Loving the indepth tech detail. Also find it cool , how he enjoys building things , like his father helped to build his own toys , how he built his own house , how he worked with stone , hes a builder, with ambition. Thats a great foundation.
What a wonderful interview. It was great to hear Peter offered meaningful questions and being given the space to respond. Late in the interview we learn more about Peter's personal history with some details totally new to me, but also filling in how one event led to the next on the path to Lucid.
True. BTW, we have a phrase here in the UK "she's the cat's mother" for when people say "she" when their name would be more appropriate. I'm sure Imogen would rather you used her name 🙂
One of the most joyous drives of my life was chasing a Lotus Elise from Pireaus Harbour on one side of Greece to Patras Harbour on the other. This was before the days of Sat Nav and the Elise was driven by a British Army Officer who had got on the same ferry in Limassol as us. We (my wife and I) had chatted with him during the three day journey from Cyprus, and realised we could dispense with maps written in Greek Cyrillics as he knew the route. He didn’t know we were following him, and boy did he enjoy driving that Elise! I was in a new VW Passat (the updated version from ‘98) so keeping up with him was quite a feat! Beautiful countryside, the thrill of the chase, the worry of missing the ferry on the other side. Absolutely amazing.
What a delightful interview! Imogen, you are amazing to watch - intelligent, articulate, charming and gorgeous. Peter Rawlinson is fascinating and has a touch of the mad professor about him. Truly one of the best interviews in your amazing catalogue at EE. Keep up the great work. We love it!
I’ve watched Peter Rawlinson in pretty much every interview he’s ever done and I’ve never seen him grin ear-to-ear or talk with such a twinkle in his eye but I guess that’s what happens when you put a beautiful woman in front of a man. Good move Fully Charged.
Wow this was a good interview, good job imogen actually, really good questions. I have seen the Munro tear down of the Lucid Pack and that was really eye opening
Great story about his love of engineering seemingly fostered by his father. Shows the importance of fostering children's interests so they can hopefully reach their full potential
Peter Rawlinson loves cars, and he is admirably focused on the product. Elon Musk also talks about the factory being the key to Tesla's success, and I think that is very important. Hopefully Lucid will succeed. Tesla slightly benefited from being the first movers. But they also managed to make a profitable company after 5-8 years. It looked inevitable, but now I see it wasn't inevitable.
@@marting1056 Tesla got each of its car models to gross profit margin (so that it didn't lose money making each car) within a year of production. Lucid (and Rivian) still haven't done that. They make great cars, but they're not going to survive unless they figure it out.
@@skierpage Tesla nearly went bankrupt many times. Around 2017-18, Elon tried to sell Tesla to Apple!!!! Also, Toyota and Mercedes were major shareholders of Tesla. Mercedes sold off their shares around 2015-16.
Great interview. Can’t help but be inspired by Rawlinson’s passion and enthusiasm and he’s Welsh! Agree totally we should be going down the efficiency line and not bigger and bigger batteries.
It may be ok to lease now with improvements, but it was awful in early 2023 when price was $155K. Listen closely to reviews and test drive it with a keen eye to make sure you can accept its weaknesses.
What we’re seeing with Lucid is just how far Saudi investors are ready to go to make this project work. I predict their factory in Saudi Arabia will be short lived. Unless they merge with a Chinese manufacturer, I don’t expect they’ll survive.
Supposed to be coming in 2025, ,but they might wait until they have that smaller vehicle. The UK doesn’t really need a 500 mile EV, a smaller form factor 300-400 mile EV with a 60kWh ish battery would be better. Don’t know that efficiency will be a big selling point with most of the public though, they might need to find another USP. To my mind they as a proposition are no different to the other dozen or so brands occupying the space, and it’s the packing that is probably more important for me - does it fit my lifestyle - can’t say any of their current cars appeal to me very much.
EPA rated 2025 Air Pure at 146 MPGe or 23 kWh/100mi. This translates to 4.33 miles per kWh. The 5 mi/kWh referred to is perhaps the in car display, without the charging loss from the wall.
Seriously can't get enough of listening to Peter, fantastic Interview Imogen. If there was a 3hour version of this I'd still be entertained. However! No question about RHD versions? When are they coming, Come on Peter you are from the UK!
What makes RUclips great are interviews like this. Thanks for sharing. A good question to ask Peter next time you get the chance to interview him is, "why hydrogen cars will never become a mass market reality". I know there are a handful of cars in the world, but for most people it is very clear battery powered cars are the future to enable the world to move away from diesel and petrol engines. Peter would be far more articulate and authoritative than me, when explaining this.
