Mega Church Pastor Robert Morris RESIGNED After ELDERS Discover This
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I definitely understand you were molested as a child but I would like to know if Pastor Morris went to jail and came out and then bill the church. What would’ve been your thoughts on that number two what are the steps biblically for these types situations to recover?
Sadly was wondering the same thing.
Does he even believe in repentance or not?
How long does sexual sin need to be punished and keep you from leading a church?
If he needs to do jail time, so be it.
But a man who repented needs to be restored.
And that poor woman needs to be fully restored as well
God does forgive, but the consequences dont go away. God forgave David, but his whole household fell apart for what he did to Uriah.
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Facts
I was14 in 1982 and kidnapped (at gunpoint) then raped. I was waiting for my mom to pick me up, at my Catholic school. Only by the grace of God the guy didn't kill me. It changes your whole life & almost broke me; but Jesus found me & saved me. Shame on Morris for hurting & abusing that 12 year old girl! Not only did he lie about how old she was; he also blamed her for the reason why he did it.
According to an eye witness who was working at Shady Grove Church, he was originally sent to Shady Grove Church which became Gateway Church and was a traveling evangelist. He was married at 19 and at 21 was allowed to stay at the victims home when he was in town where he began the molestation on Christmas Day or as he calls it a "moral failure" or "inappropriate". He told her NOT to tell anyone. According to reports once he realized it may come out after four years of molesting her and he had been removed from his current ministry; James Robinson (Life Outreach) got somehow involved. He then took him to Shady Grove for "restoration". According to an eye witness the pastor Olen Griffing (a previous Texas State Trooper), James Robinson and another elder went to the girls home and MET with her parents. They all KNEW. Just so you know Olen Griffing is STILL at Gateway as an Apostolic Elder meaning over everyone as a leader in that church!! I can imagine they convinced the parents this would cause grevious harm to the church if this came out. Vile. After his so called restoration he was made an Elder at the ripe old age of 29. Just 3 Years after the molestation had ceased when the victim was 16. In his books and statements he referred to her as a young lady! He abused his position and power to groom the child and then went on to groom the church. He is part of a group of mega church pastors called ARK that all protect each other. He is said to currently be worth over 100 million. They are Pharisees and people need to read Matthew 24 over and over where Jesus confronts these Sons of Hell. Oh and BTW Roberts wife was kind enough to call the victim and tell her she forgave her!! He blamed the victim calling her flurtatious, a jezabelle and he was the VICTIM. She was 12! Pause on this, after years of therapy she obtained a lawyer to get some reimbursement for her therapy and offered half of what she ask for which was NOTHING and wanted her to sign an NDA she said no thank goodness. Repentence must be followed up by restitution and he should have been turned over to the authorities. And yes I was a an adult and mother at that time and men went to jail for molestation and rape of young girls.
That was a good summary of the interview Justin Peters had with a former member of the Shady Grove Church and a friend of Robert Morris' who was there when all of this was going on. A lot of facts came out in that video, but I can't stand Justin's attitude towards all Pentecostals/Charismatics.
If a Christian does not believe in his and John MacArthur's reformed theology, then they are false, according to Justin Peters and MacArthur.
It IS very possible that Robinson and other convinced the parents to protect the church, but we have no way of proving this unless James Robinson would come forth himself and admit he made a mistake. When I heard the eye witness say that James had him speaking at high schools and then within a year speaking at his crusades, the verse about not putting novices into leadership positions came to my mind.
The church planting organization you referred to was not ARK but ARC, the Association of Related Churches.
If he truly was a Christian he would've admitted his crime and turned himself in back then. But he and others chose to cover it up which is against God's Word, anything that's kept in the dark always gets brought out into the light. Him and this collective of churches involved are false.
It's sadly the reason many turn away from church.
I do appreciate the way Ruslan is reacting and calling this out.
We all need to be vigilant by demanding truth, transparency, while activating the appropriate punishment.
His resignation as a Pastor is the minimum punishment one should expect.
However, truthfully he should be arrested.
Children are our future, therefore need protecting.
It's time we brake the cycle of depravity and allowing Satan in.
It's not about the Church. The sickness in the human condition that believes protecting institutions is paramount over the concerns for the victim or victims needs to stop. Only then can kingdoms/societies heal and be cleansed.
