Acura Integra Type S | Factory, Dyno, Street and Track Drive
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- We review and test the new 2024 Acura Integra Type S. First, we show the differences between Civic Type R on the Dyno, drive on the street, and track. Then we discuss the story behind the creation of this American-made hot hatch. Finally, we street and track drive the car to see if the changes made this car better. Others to consider are FL5 Type R, GR Corolla, Golf R, and Elantra N.
#cars #technology #engineering
Index:
00:00 Intro
00:38 Sights and Sounds
2:17 The Format TOC
3:23 The Story, What Acura Wanted to Do With Integra
9:18 Interior and Exterior, Audio and dB Testing
14:43 Mechanical Impression and Changes
17:27 Assembly Process, Built in United States, Ohio
19:53 Designing the Exhaust and Inspiration
22:42 Engine Calibration and Dyno, FL5 vs. DE5
24:27 Driving Impressions, Street
29:32 Driving Impressions, Track
36:00 Final Thoughts 
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You can really feel mark’s happiness and joy on the track. It’s very jarring, I need to see him back in a ford explorer.
Or a Mercedes EQ-something.
That was my favorite episode.
@@deanchurEQB
1997 Acura Integra Type R was $25k MSRP... $47k in 2023 dollars. So really not too far off of what they're asking now... also sobering look at inflation.
wow sobering indeed
And I'm guessing you used the CPI calculator for those figures which has been systemically under calculating inflation for years.
So why is a base Integra just $32,000? All they've done here is a facelift and a better engine... for a mere $19,000
@@bbartlow0307 Exactly. Not to mention that other cars with this motor go for less money....MSRP....
This engine does not warrant a 20 grand mark up. Its cheap, its been made for two decades, its just freaking K series and any 5 year old with their moms credit card can put one together like lego. The profit margins on this thing must be 25% or more.
@@flacjacket 👀
I thought 40 minutes was ridiculous but it was not. Very thorough 👍🏼
** thur-o
To see him show love to the RS was an unexpected bonus. Seems like a good dude hope he’s able to implement more of his ideas in the future.
The relationships you guys are building with automakers are making your videos so much better, keep up the great work!!!
I really like that more and more manufacturers are willing to give these guys open access to the engineers/designers/development team for some mostly open dialogue.
The amount of respect I have for Jonathan and Acura for assisting you guys is incredible. It seems like more manufacturers are helping and it is great to see!
I disagree. He's a part of the culprits who gives the nob to the oversized corporate front end beak to the entire line up for like 10+ years and no moon roof and rear seat center arm rest to this supposed to be the luxury Type R.
The way I see it is they don't wanna invest any more money on the exterior and slacking it til the electrification comes along. I hope the Acura brand could survive cuz I don't see many of them around.
@@kasio22Bhe was saying he has respect for them sitting down to answer questions on behalf of the manufacturer, not that he has respect for decision/choices made for the car itself.
@@jameswillard1 Sorry, my bad. Guess my rant went ahead before my head.
@@kasio22Band yet he still thinks the car is great 🤷♂️
with a 80k dealer price tag and a waiting list than at least need to blow them.
I like watching car reviews, but THIS is what I really want to see; the interviews with engineers and designers, the CAD drawings, the manufacturing footage, the nitty gritty technical details....I love that stuff, and this channel deliveries it in a way that few other channels even come close to. Thank you to all who contribute to these fantastic videos
This is the best video that you guys have done; I'm blown away by the production values, the integrity, the level of information and the genuine enthusiasm that flows throughout the whole 40 minutes. Thank you all and how the heck are you going to improve on this standard. 🥳
Agree. I think their breakthrough video is the one about the Z06. The level of cinematography mated to the value of the technical information is unparalleled.
haha integra-ty
X 3 … great work by some of the hardest working guys in (YT) show business!
Jonathan Rivers, you are a legend for coming on this show to explain to us what you are doing with the entire team. You definitely deserve all the praise for this car. You guys put in the work! ありがとう
I salute this in 日本語 (Japanese)、アキュラとホンダの皆様お疲れ様でした！
Trash car lol The non type s is even more trash
@@FnGRZupra Rivers is a flimflam man. Like he had any say in the DNA of this car. He is the messenger with a phony story. A BS artist. Public is dumb. New Integra S with mark up will be a $70K Civic.
