The Chilling Case of Karabo Mokoena
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- True Crime: This is the chilling story of Karabo Mokoena and Sandile Mantsoe. Karabo was an advocate for women's rights, but in April 2017 she would find herself trapped in the very evil she had been campaigning against. Sandile Mantsoe was a forex trader, and supposedly rich, but to add to his list of damning characteristics, Sandile was actually in debt by the tens of thousands. He was coined as "The Devil in disguise" by a judge in his trial.
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Johannesburg
01:21 Karabo Mokoena
03:11 Sandile Mantsoe
05:16 The rise and fall of Karabo & Sandile
08:16 April 2017...
10:39 The aftermath
15:04 Sandile's arrest and trial
21:10 Reflections
21:57 Outro 
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my rule is - Don't date people who has to be so flashy with everything they do
Yes, classic scammer.
I had an encounter with a very similar demon. He didn’t come flashy at all. I think intuition and discernment is key. If I’m being honest, I knew exactly who I was dealing with the day I met him. I didn’t need to have all the details to know who he was. My advice to people, KNOW YOURSELF, that way, you know who other people are.
@@daghettogandhi8746 Many people have zero clue about narcissist personality, especially those coming from a loving family.
Grové Erasmus yesss!!!! I was blessed to have a mother with Narcissist Personality Disorder so I learned QUICKLY
@@daghettogandhi8746 My dad was a narc and abcent in my life. Our mom was submissive and basically helicopter parent, I didn't grow a back bone until I was in my late 30's, early 40's. Basically a 12 yo trapped in body of 41 yo. For example I made child like remarks in public. I didn't know about narcs until I basically stumbled upon narcism from a video. Search RUclips for JCS Chris Watts, and what this dude did to his family, and how he was caught. It took many years but eventually cured.
I make it a rule: "Never trust a man in a Gucci suit who can't afford socks." 😉😉
LOL!
He’s a joke. Total trash. Weak
Damn well said
That ill fitting suit and those cantaloupe color pants! 😒Dude was tacky AF!
😂
She was my friend.
I'm not sure how/why YT recommended this video, but thank you for the respect and empathy!!
I love in SA and there's nothing wrong with going through this video
Sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss
RUclips ALGORITHM IS BASED ON VARIOUS FACTORS. BUT IF SHE'S YOUR FRIEND I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE REMEMBERING HER. I'M NOT A SOUTH AFRICAN, NEVER BEEN THERE, DON'T KNOW THE GIRL & I LIVE THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. I WATCHED THIS VIDEO LAST YEAR FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END ON THIS CHANNEL & RUclips RECOMMENDED IT TO ME AGAIN. I HAVE WATCHED THE ENTIRE VIDEO A SECOND TIME. IT'S A SAD & INTERESTING STORY WITH MUCH TO LEARN.
@@whitneyhill5586 I think she meant to say she came across this video unexpectedly, and is surprised of the coincidence, as Karabo was her friend. It's the way she constructed her sentence that confused commenters.
A wise man would never parade his wealth. That is the first sign .
Yes
Exaaaaaactly
"Its unknown why it took police 2 days to do anything."
Its Johannesburg.
It’s also South Africa
The police were all busy eating donuts.
Are there donut shops in Johannesburg?
@@eddyraye5825 some theres also world leading amounts of crime
EddyRaye yeah, but in general the police system is corrupt & effed up. I live in Cape Town and it took them 4 hours to get to my home when I made a call with regards to domestic violence occurring in my home at that moment. 4 hours. My house is 5-10 minutes away from the police station.. like fr our law enforcement is so bad that you might as well handle shit yourself.
@@eddyraye5825 Donuts aren’t a thing in South Africa.
She had genuine intentions to assist women, but she was still young and had never experienced those circumstances in person.
That's what i was thinking. Unfortunately it seems that she wasn't very mentally equipped to really be in that position of instructing abuse victims about abusers. Regardless it'd truely sad what happened to her.
Agreed
It’s very easy for people to say “ just leave “ when they’ve never been in that situation, having been in that situation myself it’s never simple, especially when family is threatened
. Tes it's difficult to leave unscathed. i planned and schemed but things hit the fan. I couldnt take it anymore. I told him I was too young to be living in fear and i wanted to be happy. Too many details to explain what happen next. Put it this way. I had to go get my son back he kidnapped then flee to another state for a moment.
Man she's even preaching that law of attraction nonsense.
I hope this story makes people realize just how dangerous narcissists are and once you find your way out NEVER EVER go back no matter what!
Indeed! I left my abusive ex husband almost 3 years ago now and I cannot even imagine how life would be if I didn't flee that day and call the police. I probably would have met my demise. Stories like this hit home 💔
EXACTLY,don't know what made her want to go back,smh..
@@bluebreeVery wise choice..
this is exactly the perfect situation to say "everything seems easy, until its happened to you"
So true ♥️
Fact
Your right
9 Traits of a Narcissist:
Lack of Empathy
Manipulative
Projection
Emotionally Cold
Gaslighting
Never Takes Responsibility
Controlling
Grandiose Ego
Infidelity
I have two of those 1. 4.
Alright Dr.Phil 👍
@@guessmyname6396 ur probably a man then. loads of men lack emotional intelligence bcuse of how our society works but it's your responsibility to correct those mistakes sadly
Leather suit.
Tf is Gaslighting?
I was actually at the same university as Karabo and I remember how her missing poster was plastered all over campus. thank you so much for giving Karabo an international voice.
You are beautiful
Damn that's so crazy. Wha a thoughtful thing to say though, about giving her a voice. It must be pretty eerie for you to see this now, knowing you were there in real time. 🙏
😍😍
@@JohnnySierra117 gay chef
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It's so ironic how Karabo fell victim to the very thing she fought so passionately for with other women. Just goes to show how hard it is to move away from abusive relationships sometimes. It can become all consuming, even for the strongest of people.