Satan is having an ‘Hayday’ with this information, technology will provide to the whole world. Wonder how many participants are on this site who have never sinned? Bible states if you break the least of the commandments you are guilty of breaking them All! Where we stand? Where do you stand when it comes to breaking Gods Heart, His Commandments?
@@audreyhartmark Be tenacious in keeping children and vulnerable adults safe in your church. It's an outrage for someone who had so much trust invested in them to abuse a minor (especially in the home of her parents, who had offered hospitality to him and presumably his young family). This was not a one-off, and it included penetration of her body. He should been handed over to the authorities when his activities were uncovered. He has enjoyed 35 years of freedom his victim has not.
People comparing this to David or Paul is a good example of just how goofy some church cultures have gotten
THANK YOU!!!!
how is that ?
@@bud4au575 Because pedophilia is nothing like adultery??
@bud4au575 cause that man ain't a david or Paul but people would go to such lengths to defend him
Read your bible then you can see how God uses everyone to accomplish His work. Even sinners like you! Read the sermon on the mound.
The 2 things we should take from this situation is .. 1. to be vigilant about our own soul salvation. See our own capability for failure and endeavor to never be in a situation of scandal. 2. Remember that there are people among us that have been abused by the pulpit and we should work to restore them and contribute to their healing.
My pastor at my last church stepped down after a moral failure. 🙄 I roll my eyes because I don’t understand why we have to use the term moral failure when what we should be calling it is SIN.
Well it seems easier to say, moral failure over I have sinned against God. And in this case he not only sinned, but he committed a significant crime that should have lead to prison time.
Let me fix the article. The church elders didn't WANT to know the details of the situation. She's clearly been sharing her story for years and no one was listening. Yes the pastor lied, but the elders didn't do their due diligence and I think their positions should be up for review too, subject to investigation.
Good take
so it took 35 years to find someone that would listen ? come on
I agree🙏
Money
Yes!
This has made me physically ill. I’m committed to helping protect kids from SA in churches, schools , anywhere. I pray churches will be proactive in prevention.
People at my church mad at me for saying he should be forgiven but not allowed to Pastor. They came for my head, said he without sin cast the first stone 😅 true story
His forgiveness was not sincere. He only resigned because he got caught. He should be in prison if the crimes are true.
Forgiveness is possible and justice should not be forsaken at the same time.
@@brendanmassie9586 do you run around talking about what sin you sinned ? how do you know what he asked for forgiveness for ?
@@bud4au575 if he was serious about his repentance he would have submitted himself to the authorities as Paul says and turned himself in way before getting caught. Instead he assumed leadership in the name of God and tarnishes the name of our lord. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Plus it he also preached heresy in his christology multiple times
I'm in a Gateway inspired church in Texas and the consensus from my "leadership" is that we should not be publicly judging him and that we all have sinned and will have to be held accountable to God. Needless to say, I will not be attending this church for much longer
In a RUclips interview by Justin Peters on 6/18/2024, Steve Leblanc, current pastor of Sherman Bible Church in Sherman, Texas and former Shady Grove Church pastor (1988-2002) and Gateway Church pastor (2011-2014) and very close friend of Robert Morris during that time states:
1. Most elders did not know who the victim was at the time. He did not. He was told it was an "affair".
2. James Robison most definitely knew the details because he met with the family.
3. Olen Griffing, who is STILL an elder at Gateway Church, most definitely knew the truth because he met with the family.
4. Robert Morris told Leblanc personally that the "woman" he had an affair with had a "Jessabelle Spirit", was very flirtatious and seduced him, and when he tried to cut it off, she threatened him with telling and demanded he keep seeing her. Leblanc had no idea he was talking about a 12-16 year old child!!!
jeez. sounds like he definitely never repented of that
Thank you.
The details are painful but needed.
Where to begin… 🤔
Robert Morris came to my family’s home for dinner while traveling in ministry. My twin sister and I were 12 years old at the time. This was back in 1992 or 93.
He assaulted that girl for 4.5 years and what has now been found out, he didn’t really have much of a break in ministering after being found out. Once found out (no by confession) he was sorry he got caught. He is a liar and manipulator. 3 years after SA her, he was made an elder. The elders and James Robinson all knew how old she was. They met with her and her family at the time. Robert’s wife, Debbie also knew. The proceeded to cover it up. Lie about it and downplay it.
Debbie has tried for years to bring this to the light. God has bigger and better ways than we do. He’s bringing dark out to the light right now.