It's a talent to do interviews - Imogen you nailed it. Well done :) Great to see peter being very open and giving insight into the journey. That being said HURRY UP WITH GRAVITY PETER!!
Bravo, Imogen, for the fascinating deep dive. And Peter, for making pound-for-pound, the best EVs on the market. Herculean effort to get to this point. Wish nothing but the best for Gravity and beyond; NB Gravity looks like it will join its Air older sibling to take out its own Car of the Year gong(s) next year.
A s a Designer for me that was a beautiful and engaging emotional interview, I don't mind share I had tiers of shear joy at the end. Thank you Imogen and your team for a very special meeting of minds! God knows the world needs more of this!!
Great conversation and very illuminating. I don't think I've ever heard Mr. Rawlinson so animated. This guy is the real deal. I can't wait to seewhat they either bring to market, or help to bring to marke,t in the future. Thank you!
A delightful interview with an inspiring corporate leader/tech expert. Not surprising that he can sell Lucid to potential investors and prospective employees. One can only hope that the goal of making an affordable efficient car. Without that eventuality, widespread EV adoption is unlikely to happen
The Ionic was a very efficient car. if we account for frontal area (cd/a, as Peter points out), the ionic has a frontal area of 2.639 m2 vs the Lucid with 2.734 m2 - which gives the Ionic the opportunity to offset its Cd of 2.4 vs the Lucid with 0.21. It's also over 700Kg lighter, which certainly makes a very big difference, particularly when your are accelerating and decelerating a lot.
What Peter says about the back seat in the Model S is spot on. My first ever sit in a Tesla was in a Model S back seat... just to try it out. I'm 6 ft 3, and it was a definite "no" as an option to be a back seat passenger. It's ironic that Tesla made that work for the Model 3, but have not gone back to fix it for the Model S. I rather suspect that the Lucid Air Pure is going to make production of the Tesla Model S rather unnecessary.
Could you ask Peter why the Lucid Air is not available in a light interior? We bought a Model S because the Lucid Air is only available with a black interior up front. When I asked Lucid about the option of a light interior, they told me the car is designed like a jet with black seats up front and other seat options in the back. I politely told them we are buying a car and not a jet. Such arrogance to not realize customers may want another color besides black for the front seats.
bad comparison - major difference in sizes and weight. but yeah, they should get one and replace it with their tech and see how it performs in comparison
It's 5 miles / kWh by EPA measurement. That means that the car is tested in all different situations and averages on that figure. Your car most definitely can't reach that.
Well said and the 2020&21 tesla model 3 rwd models with the 50-52kwh nmc pack's which weighed 3,560# already got 5+miles per kwh official epa range! Not to mention numerous real world range tests of lucid show it's batteries aren't the size claimed+most reviewers can't get within 10-15% of the rated ranges. 1 pure reviewer recently managed 320 miles at 70 mph vs rated 420 miles of range&used over 90kwhs to recharge a supposed 84 kwh pack. Just like the air dreams use over 140+kwhs to recharge an alleged 118kwh pack. 🤔
@@4literv6 BS. I easily can get 400 miles in my Pure at 70. I'm averaging 4.3 miles / kWh over 3,000 miles of ownership, which includes a ton of hilly roads for commute and AC on almost all the time over summer. My best was 5.8 miles / kWh on a 140 mile road trip (~55mph most of it, no AC)
Yes, thank you for m/kWh! I watch Bjørn Nyland who is a number ninja and he talks in wh/km then moves a decimal point too which I find utterly baffling being number blind. The added info from Peter about 30mpg being similar to 3m/kWh. My Ioniq 38kWh gets 6m/kWh and more, in Normal mode no hypermiling, easily btw and in winter the lowest we see is 3.8-4m/kWh.😄👍
Aye. The original Ioniqs were outstanding. My 2018 Ioniq Electric easily does 100 Wh/km or better as well. 😂 It is a shame that almost all new cars today don't have efficiency like ours. 😔
It's always interesting to listen to Rawlinson. Now if they could just make a van like the Stella Vita that had a pretty good Cd and remarkably small frontal area so you got a useful size van but could still move around on sensible amounts of juice. Looks like it had 373 miles from a 60kWh battery which is 6.2 miles per kWh. Pretty amazing for such a big vehicle.
Brilliant interview - just hope they make it happen and soon. Huge leaps in the current EV space and even more coming with motors and batteries. New word of the year "asymptotically"
Sales are going to be a big problem for Lucid , yes they have a brilliantly engineered product , but they lack the first mover advantage Tesla had , they also lack the star power Elon had , has , the product isn't particularly good looking , so all they really have is some more internal space and a bit of extra range. They need something more than that to ignite sales. They need some amazing tech that no other company has yet , they need some sort of brand appeal also. That's going to be very tricky , but there is options they can do. Kudos for Peter for doing the impossible for most engineers.