@dr. Will J. Rosenblatt That sounds personal to me, have you experienced that? Cuz I have seen many women abused by broke azz men. There is no class standing for abusers or those being abused, also abuse comes in more forms than physical punching.
@Adam Gerics you're disgusting. She didn't deserve to be murdered.
@Adam Gerics she couldn’t let that nice car and apt go and that’s why her mom and rest of family didn’t pressure much for her to stay out.
There a saying that a doctor can't cure him/herself despite them cure others
Women have to be careful, because when they sleep with these men, they become bonded and make soul ties to these narcissistic monsters. And it’s extremely hard to break loose! You have actually melted yourself to him, and it hurts to pull away; therefore, women think it’s less emotional work to stay. Staying just make the ties become tighter to break from. That’s why we have to use the smarts God has given us ahead of time, because she could’ve checked out his background and found out he was a fraud, before sleeping with him! Because most women bond with their bodies and their hearts! Men bond with one body part, which is not real bonding cause he’ll sleep with anybody!
So many red flags. I personally do not trust people who post and brag about their riches. It screams insecurity. I've always said that Insecure men are very dangerous. Oh, how I wish she had stayed away from him. Never give an abuser a 2nd chance, I don't care what type of abuse it is.
And he is a African Man but Many Men do this when they get wealth and power
I'm a student living in Johannesburg and unfortunately, a lot of young girls here remain in bad relationships not only for materialistic things but to escape poverty. Men take advantage of that here. May her soul rest in peace.
Please do a video on Uyinene Mrwetyana. Her story highlighted violence against women in South Aftica. She went to the post office to fetch a package and the employee there took her life.
Thank you for your honest comment, as an outsider looking in it appears this girl ignored some blindingly obvious red flags about this guy! Ultimately he is the one in the wrong And I hate to victim blame but people really need to use their common sense and stay the hell away from bull shet relationships like this no matter what money\gifts are lost
@@martineaaahhh7326 if you really hate to victim blame, then dont do it
I'm so sorry to hear this is a common occurence in SA, Lebogang. It's strange, making cases around the world has opened my eyes to the "quirks" of so many cultures through the local case and yeah, I too noticed how bad Jo'burg is when it comes to violence against women. I'll take a look at Uyinene Mrwetyana's case and add it to the list of potential future ones. I hope you're doing well, and thanks for coming back to another video!
@@martineaaahhh7326 Yeah this is a bad take. Any sort of abusive relationship will be hard to escape. A lot of it has to do with psychology/manipulation and a major power imbalance that is being taken advantage of. Don't victim blame if you "hate" doing it bc you look hypocritical no matter what your awful opinion may be.
That would be a case that no one ever covers. Justice ❤️
One look at the guy, the way he wears his clothes, his mannerism, and the kind of car he drives. You know the guy is a disaster waiting to happen...
Yep
Nah all that shit don’t matter it’s really who you hang with
No the women she is preaching about every guy being abusive and then she literally gets the exact guy she was telling girls to stay away from she was a hypocrite
@@sideshowbob7782 look at all that Money!!
@@sideshowbob7782 why are you trying to demonize a murder victim wtf
It is really refreshing to see a case about an abused woman where the narrator doesn't victim blame, and you treated Karabo with the respect she deserved in life. Thank you for sharing her story and focusing on her passion for helping women!
What does it mean to victim blame?
@@keyquestions to insinuate it's her fault for staying, taking the abuse, or giving him another chance. But no matter what she did it doesn't justify his evil crime. For example, I was attacked by a serial rapist and when I showed up for work the next day very shaken and traumatized, my coworker asked "What were you wearing?" This is the most classic victim shame. (I threw an elbow in his face and got away, but it was still very traumatizing. Police won't save you, take self defense!!!)
It is her fault that she gave him 35 chances. His fault she died but she is 100% to blame for them not staying away from one another. She knew what this mfer was like…She just got out of the goddamn hospital.
@@divinecommerce3912 Well... to be fair, I think the general popular argument of victim blaming can tend to be a bit of a false dilemma, more often than not. You can technically be _at fault_ for something, and take it as an opportunity to adapt, while simultaneously realizing that you yourself aren't the one to blame for the situation. Could you have done things to mitigate it? Yes, at least potentially. But in the moment, we can forget safety precautions, or cave to pressure. You don't _have_ hindsight in the present. You should not be blamed for going about your daily life unaware, but it should also stand to reason that you yourself are also responsible for your own actions in bad situations. Do not blame yourself for things outside of your control. The actions of others, good or bad, are theirs. They should pay for them, especially for crimes that heinous. There is no changing what has happened in the past, however you can take from that experience and use it to _potentially_ prevent something like that from happening again. That's why we have hindsight. Of course, there's always the chance that you can do something perfectly and still wind up in a bad situation, but at least taking actions to mitigate it makes that chance a lot slimmer.
I hope this helps explain some things a bit better, and I wish you all the luck in your recovery. You are not to blame for a stupid man's atrocious acts, and I hope you can find strength in the future.
@@keyquestions to put fault on the victim for what the perpetrator did.