I was a member and worked at Gateway for a period of time. My dad was on staff for 9 years. My sister is currently on staff.
It wasn’t handled right in the beginning and it’s still not being handled right.
Robert Morris has been lying about this for over 35 years. In a book, at the pulpit as well. Some of the current elders know, I’m sure. Most leaders at Gateway do not, but I’m sure some do.
They already had a back up plan in place for when it came out. I suspect Gateway will fall apart. He had deceived so many. There are some people that were close to him speaking out. It’s heartbreaking. I knew things were not running right within Gateway and it always starts at the top and trickles down. Lots of power and manipulation running in that place. Their motto is, “We’re all about people”. And that’s exactly right, they’re not about Jesus. Only about pleasing people. My mom was told not to use sign language to sign Jesus during worship because it’ll basically give a bad taste in the mouth of visitors. My dad was told to let one of his employees know that if he didn’t get his teeth fixed, they’d fire him bc he just doesn’t look like Gateway. They’d let just about anyone pray with you at the alter. It could be an unsaved person or satan worshipper, there is know way they would know. I have always found that disturbing.
He needs to be in jail. All the others need a felony charge.
Praying for all dark to come to the light.
Thank you four sharing.
🙏🏾
He should've been fired and stripped from his title of a pastor, him resigning leaves the door open for im to go back to another church and start pastoring again. however back in 1989 he should've never been given the clear to be a pastor to begin with...
Paul said we shouldn’t even eat a meal with this man.
Paul was a similar story
@@TM-Honor_GPaul wasn’t a child molester
My grandfather called me a legalistic Pharisee for bashing Robert Morris, like idk what people are thinking
Well, all things considered if he had been charged (if it was reported when it happened) Morris would not have been a Pastor. The church, and church leaders who knew at the time she told her family should have filed a police report….Period!!!
Serious, does no one understand this is a crime?? Not just immoral bro… it is a sexual abuse pedophilic crime!!!
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I'm confused about the elders saying they didn't know the age of the " young lady" until recently. According to the story, the only reason Morris stepped out of ministry was because the victim's father approached the elders at the time. The father of the victim told the elders of Shady Grove Church, that if Morris did not step out, he,( the victim's father) would get the police involved. Then Morris stepped out and did his two year "recovery". So how can any of these elder boards claim they were unaware of the victim 's age?
Thank you for your video and time to my long question. I hope it is clear.
the elders of the church, that gave me a tremendous foundation in my walk in faith that I still apply those principles to this day. It’s saddens me to see the downfall in leadership.
Maybe we can learn something from the Old Testament of the Tabernacle, the wash basin, since the lever was for the cleansing of the priest. Every time he became defile, the repeating use of the lever became necessary. God has commanded that every time the priest approached the altar of the tabernacle he must stop and wash at the brazan lever before ever approaching the Holy of Hollies, His presence.
Elders come and go...
Different church, different elders? 🤔
It's all about the money.
He should have gotten the police involved anyway, whether he stepped down or not.
Why would we ever let a SA Abuser back into a huge leadership role? He shouldn't be going back into ministry at all.
As Trevin Wax said in his excellent podcast, “Reconstructing Faith,” we need to remove the rot. There is an enormous amount of rot in too many religious systems.
My take is he never would have left the church the first time if Cindy’s dad had not said if he didn’t step away from preaching he would go to the Sherrif .
Heartbreaking! The more details I learn about this story, the more repulsed I am. "Triggered" isn't a strong enough word.
Sometimes I wonder if there are enough Mill Stones!
Robert is right around the corner from Kenneth Copeland, TD Jakes, Ed Young, Tony Evans, Jack Graham, Robert Jeffress, Michael Todd... Dallas Theological Seminary really knows how to crank out the worst pastors on the planet... No one on staff would dare to confront one of these puffed up pastors.
I remember the very first time I ever went to Gateway Church, through an invitation by a friend back in 2002. They played music for well over an hour, so this is before Kari Jobe became popular. Then they did a ton of announcements for probably at least 45 minutes and then Finally Robert gets up on stage to speaks for about 22 minutes, bec that how long his TV show airs!
I went to their Freedom Ministry each week when Bob Hamp lead it; covering a differnt Deliverance topic which were great, but then I heard that FM was never the same after Bob left. We literally just sit there for about 1.5 or maybe 2 hours and Listen to someone teach...so I don't see how that could be effective for a pedo.
