it's amazing that these even exist! 20 years ago the idea of "cinema camera" was a conversation for the wealthy or the privileged. Today, we got options like this set that would have been the equivalent of a couple days rental back in the day
Yes it's amazing ..I think it's credit cards that has transformed consumerism ....how many people need cinema cameras...photography has always been a "ritual of passage"
And after all that good SD-Cameras from early 2000s such as Canon's XLs I'm even thinking of buying the next big 4,6 or 8K-Camera without thinking about the Story. So Sad! ;/
@@ipodhty Because even though you will become homeless after racking up credit card debt, at least you'll have a beautiful set of lenses to enjoy on skid row.
Have you guys done a side by side comparison between these Meike Super 35s and the more expensive Meike Full Frame Cine Lenses? I’d be curious to know if twice the price is worth getting Full Frame versions. I haven’t see anyone do that comparison yet.
Wow, it's hard to know which was more amazing - the lenses - or the video which presents relevant detail about them with such skill and style. Thank you.
Excellent insight into this set of S35 primes. Thank you for posting! Please consider comparing some “affordable” FF cine primes like Irix, DZOFilm, Meike FF vs the compact prime standard - the Zeiss CP.3. I would like to see how they compete. Thanks!
By the time I stumbled to this video these are seemingly the step above from Cinema lenses options coming from SLR Magic and 7artisans. I believe these come at a similar price to the 7astisans. I'd like to see you doing a comparison between these and those other two brands, from what I've seen Meike is very appealing because of the consistency between focal lengths, those other brands I can't relly tell if they do that as well.
I had an emount Veydra 35, super 35.It was OK. Now I have the Meike 35, super 35 and its night and day better. (fS5) Looking forward to the wide angles.
Thank you for posting this video. Request for a review of the Irix cine primes. Please compare them with the Meike, DZO and possibly even the higher priced Zeiss CP.3's or Sigma cine primes. Curious how they stack up. Thank you!
Thank you for this great review!! Would you guide me on this: How do they perform on a C70 with Speedbooster? I am willing to get the 18 mm and the 25 mm, but I would like to understand better how they would perform, are their focal lengths pushed forward, and what happen with their brightness and aperture, do they gain as well? Thank a lot in advance. Became a big fan. Cheers.
Which are John Mctiernan's favorite anamorphic lenses? Think:Die Hard 1 & 3, Red October, Thomas Crown, etc. If I were to replicate that look what am I in the market for?
The Meike MFT lenses reworked some of the Veydra designs, but those lenses were for mirrorless only. These S35 lenses are a new design, made specifically for EF and PL mounts.
@@_rhapsodist yes the Veydras cover S35 from 25mm upwards, but were designed ONLY for a mirrorless mount. You cannot mount Veydras onto EF or PL mount. The S35 lenses made by Meike are a new design, made specifically for EF and PL mounts.
Great review guys. I’m very interested in picking up this set for my Komodo. Any word from Meike about when the complete set will be released. The timeline on their website is outdated.
for a BMPCC 6K G2, would you recommend going for the S35 versions or go for the FF Cine Primes? Are there any benefits to going FF on the Blackmagic's S35 sensor?
For my Fuji X-H2S: I'm in doubt between these S35 lenses from Meike and the 7Artisans Vision (which maybe has more "character", I don't know, but maybe less sharpness). What do you think? Have you ever made this comparison?
Cameraman: I want a lens that has no vignetting, works for super high resolution and has a blurry bokeh. *Post production editor: Lets add some vignetting and downscale to 720p. If only cameraman had focused the whole frame, then we could make the background have a helios bokeh.*
Yes you will be able to use them with Speedboosters on MFT cams like the 4K, just make sure to grab a 0.71x as a 0.64 may vignette some S35 lenses and I haven't tested the Meike S35's with a 0.64 SB on the P4K. Jake
can someone help me? If I want to adapt Meike cine lenses to my Fujifilm camera is it better to go with these super 35 lenses as it matches the sensor size, or to go with full frame ones with speedbooster? Or can any of this be done or I am talking gibberish?
I enjoyed the Meike MFTs when I started my journey into cinematography but now that I’m much more experienced the flaring is unbearable. Looking to offload my whole set.