The #1 RED FLAG 🚩 that most all women miss is the 1st sign of an abuser: Boundary moving & pushing. This means the abuser shows signs that he doesn't respect what you say, ask or think. For example, maybe you text him that you'll be out with friends tonight & that you'll call him in the morning. You just set 2 boundaries:1) Respect my space when I'm with my friends & 2) Respect when I choose to speak to you. But then he calls while you're out that night, or he even shows up. At 1st he's charming & explains he was just too excited & wanted to see you. So you feel flattered. DON'T BE FLATTERED. BE DEEPLY CONCERNED. This is a MAJOR WARNING SIGN that they don't respect you & that they have impulse control issues. An abuser will always move your boundaries in the beginning. Eventually that lack of respect & lack of self control turns into abuse. See the warning signs early and then avoid that person in the beginning. You will save yourself from so much pain later on and maybe even save your life.
nailed it
Yeah money does tht to women
It’s not as simple as that. If a man misses his girl & calls or text. That doesn’t make him an abuser or murderer. It’s not a black & white situation.
When he started hitting her & destroying her phone. That was signal to run away.
You can’t group every man into a corner because of 1 evil cold murderer
@@onelove6971 See that's the thing about Red Flags...they are that simple. These signals are the same for anyone in a relationship - male or female. Boundary moving and pushing is a sign of extreme selfishness and lack of respect for others. Male or female...anyone doing this is toxic. It is always a red flag. Watch out for it.
@@lindajeanniton5290 perfection is only in Christ Jesus. Otherwise nobody is perfect, even you writing what you sent have broken your own rules many times before. So the solution is to look to Jesus Christ who offers true definition of MORALITY. Thank you
"Very religious, had morals"
"Single and estranged from his 3 kids and ex wife"
No
>very religious
>had morals
no lmao, not a surprise he Mistreats women if he's very religious though
@@DeezN00tz99 what religion promotes abusive relationships?
@@vinuzo9548 the ones that claim men own women aka the most popular ones around
@@DeezN00tz99 you still haven't highlighted any abuse
@@vinuzo9548 well it just comes with it. “Head of household” just translates to everyone in the house must subject to me. But this is only if u believe that Christianity promotes male dominated households
“He had morals.” But was estranged from his wife and children. Copy that.
Actually, he said that 'he SEEMED to have morals'. Very clever wording there.
@@claragillespie1063 Extremely clever, man needs a nobel prize for that. Make him give lectures at all Ivy league Unis.
Imagine that, " MORAL"
Actually said appeared
Rodger that,😂
I am incredibly weary of charismatic people. They are almost always the most abusive people in the world.
My father was a narcissist, like this guy, and was friends with literally EVERYONE in town as he was such a charismatic person.
He, himself, boasted about how he was so good at manipulating that he could convince a rock to talk.
‘wary’ Yes….they are usually overcompensating as a facade for some twisted hidden evil within.
Mmmh....wow!
Yes very true....n nobody will believe u if u tell em about the narcissist
My ex, the pedofyle 🙏🏽
@@ashl8804 you and the poster above are exhibiting some horrendous low level psychology here.
Malcolm X was extremely charismatic, so was Chris Hani.
Both great family men and who were married and who's wives never remarried after they were killed.
Unhealed childhood trauma makes us susceptible to attraction to narcissists and harmful people. May she rest well and may we find healing to childhood trauma and find attraction to psychologically well adjusted people.
as also childhood trauma can create mental disorders
Yeah don't have to take responsibility for anything.
@@sethukhumalo9897 for anything at All ! Women are not rehabilitation centres.
Lol. You're polygamists. After trophy winners, no sense of a man's character, just what he has. And that's a fact.
@jeromelubabalojacobs8872 that's why shadow works is important
Anyone who sells you a course on how to get rich is a sham. Think of it this way: if they're already making tons of money from what they're doing, why would they need to _sell_ you a course?
Cause they want more.. from rich to super rich its all about ego do you think bill gates need money?
He was “teaching” for $400 a day. A millionaire would not get out of bed for $400
ask again??
Greed
Make sense but that last questions dont. To make more money 😂
Never trust a man that says faith is everything than flex out a Lambo 🤣🤣
hahahahaha
truther words have never been spoken LOL
@busy catter God wants us to be saved from our sins stop listening to prosperity preachers twisting God's word
@@khulisomonica Stop pretending you know what your "god" wants, you can't even prove a god exiats
Ahahahaha! This point here...Of course, God wants us to prosper and I definitely hear what you are saying about the Lamborghini part! :)
A devil in disguise.. no other phrase can best describe this heartless man.
This is the very 1st time I just heard this narrated with so much respect and compassion.....Let alone hearing the details of what actually transpired on the in question....Thanks so much for showing so much respect to Karabo and her Family and every Woman out there....👊🙌still so saddens reading about it, as if it happened just yesterday 🙏💔😭
❤
I'll never understand how someone that takes someone's life, doesn't get life in prison.. they should never be free again.. kills me
Absolutely!!
Exactly.
Money
I fully agree that murdering someone should mean spending the rest of your life in prison, but I will say that "life in prison" varies from country to country. In some countries it means spending the rest of your life in prison, but in other it could be 24 years or 30 years, etc. So its very possible that 30 years is a "life sentence" in South Africa
Juuust maybe it's because it's south Africa
I would never trust any man estranged from their kids!! That’s a huge red flag. She got 3 of his kids and married but wants nothing to do with him. Yea he’s too dangerous to be around his own kids...
There is always a very valid reason why a man is not allowed to see his own biological children.
I think he hid the fact that he even had kids
Not always the case. Some mothers don’t let the dad see the kids.
@@TriniLush7 this isn't as common as people would have you believe though. Its definitely a red flag in MOST cases when a man (or woman) is estranged from their children.
She more likely thought she could use him for his connections for setting up an NGO. It's easy to view her actions as motivated by marrying the rich guy then divorcing him and taking half his shit. She probably thought she was smart enough to keep herself out of real danger and just wanted to use his connections.
"...I don't know, but I didn't kill her." If u listen carefully, narcissist always tell on themselves.
They certainly do.
