Royal Enfield FINALLY Beat Triumph
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I would recommend a RE to anyone looking for their first bike. REs are designed for the owner to perform nearly all of the preventative maintenance. Oil change? Read the manual. Bleed the brakes? Read the manual. Adjust the chain? Read the manual. Adjust the valves? Read the manual. Plus, RE sells all of the tools one needs to maintain the bike.
Classic Indian Engineering today.
@@SattickDas2001 i mean the bike was designed in england so maybe not 100% indian stuff, and i dont know if i am right but that location is very very close to triumph.
@@crocketgsxr6 completely agreed. Unless it involves too much electronics
@@navnoorsingh7969 Not only is RE's UK R&D centre at Bruntingthorpe close to Triumph's Hinkley HQ, it's also close to RE's old UK home in Redditch… and all three are in Leicestershire.- For the Americans, that's pronounced 'leice' (less)… 'ster'… 'shire' (sheer)… Now that wasn't too hard, was it?😀
Problem is the forums are full of questions like these:
"Bike won't start! What do?"
"What's the maintenance interval?"
Many people don't read anything, they ask people on Facebook that don't read manuals what to do.
Remarkably good bike. Really better than it ought to be. Most reliable bike we had till my wife got hit by a wrong way driver. (She’s ok the bike is totaled) I’d buy another Royal Enfield in a heart beat.
Peoples inability to do something as basic as drive a car makes me so fucking mad
@@Ives1776 I got hit by a car 2 months ago at the lights. Spent 5 weeks in agony.
@@Ives1776 you gotta keep in mind the car person is in a box with limited visibility and awareness. we feel a fly buzzing across when on a motorcycle. a bug can go flat on a car wind shield and you wont know a thing till you stop and see the smudge. level of awarness matters
@@aryanbairagi4925 if you don't have that awareness why risk others life
@@thegameaddict7478 well you can’t stop like 90% of population from driving
Points to RE for being truly old school with DIY adjustable valves and tappets. My Triumph’s valves need a $500 valve adjustment every 12K miles. Every RE motorcycle owner can adjust their valves using a $10 tool kit and the manual.
Totally agree most folks dont think about maintenance cost example Ducaties even cheapest ones require expensive valve adjustment and after 30k miles you could of bought another bike with that cost. Yes to DIY mechanics
what triumph do you own? My street Twin doesn't have a complicated valve adjustment, although it uses shims, you just need to remove the rocker's arms, remove the shim, put a new one, and the job is done. the Con is that once you know what shim you need you have to order and wait.
@@ripmax333 Full standard shim kit is like $35 and you should be set for shims for a long time. I plan to just order one before tearing into my bike in a month or two for its first adjustment.
@@ripmax333 so do you think Street Twin isn't any harder for maintenance compared to the RE ?
@@aneeshprasobhan the RE it is more easier to make a valve adjustment for example, but the street Twin is not difficult to maintain, if you are mechanically inclined you won’t find any problems.
I’ve just changed my rear brake pads and done an oil and filter change, it was a breeze to do them.
I have the hanyes manual and I checked just for curiosity how to make the valve adjustment, there really nothing complicated. The adjustment according to the manual is every 20,000 miles which is not bad at all.
But as I told you, if are mechanically inclined simple jobs like these won’t put you off.
I'm a proud owner of the meteor 350 here in Brazil, a reasonable price for a reasonable bike, loving it!
Boooaaa meu caro
Another brazilian Meteor owner here, my first bike at 52 years old. I'm loving it.
The meteor seems to popular in Brazil huh.
@@bulthaosen1169 its the only one in the niche of smaller cruisers. Above it theres only the Kawa Vulcan S and then the Harleys and Triumphs. Put its quality, smoothness (lots of people getting it as their first bike. Before that beginner bike here meant a japanese 125-250) and reasonable price together, and the result is months of waiting time to get one. They are building their first plant outside of India here because of that.
Are bikes like bajaj dominar and tvs 310 r are also available in the Brazilian market ?
