I have a question about climbing. What is your opinion of how this frame climbs? I am looking for a really good climbing bike/frame, would you say the AR ONE is an exceptional climber? Or just an average climber? Also, as to the black Friday discount, can I just but a frame and get the discount, or is the frame discount only if I buy the whole package (that I don't need)? Thanks Joe!
I love seeing passionate people building their dreams. I love that this is a dedicated race bike not meant for the general riding population. If you see someone riding this bike on a group ride your rest assured to be hurting to keep the wheel
All great paint jobs. Just tempting. I’d love to see a fully specced one - Like a Panda’s choice of the best componetary from your range of preferred brands. Off to visit your Website now. Thanks
That retro 90s Clipart paint is amazing, love the creativity. Any word on when any Chinese brands will come out with a large size bike? The AR:one has a great looking proportion, but sadly the size range stops short by one or 2 sizes. It would be amazing to have a long and low bike like these in adult sizes!
Haha, i hear you. Our team (who ride this bike) have one guy Gleb who is 187cm and one guy Oskar who is 188cm. They both ride the XL. Oskar rides it slammed, Gleb has a spacer or two. But, they are obviously very flexible professionals!
@ChinaCycling because of the short head tube, that XL actually has less effective reach than comparable frames. The shrinkflation is real, the XL is the same geometry as a size L canyon aeroad for example
@ChinaCycling for what its worth, I'm also 188cm tall, and I currently ride a TT bike conversion, one of the open mold TT912 frames as a road bike with a 115mm stem. I got the bike for the 437mm reach, on a pretty normal 175mm headtube. I dont really feel like going back to the short bike/long stem, with the issues of toe overlap and goofy steering.
I know it may not be a common demand but would love to see more of these frames in one size larger. At 198cm most of the frames are just a little small with XL being the biggest size available
@@SuperGangles I currently have a converted TT frame as my road bike, the rather generic open mold TT912 frame that you can get from a number of manufacturers. It has a 437mm reach, I'm still looking for a UCI legal frame with a similar geometry. I don't want to go back to using 140-150mm stems 😆
@galenkehler seems Canyon is one of the brands to make the largest sizes with their 2XL’s unfortunately they don’t really sell frames. Would love to see them offer it in the future but won’t be holding my breath for it
@@SuperGangles yeah I looked at a 2XL Canyon Aeroad, with a -25⁰ 120mm stem that would correct for the huge stack. But I'm no keen on buying a bike with a goofy proprietary steerer tube, that I can't swap forks on. I have a nice custom low rake fork, but canyons are not a normal tapered design
Love the frame. You keep saying it's got a very short stack, but the 490 (equivalent to a 54) is within 2mm of my '22 Allez Sprint. That bike fits me perfectly, seriously considering this one for a build next year.
Yeah, I mean, the Allez Sprint is a notoriously aggressive frame, so, if you're close to that, you're aggressive. (Also own 2 Allez Sprints... great bike.)
That was a stella review for a frame that is all about racing and all about winning. Love your enthusiasm for it. Curious with you saying Quick Pro can do what they want if in the future they'll make a honking Aero bike with thicc tubes that weights next to nothing comparatively. Cause i am here for that and would love to get my hands on one.
Not gonna argue, my old man told me never start a fight you can't win. Remco, Tadej and Vingegaard all running slammed stems. But, yes, it is anecdotal. I will say that if every frame had the same 'middle of the road' stack, then users on the ends of the bell curve would have less choice. We should applaud brands for stepping away from the norm and offering more choice for those on the edges of the bell curve.
@@ChinaCycling tbf, pog could use a bit more stack if looking exclusively at the road bike aero position. He hasn't got great mobility, but he's so strong it doesn't matter.
thanks for the video and solid explanation with all the personal caveats...like the more funky paintjob and waiting to see how others review it. Currently at 185cm i'm on a 58 Aethos with 120 stem, so will be checking out the geometry. EDIT - just looked at the comparison on Geometry Geeks website (good to see AR:one there already) and really just that 20mm lower stack height and 7mm shorter effective top tube...so might be ok, though I already often feel a larger size would work better.