Once a man abuses you, LEAVE and once you leave, DO NOT allow him back into your life. Only children deserve unconditional love, adults do not. There should be boundaries on what you accept in a relationship, regardless of gender. If someone abuses you once, that's once too many. DO NOT take the person back because a narcissistic person will seek revenge for you leaving them in the 1st place.
Omg. In the video where he walks into the courtroom you can see where his friend actually laughs/smiles at him while saying something and he tries not to smile back. How narcissistic and sick do you have to be to laugh while being charged with murder?
dude id be standing there laughing my ass off if my friends did something stupid in the background lmao
Demonic
Just straight evil
@@ehNokka your name fits you 😒😞
@@nikkip6314 very funny
Thats why u NEVER move in w a dude if u don't have means to get away from him.. and NEVER return 2 an abuser
Yes! Exactly
I have a good friend Im worried about. She moved in wit the guy and the disrespect is out this world.
@@lesliesmart4595 keeping her in prayer, sent her info regarding having a safe plan and built her and support as much as you can without judgment. You’re right to be worried. You’re a good friend.
@@minahg.7421
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@@lesliesmart4595 They got you then...As another lady don't move in with a man if you have no other escape plan.
You are so respectful❤ From the pronunciation of people's names to your empathy for victims and their families. I love your channel and your compassion
Unfortunately, Karabo's name was mispronounced in the story.
Well almost 100% of names were mispronounced, but that's not the point. The story was covered as adequately as possible, considering he is from the UK and isn't used to South Africa customs
Absolutely tragic. Gender based violence is a big problem here in South Africa. Hopefully someone out there can take heed of this story and get the courage they need to leave an abusive relationship.
It's not a big problem. Just the media brainwashing you. Violence in general is a big problem not this so called gbv
@@lukealadeen7836 I do not dispute that all forms of violence is abundant here in SA. GBV is just another form of violence that is just as pronounced. It may get more media coverage than many other forms of violence, but it doesn't mean that the others have gotten any better.
That being said, gbv is an issue as well and not the construct of fear mongering in the media.
If abusive relationships were that easy to get out of then women/men would just walk out of them. Advice is easier to give than to follow
Honestly a lot of people talk too much as if its that easy, it may look so looking from the outside in but there's too many nuances, brainwashing and fear based decision making that goes into the victims staying in these relationships. Its so easy to judge anyone's decision once we've see it all unfold but until you're put in the situation you cant just say how easy leaving is & even then everyone's situation isn't the same
That's true. What's strange to me is that she got out and still went back. Like why?
@@Couldnt_choose_a_handle love is blind
@@Couldnt_choose_a_handle She thought it was as simple as just leaving until she experienced it for herself. All the times she told women to leave but when she was put in that position she realised it wasn't just as easy as that
True
The abusive partner chooses her/his victim well
A man who dont care for his kids is not a good man. Let's start there😌
Agree.
Estranged from his kids and ex-wife is a major red flag. 🤦🏻♀️
Not even a man at all
Yah like 95 percent of the time it's the mother making it impossible for that father to be involved in the child's life order than a paycheck
@@midnightprizm1583 agreed but alot of men also hide behind that as an excuse to not see their kids, my father did that.
But theres also 2 sides to the story because my mom was to blame for some things too that i didnt find out until i had the ability to objectively judge them both as their adult son, not their child son.
These cases are just so difficult and heartbreaking. My father has just retired from my country’s special K-9 unit, and on multiple occasions he has been dispatched to save a victim from an active domestic assault, only to be ATTACKED by the woman herself once he actually apprehends the man who has viciously beaten his partner. Da said it’s like a switch suddenly flicks in them - even when these women have multiple old and new SEVERE contusions, broken noses etc - they are as likely to attack the officer, screaming that they’ve changed their mind or that they themselves (the beaten woman) are at fault, as the domestic abuser is cuffed, lead them away etc. Da has almost been stabbed twice by a woman who suddenly freaked out and didn’t want her abuser taken away after all.
‘Love’ or whatever you label that is a hell of a drug. How can you save people in the grip of something so strong??
Very sad indeed!
I have learnt through time, that you can never change anyone irrespective of how kind, loving person you are. Only them can change themselves. So….. if the signs are on the wall, get out and never look back.
Dude's gotta be the biggest clout demon. He flexed all his way to prison.
I hope he flexes his way right into his prison lovers arms (;
@Christian Collins I smell jealousy
Random.. you here! Roll out!
@@Chumbucketsecret jealously? Who do you think was he bill gates? 🤣🤣
He'll be having tossed salad for a while
You just gained some MAD Credit man! The fact that you wont repeat the lies he told about her BECAUSE they are lies just told all of us A LOT about you.
THANK YOU XOXOXOXOZOZOXOXOXO
@Paul Simon McCarthy 17:14
Yes I definitely got a subscriber, I noticed the same in other videos I been subscribed for some weeks love it 💯👑
100%
Exactly 👏👏
Thank you for pointing this out. X
These young women need to be taught that money and material doesn't make a man. The moment this girl experienced abuse she should have avoided that bastard like plague.
He shouldn't have killed her teach men not to kill
@@ditebohosootho9986 men aren't killers. Humans are stop being silly.
@@darrenholder1864 I'm addressing the fact that he's victim blaming I live in South Africa and that's the mentality of men in my country you shouldn't have made him angry, don't go to parties, don't wear revealing clothing, she should have made a better decision...this is what I am addressing
It may not have been the money and things that attracted her. He was a smooth talker. A so called man of God. I think that’s what she liked about him. He was really a monster.
@@ms.krueger2660 even if she was attracted to his money still don't make it right
I went to school with Sandile. He was a quiet boy. We were all surprised when this came out.
It's always the quiet one's.