If you feel the RE is a copycat of triumph just based on the looks then there are many brands that look similar but the aren't really the same thing. While reviewing the RE one should take into consideration that the target audience that it has and the avg cost of bikes in the region, besides when the British left india 1947, we were not in a state of supporting our economy let alone a motorcycle company. And RE Survived that era! Also look at their current models, the classic sound of RE, look at the experience it brings for the people of India predominantly! And when you consider that, you realise that RE is not just another motorcycle company here in India, It is an experience which has specifically been denoted towards Indian and that is something that is reflected in the sales when compared to other brands. And "cheap knockoff" is not the term that one should use when they themselves are guilty of a Harley culture. Btw it's just an opinion from my end I don't mean to offend anyone and pls don't call it knockoff my dude. Beside I admire your channel and I am planning to keep it that way! 😂
It's just a bristosh company currently being made and sold out of India its not a Indian brand but a British brand
It hasn’t been a British brand for 60 years. The British company shut shop then. The current bikes are made by an Indian company that is selling the idea that there is British history because it’s good marketing. Also they own a British design company that’s about it. Made in India, not for cost saving, but made in India period. It’s an Indian brand Joe. Sorry. This round goes to the Colonised. 😎
@@joebone3151 Its actually a fully Indian owned company and brand, it has been an Indian owned company for more than 50 years. The new line up and designs are all thanks to the Indian owner and CEO Siddharta Lal. Royal died out in Britain in the 60's. Indians gave it life. In India, Royal enfield has a status that Harley Davidson has in the USA.
@@rembrantwithagrenade171 well then wouldn't honda be a Brazilian brand since all their bikes are made their. Jk I already knew that its a Brindian brand.
@@joebone3151 But Honda isnt owned by Brazillians though. Difference here is that RE is 100% Indian owned since 1970.
I've owned three Triumphs...I now own a Royal Enfield. There is a reason for that beyond just the price.
Im sorry to hear that.
@@ThaBootyBandit Don't be, I'm not! It's the best of them all.
@@Stevel_ what is the reason
@@shashankmallamraju4271 More of a classic look that is true to the machines of the late 60's, the Triumphs have become too modern looking. Better value overall, Triumph are twice as expensive but are also made in Asia (Thailand specifically). Better fueling, generally less problems in the first two years of ownership. And a dozen other little reasons that i can't even think of right now. It's the perfect timeless bike, they will look just as good and people will still be riding them 50 years from now.
@@Stevel_ Gearbox issues?
1959 was a great year for making things; Les Paul guitars, Triumph Bonneville, me.
A classic rocker, I see...
I would have put the Enfield against a fuel injected Triumph, which came a few years after that model you guys rented. A ten year old T100 against a brand new Royal Enfield INT650 seems like a better match up. (But I get you have to use what's available at the time your'e making the video.)
Also, when you buy new you have to tack on dealer fees and extra stuff, which is always more than you think it's going to be. Often a 1000 dollars or more. So for $7500 (the out the door price of the chrome INT650) you can find a low mileage used 2018/19 Bonneville. Can't go wrong with either of those choices. Both great bikes. I do love the look of that chrome and red Enflied.
That's exactly what my buddy and I did. I have a 2015 Bonneville SE, he has a 2021 RE Continental GT 650. Mine was $6k with 14,000 miles, his brand new. He loves his bike, but said if he were to do it again he'd look for a used Bonnie.
A friend of mine sent their 2009 FI 650 Bonnie to the scrapper last year. It had a shit-ton of mileage on it and the cases were leaking. The local Triumph guys wouldn’t touch it. They said it was done. I would have liked to have had a chance to see if I could have rebuilt it but they scrapped it and bought an SV650.
I was thinking the same thing, also I bought a fuel injected 10 years old Bonneville SE with 5k miles for $3000.
So the question isn't is the RE half the bike the Bonneville is, it's more like, is a used Bonneville half the bike the RE is... I think it's much more bike than the RE at half the cost. Not sure why they can't find used Bonnevilles at normal prices over there :/
I paid 7k otd for my '22 RE GT650. At that price point an equivalent bonneville would have been a few years used, but more importantly the styling on the GT (which is much more similar to the Thruxton, which are more expensive used) sold me. No regrets at all, excellent bike.
The Interceptor originated in the 1960’s.The modern bike is based on that.Production of the Inteerceptor ended in 1970.