This bike looks great. I like a lot of the design and build choices. I also love the wild colour. I still have your mullet g2 frame colour. Might have to buy another one of your fun paint jobs 😉
@@ChinaCycling all jokes aside, I just lost my bike while visiting LA in the fire. I may actually be buying this frame. How does this frame compare to a Tarmac SL6 for ride - is it actually crazy stiff?
Thanks for the video and talking about how the bike handles. I want a bike to replace my tarmac SL6 (that handles so damn well), I think this bike might be it.
Gran video y creo que un gran cuadro tal como se ve, y sobre todo muy claro con respecto al peso, gracias por la claridad, mas de una marca debería de tomar nota.
Love the paint job. I'd go for a Seka spear personally for aesthetics and general styling, but good to see another option out there at a unique price point.
Nice bike... a question and a comment: 1. You mentioned Canondale: does the rear wheel need a re-dishing? Or it's just standard centered dishing there? 2. You should compare the price with Merida or Giant. These are affordable, reputable, Western brands. Nice paint, the Arlequin, btw... P.S. a further question: will we see a CX or Gravel version of it? Something like Specialized Crux?
Looks pretty compelling for the price! Any chance we could see the aero testing data, or could you do some tests yourself? Deciding between this and the Seka Spear right now, and while this is cheaper I do like that the Spear has some information showing how it performs aerodynamically.
I have the ability to test, but I fear it will A) be a time vacuum and B) open a can of worms. (in my experience, usually ends with more questions than answers.) but... lets see! :)
@ChinaCycling - Thanks for taking the time to reply - do you know if there's any testing been done? (Noting the likes of Seka and Intropy have been to Silverstone with theirs)
Hi, I test road the latest Orbea Orca Aero. Man it’s fast *and* comfortable. But the frame alone weighs 1300g. On the other side, in your words this Quickpro AR:One rides fast and uncomfortably stiff. It weighs is 780g - 800g in Sz.Medium I think this is interesting because it makes me wonder how brands decide on what sort of bike they produce? Is it solely based on their pro riders’ feedback? Or is there more to it?
There's a "Quick" gravel frame called the Hare. But "Quick Pro" don't have one yet. (Quick pro is the upper-end, more racey stuff.) I think the HARE is getting an update soon... I will enquire.
If I had not just purchased a Cervelo I would be purchasing one ! What we need is Quick Pro to now develop this in Gravel spec. Racing geo. 45' tyre capability. Little bit taller in the head tube. Little bit longer wheel base. You do that and you get a massive influx of buyers !
I'm going to Disneyland with my spare cash in a few months. And next year I'm sure something else will take priority over me getting a new bike. I just don't see me having around $4k or $5k for a new bicycle. I will probably settle on a new indoor trainer setup and do some e-Racing, it's a lot cheaper than buying a bicycle and the family could enjoy the trainer as well.
We definitely need a cheaper Chinese counterpart for a Pinarello Dogma X. Endurance bikes are what most people who aren’t racers need and that’s actually the bigger pie in the road bike market share.
My front wheel is 25mm internal, GP5000 28mm on there right now with quite a lot of room around it. One of our riders Gleb put 35mm knobbly terraspeed gravel tires on his...haha. They fit (just hope it doesnt get muddy.)
China must learn that not every customer is 5 foot 7..the xtra large has a 160 head tube? For the chinese market thats fine..to sell in the west, we need LARGE bikes to fit tall men
"Quick Pro" screams AliExpress Kmart Walmart bike. Who comes up with these silly names? Build a quality bike and then slap on a cheap embarrassing name.
@@tonylo6013 Its name on the downtube. Quick Pro. It looks lame and the font is lame. The bike itself is cool but it's ruined by the name and font. It's like seeing Hyundai on a Ferrari. Not saying this bike is a Ferrari but you get what I mean. Quick Pro sounds like something you would find on Temu Aliexpress.
Probably Large or even eXtra Large. Compare the reach and stack figures to your current road bike (bearing in mind you can use spacers.) Its a bit more complex than that, so if you need more help - email us on the site.
Haha, hold your horses. ;) We like to be thorough with the testing. Let the team get plenty of miles on it and let the factory iron out all the bugs before we start retailing. The AR:One first started racing in like... Feb-March 2024 and it took until today to get it ready for retail.
