One audience you overlooked are those with lesser motor control. I'm a stroke survivor and my fine motor control with my right hand is reduced, I struggle to hold the standard sized paint brush for any length of time without my hand cramping up and while my paint skill is terrible I still want to field a painted army. When I saw the much larger handles on the markers I immediately went to Deep Cut's website and ordered a full set. I doubt my paint jobs are going to be any better but I bet I'll be able to go a lot longer before the cramps become too much to continue.
This is an important point! The wide grip and the crossover with our motor skills for pens and pencils should be useful features. I hope they help!! :-)
As a former pen and pencil draftsman I would like to mention that we often would add grips to our pencils to increase the size of them. Corks were a favorite for this because they’re light. Basically I’d drill a pencil sized hole in a cork and shove it through, maybe a piece of tape on the end and voila! Then I could draw for hours without hand cramps.
@@JoeFlamenco I also know of silicone outserts? whats the opposite of inserts? that are made for that very reason. Usually to help children and autistic people with holding thin things.
Clicked for the mustache ..... stayed for the goober. As someone who is patialy colorblind the plain color labels are a god send. Thank you for pushing it!
@@MarketResearchReading114 my husband is colourblind, so descriptive colours are very helpful to him, but honestly, I find it super helpful too. I wish it was the norm.
this would be PERFECT for my daughter, she doesnt understand the brush side thats needed for painting being 4, but I love this idea I would get some for her in a heartbeat so she could paint along side me even easier!
"Nobody is afraid of markers" Parents everywhere tremble at the mention. Crayon, pencil, even pen can be undone. But markers... the damage and speed... the stuff of nightmares. :D Great video! these seem neat. If they are ever at my FLGS I would probably grab them for my kids.
I started using acrylic paint markers, both fine tips and brush tips, a month or so ago. For an army painter [assembly line style, simple block painting + The Dip Technique (brushed on, no shaking/spinning to remove excess)], paint markers offer quite a time savings. I average 10 minutes painting time per figure, using a brush, and that includes The Dip Technique and the matte clear coating. With paint markers, I could likely save 3-4 minutes painting time, per figure. Multiply that by 200 miniatures, and that will save me 5 to 6+ hours -- my painting hobby time is limited, so the faster I can paint, the better. Brush tips are superbly useful. Not a buyer of SpeedPaints, but I am a huge fan of acrylic paint pens. Love the video, and the information it imparts -- extremely useful. Thank you! Cheers!
Not something I feel like I'd ever personally use but I can ABSOLUTELY see an audience for this product. Kids especially, seems like an excellent entry to the hobby. Really glad you're highlighting them!
It's been a thing for years in the model kit community for building gundams and such! but most the brands for model kit paint pens tend to be Japanese and needed importing making them a bit expensive. having an easier access brand in the west is nice!
I definitely think this would be a great way to convince people to consider the hobby, with smaller skirmisher games and a set of these you could probably get most people to at least try it out.
Considering how good these actually work its going to lower the barrier to entry into warhammer so much! So many people I know would probably play 40k but the idea of painting an entire army is daunting..
My tip for painting eyes: Take a toothpick and put some black on the tip and then just on the minifigure. Since I started "painting" the pupils like this, my figures finally don't squint anymore.
I use one of those phone sim card removal tools? I find the toothpicks are a little less reliable and the metal of the tool is just about perfect for eyes
@@16Fishwrap16 I use those also, but sometimes find the tip a little small or obstinate. And if I spend too much time with the fineliner touching my model I know I'm going to be in for a suboptimal experience.
I absolutely love your channel. I hope you take this the way I intend, but you are probably the most relatable hobbyist I know on RUclips. You just have such an attitude of like, "I had fun and that's what matters." You don't seem to care about any lil imperfections. Sometimes, when I watch other talented painters, I get way too hung up on attempting perfection on a mini when I still have loads to go. Thanks dude, whether you mean to or not, you make people feel included and that they're doing fine. Its super reassuring, and you're just the type of guy to include newbies as well. Really cool of you. I just totally dig it man. You are a good soul and I'm glad that I share a timeline with ya. That is all ❤
These look amazing. I think creating a sort of "adapter" to use in the army painter bottles would be better, after all, we don´t use all paint and that way we can switch to the color we want/need. Great idea, I would buy these.
@@GeneJordan That could work, but they're a bit short for that 🤔 Maybe a new tip for the bottles and then they're put into a holder like those old cigarette lengthener thingies?