I thought they were saying the original Interceptor was a knockoffof the Triumph Bonneville back then and that it still is, cosmetically at least
@@keithengle592 And the Roman quinquereme was a knockoff off a Carthaginian shipwreck... sorry I thought we were discussing ancient history
Just the name, nothing else at all
Kabir Almighty God Creator of All Souls
It actually looks like every bike in the 60s...only today only triumph and interceptor remain so they think it is a copy
My local Harley dealer just became a Royal Enfield dealer and I am very excited. The bikes they had in stock, everything except for the Himalayan, were all beautiful. They had a chrome tanked Interceptor too. The thing is awesome looking.
Where is this, what city, what dealership, kindly?
3:35 the car 🚗 in the background going backwards made me laugh more then it should have.
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😅😂
😂😂😂
As someone who rode both a 2018 Street Twin and the RE Inteceptor, the Triumph is clearly a premium version with butter smooth gear and power enough to get a speed ticket on a Texas Highway, while the RE was much more like my everyday baby with nothing you will never use out of the ordinary. It's a case of what you need vs. all the fancy stuff you think you want.
You’re right about Texas roads. I ride a street twin and sometimes I go 90 for my own safety which doesn’t make sense until you drive here haha.
they could compare a new RE 650 with a new T120.
twice the price, twice the grin factor, twice the speed tickets
in a few seconds 100 mph / 160 km/h
I bought a 2011 SpeedMaster as my first bike a few months ago. 41k miles for $3200. I conciderd a new Enfield Interceptor, which is a nice bike, but I'm very glad I went with Triumph even though it's older and used and a little banged up.
PS where I live Bonnies get listed for sale and are sold by the time u call
I have both bikes, the Bonnie is a 2018 t100. Love them both! Both have been 100% reliable, and both do 70-80mpg. The Enfield is great for low speed bimbling around the country roads of Norfolk and Suffolk. The Bonnie will do that plus a 3000 mile Scottish tour. My keeper is the Bonnie, it’s more a do it all bike. Plus it’s made by a small privately owned British company that are shooting way above their pay grade, I like that!
yammie, do a classic 350 review. you will love it.
I've had a Bullet 500 for over 20 years and have had some problems with it but it's so easy to work on it's not really been too bad. I am going to pull the head soon and have some better valve seats and thread inserts put in but other than that it's been a decent bike. If I bought a new bike I would probably get the Interceptor 650 in chrome/red to match the 500.
I rode a 2004 Triumph Bonneville T100 over 100,000 miles between 2008 and 2012. Apart from general maintenance , the only problem I had was that the CDC failed at about 95,000. It never ever had a "wobbly weird front end" so there must be something wrong with yours, maybe you should get it checked out.
Maybe I got this wrong but it sounded like you rode a 15 year old bike and compared to a new bike and then took the price of a new T100 and compared that to the new Royal Enfield price. Then some how tied the new price of the T100 to the 15 year old T100 ride and arrived at your conclusion, is that correct?
That’s what I understood as well. I have a new 2022 T120 in my garage and I’m pretty sure it’s the superior machine. Not to say the RE doesn’t look nice. It sounds like RE has grown a lot, but not enough to compare a new RE to a 15 year old T100 and say the comparison is fair.
I had one of the last air cooled triumphs, a 2014 T100 in gold and white. It was in much better shape than the bike they used in this video, and I picked it up for just 5k. For my first bike I still think it was the right choice over the interceptor, makes more power, cheaper, more authentically “retro” I now have a 2022 thruxton RS and let me tell you that bike blows any other retro twin out of the water. It’s amazing
@@wetzel1628 I sat on a Thruxton and knew it would kill me lol. I almost bought a Street Twin but didn’t like the aggressive controls. I can only imagine blasting down the freeway in a Thruxton with a massive grin on my face!
$$ the second hand Triumph is same price as new RE
@@kell7195 Nah I don't think so a 2007 T100 is about $2800, maybe $3000 retail. In 2007 the T100 as about $8300 where I lived. So maybe ta better question is a $6700 Royal Enfield 650 that much better or worth more than a 15 year old $2800 T100?
That triumph has nearly 33k on the clock. For the price of a new interceptor you could get a Bonnie with about 4k on the clock and fuel injected.
But it ain’t new right?
Yeah got the same feeling! Furthemore, RE prices in Europe (where i live) have increased a lot. New interceptors in their new color schemes are about 7000-7600 euros. For that price you can find a bonnie or a Street Twin with very few kilometers or even for less than that any Moto guzzi v7 III.
