I almost feel like this is a better way to write the lore of Destiny, it shows how the Destiny universe can be dark and cruel instead of the day always being saved by our guardian
If Bungie and Sony ever do Destiny animations or cinematics, I want the Iron Lords to be tackled first and be done justice. It needs to be gretty and brutal, just like this story. We need Destiny R rated projects. Imo Destiny 2, or future games, should show more of this side of the lore.
@@greenwaveboi Legit it would fit right in. Imagen a Destiny animated show where each season is a different story/ tone. First season would be the origins/rise and fall of the Iron Lords in the dark age with the tone and grettines of a medieval show like Vikings. Second season would be about the corruption/transformation of Rezil Azzir into Dredgen Yor, and Jaren Ward with Shin Malphur hunting him down. This season with have a cowboy tone like the movie The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
Saladin is a warlord. People don’t understand war. He did what he needed to do. Glad bungie wrote him the way they did. Not everything that kills is… nice
Saladin is definitely not a warlord. He just doesn't fit the definition. The Warlords definitely fit however, they are a perfect example really lol. Saladin is a warrior, protector and tactician etcetera etcetera. And I would actually say he is a good (and nice!) Person, just not if you've wronged him or others.
@@unalloyedearth Literally. This also reflects when people say, even if as a joke, I cant wait to kill 'x' to turn them into a gun. Pretty psychotic tbh.
My takeaway: we need an Iron Banner themed exotic Sidearm "Final Mercy" Might be OP, but I think the exotic trait "One Final Mercy" would build Mercy stacks for melee kills, and kills with the weapon. At max stacks (5? 10?) hold reload to load a single devastating bullet. Something of a Primary Izanagi's, but since it has infinite ammo, gotta build stacks.
@@spartacon5267 A handcannon is also good. I wasn't watching the scene as typing, just basing on the words said. That being said we already have SO many exotic handcannons lol
@@julianpeterson4227 melee hits would build the stacks quickly, but don't see that as a likely option, so I figured something more akin to Swashbuckler would be a reasonable tradeoff, so you can get both the melee, and weapon usage
Convulsing pulp left by Saladin. Hopefully showing Crow mercy doesn’t burn him like showing mercy to the little girl did. After all…they were both young when they heard his lessons. This was an awesome video Myelin and is a great demonstration on how amazing the lore to this game we play is.
As cool as that quote is, it’s kind of contradictory with things our own Guardian has done. The quote basically boils down to “you have no idea what your enemy will do if you spare them, so never spare them and avoid uncertainty.” Yet our Guardian canonically spared Mithrax’s life when, by Saladin’s logic, we shouldn’t have. An act of mercy that saved the City during the Endless Night. Don’t get me wrong, Saladin is an awesome character. But he doesn’t know everything.
Lord Saladin is by far my favorite character... I really like when our character has interactions with him. "The man who makes a beast of himself, forgets the pains of being a man". If it were my personal choice, I would stay as close to this man and learn as much from him as I possibly could. Much respect for LORD Saladin
Tl:Dr. Saladin isn't a monster but rather the most experienced hands on teacher anyone could learn a thing or two from. I wanna jump back to what Misseraks'kell said, "We've all got to learn to live with our monsters". Not just onto how they perceived Saint or vice versa... it also applies as an internal fundamental. No one is perfect.... never will be one. Saladin is just like any of us, real world or not; He has made mistakes done things that have he may not be proud of. But that is the path he has set ablaze through conquest and personal wars. I wouldn't call him a monster per-say as a true monster never learns from their actions and far reaching consequences. He has walked those paths and now tries to impart his knowledge to the young wolves so that they too will understand that even good deeds don't go unpunished, but rather how you go about them will affect what is to come after.
Titans need an arc super where they can rush charge from target to target( close to blinking but not really, more like a berserker rush) and pummel the target with an arc barrage of fists with lighting strikes every 3 blows, that's what this showed me. They could even call it Saladin's wrath or fury because winters wrath already exists
Can we talk about the fact that instead of pulling a hammer of sol he pulls out an axe!? Why is his super different? Is it possible for others to do that same?