Narcissists are one of the most dangerous kinds of people. So ironic that a woman who probably helped so many others find the strength to leave abusive relationships found herself with an abusive narcissist. Ive had my own experience with one and they can be very charming, but underneath is a shell of a man with little empathy. My heart goes out to her. May she rest in peace... Great job telling her story Adrian.
yes , i know I have too. So manipulative its just hard to explain to people until they find themselves under the spell of a psychopath.
@@primesspct2 I understand completely. I've also found myself in a relationship with a narcissist, and I'm still healing the damage done. I hope you find peace and joy again. ❤
@@SarahSmith-mu1wc I have thank you! I hope, you and (anyone reading these comments) will know that peace and joy are available in the other side!
@@primesspct2 Amen....indeed they are! ❤❤❤ Please PLEASE get out of your situation as soon as safely possible. Life is so fragile and if you're reading this, you deserve to be happy too. ❤
@Sarah Smith- that’s where you get the two old adages 1) Easier said than done. 2) Do as I say, not as I do...
When you leave the devil once, if you go back, his evils will be 10x stronger against you than it previously was
These facts are heavy true words!!!
So true!
true, after their masks have fallen they have no reason to pretend to be kind
@@3ooth 💯💯💯 yes never return bcos they will never change!!!
Same with maids
She was impressed with his money and status and ignored all the clear signs of abuse.. sad 😔
Been watching this channel for a while now, but had to say a few things I really liked about this particular episode:
1) You took a suggestion from one of your viewers. This can be hard to do at times, especially if it is because of things outside of the RUclipsr's control, but when it can be done, it's awesome and I have a personal liking for those that can and make an honest effort. 2) You speak out for those that, many times, cannot speak. Thank you for your sincerity and wanting to do more than just talk about an issue. 3) You stick with the facts and tell the story in a way that keeps my attention (this is something you always do, but I thought I'd mention it. Thanks again for posting, hope you keep doing so for years to come.
"He was a forex trader in the city,"
Yep that tells me just about everything I need to know.
It’s so easy to spot a scammer. No idea how people believe it.
What does it mean, to be a forex trader in the city? Help me understand! :/
@@palmspirit1833 forex is real but the people in it are huge scams . They promise you wealth when they aren’t even wealthy themselves
@@goodvibes2431 really ¿ wow I had no idea I had someone introduce me to a forex program but I’m hesitant 😂
@@buddhafortune6166 yes lol forex is real you actually do make money by trading money .BUT someone most likely introduced you to it because they are going to make what’s called a residual income off you .. meaning they make money off of you by getting you to subscribe to them
If a man (or a woman) ever hits you, even if it’s just once... please don’t ever think that it won’t happen again. It will, and it will get worse the more you forgive. Don’t ever think that they’re not capable of killing you, it only takes a split second. They are not nice people. Get out of that situation as soon as you can. X
you mean if a person hits you right?..women also have hands and weapons
@@Redcloudsrocks and they're not talking about that they're talking about men who hit women, this isn't a debate this is their opinion and what they wrote about
get your head examined!
Lynne M. I would add . . . don't let them know you are planning to leave, it's often the case that just before the departure the deady/dangerous attack occurs.
The last guy who hit me was a slap on the leg cause I "triggered" him about his bullying when he was 7 he is 30 now
I’m from Joburg and it was such a dark time when this (and many others like Uyinene which you covered) happened. It was also bittersweet when people noted that it’s the conventionally beautiful light-skinned women whose cases are covered while the many many others go unnoticed. So the pain and tragic nature of this case was buried under that narrative. Not this was and still is so heartbreaking. It’s also scary how familiar this sounds, the ignoring of the red flags and believing the apologies and going back over and over only for things to get here. It so sad that someone can get death in return for loving someone. We really never know who we’re messing with
Thank you for bringing these case to life. I have never heard of this one before and the way you show compassion to the victims is amazing. Thank you 🙏🏾 ❤
This happens everyday in post 90s SA
"I was a positive influence in her life." I CANNOT.
Absolute narcissist! Agghhh .. hate them.
That was seriously disgusting, it actually reminded me of the way this guy used to speak to me, I thank God I cut him out my life.
@@castusaquila4306 who said that...
@@castusaquila4306 actually no he wasn’t, he was an adamant Atheist and disliked anything to do with a person’s faith.
What a fucking hellhound he was -.-
The Mom: where is my daughter
Sandile: I didn’t kill her
The Mom: what
Sandile: what
😂 this 👌 love from Scotland 🏴
This exactly .
She didn’t ask did you kill her , she asked where is her daughter.. which tells me he killed her ..
Well , if you insist you didn't kill her, we will move on then.
@@ntandosekay he's very religious and has morals, he wouldn't _lie._
He answered like a true narcissist.
Thank you from South Africa 🇿🇦
The best channel I've ever stumbled upon. Narrated so well and giving a voice to the voiceless. May you continue doing the good work that you do 🙏🏼
“I don’t know where Karaboo is....but I didn’t kill her”
*Speech 100*
Even dumber than Chris Watts
Stupidity 101. Lol
And nobody ask him if he did kill her damn wicked demon idiot,he is a clean clothes mad man!
Speech -34
Oblivion NPC levels
"I trade forex" is the new "I'm a Nigerian prince" routine. I get friend requests from scammers like that every day on social media.
I would like to know about it please
@@kieodawhitaker708 If a stranger contacts you offering to teach you how to invest, say NO.
It is a scam. They will take your money, give you an initial payout to gain your trust, then when you "invest" or send them money again, they start to claim problems and tell you to send more, or they simply keep it and run away.
Do you know how??? To trade in Forex..I want to learn
@@kieodawhitaker708 That's something you really need to go to school for, as part of a larger curriculum of financial training.
No. Not EVERY Forex trader is a scammer, you just can’t identify the real ones between the fake ones lol
Your empathy for the victims and their loved ones is unparalleled.