@@FnGRZupraokay KBoy 우리의 영광스러운 자동차를 지켜주셔서 감사합니다. ₩500,000원이 귀하의 은행 계좌에 입금되었습니다. 도와 주셔서 감사합니다. 현대에 영광을.
Salute to Mark and Jack for the quality of the content, which is actually rare in this social space which is driven by views, we know its tough to put together and we appreciate what you guys are doing🫡
That tidbit about the Focus RS being an inspiration for the Type S's development is something I never saw anywhere else. Really valuable insight there that they were able to draw out of the Acura product planner.
I will always be impressed by these reviews. That you got Acura development involved is what elevates this channel far above ALL other car review channels. Period.
I wish these videos would get more views.... The amount of effort that goes into these videos is not going unnoticed. The objective and unbiased perceptions of each car you do is unmatched. You guys hit every single aspect of the car. Nobody goes into the amount of detail in an entertaining way morw than you guys. From enthusiasts to potential car buyers you guys create some awesome content!
I swear the videos this channel produces are absolutely unmatched. No other channel gives you this much detail in all aspects when it comes to car reviews. Fantastic work guys!
A lot better than other channel specially the one with gay dude.
These guys put in A LOT of work into every single video. I’ve followed them for years and don’t understand why they’re not over the 1m subs yet. Notice how they they don’t put out tons of reviews but each review is a methodical masterpiece with focus on the technical stuff.
@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 bro get that shit outta here.
Only other one I can think of is Alex on Autos but he has nothing on the production quality of SavageGeese.
@@janoycresnova9156 yes, that’s my other favorite. Alex puts LOTS of specs etc on his videos as well and notice how, his channel is a bit smaller than others.
I LOVE that he went out and bought a Focus RS for research purposes for his team
As an RS owner, I can’t help being proud that this car is still influential even though it has been out of production for over 5 years. Can’t wait to hear the Type S in person.
Unfortunately price killed the RS. That's why you never see them on the road, even in Michigan where they're from. Every other car is a Mustang. They on the other hand sold like hotcakes
@@paulvicks1336I believe the RS was designed and built in Germany by the European Ford team. The car likely didn’t sell well because of its engine problems and lack of comfort compared to the competition.
@@jbrandon302 It is less stiff than the new CTR. Unfortunately you are right about the gasket issue being overblown, leading to some potential buyers to look elsewhere.
@paulvicks1336 price didn't kill the RS. They were never offered with incentives from Ford. All of them sold, many with dealer markup, and very few with dealer discounts. Those that were discounted by dealers were mostly from dealerships that had sat on them with crazy markups for a long time while later model years became available or other dealerships charged less markup. None of this would have been the case if Ford had priced the RS poorly.
The RS isn't from Michigan. It was designed primarily in Europe, and assembled in Germany. It was imported from Germany, and has a German VIN.
The RS, like those before it, was a planned 3 year production run from the beginning. Perhaps the limited production for the final model year was a result of the use of the improper head gasket in prior year's production, though.
As someone who swore off Hondas because of the toxic community and dealership experience, your review has caused me to reconsider this. If you’re a parent who wants something that is more practical than a coupe and costs less than $70k, this seems like a solid choice. Mark ups aren’t palatable to me, but when you don’t have a lot of choices that are new, shopping for a dealer that will be more fair is critical.
I don't know why anyone would pay a dealer markup. I paid 2500 under msrp for my tlx type s when everyone was talking about markups on theirs. Interest rates are already horrible for excellent credit.
@@Mike-lt6sj No body wants that car (TLX Type S) compared to this car. Everyone wants this car. They're sold before they even reach the dealerships. The handling and inputs are just much better in the Integra. I guess if you must have an automatic then a TLX is a good option.
@@spaceenthusiast5242 That's a tad too small for me. I had an accord coupe and the Integra is smaller than that. FWD works in snow, but AWD is king. I would love a manual transmission, though.
The epitome of what makes SG the best: high production value, super deep dives into all aspects of the car, OEM participation, objective review. Been watching for years and remain impressed with every video, thank you as always!
You're firing on all cylinders, absolutely amazing storytelling, guys!
Jeez y’all have the best video production Ive seen for car reviews. Great work guys!