@@johnreed5056 yes I see what you mean , and what they have is amazing, but was thinking of some other additional tech to improve the driver life , that no other car manufacturer has . That would compel people to buy over another brand.
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Miles per kwh is a bloody good way to standarize concept. I can't get my head around of anything else. Great approach. Albeit Kms per kwh would be best
One thing that would concern me is the lucid put their cells in upside down, how good a seal is in the cell? Is there any chance electrolyte will work its way out of the top of the cell, since now the top of the cell is at the bottom.
I hear they've been talking to aptera lately... if the start adding solar to a lucid with full bidirectional charging I will get one. (I also plan to get an aptera and a Silverado EV) Love this video. So good. I'm glad they're following the Tesla blue print of working theie way down to more accessible. It's more likely to work than otherwise.
Fantastic interview. Wow 5 miles per kwh. Thats amazing. Currently in my mind a 100kwh battery gives a range of 300 miles. So with lucid tech will get 500 mile range. Thats mega.
@@reaperofdoom6146 those costs was actually to build the factory expansion for phase 2. the costs will only be able to turn around when they start selling the midsize in a couple years.
@@fayewong21 if Lucid can't make money on a really expensive car, it's not going to be any easier to make money on a cheaper car. And volume doesn't help; the more cars it sells, the more money Lucid loses. If it weren't for unlimited money from Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bonesaw, Lucid would be verging on bankruptcy.
As long as it is a sensible size. All these cars made in US seem to be very wide and tricky on UK roads and carparks. Got a feeling that Rivian Compact will be too wide for my interest
Imogen Bhopal is an ex-Jaguar aerodynamics engineer and worked at defunct startup Arrival. So, put simply, she knows a thing or two. Knows how to conduct an interview too. 😊
What is evidence Peter is failing? Anyone who can get a multi-million dollar salary when his company consistently loses money for several years sounds like a Winner to me. If anyone is failing, it’s Lucid board of directors authorizing his comp package.
5 miles per kWh is excellent but it's not mythical. Some BEVs will average that and you don't have "drive like a vicar", as Robert would have it. The original Hyundai Ioniq is one, so that's something from a long way back. Teslas will routinely do 5m/kWh if owners can avoid the temptation of lead footedness. My own VW ID3 PPro does 5 on average at any time other than the cooler months (no heat pump), and during a recent road trip over 500 miles did 6.3 (VWs are said to report a tad more efficient than they actually are). So, as long as you don't do loads of BEV acceleration you can get real efficiency. I know Peter is aiming for year in/year out, all driving conditions 5mi/kWh, with 6 and more fairly easily achievable elsewhere.
He's talking on EPA standard combined cycle. On that test the best tested is 4.2mls/kwh. That's the ionic 6, with the lucid air currently on 4.1 (although the lucid is more efficient on highway cycle). An almost 20% increase on the market leader is pretty big.
Isn’t China already supplying excellent EVs at affordable prices in industrial volume? Europe and the US are so far behind in the game as they thought they could perpetuate combustion vehicle production at the expense of global climate stability and pollution related health outcomes. The world’s climate crisis needs this technology now. There’s no time left for creating competing brands when the supply already exists. Especially we must resist any attempt to exact tariffs on EVs from the Far East in order to ease the transition to electric vehicles as soon as possible
The other one was focused on the car. And they drove around Northern California. Beautiful B-roll! Maybe they had enough left over film for another video.
I agree, Gravity will be a game changer for Lucid. While I really respect the Air for all the technology in it, I want a better SUV. I see Gravity as a vehicle that can finally do that as an EV.
There are lots of excellent large-midsize EV SUVs, with more coming. The Gravity will compete with the Rivian R1S, the Kia EV9, the Volvo EX90, ... the Air has fewer competitors and better tech than the Mercedes EQE/EQS and Tesla Model S, and it's struggling; so too will the Gravity. I hope it survives,, but Lucid is going to need a lot more checks from Mohammed Bonesaw.
@@skierpage It however, if anything like the Air, will be the ONLY EV that can make a frequent drive from the OKC area to Pueblo, CO on one charge stop (of 27 minutes). That's acceptable, anything else is not. That's what efficiency gains you. Still not as quick as gas, but darn close.
The Lucid Air Pure version starts at $71,400 and prices go up to $250,500 for the bonkers Sapphire version. Lucid's loss from operations was $787,417,000 in Q2 2024, and it delivered 2,394 cars, so its loss per vehicle was a staggering $328,912 last quarter. Its revenue was only $200M. Those checks from Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bonesaw had better keep coming!