I think this case really shows that while it is easy to say "just leave" and people not in the situation can't understand why the person doesn't just walk away, it's just not that easy.
There can be numerous reasons why it's not easy. Money, love, threats, fear, emotional abuse that have torn the person down, even sometimes a bit of 'ego' in the sense that the victim might think they can change the abuser. And even hope, hope that this time the promises are real and will be followed through on.
Even though Karabo(Ka-Ra-Beau) knew all about abuse in relationships she still got caught and ended up in just such a situation. Not because she was stupid or blind, but because these abusers are smart and good actors that hide their true selves until you are at their mercy (moved in, married, pregnant etc) and they have control or until they have broken the victim don't with emotional abuse, which can be very, very subtle.
There is a reason why so many people say "i can't believe they was like that, they was so friendly, they seemed so normal" etc.
As a victim of abuse/domestic violence, I always hear "Why didn't you just leave" to me that comment is so ignorant and insulting. Many have reasons why they can't just leave. Thank you for making this comment because a lot of people tend to victim-blame. Abuse is never your fault. It's the perpetrator's fault for being such a vile human being.
Dude you're like the only big RUclipsr covering these cases from outside of the US, the UK and Canada regularly.
Definitely
This young lady was plain Gorgeous!! So many men around the world are murdering women like they are enlisted in a war!! And these women have so much going for them, and they really don’t need to settle, but they do. And they are being killed EVERY DAY NONSTOP. And it’s terrible in the US too, especially Black women, but surprisingly some women in my community get upset if we speak of this phenomenon!! My heart hurts to see this terrible murder and, even the murders against women in Iran!! So many women reject that last warning, that tells them to NEVER spend that last day with him ALONE!!
This LYING MONSTER isn’t bothered at all, and went about his normal day. Women these type situations can be stopped. Check the background of these men, before getting involved with them, because we’re smarter than this!
Ikr... This channel is definitely one of my absolute favorites, hands down 💕💕
Great vid 🇿🇦
@@marjorjorietillman856 blck women are at greater risk in america due to the celebration of thug culture. Men who abuse women and children are uplifted in the black community ( ie R Kelly). If you want to see a change then you need to call out this problematic culture.
The reason i love this channel is how much respect you show for the victims.
Yes. This is the exact reason I stopped watching That Chapter. To much sarcasm and tart remarks. Someone was murdered, show respect.
@@Keys7 nah that chapter is awesome
@@Buddhistsocialist I'd be curious to see if you'd feel the same way when the story is done about someone you know
I don’t think you understand psychology kayla laughter and smiles can reduce stress and depression. That’s why he does it. Not like he’s making fun of the victims or trying to disrespect them. And I haven’t seen one video of him making a joke about the victim in fact he makes fun of the killer. Makes jokes about them and even disrespects them completely. Sometimes doesn’t even treat them like people instead like an object or a monster. I’ve had some situations happen twice to close ones and the fact that someone can make people laugh in such painful situations does more good than bad. Especially when he spreads awareness about it.
@@victorlozada8274 kk. Film yourself watching one his videos laughing. Then read the comments to your video. Then come back here and we'll chat
Thank you for covering this 😭
Thank you for sharing Karabo's story. As a South African female I feel it is very important to bring awareness to gender based violence, in an effort to fight against it. However, I think it would be appropriate to learn how to pronounce the names of the victims properly. This was something I took note of when you covered Uyinene Mrwetyana's story as well. Please take this well into consideration xx.
Who cares lol
@@mikegillette3021 well I can assure you that those who aren't ignorant, should care
@@thoyanda that's nice like getting uptight over a name is childish but continue I'm not gonna sit here and argue with a no body lol 😆
@@mikegillette3021 It's not childish because I believe that if an American wants to share stories of African women, then they should at least make the effort to pronounce the names of the victims. If you think that is childish, then I agree, we should end the conversation. Especially because I like to have conversations with ADULTS. But have a nice day.
That guy was so full of himself. Thought he could get away with murder. Poor beautiful girl.
Lol. As a South African I have to say that hearing the police took their sweet time is not at all new or strange. I'm surprised they only took 2 days to file the report, that's pretty decent.
Sad but true
5 years later I'm still waiting for police to arrive, in Midrand just outside Diepsloot.
Thats true!
Its the norm lol. The name pronounciation is classic
_TIA_
-- Mukiwa
Are they sure he never did this before?? You in see how calm this man is 🤔
He probably did this before and got away with it.
This is a very great observation. You can also see how calm and collected he was when he drove past the cctv in the garage.
The more i watch these, the more i see how bad we are in spotting lies. I would find all these criminals so genuine and convincing, it is scary how easily i can be tricked
I am South African and this story is still a controversial one. What happened to her is still happening to women and children in this country.
AS a South African woman my heart breaks every day when i see how we, and our children, are mistreated
It happens to women everywhere. All over the world, women in every country are suffering from DV
This just breaks my HEART
Stay safe. Are you safe in your area?
Dont be dumb like that girl. Be smart
Abusive relationships don't ever get better. Leave at first inclination and do NOT look back. It's after you put up with a situation or two and forgive them, then it feels virtually impossible to get out.
I agree violence in a relationship won't work. Also this may sound bad, but you can't help people who willing stay in abusive relationships.
All you can do is call the cops. If you personally get involved don't be surprised if the person who you wanted to help betray you or your efforts.
True, they always get worse. The Narc will punish you for fighting back, and the only reason they sweet talk another chance is to buy time for their next attempt to destroy you. GET OUT NOW.
I cannot get my head around a woman fighting for womens rights being involved with someone like this. The very first physical altercation and she should never have had anything to do with him again.
Her actions didn't match her words ...at all.