Speedpaint markers huh. Interesting concept for sure; thank you for providing your thoughts! Its good to know about the usefulness of the metallics in marker form.
Wow. Really interesting. Especially if you want to do quick and dirty tabletop painting. For things like boardgames that come with a large number of minis.
There are other paint markers out there too. Gundam markers and AK Real Colour Markers, both will give you a more traditional coverage of paint. Both are very good. Thanks for the video!
Indeed, and these other brands have existed for many years now. It will never not be shocking to me how uncommon it is for "fantasy gaming miniature painters" (for want of a better phrase) interact with and explore other adjacent spaces such as gunpla, railroad, or military modeling. Including myself, I hadn't heard about paint markers until about a year ago, and only then discovered the gunpla world had been using them a few years already. And it's not limited to tools, things like "speed paints" or "slapchop" had literally existed for decades before some brand or youtuber gave it a different name and claimed they had invented something.
Painting with contrasts can feel like paint by numbers already (in a good way!) so this is the natural evolution. My gf has some intermittent tremors in her her hands but this is the type of thing I could get her to try painting with :) Thanks Brent
Really appreciate these informational videos. I have really terrible eyesight and shaky hands so I love hearing about alternative methods to mini painting. I’ll definitely have to give these a try👍
As someone who is very much into Speedpaints as a great way to get my infantry hordes tabletop ready, I hope these take off in popularity so I can start getting them in the colors I use.
I love your attitude, saying how you were "going to be super chill about it" made me laugh. I am trying to get my young kids into painting and I agree that brushes and palettes can be a bit daunting. These markers will be a great gateway, I am already looking at picking up some now. Thanks for sharing this video, it was a pleasure to watch.
Very cool to see these. I've used Sharpies for a long time to block in models with a lot of trim (Chaos marines, Thousand Sons Rubrics, etc.) because it's just faster and more precise in my hands than a brush. Excited that there will be a similar prouduct explicitly created for model painting.
I already use regular acrylic pens to paint miniatures. I have some with two sides, fine point and brush point. The good thing about markers is that I can use them on the couch, next to my wife, so she is happy that I am not always in my dungeon (hobby cellar). One can get them for cheap in 30 or 40 colour packs. One thing I wanted to try is ordering empty markers that can be filled with your own paint, to make my own contrast paint markers. Could be way more cost-efficient.
@@Thantrax Nicety has a good set with 60 colours (16 metallics) with those dual tips, I like the quality so far. I think that is a good and cheap (about €35) starting point to see if you like it.
I've been using this type of pen brush for almost 3 years now and have never looked back at using just paint to do my army. Its lot more easier to control as well.
These seem like a great product for putting the base colors down on your models, a quick and relatively efficient tool to get all your basic colors down before you come back for some highlights/detail/washes work with a proper brush. For batch painting a bunch of guys like a horde army of infantry, this sounds like a great find.
This may not be for everyone, but I think they will be brilliant for beginners. What I find outstanding is how the painting part of our hobby is expanding at a phenomenal rate with no signs of slowing. Just brilliant.
Oh man! I met you at Essen Spiel just after I bought a set of these markers! Great stuff, the chillest dude in the convention. And the markers are good too.
These appeal to me as a compliment to brushes. I sometimes struggle to get going on a project because of the mental barrier of having to get out the palette and brushes and pots, clear off my work area, set up to paint, and then clean it all up afterward. These would let me sit down and just start slapping on a basic paint job immediately. Then once I've got some color on the models and am starting to get excited about them, I can come back and refine and perfect them with brushes. And with 3D prints, where I can just print off a bunch of copies, it would be a good way to very quickly prototype some possible color schemes.
I love your video content and presentation style. I'm always excited with the rare video drop. Also, I think the mustache works more than just ironically for you. I hope you carry that guy well past Movember.
They look great, love your videos, been watching since early days off and on, hope you’re still enjoying the process (also a Chemist here, although teacher and not PhD).
I really like the notion of concentrating on nubies with these pens. I also like the use of metalics through them. As an oil user, I'm curious as to how well a thinned oil might work, and whether or not the spirits would have an effect on the tips. Also, they seem to work well for edge highlights. BTW those fillable markers, at the 1mm size, are $16 at Blick Art Supplies, 2mm are $9.
I don't think I would use these myself, but they look like a good option for getting my kids more into painting. They struggle with cleaning the brush between colors and dealing with palettes, so this would simplify things nicely! Thanks Brent!