Light powers are generally free expression, but the game simplifies it for obvious reason. ---- turning her Dawnblade into Stasis for instance, Saladin's axe, Osiris's copies etc.. Most Guardians have the standards we use because the Vanguard teaches them. Edit: ---- was written as Shayura which is VERY much not right iirc, can't remember who
I think it just comes a light channeling thing. Like Cayde literally empowering Ace and using it as a golden gun. And also just game logic, we're locked in systems becuase it's a game but in universe power manifestation comes in many ways. Lord Felwinter (a Warlock) could use shoulder charge, sunsinger (D1 Warlock Solar class) is still accessible to Warlocks in universe.
Because it's not that big of a thing, we've seen those sorts of things before with Guardians imbuing weapons etc with the Light. Saladin more than others, there are literal cutscenes of him doing it. He also still summons a Solar hammer when he doesn't have his axe though, and there is a difference between imbuing a weapon with the Light and creating a Light construct. Him catching bullets and absorbing solar energy back into himself after its been burning a tree are the bigger feats here, the latter more so as reaction time/speed feats like the former are already known to us. To answer your question properly, It's different because he owns an axe he can imbue with the Light. We don't, so we make a Light construct we were trained to form.
@@Saint_Wolf_ Yep, golden gun lore wise is literally just turning their weapon into a solar infused gun. Sure they can also make one out of nothing but pure solar light. But they can also infuse whatever weapon they are using with solar light. Ana for example does it with her 18 Kelvin's. Doesn't matter what gun it is. They only have two gun models in-game for GG because it's much much easier to make etc. Also easier to balance (scope zooms and different types of scopes etc would be difficult to balance in PvP, also different rpms and weapon types).
After seeing the answers I'm now going to start a new subclass. Devastator! We now use full fledged Armor slayers and wield then with the might of the sun!
I love Saladin. He's the only character in my opinion who knows what's at stake. Like why are we being so nice? We should have crushed every enemy on Earth and taken back the planet by now.
@@alecdl98 Facts! The enemy has been using EVERY means to kill us off and take the Traveler. We should just murder these stragglers off, before they team up!
If we could we would retake Earth and it is still an objective for Vanguard. Thing is you overestimate how many guardians there are and how powerful they are. For a normal guardian just patrol zone is comparable to GM difficulty for us.
@@baka_ja_nai i hear you but the thing is we've taken down literal gods at this point. There is nothing that powerful on the planet right now. So we could take back the planet with a couple of strong fire teams and have the kinderguardians as clean up.
I’d love it if we could flip through supers as fast as our “mentors” can… would be cool if that could be like a new playlist or also even modded into mayhem…
I love that Saladman can just swap between subclasses without effort. Meanwhile, I have to deal with xbox taking forever to load the character screen and then all my cooldowns are reset . . .
I love love love the grittier lore entries. As guardians/players we become desensitized to the violence and death we casually dish out. It's grounding to hear the realities of our actions. The shear brutality of slaughtering creatures with our light as we do.
This is the kind of lore Destiny needs. The brutally of war and fighting isn’t just “pew pew I got 200 kills that last Vanguard Strike!” War is unforgiving, uncaring, and merciless. Whenever Saladin wavers from war, awful things follow. He’s the one to make the right decision, even when it’s unpopular. “Iron within, Iron without.”
Another great vid. The Iron Lord's are way underrated in the main game but truly shine in the lore. I think their stories were meant to be told over funeral pyres.
Pretty much any Titan would be a brutal monster. In a world of guns, they charge forward armoured in Light, ripping enemies apart with nothing but their bare hands. Titans swallow bullets with their armor like the ocean swallows rain. Their expressionless, swept-back helmets hint not a sliver of emotion. To make it worse, they might even laugh maniacally or bellow louder than artillery. E.g. Saint-14, the literal Doomslayer of Destiny. Shaxx, who said, described the purpose of energy weapons as "for silencing barriers. Fists are all I need to administer blunt-force trauma." Zavala, who says in Vanguard bounties that swords, fusion rifles, shotguns and grenade launchers are never his first choice because he relies on his fists most. Wei Ning. Enough said.