Excellent detailed review....may I suggest ..presentation is ,"reserved". ..if you seek viewing figures those across the pond are more "forward" ....perhaps a second channel ...different name ...In depth deep reviews of a single "consumer item" are popular...also matched to large sold volume ....Sony A3....It's long known after camera purchase decision ...more the better....Q: micro 4/3 is adequate ...but who would have thought full frame ...purely fanned by RUclips and bloated presenter eagoes...
@@IndioA 27mm is the most used focal length for Super 35 in the cinema world. Sure 25mm would be close enough if I had an actual 1.5x crop Super 35 sensor. But most “Super 35” sensors nowadays are somewhere between 1.27 and 1.4x crop. Which won’t give the the angle of view I want.
@@VariTimo yes, but there is no 27mm neither in s35 or FF - not from DZO, not from canon, and from arri only the masterprimes (and i hope you know the price +g*)
@@IndioA 27 or 28mm then. Most high end sets have those and for a reason. And it’s not more expensive to produce a 27mm than a 25mm. It has been around forever and if you ask DPs what their favorite focal lengths are, every second will have a 27mm in there.
@@VariTimo first, i'm 37 years in filmbusiness, and the focallengh DPs most wanted are 32 and 40mm second, you can get your lengh, but not as a lens UNDER 1000 dollar - meike is not an high end set, its very, very good for its price
@@CVPTV sorry for my language. I really like you reviews. For me personally, I’d like to see them on a intended s35 image circle sensor, so I can decide for myself is it worth to invest in. But showing them in a FF sensor gives next to none value. Why waste time talkin about their performance on FF when this is not their intended way of use
For EF-Mount?... I think people will enjoy those lenses more if they would have an aperture T1.0. Even T0.95 (We really need those aperture for those x1.5 Crop Super35 Cinema Cameras EF-Mount with really bad low light perfermance, not T2.1, There are a lot them out there on the market). In EF-Mount system people don't have faster lenses like MFT, X-Mount or E-mount do. Other problem is the Convertion Factor of those lenses. More than 90% of Cinema Camera with EF & PL Mount out there have a Super35 Crop Mode, not Fullframe mode. For those Cinema Cameras (EF) it would be even better ant suitable having lenses with Convertion more suitable For Super35 mode system (x1.5), like the X-Mount Fujifilm Do. (16mm, 23mm, 33mm, 56mm) and not 24mm, 35mm, 50mm & 85mm planning for fullframe Cinema Camera, that don't even existe really on the market.
It is much harder to make fast lenses for EF and PL mount, this is why lenses made for mirrorless are generally faster (and lighter weight). To make these lenses rated at T1 is practically impossible and the physical size, weight and cost of the lens will increase substantially. Also why do you think you need 0.95 for S35 cameras? There is more to cinema than insanely thin shallow DOF. A lens that is usable at T2... is a fast lens. These are also cinema lenses... cinema involves "lighting". Low light shooting is a very small part of cinema shooting. The increase in cost (and weight) if these lenses were rated T1, would be far greater than buying / renting additional lighting. Ask yourself why are 90% of cinema cameras S35.... because S35 is "full frame" for cinema. S35 is the standard and the baseline for cinema cameras... LF, VistaVision,135 has a 0.7 comparative crop from S35 (4 perf). Full frame being the standard is a post DSLR myth. Nothing wrong with FF / 135 / VV / LF - but stop worrying about it and stop comparing all your choices to it... it's pointless. Also check out the very best lenses for S35 and see where their apertures sit... often between T2 and T2.8. This is true for Zeiss and Cooke lenses, which cost a lot more than these Meike lenses. And 90% of the time, even those lenses are shot stopped down, because that is where lens performance is optimised.
it's amazing that these even exist! 20 years ago the idea of "cinema camera" was a conversation for the wealthy or the privileged.
Today, we got options like this set that would have been the equivalent of a couple days rental back in the day
Yes it's amazing ..I think it's credit cards that has transformed consumerism ....how many people need cinema cameras...photography has always been a "ritual of passage"
@@manoftheroad55 what do credit cards have to do with the advent of cheep lenses?