@@shashankmallamraju4271 My point is that the Triumph used in the comparison is worth about 1/2 the value of the enfield. For a fair comparison they should be using a Triumph worth about £6000. In that case the Triumph would be way better than the interceptor in almost every category. All that aside, I'll probably still be buying a Royal Enfield soon lol
@@Adam_Adam_Adam_Adam i'm thinking about the same.. i currently own a svartpilen 401 wich is a fun ride but think something more relaxed would suit me more.
Most people just want a cool looking bike that's reliable, safe, and confident on the road. Low price is just an added bonus. The RE's nail it.
Hmmmm you should have compared the new Bonny vs Enfield. True way more expensive but not carbed anymore. Otherwise loved the video...good work!
Yeah, there's no way it's more reliable in the long run.
The RE doesn't have a carb, it's fake for the look, its fuel injected.
How would that be relevant? Where I'm from we buy motorcycles with money. The only comparisons that matter are of similarly priced bikes.
It wouldn´t make sense as they are comparing bikes with the same price.
Even a ten year old Bonneville isn't carbureted anymore... For some reason they went with a 15 year old one.
Hi
And once again its so good to hear young people enthusing about Enfields and triumphs as opposed to sports bikes and couldn't agree more I had Bonnie's back in the 70s and 80s had freinds with harley sportsters and yes not much to choose from they ride about the same with a trustworthy loose and lazy feel
Keep up the good work
I own the classic 350 halcyon gray , this bike is so much fun and gets tons of compliments .
If I were going to drop $11,000 on a new motorcycle I wouldn’t even consider a Bonneville, or any other retro bike. For that kind of money you can buy a high-performance motorcycle like an MT-09 SP. The Intercepter is a great beginner bike and a great bike for those of us who love retro bikes. It’s also cheap and does what it’s designed to do exceptionally well.
Someone looking for high performance shouldn't be looking at any Triumph twins in the first place. At least buy a triple.
Similarly, the average Triumph shopper would scoff at the idea of even considering a Yamaha.
@@LinhNguyen-im4uu
What Triumph fanboys do isn’t the issue here. The speed triple is a great motorcycle but considerably more expensive than the Yamaha. I was offering an example of a superior motorcycle that can be had for the price of a Bonneville.
@@blazesboylan7947 “ superior” is an opinion. Faster does not make it better. MT 09 is nothing but a wheelie machine and a butt ugly one at that. Too each their own but for me, I wouldn’t keep an MT if you gave it to me
Why would you want such an ugly motorcycle? Strange.
I really liked this comparison with associated history, the balance of research and opinion was sublime. :) A couple of things which I hope you find interesting, the overall styling (including chromed tank) and engine for the 1960's RE Interceptor, which is itself a performance modified Constellation, is shared amoungst at least the 1952 Super Meteor (692 cc), the 1957 Constellation (692 cc w/new castings and heads), and 1960-71 Interceptor (Series 1 692 cc, lightened flywheel, race ignition, balanced crank, 51 HP) (Series II 736 cc, dynamically balanced, 60 HP.) I wish I could post some pictures, they look so similar. If there was copying between Triumph and Royal Enfield, I suspect it was both ways as they were direct competitors and likely competed with inovative ideas and for the same talent pool. :) They were racing against each other for real, and who likes to lose?
A carb is an asset in my book but the fact that the RE is a brand new bike with a warranty and otherwise highly maintainable I can't see opting for the Bonnie.
Put proper end to end pipes on the Enfield and you have a great look and sound 👍🇬🇧
Imagine going back to 1950 and showing people something like the Superduke...
We’ve fairly recently got a dealer here but I have yet to see any model of Royal Enfield yet. Pandemic supply chain nonsense I guess. Looking forward to seeing one someday…along with fully supplied dealer showrooms!
Honestly, no one should ever be doubtful about the reliability of the Royal Enfields. These bikes are exposed to so much roughness, they go through all the trials and tribulations of the Indian roads and still perform like they were purchased yesterday. Also, the service is cheap, spare parts are cheap and that chrome tank is a sight for the eye. Absolutely nothing to go wrong! The 650 twins have to be the best Royal Enfields after the Bullet. It's a shame that not many people have got their hands on to the Bullet 500. These bikes have so much character. So much old school charm. Somehow, it feels like the Interceptor has much greater charm than the Bonnie...NO OFFENCE but the Bonnie doesn't quite look the part.