Thanks for your job. Great frame, great review. Unfortunately, it is worth noting that all manufacturers strive to sell only aero bikes, although let's be honest, most of us only care about the appearance of aero. I more and more often come across posts from people who are looking for a short and tall frame, with a short reach and a high stack. It's a pity that very few Chinese brands make frames with such parameters. My body proportions do not allow me to ride aero bikes.
Joe, please use your connections to get Chinese manufacturers to make bikes for larger riders. At 6'04" (193cm), these bikes just won't work for me without ridiculous amounts of seatpost showing or using ALL the spacers under the stem. I get that these are serious race bikes, but they are still too small for big guys like me.
Doesn't look very aero compared to something like a Merida Reacto... No surprise it is lite. Mostly round shapes. Also, you keep preaching about it being a race bike, but it's reach is not long enough. Stack is a bit too low - will probably need spacers.
@invisiblescout6335 the top headtube to stem intersection is straight from Tarmac, as is the headtube to front rear triangle depth proportions, the rear seat tube cutout and dropped seat stay. Most all around bikes look similar, but few have the SL8 tube proportions
When he sends me $1999 via PayPal. :) Haha, but... he's a busy man, I'm not gonna ram this down everyone's throat. If he's interested we can arrange something, but I don't think he'll like the stack in his size...
Beautiful, but the XL stack is too low for any human who would ride an XL. 566 for an XL is way off and a weird, but common, Chinese bike design quirk.
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I like how you embody the spirit of Chinese culture by ripping off Donut Media's "| Up to Speed". Good job man, keep it up.
I have a question about climbing. What is your opinion of how this frame climbs? I am looking for a really good climbing bike/frame, would you say the AR ONE is an exceptional climber? Or just an average climber?
Also, as to the black Friday discount, can I just but a frame and get the discount, or is the frame discount only if I buy the whole package (that I don't need)?
Thanks Joe!
Liking this title better. Keep it classy bruv. 🤟🏿
@@DDai-qd8uk It was more of an "Homage" than ripping off.But basically nobody got the reference so I changed it... C'est la vie. :)
@@ChinaCycling sure, kinda like how that sohtea you're selling is an 'homeage'. 🤦♀
7:55 I like your attitude, openness and honesty here. Good to see.
I'm in the unique position of having lots of these frames to just throw on the scales where most youtubers have a sample size of 1.
I love this paint job, it is awesome, great job!
I love seeing passionate people building their dreams. I love that this is a dedicated race bike not meant for the general riding population. If you see someone riding this bike on a group ride your rest assured to be hurting to keep the wheel
Holy 1980s Batman! That paint job is certainly a bold choice!😳
Excited to see your version of the AR:One!
Badass video 📹 Joe! Congratulations to you 👏 for your team and the success of this frame 👏.
Definitely my next bike love it
Love the harlequin paint job.
Bike is SICK
Just shut up and take my money !!! What a beauty harlequin 😻
That’s a badass paint job.
All great paint jobs. Just tempting. I’d love to see a fully specced one - Like a Panda’s choice of the best componetary from your range of preferred brands. Off to visit your Website now. Thanks
On my channel, video with all panda parts except the Shimano groupset 7.00kg in size L
The video I'm dropping in a few days is just that. :)
That retro 90s Clipart paint is amazing, love the creativity.
Any word on when any Chinese brands will come out with a large size bike? The AR:one has a great looking proportion, but sadly the size range stops short by one or 2 sizes. It would be amazing to have a long and low bike like these in adult sizes!
Haha, i hear you. Our team (who ride this bike) have one guy Gleb who is 187cm and one guy Oskar who is 188cm. They both ride the XL. Oskar rides it slammed, Gleb has a spacer or two. But, they are obviously very flexible professionals!
@ChinaCycling because of the short head tube, that XL actually has less effective reach than comparable frames. The shrinkflation is real, the XL is the same geometry as a size L canyon aeroad for example
@ChinaCycling for what its worth, I'm also 188cm tall, and I currently ride a TT bike conversion, one of the open mold TT912 frames as a road bike with a 115mm stem. I got the bike for the 437mm reach, on a pretty normal 175mm headtube.
