Wow! You think you know aircraft but then something like this pops out that you'd never heard of! Great video, I'll be looking out for more by you, thanks.
The Japanese gliders that you present in the video have an astonishing resemblance to the gliders of the French engineer/pilot: Charles Fauvel and this at the same period gliders which also gave leisure models that we continued to find in planners' clubs until the 1970s/1975s. This shows that there are sometimes convergences in research when we aim for the same goal.
This is an excellent presentation. I've had an interest in pre-WW II ram jets for several years. I have found only a little information on Japanese efforts. Your research is wonderful. Thank you, my friend!
The German Wunderwaffe get all the attention, but all nations had advanced, innovative aircraft on the drawing board. With a quick Google search, I found at least two 1/72 scale model kits of the Kayaba Katsuodori Type 4. But for modelers in the 1960's - 1980's, scratch building was the only option - assuming you even knew about this aircraft (and others like them) with no web to surf. If you got lucky, you found a magazine article about these hypothetical "paper projects" while looking for something else. More commonly, school age modelers who wanted 'hypothetical' Japanese Aircraft in their collections would buy a Me-262 and a Me-163, and put them in Japanese paint schemes with Hinomaru decals from their scrap box as "stand-ins" for the Nakajima J9N1 "Kikka" or Ki-201 "Karyū," and the Mitsubishi J8M "Shūsui," respectively. As a sidebar, there was no commercially available, pre-mixed paint for the iconic green used on Japanese WW2 aircraft that I could find in the 1970's. I didn't build a Zero until I was in high school - after my art teacher helped me mix the correct shade of green!
@@F-14DTomcat In some ways, modelers benefit greatly from the Internet for research, and for obtaining kits not readily available in local stores. But one thing I greatly miss from "the old days" is the ability to build something truly unique from scratch that wasn't likely to ever make it into mass-produced kit form. In those days, model kit companies would rather have 5% of the P-51 Mustang market than 100% of the market for some obscure, one-off or proposed, but never built, aircraft. But scratch built models of these "paper planes" were always attention-getters at modeling shows and contests. Also, the lack of plentiful data allowed for a degree of "artistic license" that let the builder just "dive-into" their project without worrying about the same rivet-counting accuracy that a model of a much better documented aircraft would require. Of course, before long, 3D Printers will proliferate to the point where a model of ANY aircraft in ANY desired scale will be available to builders at the click of a mouse . . . .
Yes, with the technological progress, everything is changing giving new aspect of everything, even for the modeling. So every art is different in function of its era and also technics used (modeling is of course an art). But personally, I think it is a good thing that it is evolving because if everything was still, it would at a point become boring, but the renewing allows to never get bored.
Oh you are the one who made these, I have to say that you are great in making these. I hope you are not angry that I took these. If so, I can mention in the description that it is your models.
@@F-14DTomcat It´s OK, but would be nice to add the information to the description and add the link. I made the one with the blue intake and the "even more" fictional twoseater (orange glider). I used the kit from Meng, which is really nice made from the technical side, but it shows a jet turbine, not a ramjet. I modified my fighter and adapted the cockpit so that the pilot is in prone postion and not sitting inside the compressor.
@@F-14DTomcat I´m happy to see them in your video, but better ask the editors of Modellversium if you want to use pictures in the future, so that they will connect you to the modellers. This is the correct way.
The correct name is not Katsudori but Katsu'odori かつをどり. Katsu'o means bonito, dori(tori) means bird. Katsuodori鰹鳥 is Japanese name for brown booby or Sula leucogaster.
Good video! Very informative with information and technical specifications that even this old WWII "buff" didn't know! Two thumbs up from a new subscriber!👍👍
Aircraft such as these would NEVER have seen production, nor actual combat. Why? Well, if the war had gone according to plan, there would be no reason or necessity for their development. Current types would be proving quite capable of the job at hand. Of course, this did not happen and the natural "inertia" in the military would favor designs that were incremental improvements on existing ideas rather than a "quantum leap" to a radically new system. Japan, and to a much lesser extent German relied on external sources for many of the materials that would have been critical for the production of such aircraft and by the time that they were needed most, they were unavailable. Too little, too late! An extra year of war would not have miraculously supplied Japan with the necessary alloys, rubber , fuel... only further deaths with Britain and the USSR adding their weight to the bombing and Tokyo being the third target of an atomic bomb.
Indeed and Fortunately these ''Wonder-weapons'' did not see the light of day because as you say it would have in the best case these would just make even more death. At least these has positively influenced the aeronautical technologies.
Just ran across your channel and subbed. Lots of cool stuff!
Fascinating. You've got a real niche channel here. Excellent ....and thank you.
Thanks to you ;)
So this Japanse Navy jet concept was shot down
by the Japanese Army.
xD, Japanese Navy was very talented about destroyed its own planes.
Wow! You think you know aircraft but then something like this pops out that you'd never heard of! Great video, I'll be looking out for more by you, thanks.
Thanks a lot 🙂 Mass produced aircraft are only a small part of plane engineering.
The Japanese gliders that you present in the video have an astonishing resemblance to the gliders of the French engineer/pilot: Charles Fauvel and this at the same period gliders which also gave leisure models that we continued to find in planners' clubs until the 1970s/1975s. This shows that there are sometimes convergences in research when we aim for the same goal.
I was not aware about this engineer and his creations, many thanks for making me discover him ! :)
@@F-14DTomcat I thought you would like it. This man had lots of super interesting projects
@@sylvainponchelet4188 You were so right!
This is an excellent presentation. I've had an interest in pre-WW II ram jets for several years. I have found only a little information on Japanese efforts. Your research is wonderful. Thank you, my friend!