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I was sexually violated and horribly drugged and torchered by a child psychiatrist when I was twelve. No lawyer ever cared to even hear me out. What he did to me he probably did to dozens. He's still working with kids.
Take it public...you have a duty!
Thank you for taking a stand about this. This is an opportunity to stop this from happening again
This is a flat out Lie! They knew before all of this came out. She went to the elders of Gateway in 2005. Yall think she forgot to mention the fact that she was a child?
To think that nobody on the board knew she was 12 at the time seems HIGHLY unlikely.
This gives me hope in men, I have seen so many men justifying and dismissing him being a pedophile. Finally I see true Christian men not afraid to call Robert Morris a pedophile. Sooo many comments trying to make it seem like everyone being a sinner makes Roberts sin less diabolical.
Yeah, the response from the pews is both disgusting & discouraging. Unfortunately I think God is showing us that there is sin in the camp and MANY people in the pews are enabling this behavior bc they are hiding their own secrets.
@@misswinnie4.8 Itching ears wanting to be comforted in their own sins. Plus, Americans will overlook a lot if a lot of money is at stake. The love of money......
People defending him is disturbing. Putting children in harms way is horrible. This has made me physically ill. I’m committed to helping protect kids from SA in churches, schools , anywhere. I pray churches will be proactive in prevention.
Those who are defending this man don’t know or understand how much hurt and damage comes from SA.
It always angers me when people rather defend the perpetrator rather than the victim especially from those Christian who are suppose to uphold truth and justice
If she had notified Gateway Church, then surely she told him that she was 12. And for them to deny that she was 12 was a lie in their first statement.
no apologies or repentance. his wife, james robinson , olen griffing had knowledge, they counselled him. he raped that child call it like it is. debbie called cindy and put blame on her, i forgive you statement. lord help us all!!
Excellent!!for the elders to say they did not have details is a lie.
Well stated Thank you!
Thank You Ruslan for your wisdom!! If only these leaders would lead with the same guidance the Bible gives the rest of us ! Thank You for your voice!
I used to listen to his sermons regularly many years ago. This is so wild.
It's sad, knowing that he lied about this encounter this whole time.
@@LoveHisappearing Lol! I used to listen to Mike Bickle too. Now, I listen to no one.
The victim advised during an interview that she did contact the elders/leadership at Gateway Church and told them about the abuse. That tells me that they did know or at the very least some of them knew. They are playing cover up. The leaders and elders should resign also.
Agreed, they knew for sure since 2005. And Shady Grove church became a Gateway satellite church many years ago.
Protect children from pastors.
I was SA by a neighbor at age nine and I'm almost 70 and still struggling. I have zero sympathy for him.
This is only the beginning of God moving and putting a plumbline in.. Jesus grant us endurance and lead us to pray for Robert in Jesus name amen
As someone who is a member at The Austin Stone in ATX where we recently had a senior leader removed for a very similar issue I'm disgusted that how Gateway church handled this situation.
The day that the elders at The Austin Stone found out about abuse they dug into it and removed the leader at fault THE NEXT MORNING! Only a week later they had informed the members of every congregation and submitted a formal statement to the public along with informing the authorities. The leaders at The Austin Stone constantly talk about how their responsibility is to protect their flock.
So sad indeed he didn't go to jail 35 years ago.
I agree 🙏
If he did maybe God wouldn't have been able to use him the way he has. Who knows.
He should have been prosecuted when abuse was discovered.
I agree that there is consequences for sin, forgiven sin as well. This is what is lacking for sure in these situations. Restoration is needed but in this case, never should be reconciled to a high position in any church.
My family are some of the people using those defenses, it’s gross
Defending is wrong wrong wrong he needs to finally own up and face consequences have charges pressed against him if legally possible.. as believers let’s watch our level of judging .. i already been bashed for this on other channels so if you disagree please be respectful
@@SGED392 No I completely agree, he should be in jail, and I hope he repents and God grants him mercy
Also, not to mention.... Paul was not a Leader, Elder, Apostle or ANYTHING - NOT EVEN A BELIEVER IN JESUS when he was committing his atrocities against the Church..... It is silliness that Paul would even have come into the equation... especially considering he himself was the one to give the Commands of the Lord about Elders in the Church... People are trying to defend their own lives, thats all. They got hidden or even open sins that they are not surrendering and want to feel safe or something. The man is disqualified from Ministry, not the Kingdom. He can still make it unto the Salvation, but he is not fit and unqualified to be a Leader in the Church.