Also, did you know, The official RE channel on RUclips has all sorts of DIY maintenance videos so that owners can do their own maintenance. Smooth!!
RE owners know and get it... the RE RUclips channel is a great benefit of ownership as you noted... I use their tutorial videos for most of the maintenance on my Interceptor and Classic 350. Also, RE builds bikes so smartly and easy to work on. Every detail is considered as they know RE owners are most likely going to do all basic, routine service instead of taking to the dealer.
They may look similar but riding them back to back is chalk and cheese, rake, trail wheel-base all very different. Then you have two engines with different firing cranks, suspension granted is not fair given the Triumph could do with a freshen up but 650 v 865cc does present more get up and go with the Triumph... I'd say the Triumph is just cooler and ergonomically and aesthetically a much nicer thing to own and ride... And who couldn't love that "McQueen ' Triumph soul. The black one featured here is downright cool. Warts and all.
I owned a 07 speed triple. 2000s wasn't a good time for triumph reliability. 2010s and beyond the reliability did improve across the line for the most part.
My wife and I have a Sportster and an Interceptor. They are both injected, but otherwise old school basic. I do admire the real old bikes and cars, but the ethanol fuel that is mandatory where I live has me doing carb swaps on all my small engines. The first start of spring on the bikes is blessed relief.
Actually, RE copied their own homework. Check out a ‘60s Interceptor.
But in a affordable way 🤷🏻
KTM is not a German brand... They are from Austria
almost German
@@mrwhips3623 well they’re Indian now
@@ChakraVart1not entirely
Bajaj holds 49 percent stake and ktm still retains 51 percent.
So ktm is partly Indian and Austrian
Great review guys!! Now I want an RE
I want to see Papa Yam convert the Int650 into a scrambler... I suspect you guys would make it awesome!
The dealership in New Orleans was modding one for flat track racing when I was shopping around a few months ago.
I’m doing this to mine. I already have the tires. Just need to lift it and put on that badass Zard exhaust.
I've known for a while that Royal Enfield makes a good bike. My younger brother has owned a 500 single over in the Philippines for quite some time and belongs to a large Royal Enfield club. If I remember right I think he even was part of the group that started it.
You are right Tim , I am a founding member of the Reapers. They are a great bunch of people . Had many a good rides with them and made some great friends . The RE has been a good bike for my riding style . They have a charm that grows on you the more you ride them and even now after 8 years still puts a smile on my face .
@@tomluther2018 Hard to believe it's already 8 years you've owned that bike. :)
Recently bought one here in the Philippines, one thing great about RE is that its community is awesome and very welcoming.
Service the forks on the bonnie and it will feel better. Plus RE needs servicing every 6000 miles, that seems a bit frequent
Still RE hired the very same Engineers who built that aircooled Bonnevilles, therefore no big surprises. Also if you build that S&S Bigbore Kit you will indeed see the Improvements learned on the Binneville.
They 650 looks absolutely gorgeous
I believe you need to compare new to new. Bonnevilles have been coming with fuel injection for like a decade now.
R.E. does sell decent bikes at a good price. I own one, and I have also owned several Bloor Bonnevilles. If I were buying a USED bike, I'd go with Bonneville every time. I bought my RE for the bargain basement price, the 3 year warranty and roadside assistance. I don't want to own a RE without a warranty, lol.
Re-clean and tube shrink the relays behind the left panel. A few replace them for more weatherproof types.
but all 600cc bikes are half the price of 900cc bikes. thats not a real argument
Yes, a better comparision would have been the Triumph Street Twin. Much closer in terms of performance(there is also a restricted A2 variant with 48 HP) and market position. For a beginner rider in Europe this would also be the more realistic alternatives a 48 HP Street Twin as a used bike or a brand new Royal Enfield.
Wait and ride it for a few months and soon you'll start facing issues like fuel pump failure, RR unit failure, wobbling issue, rusting, tail section frame crack, and god knows what.
3 years and none of the problems you mentioned, the odd bit of maintenance and a clean goes a long way.
I like carbs. Modern bikes are a pain in the ass. When you get them, they run super lean and too quiet. It's expensive. To richen them up after you put some mufflers on. With carbs, you use a screw driver. Maybe some jets. Read the plugs. It's cheaper and easier to get the mixture right.