Very glad to hear this 😃
The German Wunderwaffe get all the attention, but all nations had advanced, innovative aircraft on the drawing board. With a quick Google search, I found at least two 1/72 scale model kits of the Kayaba Katsuodori Type 4. But for modelers in the 1960's - 1980's, scratch building was the only option - assuming you even knew about this aircraft (and others like them) with no web to surf. If you got lucky, you found a magazine article about these hypothetical "paper projects" while looking for something else.
More commonly, school age modelers who wanted 'hypothetical' Japanese Aircraft in their collections would buy a Me-262 and a Me-163, and put them in Japanese paint schemes with Hinomaru decals from their scrap box as "stand-ins" for the Nakajima J9N1 "Kikka" or Ki-201 "Karyū," and the Mitsubishi J8M "Shūsui," respectively.
As a sidebar, there was no commercially available, pre-mixed paint for the iconic green used on Japanese WW2 aircraft that I could find in the 1970's. I didn't build a Zero until I was in high school - after my art teacher helped me mix the correct shade of green!
Wow, so the modelers of this are very lucky to have internet and more precisely Amazon. Btw, you had chance to have a such nice art teacher :)
@@F-14DTomcat In some ways, modelers benefit greatly from the Internet for research, and for obtaining kits not readily available in local stores. But one thing I greatly miss from "the old days" is the ability to build something truly unique from scratch that wasn't likely to ever make it into mass-produced kit form. In those days, model kit companies would rather have 5% of the P-51 Mustang market than 100% of the market for some obscure, one-off or proposed, but never built, aircraft.
But scratch built models of these "paper planes" were always attention-getters at modeling shows and contests. Also, the lack of plentiful data allowed for a degree of "artistic license" that let the builder just "dive-into" their project without worrying about the same rivet-counting accuracy that a model of a much better documented aircraft would require.
Of course, before long, 3D Printers will proliferate to the point where a model of ANY aircraft in ANY desired scale will be available to builders at the click of a mouse . . . .
Yes, with the technological progress, everything is changing giving new aspect of everything, even for the modeling. So every art is different in function of its era and also technics used (modeling is of course an art). But personally, I think it is a good thing that it is evolving because if everything was still, it would at a point become boring, but the renewing allows to never get bored.
It is interesting if anyone has managed to recalculate the parameters of the aircraft using modern simulations.
Yes indeed, this would be an amazing thing if someone could do this. (In particular because I would like so much to see it in War Thunder xD)
Thought for sure it was mechagodzilla type of robot.
Very fierce plane but, very small.
Funny to see my pictures of my models from Modellverisum.
Oh you are the one who made these, I have to say that you are great in making these. I hope you are not angry that I took these. If so, I can mention in the description that it is your models.
@@F-14DTomcat It´s OK, but would be nice to add the information to the description and add the link. I made the one with the blue intake and the "even more" fictional twoseater (orange glider). I used the kit from Meng, which is really nice made from the technical side, but it shows a jet turbine, not a ramjet. I modified my fighter and adapted the cockpit so that the pilot is in prone postion and not sitting inside the compressor.
Got it, I will put it in description, sorry again for the inconvenience.
@@F-14DTomcat I´m happy to see them in your video, but better ask the editors of Modellversium if you want to use pictures in the future, so that they will connect you to the modellers. This is the correct way.
@@AcroAirwolf Ok, thanks for the advice.
Like all the wonder weapons. Too little and too late.
If you like these, you might enjoy the next video.
That is why they are called wonder weapons, cutting edge technology for 1944 to 1945
No one knew how successful the wonder weapons would be, we who are living in 2023 don't know what it was like in 1944-45 Japan
Wunderwaffen is plural. It's Wunderwaffe in the singular. Well made videos are correct, even in small details.
Yes sorry for this, it is one of the first video I made...
@@F-14DTomcat I´m actually a little sorry also. Rudeness and overcritcism is not commendable.
@@LúðvíkKaaberDon't be sorry, you are doing the correct thing by saying the truth so I can improve this channel.
The correct name is not Katsudori but Katsu'odori かつをどり.
Katsu'o means bonito, dori(tori) means bird. Katsuodori鰹鳥 is Japanese name for brown booby or Sula leucogaster.
Very interesting, thanks for the share of knowledge.
I didn't realize the Japanese had the technology to produce jets
We were taught that the Japanese were just copycats
@@rameshbhattacharjee4374got from Germany apparently
Good video! Very informative with information and technical specifications that even this old WWII "buff" didn't know! Two thumbs up from a new subscriber!👍👍
Thank you and Welcome here 😉
Aircraft such as these would NEVER have seen production, nor actual combat. Why? Well, if the war had gone according to plan, there would be no reason or necessity for their development. Current types would be proving quite capable of the job at hand. Of course, this did not happen and the natural "inertia" in the military would favor designs that were incremental improvements on existing ideas rather than a "quantum leap" to a radically new system. Japan, and to a much lesser extent German relied on external sources for many of the materials that would have been critical for the production of such aircraft and by the time that they were needed most, they were unavailable. Too little, too late! An extra year of war would not have miraculously supplied Japan with the necessary alloys, rubber , fuel... only further deaths with Britain and the USSR adding their weight to the bombing and Tokyo being the third target of an atomic bomb.
Indeed and Fortunately these ''Wonder-weapons'' did not see the light of day because as you say it would have in the best case these would just make even more death. At least these has positively influenced the aeronautical technologies.
Wunderwaffen is plural, so technically you should be saying 'a Wunderwaffe'
Yes, I got it wrong when making and when I later realized it, I slapped my head but this is just one of my first vid. Thanks for helping
Banzzs
stick to watxhes
Nice :)