The price of the Pure in Europe is too high. Probably due to tariffs. They need to open a factory in Europe. They need a right hand drive as well. Finally, why-oh-why-oh-why can't it be a hatchback. The Air is an amazing car though. This interview just makes me want to buy an Air more. Such an interesting person.
Great interview, however I don’t agree with “any OEM can do it tomorrow”. Lucid started from the ground up. OEMs have factories, suppliers, knowledge and more adapted to ICE and are changing rapidly. However if you start from scratch like Tesla, everything you do and built is designed for EV. Likewise with marketing, people wont simply know Lucid is better, you have to invest in marketing!
Europeans are used to talking in consumption, rather than efficiency. Not sure they find efficiency more meaningful. There is also an interesting issue with only one measure being linear (because 1/ cannot be linear if is. So for efficiency 53mpg is not the same amount better than 50 mpg that 33mpg is better than 30 mpg. Do it in consumption terms and the difference is the same. That's why consumption is actually a better measure.
A very interesting interview. He is clearly an impressive engineer. However, I thought his reasons for not selling more cars were a bit lame and his point about battery sizes was off given the smallest battery any of his cars have is 84 kWh. Why not limit range to 300 miles with rapid charging speed?
Being the best selling car does not mean it is the best car! Tesla could only dream being as good as a Lucid! Lucid definitely has better leadership! The future will tell the story!
Loving the indepth tech detail. Also find it cool , how he enjoys building things , like his father helped to build his own toys , how he built his own house , how he worked with stone , hes a builder, with ambition. Thats a great foundation.
fire your pr team
What an inspiration! Nice interview!🇨🇦
What a wonderful interview. It was great to hear Peter offered meaningful questions and being given the space to respond. Late in the interview we learn more about Peter's personal history with some details totally new to me, but also filling in how one event led to the next on the path to Lucid.
She opened him really up through her charming way and clever questions. :-)
True.
BTW, we have a phrase here in the UK "she's the cat's mother" for when people say "she" when their name would be more appropriate. I'm sure Imogen would rather you used her name 🙂
Spat my coffee out at that ! Can you give an example of a tough question? … nope !
One of the most joyous drives of my life was chasing a Lotus Elise from Pireaus Harbour on one side of Greece to Patras Harbour on the other. This was before the days of Sat Nav and the Elise was driven by a British Army Officer who had got on the same ferry in Limassol as us. We (my wife and I) had chatted with him during the three day journey from Cyprus, and realised we could dispense with maps written in Greek Cyrillics as he knew the route. He didn’t know we were following him, and boy did he enjoy driving that Elise! I was in a new VW Passat (the updated version from ‘98) so keeping up with him was quite a feat!
Beautiful countryside, the thrill of the chase, the worry of missing the ferry on the other side. Absolutely amazing.
What a delightful interview! Imogen, you are amazing to watch - intelligent, articulate, charming and gorgeous. Peter Rawlinson is fascinating and has a touch of the mad professor about him. Truly one of the best interviews in your amazing catalogue at EE. Keep up the great work. We love it!
I’ve watched Peter Rawlinson in pretty much every interview he’s ever done and I’ve never seen him grin ear-to-ear or talk with such a twinkle in his eye but I guess that’s what happens when you put a beautiful woman in front of a man. Good move Fully Charged.
Wow this was a good interview, good job imogen actually, really good questions.
I have seen the Munro tear down of the Lucid Pack and that was really eye opening
Great interview. Peter is a delight to listen to. His passion is inspirational.
Thank you. This was one of Peter‘s better interviews.
This is an excellent interview. Great job Imogen & team.
Great interview. I always enjoy Peter speaking.
I always enjoy Imogen speaking 😍
Great story about his love of engineering seemingly fostered by his father. Shows the importance of fostering children's interests so they can hopefully reach their full potential
Peter Rawlinson loves cars, and he is admirably focused on the product.
Elon Musk also talks about the factory being the key to Tesla's success, and I think that is very important.
Hopefully Lucid will succeed.
Tesla slightly benefited from being the first movers. But they also managed to make a profitable company after 5-8 years. It looked inevitable, but now I see it wasn't inevitable.
They also benefited from the ZEV-Credits from other car makers, you may say the old ice-car-comanies financed the expansion of Tesla
@@marting1056 Tesla got each of its car models to gross profit margin (so that it didn't lose money making each car) within a year of production. Lucid (and Rivian) still haven't done that. They make great cars, but they're not going to survive unless they figure it out.
@@skierpage Tesla nearly went bankrupt many times. Around 2017-18, Elon tried to sell Tesla to Apple!!!!
