Is Sonic Superstars THAT BAD? - An in Depth Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Sonic Superstars is a game that disappointed in many many ways. But... do I agree? Does this game deserve the hate? Have I watched the show Mad Men? All answers and more to be seen in this video!
Special Thanks to:
Haren, the IT guy: / harenbaren
and my incredible parents for their continued support.
All game footage was recorded in November-December 2023 on the Nintendo Switch
Except like half of it got corrupted :|
Sonic 4 Episode 2 Level 1 footage taken from:
/ @fcplaythroughs
Mega Man X3 footage taken from:
/ @tokyo90
Mega Man 7 footage taken from:
/ @ryanreviewsretro
Super Metroid and Mega Man 11 footage taken from:
/ @somecallmejohnny
Games mentioned:
Sonic The Hedgehog 1/2/3/& Knuckles
Sonic 4 Episode 1/2
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic Generations
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Mega Man 7/X3/11
Sonic Frontiers
Sonic Advance 1/2
#sonic #sonicthehedgehog
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bro it's not even if Superstars is that bad because they nailed it in Mania. just let the Mania guys do another game and it's a win. but sega...
sega.
oxe fi não deu certo, eles tentaram mas desistiram só desistir de trabalharem juntos
ahh yes Sega should have enslaved the mania team
@@sanik9002 que
@@JeffTheBagel we're not talking about slavery yet
@@tubaraofluente decidiram desistir* seja qual foi o motivo, foi isso que ambos os lados falaram
We could have had a hand-drawn style but an interview, when asked about it, they said that they were considering it at first, but opted for 3D because they thought people would think that would look better, I remember hearing this somewhere to take this with a grain of salt because I don't remember the source.
Ive heard that too but can’t remember the source
You know what I called that? EXCUSES!!! I've seen a 2D Sonic Hand Drawn game, and that was made by ONE PERSON WHO HAD LESS MONEY THAN SEGA.
@@Sonic-VA- *2D hand drawn Sonic (Framework)
@@ethanwayne6973 really?
@@Sonic-VA- have you seen any full hand drawn Sonic games?
When I first saw the emerald powers in the trailers, my immediate first thought was “wow, that’s a neat gimmick that I’m never going to want to use”
It was such an idiotic idea for sega to release this game in the very same week as mario wonder. Like that’s the greatest competition a 2d platformer will ever face, it’s gonna be comepletely overshadowed. Should’ve delayed the release by a few weeks or a month
Agreed
Mario wonder was announced to come out after Sonic superstars was, but still a delay would have been good
It's weird to know that sonic colors wii done this style of multiplayer better.
Time attack actually made me go back and replay this game pretty often, I can pick a random stage, skip the boss, turn on Spotify (cause superstars music is pretty mid), and just have fun running through the stage with all the classic physics I love. But a mode so simple isn't going to justify the $60 price tag
Agreed
They definitely could've implemented the emerald powers better, both in terms of frequency of use and the button sequence used to activate them.
Agreed
All you have to do to activate an emerald power is flick the right stick in the corresponding direction and press X. Very quick and snappy once you remember where they are
New Super Mario Bros. Wii deliberately has levels that are made with that camera system in mind, while Sonic typically has levels that require you to go up and down, not just left and right. Whenever you had to go up and down in NSMBW, it would usually be in a dedicated section where the level would be designed in such a way, therefore letting them lock the camera like that. Maybe its limiting to some degree, but I think its an important consideration they never made when thinking about this new camera system. Good video bud.
Agreed
9:43 well u can't slip thru cracks but it DOES shield you from crushing hazards. So that's something at least
Well said. specially that camera shit.
The fact that "brand new levels" was a selling point is kinda sad. But hey that's what happens when reusing levels for so long
6:42 we almost did see it before. The gems in 06 were supposed to be tied to the emeralds
60$(base game) for one game. And sonic x shadow generations is 50$ (base game) 2 games, both very high quality and fun.