And after all that good SD-Cameras from early 2000s such as Canon's XLs I'm even thinking of buying the next big 4,6 or 8K-Camera without thinking about the Story. So Sad! ;/
@@ipodhty Because even though you will become homeless after racking up credit card debt, at least you'll have a beautiful set of lenses to enjoy on skid row.
@@AlexGarcia-ze4yg where do i know you from??? lol
Have you guys done a side by side comparison between these Meike Super 35s and the more expensive Meike Full Frame Cine Lenses? I’d be curious to know if twice the price is worth getting Full Frame versions. I haven’t see anyone do that comparison yet.
Wow, it's hard to know which was more amazing - the lenses - or the video which presents relevant detail about them with such skill and style. Thank you.
Excellent insight into this set of S35 primes. Thank you for posting! Please consider comparing some “affordable” FF cine primes like Irix, DZOFilm, Meike FF vs the compact prime standard - the Zeiss CP.3. I would like to see how they compete. Thanks!
+1 for this.
+1 for me too
1+ for the IRIX comparison.
By the time I stumbled to this video these are seemingly the step above from Cinema lenses options coming from SLR Magic and 7artisans. I believe these come at a similar price to the 7astisans. I'd like to see you doing a comparison between these and those other two brands, from what I've seen Meike is very appealing because of the consistency between focal lengths, those other brands I can't relly tell if they do that as well.
Please review the newly released 25mm S35. Your lens reviews are awesome!
These are beyond "entry level" lenses.... They are near the top of class, if not the top. Thanks for your always in-depth reviews CVP.
Good review. I have the 35 & 50mm with the BM6K Pro with good results. For the price you can't complain.
hey Ernest, if possible can u please share the footage with BM6K pro
Had a friend check the Meike 35mm at Panavision.For the money ($600) actually worth it. It is faster than the T2.1 marked
Amazing video covering these lenses! Would love to see another video covering the new lenses in this set that have come out
I had an emount Veydra 35, super 35.It was OK. Now I have the Meike 35, super 35 and its night and day better. (fS5) Looking forward to the wide angles.
Thank you for posting this video. Request for a review of the Irix cine primes. Please compare them with the Meike, DZO and possibly even the higher priced Zeiss CP.3's or Sigma cine primes. Curious how they stack up. Thank you!
5:05 is really giving me Rob Ellis vibes I love it!
Thank you for this great review!! Would you guide me on this: How do they perform on a C70 with Speedbooster? I am willing to get the 18 mm and the 25 mm, but I would like to understand better how they would perform, are their focal lengths pushed forward, and what happen with their brightness and aperture, do they gain as well? Thank a lot in advance. Became a big fan. Cheers.
I like the image, I think it’s a good affordable option to have
Amazing work! I like how practical and specific to the sensor size
Thanks Jake for the good review as always! I just wanted to know can we improve flares by using matte boxes with these lenses? Thank you
Excelente tu video, muy bien explicado, mil gracias, saludos desde Guatemala!!! Julio Apopa.
Put the 75 up against Leica 75 ..what is the real differences
Which are John Mctiernan's favorite anamorphic lenses?
Think:Die Hard 1 & 3, Red October, Thomas Crown, etc.
If I were to replicate that look what am I in the market for?
These must be the reincarnations of the Veydra primes.
Can you please review the Irix Cine primes too?
The Meike MFT lenses reworked some of the Veydra designs, but those lenses were for mirrorless only.
These S35 lenses are a new design, made specifically for EF and PL mounts.
@@flyingfox2005 the Veydras had S35 versions too..
@@_rhapsodist yes the Veydras cover S35 from 25mm upwards, but were designed ONLY for a mirrorless mount. You cannot mount Veydras onto EF or PL mount.
The S35 lenses made by Meike are a new design, made specifically for EF and PL mounts.
Nice and well organized review. Thank you.
Great review guys. I’m very interested in picking up this set for my Komodo. Any word from Meike about when the complete set will be released. The timeline on their website is outdated.
That is a very impressive performance for such low prices!
Nice video! Interesting to see competition between meike, vespid and Pictor zoom :)
i love my meike s35 lenses
The image is astounding. Just wow. Has anyone tried the irix lens, and how does it compare?