Also, Toyota and Mercedes were major shareholders of Tesla. Mercedes sold off their shares around 2015-16.
They have missed every promise they ever made.
Their production and sales numbers are pitiful.
Look at the share price.
@@curtisalex456But look at them now ! Lucid don’t have any future.
Great interview. Can’t help but be inspired by Rawlinson’s passion and enthusiasm and he’s Welsh! Agree totally we should be going down the efficiency line and not bigger and bigger batteries.
Magnificent. I'm going to recommend this to Aptera fanboys. I want a Lucid.
Best car I ever bought, go lease it, you will never regret it!
It may be ok to lease now with improvements, but it was awful in early 2023 when price was $155K. Listen closely to reviews and test drive it with a keen eye to make sure you can accept its weaknesses.
Do you drive it on long distance trips where fast charging is required? I doubt it.
Tesla fan ,
No doubt lucid have some cool tech , hope to see them thrive in the future .
Tesla and the chinese oems need some real competition
What we’re seeing with Lucid is just how far Saudi investors are ready to go to make this project work. I predict their factory in Saudi Arabia will be short lived. Unless they merge with a Chinese manufacturer, I don’t expect they’ll survive.
Brilliant questions. Wonderful answers. Two stars twinkling.
When will they come to the UK?
Wondering the same thing. Considering Peter is English , you’d think it would be a priority for him.
Supposed to be coming in 2025, ,but they might wait until they have that smaller vehicle. The UK doesn’t really need a 500 mile EV, a smaller form factor 300-400 mile EV with a 60kWh ish battery would be better. Don’t know that efficiency will be a big selling point with most of the public though, they might need to find another USP. To my mind they as a proposition are no different to the other dozen or so brands occupying the space, and it’s the packing that is probably more important for me - does it fit my lifestyle - can’t say any of their current cars appeal to me very much.
More like this, please. Imogen does a great job of showing what one engineer can draw out from another.
Love seeing the dolce Imogen charming Peter. What a combo. Great stories on Lucid.
EPA rated 2025 Air Pure at 146 MPGe or 23 kWh/100mi. This translates to 4.33 miles per kWh. The 5 mi/kWh referred to is perhaps the in car display, without the charging loss from the wall.
Seriously can't get enough of listening to Peter, fantastic Interview Imogen. If there was a 3hour version of this I'd still be entertained.
However! No question about RHD versions? When are they coming, Come on Peter you are from the UK!
What makes RUclips great are interviews like this. Thanks for sharing. A good question to ask Peter next time you get the chance to interview him is, "why hydrogen cars will never become a mass market reality". I know there are a handful of cars in the world, but for most people it is very clear battery powered cars are the future to enable the world to move away from diesel and petrol engines. Peter would be far more articulate and authoritative than me, when explaining this.
Love the emphasis on efficiency! Range is second to this!
Took me 3 attempts to listen to the end of this because I kept falling asleep! Must be your calming dulcit tones Imogen.
This is the first time I've seen you, Imogen. You were fantastic! Thanks for bringing this to us!
It's a talent to do interviews - Imogen you nailed it. Well done :) Great to see peter being very open and giving insight into the journey. That being said HURRY UP WITH GRAVITY PETER!!
Did he mention thier model Y rival? I didnt notice
Bravo, Imogen, for the fascinating deep dive. And Peter, for making pound-for-pound, the best EVs on the market. Herculean effort to get to this point. Wish nothing but the best for Gravity and beyond; NB Gravity looks like it will join its Air older sibling to take out its own Car of the Year gong(s) next year.
Thank you so much, Peter, for sharing from the heart. I think blursed is the word you were looking for 😉
Lucid I'm all in 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Absolutely fascinating interview Imogen 👏👏👏 You are the best!
A s a Designer for me that was a beautiful and engaging emotional interview, I don't mind share I had tiers of shear joy at the end. Thank you Imogen and your team for a very special meeting of minds! God knows the world needs more of this!!
Great conversation and very illuminating. I don't think I've ever heard Mr. Rawlinson so animated. This guy is the real deal. I can't wait to seewhat they either bring to market, or help to bring to marke,t in the future. Thank you!
100% enjoyed this. 100% in tune with this thinking. Hoping people share this focus on solutions, not politics or self empowerment. Good luck!!
Brilliant. Hope he succeeds big time !!
If anything could make me spend £40,000 on a car - it would be this level of attention to detailed design and efficiency. Amazing engineer/CTO/CEO!
Terrific interview. Enjoyed the professionalism with how the interview occurred. Thank you for the video I enjoyed watching
This was such a fantastic interview! Thanks again Imogen :-) You really brought out the best in Peter and it shows.