Whitney loves Royal Enfield! Let's do that 0-60 video again 🙂
I love my RE Interceptor. I’ve had big bikes, fast bikes, and crusty bikes. The Int650 is my first slow bike. Dirt bikes aside, I have not had a more fun bike.
One note, 2009-2016 Bonnie's are fuel injected and cost the same as the carbs! I grabbed my Bonnie for $5300. I am satisfied, but I admit I would have loved the Enfield for the ABS. At the same time, I got a bike with 3000 miles so.
The looks of the latest RE 650 Interceptor is based on the RE 1960 Inceptor, the engine does not look remotely like a Triumph engine or any other vertical twin.
Man, I think this was the best of the Yam channel. I miss it.
3:49 nice glasses.... Need an ad for that 😎
RE Interceptor gives 48 BHP power & 52 NM torque
You can see the difference in seat height when they are side by side. RE could easily lower the frame where the seat sits by an inch and broaden the appeal!
RE primarily made this bike for Indian market and here we don’t want bikes with less seat height and ground clearance bcos the roads are not butter smooth like USA and we have potholes etc, so we need something a bit taller.
I rode a pulsar 150 a while ago for a month and didn’t like it here bcos there are big ass speed breakers which hit the belly, and now I ride a 160cc Apache and it has great ground clearance. I think that’s why RE looks like it has more seat height, I never sat on it so can’t give my experience
Shhhh! I'm 6'1" and the seat height is perfect
Triumph is the best British motorbike company 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Royal Enfield is a close 2nd place
I was so confused at first at 3:34 when I saw the car driving on the road backwards in the background 😂
A glitch in the matrix bro😂🇳🇿
Christopher Nolan behind the camera
Hehe
@@michaelmurdock4607 just moved? which part of the US is he from for driving in reverse to be normal?
One thing that’s occurred to me….power to weight ratio. The Royal Enfield weighs about 445 lbs, has 45 hp, And 38 ft/lbs tongue.
Now, take the Kawasaki z400…. 363 lbs. still 45 hp. Torque 28 ft/lbs…..my thinking is that extra 10 ft/lbs of torque gets mostly eaten up by its extra 83 lbs. a light person (like myself, 145 lbs) on a Z400…..beginner…. Less intimidating bike….same specs….with the big additions of more advanced ABS BRAKES, TFT instruments, …..probably much easier to get parts for a Kawasaki than a Royal Enfield…..dealers trying to thin out their herd of smaller z’s because of the new Z500 ….so the price point went way down…for a first bike, to me the Z400 seems like it checks all my boxes.
For info A new Royal Enfield model is coming out and it's a bobber with v2in engine 883 cc
An excellent interceptor used with under 10000km on meter is 2500 US dollars in india.. will buy one when the time comes.
great bike & character.
What do you think of the twin horns? It’s a minor feature, but very few modern production bikes have it and think it’s a nice touch on the RE twins.
If u feel the horn is louder than other bikes, it is bcos this bike is primarily for Indian market and here we honk like hell, that’s the only way not to get hit by someone texting in a car
@@shashankmallamraju4271 That's what I love about it! It's a bike that works anywhere in the world. I bet you need a stonkin' horn in Cairo, too.
OMG the third RE video - what is happening to you guys? ;)
If I was starting over, I would buy the RE Interceptor. Affordable, reliable, cheap to insure and designed for the home mechanic. I really HATE shim & bucket valves.
Except when you are working on a W650/800, ...A kid could change those out !
It's nice having Whitney on the channel. She brightens up the place and I appreciate hearing her point of view. Good idea bringing her on. High quality content, as always, thanks.
Say what? The 66 Bonneville 650 I rode in 69-70 handled well. Vibration was bad at higher rpm. Which is why I bought a 71 CL350.
My biggest complaint is both these models you are riding are heavier than needed.
Congratulations a brand new motorcycle is better than a 15-year-old motorcycle, are you kidding me.
Great comparo. I am still tempted by the 2009-14 Bonnie which is the EFI version of that engine....
It's a fantastic motorcycle, you won't regret it.
Other than the 3000 mile service interval and valve lashing (valve clearance interval), being annoying as hell, the INT 650 is soooooo nice. I can’t wait until someone makes hydraulic lifters for it.