I guess for those with really bad / impaired fine motor skills, they could be an awesome tool. Thanks for presenting them and sharing your impressions. I will get me a set.
These are also great for painters with autism! A paint brush includes so many extra steps that its really exhausting when your body doesnt behave naturally. Heck, I have trouble cleaning my brush years after I started painting so I only use 80 cent brushes. Wanted to make sure to watch teh video to the end.
Strikes me that the main audience for these is the likes of board game players who want a bit of colour on their minis without becoming paint hobbyists.
I see these more as a tool to use in tandem with more traditional tools, I absolutely love these. Also, I love your idea to have a sort of "painting party" with your friends, I might do that sometime.
@@tylerholmes2727 It might also be a good option for a hobbyist living in a tiny home or a converted bus/van. There isn't a lot of spare room for paints/models, etc.
My semi-local hobby shop (Michigan Toy Soldier Company) has these markers up for pre-order individually and they also carry the empty Molotov markers and speed paints. I think this is going to help me get some stuff painted this year. Thanks for the very informative video!
I've barely started the video, but i can already tell these are gonna be GREAT for detailing. Sharp tips and loaded paint will make eyes and shoulder trim a breeze.
My first thought was picking up the black for armor gaps and missile tubes on mechs, and see how it goes. And then he whipped out the silver. That went on like silk. 🥹
You can find cheap "watercolor markers" who are perfect for thinned down paint. They can be filled with a wash like consistancy paint, I use them mostly for painting terrain. I 'd love to try to mix this speed paint markers with my own "watercolor washes" markers and see the final results!
Excellent overview. It helps to see it in action so that I know whether or not this product fits my needs. In this case, I think I'll pick these up! :)
I'm curious to know more about the brace you're using through the video. It looks like a great option to keep yourself a good posture. Could you share a bit more about how it's made?
it's a piece of wood on some risers, and I sanded down the edge to be a smooth curve that's more comfortable on the wrist. Some people use a brace like this to minimize tremors, I mostly use it to keep my mini in-frame and in-focus for filming the close-up painting shots.
Fascinating stuff! I could also see them being really useful for trying do freehand insignias and the like; I certainly don't have steady enough hands with a brush to make them look good, but the markers might help a lot. Great channel overall, will definitely subscribe.
No way! They actually made these! I remember all the negative feedback I got when I talked about using sharpies to paint minis. Times are interesting for the hobby.
Who are these for? Their for people like me. I have to travel a lot for work, and this is perfect for flying with, chilling 1000s of miles away in a hotel and painting on the go.
It seems the tip on the markers is much more firm than your typical brush. This will probably be good for some applications and bad for others. In particular, it seems like it will hold a point pretty well, which makes it good for painting angled edges.
@@GoobertownHobbies That's not quite what I was thinking of. I was thinking more of surfaces that are angled between other surfaces. Think a forehead with locks falling across it, and filling in in between the locks. A good brush can of course do that job too, but I think the marker will be much better at keeping its pointed tip because of being solid-ish instead of consisting of individual hairs.
:) Love the mustasche and the video was enjoyable too! I have been on a hobby hiatus for a few years, but I had the idea to try out those water colour reservoir pens with hobby colours and inks (this was before speed paints). I bought a few back then, but haven't had a chance to try them out. I wonder if speedpaint would work better with those given the flow without a valve or if it would just be messy. Worth a try I think.
Hullo Brent, I have used paint markers for a lot of different projects from rocks to coasters to Holiday windows for stores! Yes even on paper too! i have not used them on mini's but seeing you do so well opens the door eh? Thanks for a sweet video and teaching even more about Mini's!
I'll probably look into getting these (or making a few myself) as a gateway into painting! I've been planning to start painting for nearly a year now, but paint and small brushes scare me a bit, since paints tend to get expensive. I'm already seeing paint jobs in my head.. Thank you!!
Did you notice any difference in the number of plunges or the time the tip valve was held open that affected the amount of paint on the tip for some colors more than others? If there were a need for the SpeedPaint to flow more into crevices on the model, a painter could dab a bit of SpeedPaint medium into those areas of the model first and then use the marker to paint in the paint over it. The SpeedPaint will naturally flow into the crevices and paint the raised areas as well. I would expect this to be an easy skill to master, but it would add another step to the process in exchange for a better looking painted miniature.