Everthing Electric looking forward to see the Team in Sydney 2025.
Great interview, Lucid is doing amazing job getting efficiency to EVs, but we need more affordable models from them 😊❤
A delightful interview with an inspiring corporate leader/tech expert. Not surprising that he can sell Lucid to potential investors and prospective employees. One can only hope that the goal of making an affordable efficient car. Without that eventuality, widespread EV adoption is unlikely to happen
The classic Ioniq would do 5.7 or 6.2 miles/kWh long distance on the motorway in the Summer. I did 3 Summers in one, 35k miles a year.
The Ionic was a very efficient car.
if we account for frontal area (cd/a, as Peter points out), the ionic has a frontal area of 2.639 m2 vs the Lucid with 2.734 m2 - which gives the Ionic the opportunity to offset its Cd of 2.4 vs the Lucid with 0.21. It's also over 700Kg lighter, which certainly makes a very big difference, particularly when your are accelerating and decelerating a lot.
GENIOUS!!!
very cool!
This was amazing to listen to. I think I will give a closer look at their cars. Very fascinating.
What Peter says about the back seat in the Model S is spot on. My first ever sit in a Tesla was in a Model S back seat... just to try it out. I'm 6 ft 3, and it was a definite "no" as an option to be a back seat passenger.
It's ironic that Tesla made that work for the Model 3, but have not gone back to fix it for the Model S.
I rather suspect that the Lucid Air Pure is going to make production of the Tesla Model S rather unnecessary.
Seems like a father daughter interview. Good information with mostly soft-ball questions. Missing was 1-2 hard ones.
Could you ask Peter why the Lucid Air is not available in a light interior? We bought a Model S because the Lucid Air is only available with a black interior up front. When I asked Lucid about the option of a light interior, they told me the car is designed like a jet with black seats up front and other seat options in the back. I politely told them we are buying a car and not a jet. Such arrogance to not realize customers may want another color besides black for the front seats.
Karen, is that you?
"Such arrogance...." ???
It's like you have no sense of irony 🤣
Like a loving chat between father and miniaturised daughter.
Listening to Peter talk for a good part of 43 minutes is a blessing my ears needed this week.
The future is here, Lucid ✔️
5mpkwh as some amazing breakthrough. My 2016 Hyundai Ioniq gets 4.9mpkwh. Where is the huge progress?
bad comparison - major difference in sizes and weight. but yeah, they should get one and replace it with their tech and see how it performs in comparison
It's 5 miles / kWh by EPA measurement. That means that the car is tested in all different situations and averages on that figure. Your car most definitely can't reach that.
Well said and the 2020&21 tesla model 3 rwd models with the 50-52kwh nmc pack's which weighed 3,560# already got 5+miles per kwh official epa range!
Not to mention numerous real world range tests of lucid show it's batteries aren't the size claimed+most reviewers can't get within 10-15% of the rated ranges. 1 pure reviewer recently managed 320 miles at 70 mph vs rated 420 miles of range&used over 90kwhs to recharge a supposed 84 kwh pack. Just like the air dreams use over 140+kwhs to recharge an alleged 118kwh pack. 🤔
The EPA test is so much nonsense. I achieve 4.9 mpkwh in a very hilly city. If I lived in a flatter area, I would exceed 5mpkwh.@@mmmmmmmmmm493
@@4literv6 BS. I easily can get 400 miles in my Pure at 70. I'm averaging 4.3 miles / kWh over 3,000 miles of ownership, which includes a ton of hilly roads for commute and AC on almost all the time over summer. My best was 5.8 miles / kWh on a 140 mile road trip (~55mph most of it, no AC)
Legend!!
He did a great job of the Model S, so I'm sure the Lucid Air is so much better. Pity they don't have a RHD version yet.
Yes, thank you for m/kWh! I watch Bjørn Nyland who is a number ninja and he talks in wh/km then moves a decimal point too which I find utterly baffling being number blind. The added info from Peter about 30mpg being similar to 3m/kWh.
My Ioniq 38kWh gets 6m/kWh and more, in Normal mode no hypermiling, easily btw and in winter the lowest we see is 3.8-4m/kWh.😄👍
Aye. The original Ioniqs were outstanding. My 2018 Ioniq Electric easily does 100 Wh/km or better as well. 😂 It is a shame that almost all new cars today don't have efficiency like ours. 😔
Rawlinson should buy a couple of those and replace the tech in one of them with Lucids and then he can benchmark just how well their tech does
It's always interesting to listen to Rawlinson. Now if they could just make a van like the Stella Vita that had a pretty good Cd and remarkably small frontal area so you got a useful size van but could still move around on sensible amounts of juice. Looks like it had 373 miles from a 60kWh battery which is 6.2 miles per kWh. Pretty amazing for such a big vehicle.