Can’t believe bro died in a car accident in Australia 😢😢💀💀
What??? the guy who runs this channel???
@@IttyBitty412 I can't find any confirmation on that... I have no Idea if there's any truth to this..
Are we not going to talk about the OST?
Why is there so many different energies for every act in this game?
We got Bridge Hill Act 2 and Speed Jungle Act 1 which have that Mania energy (they're by Tee Lopes, duh)
Meanwhile, Golden Gate Act 1 sounds stright out of the genesis.
Looking at the credits, there were MANY people working on the OST, which to me is one of the reasons why it sounds so unfocused overall.
I've seen people try to defend these themes, but I don't get how. Especially after Origins, when some of the replaced tracks sound more off than a literal PROTOTYPE that was revealed to the public a year early. (Looking at you Carnival Night).
Mania (which is cheaper than Mania on launch), and even 2D fangames (which are free) didn't have this problem of it's OST sounding like it came from a completely different game when going into a new zone or menu.
I couldn't be happier seeing your success REV. It makes me so happy seeing your work get so much attention!
And the video was a great insight about sonic superstars. I dont play too much sonic so I dont have a ton to add, but i enjoyed listening to what you had to say!
Thanks so much stolenearth! Been a pleasure having you alongside.
I picked it up on sale for my Steam Deck and enjoyed it enough to play through and unlock Trip. I never used the powers or multiplayer, so I can see I didn’t play it “properly” and how it would be infuriating paying full price expecting it to live up to the advertising.
Literally a good option they could have done wad the Kirby star allies route granted I'm not the biggest fan of that game but what it could do is just if a person goes off screen it just teleports the off screen player to player one and also only have the camera follow player one
@10:29 Mega Man 12!? When did that game come out?? :3
Idk why it was so hard to jusy have the multiplayer be split screen and a race. Sonic games are about speed, and making it a race where u can jump on or spindash through ur opponents to mess then up would be fun! Even cooler, if someone finds a special ring, then only they go through it and then only they can get the chaos emerald power, but if u get all 7 then everyone can go super bc thats just... More fun. This way it incenticizes replays with friends yo see if u can beat them and also see who gets certain powers. That way sections that require water are just short cuts, where everyone else who didn't get it has to take thw slow route. That only took me like 2 minutes to think of, idk how a team of developers who made this game in maybe 3 years never thought of it. It just sounds more fun and makes multiplayer more seamless
9:44 Actually the water power up has another use. It prevents you from getting crushed which makes going through press factory zone a much easier time.
Also the emerald powers do refill once you go through a checkpoint and you can revisit the same checkpoint again if you want experiment more with the power ups to refill it
Wow I had no idea the water powerup worked like that. I don't remember ever getting crushed in this game honestly but it's nice to know there's at least some other use at play there. Thanks for letting me know.
It could be just me but I actually enjoyed Superstars. I admit it was not as fun and replayable as Mania, but it’s definitely far better than entries like Sonic 4. The bosses I enjoyed spamming the emerald powers with
Superstars would be solid if i didn't have to fight the bosses.
It's better than Sonic 4? That's the bar for Sonic fans now?
Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!!!! You think this ATROCITY is BETTER than Sonic 4?!!!!!! I DON’T THINK SO!!!! I think this game is the ABSOLUTE WORST 2D Sonic game EVER MADE!!!!!!
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Sonic 4 is an incredibly low bar
Terrible bosses aside, my biggest issue with Superstar comes from the level designs & co-op. The first halve of the zone started off good. But once we get into Lagoon City, things have gotten worst. So much of stop & go, pressing switch, pushing that, doing this, basically anything that makes you do things rather than rewarding with speed. They also add too many gimmicks in each levels that are hit & miss and can get pretty obnoxious too. The camera gets to close to Sonic that anything hits you off screen. The Emeralds Power; while cool idea in theory, are very underwhelming and the game lacks any polished. And than there's the co-op; which is supposed to be the games main selling point. But it is by far the worst co-op of any video game I've seen. Even the New Super Mario Bros games has co-op that are better than this. This is a shame really. This game has so much potential and could've been an great game. But what we got is an average game at best and unplayable at worst.