Yeah, there were differences in how quickly the tips filled up. It's one of the clues that speedpaint wasn't intended for this application, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see some adjustments in the formulation going forward... I'm definitely curious to see if people use that medium-in-the-crevices tactic or other tricks that get developed for painting minis this way!
I feel the Vallejo metal color range would be fantastic in these pens. The extra thin would allow easy flow. Id have to try with the molotow empty pens
Great Video Brent! I will buy a set of these and introduce Mini Painting to my Boardgame Friends this way.. i think they are a awesome new Tool for Boardgamers and RPG Gamers for sure! thx!
One audience you overlooked are those with lesser motor control. I'm a stroke survivor and my fine motor control with my right hand is reduced, I struggle to hold the standard sized paint brush for any length of time without my hand cramping up and while my paint skill is terrible I still want to field a painted army. When I saw the much larger handles on the markers I immediately went to Deep Cut's website and ordered a full set. I doubt my paint jobs are going to be any better but I bet I'll be able to go a lot longer before the cramps become too much to continue.
This is an important point! The wide grip and the crossover with our motor skills for pens and pencils should be useful features. I hope they help!! :-)
I see these as a great new tool for detail work! Probably will still use a brush for most large areas😅
As a former pen and pencil draftsman I would like to mention that we often would add grips to our pencils to increase the size of them. Corks were a favorite for this because they’re light. Basically I’d drill a pencil sized hole in a cork and shove it through, maybe a piece of tape on the end and voila! Then I could draw for hours without hand cramps.
@@JoeFlamenco I also know of silicone outserts? whats the opposite of inserts? that are made for that very reason. Usually to help children and autistic people with holding thin things.
@@JoeFlamenco That's a good idea. I'll have to give that a try
"Rigor mortis is a medical condition we are all gonna have someday" That line cracked me up :D
Not me
Facts
@@Rodsur but only for a few hours.
@@cristhianmlrlol 😂
@@GeneJordan There are ways to skip that step.
Clicked for the mustache ..... stayed for the goober. As someone who is patialy colorblind the plain color labels are a god send. Thank you for pushing it!
Your work in getting army painter to have more descriptive colors instead of house names...I salute you.
@@MarketResearchReading114 my husband is colourblind, so descriptive colours are very helpful to him, but honestly, I find it super helpful too. I wish it was the norm.
hear, hear!
o7
One of the main reasons I despise Citadel colours.
this would be PERFECT for my daughter, she doesnt understand the brush side thats needed for painting being 4, but I love this idea I would get some for her in a heartbeat so she could paint along side me even easier!
NICE! good luck, team! :-)
"Nobody is afraid of markers"
Parents everywhere tremble at the mention. Crayon, pencil, even pen can be undone. But markers... the damage and speed... the stuff of nightmares.
:D Great video! these seem neat. If they are ever at my FLGS I would probably grab them for my kids.
hehehehehe
I started using acrylic paint markers, both fine tips and brush tips, a month or so ago. For an army painter [assembly line style, simple block painting + The Dip Technique (brushed on, no shaking/spinning to remove excess)], paint markers offer quite a time savings. I average 10 minutes painting time per figure, using a brush, and that includes The Dip Technique and the matte clear coating. With paint markers, I could likely save 3-4 minutes painting time, per figure. Multiply that by 200 miniatures, and that will save me 5 to 6+ hours -- my painting hobby time is limited, so the faster I can paint, the better.
Brush tips are superbly useful. Not a buyer of SpeedPaints, but I am a huge fan of acrylic paint pens. Love the video, and the information it imparts -- extremely useful. Thank you! Cheers!
nice!! thanks for sharing that experience, I'm glad there are some real use-cases here :-)
Which brand do you buy of acrylic markers? Have you used them for edge highlights?
@draconarutoking I bought a couple of brands -- similar in quality. I don't do edge highlighting, I brush on The Dip, only. Cheers!
Not something I feel like I'd ever personally use but I can ABSOLUTELY see an audience for this product. Kids especially, seems like an excellent entry to the hobby. Really glad you're highlighting them!
Hell yeah a new tool to get people into the hobby, really cool use and the lack of mess is quite appealing.
One of them did leak because I accidentally unscrewed to top... but LESS mess for sure! :-)
absolutly i would have loved this when i first started
It's been a thing for years in the model kit community for building gundams and such! but most the brands for model kit paint pens tend to be Japanese and needed importing making them a bit expensive. having an easier access brand in the west is nice!