I dont really feel like going back to the short bike/long stem, with the issues of toe overlap and goofy steering.
I know it may not be a common demand but would love to see more of these frames in one size larger. At 198cm most of the frames are just a little small with XL being the biggest size available
Haha I'm in the same boat, I need an XXXL in this size scheme 😂
Might have to make my own line of bikes for us big boys.
@ Yeah I definitely feel you on that one. Even many of the mainstream brands don’t always offer the sizes either.
@@SuperGangles I currently have a converted TT frame as my road bike, the rather generic open mold TT912 frame that you can get from a number of manufacturers. It has a 437mm reach, I'm still looking for a UCI legal frame with a similar geometry. I don't want to go back to using 140-150mm stems 😆
@galenkehler seems Canyon is one of the brands to make the largest sizes with their 2XL’s unfortunately they don’t really sell frames. Would love to see them offer it in the future but won’t be holding my breath for it
@@SuperGangles yeah I looked at a 2XL Canyon Aeroad, with a -25⁰ 120mm stem that would correct for the huge stack. But I'm no keen on buying a bike with a goofy proprietary steerer tube, that I can't swap forks on. I have a nice custom low rake fork, but canyons are not a normal tapered design
Great video on the story of how this bike came I to existence. Thanks for sharing
a really great paint job on Tommy's bike, to highlight the carbon fibre weave with that blue is very nice👍
Love the frame. You keep saying it's got a very short stack, but the 490 (equivalent to a 54) is within 2mm of my '22 Allez Sprint. That bike fits me perfectly, seriously considering this one for a build next year.
Yeah, I mean, the Allez Sprint is a notoriously aggressive frame, so, if you're close to that, you're aggressive. (Also own 2 Allez Sprints... great bike.)
Love the paint job
That was a stella review for a frame that is all about racing and all about winning. Love your enthusiasm for it.
Curious with you saying Quick Pro can do what they want if in the future they'll make a honking Aero bike with thicc tubes that weights next to nothing comparatively. Cause i am here for that and would love to get my hands on one.
Could you please forward a frameset to Hambini or Peak torque for review
Hambini yes 👍
Both Hambini and Peak torque 👍
Def Hambini
Cool! Congrats, man. It's great to see more bike frames competing against other big brands! These are beautiful frames.
Love the video and the frame
Thanks! Its a looker and i think on omy shortlist of frames to get.
Love it, looking forward to you bringing some chinese chunky aero bikes to Panda Podium!
I do like me some thiccccc tube aero bikes.
damn, this frame is hype. that harlequin looks sick.
Siiiiiick.
you had me at threaded BB !!😁
And with big chunky notches for the tool on the BB, not like T47 with tiny little notches for the tool.
Dont argue with me, argue with the aerodynamic data 🎉 anecdotally most wt pros are now using more and more spacers under the stem…
Aero position over stem spacers?
You can usually add more spacers, those of us who can hold these aggro positions can only slam down the stem so far
Not gonna argue, my old man told me never start a fight you can't win. Remco, Tadej and Vingegaard all running slammed stems. But, yes, it is anecdotal. I will say that if every frame had the same 'middle of the road' stack, then users on the ends of the bell curve would have less choice. We should applaud brands for stepping away from the norm and offering more choice for those on the edges of the bell curve.
@@ChinaCycling tbf, pog could use a bit more stack if looking exclusively at the road bike aero position. He hasn't got great mobility, but he's so strong it doesn't matter.
They run a slammed stem on a bike where a 56 is a 56 😅
thanks for the video and solid explanation with all the personal caveats...like the more funky paintjob and waiting to see how others review it. Currently at 185cm i'm on a 58 Aethos with 120 stem, so will be checking out the geometry. EDIT - just looked at the comparison on Geometry Geeks website (good to see AR:one there already) and really just that 20mm lower stack height and 7mm shorter effective top tube...so might be ok, though I already often feel a larger size would work better.