Can you please list in what order lenses were presented in the "creative examples" section?
for a BMPCC 6K G2, would you recommend going for the S35 versions or go for the FF Cine Primes? Are there any benefits to going FF on the Blackmagic's S35 sensor?
Wow, I didn't expect such a great performance. For the price it is actually insane but unfortunately the flarring destroys all of that for me.
For my Fuji X-H2S: I'm in doubt between these S35 lenses from Meike and the 7Artisans Vision (which maybe has more "character", I don't know, but maybe less sharpness). What do you think? Have you ever made this comparison?
what did you went with? I am in similar doubt.
Great informative video! What website were you using where you could plug in your camera and lens to see if there would be vignettes?
Our lens coverage tool - cvp.com/tools/cameralens
Hi CVP, how would you say these compare to the irix lenses (focal lengths not being complete of course)
Strange focal length choice for S35...
Nisi Athena or this??
Will these Lenses cover the Komodo sensor when using the Canon EF - RF 0.71x Focal Reducer?
No, you need the lenses which have an image circle that covers FF / 135 to use with the focal reducer.
It'll cover it, I think. Because the reducer doesn't really extend to quite the size of full frame.
How do we deal with those flares now?
my display is showing pretty sever posterization on the footage here; is that a youtube problem?
What did you think of the color performance between focal lengths?
I think they are quite inconsistent across the different lenses, but considering the price, there has to compromise somewhere. Jake
@@CVPTV thank you for the reply! fair point.. its hard to get around that at this price
@@CVPTV It seems like the colors in the 7Artisans Vision kit are more consistent. But Meike's focus respresso is better.
What is the software or web page that you are using to check lens image circle diameter for sensor size coverage?
Meike does not appear to sell shims for these lenses.
Cameraman: I want a lens that has no vignetting, works for super high resolution and has a blurry bokeh.
*Post production editor: Lets add some vignetting and downscale to 720p. If only cameraman had focused the whole frame, then we could make the background have a helios bokeh.*
Can these be used with a speedbooster and a BMPCC4K? I know they will work on a 6K but will be perfect to buy these before upgrading my body!
Yes you will be able to use them with Speedboosters on MFT cams like the 4K, just make sure to grab a 0.71x as a 0.64 may vignette some S35 lenses and I haven't tested the Meike S35's with a 0.64 SB on the P4K. Jake
@@CVPTV thanks for answering!
Do the s35 meikes breathe less than the FF versions ?
after pass 1 year how about the lens
can someone help me? If I want to adapt Meike cine lenses to my Fujifilm camera is it better to go with these super 35 lenses as it matches the sensor size, or to go with full frame ones with speedbooster? Or can any of this be done or I am talking gibberish?
It depends on what you want to do, both ways are possible. It depends whether you want to add a SB and pay the extra for the FF versions! Jake
@@CVPTV thanks for the feedback. I'll look into it more. Your videos are great, I am a new fan.
I enjoyed the Meike MFTs when I started my journey into cinematography but now that I’m much more experienced the flaring is unbearable. Looking to offload my whole set.
Are the Vespid primes or the DZOFILM Primes a better option?
@@dareckmaurice4295 DZO is a better choice in Zoom cine lens but not for the Vespid, as the pricing is much higher than Meike FF prime.
@@cinelensgeeky3648 just purchased the 20-70 DZO
Can we use this lens with Bmpcc 6k pro??
Absolutely, they are available in EF and PL! Jake
@@CVPTV Thank you
Dzo vespid or this??
I can't decide either. Hoping to find a comparison between the two
@@rayterry7 heard the meike 75 has a different color rendition than the rest
That is kinda leaning me to the dzo
@@rayterry7 this link compares the Meike FF / 135 lenses with DZO primes, but is still a useful comparison.
ruclips.net/video/AZ9QjFawqlE/видео.html
@@TimandLauren maybe you can check more vids to get clearer look of what the conclusion should be, mY 75MM is ok
Flares... yeah, it's subjective matter.
Great review. Not feelin the lenses
kind of anoying converting into a dollar could you put the equivalent next...