Having an affair with a person of his age group is totally different from having S with a minor.. if he was not a "pastor" he would be in prison.. shame on him..
I feel really sorry for all my friends that go to Gateway and used to look up to him.
So glad someone (you) said it! He lied!!! (“young lady”) from the beginning and thought he got away with it. And… what evil it was to just keep going and be a fake pastor all these years! Huge EGO, not repentance or care for God’s people. Sickening.
And get extremely rich the whole time, even refusing to pay for her counseling bills as he racks up millions for himself. It's stomach-turning.
@@juliannebrancadora3476 A wolf fleecing willing sheep.
Respect for Ruslan speaking truth, and facts
Paul repented of his old ways and then was used by God and had an impeccable testimony holding himself in a HIGH standard. David repented for weeks AND fasted and had to pick his own punishment plus had family issues and a curse from his sin hanging over family his life. There was a deep scar because of David’s sin. . And he wasn’t even a pastor. Morris never repented to ANY level David did and Paul would have told Morris’s church to boot him.
I strongly believe that (mega church powers that be), are more interested in keeping the big money making machine going whatever the cost. Sad.
I’m in the DFW area and am so very disappointed! He should have never continued in the ministry & it REALLY worries me how many people left the faith over this!
I'm more worried about the people who aren't troubled by this...
Hurting one of God’s innocence has a higher consequence
Olen Griffing is an elder at Gateway and was also the senior pastor (shady grove church) that pulled Robert Morris out of ministry when this was originally brought to light. Olen was the pastor who met with the father about this whole situation. In other words, at least some of the elders knew about this.
In 1989, my 8 year old daughter was molested at church two separate times by a visitor. After the second time, she told us and we went to the police. The man was arrested and spent four years in prison before being deported. This experience pretty much destroyed my daughter's life, and she was in and out of psychiatric institutions until she passed away in 2022. Those church elders may think that Morris' "restoration" took only 2 years, but this will affect his victim for the rest of her life. The fact that this was never reported to the police makes me absolutely sick. There should not be any statute of limitations for a crime like this.
I’m sorry for your loss, brother
Once a thing comes to light. Some things disqualify people forever from resuming that position in ministry. It simply should not be excused. Can they be forgiven. Absolutely. If they repent. But if it's hidden by that person or the elders they all need to go until it is dealt with. God departs when sin is in the camp. This is why many walkaway from church.
Yes ,very ,very sorry. God bless.
Yes. The parents shouldve filed a police report. She was only 12.
I'm so sorry your daughter went through this and I'm sorry for your loss.
There’s a chasm between adultry and being an actual child molester leading families and children. I wonder if the people comparing him to Saul would let him babysit 🤷🏻♀️
Agree with your point but I also ain’t letting Paul before his transformation watch my kid.
@@KEEPFIELDS The difference is Paul humbled himself. A cover up to avoid consequences is not humbling yourself. Turning himself in would have meant he repented. Trying to say she seduced him is classic manipulative behavior from a p.e.d.o.
💯 spot on.
Amen
I agree. I have heard a number of people say all sin is equal, and that is total nonsense. If it were all equal, there wouldn't have been varying degrees of punishment for them in the Old Testament, and Jesus himself said the Father's name could be taken in a vain and his name could be taken in vain and be forgiven, but if one took the Holy Spirit's name in vain, they would never be forgiven.
I watched your video yesterday on this and you made a few comments that I would like to ask you about.
Robert Morris needs to go to jail. I dont care how long ago this was.
Kind of convenient he was 62 when these details came out, ripe for retirement age. Praise God for this coming to the light and may robert morris find mercy and not wrath. But God will not be mocked and a man reaps what he sows. The man who sows according to his flesh will reap destruction.
There are elders still there who met with the father and they knew.
A " Lady" is an adult.
A young child is a 12 year old
Too bad it's past the texas statute of limitations. For SA against a minor, it's 20 years from the 18th bday. He should go to prison. This is very sad.
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I wonder if more will come out, if this was a pattern for him.
prison. That girl's father failed here in the worst way. He should have called the police on Morris. I realize that back then in the 80's , victims were not believed. I hope that Cindy sues Robison, and Gateway Church and bankrupts them. This is why I find tithing so abhorrent bc you never know what evil sin these elevated Pastors who think they are gods get away w this garbage.