I like the Matt black version. And will give it a miss. Cheers for the video
This bike looks great. I like a lot of the design and build choices. I also love the wild colour. I still have your mullet g2 frame colour. Might have to buy another one of your fun paint jobs 😉
I need to dust off my G2 mullet and get it back on the road too. :)
@@ChinaCycling all jokes aside, I just lost my bike while visiting LA in the fire. I may actually be buying this frame. How does this frame compare to a Tarmac SL6 for ride - is it actually crazy stiff?
Thanks for the video and talking about how the bike handles. I want a bike to replace my tarmac SL6 (that handles so damn well), I think this bike might be it.
Looks sick ❤😁✌️🚵🏽♀️
Can you show a close up please of the rear derailleur hangar design???😊
Gran video y creo que un gran cuadro tal como se ve, y sobre todo muy claro con respecto al peso, gracias por la claridad, mas de una marca debería de tomar nota.
The pricing on these frames is making it less and less competitive. Too close to traditional brands.
nice looking bike.
i wouldn't be surprised if there were a bike brand called "fastspin" in the future.
Nice, can you run it with a mechanical groupset?
Curious about the Wind Tunnel test
Love the paint job. I'd go for a Seka spear personally for aesthetics and general styling, but good to see another option out there at a unique price point.
Joe, please could you show a little bit more on the seatposts clamping system..?
Sure. It's a 2 bolt system so impossible for the angle to 'slip' if you hit a speedbump or whatever.
Nice bike... a question and a comment:
1. You mentioned Canondale: does the rear wheel need a re-dishing? Or it's just standard centered dishing there?
2. You should compare the price with Merida or Giant. These are affordable, reputable, Western brands.
Nice paint, the Arlequin, btw...
P.S. a further question: will we see a CX or Gravel version of it? Something like Specialized Crux?
This frame seems like an RWB frame, for criteriums racing and all of that stuff. Pure stifness, only for racing.
Looks like a super nice. 👍
Price needs to be -$800 cheaper for me to get interested. I’m done with the inflation bs.
Lots of cheaper frames out there if you don't mind it being 200g heavier. The BIgrock frames are good value.
@ Love the content and Pandapodium. Keep up the great work! 👍
@@ChinaCycling Any reviews on the bigrock aero frame? I'm curious if it is crazy stiff and how it handles
You weighed half the frame set, the fork weight is also important. Some of these come in 100g heavier than the competition
You're not wrong, but forks are also one area where you defo don't wanna be cutting too much weight.
what is the weight from the fork?
Looks pretty compelling for the price! Any chance we could see the aero testing data, or could you do some tests yourself? Deciding between this and the Seka Spear right now, and while this is cheaper I do like that the Spear has some information showing how it performs aerodynamically.
I have the ability to test, but I fear it will A) be a time vacuum and B) open a can of worms. (in my experience, usually ends with more questions than answers.) but... lets see! :)
what is the customs fee to the USA?
Is this frame manufactured for QuickPro by Huizhou Flybike Sports Equipment?
Where do I buy?
I like it
Any news on the ER:One?
I went to the Chinese launch event at the weekend. Should be coming overseas after Chinese New Year...
@ChinaCycling - Thanks for taking the time to reply - do you know if there's any testing been done? (Noting the likes of Seka and Intropy have been to Silverstone with theirs)
Can I buy paint job without the frame?
Hey Chinacycling/Joe when is the ER-ONE due for release?
I guess early March :)
Hi, I test road the latest Orbea Orca Aero. Man it’s fast *and* comfortable. But the frame alone weighs 1300g.
On the other side, in your words this Quickpro AR:One rides fast and uncomfortably stiff. It weighs is 780g - 800g in Sz.Medium
I think this is interesting because it makes me wonder how brands decide on what sort of bike they produce? Is it solely based on their pro riders’ feedback? Or is there more to it?
I would definitely go for the Orbea Orca Aero as i'm an endurance racer.
Love what we're seeing! Any hints whether Quick is considering making it into the gravel race market?
There's a "Quick" gravel frame called the Hare. But "Quick Pro" don't have one yet. (Quick pro is the upper-end, more racey stuff.) I think the HARE is getting an update soon... I will enquire.
@@ChinaCycling Thanks, appreciate it!
Hello Why do you never put the bike manufacturer's website
If I had not just purchased a Cervelo I would be purchasing one !