Also to build on my previous question, what makes exotic armor, exotic? Like for instance with Saint 14, is it his might in the light that modified his bubble to do what it does or is it his helmet? You know what I mean? Like the additional powers a guardian manifests in the light has to come from his/her own strength right? I know there are special cases where the exotic it's self does something special (lion rampants are literally bounty hunter feet jetpacks from Star Wars) but just in general, how does a guardians power in light become more powerful like Osiris, Cayde, and all the other notable guardians after and before them?
Guardians all differ in their connection to the light, some are weaker, some stronger, it's just in game they have to make us all the same, for obvious reasons. One of my theories is that these extremely strong individuals' powers can "rub off" onto their armour over time, so that if another guardian uses it they inherit that power. My other theory is that they straight up designed (or had designed for them) the armour so that it gave them extra powers, so they were the first users of those exotics and thus gave their names to them.
Yea, salidin is meant to be valas forge, he will eventually get caitals right hand. This is crazy, he went through some shit, and his ghost is also pretty wild.
Hawkeye in the MCU: [Kills a bunch of low life criminals quickly with a sword, though still gets blood everywhere] "Everything thinks I'm a monster, but I'm not" Saladin in this season's lore: [Absolutely massacres two groups of bandits and a woman he saved as a child by means of _ultra violence_ ] "Everyone thinks I'm a hero, and I am"
Don’t y’all hear all of his comments whenever he speaks during times of strife? His default for literally any enemy is scorched earth policy. I think we all should have known that the man basically gets resurrected by a pair of black forces.
Destiny needs more of this. I've always hated how often we're just painted over as brilliant, shining heroes with infallible judgment. Nonsense. You ever wonder how many innocents get murdered by Guardians just... havin a goof? Or how many of our current heroes were once unbelievably cruel and violent. Now, I'm not saying I'm judging them for any of it. They're functionally immortal humans and humans are terrible, awful creatures. Easy math. But we need to experience the darker side of Destiny. Give us that grim dark goodness baby. Can't be all superpowers and sunshine all the time, ya know?
Unfortunately, with how cruel the dark ages were, the girl Saladin helped couldn’t find much of a future in the ruined world. No one came to “repay Saladin’s violence” as he learned form the past.
I feel like everyone who hates on Saladin doesn't understand the complexities of his depth in character; whoever writes his arc does a great job of reading into Warrior theory.
Another thing is that I wouldn’t quite call the former iron board a monster circumstances forced him to do many things if anything everyone else around him was more of a monster while he was trying to do the right thing but the harshness of reality forced Saladin to become equally harsh not out of cruelty but out of necessity. I actually enjoyed this lore too many people want lighthearted lore with a good guy always wins I would say Bungie should add in more dark story and blower like this especially since too many people got it in their head that destiny is a kids game like cancer night i mean Fortnite (I really do mean cancer). Destiny has a very large and varied player base but when I’ve spoken to people that were unfamiliar with it or simply haven’t touched it they were convinced it was a child’s game for five-year-olds and 10-year-olds which made me feel extremely insulted but I somewhat get what they’re coming from the trailers don’t exactly disprove their belief especially when the mixture of stubbornness and Naivety are involved. If bungie adds in more dark lore both endgame and story and possibly bit more of these lower books then maybe sometime in the future people get it out of their mindset of destiny being a kids game. I’m pretty sure a lot of the people of the testing committee really miss our probably sick and tired of hearing the old broken record of either hearing destiny is dead or it being for kids and a list of other insults.
It's kinda weird he uses a solar hammer. The hammer titans were a way of using solar energy from the group of mercenary titan that went to mercury later on right? Classes were not even a thing back then if I remember correctly.
I still can't decide what I think about crow and saladin's story arc so far. I think I lean towards saladin's side of things. The hive are pretty wretched. But also if we lose mercy, what have we got?