I know 4k HDR is beautiful and almost nobody is doing it! The color correction for a video with so many different upscalings going on must be a PIA. It look’s pretty good and will only get better. Thanks Savage!
No. Speedlabs by motor envy has the best production quality, but this is still pretty good!
🙏 please keep making videos of this depth! The technical discussion with OEM perspectives adds a lot of context to their decision making process, then it all comes full circle on the test drive. Jack and Mark, you are next level. I've been watching for years and feel obliged to donate after seeing this. Great work guys! 😎👌 stay kewl
Cringe, stop giving money to RUclipsrs
@@taekwoncrawfish9418it's not your money, why do you care cheapo?
@@taekwoncrawfish9418who should we give money to?
@@jesustsa1 local charities?
@@taekwoncrawfish9418It is free content that exists purely by viewer support. We dont get paid by OEMs. We appreciate when people care enough to help.
When they started talking about the exhaust, and he started building up to the car they wanted to strive towards with “emotional sound”, I was whispering “say the RS, say the RS” and I fist pumped when he said it. The RS really nailed the pops and bangs to sound like a chaotic hot hatch without being a bmw with a burble tune.
I have VERY fond memories of my base/low trim level Civics. The memorable thing about 90s Hondas for me is they all were decently fun to throw around
And lots of HS kids these days agree! 😆
@@chuckcribbs3398 haha I can't even find 90s Hondas around anymore 😢
Maybe they were tuned differently in the UK, but I had a 96 civic. The soft suspension and utterly remote steering were total turn offs. Engines and gearbox tho.... wow!
Drive a 2016-2020 Civic Sport or LX sedan or coupe with the 2 liter NA engine and manual transmission.
Because they weighed nothing. This will not be the same in modern day civic or integra.
$55,000 is a pretty steep entry price. With dealers already adding $15k to $20k markup on these...it becomes totally irrelevant. No one with any sense is going to pay $70,000 for this Integra.
Sports cars are soon to start at $100k in this stagflation. Buy your dream car while you can
No sane person is going to buy it even for MSRP (+taxes, docs, etc), this is ridiculously niche and out of touch product...
@@rosgoncharuk2403 Honestly, you make a great point. $55,000 for a 300hp FWD 4-banger is already asking a lot.
@@rosgoncharuk2403 agreed. Unfortunately 😢
$55k is a bit steep for this car in my opinion as well (under $50k loaded would be fair). But I think there will be those that will pay that for this car given the heritage and they want a car more refined than the CTR. But to have dealers tack on $15k to $20k further crowds out the buyer pool who would pay $55k. Then the manufacturers stop making them because sales were dismal. The dealers are literally bottlenecking the manufacturers' new car sales. They already make plenty of money already with the invoice-MSRP and financing spreads.
Once again setting the bar for automative videos. Thanks for everything you guys do for us car nuts.
You can see how happy/excited Mark is driving this on track. You had fun with this project and it’s great to see. Great video gents!
My local dealer has 5 of them, and as of this morning only one was accounted for. They told me that they were “forced” to have them equipped with all the accessories, and are going to be locked in at 10k over MSRP.
Honda being honda. Waiting till their cars are worthless to buy them for half off when poeple just stop buying into their BS pricing.
The interest rates are brutalizing dealers right now, they're trying to hide the fact that inventory is normalizing by hiding cars like the snakes they are. They won't be able to sustain their little markup games much longer.
So roughly $65k. Crazy.
They can fuck off with this pile...
I live in nw Florida. Called about a white one: 80k. Before I hung up, they said “we won’t lose a customer over price.” I couldn’t help but laugh.
First car I bought new was an Integra RS in 1987. It was a 1986 model, but with Acura being a new brand name people didn't realize what it was which was essentially an upgraded civic with a different body.
Only 99 hpp, but I drove it like I stole it for years. Over 275k miles wheen I sold it.
Similar to the CR-X Si! I loved that car but college got in the way. 🥴
I love my 00 Integra. I'll be it's last owner.
most detailed deep dive car reviews period, no one comes close with how technical, nerdy and objective as savagegeese. super happy to see the manufactures involved with helping produce quality deep dives into the development behind certain cars. always a pleasure to watch and enjoy. kudos to honda/acura, GM and porsche for recognizing how important these videos can be to the enthusiast.