What we need is Quick Pro to now develop this in Gravel spec. Racing geo. 45' tyre capability. Little bit taller in the head tube. Little bit longer wheel base.
You do that and you get a massive influx of buyers !
UDH compatible? Sorry if I missed it. Thanks!
I'm going to Disneyland with my spare cash in a few months. And next year I'm sure something else will take priority over me getting a new bike. I just don't see me having around $4k or $5k for a new bicycle. I will probably settle on a new indoor trainer setup and do some e-Racing, it's a lot cheaper than buying a bicycle and the family could enjoy the trainer as well.
Thats good for you and good for your family. Any bike thats safe to ride and has 2 wheels is fine (as long as you're not racing i guess.)
Can you recommend any endurance frames made in China? Just bought some far sports evo s wheels, need a good light endurance frame. Thanks
I agree. The only thing they’ve been pumping out are race bikes, race bikes and race bikes.
I'm an endurance racer so speed _and_ comfort are my priorities.
@@blaze1148100%, still like to race in top batches
We definitely need a cheaper Chinese counterpart for a Pinarello Dogma X.
Endurance bikes are what most people who aren’t racers need and that’s actually the bigger pie in the road bike market share.
Quick Zeit Pro
Can it come with raw so I can paint it myself and be cheaper?
Seatpost with zero setback available?
Should be, I have one on my AR:ONE
Yup. Listed on the site.
Congratulations on the bike! One confusion: bike industry decided that 'AR' means 'All Road'; why is this race bike named 'AR'?
AR here = All-Rounder :)
So tempted by the retro finish. Whats tyre clearance on 24m internal rims? Can i get a 32mm or even 34 in?
My front wheel is 25mm internal, GP5000 28mm on there right now with quite a lot of room around it. One of our riders Gleb put 35mm knobbly terraspeed gravel tires on his...haha. They fit (just hope it doesnt get muddy.)
What tire pressures do you ride at?
28s @ 65psi.
@ChinaCycling What would you recommend for a 230lb rider?
The new avian canary bar uses t1100 as well. Is it any stiffer than the old version?
Hard to say, you can use high-mod and then use less of it to get a similar result.
The frame is stiff till which system weight maximum ?
120kg. Strength and Stiffness are not the same thing. :)
fork and seat post weights please
It’s got Dyneema spokes!!!!
China must learn that not every customer is 5 foot 7..the xtra large has a 160 head tube? For the chinese market thats fine..to sell in the west, we need LARGE bikes to fit tall men
Can it be Ordered in Raw Carbon?
Will sound better with quick bro on the frame 😅
a contruçãp do quadro é algo primoroso, mas no site ficou devendo um guidom do tamanho 420mm/ 100mm
"Quick Pro" screams AliExpress Kmart Walmart bike. Who comes up with these silly names? Build a quality bike and then slap on a cheap embarrassing name.
Sounds alright. What’s so silly about it?
@@tonylo6013 Its name on the downtube. Quick Pro. It looks lame and the font is lame. The bike itself is cool but it's ruined by the name and font.
It's like seeing Hyundai on a Ferrari.
Not saying this bike is a Ferrari but you get what I mean.
Quick Pro sounds like something you would find on Temu Aliexpress.
I would rather see the name of the company that is making the frame even if it was written in the language and it was something I could not pronounce.
There's a reason mine just has it in tiny tiny letters on the chainstay. :)
Nearly as bad as “winspace”. They ruin their product and image with these embarrassing names. It just makes it seem like bargain bucket crap
❤ 12:17
Se puede importar a México?
why not get giant tcr advanced frame instead
Beautiful, a shame that none of these manufacturers make adult sized frames 😂
I‘m 183cm tall, which size do you recommend? Large or Medium?
Probably Large or even eXtra Large. Compare the reach and stack figures to your current road bike (bearing in mind you can use spacers.) Its a bit more complex than that, so if you need more help - email us on the site.
@@ChinaCycling I’m 168 cm and 73,66 cm 29 inches inseem do i go XS or S? I can’t find sizing chart in the website.