Lucid has no plans to make such a vehicle.
Really interesting interview, thank you
Brilliant interview - just hope they make it happen and soon. Huge leaps in the current EV space and even more coming with motors and batteries.
New word of the year "asymptotically"
Go for President Peter.. they could do with an efficient Welsh engineering genius.
Sales are going to be a big problem for Lucid , yes they have a brilliantly engineered product , but they lack the first mover advantage Tesla had , they also lack the star power Elon had , has , the product isn't particularly good looking , so all they really have is some more internal space and a bit of extra range. They need something more than that to ignite sales. They need some amazing tech that no other company has yet , they need some sort of brand appeal also. That's going to be very tricky , but there is options they can do. Kudos for Peter for doing the impossible for most engineers.
" They need some amazing tech that no other company has yet". Lucid indeed has amazing tech that no other company has yet.
It doesn’t matter if they can’t manufacture it at prices most people can afford.
@@johnreed5056 yes I see what you mean , and what they have is amazing, but was thinking of some other additional tech to improve the driver life , that no other car manufacturer has . That would compel people to buy over another brand.
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Miles per kwh is a bloody good way to standarize concept. I can't get my head around of anything else. Great approach. Albeit Kms per kwh would be best
One thing that would concern me is the lucid put their cells in upside down, how good a seal is in the cell? Is there any chance electrolyte will work its way out of the top of the cell, since now the top of the cell is at the bottom.
I hear they've been talking to aptera lately... if the start adding solar to a lucid with full bidirectional charging I will get one. (I also plan to get an aptera and a Silverado EV)
Love this video. So good.
I'm glad they're following the Tesla blue print of working theie way down to more accessible. It's more likely to work than otherwise.
Fantastic interview. Wow 5 miles per kwh. Thats amazing. Currently in my mind a 100kwh battery gives a range of 300 miles. So with lucid tech will get 500 mile range. Thats mega.
sadly they lose $130,000 per car they sell, he needs to get their costs under control.
@@reaperofdoom6146 those costs was actually to build the factory expansion for phase 2. the costs will only be able to turn around when they start selling the midsize in a couple years.
@@fayewong21 if Lucid can't make money on a really expensive car, it's not going to be any easier to make money on a cheaper car. And volume doesn't help; the more cars it sells, the more money Lucid loses. If it weren't for unlimited money from Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bonesaw, Lucid would be verging on bankruptcy.
Where I come from Wh/km is perfectly normal, miles/kWh is backwards. 😄 All depends what you're used to.
Bring Lucid Gravity Pure to EU - steel roof, maybe no air ride, consider 3 seats in middle row, not bench - for big family usage.
As long as it is a sensible size. All these cars made in US seem to be very wide and tricky on UK roads and carparks. Got a feeling that Rivian Compact will be too wide for my interest
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for sharing.
more interviews with this lady. she made the interview. Peter is failing. Is Cory helping?
She did a great interview , very clued in.
Imogen Bhopal is an ex-Jaguar aerodynamics engineer and worked at defunct startup Arrival. So, put simply, she knows a thing or two. Knows how to conduct an interview too. 😊
Is Cory at Lucid? Anyone know?
What is evidence Peter is failing? Anyone who can get a multi-million dollar salary when his company consistently loses money for several years sounds like a Winner to me. If anyone is failing, it’s Lucid board of directors authorizing his comp package.
@@ramblerandy2397 she sure does , great when a engineer talks to another engineer
*He’s a brilliant engineer and a super-salesman who has lined his pockets at the expense of Lucid investors*
*Lucid won’t exist in 3 years*
The highest paid CEO in the entire world of a company that burns money like crazy
Lucid also needs more mobile support and service centers in US.
excellent
My pet peeve when energy consumption is called efficiency
5 miles per kWh is excellent but it's not mythical. Some BEVs will average that and you don't have "drive like a vicar", as Robert would have it.
The original Hyundai Ioniq is one, so that's something from a long way back. Teslas will routinely do 5m/kWh if owners can avoid the temptation of lead footedness. My own VW ID3 PPro does 5 on average at any time other than the cooler months (no heat pump), and during a recent road trip over 500 miles did 6.3 (VWs are said to report a tad more efficient than they actually are). So, as long as you don't do loads of BEV acceleration you can get real efficiency. I know Peter is aiming for year in/year out, all driving conditions 5mi/kWh, with 6 and more fairly easily achievable elsewhere.