@@kronickingpin Better off learning to use a brush. This is a big handicap
Hair like an Elf.
'Stache like a dwarf.
Brent you are one of a kind!
hehehehehe
@axelmauritzon3098 looks like a Dwelf to me.
He's a one man fellowship!
:D
These seem like a great Paint-on-the-Go option. Easy to throw in a bag and paint wherever you are.
absolutely!! :-)
I definitely think this would be a great way to convince people to consider the hobby, with smaller skirmisher games and a set of these you could probably get most people to at least try it out.
100%! :-)
Considering how good these actually work its going to lower the barrier to entry into warhammer so much! So many people I know would probably play 40k but the idea of painting an entire army is daunting..
My tip for painting eyes: Take a toothpick and put some black on the tip and then just on the minifigure. Since I started "painting" the pupils like this, my figures finally don't squint anymore.
that'll do it! :-)
I use one of those phone sim card removal tools? I find the toothpicks are a little less reliable and the metal of the tool is just about perfect for eyes
You are a bloody genius!
I just use a 0.05 micron fineliner, works great
@@16Fishwrap16 I use those also, but sometimes find the tip a little small or obstinate. And if I spend too much time with the fineliner touching my model I know I'm going to be in for a suboptimal experience.
There's a company called DSPIAE that focuses more on the gundam side of the plastic nerd hobby but their metallic paint pens are *really* nice.
I absolutely love your channel. I hope you take this the way I intend, but you are probably the most relatable hobbyist I know on RUclips. You just have such an attitude of like, "I had fun and that's what matters." You don't seem to care about any lil imperfections. Sometimes, when I watch other talented painters, I get way too hung up on attempting perfection on a mini when I still have loads to go. Thanks dude, whether you mean to or not, you make people feel included and that they're doing fine. Its super reassuring, and you're just the type of guy to include newbies as well. Really cool of you.
I just totally dig it man. You are a good soul and I'm glad that I share a timeline with ya. That is all ❤
These look amazing. I think creating a sort of "adapter" to use in the army painter bottles would be better, after all, we don´t use all paint and that way we can switch to the color we want/need. Great idea, I would buy these.
There's your zillion dollar idea! That would be cool, go make it a reality :-)
cool idea.
the design for that wouldn't even be that hard... question would rather be if the bottles at the end of a pen wouldn't be a bit heavy? 🤔
@@Chaosghoul I believe the idea is to remove the "pen" part from the equation and use the bottle itself in place of the pen.
@@GeneJordan That could work, but they're a bit short for that 🤔
Maybe a new tip for the bottles and then they're put into a holder like those old cigarette lengthener thingies?
@@Chaosghoul I agree. Perhaps a holder for the bottle and a penlike extension rod on the back of it.
That could be easily 3D printed.
I've used these before for sketching and they are pretty great. Glad to see them being incorporated into mini painting.
Speedpaint markers huh. Interesting concept for sure; thank you for providing your thoughts! Its good to know about the usefulness of the metallics in marker form.
That mustache is absolutely gorgeous. Well done. And I am really glad for the video. Great new developments.
the future isn't all bad! :-)
Wow. Really interesting. Especially if you want to do quick and dirty tabletop painting. For things like boardgames that come with a large number of minis.
That stache is looking GLORIOUS
I appreciate you! :-)
- Seconded -
That bad boy needs to droop its way down both sides of your mouth!
I came here just to like this comment :D
You beat me to it!
the chill narration always gives me an urge to get back to painting my little army men
dooo itttttt :-)
There are other paint markers out there too. Gundam markers and AK Real Colour Markers, both will give you a more traditional coverage of paint. Both are very good. Thanks for the video!
Indeed, and these other brands have existed for many years now. It will never not be shocking to me how uncommon it is for "fantasy gaming miniature painters" (for want of a better phrase) interact with and explore other adjacent spaces such as gunpla, railroad, or military modeling. Including myself, I hadn't heard about paint markers until about a year ago, and only then discovered the gunpla world had been using them a few years already. And it's not limited to tools, things like "speed paints" or "slapchop" had literally existed for decades before some brand or youtuber gave it a different name and claimed they had invented something.