Its not exactly hard to do valve clearance checks on the RE 650 Interceptor
It's probably rocker arms with screw adjustment. My dr650 takes a half an hour to adjust
Couldn't afford a Triumph in the 60s but so loved the re-birth I bought T100, America, Thunderbird and a Thruxton R before I realised not much had changed ! Oil-tight now maybe, but lack of quality (numerous weather failings, considering I mostly fairweather ride), recall blame shifting & general didn't give a ****** for the customer, however much they were spending, finished them for me. Not happy to say that but now on Kawasaki & Moto Guzzi...most unlikely to ever return alas.
A Brand New Royal Enfield 650 FINALLY Beat a Used 2007 carburettored Triumph Bonny. Who knew?
Royal Enfield comes with a 3 YEAR WARRANTY, NO MILEAGE LIMITATION, & 3 YEAR FREE ROAD SIDE ASSISTANCE.
You don't get that on a used Triumph!
I'm pretty sure that Triumph isn't a T100, it would have had twin gauges. The single gauge/plain black tank indicate it was a base model.
I think the single gauge came standard on the T100, and the tach was an optional upgrade for an additional cost out of the accessory catalog.
@@dirkdiggler5164 also mag wheels upgraded to spoke
It seems like Royal Enfield paid promotion. otherwise who compares a 2022 Royal Enfield with a 2007 Triumph and titles the video as Royal Enfield beat triumph 😂
Royal Enfield smelled that yam is looking to get more subscribers from India so it worked for both the party to collaborate. Royal Enfield has definitely improved a lot no doubt about that but this is just my opinion no offence
The point is that they are close in price. Probably the best pick among the bikes their sponsor had available. No conspiracy beyond that really, i think
Everything is possible, but these Interceptor are really nice motorcycles and for that price, they win hands down. Did you ridden one? I did and all I could say is that if I have to buy a new, off the shelf bike, that would be an Enfield.
I strongly agree that this seems a little bit odd... The channel was at a certain point bullying the brand (Royal). But now, as it seems... Eurocycle and the brands that it sells strongly influence the way in which this channel perceives motorcycles in general (some brands like Aprillia and Triumph deserve the credit, whereas Royals are cheaper for a reason). It's a mysterious change of heart (not an impossible one though, given certain parameters as explained in the video).
@@ivanbrasla Their not close in price. you can get an old t100 for half the cost of the RE.
You should try one. Believe me, I own an r6 and a cbr650 and I've changed my mind after test riding the interceptor and continental gt. Royal Enfield did an amazing job with these two bikes.
I wonder how the Kawasaki W650 or W800 would compare to the Triumph and Royal Enfield?
Ya wanna go old school? How about the right foot shifter, left foot brake on the "proper" Bonnie. It was very embarrassing to find yourself in a must brake situation pressing as hard as you could on the shift gear lever. The right foot shifter did work great on flat track racing. Oh, yeah, don't forget. Cable operated drum brakes front and rear? Now that's a proper old school bike.
Maybe Enfield could do a full 1930-40's retro sidecar rig on that.
I have seen sidecars on enfields and yezdis in india
News flash, the Royal Enfields are NOT knock offs of Triumphs. They have their own heritage with classic British motorcycles.
I owned a 2005 Bonneville T100 , rode it for over 40k miles and to my recollection it had FI that was made to look like old school carb's . Now you are telling me that the 2007 bike you have has carburetors ????
I'm in the market for a new RE or perhaps a new Moto Guzzi special , perhaps that's a better comparison test.
2:06 But Yam, KTM is an Austrian brand not German. It's basically only BMW that is left from the German motocycle brands. Technically there is also Horex, but it is just the brand bought by a different company and not the original company.
Arey yaar. 900 cc banado.... Should be a great highway ride. RE is Indian pride.
I sold my 2021 Interceptor and picked up a used T100 for $3500. RE's are great motorcycles but at 6'-3" the Triumph is a better fit for me.
"They both have two wheels, one handle bar", ah yes, very similar 🤣🤣.
The rear brake on the Royal Enfield is too close to the engine casing -it feels awkward.
Could you have at least started at a 2014 (7 year old Bonnie) with EFi as your comparison?
love the Pit Vipers Whitney 😎 got 2 pairs myself
The Enfield is much more authentic than the triumph, it’s been in continuous production unlike Triumph who went bust in the 80’s.