What you described for "Sonic Superstars" is the true definition of quantity over quality. Critically speaking, it's actually mediocre at its core (5.5/10). But on a personal level, it's mediocre at best for me (5/10).
Great vid as usual Rev! I got this game on Christmas. I didn't really pay attention to the press about it because frankly I was more excited for Mario Wonder. However, I really loved Mania so I figured if 3D Sonic is gonna keep disappointing me, at least some 2D games will come out I will at least like. Despite that, I had a miserable time playing Superstars. When it's not boring, it felt frustrating with it's bosses and some of it's later levels. Which is a shame too because I wanna like Sonic again and I've liked a bunch of the older games but it just seems like it gets harder and harder to like Sonic by the game.
I feel like one day a good Sonic game will come out again but I feel like it's gonna be a real long time before that happens. It feels clear that Sonic is just their cash cow now with no regard of quality (which to an extent was always the case given how all Sonic games are rushed but it's felt very apparent as of late). Anyways great video as always, I always look forward to your uploads and they always brighten my day!
Thank you as usual Rylee! You’ve captured my thoughts exactly. Despite claiming they slowed down game releases to increase quality, all these titles have still come out as rushed messes. At least back in the day there was a sonic game every year which increased the likelihood of a good game; now we wait ages for pure mediocrity. And as long as people still defend it, it’ll keep on happening. Because it’s Sonic.
Makes sense so I agree
As someone who bought it for $20 i think the price for the game was justified.
Well yeah cuz that's a 3rd of the original price 😂
I bought the game for $70 🙃
*and I regret it*
@mehiloll I feel your pain I bought Saints Row Reboot at full price.
16:20 SONG NAME???????????????????? BANGER????????????????????????????????
Speed Jungle Zone Act Sonic :-)
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Sonic 4 is Sonic Advance really
Game good. Boss battles bad. 7-10
Agreed
I'm pretty sure Mario odyssey's multiplayer is better than this Mario Odyssey which is so bad at multiplayer that it would be hard for you to play the game
You called Mega Man 11 "Mega Man 12"
It's ok even though I have not played it before. 6/10
Reminds me of Knuckles Chaotix.
"This game rather regurgitade thd same the design from over 30 years"
Gee it's almost like this is supposed to follow the style of gsmeplay from over 30 years that has proven to be succsesfull in Mania. What a "nothing" complaint
Super Mario Wonder is the objectively BETTER game.
Im a Sonic fan and its still impossible to not agree
Thoughts on the Sonic X Shadow Generations gameplay?
I try to avoid trailers for games I know I'm gonna play. I will definitely make a video on it when it comes out though. Thanks for the question!
I loved it
I had a great time with Superstars. They got the physics pretty solid and it felt like an evolution of the 2d series.
Yeah but they got the physics from Mania's engine so I don't think there is much merit to it. Either way the physics are certainly a positive
The camera follows the person who has progressed farther. It’s so easy to understand
$60 for mid tbh.
10:20 just a correction,every single one of the emerald powers CAN BE USED MULTIPE TIMES,they refresh whenever you get through a checkpoint. They even refresh mid usage so in fact these emerald powers can be very spammable
sonic colors and sonic superstars fighting over the "legitimately good game that sonic fans will actually try to convince you is bad" award
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I think I know the reason why the camera doesn't just follow the person in front like in the New Super Mario Bros games:loops and set pieces. In a 2D Mario game, forward is always one of two directions: right or up. It's easy for the game go figure out who's in the lead by just checking who's further to the right or who's higher up on the screen. Simple. But with Sonic, Sometimes right isn't forward. A good speedy section of a level will send the player in just about every direction. It's all forward, but it's not all right or up. I can definitely see why the game struggles to keep track of who is in front. I'm not saying that it isn't a problemi just understood why it is the way that it is.