"If you want a car like this, this is your only option. Thankfully, it is a pretty good car. Sorry, nothing is affordable anymore." That's what I got from this video.
That's what I'm getting from everywhere. What's the solution?
Vote Dem 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If we only get half as many videos, but they're all like this, I'm all for it.
Much like my 2nd wife, I was much more of a fan of the new Integra when it got wider.
I was less a fan of your 2nd wife when she got wider.
Great stuff!
Thanks to all involved.
I'm happy to support this channel, it delivers.
Another masterpiece in production Mark and Jack! You guys are the benchmark!
One of your best 'in depths' IMO, Mark and Jack. Thank you. 🙏👍👏
Excellent production as usual guys. Loyal viewer and fan of your work. I'm proud to be a part of the team helping to get the Type S on the road for enthusiasts.
I am in between jobs right now, but I wish I could donate to help this channel keep going. You guys have taught me so much about engineering as when it comes to cars, and I am eternally grateful. Fantastic video as always.
I normally don't watch 40 minute videos on youtube, but this one felt like it was over in 15 minutes. The whole video was super engaging and the video production was excellent. Great job!
Simply stellar automotive journalism!
You guys are operating/producing on a whole other level. Thank you for such a comprehensive review.
Absolutely the best Acura Type S review online, and I've watched them all! Thank you.
More videos like this, guys. This is where you are better than literally everyone else out there. Nice work!
I love the deep dives with manufacturer engineering personnel, behind the scenes stuff, etc. Well done.
Great Video as always. You guys make the most detailed Car Reviews on YT.
Much respect from Germany 👍
Haven’t watched the video yet, but y’all blow it out of the park consistently. 40 minutes for this one and I’m sure it’s better than any other video I’ve seen on the Type S. Keep up the hard work, y’all are THE best source for car enthusiasts doing research on cars, or when we’re just bored and want to see what’s new.
Excellent work as always, this content is very obviously a cut above most content you can find on youtube. I appreciate your particular POV and dedication to providing something much more engaging than the run of the mill. And the car of course, did not expect it to be anything more than a CTR with an acura badge...clearly I was very wrong lol.
Thank you for turning down the brightness on the info sheets!!! Appreciate everything you do and all the time and effort that is put into your videos!
Mark and Jack, Only two minutes into the video, Amazing editing, the camera shots, the music, as always this isn't just a youtube video, this is large TV network quality show, I will always support you on Patreon, been supporting for several years. Also, You guys really are doing a historic service. These in depth videos such as the LFA, GT-R, Corvette Z06, Mustang videos, Integra, the Miata series, and the upcoming NSX videos are really going to be look at down the road by future generations. Personally I wish there was a "youtube" back in the 80's and 90's to show in depth the cars I grew up with. You guys are killing it, and even your regular "normal everyday car reviews" I love it, your honest and you always put the car on the lift and really see how the car is put together. A+++++ guys, sorry I missed last weeks live stream, I was working. Take care, Rich
Your guys' production quality is incredible as always. What I absolutely love about your format is that you really get into the numbers and differences during your Garage talks. You can explain the feel differences, and I can drove both cars and feel the differences, but actually knowing the numbers is very nice to know. Such as the dampening differences. Thank you guys for your incredible effort!
Literally makes my day when I see a new video posted! Y’all are the best!
Hands down best review i've seen so far! Amazing car!
you guys have reached the Pinnacle of Car review formats! Awesome review!
Thank you for the great work you put into these videos! You guys are hands down one of my favorite RUclips creators.
Its funny, growing up, there was haters of the original Integra GSR and type-Rs and even the DC5 Type S. Point is, Acura always had haters and to this day, you'll find them lurking on this newer model type-S. People will complain, oh its FWD, oh not enough power, oh its overpriced, oh it doesnt have this, that blah blah. But it never separated the fact that Honda/Acura simply builds spectacular cars who generates a strong and true fanbase. Acura has always stayed focused on its project without being distracted by the critics. This car will be revered many years later and you would need to love Acura/Honda to own one.
The quality of your videos is exceptional. Thanks in particular for taking us into the detail of the engineering and production, and of course for the fantastic driving scenes. I love watching you guys push cars hard. Thanks!