18:34 - THIS IS not "There is" Slight difference but an important one i feel. Also it's a "sliver of metal" not a "silver of metal" Big difference there. A sliver is a small amount/thin shard.
Saladin created a monster because he and his ghost didn't understand the difference between justice and revenge. Because he used the same tyrannical sword logic of warlords and the darkness to impose cruel laws that were only more merciful by comparison, rather than in totality.
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myelin plz check out my lore on my titan , its an origin for my titan i would really love ur input
I wish Zavala had Saladin's spine. Saladin is fearless. Would make an excellent Titan Vanguard leader!
I think Saladins Pre resurrection life was
SALADIN THE GREAT DURING THE CRUSADES
I almost feel like this is a better way to write the lore of Destiny, it shows how the Destiny universe can be dark and cruel instead of the day always being saved by our guardian
Well I feel like it shows that we can’t do everything and be everywhere at once.
Which I think is important.
If Bungie and Sony ever do Destiny animations or cinematics, I want the Iron Lords to be tackled first and be done justice. It needs to be gretty and brutal, just like this story. We need Destiny R rated projects.
Imo Destiny 2, or future games, should show more of this side of the lore.
Would love to see felwinter getting murderrd by shaxx all night long over n over lol. Love thst storry
Saladin, Warmind, & Felwinter could easily be a HBO series.
@@4patrickss YES, that would be so cool dude
@@greenwaveboi Legit it would fit right in. Imagen a Destiny animated show where each season is a different story/ tone. First season would be the origins/rise and fall of the Iron Lords in the dark age with the tone and grettines of a medieval show like Vikings.
Second season would be about the corruption/transformation of Rezil Azzir into Dredgen Yor, and Jaren Ward with Shin Malphur hunting him down. This season with have a cowboy tone like the movie The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
I promise you this, it will never be done properly with any amount of justice. It doesn't matter who handles it, it will always be bad.
Saladin really shoulder charged a regular ass man, then punched him into electric soup 🤣
'tis the way of the Titan
Saladin is my favorite character in the whole game.
I like crow. Man's smiles at me, while also knowing I can act purely off vegance
Saladin is a very interesting and complex character but to me eris is still the best 😌 her story is just perfect
Agreed, Saladin , Ikora and Mara Sov are my top favorites
You mean Bracus Forge? Who this salad bowl guy you talkin' bout.
@@BoiledFrawg he actually is no longer a bracus, he already got promoted to valus or whatever the the “v” one is
Saladin is a warlord. People don’t understand war. He did what he needed to do. Glad bungie wrote him the way they did. Not everything that kills is… nice
You don't know anything about war. So to be saying what you're saying is goofy af.
@@mr.dr0bot731 how you know he doesn’t understand?
Saladin is definitely not a warlord. He just doesn't fit the definition. The Warlords definitely fit however, they are a perfect example really lol. Saladin is a warrior, protector and tactician etcetera etcetera. And I would actually say he is a good (and nice!) Person, just not if you've wronged him or others.
Does everyone ever thing about what Guardians have done for 7 years? Kill and Torture everything in our way without a second guess.
@@unalloyedearth Literally. This also reflects when people say, even if as a joke, I cant wait to kill 'x' to turn them into a gun.
Pretty psychotic tbh.
Saladin was and will always be my favorite Character in Destiny
My takeaway: we need an Iron Banner themed exotic Sidearm "Final Mercy"
Might be OP, but I think the exotic trait "One Final Mercy" would build Mercy stacks for melee kills, and kills with the weapon. At max stacks (5? 10?) hold reload to load a single devastating bullet.
Something of a Primary Izanagi's, but since it has infinite ammo, gotta build stacks.
I don't think sidearm is necessarily referring to the weapon as we think of it in D2. If you watch the cutscene, Saladin's holding a handcannon.
@@spartacon5267 A handcannon is also good. I wasn't watching the scene as typing, just basing on the words said.