He's talking on EPA standard combined cycle. On that test the best tested is 4.2mls/kwh. That's the ionic 6, with the lucid air currently on 4.1 (although the lucid is more efficient on highway cycle). An almost 20% increase on the market leader is pretty big.
@@skinnyweb Oh I get that. I was writing about real world driving, which is often slightly less than the EPA cycle.
Isn’t China already supplying excellent EVs at affordable prices in industrial volume? Europe and the US are so far behind in the game as they thought they could perpetuate combustion vehicle production at the expense of global climate stability and pollution related health outcomes. The world’s climate crisis needs this technology now. There’s no time left for creating competing brands when the supply already exists. Especially we must resist any attempt to exact tariffs on EVs from the Far East in order to ease the transition to electric vehicles as soon as possible
Peter is my favourite car company CEO.
Imogen is utterly gorgeous, but failed to ask any tough questions.
Hasn't this interview already been published once before?
That's what I was thinking.
The other one was focused on the car. And they drove around Northern California. Beautiful B-roll!
Maybe they had enough left over film for another video.
Different questions. Different interview.
@@fayewong21 No, there's plenty of footage from the first.
@@space.youtube the first was more about the car. This is more about Peter's experience with manufacturing, his past， etc
Lucid is still getting investment for now.
Bravo!
I agree, Gravity will be a game changer for Lucid. While I really respect the Air for all the technology in it, I want a better SUV. I see Gravity as a vehicle that can finally do that as an EV.
There are lots of excellent large-midsize EV SUVs, with more coming. The Gravity will compete with the Rivian R1S, the Kia EV9, the Volvo EX90, ... the Air has fewer competitors and better tech than the Mercedes EQE/EQS and Tesla Model S, and it's struggling; so too will the Gravity. I hope it survives,, but Lucid is going to need a lot more checks from Mohammed Bonesaw.
@@skierpage It however, if anything like the Air, will be the ONLY EV that can make a frequent drive from the OKC area to Pueblo, CO on one charge stop (of 27 minutes). That's acceptable, anything else is not. That's what efficiency gains you. Still not as quick as gas, but darn close.
How much does a lucid cost and how much profit does lucid make on each car ?
The Lucid Air Pure version starts at $71,400 and prices go up to $250,500 for the bonkers Sapphire version.
Lucid's loss from operations was $787,417,000 in Q2 2024, and it delivered 2,394 cars, so its loss per vehicle was a staggering $328,912 last quarter. Its revenue was only $200M. Those checks from Saudi Arabia's Mohammed Bonesaw had better keep coming!
The [reality distortion] Force [field] is strong with this one...
The price of the Pure in Europe is too high. Probably due to tariffs. They need to open a factory in Europe. They need a right hand drive as well. Finally, why-oh-why-oh-why can't it be a hatchback. The Air is an amazing car though. This interview just makes me want to buy an Air more. Such an interesting person.
Great interview, however I don’t agree with “any OEM can do it tomorrow”. Lucid started from the ground up. OEMs have factories, suppliers, knowledge and more adapted to ICE and are changing rapidly. However if you start from scratch like Tesla, everything you do and built is designed for EV. Likewise with marketing, people wont simply know Lucid is better, you have to invest in marketing!
„This is what Model S could have been„ Thank god it wasn’t a failure like Lucid!
it took Tesla quite a while to be profitable and almost went bankrupt a few times. Model S is a tin bucket compared to the Lucid Air
I hope Lucid will succeed, in spite of the coming Chinese onslaught.
Peter, you need to generate money, not just absorb it.
Europeans are used to talking in consumption, rather than efficiency. Not sure they find efficiency more meaningful. There is also an interesting issue with only one measure being linear (because 1/ cannot be linear if is. So for efficiency 53mpg is not the same amount better than 50 mpg that 33mpg is better than 30 mpg. Do it in consumption terms and the difference is the same. That's why consumption is actually a better measure.
Where my LCID bag holders at?
Looks like lcid is on life support by saudi
A very interesting interview. He is clearly an impressive engineer. However, I thought his reasons for not selling more cars were a bit lame and his point about battery sizes was off given the smallest battery any of his cars have is 84 kWh. Why not limit range to 300 miles with rapid charging speed?
This is an advertisment for Lucid,nothing more.
Peter Rawlins is so clearly a true engineering mind, like Elon Musk, but has focus on his company, unlike Elon Musk.
🏁🏆🎉Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023, Peter Rawlingson! 😃
Being the best selling car does not mean it is the best car! Tesla could only dream being as good as a Lucid! Lucid definitely has better leadership! The future will tell the story!
Does Lucid have any plan of coming over to SE Asia?