Jonathan taking Honda/Acura fans to task about how short their memories are and how they are uniformed with regards to what a cars ACTUAL heritage is. This video was spectacular guys.
it seems like this applies to most enthusiasts, who refuse to see what the industry is today and where it's going, and insist cars need to be made like they were 20 years ago because of nostalgia.
Been watching your channel for years, Mark. This is one of the very best of them. Another thorough no BS review with tech and driving portions - you are the very best at what you do - keep up the good work! For my 2 cents I think they did a great job on this car and the price is just what it is these days... hopefully markups don't get too out of hand....
You guys are the best. Don't change your review format, because it's perfect.
Astounding interview, thank you for your hard work!
Extremely happy with getting the pre order ! Seeing you smile the whole time on track says alot about how strong this car is
When searching car review videos on RUclips I usually flip through the channels looking for other reviews of the same car ….this video delivered on so many levels I didn’t even think of searching for others on the ITS. Great job guys!
Your transitions are the best of any RUclips professionals. Clearly you put a lot of effort into visual/aesthetic quality 👍🏼
Many seemed to hate on the haters saying 2 doors just don't sell any more..
But it wasn't just the 2 door, fastback hatch that made that specific gen beloved. It also had a bespoke 1.8L engine, when the then top Civic SI only had 1.6L
Philosophy behind cars is so cool. Oems have interesting ways they integrate focus ideas to mass production cars. Like how to integrate racing to a car yet still comfortably let someone with kids do grocery runs regularly.
Wow, what a video! The drivetrain sound and pov shots in that intro got me hyped. Editing as a whole feels next level yet again on this one
Absolutely amazing video, and really excited to see Mark so excited!
Especially after the burn out you guys inevitably experience, it’s cool to see that (some) of that work pays off and you get reactions like you have now. Hope to get one of these in the future, and thank you both for your hard work!
Geez what a review!! That in-depth look into Acura's Marysville factory was amazing and the cherry on top!! Don't stop gentlemen!!
Great work and content. It has been a treat to see you guys progress from hidden shenanigans and humor to high end quality production documentaries capturing the history of memorable cars and the people who created them for all of us to enjoy!
Thanks to all!
Your videos literally make my speakers come alive!! No other channel mixes the audio will like your videos did!!
This video is a celebration. Bravo Mark and Jack 👏👏👏👏
This is a masterpiece of a video! You guys and Throttle House are the best reviewers out there. Keep up 💪
Seriously though. It’s wild to me that neither have been picked up by MotorTrend for their streaming. The content is way better.
Geese, congrats for putting out such high quality content and setting the bar high in the crowded RUclips car reviewers space.
I’m here for the quality and it didn’t disappoint, good job guys!
It’s astounding to me that you guys don’t have millions of followers. Absolutely spectacular content. Thank you for your hard work.
I really appreciate the objective road noise comparison. The same car will get called 'loud' by one person and 'quiet' by another.
My first Gen Integra still pulls at my heart, glad they kept the blue, nice. But though that price tag is disheartening, that one, much like mine seems to do everything right.
Man you have came along way but still keeping it real with who you are and us. good job
Really proud of the growth you guys have done I'm your media content..you can tell your passionate about these projects like these vs just a pump and dump style of the same formula everyone else does with the interior and exterior and quick 3 minute drive
They weren't common because they limited their production even back in the 90's and early 00's. So people couldn't get their hands on them easily even back then. So don't tell us "the market" didn't want these cars, or that a 2-door version of an Integra wouldn't sell out in the current market. I could barely get my hands on a 2020 Honda Si Coupe when I was shopping around for it. The dealers in my area (eastern PA) had none, and had to order one for me.
This guy is “corporate”. He ain’t telling the full truth.
its a crime you guys arent over 1 000 000 subs!
much love from montreal !
Production quality of this video is outstanding…so much work..appreciate it. Thank you!
Absolutely love your indepth videos. Please keep them coming.
The HDR is great. You guys have some of the highest quality content on this platform.
We don’t deserve content this good.
Calm down
Why not? I’m sick of people saying shit like that
@@kychristell1779 I apologize for giving positive feedback.
@nicholasfrisch244 it's a pathetic mindset.