Painting with contrasts can feel like paint by numbers already (in a good way!) so this is the natural evolution. My gf has some intermittent tremors in her her hands but this is the type of thing I could get her to try painting with :) Thanks Brent
I hope these are useful! :-)
Really appreciate these informational videos. I have really terrible eyesight and shaky hands so I love hearing about alternative methods to mini painting. I’ll definitely have to give these a try👍
our hands retain a LOT of muscle memory for how to handle pens and pencils, I hope this is a viable option for you! :-)
Great for basecoating, you could blend, wash and highlight after
As someone who is very much into Speedpaints as a great way to get my infantry hordes tabletop ready, I hope these take off in popularity so I can start getting them in the colors I use.
I love your attitude, saying how you were "going to be super chill about it" made me laugh. I am trying to get my young kids into painting and I agree that brushes and palettes can be a bit daunting. These markers will be a great gateway, I am already looking at picking up some now. Thanks for sharing this video, it was a pleasure to watch.
oohh, good luck with the kiddos! :-)
1:41 i love the sudden visit from the supurrvisor, my supurrvisor likes to sit on my knitting projects too xP
Very cool to see these. I've used Sharpies for a long time to block in models with a lot of trim (Chaos marines, Thousand Sons Rubrics, etc.) because it's just faster and more precise in my hands than a brush. Excited that there will be a similar prouduct explicitly created for model painting.
the future isn't all bad! :-)
Always a joy to listen to the true Bob Ross of miniature painting, Great video Brent, really interesting to see these pens in action.
I already use regular acrylic pens to paint miniatures. I have some with two sides, fine point and brush point.
The good thing about markers is that I can use them on the couch, next to my wife, so she is happy that I am not always in my dungeon (hobby cellar). One can get them for cheap in 30 or 40 colour packs.
One thing I wanted to try is ordering empty markers that can be filled with your own paint, to make my own contrast paint markers. Could be way more cost-efficient.
Do you have particular brand recommendations? How do you find the paint quality compares to more traditional brush miniature paints?
@@Thantrax
Nicety has a good set with 60 colours (16 metallics) with those dual tips, I like the quality so far.
I think that is a good and cheap (about €35) starting point to see if you like it.
@@Thantrax And you must store them horizontally, never leave them upright for a prolonged time.
I've been using this type of pen brush for almost 3 years now and have never looked back at using just paint to do my army. Its lot more easier to control as well.
I’ll have to watch later on my way into work. Dropping by to say the stache is a work of art in its self
;-{)
I could see these being useful for painting intricate details, like ornate decorations on shields or faces
Hey Brent! I was not aware these existed lol. Have a happy holidays!
Hey James! Happy Holidays to you as well :-)
That's great!
I paint my miniatures sometimes with acrylic pens, you normal use to paint stones. I love the ease of pencils
Awesome! Been excited for this one since you mentioned it on the podcast :)
These seem like a great product for putting the base colors down on your models, a quick and relatively efficient tool to get all your basic colors down before you come back for some highlights/detail/washes work with a proper brush. For batch painting a bunch of guys like a horde army of infantry, this sounds like a great find.
Great idea for someone that wants their mini's to look presentable and table ready in a short amount of time.
I never saw an Elf with mustache before!
Have a happy new year Brent! Thanks for share your knowledge with us.
Thanks for the video! I was not aware of these. You always share great information!
This may not be for everyone, but I think they will be brilliant for beginners. What I find outstanding is how the painting part of our hobby is expanding at a phenomenal rate with no signs of slowing. Just brilliant.
Great video ! I was on the fence about those markers, and you convinced me =)
try a few and see if you like them! :-)
Oh man! I met you at Essen Spiel just after I bought a set of these markers! Great stuff, the chillest dude in the convention. And the markers are good too.
@@grubazz4246 great to meet you!!! :-)
I missed the last few videos. Imagine my surprise when I come back and see that glorious stache.
Because he didn't already look creepy enough....
don't be jealous, son.
These appeal to me as a compliment to brushes. I sometimes struggle to get going on a project because of the mental barrier of having to get out the palette and brushes and pots, clear off my work area, set up to paint, and then clean it all up afterward. These would let me sit down and just start slapping on a basic paint job immediately. Then once I've got some color on the models and am starting to get excited about them, I can come back and refine and perfect them with brushes.
And with 3D prints, where I can just print off a bunch of copies, it would be a good way to very quickly prototype some possible color schemes.
This was pretty much my logic, ordered a set!
I've been looking forward to this since you mentioned it on paint bravely
“Rigor Mortis is a medical condition that we’re all going to have some day” Is such a good quote lol
Close enough. Welcome back Vercingetorix.
reborn at last!