That being said we already have SO many exotic handcannons lol
should be on melee hits
@@julianpeterson4227 melee hits would build the stacks quickly, but don't see that as a likely option, so I figured something more akin to Swashbuckler would be a reasonable tradeoff, so you can get both the melee, and weapon usage
Please no side arms😣😣😣
Convulsing pulp left by Saladin. Hopefully showing Crow mercy doesn’t burn him like showing mercy to the little girl did. After all…they were both young when they heard his lessons.
This was an awesome video Myelin and is a great demonstration on how amazing the lore to this game we play is.
"mercy to an enemy must not come at the cost of their victims" lord Saladin
As cool as that quote is, it’s kind of contradictory with things our own Guardian has done. The quote basically boils down to “you have no idea what your enemy will do if you spare them, so never spare them and avoid uncertainty.” Yet our Guardian canonically spared Mithrax’s life when, by Saladin’s logic, we shouldn’t have. An act of mercy that saved the City during the Endless Night.
Don’t get me wrong, Saladin is an awesome character. But he doesn’t know everything.
@@H240909 and specifically because he doesn’t know everything is WHY he is such a great character, he is flawed, like a human should be.
@@eu.stacio And there’s still going to be people who take his word as gospel. Which is why I’m bringing up this point.
@@H240909 Contradictory with our actions, not his.
@@androski5247 Fine, his view is “disproven” by our actions. That better?
Lord Saladin is by far my favorite character... I really like when our character has interactions with him. "The man who makes a beast of himself, forgets the pains of being a man". If it were my personal choice, I would stay as close to this man and learn as much from him as I possibly could. Much respect for LORD Saladin
Tl:Dr. Saladin isn't a monster but rather the most experienced hands on teacher anyone could learn a thing or two from.
I wanna jump back to what Misseraks'kell said, "We've all got to learn to live with our monsters". Not just onto how they perceived Saint or vice versa... it also applies as an internal fundamental. No one is perfect.... never will be one. Saladin is just like any of us, real world or not; He has made mistakes done things that have he may not be proud of. But that is the path he has set ablaze through conquest and personal wars. I wouldn't call him a monster per-say as a true monster never learns from their actions and far reaching consequences. He has walked those paths and now tries to impart his knowledge to the young wolves so that they too will understand that even good deeds don't go unpunished, but rather how you go about them will affect what is to come after.
"we are what we survive" those words are one life lesson learned from a video game.
Titans need an arc super where they can rush charge from target to target( close to blinking but not really, more like a berserker rush) and pummel the target with an arc barrage of fists with lighting strikes every 3 blows, that's what this showed me. They could even call it Saladin's wrath or fury because winters wrath already exists
is just jumping up and slamming down over and over not berserk-y enough
Seems like a Dbz thing more than a destiny thing.
So kratos on rage mode. Snooze
titans dont need shit they already enjoy favouritism over and over
@@Aszourus this the kinda guy that mains warlock
It’d be interesting see lord Saladin and the Drifter(two people who were shaped by the harshness of the dark age) in the same room as each other.
I just wanna say, every video I see from you brings me closer to letting go of my attempt to grow a beard and just embracing the mustache
You deliver the lore in such a great way . Thank you for being our destiny historian!
Can we talk about the fact that instead of pulling a hammer of sol he pulls out an axe!? Why is his super different? Is it possible for others to do that same?
Light powers are generally free expression, but the game simplifies it for obvious reason. ---- turning her Dawnblade into Stasis for instance, Saladin's axe, Osiris's copies etc..
Most Guardians have the standards we use because the Vanguard teaches them.
Edit: ---- was written as Shayura which is VERY much not right iirc, can't remember who
I think it just comes a light channeling thing. Like Cayde literally empowering Ace and using it as a golden gun. And also just game logic, we're locked in systems becuase it's a game but in universe power manifestation comes in many ways. Lord Felwinter (a Warlock) could use shoulder charge, sunsinger (D1 Warlock Solar class) is still accessible to Warlocks in universe.