Any eta on the ER:One? I'm a sucker for the aero aesthetic and that one looks so fucking good
Haha, hold your horses. ;) We like to be thorough with the testing. Let the team get plenty of miles on it and let the factory iron out all the bugs before we start retailing. The AR:One first started racing in like... Feb-March 2024 and it took until today to get it ready for retail.
so the ER:One was first seen online in august, so may-ish? 😜
@@ChinaCycling lighter than the Foil? Also BSA BB?
@@invisiblescout6335 I have already booked. release date on dec 15, and i think the price is about 2000usd.
@@ChinaCyclingwell well well, I just had a stroll through Douyin and It looks to me like the chinese release is happening right now.
I'd like to test ride it before buying. $2k for the frame just too much
Yup. That would be ideal.
Thanks for your job. Great frame, great review. Unfortunately, it is worth noting that all manufacturers strive to sell only aero bikes, although let's be honest, most of us only care about the appearance of aero. I more and more often come across posts from people who are looking for a short and tall frame, with a short reach and a high stack. It's a pity that very few Chinese brands make frames with such parameters. My body proportions do not allow me to ride aero bikes.
I can Not find in Aliexpress
Check Panda Podium...
That is a Tekkerz paintjob, aint it? Still cute tho.
I just went to check that out - they do look similar! Unfortunately at this point, everything has been done before.
Joe, please use your connections to get Chinese manufacturers to make bikes for larger riders. At 6'04" (193cm), these bikes just won't work for me without ridiculous amounts of seatpost showing or using ALL the spacers under the stem. I get that these are serious race bikes, but they are still too small for big guys like me.
I hear you. Will try 'influence' some decisions. :)
I wish it was t-47 for my dubby dubs
BSA DUB is fine, the bearings are outside the frame :)
They look great and the price is good but that stack is too low for us mere mortals. Show me a western bike in Size M with a lower stack
I 100% hear you, unfortunately they didn't design this one for mortals. This is designed for the extremes of the bell curve.
I am 170cm 65kg what size frame would you recommend?
Probably either an S with a long stem or an M with a shorter stem, depending on how slammed you have your front end.
How come a UCI Team's main sprinter is using Ultegra Di2 while Joe is running Dura Ace Di2? 😮
Hahhaa... their bikes are already 6.8kg, why use Dura Ace? ;) Me on the other hand, I can go under 6.8kg. ;)
@ 6.8 Kgs with Ultegra Di2? OMG!!
look a bit like pardus spark evo
No size 58😕
Doesn't look very aero compared to something like a Merida Reacto... No surprise it is lite. Mostly round shapes. Also, you keep preaching about it being a race bike, but it's reach is not long enough. Stack is a bit too low - will probably need spacers.
Yeah, most brands seem to abandoning aero bikes saying all round bikes are just as fast. (Ie: The Venge to the Tarmac.)
Why aren’t the nine big enough for 6’6” people 62 cm
It looks like a SL8
more like a copy of super six
@nuttynut722 seat tube of the Supersix is totally different. This is closer to the SL8, just look at them side by side
Meh if you disregard so much attention to detail to say this looks like an sl8, then all light, semi-aero all-round bikes look the same
@invisiblescout6335 the top headtube to stem intersection is straight from Tarmac, as is the headtube to front rear triangle depth proportions, the rear seat tube cutout and dropped seat stay. Most all around bikes look similar, but few have the SL8 tube proportions
@@Shadowboost top tube is straight, different tube junctions everywhere, downtube cross-section, fork design, much longer seattubes
When does PT get one 😂
When he sends me $1999 via PayPal. :) Haha, but... he's a busy man, I'm not gonna ram this down everyone's throat. If he's interested we can arrange something, but I don't think he'll like the stack in his size...
if is 10 yrs ago i would say cool, but now why that headtube still that short.
Thanks for watching!
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Beautiful, but the XL stack is too low for any human who would ride an XL. 566 for an XL is way off and a weird, but common, Chinese bike design quirk.
I literally show you in the video a 188cm human riding an XL with a slammed stem. Although, I guess pros are maybe superhuman. :D
@ if only. I’m 190cm and would need 50mm of spacers.
Realistically if you were getting a frame painted is America by a top bike painter you might pay two grand for the paint.
Chinese brand is pretty good but they need to work on naming their brand, something catchy , anything but quick pro, sound so generic😅