Why does Sonic always have the 😮 expression on his face? Where's the side smirk that he's had since Sonic Unleashed? (I know that was modern Sonic, but the technique in 3D started there)
I don’t actually mind this game since I often play games by myself
But most of the issues you listed aren’t really that big or noticeable
You should have listed the bosses in this game
Superstars is one of those games where its either really overhated or overpraised
The game feels like a budget game, something made to satisfy people til the next game, problem is, it's a 60 dollar game with the scummiest kind of cosmetic system ever (Kroger exclusive comic skins and Ihop Amy)
The game itself is fine with some very frustrating stuff in it but man it had potenial to be way better
As someone who has not bought the game I can confirm that it looks overpriced. I'd only buy Superstars if it were on sale for $20 or $25 dollars and even then I'd be hesitant.
super stars?... more like...... Stupid Stars!
I actually enjoyed Sonic Superstars. My only problem is the bosses, and that's it.
I agree and I respect your opinion
Superstars didn't fail....
I didn't mess with the multiplayer much but I loved Superstars
Agreed and good for you
I think Superstars is really good game when you get into the time trails. Just play the time trial mode or immediately quit Trip’s levels right before the boss.
Agreed
I like the game, but it feels too generic in terms of just being “sonic 3 and knuckles again”.
Sonic Mania I’m fine with since it was kind of just back to basics.
The co-op emphasis needs to be scrapped and I think it’s what killed the game because it made the bosses agonizing due to the fact it would run over bosses if they didn’t give the bosses super long recovery periods.
It’s a shame because I do enjoy the levels and the character exclusive levels are by far the best in the game.
A 2D Sonic game with fully original levels and non-agonizing boss battles can be a 9/10 with good level design.
I like to write my own sonic games. Sonic 4 & knuckles, mecha sonic n metal sonic revive n rush angel island and take the master emerald back to little big planet ‘reviving R2’ sonic must gain time stones to travel back in time before emerald snatched and stop them 😂
That sounds great
Sonk Sloperstars
It did sold 2 million copies did better than Sonic Lost World at least
Not saying much lost world was on a dead console for 2 years
Arzest is a terrible developer. The fact that Nintendo couldn't get a good game out them is very telling.
Superstars feels like what Sonic 4 should have been.
The reason Sonic Superstars failed is because of one single thing:
*Arzest*
Excluding the absolute train wreck that was "Balan Wonderworld", "Sonic Superstars" is easily Arzest's weakest work. And some of the people who were developers of "Sonic CD" are also at that company. It's truly baffling how the developers of "Sonic CD" went from good to where they are now.
@@William5000000True. I just can't believe some of the developers of my favorite Classic Sonic game(Sonic CD) were able to fall that down!
@@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel Well, thanks to the existence of "Sonic Superstars", the name 'classic' is now meaningless. Therefore, it's best to call the original games and "Sonic Mania (Plus)" as 'Sprite Sonic' and refer to the true golden era as the 'sprite' era. That way, the besmirched name will be avoided just in case someone tries to tie the directionless "Sonic Superstars" to the previous games that came before it; the mainline 2D sprite "Sonic" games (including "Sonic Mania (Plus)") will always be the true golden era.
Is it that BAD? HELL YEAH!!! It’s that BAD!!! In fact, I think this game is EVEN WORSE than Sonic 4 in terms of presentation, price, features, etc. The graphics are so HIDEOUS that they make Sonic 4 Episode 1’s graphics look like a masterpiece in comparison, the music is ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT, CHEESY, INCONSISTENT, FORGETTABLE, and COMPLETELY UNFITTING for a Sonic game, STUPID gimmicks, etc. There’s ABSOLUTELY NOTHING good about this game, except the physics engine. This game RIGHTFULLY DESERVES all the HATE and CRITICISM it gets!!!!!!
bro hates speed jungle
A lil too harsh
Look I didn’t really enjoy the game myself but this seems like a bit of an overreaction. It still has *some* good. And it’s still better than Sonic 4 (which isn’t really a high bar to pass but I digress)
hyperbole
I think it's honestly too soon to call this game a "failure," because it hasn't even been out a year, and in fairness like many Sonic games there are many fans that like it, despite it having some hate or issues.