Because it's not that big of a thing, we've seen those sorts of things before with Guardians imbuing weapons etc with the Light. Saladin more than others, there are literal cutscenes of him doing it. He also still summons a Solar hammer when he doesn't have his axe though, and there is a difference between imbuing a weapon with the Light and creating a Light construct. Him catching bullets and absorbing solar energy back into himself after its been burning a tree are the bigger feats here, the latter more so as reaction time/speed feats like the former are already known to us.
To answer your question properly, It's different because he owns an axe he can imbue with the Light. We don't, so we make a Light construct we were trained to form.
@@Saint_Wolf_ Yep, golden gun lore wise is literally just turning their weapon into a solar infused gun. Sure they can also make one out of nothing but pure solar light. But they can also infuse whatever weapon they are using with solar light. Ana for example does it with her 18 Kelvin's. Doesn't matter what gun it is.
They only have two gun models in-game for GG because it's much much easier to make etc. Also easier to balance (scope zooms and different types of scopes etc would be difficult to balance in PvP, also different rpms and weapon types).
After seeing the answers I'm now going to start a new subclass. Devastator! We now use full fledged Armor slayers and wield then with the might of the sun!
I thought Shaxx was the most brutal person from this period but damnn!! Now i see why Saladin was respected and feared even among the Iron Lords
I love these scenes in Destiny. They should definitely add more.
damn first time I'm learning about Saladin's ghost and I already like her
I love Saladin. He's the only character in my opinion who knows what's at stake. Like why are we being so nice? We should have crushed every enemy on Earth and taken back the planet by now.
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Exactly. There are no rules or worry about morality when your entire race is facing extinction. You do what you have to, to survive
@@alecdl98 Facts! The enemy has been using EVERY means to kill us off and take the Traveler. We should just murder these stragglers off, before they team up!
If we could we would retake Earth and it is still an objective for Vanguard.
Thing is you overestimate how many guardians there are and how powerful they are.
For a normal guardian just patrol zone is comparable to GM difficulty for us.
@@baka_ja_nai i hear you but the thing is we've taken down literal gods at this point. There is nothing that powerful on the planet right now. So we could take back the planet with a couple of strong fire teams and have the kinderguardians as clean up.
I’d love it if we could flip through supers as fast as our “mentors” can… would be cool if that could be like a new playlist or also even modded into mayhem…
The dark age is the best part in destiny lore imo. Its the most surprising and holds the most mystery
After hearing stuff like this I can't be the only one who wants a dark age spin off game after this
I'm so glad someone finally did a video on this lore!
That was so brutal. Just another example of why I love the Destiny lore and how it's so well written.
I love that Saladman can just swap between subclasses without effort. Meanwhile, I have to deal with xbox taking forever to load the character screen and then all my cooldowns are reset . . .
I love love love the grittier lore entries. As guardians/players we become desensitized to the violence and death we casually dish out. It's grounding to hear the realities of our actions. The shear brutality of slaughtering creatures with our light as we do.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Saladin when there’s a fight: *boss music/doom music*
This is the kind of lore Destiny needs. The brutally of war and fighting isn’t just “pew pew I got 200 kills that last Vanguard Strike!” War is unforgiving, uncaring, and merciless. Whenever Saladin wavers from war, awful things follow. He’s the one to make the right decision, even when it’s unpopular. “Iron within, Iron without.”
Oh I love this, we need more of this in destiny. Maybe in animation or a show or something but we need more.
Another great vid. The Iron Lord's are way underrated in the main game but truly shine in the lore. I think their stories were meant to be told over funeral pyres.
the fight sounds like something straight out of berserk or vinland saga, i would love a dark age manga/anime
Pretty much any Titan would be a brutal monster. In a world of guns, they charge forward armoured in Light, ripping enemies apart with nothing but their bare hands. Titans swallow bullets with their armor like the ocean swallows rain. Their expressionless, swept-back helmets hint not a sliver of emotion. To make it worse, they might even laugh maniacally or bellow louder than artillery.
E.g. Saint-14, the literal Doomslayer of Destiny.
Shaxx, who said, described the purpose of energy weapons as "for silencing barriers.