I knew he reminded me of SOMEBODY! Watch out for Julius Caesar, Brent!
NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHERE ALESIA IS!
I love your video content and presentation style. I'm always excited with the rare video drop.
Also, I think the mustache works more than just ironically for you. I hope you carry that guy well past Movember.
They look great, love your videos, been watching since early days off and on, hope you’re still enjoying the process (also a Chemist here, although teacher and not PhD).
Heck yeah! I'm glad you're still hanging out :-)
I really like the notion of concentrating on nubies with these pens. I also like the use of metalics through them.
As an oil user, I'm curious as to how well a thinned oil might work, and whether or not the spirits would have an effect on the tips.
Also, they seem to work well for edge highlights.
BTW those fillable markers, at the 1mm size, are $16 at Blick Art Supplies, 2mm are $9.
I think some companies have already put oil washes in pens? it should work pretty well! :-)
can’t wait till “miniature drawing” becomes the new term everyone uses haha
Not a new thing. To this day in my language an Icon can only be writen, only secular stuff gets painted.
Sounds perfect for small kids painting with dad. As always, great video!
This is such an awesome idea. thank you for sharing 🙂
What a great product idea, very impressed with silver metallic finish… thanks for sharing
The Lorax speaks for the painters now?
hehehehehe
I don't think I would use these myself, but they look like a good option for getting my kids more into painting. They struggle with cleaning the brush between colors and dealing with palettes, so this would simplify things nicely! Thanks Brent!
Where's Brent? Also, I'm pretty surprised that Goobertown hired Bert Mabers again
I guess for those with really bad / impaired fine motor skills, they could be an awesome tool. Thanks for presenting them and sharing your impressions. I will get me a set.
These are also great for painters with autism! A paint brush includes so many extra steps that its really exhausting when your body doesnt behave naturally. Heck, I have trouble cleaning my brush years after I started painting so I only use 80 cent brushes. Wanted to make sure to watch teh video to the end.
This is a great point, thank you so much for bringing it up! :-)
Thanks Brent, I really enjoyed this preview of this interesting new painting method.
Thank you for featuring these!
I saw your comment on the PSA podcast and now i love you more.
Strikes me that the main audience for these is the likes of board game players who want a bit of colour on their minis without becoming paint hobbyists.
that's how it starts... :-)
Thanks again for another great video! Can't say enough how I appreciate your science approach to testing different items
3:36 a helper arrived
I see these more as a tool to use in tandem with more traditional tools, I absolutely love these.
Also, I love your idea to have a sort of "painting party" with your friends, I might do that sometime.
I'm going on a cruise and I think this would be perfect for that sort of occasion
hehehe, livin large, my friend, livin large!!! :-)
@@tylerholmes2727 It might also be a good option for a hobbyist living in a tiny home or a converted bus/van. There isn't a lot of spare room for paints/models, etc.
My semi-local hobby shop (Michigan Toy Soldier Company) has these markers up for pre-order individually and they also carry the empty Molotov markers and speed paints. I think this is going to help me get some stuff painted this year. Thanks for the very informative video!
I've barely started the video, but i can already tell these are gonna be GREAT for detailing. Sharp tips and loaded paint will make eyes and shoulder trim a breeze.
I hope it gives you some ideas that you can use :-)
My first thought was picking up the black for armor gaps and missile tubes on mechs, and see how it goes. And then he whipped out the silver. That went on like silk. 🥹
You can find cheap "watercolor markers" who are perfect for thinned down paint. They can be filled with a wash like consistancy paint, I use them mostly for painting terrain. I 'd love to try to mix this speed paint markers with my own "watercolor washes" markers and see the final results!
Aren't they just AP speed paint on watercolor brush (the ones that you can fill w/water?
yup! (or ~ pump spring paint markers) I'm surprised nobody did this before... but here we are.
Excellent overview. It helps to see it in action so that I know whether or not this product fits my needs. In this case, I think I'll pick these up! :)
I gotta say, the results are really impressive, but I can't help but wonder if that is mostly due to the skill of the painter
results will vary, but i think all of us have a higher baseline of motor skills with markers than we do with brushes.
I'm curious to know more about the brace you're using through the video. It looks like a great option to keep yourself a good posture.
Could you share a bit more about how it's made?
it's a piece of wood on some risers, and I sanded down the edge to be a smooth curve that's more comfortable on the wrist. Some people use a brace like this to minimize tremors, I mostly use it to keep my mini in-frame and in-focus for filming the close-up painting shots.