Twaddle The last Uk Enfields were made in a cave; and Indian Enfields' quality control was so abysmal that they opened a new factory elsewhere.
@@jeremyatkinson4976 you mean that they opened a modern factory to improve their products, maybe other British industries should have tried this. They never stopped producing bikes though, unlike Triumph, Norton, BSA etc. I lived through the collapse of the British bike industry and it was fully deserved, shit management was the problem. Triumph of today has nothing to do with the original, unlike Enfield who, mainly by luck, survived and finally got the smart management and investment to thrive, thanks to the Indians.
First of all I think that it's a shame that you didn't choose the T100 865 EFI to this interesting "test", as EFI vs Carbs is a big difference...
Actually I faced the same dilemma when I have to buy my frist bike...
For me, as a new rider, ABS brakes would be very nice. But I must admit that I had fallen in love with the Bonnie and all it old school charme...
In Denmark prices are high - The Interceptor is about 12-13k, and I found my T100 '08 865 EFI for 11k.
I ended up with the Bonnie is it seem more "whole", it has a bit more power, and the resale price is somewhat better (as it has taken the main depreciation, as it's not a new bike).
And as a supplement to the Bonnie I'm beginning to look out for a newer Street Triple R 765. And of couse do some mods on my Bonnie 🥳
"A knock off Bonneville" sure why not
My God you guys hate carburetors! They're really not that bad guys, just a little more to tune.
Especially more modern carbs from the 90's+. Ride it and don't let the fuel sit for too long and you'll never have an issue.
Royal enfield might have copied the bonneville but the bonnie copied the the Ariel huntmaster, but that copied a BSA, but Triumph did it first with the 6/1 in 34'...wait a minute...650 parallel twins with round headlights and dual shocks in the 60's were like i4 sportbikes with fairings since 1986. They all were kinda similar.
Every American youtube channel does the $10,000 to $6000 price comparison between these two bikes acting like dealer fees don’t exist. The fact of the matter is out the door, before taxes and registration, the cost of an Interceptor 650 is closer to $8000. That includes the 300 mile maintenance that will have to be performed on a new INT650.
They never mention that service intervals for the INT650 are every 6000 miles compared to the triumphs 10,000 mile service interval. So you will be pay more in maintenance costs as well.
With that in mind, for an American buyer the cost of a new INT650 is much closer to the cost of a used 2019 street twin and equal or more expensive than a used 2004-2013 Bonneville.
To activate the vibration mode, ride beyond 100 for RE🤣
thats just mostly with the standard, classis and especially 650s are pretty good in term of vibration reduction and isolation
wrong year Bonnie for comparison
Review the Meteor 350 please. It looks like a fun bike.
I have one. I'd like to hear them do one too. I think it might not get the love that the INT or Conti got.
Thanks for another informative video!
For the New Rider, ABS is the deciding factor. From first hand experience stopping on a slick road when it just started to rain in Las Vegas. I had 30 years of streetbike riding. BUT the Sausage monster finally got me! The Ambulance ride cost me $1,100 ( insurance didn't cover it)
So every bike I buy since then absolutely must have ABS. Remember the Road Rash Sausage monster is always trying to get you. Because as a Motorcyclist you are invisible to most cage drivers. Not to mention all the dangerous people texting!
Now if I could Find a Royal Enfield Dealership anywhere near me. Sounds like a great 3rd Bike.
Love the looks!! I Always loved the chromed tanks of the British Bikes! Yes some other bikes had chromed tanks including Honda, Yamaha and the German NSU.
Cheers!
Thanks for the tip. I've been riding motorcycles for around 30 years (started in the 5th grade on a Honda ST90). I taught my high school daughter to ride on my Honda Monkey commuter bike and now she wants to get her motorcycle license and her own bike. I definitely prefer front ABS on my bikes and especially hers.
Finally you loved
Royal Enfield is not British brand it's Indian brand.
RE is most probably bringing 3 types of different bikes on same engine platform, one meteor 650, 2nd would be a classic 650 & there is one 3rd type in the pipeline probably shotgun 650.
BLASPHEMY!!! that beautiful triumph is no where near a crap harley davidson. great video, answered alot of questions i had
I mean to be fair thats an 07 Bonnie. Theyve made a ton of improvements since then.