Fists are all I need to administer blunt-force trauma."
Zavala, who says in Vanguard bounties that swords, fusion rifles, shotguns and grenade
launchers are never his first choice because he relies on his fists most.
Wei Ning. Enough said.
great video man, now we need a book based on shaxx's time as a warlord
The relative peace of the city came at the cost of souls like Saladin's.
Thanks, Dr Bum! Always happy to see noti's for your high-quality vids!
Also to build on my previous question, what makes exotic armor, exotic? Like for instance with Saint 14, is it his might in the light that modified his bubble to do what it does or is it his helmet? You know what I mean? Like the additional powers a guardian manifests in the light has to come from his/her own strength right? I know there are special cases where the exotic it's self does something special (lion rampants are literally bounty hunter feet jetpacks from Star Wars) but just in general, how does a guardians power in light become more powerful like Osiris, Cayde, and all the other notable guardians after and before them?
Guardians all differ in their connection to the light, some are weaker, some stronger, it's just in game they have to make us all the same, for obvious reasons. One of my theories is that these extremely strong individuals' powers can "rub off" onto their armour over time, so that if another guardian uses it they inherit that power. My other theory is that they straight up designed (or had designed for them) the armour so that it gave them extra powers, so they were the first users of those exotics and thus gave their names to them.
@@_goyonder_4899 oooo that's a good theory
@@wolfofumbra8332 thanks!
Lord Saladin is Doom guy in a distant future. Change my mind.
The brutality in a way is justifable and not at the same time which feels kinda weird
Saladin is a warlord. Its good that there is lore to remind people of that
Saladin is a proud member of the: F.A.A.F.O. Council.
Now more than ever I’m happy my bungie name is “RightInFrontOfMySaladin”
Yea, salidin is meant to be valas forge, he will eventually get caitals right hand. This is crazy, he went through some shit, and his ghost is also pretty wild.
Hawkeye in the MCU: [Kills a bunch of low life criminals quickly with a sword, though still gets blood everywhere] "Everything thinks I'm a monster, but I'm not"
Saladin in this season's lore: [Absolutely massacres two groups of bandits and a woman he saved as a child by means of _ultra violence_ ] "Everyone thinks I'm a hero, and I am"
Hell ya, hoping one day we'll see the return of the Risen, Iron Lords and Warlords.
Don’t y’all hear all of his comments whenever he speaks during times of strife? His default for literally any enemy is scorched earth policy. I think we all should have known that the man basically gets resurrected by a pair of black forces.
Saladin has always been my favorite character my ideology kinda goes with his
We got Saladin, shaxx, and saint’s stories about them being absolutely merciless and now to wait for zavala’s story
lord Salad-man goin ham. love to see it
Saladin.
Loved SO MUCH this episode, thank you.
Would you say he's like a Reaper?
...
I'll show myself out.
Destiny needs more of this. I've always hated how often we're just painted over as brilliant, shining heroes with infallible judgment. Nonsense. You ever wonder how many innocents get murdered by Guardians just... havin a goof? Or how many of our current heroes were once unbelievably cruel and violent. Now, I'm not saying I'm judging them for any of it. They're functionally immortal humans and humans are terrible, awful creatures. Easy math. But we need to experience the darker side of Destiny. Give us that grim dark goodness baby. Can't be all superpowers and sunshine all the time, ya know?
Unfortunately, with how cruel the dark ages were, the girl Saladin helped couldn’t find much of a future in the ruined world. No one came to “repay Saladin’s violence” as he learned form the past.
the way you say saladin makes me think of a pet owner going "Sala, It's Din dins"
Dark Age was wild times!
God damn bungie did a “kill bill” lore. Love it Myelin
Basically sounds like pelinal from elder scrolls
Convulsing pulp, dude, that's me getting up in the morning lol.
I feel like everyone who hates on Saladin doesn't understand the complexities of his depth in character; whoever writes his arc does a great job of reading into Warrior theory.