@@kychristell1779 okay. @savagegeese make more content for us bitch
I love seeing these guys rip around lake County back roads I drive everyday!
This is hands down one of your best productions! Excellent job, guys! 😎
Amazingly remarkable production, you guys! This is youtube at it's very best! Thank you for putting this together and I can really tell and feel your passion for cars and for making fantastic content. I would LOVE to own a Type S and maybe will in the future. I got priced out this time around and leased a 24 aspec tech 6mt in the beautiful Apex Blue/Ebony. Thank you again for this incredible video. Keep it up!
You guys really outdid yourselves. I've watched damn near all of your videos and countless other car reviews and this is, by a large margin, the best one I've ever seen for a car I absolutely *must* have. This has better production value than hollywood movies FFS. Truly incredible job here fellas. Hopefully I'll see you at Autobahn one day soon in my Type S (once I can put a deposit on one somewhere!)
As always, great review ❤
Wow that intro. Production quality on point
The savagegeese team has really raised the quality of their video reviews and productions. Outstanding review, Mark and Jack! Keep up the excellent work!
Acura TLX Type S owner here.. Acura quality and reliability is not where it seems to be. I owned the Aspec 2021 tlx and had a bunch of electrical issues (carplay, puddle lights, steering rack, speakers ect) Now i have the Type S and have TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS. They already replaced one and the new one is acting up. Just letting everyone know.
Mark and team, this was a great video! Informative, behind the scenes, but still felt like an honest review of the product like all of your past reviews! Keep it up!
Love the passion and dedication in your videos.. In HDR no less!
I understand you are trying to be respectful to the Acura Rep but if you just end up agreeing with all his points and not ask actual hard questions, how are you any different from any other youtube channel who does the same thing and comply and agree with the reps? I think there can be a middle ground of being respectful but also being able to ask hard questions because all the things the Acura Rep said were just basically avoiding all of the consumers real questions. Mainly, the price doesn't make sense. The demographic target of buyers of what the Integra was for before and now is completely different and just disappointing. Overall, you bring out great content but just a bit disappointed in keeping reps honest.
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing. They probably were not allowed to bring up certain things. To NOT touch on the price of this thing is crazy. It's most likely the #1 talked about thing right now.
@@vdlion717 Yeah I agree. The price of the ITS is in range of someone who needs to make 6 figures at the minimum for it to be a financially responsible buy. They completely missed the mark for what this car is and who it's for and to praise Acura for this seems wrong imo. In his conclusion, he mentions if you want the old cars, you go buy them. I understand the cars won't be as small or light as before because of safety etc, but where you can't change the size or weight, you can at least make it accessible for the younger enthusiast who have a lighter wallet but at 52k it's not. The GR86 is a great example of a car done right with the price done right. The ITS should not be remotely close to the demographic of BMW M240/M2 owners. It never was and it never should be.
In Summary, if this ITS doesn't embody anything of the old ITS, then don't call it an Integra. Give it a completely different model name. But using "Integra" to get back enthusiast when it doesn't embody anything of the old is just a scam. I guess making something FWD and an Integra name plate is all it takes to be an Integra. Not a single REAL criticism remark from SG. Just some light remarks here and there that doesn't highlight the real issues so the reps keep coming back for more content. But that's how all youtuber reviews are coming too, not just SG. Only a few real ones left, Jason Cammisa, Chris Harris etc.
I like it. And if nothing else, that blue color is beautiful
Love my DE5. As more people find out what it is the attention and love is unreal. Thanks for building a people’s car 🙏🏽
Masterpiece of a video. Enjoyed it from beginning to end. Thanks!
FREAKING LOVE THIS VIDEO STYLE! These interviews are so darn cool! Love the passion, the history, the thought, strategy, and understanding.
Thus or the Lexus IS 500
@@robertwieters8204 That’s honestly tough. I’d pick the IS500 for where I am in my life.
At one point in my life, I was a big manual enthusiast, but because I need something easy to drive the IS500 is so cool for daily commuting plus I’ve always wanted a V8 car!
Basically what I got is that I'm glad I got my Type-R. Cause now I know that one resonator delete, plus a mild tune and I'm good to go.
Watching this in 4k HDR is amazing btw, thanks for shooting in it! The blue color gradient really comes through.
Such a thorough review 👌🏾