👍🏾🙏🏾
True, flare is subjective! but this one is just ugly 😜
Excellent detailed review....may I suggest ..presentation is ,"reserved". ..if you seek viewing figures those across the pond are more "forward" ....perhaps a second channel ...different name ...In depth deep reviews of a single "consumer item" are popular...also matched to large sold volume ....Sony A3....It's long known after camera purchase decision ...more the better....Q: micro 4/3 is adequate ...but who would have thought full frame ...purely fanned by RUclips and bloated presenter eagoes...
Still no 27mm. Wtf?
the 25mm will out feb 2022
@@IndioA 27mm is the most used focal length for Super 35 in the cinema world. Sure 25mm would be close enough if I had an actual 1.5x crop Super 35 sensor. But most “Super 35” sensors nowadays are somewhere between 1.27 and 1.4x crop. Which won’t give the the angle of view I want.
@@VariTimo yes, but there is no 27mm neither in s35 or FF - not from DZO, not from canon, and from arri only the masterprimes (and i hope you know the price +g*)
@@IndioA 27 or 28mm then. Most high end sets have those and for a reason. And it’s not more expensive to produce a 27mm than a 25mm. It has been around forever and if you ask DPs what their favorite focal lengths are, every second will have a 27mm in there.
@@VariTimo first, i'm 37 years in filmbusiness, and the focallengh DPs most wanted are 32 and 40mm
second, you can get your lengh, but not as a lens UNDER 1000 dollar - meike is not an high end set, its very, very good for its price
FF 50MM is going to be different than S35 50MM. They should not match.
I'll take Rokinons for half the price
Why d fck you review this on ff sensor. And why didn't you put this in the description
Sorry but I think the segments about its is on FF and S35 are pretty obvious. What exactly do you have a problem with? Jake
@@CVPTV sorry for my language. I really like you reviews. For me personally, I’d like to see them on a intended s35 image circle sensor, so I can decide for myself is it worth to invest in. But showing them in a FF sensor gives next to none value. Why waste time talkin about their performance on FF when this is not their intended way of use
Too blah and not showing what they look like...
For EF-Mount?...
I think people will enjoy those lenses more if they would have an aperture T1.0. Even T0.95 (We really need those aperture for those x1.5 Crop Super35 Cinema Cameras EF-Mount with really bad low light perfermance, not T2.1, There are a lot them out there on the market).
In EF-Mount system people don't have faster lenses like MFT, X-Mount or E-mount do.
Other problem is the Convertion Factor of those lenses.
More than 90% of Cinema Camera with EF & PL Mount out there have a Super35 Crop Mode, not Fullframe mode. For those Cinema Cameras (EF) it would be even better ant suitable having lenses with Convertion more suitable For Super35 mode system (x1.5), like the X-Mount Fujifilm Do. (16mm, 23mm, 33mm, 56mm) and not 24mm, 35mm, 50mm & 85mm planning for fullframe Cinema Camera, that don't even existe really on the market.
PL & EF. Jake
@@CVPTV Thanks
It is much harder to make fast lenses for EF and PL mount, this is why lenses made for mirrorless are generally faster (and lighter weight). To make these lenses rated at T1 is practically impossible and the physical size, weight and cost of the lens will increase substantially.
Also why do you think you need 0.95 for S35 cameras? There is more to cinema than insanely thin shallow DOF. A lens that is usable at T2... is a fast lens. These are also cinema lenses... cinema involves "lighting". Low light shooting is a very small part of cinema shooting. The increase in cost (and weight) if these lenses were rated T1, would be far greater than buying / renting additional lighting.
Ask yourself why are 90% of cinema cameras S35.... because S35 is "full frame" for cinema. S35 is the standard and the baseline for cinema cameras... LF, VistaVision,135 has a 0.7 comparative crop from S35 (4 perf). Full frame being the standard is a post DSLR myth. Nothing wrong with FF / 135 / VV / LF - but stop worrying about it and stop comparing all your choices to it... it's pointless.
Also check out the very best lenses for S35 and see where their apertures sit... often between T2 and T2.8. This is true for Zeiss and Cooke lenses, which cost a lot more than these Meike lenses. And 90% of the time, even those lenses are shot stopped down, because that is where lens performance is optimised.