Convulsing Pulp is a solid band name
"sizzling pop" eeeek - Saladin going on a carnivore diet
Pulp, wow that is a great story
Damn I always knee Saladin was beast but he damn hog. Didn't even use weaponry until the final shot. Did it with his hands and his light 👀
We need to get this animated!
Man it would be so cool to see and even play Destiny content that looks and feels like Doom.
Convulsing pulp… lmao. Saladin is a Beast!
Great video as always Matt
11/10 video my favourite auzie man reads lore :)
Saladin is about that life 💯
Another thing is that I wouldn’t quite call the former iron board a monster circumstances forced him to do many things if anything everyone else around him was more of a monster while he was trying to do the right thing but the harshness of reality forced Saladin to become equally harsh not out of cruelty but out of necessity. I actually enjoyed this lore too many people want lighthearted lore with a good guy always wins I would say Bungie should add in more dark story and blower like this especially since too many people got it in their head that destiny is a kids game like cancer night i mean Fortnite (I really do mean cancer). Destiny has a very large and varied player base but when I’ve spoken to people that were unfamiliar with it or simply haven’t touched it they were convinced it was a child’s game for five-year-olds and 10-year-olds which made me feel extremely insulted but I somewhat get what they’re coming from the trailers don’t exactly disprove their belief especially when the mixture of stubbornness and Naivety are involved. If bungie adds in more dark lore both endgame and story and possibly bit more of these lower books then maybe sometime in the future people get it out of their mindset of destiny being a kids game. I’m pretty sure a lot of the people of the testing committee really miss our probably sick and tired of hearing the old broken record of either hearing destiny is dead or it being for kids and a list of other insults.
Convulsing pulp. I love it
Saladin is a monster? (Looking at me who killed all raid bosses, Cayde-6's killers, uses light and darkness) yeah i guess Saladin is a monster XD
The takeaway I get from this is: All's fair in love and robot wars
We need a rated R TV show about the dark age
I mean now with Sony and bungie together and how they wanna make tv shows and stuff, there’s always a possibility for something like that
While some form of destiny show would be cool seeing how most video game adaptations movie/shows turnout it might be better as a fan project
the fact that you had to specify it to be R rated makes you look weird and creepy. a rating doesnt matter shit, we only need lore.
@@Kronian Nono of course your right let’s have it be G rated that’ll give us good story and do justice to the lord in destiny
@@Kronian Nono of course your right let’s have it be G rated that’ll give us good story and do justice to the lore in destiny
Saladin Forge, Convulser of Pulps
Lord Salad bar = Pog Champ
It's kinda weird he uses a solar hammer.
The hammer titans were a way of using solar energy from the group of mercenary titan that went to mercury later on right?
Classes were not even a thing back then if I remember correctly.
As someone that used PIA before this sponsor of yours. I have had no problems with it.
Oh my good someone please make a role playing game set in the dark age as a guardian. That would be the best game ever.
I still can't decide what I think about crow and saladin's story arc so far. I think I lean towards saladin's side of things. The hive are pretty wretched. But also if we lose mercy, what have we got?
Saladin's Convulsing Pulp
I've been itching for a new video😭
Saladman
18:34 - THIS IS not "There is"
Slight difference but an important one i feel. Also it's a "sliver of metal" not a "silver of metal" Big difference there. A sliver is a small amount/thin shard.
Wow, that ink cut scene makes it look so pale in comparison.
I love Saladin.
Damn.. now I like my lord Salad even more..
I gave mercy but none was shown so must exact retribution -lord saladin
Totally thought you said "Axe of Mercy" lol
Damm. Bro Saladin you are a beast love you
Dang, this was good.
Saladin unironically did nothing wrong don't @me
This does sound brutal
"Promised order imposed through dominance" what a badass sentence.
One final mercy
Plot twist; Fera gets chosen by a ghost.
Saladin created a monster because he and his ghost didn't understand the difference between justice and revenge. Because he used the same tyrannical sword logic of warlords and the darkness to impose cruel laws that were only more merciful by comparison, rather than in totality.
Saladin went full Omniman