I actually enjoyed it despite it's faults.
The reason why it failed is because it had no unique art style, people bought mario wonder because of it's beautiful art style even though the gameplay is the same as the new super mario bros series (except U). If sonic superstars had a hand drawn art style (yes, the devs concidered it, but thought 2.5D look better) then maybe it would have had half of the sales of wonder. Sonic superstars has flaws, but the level design is increadible
Fr it should either have the pixel art aesthetic but improved like mania or a brand new art style and not this plastic toy like, generic feeling they’ve gone with for classic sonic since generations. Kinda feels like the new super Mario bros aesthetic slapped onto sonic
I wouldn't say it failed
As an Adventure Sonic fan:
Sonic Heroes: The franchise is saved!
Sonic 06: Nevermind...
Sonic Colors: The franchise is saved!
Sonic Colors, in retrospect: Nevermind
Sonic Generations: The franchise is saved!
Sonic Lost World: Nevermind
Sonic Boom: The franchise is saved!
Rise of Lyric: Nevermind
Sonic Frontiers: The franchise is saved!
Sonic Superstars: Nevermind.
That is accurate
I always knew the franchise was inconsistent in quality.
Doesn't stop me from enjoying it.
For the most part, Sonic's problem is Sega's horrible decision making.
i mean i agree with sonic boom part but like come one...superstars isn't even a bad game that people saying it's the worst sonic game of all time..
Who thought sonic boom was saving the series. And sonic lost world is overhated.
Because Sega is stupid. No fixes and locked skins.
Tbf, the multi player in nsmb was also awful and rage inducing.
Let me save you sometime. The game isn’t bad, it’s just not sonic mania, so people were mad about it. I have the game I’m having fun and I’ll admit yes it’s not on the same level as sonic mania and there’s some bugs here and there but if you like classic sonic you’ll like this game
dude this game is hard to break...those bugs barely happens i swear during my own gameplay i only encountered like 1 bug.
Bro thinks life should be beautiful cute fun wonderful and full of cooperative friendship 💀💀💀
Um yeah? That sounds pretty great actually.
Actually I would rather it be like that.
I know, I couldn't think of a more disguisting idea.
@@mehiloll With weebs- impossible.
No the game actually graphically looks good. What are you on.
He's playing the Nintendo Switch version
Ah yes, the classic “Sonic Superstars just regurgitates the same thing over and over again argument” when if we’re being realistic, Mario did that 10 times worse during its dark ages where they basically recycled tropes on loop. (Grassland, Desert, Water/beach world, Ice World, Jungle World, Cliff/Mountain World, Sky World and Bowser’s World (alongside a post game that recycled the main game tropes)
Except Mario is good, there's that
@@TheSultan1470 That’s no excuse, even when Mario is “Good”, it’s still no excuse, recycled themes are still recycled themes.
This game had ABSOLUTELY NO reason to exist AT ALL!!!! We already had a PERFECT 2D Sonic game. Why make another 2D Sonic game that’s EVEN WORSE than Sonic 4?!!! They should’ve rehired Christian Whitehead and Headcannon to develop Sonic Mania 2 instead. This proves you can NEVER defend SEGA anymore. If they keep making GARBAGE games like this, then WHY bother supporting them?!!!
your overreacting
Sonic Superstars gets my rating of a 7.5/10. Better than Sonic 4, but not as good as Sonic Mania
Ill save you the time no its not a bad game 8/10 easily