We don't often get such true crime stories in South Africa, great job. Keep up the good work
Morals, duh, he was still married. Domestic violence...prolly the reason for his separation
I would love if they could interview the children’s mother about him.
OMG, she was a stunner.... Such a heartbreaking case 😔
And intelligent, hard working, successful and young which makes it even more painful 😣😔
@@alextay416 I totally agree 😢
Love your channel. Thanks for your thorough research.
Thank you for putting this story together so well. Woman in South Africa need an advocate. 👏👏👏
“I’m guilty of trying to build a better person”. How modest of him 💩
🤡
Complete narcissist. I hope he's having a horrible time in prison.
"Forex trader" 99% of the time == MLM scam artist. A person so devoid of morals as to professionally scam is capable of anything.
Anyone selling get rich quick b.s. is a scam artist. If you’re super successful you haven’t got time to spend all day with someone to lecture them for only $400 a day....Like it said this guy’s fee was lmao. Millionaire businessman wouldn’t work on those terms, they’d be wanting a few thousand a day at the least or it wouldn’t be worth their time. Idk how anyone would believe him, I’d of had him figured out immediately.
I think this guy got killed or hurt real bad in prison
She was murdered in 2017 it is not good to go to prison when your case is a high profile and in the media
I love your stories. Keep them coming.
Thankyou Adrian for bringing attention to such important issues we face on this planet. And your farewell of "look after eachother" I admire a lot ❤️🌟
Remember to see people for who they are not who you think you can help them become. Dont go into a relationship with someone whose toxic with hopes of changing them just because you see the good in them .
👏👏👏true that
I actually need this.
@@shahrezza7834 My sister was in a violent relationship with an alcoholic arsehole. She already had damaged kidneys due to a chronic illness. When they finally split his parting gift wzs a hefty kick in the kidneys. It left her with 20 % kidney function.
When she started dialysis she had a number of heart attacks, the last one fatal. It was 10 days after her 39th birthday.
Please don't stay.
@@tst4783 oh Tracy all loves and prayers goes to her! 😭 I wished your family all the strength in this world. She must be lovely. And for sure he's beyond knobhead! And thanks for the advice! Already left her. It's more towards mental abuse not physical side but anyhow now I'm free! Once again all the prayers goes to her and your family. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@shahrezza7834 Thank you
The devil is always in disguise, so please stay alert and don’t trust nobody unless you truly know them.
Even those who are closest to us could harm us too, we’ll never know.
@@artsyhyd - That is so true and so sad
You can think uno a person and still be fooled
Facts!! I love what you said 🤟 I bet your a cool guy 😍💯💕
The men who talk too much are controlling and love drama.
Hey keep up the good work... Terribly sad stories but eloquently and respectfully delivered 👍
You are the BEST dude. Thank you for sharing this big story from our country❤
Can’t trust a man that’s not involved in his kids lives 😐🙏🏽 ( by choice for the idiots in the back )
That's what black lives matter is all about ;)
@@slapmeisterrecords8226 LMFAO
So the ones where the wife doesn't let him see his kids just because she had problems with them
Facts
@@slapmeisterrecords8226 and what makes you think I support BLM ?
"Infectious personality", yeah OK. Hearing him talk about his cars in the first few moments made me roll my eyes. His voice is annoying and so is his attitude. This poor lady. 😢 I wish she had gotten free and clear of him and never looked back.
Agree with you
Bitch if he rolled up in one of his cars you'd be flashing eveeything
She could have walked away. She chose not to
Yes so do l😢
@@kaka3661able cars aren’t even all that but go off🙄🤦🏾♀️
I'm glad to hear the phrase "tertiary education".
Hey Adrian, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your podcast, it is definitely my favourite and I recommend it to everyone. Please continue to tell these stories on behalf of the victims., in the amazing where you do. I have so much respect for how you present these cases., I’m your number-1, Superfan💛💛💛
She was so passionate about women's rights... The ultimate trophy for an abusive sadistic narcissist. 😪
@Shimohira Reika you have a valid point and that’s why many people don’t take it seriously because they usually go back.🤦🏽♀️
@Shimohira Reika check out trauma bonding. I'm thinking that what may have happened. It's hard to admit when it's happening to you too.
@@slimgoodie8945 you know the whole thing about the frog in the pot of water? If a frog jumps in hot water itll jump right out. It will jump in and stay if it's cool then slowly crank up the heat and it dies. Abusers like that don't start being abusive from the beginning. They win you over and slowly but steadily break you down mentally and emotionally to the point you either think you deserve it, deny it to yourself, or think you can "fix them" if you stay and show them unconditional love. Also add in they make you think you can't live without them. They arent the problem it's you. Theyll throw in fake remorse and show love every now and then so you hang on for the good guy that you believe is the real them. You will even look at other situations and say that's domestic violence but then you say no what we have isn't. It's awful.
@@amandajrenfro2538 yes I’ve heard of it and I know a lot of women that has been through domestic violence and still goes through it. People in this generation have made toxic relationships a norm though and that’s a big ass problem in itself. I’m not faulting her for trusting him because I know it’s difficult to detach yourself from your abuser mentally, emotionally and physically but we just have to encourage and support but make sure we are being stern as well or we are kind of at fault too.
@Shimohira Reika no, women don't enjoy being abused.
The most dangerous time in a relationship like that is when you leave. I've been through it myself before and recently. It takes an average of 7 times to leave.
It also even might seem safer to stay in that relationship because at least you can keep track of the abuser and you know his usual behavior. When you leave they rage for weeks/months and you end up being murdered, stalked, assaulted, etc worse than usual.