My daughter is about to be 12 - thank you for not getting into the details as other channels have....you're right - these kids are still innocent and it sickens me that someone would take advantage of them so horribly :( praying for all involved...so sad
Look at Joyce Meyers she never even reported her father. He should have been in prison for molestation. I just don’t get how a pastor can do this and think he’ll get away with it? They always get caught eventually because most of the time as an adult you do let it out.
These pastors out here actually disgust me 🤢. God help us
Sometimes I wonder if there are enough Mill Stones!
Robert is right around the corner from Kenneth Copeland, TD Jakes, Ed Young, Tony Evans, Jack Graham, Robert Jeffress, Michael Todd... Dallas Theological Seminary really knows how to crank out the worst pastors on the planet... No one on staff would dare to confront one of these puffed up pastors.
I remember the very first time I ever went to Gateway Church, through an invitation by a friend back in 2002. They played music for well over an hour, so this is before Kari Jobe became popular. Then they did a ton of announcements for probably at least 45 minutes and then Finally Robert gets up on stage to speaks for about 22 minutes, bec that how long his TV show airs!
I went to their Freedom Ministry each week when Bob Hamp lead it; covering a differnt Deliverance topic which were great, but then I heard that FM was never the same after Bob left. We literally just sit there for about 1.5 or maybe 2 hours and Listen to someone teach...so I don't see how that could be effective for a pedo.
~ I was kidnapped for sx traffic king for 14 months, so I had 4 multiple personality disorder from the age of 6-50. 7 years ago at age 50 I was going to drive head on with an 18 wheeler, because doctors, medication, counseling, 12 step groups, accountability partners and especially the church couldn't help me.
Then I found out that it only takes 1 DAY to Listen to the New Testament Bible! 🎉
The TRUTH Completely Healed my mind, body, soul and spirit in 1 Day!
In 6.5 years I have Never again struggled with: anger, guilt, shame, lustful thoughts, loneliness, alcohol, drugs, insecurities, fear, depression, alcohol, unforgiveness, bad language, jealousy, worry, doubt, lying, complaining, pride, self-pity, suicidal thoughts-attempts, unforgiveness, etc...
I've read my Bible cover to cover every month for over 6 years. An Audio Bible is only 72 Hrs ÷ 30 Days = 2.4hrs a day! YHWY would much rather have 10% of our day, than 10% of our money.
So instead of wasting most of our time watching TV, Netflix, FB, YT, TikTok, Sports, Working out, Dating, Working O.T., Traveling, Sleeping in, etc...
We are clearly without excuse, when all we have to do is "Push Play", while we are getting ready, driving, cooking, eating, cleaning, exercising, walking the dog, soaking in the tub...
Because the time is short, nobody wants to find out that they are one of the foolish virgins, saying Lord, Lord, didn't I ___,__,__?
So I'd suggest take a week off work, and listen to the whole Bible in just 1 week:
N Matt - Acts
M Psm - Ecc
T Josh - 2 King
W Gal - Rev
H Minors, Est - 2Chr
F Isa -Dan
S Gen - Deu
You can do that in the same amount of time it takes you to get ready for & driving back and forth to church. That's why I'll never attend another church. Matt 18;20 For where 2 or 3 gather in My name, there am I with them.
I agree 🙏
If god cared to help, he would’ve saved the girl
@@Itoshimi So where exactly do you get these set of moral expectations to judge God, whom you don't believe in?
@@TyVodd you don’t need a Flying Spaghetti Monster to tell right from wrong.
God does have grace over us and forgives us but there will always be consequences due to our sin. Churches need to stop covering up sin from their pastors and take action immediately because it’s the right thing to do any situation. Imagine a school system covering this up? They would never. As a church we need to set the example.
This is really interesting.
it has been common practice since the late 1970's early 1980's for the Church to keep up image of the Church at all costs. Size does not matter.
Does anyone else find the timing odd here? Shortly after being pictured with Trump, a case from decades ago comes suddenly to the forefront? Only one side offering a version of events which is different from decades ago. He admitted to affairs but not to her being a minor now suddenly she comes forward with new information. Hmm. We can’t just believe one side without more information. Not saying He shouldn’t have resigned but the timing seems suspect.
I find it odd…..election year.
I also wonder if he was an associate pastor of a church of 200 and was unknown if this happens at this time. Of course what he did was egregious but after 40 years ?
