about as exciting to drive as a camry. What a world.
It's a whole new world. If you watch the Savagegeese video on the BMW i5 M60 you'll see that excitement isn't all it's cracked up to be.
FYI - "driving impressions" timestamp caption on YT was swapped for both cars
Are you sure the lucid was preconditioned before charging? That's the only reason I could see for it to start at 55kw getting up to 139kw later.
I've had terrible luck with the charging around Chicago, but if I get more than 80kw at any point in the charging session, it's because the charger was fully functional.
very much this, if you don't precondition you're already putting yourself at a huge disadvantage
What's BMW's Moto?
The Ultimate driving machine,
Bravo Lucid 👏
A startup!! Drives better than a beamer, and beats it in packaging too!!
Refinement comes with experience which BMW has decades of.
Summed it up
So much for the Ultimate Driving Machine
Next time you're in San Diego you'll see a lot more Lucid around here, people seem to know.
Fair report. Unfortunately BMW no longer makes drivers cars. Things started going down hill in 2009 by 2013 most BMWs had lost their dynamic adge. I had a 2012 x3 although it had no steering feel. It was still a fun to drive drift-able suv. I miss the non turbo straight six. What an engine. The electric motor before electric motors.
So we need a Lucid Air built by BMW.
Really hope that the Neue Klasse will give us that, a great electric sport sedan: powerful, agile and efficient.
I'm maybe the only one on the internet but I like new BMW style, so fingers crossed for their next EVs.
And good for Lucid, they demonstrated the potential of good EV tech.
I wanna vomit the future BMW EV design its nauseating.
@@isserdigan2835 the 2 neue klasse are looking good as concept - BMW got the tradition making better looking cars then concepts and got new designs changing the market. Lets see.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 The outside is okay. the inside looks like any other cheap Chinese branded car. Cheap and horrible, just screen. maybe fit one instead of the windscreen also when they are at it and a just a camera at the front.
@@Iceeeen well the inside it halfbaked, just showing new ideas, agreed
E39 is still the daddy. Not selling mine until I have to.
The F10 is the best gen tbh it’s going on 13 years old and still looks modern
The first Lucid Air was SO far ahead of the pack.
I always love your final thoughts part guys, you put so much thought in it combined with tech and industry knowledge. Great!
Regarding those 2 cars - exactly the category where I am buying next. The underpinnings of the Lucid are very promising but its not ready yet for prime time, since they have unlimited Saudi Money it's only a matter of time.
The BMW is great tech - but leaves me as a BMW fan warmish at best. I also like the iX to drive, inside but not to look at and it's a SUV....so I will chose something else which I never thought I would go for this time....thanks guys!
@japanwatchconnection disclaimer there is no dream decision for me right now - I signed up for a fully loaded EQE500E, good for long distance, competitive lease (fully loaded costs the same as a naked entry level i5 or half compared a Lucid over here) so.....
NOOOOOO!
Just kidding congrats.👍 @@bavariancarenthusiast2722
I anxiously wait for the day Lucid comes to Europe
"Your risk of being air lifted out is much greater in the Sapphire"...lol
The Saudiis must know something that we don't about Lucid when they gave them a $1B lifeline.
3:40 - BMW idrive 8.5 also has major issues with iPhone connections
Hope they fix that soon…
If they named the battery B58, would AI Jack halt, catch fire or become sentient?
If that were to come to pass, Jack would become the poster boy for spontaneous human combustion. Let's just hope that doesn't happen,
They should rename prismatic batteries "pouch in a box" cells :) I know it doesn't sound as magical, but it's accurate
Mark, did you do an audio comparison between the glass and aluminum roofs? I'd imagine the aluminum roof model is SIGNIFICANTLY quieter at speed.
I would have loved to see the effects of Lucid‘s clever packaging resulting not necessarily in a big car but in the opposite: a sufficiently roomy interior in a car that is as small as possible.
Me too, I bet the batteries need a big footprint though.
Packaging marvels reek of economy cars. As mentioned by the last commenter the battery pack to get big range takes a big car. A couple factors right there.
0:54 - Savage Geese attack residue (just below the drivers side mirror)!!
What about comparing to the M60? Wouldn’t that satisfy the sporty need compared to the Lucid?
Even I am a big fan of bmw cars. House hold actually has a x3 and i4 m50. I would choose Lucid.
Same here - I had almost all 5 series since ....I don´t even know, but also the Lucid is not a fully baked car much more expensive also a hard no.
Another (well-deserved) brick-bat for BMW. I take your point WRT the interior fitments in the Lucid (no cigar for falling short on this score in a vehicle that purports to be a l-u-x-u-r-y sport sedan).
Nevertheless, the Lucid looks much nicer on the outside (the BMW looks like an overweight parody of its ancestors). More importantly, the folks at Lucid seem still to believe that we who buy vehicles might actually be interested in driving them (and having fun while doing so). Heaps of kudos to Lucid for that.
Unfortunately, the BMW will likely sell like hotcakes (a testament to the power of marketing and past legacy), when surely this burgermeister deserves to be shunned for its awful driving dynamics.
I hope Lucid does well with this vehicle--and works out the shortcomings that mar the interior audioscape and the driver-interface.
Thank you for another great review.
PS: "Yobness" (23"02'). Outstanding!
Have you done a video explaining how your sound charts work?
So basically it just comes down to whether you want to use turn signals or not
its so odd, theres so much online about Lucid, so many videos, so much marketing, yet I havent seen a single one ever in Europe. Are they even sold in Europe?
I personally just wouldnt want to spend that kind of money on a manufacturer with so little presence, a manufacturer who you couldnt be certain would still be around in 10 years, regardless of how good it is.
I’m in Austria and I was super interested in the Lucid Air RWD as my next car. The next shop is in Munich though which is a three hour drive from my home which is why I went with the BMW i5 instead. I’ve seen maybe 2 on the road.
Much noise no sales
@japanwatchconnection Correct!
Lucid makes a better drivers car, but the fate of many of these electric car startups aren't guarenteed. I don't love bmw but at least I'm confident they'll still exist as a company in 5 years time
Lucid will also exist. Just look at their backers and how much money they have.
Did you did the sound test with the Lucid Surreal Sound Pro or the basic sound system? Looks like the basic system as the Pro system is just excellent.