These look perfect for travel or to introduce kids into painting.
right? :-)
Fascinating stuff! I could also see them being really useful for trying do freehand insignias and the like; I certainly don't have steady enough hands with a brush to make them look good, but the markers might help a lot. Great channel overall, will definitely subscribe.
As a fellow mustache enthusiast, welcome to the club.
thanks for the warm welcome! :-)
You have by far the most relaxing voice I've ever heard
That Lip Duster.......soooo nice.
No way! They actually made these! I remember all the negative feedback I got when I talked about using sharpies to paint minis. Times are interesting for the hobby.
Who are these for? Their for people like me. I have to travel a lot for work, and this is perfect for flying with, chilling 1000s of miles away in a hotel and painting on the go.
oh yeah, there ya go :-)
It seems the tip on the markers is much more firm than your typical brush. This will probably be good for some applications and bad for others. In particular, it seems like it will hold a point pretty well, which makes it good for painting angled edges.
indeed! the transparency of speedpaint may or may-not be suitable for edge highlighting, but the tips are well-suited I think.
@@GoobertownHobbies That's not quite what I was thinking of. I was thinking more of surfaces that are angled between other surfaces. Think a forehead with locks falling across it, and filling in in between the locks.
A good brush can of course do that job too, but I think the marker will be much better at keeping its pointed tip because of being solid-ish instead of consisting of individual hairs.
Rigor mortus is a color we'll all have someday. lol that one got me laughing
:) Love the mustasche and the video was enjoyable too! I have been on a hobby hiatus for a few years, but I had the idea to try out those water colour reservoir pens with hobby colours and inks (this was before speed paints). I bought a few back then, but haven't had a chance to try them out. I wonder if speedpaint would work better with those given the flow without a valve or if it would just be messy. Worth a try I think.
Welcome back, it's good to see ya! :-)
Weee ... 5 Seconds of fame in a Goobertown video, explaining stuff for OPR ^^ (11:30 , the guy with the second best stache in this video ^^)
Thanks for being a good sport! It was great hanging out for a bit :-)
Hullo Brent, I have used paint markers for a lot of different projects from rocks to coasters to Holiday windows for stores! Yes even on paper too! i have not used them on mini's but seeing you do so well opens the door eh? Thanks for a sweet video and teaching even more about Mini's!
nice! you should use your collection on some minis and let us know how it goes :-)
Mustache arc
Looks like a good set to get a solid basecoat down for then doing details. Battle ready tool for sure. Thanks for the thorough review.
Mustache Brent is best Brent.
I'll probably look into getting these (or making a few myself) as a gateway into painting! I've been planning to start painting for nearly a year now, but paint and small brushes scare me a bit, since paints tend to get expensive. I'm already seeing paint jobs in my head.. Thank you!!
that's amazing to hear! It's an awesome hobby, please do find a way to take that first step :-)
Im not a fan. But if helps ppl get stuff painted...
more options seems like a good thing! I won't use these a ton, but for some people they might be great
@@GoobertownHobbies 💯
This is perfect timing! my 6 year old wants to try painting but has little experience with a brush and TONS with markers.
the new recruit has all the skills that they need!
Did you notice any difference in the number of plunges or the time the tip valve was held open that affected the amount of paint on the tip for some colors more than others?
If there were a need for the SpeedPaint to flow more into crevices on the model, a painter could dab a bit of SpeedPaint medium into those areas of the model first and then use the marker to paint in the paint over it. The SpeedPaint will naturally flow into the crevices and paint the raised areas as well.
I would expect this to be an easy skill to master, but it would add another step to the process in exchange for a better looking painted miniature.
Yeah, there were differences in how quickly the tips filled up. It's one of the clues that speedpaint wasn't intended for this application, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see some adjustments in the formulation going forward... I'm definitely curious to see if people use that medium-in-the-crevices tactic or other tricks that get developed for painting minis this way!
I feel the Vallejo metal color range would be fantastic in these pens. The extra thin would allow easy flow. Id have to try with the molotow empty pens
probably! Vallejo workers are on strike right now, which is the only reason I didn't try exactly this on camera :-)
i came here just for the moustache, looks awesome Bret!!!
Great Video Brent! I will buy a set of these and introduce Mini Painting to my Boardgame Friends this way.. i think they are a awesome new Tool for Boardgamers and RPG Gamers for sure! thx!
oooh, have fun with the recruitment!! :-)