I'm actually going through being stalked right now due to this. It's not easy especially when your self esteem has been strategically worn down and you've been brainwashed. :( I'm a DV advocate too even
I grew up being abused and seeing my mom abused. I'd get mad at her for not leaving my dad. I swore that would never happen to me... and it did. Multiple times.
A real risk factor for ending up in an abusive relationship is thinking it won't happen to you :(
Victims need understanding and compassion. If I wanted someone to blame me and shame me I'd just stay with the abuser who does that anyway. It's my fault for not leaving sooner so I might as well stay because now I'm stuck and the abuse will get worse if I leave... so I'll just stay. The devil you know...
I don’t know where she is but I didn’t kill her is a textbook example of consciousness of guilt.
Really enjoy your videos. It's nice to hear someone mention some of the many beautiful things about our country, despite our very high crime rate. Other people often paint a one-sided picture of life in SA. I haven't found a video of Oscar Pistorius. Although it was over-publicised when the investigation and hearing were going on, It would be nice to hear your take on it.
I never miss an episode of any of your stories..your compassionate way in which you narrate the stories with so much respect for the victim/s really touched me.. thank you for bringing these stories to our attention...God bless 🙏❤
I can remember the day they announced her death. It sparked the hashtag men are trash. Many women started calling out their abusers. South Africa currently experiencing its worst peak with Gender base violence. Please look into the case of Uyinene Mrwetyana. Her case also called for radical change in South Africa.
Well, that's disgusting. They took the actions of one man and used them to justify their sexism. Smh.
@@GoodPersonTestWebsite you’re misunderstanding. It’s not sexism. If many women can come out and say that they’re experienced horrific things by men then it’s not about pure hate.
@@ianoua3161 calling men - all men - trash is sexism. Plain and simple. Imagine a trend "women are trash" what backlash that would receive. Get out of here with that.
@@GoodPersonTestWebsite a woman is murdered every 3 hours in south africa due to gender based violence....but i understand what you are saying
@@snzn7659 South Africa - like everywhere - has a lot of evil, but it doesn't justify heaping more evil on top. Sexism is wrong from both sides. Thanks for understanding. :)
It's a easier talk about walking away from abusive relationships when you have never been in one. As toxic as they are . They are hard to stop
It's 2021 nobody trying to hear that. All kinds of resources & programs have been available for years. These women Choose not to get the help. If you love the man just say so don't try to play victim when it ends. At some point women have take Accountability for their choices.
Sadly, this is all too true...
Been here when I was 21, I really understand, it's like an out of body experience, it's very difficult to explain why we stay, I do now because I understand psychology abit deeper, but shit is soo hard..
@@natashacutiepie6074 you know trauma and abuse re-wires your brain right??
@@natashacutiepie6074 you can love the man and still be a victim though? your brain can very much get addicted to the highs and lows of an abusive relationship.
Thank you for highlighting this. What happened to this woman is so sad 💔 May we learn 😔
Thanks for sharing xxx
She was such a beautiful young woman. This story is so sad
@@blacktooth3336 ok!!!
Super super super beautiful extra beautiful.
What if she was ugly? Would you care?
Yes she was very beautiful and smart such a sad and uneccessary death.
@@blacktooth3336 many narcissists in this thread. Mxm
RIP Karabo
This case was horrible, but had such a satisfying end. I love seeing narcissistic people get put in their place
Like Amber heard
AND she met a man...
Thanks for that, I won't need to watch now.
Same here. Technology really has changed the game 🙌🏼
yes. I do as well
Your content and the manner in which you present it is 💯
👏👏👏👏👏 Respect to you bro and your team ! You deserve an award for a job well done, the research and telling the story with such compelling compassion and honour. We thank you, from us here, in South Africa. RIP Karabo.
When a man has a huge ego they are the one's with the weakest minds, which makes them not only jealous but dangerous. That woman was so beautiful and smart my heart in prayers go out to her and her family...
Wise words
You must be talking about the richest men in the world all the basketball players football players baseball players you talk about people in your family too..lol
She is not smart but a gild digger . Chased him for money even though she knows he was divorced , never investigate because the money is all she was horney about . And she paid for it like many other girls , why they don't learn that if you sell your self for money u are nothing but object to satisfy the rich
Or a woman
@@zointisarenazi how did you know she wanted the money? And theres nothing wrong with women being attracted to the money bec it's the same way men are attracted to shallow things like looks, good cook, good in bed and many more 💩 just be honest and blame the murderer unless you're one too so I'd see why you'd justify it
The way he claimed he was just trying to build her up and help her was sickening. No sense of remorse at all and spewing those lies with a straight face trying to make himself look good. Gross. When the CCT footage showed him moving the trash bin my heart sank. I feel so bad for Karabo. She deserved so much better. And her poor mom, can't imagine what she went through.
Ira I couldn't agree with you more .Just watching this from Ghana and I am totally shocked .why should such an incredibly breathtaking melanin queen lose her life in such grossly fragrant and and egregious fashion .
I am lost for words . it hurts me so much when I am out here looking for a beautiful queen like Karabo with all her great attributes and such an loving heart to cherish and adore till death do us part . may her gentle soul rest easy . for the dude , the least said about him the better . I wonder what she saw in him to even get close to him .smdh .
A true narcissist.
Right?! It made my skin crawl. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle him.
I followed this case from when she went missing, well most famous cases in SA I always follow closely however seeing someone from outside cover it is very interesting. Anyway, I am glued to your channel cause you cover crimes not only from the US, UK or Canada but from all over the world! Big ups!
Everyone who flexes chances are they are in a lot a lot of debt. Flexing is the only way debt lovers feel validated.
This! 💯
@@GentleRayneASMR as asada qaaârßaaàDdeadÀàaDdaW
Yup.
😂 i flex and I'm not in debt tf
@@rtgclan8143 Lmaoo I was thinking the same