She’s 54 he’s 62 or 63. But 20 or 21 and 12 is not right. He simply shouldn’t have been back in the pulpit but gateway started in 2000. Almost 25 years and now and they’re trying to make a Trump connection like Trump knew about 1982,in Robert Morris’ life totally ridiculous.
Question: David's life was used as an example of the consequences of David's Sin, who was the author of these consequences?
This is what happens when Pastors are looking for FOLLOWERS and not investing in discipleship.
How do you feel about how the church handled in house? Should he not have been in PRISON before they even considered letting him pastor again?
Good, he needs to step down. Enough! Stop caressing sin
If she presses charges or even if she doesn’t the State can pick this up and indict him. And they still may! I just wonder why she waited this long?
She didn’t. She tried to get help multiple times and everyone dismissed her.
The church hired a law firm, not to look into the allegations (that's for law enforcement), but to find out if the church and its elders can be held liable. They are covering their backside. Shady. I live in DFW and know some of the people that go to one of the campuses in DFW (there's 9). Let's just say, I don't feel that it's growing my walk with Jesus by hanging out with them.
Just wanna remind everyone because we always hear of the pastors who did bad but rarely hear that for every pastor that did bad, there’s far more that haven’t done disqualifying things. There’s many great pastors out there. Don’t let this put a bad taste in you for pastors that’s what worldly news media does
Pure 😈 evil, why hasn't he gone to prison yet?
The term 'goobers' is great
Wonder if his wife knew who this "young lady" was all these years.
According to Cindy (the child), Debbie (the wife) called her all those years ago & told her, "I forgive you." As if it was the child's fault. She knew.
Apparently he was planning on retiring before this whole thing went down. It was a decision that he already made.
Doesn't take away from how bad the situation was or how his pastoral legacy was affected though.
why did they not ask age of girl.
many of them had a duty to report it to dfcs. sick of hearing abt these men /pastors molesting, infidelity and abusing wives...
That the Gateway elders claim they were in the dark about Morris molesting a child for 4 1/2 years, is total BS! After Shady Grove suspended him as a pastor for 2 years beginning in 1987, the Gateway elders needed only to ask a couple of clarifying questions to understand what happened 35 years ago! They knew. They are just positioning themselves for any future lawsuit. Either that or they were COLOSSALLy stupid or irresponsible to the max. In either case, they should all step down.
Always, always, always it’s the pastors.
Arrest him
My bible says. As far as the east is from the west. So are our sins removed from us.
My Bible says, God judges those outside. Purge the evil person from among you.
1 Corinthians 5:13
I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring YOU OUGHT to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Paul the apostle to the church leaders, Acts 20:33ff.
This man should have been arrested.
I bet more women will speak out! I hope so! 😢
Luke 17:2
When we lived in DFW for a few years, I went to this mega-church a few times. It was eye opening! The congregation raised their hands in the air, Stepford Wives smiles plastered on their faces, clapping when he said something they liked, treating him like a pop-star prophet. They had outgrown their capacity, so had leased 3 or 4 huge industrial spaces, converted them into satellites. Each had their own "worship team," then this man was livestreamedl onto a large theater-like screen! So fake! So pompous! I get why on some churches' websites they have online giving or tithing. This church went beyond that. At every entrance were ATM-looking machines, except only for taking money, no cash back lol. That was 10 years ago. I'm not suprised he "stepped down" rather than be terminated. A long time ago, he started this church in his house. I would not be suprised if he continues to financially benefit from this establishment. It is modern-day version of the temple full of money-makers that Jesus decried, flipping over the tables!
💡My suggestion to all Christians: Ask God to show you yourself and your heart. Allow God to work on you. Take your feelings, thoughts, words, and actions to God in prayer. Sift and process them through the Word of God. Let God Have The Final Say!
🙏 Pray Focus: God, I ask You in Jesus' name to show me myself. God I give You permission to work on me. Sift me through Your Word, change me, prefect me, and conform me into the image of Your son, Jesus Christ. God do the same for the writer of this prayer, all my family, and friends. Bless us with the love, desire, and strength to respect and honor You in our thoughts, words, and actions. Thank You Jesus. Amen, so be it by faith.
He is 63 now and this happened when?
This guy sounds so holy! He sounds there is no forgiveness and restoration with God.
What??? A pastor doing awful stuff? I am flabbergasted.
Should be in prison